Fury Buffed AGAIN on the S2 PTR - My Thoughts!
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- More surprise buffs just hit the PTR this week! Let's talk about them...
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There’s nothing I love more than playing “Aoe” Fury Warrior in Mythic+ with a 5 target cap and zero dungeon utility to make up for my shit Aoe. Meanwhile, Ret Pali and Dps Dks get to top dps overall every dungeon, have dungeon utility and, have a battle resurrection. It makes zero sense for Fury to be TARGET CAPPED with no Dungeon utility in Mythic+ balance when it’s played just as much as Raid. HEY BLIZZARD!!! RAID ISN’T FURY WARRIORS ONLY GAME MODE!!
Warriors need a lust, call it Battle Cry - whatever. Warriors lead the way!
I feel like they are trying to have Fury straddle the line between a cleave build and a funnel build.
It’s just that we don’t get enough rage to truly funnel and we don’t do enough AoE damage to really cleave.
I think they just need to pick a lane.
Like I’d be fine if they made us funnel and just did something like “if your WW hits 5 targets your next rampage does 300% more damage on your primary target but no longer benefits from Meat Cleaver.”
@@James_Johnson79 We don't get enough rage? Are you playing a different game to everyone else? Rage is not the reason for our lackluster ST DPS, we generate plenty of rage.
@ we don’t.
A pure funnel spec would be able to go WW > Rampage > WW > Rampage and so on.
We don’t get enough rage from just using our WW to immediately drop our large damage spender.
BT and RB are fun buttons to hit and they’ve tried really hard to make them interesting, but at the end of the day Rampage remains king.
As it should.
@@James_Johnson79 ??? The main buttons of the fury as today are crushing blow and bloodbath, and every opener, even some times after reckleness expires, you just smashing the three buttons in order crushing blow > bloodbath > rampage. Rage is not an issue by any means
When an animation made by a fan looks 5x better than the animation the actual devs cooked up.
for real... thats exactly what warrior should feel like, a chunky hit, big smash, good yell.
Cool to see execute getting some love. Kinda pathetic how it was such a shit button to press that it needed a 50% buff to make it viable. Like u said I'd love to see more thane specific buffs to thunder blast. 8 cap on thunder blast just makes so much more sense. Also, that fan made animation looks SOOOOO much better its crazy.
omfg i can't agree more with you about the prototype of the warrior animation by the random dude on the forum... He is totally on point xD If i should just change something, it would be to give even more inertia to the move from the start, like a variation of the condemn animation. Imagine your character moving like he would do the mother of all fishing throw, taking the speed end strenght from the galaxy far behind himself, and then slamming as if he wanted to litteraly split the planet in two... but kind of slower as an animation, to give impact to the blow. Kind of if someone wanted to split a log, and end up hitting so hard that it splitted the log in 2 AND the block too. I really don't know if i am clear, english isn't my first language so... ^^'
However, when was the last 5 target fight (even in m+ it rarely happens)? Being the best at something that doesn't exist, makes you the best at nothing.
there are single packs of 5 mobs in m+ that warrior can shine, on the counter part in the same dungeon there are 15 mob packs that warrior will do 0 damage on so there is that
I'm expecting another 3 buffs for warrior before S2 releases. That way Blizzard can nerf warrior 18 times to compensate and keep warrior where they intended them to be.
where the arms buff at
For all the other fury warrior mains out there: OOH RAH!!!!
One thing I learned from playing this game: devs hate warriors.
Hi crit and thx for the video ! when you see the animation on barbarian on D3 u just can laugh from what it is on wow. Anyway see ya soon on your steam
Wish they’d just make AM baseline.
It’s just more fun and every warrior spec has access to it and enjoys the faster play that a shorter primary CD gives you.
I mean for god’s sake, we are living in a world of 30s wings. Which tends to be a much bigger and longer lasting CD than Recklessness.
Only thing that would make AM better is the removal of the CDR element and making it a 45sec baseline thing.
Don't get me wrong but when you have downtime it screws over the feel of it.
great buffs but damn does unbridled ferocity still blow
no single-minded fury rework/buff? i sleep
do you run NE warrior cause i like the looks or shadowmeld is actually good for m+? if so can you gimme examples on what you can use to cheese on s1 dgs for example? thank you so much for the content
But this buff improve ST dmg, blizz need to remove the target cap for aoe skills, if they do that, fury warrior will be a beast like early s1
Doubtful.
The only reason Fury was doing well in Season 1 is that the keys were so low that OF could burst things down.
It could never keep up scaling vs mob health as keys increased in levels.
Was fantastic for absolutely nuking adds in raid fights though.
Either way, even with removing the target cap our ST damage is so low that cleaving that onto 8 targets wouldn’t amount to as much as we’d like.
Especially in a world of passive AoE from almost every other melee class that’s doing full damage.
Fury warriors weren’t beasts in s1. They just did damage too quickly and nothing had over 1m health.
@@James_Johnson79 If they increased our cleave to 8 targets and kept all of the recent PTR buffs, we would definitely pump.
@@LongJohnnn compared to an Outlaw Rogue doing Blade Flurry? A Ret paladin and their passive AoE everything? An Unholy DK where if the pull lives for more than 30s they are doing 20k+ dps? A Frost DK with AoE passive damage? An Enhance Shaman with just lightning on everything all the time?
Yeah. Sorry, but Fury would still be scraping the bottom of the barrel. Twice the work for half the damage.
@ I'm not even going to bother continuing this convo. Almost every single one of your takes in the comments has been cooked. The only one that made sense was "the only reason Fury was doing well in Season 1 is that the keys were so low that OF could burst things down". What is your IO and average parse out of curiosity?
