He’s probably faster than G2 and G4 Luffy, and he’s definitely faster than Zoro. AP is debatable since Zoro won his major fight of the arc using Haki based Dura Neg and Sanji was using raw AP and maybe heat hax which is only dura neg depending on the persons resistance to heat
From statements we have seen yeah Sanji outscales Luffy in speed. The AP is in a similar ballpark to Zoro its around multi continental no higher. Whats the issue? Id say you should take your comment down, its dumb and makes you look clueless.
Thing is, they won’t know his tail is his weakness so aren’t likely to grab it. Without that handicap, Raditz is killing every last one of them except maybe the monster trio with ease.
Observation haki will help you sense where strengths and weaknesses are. And they future site. Even if they could attack a dude tail isn’t something revolutionary to think about☠️
@@Vertics_I know you bullshiting the straw hats will destroy the damn Saiyans without a problem stop hyping up Dragon Ball characters just so you can have to win so this whole video is just nothing but a fucking play bullshiting at its finest
Lets be real, Raditz speed blitzes all of them and none of them can even hurt him unless his tail is grabbed and hes defenseless, no strawhat has moon level attacks, and it takes atleast 3x that for a low ball to be able to kill raditz cleanly. The glaze on the strawhats is insane, franky having continental AP is cap.
😂 Bro what are you talking about? Raditz is not faster than Luffy with Future Sight. Luffy is MFTL+ (by fighting a guy that can accelerate pass light speed) and can see the future. What definative scaling do you have for Raditz that puts him above that?
No Straw hat is moon level? Bare minimum Luffy is. I'm pretty sure most measurements put the size of Luffys fist during the Bajrang gun being larger than Madara's heaven concealed meteors, an that fist is much much more durable and much much more powerful than rock, by an insane amount, if Luffy threw that attack at the moon, there'd be no more moon, for certain
I’m so sick of people saying the straw hats can destroy a continent most strawhats don’t have ability’s that can even destroy a country let alone a continent saying the one piece world is bigger than the real world isn’t a good enough excuse there no way zoro and sanji are gonna destroy a moon😭
@@Auron1Roxas2 beginning of z krillin is comparable to a level just below moon level. So yeah you have a point, they can beat krillin. But current krillin? HELL NO
@@Soapman18 Current krillin is hardly different from how he was, he didn't get that much stronger. You clowns try to upscale weak db characters to levels they are not at with no real evidence. Krillin was not keeping pace with super saiyan blue, goku was holding back. Trying to dispute that just makes blue look way weaker than it actually is. The straw hats dog walk krillin with ease. Deal with it.
@Auron1Roxas2 You have a a good point, and it is true that ssgss was used so that krillin can't sense how much power Goku was using. But Krillin’s final battle power was printed in an issue of V-Jump. At the beginning of the fight with Freeza, he had a battle power of 75,000. This power level is way higher than Vegeta who was destroying planets left and right with no difficulty. Plus, in one saga his power level went from around 1k to 75k, how do you think a martial artist doesn't get stronger in like decades?
One thing i hope the wiki includes on the next set of calcs is Luffy and Kaido battling inside a massive lightning strike. I counted it up, they fought a full minute inside the bolt of lightning, and the bolt didnt even get to play out its full strike, before Kaido dispersed it. Thats on top of luffy throwing 6 of them to entrap kaido, then bouncing between them so fast that him bouncing between 6 lightning pillars and attacking kaido at the same time looked like no movement was ocurring at all. Its insane that people want to doubt luffys light speed this day in age
*looks at chopper* nappa: "Vegta!! look a pokemon, I'll catch it!!!!" chopper: "You ba*****, I'm a reindee_" nappa: *throws a pokeball though choppers skull*
@@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot that Goku is super strong I would put him YC1 at most but not yonko or admiral until he gets older near end of the original dragon ball
dawg episode 1 goku gets moliwhopped by nami. the straw hats get cooked once they get to piccolo. before piccolo they're winning and then luffy gets bodied cause realistically there's just him doing damage here
@@MicaW4VEhe for a fact was when at children they were conquering planets master roshi blew uo the moon in dragonball by the time he fought radditz he was beyond that not to mention king vegeta was blowing up planets with the wave of his hand
@BamBammBeatz it's stated in the guidebook that if u have a PL of at least 10k you can destroy a planet. That king vegeta scene is filler and never happened in the continuity of the series. Roshi destroyed the moon with a pl of 180 Power levels aren't linear so just because someone's might be 5x stronger than roshi doesn't mean they're 5x moon lvl and can destroy a planet. The first confirmed p PL of a person capable of destroying a planet was vegeta with a pl of 18k and raditz only had PL of 1500/1600 so u can't confirm he's anything but unquantifiable moon+
@@Auron1Roxas2 its not that he would be massive its the fact that if he turned great ape he would be close to vegeta's powerlevel now look me at the eyes and tell me they have any fkn chance aginst vegeta 😂
@@omereltayeb7711 Clown great ape doesn't matter. Vegeta can't beat any of the monster 3. They're faster and far more powerful. The real scaling for them would be large planet to star level considering how massive the one piece world is. It doesn't matter if vegeta is "planetary", because that planet is just an earth sized one. There is nothing in the canon material that shows vegeta can destroy anything on the level of a star that early on. You can fit 1300 earths in a large planet like jupiter and 1.3 million earths in the sun. That's the level of power the straw hats are currently at, the saiyans stand no chance.
