Bad News in the Bin: Damaged Soybeans
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- We continued taking beans out of our grain bin and started running into a little trouble. After a little looking we figure out the problem was coming from a few leaks in around the vents in the roof.
I think you need to be real careful in that bin since you have been taking beans out already. Also I would have a talk with whoever built the bin & didn't seal the vents. They should stand the loss.
I know someone that died in a grain bin accident last week. He was working at an elevator and he was cleaning inside the bin and became submerged under corn and ended up dieing. Just be careful while inside a bin!
Shawn, I just saw this video & was so nervous that Cole would sink down in those soybeans & die!! We've since watched videos where people did die like that. I hope Cole listened to your comment!!!
It looks to me like the guy's that built the bin applied the sealant in the wrong place so when the vent was put onto the roof it didn't seat onto the sealant. Poor workmanship sadly is putting you in danger because you are in a partially emptied bin trying to make a repair.
Stay safe young man and be more careful in those bins.
Seeing him up walking in there makes me cringe. Stay safe don’t do it
I used to work at a bin company and had to fix quite a few of these problems, usually on older bins though. Sorry to tell you but that silicone won't last a year. Best thing to do without too much work would be to get some butyl rubber caulk for gutters. Apple liberally on the outside of the vent and roof. If possible, try getting into the holes. Then put a nice bead all along the 2 sides and top and smooth out with finger or a narrow putty knife. The pressure will ensure it is sticking. This stuff is sticky as all hell, especially in the summer. It will get on you, but penetrating oil takes it off. It stays flexible year round and will last a long, long time. Dont be skimpy on applying it. Wear a safety harness when on the roof doing this, tied off to the roof ring.
You might want to also put some silicone around the outside edges of the vents too for more protection. Having it on the inside only might cause it to come loose and leak again. In this instance, extra is a better bet than just enough to plug the holes.
I 2nd that
Calking on the outside is the ticket.
I thought they made pre-formed GASKETS for those openings ! That's Ridiculous.
With respect to you....those safety comments take them with our concern not just for you but for your family and other viewers....nice to here your going back to school...
Be careful climbing into a bin that has been pulled from, thats one of the most dangerous things to do because of the voids that can be created. If I ever get into one that we've been pulling from, I always wear a harness.
I 2nd that
@Cole Casavant It's still extremely dangerous, especially since there was spoiled grain in there. What that does is create voids that when someone gets on it can collapse and pull you into that void, many people have been killed that way. Like I said, its almost impossible to avoid getting in bins because sumps do plug. But whenever I get in I always have a harness that is tethered to the roof of the bin.
@Cole Casavant The grain can act like quick sand and pull you down under the grain.
So then where do you run the harness to then?
@@J-1410 We run the harness right out the top of the bin
Glad to see a South Dakota Farmer is showing us whats its like especially this year with the spring thaw and flood and summer we had with the monsoon of rain, you put out some quality content, you got my subscribe.
Thank you!
@@SonneFarms as a fellow south dakotan its awesome to see content coming from the state you represent
Time to check the silicone... and apply some on the outside this time, from on top of the roof. That will force rain to go around. Applying silicone on the inside will allow rain to puddle and sit, and possible puddle enough that more rain will come along, and grow the puddle until water gets up and around your silicone. Best wishes that you prevented any further leaking!
Jesse, your right, it needs to go on the outside to shed an divert the water away
I was curious to how old that bin was? Looks fairly new. If that's the kind of work they do I would look for other problems before too late. They tried to put caulk down first and than place the vent on the caulk but weren't even close. I would show them the video proof and demand some kind of compensation. Great channel.
Marine caulks are not just for boats...Here in the deep South East Texas I keep a tube in my freezer, the way to preserve it once the tube is open. (Learned that from the local hardware guy) Obviously it doesn’t freeze .. suitable for South Dakota. A bit pricey but that may offset the dockage charge and the maintenance upkeep on those bin vents.
You need someone watching you when you’re in that bin.
Not surprised for a newer bin to not be sealed correctly... really have to watch contractors nowadays to make sure everything is put together right. We always find some spoilage every year for our grain, either nearby the doors, near fan ducts, or other areas where moisture can seep in (snow being the main culprit, and this winter was no joke again).
Viewers have mentioned a bit about being in the grain bin, especially having spoiled grain and such, pretty dangerous... should have almost waited until new crop went in the bin or used a harness of somesort in that situation. But also wondering about not wearing a mask? Grain dust is one thing, but mold spores are another. Stay safe!
Jose he no care!
I love the videos keep up the good work love the farm
You are more brave then me climbing around in there. Very unsafe be careful man
I can't understand how I missed this video I watched all of them this is from 4 years ago
Next time u have any issues you should call Dakota grain & salvage!
