Hi, guys! This new video features a prominent clip from an interview with Dr. Satchin Panda. If you find this circadian rhythm stuff interesting, I suggest giving him a follow over on Twitter at twitter.com/satchinpanda (easily one of my favorite scientists to follow). He also has a great book out called The Circadian Code, which you can find at all major book suppliers. You should also consider watching both interviews with Dr. Panda found on this channel and on iTunes. If you're interested in helping us keep great content like this coming out, make sure to join our pay-what-you-can tribe of supporters for the low, low price of whatever you want to pitch in at foundmyfitness.com/crowdsponsor. Lots of new interviews are on the way! As usual, thank you for watching.
Hi Doc, I have this question regarding the chart provided in the video that shows the 3 different insulin spikes. The question is: Were the subjects fasting for the same length of time before the meal? Or was the only "fast-breaking" meal the breakfast? This alone could change the validity of the interpretation significantly.
@justin friebe ....do you have a routine sleep schedule? (same sleep/wake hours most days?) Ever test your blood sugars? Are you at a good body weight? Asking these questions to assess how your body may be handling sugars, or if you're eating more than your body needs. Suggestion: start where you are, then experiment. Stop everything except water 3-4 hrs before your sleep. Also make sure you follow the "Sleep Hygiene" principles to optimize the sleep you get. And as RP mentioned, have a span of 12hrs where you don't consume food or drink (but absolutely do drink water). So if you stop eating at 3pm, don't eat until 3am, but start where you are, and gradually increase this time as it feels comfortable (even increasing by 30 minutes each week until you get to 12hrs). You can do this every day. Yes, that would be interesting to learn how different sleep schedules affect us. I think there is some difference, but you can still do what you can to support the process.
Your speeches on Vitamin D probably added many years to my life. I am no longer vitamin D deficient and no longer get head aches or high blood pressure. Thank you!
I witnessed this in my own body while wearing a CGM. When I saw my glucose rise at night and remained high until nearly 4am, I realized how eating at night is not s good idea. This is a huge revelation to me.
@@MrKen59yea i can eat a peanut butter jelly sandwich right before bed and wake up 5 hours later and glucose is 140 I did this last night, ate the sandwich at 9pm woke up at 2:30am and checked glucose and it was 140
Rhonda, you're doing us all a great favor by translating academic literature for the layman who can't cannonball into the literature past the abstract. There are plenty of academics that do similar work, but you have the qualities of being passionate about your field and the understanding that the rest of us don't have all the background knowledge that your colleagues do. Keep it up, this is great. Some academics get offended when they are asked to explain in simpler, more accessible terms, but I'm glad you are doing it at least part time. It shows mastery of a subject
problem i find is most if not all studies directly look at the type 2 of diabetes which is normally just known for people weigh issues or how the intake food and nutrients, where as type 1 is far more critical and not within the same circumstances completely.
@@Dockhead I agree. Type 1 and Type 2 Diabetes are completely different diseases, and it is a shame that Type 2 Diabetes is even called Diabetes because of this confusion. Over the last decade there have been some attempts to change the label of this condition with "Syndrome X," "Metabolic Syndrome," and "Hyperinsulinemia," but if "Big Pharma" is advertising, that influences more people.
@@bidnow2946 its just type 2 can even be reversed in some cases maybe even all im not too sure, its that im type 1 myself and most doctors even in England now are referring to type 2 cases and sound like they dont know enough of type 1, maybe thats why we have specialist nurses/doctors for type 1 diabetes mostly. metabolic syndrome i think is a very fair name to be given for type 2 just to show that both arent given from the same outcome.
Great content Dr.! I usually eat my last meal around 8 p.m. and go to bed between 10-10:30 p.m. admittedly the lighter the meal, the better I sleep. Although, from time-to-time, I have been known to pound ice cream an hour before bed and feel amazing in the morning. So the "do things in moderation" suggestion heeds well here. Optimally...eating within an 8 hour period from 8 - 4 p.m. works amazingly well for accelerating "fat" loss.