@@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot raditz probably couldn't destroy earth so that's why I say small planet, master roshi was able to blow up the moon tho, same for piccolo
Zoro and Sanji’s Moon Level AP wouldn’t be able to damage planetary level beings. The difference between Moon Level to Small Planet Level to Planet level is pretty large. And even more so for Nami and Continental compared to planet level. Raditz is likely small planet level, but at worst is several tiers of one shot level into Moon level as even Roshi’s Max Kamehameha obliterated the Moon, and Raditz could one shot Krillin and low dif Goku, stop Goku’s Super Kamehameha which doubled his strength, and Piccolo’s attacks besides special beam so unless Sanji and Zoro are massively deep into moon level, they aren’t damaging Raditz The faster straw hats are likely faster and might be able to annoy him with dura neg but if they get past Raditz, that’s about all they could do
I think you missed out a thing with Raditz is that he can FLY, this a huge advantage considering none of the strawhats can fly except for Luffy making all the efforts of the strawhats worthless since he can just blast them without them reaching him so what would happen is: The Monster trio jumps Raditz Raditz dodges and flies up in the air Double Sunday Conclusion: everyone died negative diff
Bruh dbz characters, especially the Saiyans, are planet busters..if you cant destroy planets, don't even come to the table..power scale of the most powerful people between the two shows/manga are completely different.
Db characters aren’t as strong as people think. No one is light speed that early in db. Db characters have been shown to be nowhere near light speed, the beams don’t really matter since later on multiple inconsistencies prove their speeds aren’t anywhere near light. It took Goku over 100 days to cross snake way. If he was anywhere near light speed, that should have taken seconds. Same with him flying over snake way when he’s stronger than raditz. He should be stronger and faster than raditz yet it still took him over a day to get back when it should have taken him seconds. Then of course we have super with dyspo reaching light speed in short bursts and being too fast for hit. The same hit who could keep up with super saiyan blue Goku. He even went faster than light, though it’s never said how much faster, and was still too much for hit. Goku was only able to keep up with dyspo because his actions were predictable. So no light speed feats for early dragon ball, far too many inconsistencies that prove it wrong and it basically all gets retconned in super. Being planetary in one piece is not the same as being planetary in other verses. The one piece world is massive, even having multiple moons orbiting it. This puts it at the low end large planet to star level in size. So it doesn’t matter how many moons or planets the saiyans can blow up, they’re not scaling to luffy, zorro, or sanji. The straw hats win.
@ Nothing but a single statement suggests that and we’re not even talking about cell you pathetic clown. We’re talking about the saiyans, who lose in this fight. Deals with it.