I’m from Plankinton and I think it’s awesome to see someone so close to home 😂
Nooooo, don't go in the bin❤❤❤❤said with love, and I'm a financial advisor, know nothing about ranching😞
Hell yeah we blend that stuff all the time. I'm just surprised a leaker spot got so hot like that
Man that really sucks but it is what it is
I build bins and i can tell you who ever installed your vents did it incorrectly. Now most all your bin manufactures per punch vent openings in the roof sheets. But the reason there leaking is because when they cut in the vents the sheet should have been bent up to create a valley. You will never keep them from leaking bc the silicone will just keep cracking. I would suggest hiring someone who knows what there doing to redue vents.
damn us farmer's are always fighting one problem or another. and of all things to cause an issue with stored grain is a $5 tube of silicone. I hate storing beans they aren't as hardy as corn.
Guy,this is awesome, I want to start my own storing farm in my country but I wish to use a lot of technology.
Sorry for your loss that sucks thank God you didn't sink in there be careful please
My mind is sinking into the tagyl when I jump inside the cover, go man
Get on the phone and get the person who built that bin to composite your losses. They can't do shady work like that and get away with it.
Good thing you guys have blower fans on your bins. Otherwise you'd be stirring those soybeans around inside by shovel every day it gets hot and muggy out. Knew a wheat farmer who had to do that with one of his bins that didn't have a blower fan on it. Doesn't matter if it's wheat or soybeans, if it gets hot enough inside those bins, they'll catch fire.
Your video is very good, the work on the farm does not stop.
From the bin mfg web page "A 1-inch tall ridge surrounding the vent hole prevents moisture from entering the bin." Looks like the installer somehow cut that off or didn't use the proper roof panels for the vents.. You would probably get some support from Superior Bins to get this fixed..
Well "lifetime roof and bottom ring warranty"
Man are you new there are no farmers I know would enter a bin that’s bridging after removing some loads. Your life is worth more and the gases from fermenting beans are toxic
i use lexal in the clear tube. good for 40 years and stays flexible. good luck
You should get in there and check it All winter long. I turn my fans on every time it rains. All my roof vents leak. Just part of farming. I'm looking for something to spray on the entire roof. Like a liquid rubber coating, thick though like rhino liner
They did a terrible job of sealing those vents. I would call, or at least send them pics.
rain your best friend or your worst enemy
I enjoyed very much TY for sharing
I build shields to keep them vents from rusting out
Glad you made it out ok sometimes you can sink in the crops
bad design, good bins dont need any extra sealing, that manhole should have bent flanges upwards one piece all around
Love the vids but wish they weren’t so short. Keep up the good work
Omg the way he looks now is sooo different
Please for your safety treat those bins like a confined space. Because it is. You need to test the atmosphere before going in.
I work at grain elevator I’ve seen a lot over the years. I would never ever trust the beans it looks like there would be slide and suck u right In
Who built that thing? a Swiss Gruyere cheese company
Do you know if your soybeans go to cattle or humans or both? What makes soybeans fit for human consumption or animal consumption? Is there a difference?
Question, can't you shovel into buckets the worst of it out of there?
How old is the bin? i'd be sending some photo's and a legal letter to the bin builders, hope the whole bin doesn't get rejected.
Well if it is a Superior bin, it is supposed to have lifetime roof and bottom ring warranty, with exceptions though.
Should have put breathing protection on plus a Harness. Mold from the beans nothing to mess with and Engulfment is a Very Difficult Rescue
Cool vid! Thx!
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Don’t mind doing mild care-taking chores if I end up renting a house on a farm. Willing to pay three months rent up front starting in September. Have a small dog, otherwise it’s just me.
If you know of anyone or hear of anyone that needs to rent a little farm house out from September to February, lemme know on here.
Happy to provide references and info for background check.
Thx.
try using black silicone that is uv ray resistant and it might cost more but it should last a lot longer.
Yikes that was dangerous!
I always thought silos were confined spaces ???
I feel for ya son.
A FATHER AND SON TEAM OUT OF WISCONSIN...ON NTD...TALKES ABOUT BEING OPTIMISTIC ABOUT HARVEST....WANTED TO LET U KNOW.....SOUND CHEAPER TO ME !!!!!
I've started watching over again great videos but just wondering if it is possible for a fire in the silo and if you ever hear of one?
Pants inside your boots in the bin? I'll bet you filled those boots right up with beans.
I sure did
Nice video to see.
Great video 👌
Thank you!
You will trap water by going around the inside but I'm sure it will work don't you love it when you get something new and its halfassed put together
yes the best would be to remove the wents and add a layer of silicone between the layers,
ore as you say add silicone from the out-upside, so water cant be trapd in the cracks.
which would be catastrophic here in norway where we have lots of freezing periods in winter, where water would freeze at night and taw in the sun.