I think Meat Cleaver should cleave up to 7 targets now. With CDs not being as strong anymore and our main damage in rotational abilities, it feels like this is something they should do next.
I dont get why target cap is a thing, like a class without it (aka destro lock) deals the same or even more dmg in a 5 target scenario than fury or ww monk and when we get like 15 targets we know what happens
How about Blizzard makes whirlwind cleave to hit 8 targets for 30% of the dmg, increase the dmg of thunderclap/thunderblast. And until this day i do not understand why the hell would a big cooldown ability like thunderous roar would have a 5 target soft cap... while other classes have 8 soft cap on their basic rotation ? Only when those things change warriors will be viable for the current playstyle of the game.
P.S. Bring back the old Unbridled Ferocity !!!
The buffs are to compensate the lack of a real tier set, they have to redistribute the damage of each ability so no classes feel lackluster, this wont be 100%, but it's understandable
Same as assassination rogue on live
Legend, thanks bro.
isn't the main problem the abilities and how they interact with each other? like, sure, you can buff execute to the roof, but then other abilities fall behind. it is always a shift of priorities and what to press next. instead of 12 3 you now press 3 2 1. i would love to see ashen juggernaut getting more stacks and those stacks dont fall off when you are infight, so pressing execute is gain for the whole fight.
Tbh, onslaught always felt boring to me so im not too sad about it
I really wish they'd make onslaught a button that did something -- it feels good to press but it's just not viable in m+
So weird that fury cant top the meters as a non utility class, like atleast give us something in return.
If you open a group there is like 0 reason to inv a warrior, only if he has a huge m+ score and ilvl lead
Feels insane that you can just reroll to a meta class and do more damage while also having more Tools to play with
great video crit 2 thumbs up
Now meat cleaver 8 targets or 5 target soft cap and we MIGHT be competitive...
Bit odd they didnt also buff arms like this as well.
I am pretty sure warrior is being tuned by an intern or something. It just doesn’t make sense as someone that actually plays the game for the tuning to be so shit.
no dev plays the game
wtf Fury does unhealable damage AND 36% mortal strike, why are they buffing it even more ???
Those animations cement that I will not, be playing Arms and will stick to Fury.
fury dont need buffs arms does and arms needs a rework... and warrior class should get *War Cry* to be the same as Blood lust so warriors can have a good way to get invited to teams in M+ or raids... why you should take a warrior over a retri paladin or a unholy/frost DK? when warrior does nothing to help besides stuns?
warrior animations dont need new shits.... the warrior team workers need the new brains
You do realise that you would compete with evoker, shaman and mage on lust spot right? What are the odds you'd pick a war over those 3? I think lust on war would benefit prot more than anything else. Thats my 2 cents! Now i would love lust on war for sure xD but i don't believe it make any difference on raid spot nor getting inv to keys unfortunately.
I wish they turned Onslaught into an ability like the Barbarians "Double Swing" from Diablo but give it the Outlaw Blade Flurry treatment.
It does damage in AoE and the amount of targets it hits increases its damage with compensation if it hits only 1 target for ST
I am coping so hard they won’t revert those or slap a nerf on warriors on first raid week again 😊
They buff the fury for nerf him next so haaaaaard ...
maybe fury is going to be oke now... i hope so
They could remove onslaught entirely and I don't think any warrior player would be mad at all
Legit. It's just an annoying extra button to press.
@LongJohnnn and it's BORING. Lame generic animation
I like onslaught. I just wish it was more interactive/viable
Warbringer*
Good breakdown. Fury is def A tier DPS as of right now. If Blizzard EVER gave us more utility, we would be so fricken good and fun.
buffs are nice but just let us play 1 spec per season instead of having to farm 2 gearsets every fuckin content for different fights .... I prefer fury but I refuse to play arms without crit it just feels even worse and rng than it already is
i hope they eventually make it to where every spec for every class stacks the same fucking stats like all warrior specs use same stats all druid specs use same stats etc. i hate having more than 1 gear set just let us change out trinkets and weps and be golden
I dont think arms is dead after it's buffs. ARMS also isnt dead on high target caps.
more QQing IMO
dont be surprised if yall get nerfed lmao you might actually start cranking numbers now.
the Target cap does suck though, Elemental shaman has been dealing with that problem for years and blizzard for some reason refuses to do something about it if they wont fix ele, i dont see them fixing Fury for target cap
Execute doesn't need more buffs, it should be a low prio filler for fury IMO. BUT they should make an interaction that procced executes give you 3 stacks of slaughtering strikes, making the proc worth taking and feel good... Aside from that, execute should generate extra rage to take you towards rampage faster than the damage loss from BT/RB
A buff is a buff. I'll take it.
no no no, make execute great again. remember /watch?v=6hMqvb8QiUk
@ I couldnt agree more for arms warrior. Also I was 99.999% certain i knew what that link was before i even checked it haha how good. the glory days of arms warrior being perfect.
@@roflcopter31337 Hahah it was fun while it lasted but doing tank damage until execute phase was not the best. You could really feel it in m+ at the time. Execute definitely needs some love though.
Asian Johnny Sins, my hero!
It’s weird because you always take Onslaught in pvp because it’s buffed as fk in pvp scenarios.
Best warrior in the game, Worst transmog of all time
Just role play that you’re multiclassing into a hexblade warlock when you summon those extra weapons from the twisting nether as Arms. 👍🏻
ontop of the 28th buffs?? gyat
Yeep!
@@Critcake I can't seem to find these updates anywhere, mind giving us a link in the description?
@@mooonpawthey were unnanounced changes, so no blue post. Think it was picked up via datamining
@@Critcake ah k tyvm
the game went downhill after wrath ended.....