Alright now for raditz scaling Firstly via upscaling from roshi's feat he reaches large star level(due to it reaching dwarf star level and him getting much stronger and confirming he can onky beat old dkp with mafuba then he becomes prime dkp then kami flicks the goku who beat him then piccolo confirms he is 100× above everyone else conbined including kami but lets just say its 5× goku is stronger than him goku gets stronger raditz beats him easily) Secondly he has alot of resistances because of ki Thirdly via downscaling from the spaceship he reaches a very high speed tier if you dont want to use that he reaches a very high speed tier upscaling from kid goku's laser dodging feat
And he really downplayed the saiyans because piccolo and roshi both not only blowed up the moon but also evaporated the moon which was calculated to be large plantery and raditz is at least 5 times stronger than piccolo and at least 10 time stronger than roshi so you can make the argument for raditz being large plantery to multi large plantery and he also can use the ozaru if its a full moon which would make him equal in power or almost as powerfull as vegeta who had a powerlevel of 18000 in terms of speed raditz is ftl but if he turned ozaru he would scale or supass namek ship goku who was able to dodge rocks in space while riding his space ship which traveled to the otherside of the universe on only six days which was calculated to be traviling at 1 trillion times the speed of light so if raditz turned ozaru not only would he be way stronger than any of them he would be way way faster too
It depends on though like goku at age of 15 when he fought king piccolo was much stronger than tournament arc roshi who with powerlevel of 180 was capable of destroying the moon Goku has power level of 256 So goku here must be capable of destroying multi continental size level and as for his speed well he should be faster than lightspeed at this point and we actually saw how kizaru easily blitz luffy while being at speed of light So having a character that is even faster is big problem however i see strawhats combined might be able to defeat him But defeaing raditz who has power level over 1000 is impossible It would need at least akainu , aokiji and kizaru combined force to defeat raditz Any other saiyans that are above raditz like nappa , bardock and king vegeta are absolute overkill
Calling Chopper useless in combat exposes u as a casual, Monster Point is the 5th strongest in the crew only below Jimbei, Sanji, Zoro and ofc Luffy Edit: What’s worse is putting Jimbei in the middle class with Brook, Franky and Robin, he should be with Sanji and Zoro, Luffy isn’t in the “big 3” he’s far ahead of Zoro and Sanji, Jimbei is relative to Sanji and Zoro
Ok dude one thing here the PACIFISTA beams are not lightspeed Only kizaru can truly do lightspeed attacks as shown in egghead And not forgetting Vegapunk studied on kizaru's abilitys to make the beam He did not copy the beams because as vegapunk is very proud of his invetions he would have mentioned sucessifuly cloning a df ability And now to the op size scaling People say that alabasta is arround the size of autralias because of the 5 kilometer river And people say that the op world is arround dwarf star level But this is just plain disingenuous nothing in op has a direct size like zunesha who for a long time could reach space until he was shrunken to 5 kl in height Or saying that the op sea is 10k kl deep when the only place where is that deep is fish man island And theres the fact that the straw hats crossed half the world in about 3 months so removing all the time they spent goofing arround or not moving they crossed half the world And doubling it you could arguably say that the one piece world is just about 1.5 to 3 times bigger than earth
@worldbosspf1 oh yeah i forgot to add but theres that mode where he actually becomes light speed his base form isnt just that mode that i dont think has a specific name
@@MilesEdits19 Luffy was using it on Kaido on rooftop and was still getting beat on with the other Supernovas by the Emperors. That fact that Luffy struggle so much in the fight with them even with Advance Conquer’s and with the Sayians being so much stronger then Kaido and Big Mom, its a mute point to mention.
@@MilesEdits19 I don’t have to, because the way powerscaling works in Dragon ball is at a certain point if a Dragon ball character powercliffs their opponent, they negate any hax they use on them. We have seen this proven many times before with characters like Vegito, Mercenary Tao, Jiren, Frieza, etc.
Being island level is not continental, being stronger then someone who’s island level doesn’t mean they are moon level, beams do not move at light speed 😂, try again
Ok but here's the thing right They have a whole year before they get there Thats more than enough time for luffy to become pirate king and the straw hats to get massively stronger and then put the works on nappa lmao But thats a hypothetical but its fun to think about
You're downplaying the straw hats the weakling trio are at least island level relativistic middle fou are large continent to multi-continental with relativistic+ to light speed Zoro and Sanji are planetary mftl or at least I think so and Luffy can comfortably be scaled to mftl+ and star to solar system and maybe even higher according to other UA-camrs like steinixos and other one piece tubers. Still a fun vid.keep going with what you think
Sorry I love one piece a lot I’m covering in tattoo from one piece. Sorry to say that Luffy is not solar system. Not saying he won’t reach those level but with his stamina issue he’s not there yet.