As always, every time I listen to you, Dr. Patrick, I learn something new that is seldom if ever covered by people in the low carb/paleo space. I really appreciate these valuable videos. Thank you.
@@bsmith6784 You might be surprised as your body adjusts. I used to wake up hungry in the middle of the night, and there was no way I could skip breakfast or I would drag ass all morning. After trying intermittent fasting for 2-3 days, I found the early morning hunger was gone. Also, drink plenty of water. Sometimes your body craves food when you are dehydrated.
@@MB-up3mh I'm basically skin and bones, and always have been. No fasting for me. @Knuckle Head, I drink tons of water. Diet has gotten highly restricted though as I tend to eat the same three meals each day, plus a mix of snacks in-between.
Good point. A lot of late night calories are liquid ones aren't they? You can test your spike in blood sugar in response to different alcoholic drinks. I had never considered doing that at different times of the day before.
Don’t be fooled by this sorcery. It’s not going to make any difference in the big picture. What time of day you consume food or drink has no effect on your overall health. What matters is what and how much you put into your body.
You had a baby?! Great bounceback and love the knowledge packed video. I can share this to people who say I "starve myself" by not eating 12-16 hours a day or having 4-8 meals. I feel like no one knows how to eat, and the loudest people are the... largest.
This is so great! I started wearing a continuous blood glucose monitor just to see what mine ran. I try to eat keto and carnivore, and have no abnormal blood levels in my blood work, but I decided to check my glucose levels just to see what happens to me when I eat certain foods. I started taking melatonin at night and I noticed my fasting blood sugar levels went up dramatically. I found this video and now I know why. I am a case in point.
This is great, thank you, totally could have been written for me! I’m prediabetic, and it only happened since menopause. Low carb is helping, but my sleeping patterns are all over the place
Dear Dr. Rhonda Patrick, thank you so much for your continued, free education of the public. You‘re greatly contributing to a more healthy society. My quesition is: How can athletes who are responsible to train in the evening (say ~ 6pm to 8pm) take your advice while still fulfilling their nutritional needs post-workout? Your answer would be much appreciated. Thank you again.
From what I've read, athletes are unique. Both genetically and exertion/activity levels. Their lean muscle mass gives a tendency to be insulin sensitive and high metabolism.
You don't need as much insulin if you use up all the glucose you consume. So I would assume, post-workout meals should be light on carbohydrates (but you need some to replenish muscles).
Contracting muscle doesn't require insult either, GLUT transporters are inserted and allow glucose to diffuse down it's concentration gradient. All you need to do is go for a walk, and it should lower your blood glucose.
Wow I'm really impressed with how professional this has become. You always have such valuable information to share, but now it looks like you have way more resources for making the video as professional as possible. Amazing work, and thank you for working so hard to share the info with us all!
Weird how sayings such as "Breakfast like a king, Lunch like a Prince, dinner like a pauper" kind of come from an intuitive experience of past generations. They knew it was right to eat less the closer to sleep time.
@@MemoTraining It seems pretty clear, but I'm just saying that doing something from intuitive experience is not always a good thing but sometime it is. there is nothing weird in that.
Thank you for posting this! You just showed up in my feed for the first time and I do have type 2 diabetes and have been talking melatonin to help with sleep. I'll quit taking it today. Again thanks for the video!
You're awesome, Dr. Patrick. I have great faith in the information you put out there, and you and your podcast guests have a very large effect on my lifestyle decisions. My Beck depression checklist scores have come down steadily from 48 in early February, to 10's and 8's over the last week, and your micronutrient smoothie and Dr. Walker's information on the effects of sleep deficits (and how alcohol before bed can blunt REM sleep, which is needed for emotional regulation) have played a HUGE role in that. ... Had my first 70-degrees-for-10-minutes broccoli sprout shake yesterday too. ... You and the information you put out there have had a huge positive effect on my life. You rock!!! Thank you!!!