If ya got to be in there displace your weight with somethin a 2x12 is better than nothing, you know yourself if it goes south where your at on top that's a long way down
It would probably be better to do the outside of all those but I suppose you cant get to them from the top of bin huh!!!
Dont you think you should caulk around the top edge of the vent on the outside? I get that being on the inside is a lot easier, but you re letting the water under the flange to where the screws are. Just my thought. I call the morons who built it, and tell them to come try again.
Why are you working around all that mold without a mask on
Hope that the rotten soybeans are just in the top few feet and the rest hopefully will be better. I wander if the grain gets hot enough if it will start on fire?
Yea it was just those 5-6 spots, its a bummer but the vast majority of the beans will test okay
Should calk around the outside also
The people that put them up would be fixing that.
Some strips of rubber would be better, and last much longer than a bit of mastic.
WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Are you walking around in a bin that has grain taken out of it
by the way the chunks are because the moisture and dirt getting together and making chunks
muito importante estar com a manutenção em dia, para que diminua os custos com as percas de soja de qualidade.
First I have seen this video even though I have watched most of them. But it makes my skin crawl that you just waltzed in there with no sense or 'look' or feeling for any danger when we know there are many in especially a bin thats already had material pulled from it. Your an intelligent guy but hey man, just take a step backwards !
Thats Black mold, i would think it would kill the whole bin full??
That's actually pretty cool I've never seen what they look like with corn inside them don't you have to wear a harness so that way you don't s i n k?
You don't just sink, in farm accidents the issue is from enter the bin when it is actively pulling grain down, or if a film of grain forms and you walk on it thinking it is solid but you fall through
You could use a battery operated caulking gun.
In a bin, on your own, with no harness 🤯😲🤯😲🤯.
What if there was a gap under that top layer that now, with your weight added, gave way.?🤔😲🤔😲🤔.
Is this not a recipe for disaster 🤔🤯🤔.
Love the vids, which can't happen if you're buried half way down a bin, can they 🤔🤔.
Would LOVE them to continue please.
Don't die.! I'd have nothing to watch on UA-cam, would I.?
Rich UK 🥰🥰.
Your right, plus no one their watching either, never go in after I take from a bin especially when their is crusting or damage grain in the bin, quick way to to say bye!! Not smart
Next time in the bin make sure to where your harness safety is first
The caulking should go on the OUTSIDE, not the inside,
The life of a farmer aye. It's gotta sting when your crops get ruined as well as the already harvested goods. Hope next harvest goes better for you guys! :)
Really no safety harness?
Silicone is the wrong product for what your doing bro. I'd use a boat or RV sealant that will last the test of time or you could use a flexible roof sealant. I'm sure those bin roofs take a beating.
We had this stuff sitting around and I thought it would be better than nothing. We will be checking it from now on and if we decide to do something different we will do some research beforehand and grab the right product
@@SonneFarms its not important WHAT silicone you use, as long as you use ENOUGH ON THE RIGHT PLASES. hehe.
i noticed a few plases in the video where it lookd like the builders had used as little as possible, just drops of silicone on the screws.
Did the silicon/caulk work?
nope
Get rid of that stuff. Mycotoxins are not to play with
That's now how you say silicon lol
That's how HE says it yes.
Incorrect, that is show you say silicon as in Silicon Valley in CA. However what he is applying is silicone, pronounced with cone at the end.
Unacceptable. But not surprised. The last 10 "bin fabrication technicians" I've met in ND came with a meth pipe. Probably similar down there..
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I take it that the black stuff is mold?
damaged beans, pretty much
Just be careful, please! Ya don't want to be breathing any mold! Stay safe!
Not trying to nitpick your video just got to mention that silicon is a metal silicone is what you're using.
Not trying to nitpick your nitpicking but silicon is a not a metal. It is a metaloid.
That was a danger ooo
Too bad when they installed the vents that they should of bent up the upside of the hole so moisture doesn’t get in
Every year I gotta make sure my . . . Nvm
You should have cleaned that metal before applying silicon lad
I want to work with your farm.
Should of put it on the outside
Not good you on top of them beans like that we had someone that was on top of rice like you are on them beans and he lost his life cause he hit a pocket of rice where it was not packed he fell in it and lots his life
Oh...I meant tto say saw the above on 5-14-21
Dangerous
Absolute No No getting in bin like this, no safety harnesses etc, asking for major trouble!
In a previous video you said you will be going back to college. What school do you go to?
South Dakota State University
Sonne Farms awesome! Graduated from there myself. Agronomy 2000
Really bad design!
Sue the builders!
Woah....what a waste...buddies....can we recycle like vaccume damaged area out and separate the dry and wet, at least recover some...or decompose to other process. Provide heat treatment....? Its gonna be huge time consuming....recovery cost...really can see need a few pair of eyes and hands to work with you all...? Very unforeseen things happened....