Bro wtf 😂. There are no clear island level feats in op let alone continental. And don’t get me started with the stupidly inconsistent size scaling op has. The biggest feat in op is imu destroying an island, and that was using a weapon. You can’t really bring up the island sizes as well as we can clearly see that island are regular size islands.
@@destinyvortex4845 you make fair points but just being logical about it and also doing some chain scaling you can get to literally solar and even if you wanna say that's glaze at least planet the world is generally agreed to bdwarf star to star Size so I don't really know how to continue so it's up to you how you Wanna interpret the information
Idk we definitely need to see more of luffy. His strongest attack so far was the one he hit on kaido. That was big to continental island level at best. Maybe he’ll touch planetary when we see more of his imagination hacks.
I don't think the straw hats can beat raditz even if they could it would be a extreme/diff fight & nappa is way stronger than raditz & don't even talk about vegeta because bro is soloing the entire op verse...💀🗿
It depends on though like goku at age of 15 when he fought king piccolo was much stronger than tournament arc roshi who with powerlevel of 180 was capable of destroying the moon Goku has power level of 256 So goku here must be capable of destroying multi continental size level and as for his speed well he should be faster than lightspeed at this point and we actually saw how kizaru easily blitz luffy while being at speed of light So having a character that is even faster is big problem however i see strawhats combined might be able to defeat him But defeaing raditz who has power level over 1000 is impossible It would need at least akainu , aokiji and kizaru combined force to defeat raditz Any other saiyans that are above raditz like nappa , bardock and king vegeta are absolute overkill
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Who let bro cook? Sanji is faster than Luffy? Sanji has the same AP as Zoro and faster? 😂 Bro take this down.
He’s probably faster than G2 and G4 Luffy, and he’s definitely faster than Zoro. AP is debatable since Zoro won his major fight of the arc using Haki based Dura Neg and Sanji was using raw AP and maybe heat hax which is only dura neg depending on the persons resistance to heat
From statements we have seen yeah Sanji outscales Luffy in speed. The AP is in a similar ballpark to Zoro its around multi continental no higher. Whats the issue? Id say you should take your comment down, its dumb and makes you look clueless.
Yeah bro was catching and eating kizaru's lasers lol
Thing is, they won’t know his tail is his weakness so aren’t likely to grab it. Without that handicap, Raditz is killing every last one of them except maybe the monster trio with ease.
Observation haki will help you sense where strengths and weaknesses are. And they future site. Even if they could attack a dude tail isn’t something revolutionary to think about☠️
@@Marcus-gf5uq even then they arent going to catch him off guard since they’re significantly slower than even kid goku.
Even if they grab his tail, he can just detach it
Vertics: Nami may hurt Nadizt
Radizt after Piccolo's Planetary blast: 😴
Depending on the argument and circumstances relax pal it’s not a definite
@@Vertics_ no the problem is that you need to understand that there isn’t even an argument. Current Strawhats are still fodder to the saiyan saga
@@Vertics_I know you bullshiting the straw hats will destroy the damn Saiyans without a problem stop hyping up Dragon Ball characters just so you can have to win so this whole video is just nothing but a fucking play bullshiting at its finest
Lets be real, Raditz speed blitzes all of them and none of them can even hurt him unless his tail is grabbed and hes defenseless, no strawhat has moon level attacks, and it takes atleast 3x that for a low ball to be able to kill raditz cleanly. The glaze on the strawhats is insane, franky having continental AP is cap.
Yo mom has continental AP
😂 Bro what are you talking about? Raditz is not faster than Luffy with Future Sight. Luffy is MFTL+ (by fighting a guy that can accelerate pass light speed) and can see the future. What definative scaling do you have for Raditz that puts him above that?
No Straw hat is moon level? Bare minimum Luffy is. I'm pretty sure most measurements put the size of Luffys fist during the Bajrang gun being larger than Madara's heaven concealed meteors, an that fist is much much more durable and much much more powerful than rock, by an insane amount, if Luffy threw that attack at the moon, there'd be no more moon, for certain
I’m so sick of people saying the straw hats can destroy a continent most strawhats don’t have ability’s that can even destroy a country let alone a continent saying the one piece world is bigger than the real world isn’t a good enough excuse there no way zoro and sanji are gonna destroy a moon😭
AP≠DC.