I just wanted to thank you Im studying nutritional therapy because of how interesting you've made this topic to me. Truly changed the trajectory of my life. So again thank you Dr Rhonda !
Amazing short and sweet explaination. I had to find Dr Panda's Book "the ricardia code" to understand that skipping breakfast and eating late in the night wasn't doing any favours to my intermittent fasting window. Thanks so much for this!
I'm happy to have found your channel and really look forward to delving into the helpful information. So my assessment fir myself, is from years of really high stress and not managing it well, and, developing sleep apnea, the high levels of cortisol I think helped to raise my blood sugar and create the situation that I have with high blood insulin and blood sugar and a fatty liver Etc. Alsi, been dealing with psoriatic arthritis fot about 7 yrs. I'm trying to deal with these issues through diet( and, no drinking alcohol) and supplementation, meditation, and regular light exercise, I would love to be able to do more but I just don't seem to have energy. I would like to understand more about why I still experience times when my blood sugar is feeling really low. I try to stay away from grains and starchy foods, but sometimes I feel like I need some carbs like sweet potato or butternut squash.
Thanks So much information from so many sources -minute by minute, day by day... Challenging Seemingly near a saturation point without demanding a context specific to the individual or further research by said individual Trends, new science, studies, podcasts, YT channels, journals...
Without a doubt my sleep stats improved a lot when I eat a light meal (& no desert) early 3-4 hours before sleep. Lower heart rate dip by 4-5 bpm, higher HRV by as much as 35 points, longer REM & deep sleep intervals. These numbers are even good if I only get 5-6 hours of sleep. Thank you Doc!
I believe this would make more sense to eat your final meal around 6 hours before bed especially if it is a larger meal. What this means is if you sleep at midnight you should eat a large meal at 6. My rationale is that your pancreas should be fully functioning at that point and you will need it to be for up to 3hrs following a large meal to regulate your blood glucose. If you eat that final meal at 6 and expect to be sleeping at 9 don’t be surprised if you have trouble sleeping because you ate a little too much too close to your melatonin production phase. I struggled with some insomnia recently and what seemed to help was eating larger meals 6hrs before bed. Also maintaining neutral calories for the day was important because if I was in a calorie deficit I would awake earlier than I intended and have less REM sleep. This means if you want to eat at 6 and sleep at 10 you should have a smaller dinner. Because dinner is a big part of your calories of the day this means you should have a larger breakfast and lunch than you may be comfortable with at first. But if you do struggle with insomnia and nothing seems to help, maybe this will help you as it helped me. Nothing is worse than being anxious because you’re in a calorie deficit at night but unable to sleep after eating because of a blood sugar crash or spike when you should be in bed. Do not try to spike yourself with food and sugar right before bed for the reasons stated in this video This also explains how my ex girlfriend who has type 1 diabetes would be able to sleep super easily even after eating late but I would be up restless for a few extra hours. Because she could inject her insulin she didn’t have to wake her pancreas up to do it’s job and so could sleep faster after meals.
I love watching enthusiasts.....as distinct from optimists... Rhonda is terrific...As a 36yr high school teacher, stuff like hers keeps me buzzy about my love of learning.. David. Melbourne ✌️
I don’t eat anything I didn’t hunt or grow myself, sometimes going weeks or months without eating due to my lack of hunter-gatherer skills. My insulin response is superb.
I watched this twice attempting to understand what was being said, and still couldn't get it. Then I realized I could just slow the playback speed and, bingo, clear as day! She always has tons of quality information but my brain can't hang with fast talkers! It's just too intense and i shut down. :( Yay for Dr. Patrick on 3/4 speed!
IF by not eating in the mornings feels like hell to me, so I keep giving up on it. I get a headache and fatigue and depression, which makes me bad at doing my job. So frustrating! I really wish I could stick with it.