Sai could one shot a continent in Dressrosa and he is weaker than pretty much every strawhat at this point.
the entire straw hat crew can’t even touch krillin
@@coffees8302 They very easily destroy krillin clown.
@@Auron1Roxas2 beginning of z krillin is comparable to a level just below moon level. So yeah you have a point, they can beat krillin.
But current krillin? HELL NO
@@Soapman18 Current krillin is hardly different from how he was, he didn't get that much stronger. You clowns try to upscale weak db characters to levels they are not at with no real evidence. Krillin was not keeping pace with super saiyan blue, goku was holding back. Trying to dispute that just makes blue look way weaker than it actually is. The straw hats dog walk krillin with ease. Deal with it.
@Auron1Roxas2 You have a a good point, and it is true that ssgss was used so that krillin can't sense how much power Goku was using. But Krillin’s final battle power was printed in an issue of V-Jump. At the beginning of the fight with Freeza, he had a battle power of 75,000. This power level is way higher than Vegeta who was destroying planets left and right with no difficulty. Plus, in one saga his power level went from around 1k to 75k, how do you think a martial artist doesn't get stronger in like decades?
One thing i hope the wiki includes on the next set of calcs is Luffy and Kaido battling inside a massive lightning strike. I counted it up, they fought a full minute inside the bolt of lightning, and the bolt didnt even get to play out its full strike, before Kaido dispersed it. Thats on top of luffy throwing 6 of them to entrap kaido, then bouncing between them so fast that him bouncing between 6 lightning pillars and attacking kaido at the same time looked like no movement was ocurring at all. Its insane that people want to doubt luffys light speed this day in age
When has anyyyy one piece character shown any feats to be considered planetary? You are cooked
I can only think of someone saying that white beards fruit had the power to destroy the world
But thats about it for planetary level
@ right, and he never showed even island level lol
@@CERISTHEDEVthe one piece world is many times larger than earth
@@ZacuriahMiller-li2ewdoesn’t matter, they still don’t even have continental feats
@ they literally do
As an avid One Piece fan and Dragon Ball enjoyer i was surprised they even made it past Raditz
Great video!
*looks at chopper*
nappa: "Vegta!! look a pokemon, I'll catch it!!!!"
chopper: "You ba*****, I'm a reindee_"
nappa: *throws a pokeball though choppers skull*
I was hoping someone would make an abridged reference like this thank you🙏
Let straw hats get past kid goku from episode 1 let alone raditz😭🙏
Kid goku isn’t that strong until the piccolo saga
First 100 episodes Kid Goku is actually very weak compared to one piece characters
23rd Budokai Goku
@@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot that Goku is super strong I would put him YC1 at most but not yonko or admiral until he gets older near end of the original dragon ball
dawg episode 1 goku gets moliwhopped by nami. the straw hats get cooked once they get to piccolo. before piccolo they're winning and then luffy gets bodied cause realistically there's just him doing damage here
Did you even watch episode one bro that was gokus weakest besides infant flashbacks
bro nami cant scratch raditz. Gokus small planetary kamehameha got blocked by hand
Goku wasn't planetary when fighting raditz
@@MicaW4VEroshi blew up the moon, i feel like goku was planetary at that point
@@MicaW4VEhe for a fact was when at children they were conquering planets master roshi blew uo the moon in dragonball by the time he fought radditz he was beyond that not to mention king vegeta was blowing up planets with the wave of his hand
You never seen Nami slap Luffy and have him looking fucked up😂
@BamBammBeatz it's stated in the guidebook that if u have a PL of at least 10k you can destroy a planet.
That king vegeta scene is filler and never happened in the continuity of the series.
Roshi destroyed the moon with a pl of 180
Power levels aren't linear so just because someone's might be 5x stronger than roshi doesn't mean they're 5x moon lvl and can destroy a planet. The first confirmed p
PL of a person capable of destroying a planet was vegeta with a pl of 18k and raditz only had PL of 1500/1600 so u can't confirm he's anything but unquantifiable moon+
Bro I have watched a video of kosu stating kid goku can solo the one piece verse and now you are saying that straw hats have chance against Raditz.
Kosu is a good friend of mine we can disagree
POV Stawhats watching raditz become a giant ape 💀
@@Nolanhxj The one piece world is inhabited by giants and creatures bigger than the great ape form.
@@Auron1Roxas2U do know that These sayains destroy and conquer planets every day right??
@@Auron1Roxas2 its not that he would be massive its the fact that if he turned great ape he would be close to vegeta's powerlevel now look me at the eyes and tell me they have any fkn chance aginst vegeta 😂
@@omereltayeb7711 Clown great ape doesn't matter. Vegeta can't beat any of the monster 3. They're faster and far more powerful. The real scaling for them would be large planet to star level considering how massive the one piece world is. It doesn't matter if vegeta is "planetary", because that planet is just an earth sized one. There is nothing in the canon material that shows vegeta can destroy anything on the level of a star that early on. You can fit 1300 earths in a large planet like jupiter and 1.3 million earths in the sun. That's the level of power the straw hats are currently at, the saiyans stand no chance.
you’re cooking bro
He burned the food
He burned down the entire Baratie. 😂 Enjoyable video tho.
Did ts really need a whole ass 18 minute video
I love one piece but this argument is the most stupid things of all times
One Piece fans for you…
You should make Strawhats vs Fist of the North Star. It is more fair.
Facts the strawhats lose. they might beat raditz high def probably
Do the strawhats have small planet level feats?
@swordsunknown5226 small Planetary is 22nd Budokai level
@@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot raditz probably couldn't destroy earth so that's why I say small planet, master roshi was able to blow up the moon tho, same for piccolo
@@swordsunknown5226they don't need small planetary feats if they have durability negation
Chopper blocked Linlin and a Gorosei. He also landed a good slap on Queen. He's really More Powerful than Franky in Monster Point.
Lend me sum haki joy boy this is base raditz we're up against
Akainu (goat) wins low diff with only one magma clone
Zoro and Sanji’s Moon Level AP wouldn’t be able to damage planetary level beings. The difference between Moon Level to Small Planet Level to Planet level is pretty large. And even more so for Nami and Continental compared to planet level.
Raditz is likely small planet level, but at worst is several tiers of one shot level into Moon level as even Roshi’s Max Kamehameha obliterated the Moon, and Raditz could one shot Krillin and low dif Goku, stop Goku’s Super Kamehameha which doubled his strength, and Piccolo’s attacks besides special beam so unless Sanji and Zoro are massively deep into moon level, they aren’t damaging Raditz
The faster straw hats are likely faster and might be able to annoy him with dura neg but if they get past Raditz, that’s about all they could do
I think you missed out a thing with Raditz is that he can FLY, this a huge advantage considering none of the strawhats can fly except for Luffy making all the efforts of the strawhats worthless since he can just blast them without them reaching him so what would happen is:
The Monster trio jumps Raditz
Raditz dodges and flies up in the air
Double Sunday
Conclusion: everyone died negative diff
Does anyone know the name of the music that is playing at three minutes and fifty seconds into the video?
No
Straw hate getting killed sadly they can’t past Raddizt
brro will you make a vdo on punk hazard battle?
Nah but it'd be epic.
They might win with law
they aren’t beating raditz, let alone master roshi in og db
Bruh dbz characters, especially the Saiyans, are planet busters..if you cant destroy planets, don't even come to the table..power scale of the most powerful people between the two shows/manga are completely different.
Yeah strawhats have ZERO chance, flat out. ALL of the saiyans would basically be superman type characters in one piece….its goodnight lol
Db characters aren’t as strong as people think. No one is light speed that early in db. Db characters have been shown to be nowhere near light speed, the beams don’t really matter since later on multiple inconsistencies prove their speeds aren’t anywhere near light. It took Goku over 100 days to cross snake way. If he was anywhere near light speed, that should have taken seconds. Same with him flying over snake way when he’s stronger than raditz. He should be stronger and faster than raditz yet it still took him over a day to get back when it should have taken him seconds. Then of course we have super with dyspo reaching light speed in short bursts and being too fast for hit. The same hit who could keep up with super saiyan blue Goku. He even went faster than light, though it’s never said how much faster, and was still too much for hit. Goku was only able to keep up with dyspo because his actions were predictable. So no light speed feats for early dragon ball, far too many inconsistencies that prove it wrong and it basically all gets retconned in super. Being planetary in one piece is not the same as being planetary in other verses. The one piece world is massive, even having multiple moons orbiting it. This puts it at the low end large planet to star level in size. So it doesn’t matter how many moons or planets the saiyans can blow up, they’re not scaling to luffy, zorro, or sanji. The straw hats win.