Such a challenge for me to do this. My gym opens at 5am and closes at 10pm. I commute to work 30 mins away and arrive at 6am, get home at 3pm. I usually am able to get to the gym a little after 4pm, by the time I finish workout and sauna it's already around 7pm and post workout meals are important as far as I know, so this is definitely within the 3 hour window of my bed time. An ideal situation would be to find a 24 hour gym that also has a sauna so I can workout before work
So what is worse, the elevated glucose levels floating around or elevated insulin floating around in order to bring down higher glucose levels? Its difficult to get a straight answer on that these days.
I eat late because I train late in the evening/night. Funny enough, if I eat *after* training, even if it's super late (around 22h, right before going to bed) my blood glucose is fine in the morning if my night was good. But if I eat late without training then yes I see that my blood glucose is elevated in the morning. By noon, though, BG levels are always ok. Oh, I eat one meal a day at night and I always train fasted, and I am not obese (~ 10% or less body fat, and I train 5 days per week). So what you do before eating late matters, I think.
But the question that the study didn’t answer is “ what if the lunch or dinner were eaten as the first meal ? Or even as a post exercise first meal ?” Would the insulin sensitivity still reduced ?
aussie sam it did mention three identical meals. But are they taken within a same day ( in which case the lower insulin effect might be due to a “second and third meal” effect), or taken as a first meal at different days. This detail isn’t mentioned.
I thought it was pretty clear that the meals should be consumed in phase with the circadian cycle, which is in phase with daylight. This would seem to control the timing of the first meal, whatever you might call that meal. The exercise question is outside the scope of this discussion though.
Oh dear, like a bald person haggling over the price of a comb. You're now arguing just for the sake of trying to show you had a point. No worries, I'm just happy to have the information that WAS contained in the video, it just adds to the accumulative knowledge on the topic. The other points I can wait for.
Hi Doc, I have this question regarding the chart provided in the video that shows the 3 different insulin spikes. The question is: Were the subjects fasting for the same length of time before the meal? Or was the only "fast-breaking" meal the breakfast? This alone could change the validity of the interpretation significantly.
0:55 were all test subjects in a fasted state for an equal amount of time prior to ingestion? I can see how a 3rd meal insulin response is twice as high as a first meal response (out of a somewhat fasted state)
I'm almost certain I have a rare sleep disorder commonly referred to as "non-24". It basically means that my circadian cycle is not 24 hours, but in fact, about 25-26 hours. So my sleeping pattern creeps forward about an hour or two every single day. This has happened as far back as I can remember. Going to school was hell because I would be at war with my body, trying to live on a conventional 24-hour cycle when it wasn't natural to me. I vacillate between nocturnal and diurnal. I have been concerned for years with the effects it may have on my health. Is this harmful? My sleep quality is really good. I sleep around 7-9 hours most days. The problem is, when there are studies like this or anything talking about aligning things with a conventional circadian rhythm, I have no idea how to apply it to me. One thing that has always been present is my LUDICROUSLY slow metabolism as soon as puberty hit (which is also when my unconventional sleeping really became pronounced). I have to be incredibly stringent with how I eat. I'm 5'9, 24 years old, on a myriad of supplements, I fast 19 - 22 hours a day and I rarely ever exceed 1,500 calories a day, and even with all that, I still struggle with my weight. When I hear that someone of my age, gender and height can eat 2,200 calories a day, I want to laugh. That would be a fattening feast for me! I've had my insulin and thyroid tested and apparently it's absolutely fine, so I'm at a loss. I've never known anyone to gain weight as easily as I can. I can't relax with how I eat. If I do, I will pay the price and gain weight very very quickly. I feel like I virtually have to starve myself (which I am now doing for up to 22 hours a day) just to barely maintain my weight. My doctor sent me away with two book recommendations. One on avoiding fad dieting (I don't fad diet and never have) and how sugar is responsible for a lot of weight gain (I seldom eat sugar at all - I may put a little honey in a few things, but that's it. I also don't eat any refined carbohydrates.). Needless to say, the book recommendations were useless and not applicable to me at all. I wonder if all this has to do with my sleeping pattern.
I have been eating between 12-4 everyday, I workout in the morning about 16 hours into my fast 🥰 I love this way of eating, I feel awesome and my body composition is awesome
@@ebg3624 Awesome! Keep at it. I've tried before to implement IF but I found I don't perform as well at work (interpret medical imaging - diagnostic radiologist). Don't feel as sharp fasted. I eat 4-5 meals per day, and like you have an awesome body composition :) 9%bf by BodPod.. would love to get into IF for the possible longevity benefits if I could though.
I eat 2 meals, first one is larger and the second one is lighter, no snacks in between but I will usually have a protein shake along with the food. I’m aiming for under 19% BF which for a non fitness athlete woman should be good for summer abs 😂 only about 2% left to cut wish me luck
Rhonda, after watching your talks with Dr. Satchin Panda, Dr. Walter Longo, and Dr. Matthew Walker, I got confused about how long the TRE should be. If I'm not mistaken, Dr. Panda results show that 14 hours of fasting are better than 12 hours, but Dr. Longo doesn't recommend more than 12 hours of daily fasting, and Dr. Walker says that fasting can affect deep sleep. I saw other people also having this question. I'd appreciate if you help us to understand. Thank you very much for your great work.
Pretty interesting! Though as someone who has eliminated all processed sugar and carbs from the diet, my instinct is that my late night berries and nuts snack isn't going to ruin me.
Thanks Dr Rhonda Patrick, I have gained so much knowledge on health through your videos with Joe Rogan. I played them repeatedly until I understand what you are saying, because there are a ton of info.
Don't eat anything at least three hours before bedtime. That's the way my Dad used to do it, but unfortunately I never manage to keep to these kind of rules.
Hi, guys! This new video features a prominent clip from an interview with Dr. Satchin Panda. If you find this circadian rhythm stuff interesting, I suggest giving him a follow over on Twitter at twitter.com/satchinpanda (easily one of my favorite scientists to follow). He also has a great book out called The Circadian Code, which you can find at all major book suppliers. You should also consider watching both interviews with Dr. Panda found on this channel and on iTunes.
If you're interested in helping us keep great content like this coming out, make sure to join our pay-what-you-can tribe of supporters for the low, low price of whatever you want to pitch in at foundmyfitness.com/crowdsponsor. Lots of new interviews are on the way! As usual, thank you for watching.
Pregnant RP looks radiant!
@@magicdoggo4883 actually lean protein sparks your insulin.
Hi Doc, I have this question regarding the chart provided in the video that shows the 3 different insulin spikes.
The question is: Were the subjects fasting for the same length of time before the meal? Or was the only "fast-breaking" meal the breakfast? This alone could change the validity of the interpretation significantly.
Thanks, can you do a video on HCL?
@justin friebe ....do you have a routine sleep schedule? (same sleep/wake hours most days?) Ever test your blood sugars? Are you at a good body weight? Asking these questions to assess how your body may be handling sugars, or if you're eating more than your body needs.
Suggestion: start where you are, then experiment.
Stop everything except water 3-4 hrs before your sleep. Also make sure you follow the "Sleep Hygiene" principles to optimize the sleep you get.
And as RP mentioned, have a span of 12hrs where you don't consume food or drink (but absolutely do drink water). So if you stop eating at 3pm, don't eat until 3am, but start where you are, and gradually increase this time as it feels comfortable (even increasing by 30 minutes each week until you get to 12hrs). You can do this every day.
Yes, that would be interesting to learn how different sleep schedules affect us. I think there is some difference, but you can still do what you can to support the process.
Your speeches on Vitamin D probably added many years to my life. I am no longer vitamin D deficient and no longer get head aches or high blood pressure. Thank you!