Cope harder bro
Cell is capable of destroying entire solar syster
@ Nothing but a single statement suggests that and we’re not even talking about cell you pathetic clown. We’re talking about the saiyans, who lose in this fight. Deals with it.
Alright now for raditz scaling
Firstly via upscaling from roshi's feat he reaches large star level(due to it reaching dwarf star level and him getting much stronger and confirming he can onky beat old dkp with mafuba then he becomes prime dkp then kami flicks the goku who beat him then piccolo confirms he is 100× above everyone else conbined including kami but lets just say its 5× goku is stronger than him goku gets stronger raditz beats him easily)
Secondly he has alot of resistances because of ki
Thirdly via downscaling from the spaceship he reaches a very high speed tier if you dont want to use that he reaches a very high speed tier upscaling from kid goku's laser dodging feat
And he really downplayed the saiyans because piccolo and roshi both not only blowed up the moon but also evaporated the moon which was calculated to be large plantery and raditz is at least 5 times stronger than piccolo and at least 10 time stronger than roshi so you can make the argument for raditz being large plantery to multi large plantery and he also can use the ozaru if its a full moon which would make him equal in power or almost as powerfull as vegeta who had a powerlevel of 18000 in terms of speed raditz is ftl but if he turned ozaru he would scale or supass namek ship goku who was able to dodge rocks in space while riding his space ship which traveled to the otherside of the universe on only six days which was calculated to be traviling at 1 trillion times the speed of light so if raditz turned ozaru not only would he be way stronger than any of them he would be way way faster too
It depends on
though like goku at age of 15 when he fought king piccolo was much stronger than tournament arc roshi who with powerlevel of 180 was capable of destroying the moon
Goku has power level of 256
So goku here must be capable of destroying multi continental size level and as for his speed well he should be faster than lightspeed at this point and we actually saw how kizaru easily blitz luffy while being at speed of light
So having a character that is even faster is big problem
however i see strawhats combined might be able to defeat him
But defeaing raditz who has power level over 1000 is impossible
It would need at least akainu , aokiji and kizaru combined force to defeat raditz
Any other saiyans that are above raditz like nappa , bardock and king vegeta are absolute overkill
Yeah strawhats have ZERO chance, flat out.
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Calling Chopper useless in combat exposes u as a casual, Monster Point is the 5th strongest in the crew only below Jimbei, Sanji, Zoro and ofc Luffy
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What’s worse is putting Jimbei in the middle class with Brook, Franky and Robin, he should be with Sanji and Zoro, Luffy isn’t in the “big 3” he’s far ahead of Zoro and Sanji, Jimbei is relative to Sanji and Zoro
Literally any db character in that arc one shots monster point chopper. He is not that strong and still doesn’t do shit.
@ fair but at least put him with Brook, Robin and Franky placing him with Nami (and specifically Usopp) is disrespectful
So does dura negate matters in these fight?
No because ki counters that aswell
Ok dude one thing here the PACIFISTA beams are not lightspeed
Only kizaru can truly do lightspeed attacks as shown in egghead
And not forgetting
Vegapunk studied on kizaru's abilitys to make the beam
He did not copy the beams because as vegapunk is very proud of his invetions he would have mentioned sucessifuly cloning a df ability
And now to the op size scaling
People say that alabasta is arround the size of autralias because of the 5 kilometer river
And people say that the op world is arround dwarf star level
But this is just plain disingenuous nothing in op has a direct size like zunesha who for a long time could reach space until he was shrunken to 5 kl in height
Or saying that the op sea is 10k kl deep when the only place where is that deep is fish man island
And theres the fact that the straw hats crossed half the world in about 3 months so removing all the time they spent goofing arround or not moving they crossed half the world
And doubling it you could arguably say that the one piece world is just about 1.5 to 3 times bigger than earth
Kizaru attacks are not lightspeed, it's just attacks made out of light.
@worldbosspf1 oh yeah i forgot to add but theres that mode where he actually becomes light speed his base form isnt just that mode that i dont think has a specific name
@@worldbosspf1The man made out of photons who can kick and move at the speed of light doesn’t have light speed attacks. Yeah that makes sense.
Why isn’t luffy using dura neg in this fight
It won’t matter. If Kaido can handle it, the Sayians are going to obliterate Luffy even if he somehow gets a chance to use it.