Did you supplement? If so which?
Yeah, amazon owes her big time.. at least I started taking D3 and K2 because of her.
@@PaulSchneider-bp2ic What's strange in that?
@Paul Schneider208663531 I'm assuming because so many started to supplement which were purchased off of Amazon.
@@PaulSchneider-bp2ic You won't find high quality supplements in supermarkets.
please continue posting, very much valued
I witnessed this in my own body while wearing a CGM. When I saw my glucose rise at night and remained high until nearly 4am, I realized how eating at night is not s good idea. This is a huge revelation to me.
Around what time were you eating and what time did you go to bed?
@@no22sill 9-10pm and bed time is around 11. My understanding is your pancreas releases less insulin as melatonin increases.
@@MrKen59yea i can eat a peanut butter jelly sandwich right before bed and wake up 5 hours later and glucose is 140
I did this last night, ate the sandwich at 9pm woke up at 2:30am and checked glucose and it was 140
Rhonda, you're doing us all a great favor by translating academic literature for the layman who can't cannonball into the literature past the abstract. There are plenty of academics that do similar work, but you have the qualities of being passionate about your field and the understanding that the rest of us don't have all the background knowledge that your colleagues do. Keep it up, this is great. Some academics get offended when they are asked to explain in simpler, more accessible terms, but I'm glad you are doing it at least part time. It shows mastery of a subject
Joshua" +1
I really like this format and video length when presenting highly complex topics for the general public.
Same. This is really great for sharing with other people. Normal people don't want to watch hours long interviews.
Agreed. Short enough for sharing but detailed enough to wet the appetite for the long form discussions.
problem i find is most if not all studies directly look at the type 2 of diabetes which is normally just known for people weigh issues or how the intake food and nutrients, where as type 1 is far more critical and not within the same circumstances completely.
@@Dockhead I agree. Type 1 and Type 2 Diabetes are completely different diseases, and it is a shame that Type 2 Diabetes is even called Diabetes because of this confusion. Over the last decade there have been some attempts to change the label of this condition with "Syndrome X," "Metabolic Syndrome," and "Hyperinsulinemia," but if "Big Pharma" is advertising, that influences more people.
@@bidnow2946 its just type 2 can even be reversed in some cases maybe even all im not too sure, its that im type 1 myself and most doctors even in England now are referring to type 2 cases and sound like they dont know enough of type 1, maybe thats why we have specialist nurses/doctors for type 1 diabetes mostly.
metabolic syndrome i think is a very fair name to be given for type 2 just to show that both arent given from the same outcome.
I love how articulate and knowledgeable she is. I definitely have a crush and cannot get enough of Rhonda's lectures.
Great content Dr.! I usually eat my last meal around 8 p.m. and go to bed between 10-10:30 p.m. admittedly the lighter the meal, the better I sleep. Although, from time-to-time, I have been known to pound ice cream an hour before bed and feel amazing in the morning. So the "do things in moderation" suggestion heeds well here. Optimally...eating within an 8 hour period from 8 - 4 p.m. works amazingly well for accelerating "fat" loss.
As always, every time I listen to you, Dr. Patrick, I learn something new that is seldom if ever covered by people in the low carb/paleo space. I really appreciate these valuable videos. Thank you.
That guy is melatonin, he put me straight to sleep.
He's great, but I can't help laugh every time she refers to "Dr. Panda" with a straight face.
What is the melody!
@@CommandoMaster Here you can hear Panda singing a nice melody:
ua-cam.com/video/OQnNH7I07RY/v-deo.html
Haha
Your mom is melatonin...
You're fierce Dr. Rhonda, thank you. This really hit home, because night eating is an ongoing problem for me.
TL;DR: Don't eat anything 3 hours before you go to bed.
I would starve.
No, but really though. If I don't eat fairly soon before bed, I wake up in the middle of the night with my stomach growling.