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Yeah, you’re gonna have to prove that
@@MilesEdits19 Luffy was using it on Kaido on rooftop and was still getting beat on with the other Supernovas by the Emperors. That fact that Luffy struggle so much in the fight with them even with Advance Conquer’s and with the Sayians being so much stronger then Kaido and Big Mom, its a mute point to mention.
@ well you have to prove that they have better internal durability which you cannot do well at least that point in drag Ball
@@MilesEdits19 I don’t have to, because the way powerscaling works in Dragon ball is at a certain point if a Dragon ball character powercliffs their opponent, they negate any hax they use on them. We have seen this proven many times before with characters like Vegito, Mercenary Tao, Jiren, Frieza, etc.
Bro this is a nasty setup….
Just say you hate the straw hats😭
Yamacha did defeat the Saiyan man easily it's just it off guard him and exploded on him. Don't disrespect my boy 😂😂
No shot they get past Raditz. Sorry bro but they get bodied.
U glazed the strawhats so bad and still couldnt pull it off they wouldnt even get past master roshi in dragonball tbh
Naw bro did chopper against queen i said chopper physical stronger the brook robin and frankly
Jackie Chun solos
Akainu victims
Raditz farts and the op verse is dead
1 saibamen neg diffs the verse
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Being island level is not continental, being stronger then someone who’s island level doesn’t mean they are moon level, beams do not move at light speed 😂, try again
Photons move at light speed, genius.
@@Ghostface833 photons have no mass, so your correct, but it’s irrelevant. The Beams have mass which exert force. They are not just photons
@ They are photons.
@@Ghostface833 F=M*A, if mass is 0 then the force is also 0… explain that if its light speed and just photons.
@ The beams are light speed. Argue with Oda.
Doflamingo>>franky
Ok but here's the thing right
They have a whole year before they get there
Thats more than enough time for luffy to become pirate king and the straw hats to get massively stronger and then put the works on nappa lmao
But thats a hypothetical but its fun to think about
You're downplaying the straw hats the weakling trio are at least island level relativistic middle fou are large continent to multi-continental with relativistic+ to light speed Zoro and Sanji are planetary mftl or at least I think so and Luffy can comfortably be scaled to mftl+ and star to solar system and maybe even higher according to other UA-camrs like steinixos and other one piece tubers.
Still a fun vid.keep going with what you think
Sorry I love one piece a lot I’m covering in tattoo from one piece. Sorry to say that Luffy is not solar system. Not saying he won’t reach those level but with his stamina issue he’s not there yet.
@@exoticgaming3204 fair enough but both the visa covering G5 scaling get him in those ranges but bare minimum planetary with mftl
Bro wtf 😂. There are no clear island level feats in op let alone continental. And don’t get me started with the stupidly inconsistent size scaling op has. The biggest feat in op is imu destroying an island, and that was using a weapon. You can’t really bring up the island sizes as well as we can clearly see that island are regular size islands.
@@destinyvortex4845 you make fair points but just being logical about it and also doing some chain scaling you can get to literally solar and even if you wanna say that's glaze at least planet the world is generally agreed to bdwarf star to star Size so I don't really know how to continue so it's up to you how you Wanna interpret the information
Idk we definitely need to see more of luffy. His strongest attack so far was the one he hit on kaido. That was big to continental island level at best. Maybe he’ll touch planetary when we see more of his imagination hacks.
The beat nappa, vegeta annihilates them sadly
I don't think the straw hats can beat raditz even if they could it would be a extreme/diff fight & nappa is way stronger than raditz & don't even talk about vegeta because bro is soloing the entire op verse...💀🗿
It depends on
though like goku at age of 15 when he fought king piccolo was much stronger than tournament arc roshi who with powerlevel of 180 was capable of destroying the moon
Goku has power level of 256
So goku here must be capable of destroying multi continental size level and as for his speed well he should be faster than lightspeed at this point and we actually saw how kizaru easily blitz luffy while being at speed of light
So having a character that is even faster is big problem
however i see strawhats combined might be able to defeat him
But defeaing raditz who has power level over 1000 is impossible
It would need at least akainu , aokiji and kizaru combined force to defeat raditz
Any other saiyans that are above raditz like nappa , bardock and king vegeta are absolute overkill
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