@@bsmith6784 You might be surprised as your body adjusts. I used to wake up hungry in the middle of the night, and there was no way I could skip breakfast or I would drag ass all morning. After trying intermittent fasting for 2-3 days, I found the early morning hunger was gone. Also, drink plenty of water. Sometimes your body craves food when you are dehydrated.
@@bsmith6784 I never thought I'd say this sentence, but I agree with Knuckle Head! :)
@@bsmith6784 Dude you're a food addict, try some fasting
@@MB-up3mh I'm basically skin and bones, and always have been.
No fasting for me.
@Knuckle Head, I drink tons of water. Diet has gotten highly restricted though as I tend to eat the same three meals each day, plus a mix of snacks in-between.
Rhonda you are strong, smart and feminine woman. World needs more woman like you. Salute from Serbia!
Svuda smo 😁
Great now I have to start drinking wine Saturday mornings instead of Friday night!!
more time to enjoy it!
Good point. A lot of late night calories are liquid ones aren't they? You can test your spike in blood sugar in response to different alcoholic drinks. I had never considered doing that at different times of the day before.
Don’t be fooled by this sorcery. It’s not going to make any difference in the big picture. What time of day you consume food or drink has no effect on your overall health. What matters is what and how much you put into your body.
hahahaha I literally started day drinking after this video..lost 12 pounds no joke..didnt chnge a thing except when I drink.
You also should avoid at least 2 hours after waking up.
You had a baby?! Great bounceback and love the knowledge packed video. I can share this to people who say I "starve myself" by not eating 12-16 hours a day or having 4-8 meals. I feel like no one knows how to eat, and the loudest people are the... largest.
These bite-sized summaries are excellent. I imagine you will get 4-5 from each interview. Very helpful when time is limited. Thanks Doc!
This is so great! I started wearing a continuous blood glucose monitor just to see what mine ran. I try to eat keto and carnivore, and have no abnormal blood levels in my blood work, but I decided to check my glucose levels just to see what happens to me when I eat certain foods. I started taking melatonin at night and I noticed my fasting blood sugar levels went up dramatically. I found this video and now I know why. I am a case in point.
Cannot possibly have enough RP content
This is great, thank you, totally could have been written for me! I’m prediabetic, and it only happened since menopause. Low carb is helping, but my sleeping patterns are all over the place
Dear Dr. Rhonda Patrick, thank you so much for your continued, free education of the public. You‘re greatly contributing to a more healthy society. My quesition is: How can athletes who are responsible to train in the evening (say ~ 6pm to 8pm) take your advice while still fulfilling their nutritional needs post-workout?
Your answer would be much appreciated. Thank you again.
From what I've read, athletes are unique. Both genetically and exertion/activity levels. Their lean muscle mass gives a tendency to be insulin sensitive and high metabolism.
Otis Hein try a teaspoon of vinegar, it makes cells take up glucose.
You don't need as much insulin if you use up all the glucose you consume. So I would assume, post-workout meals should be light on carbohydrates (but you need some to replenish muscles).
Contracting muscle doesn't require insult either, GLUT transporters are inserted and allow glucose to diffuse down it's concentration gradient. All you need to do is go for a walk, and it should lower your blood glucose.
It is so cute how you are holding your baby!
Wow I'm really impressed with how professional this has become. You always have such valuable information to share, but now it looks like you have way more resources for making the video as professional as possible. Amazing work, and thank you for working so hard to share the info with us all!
Weird how sayings such as "Breakfast like a king, Lunch like a Prince, dinner like a pauper" kind of come from an intuitive experience of past generations. They knew it was right to eat less the closer to sleep time.
What's weird? you understand that a lot of intuitive experiences of past generation are debunk right? But yeah, some are true...
@@Tomy-im8zl Wtf are you talking about sonny boy?
@@MemoTraining It seems pretty clear, but I'm just saying that doing something from intuitive experience is not always a good thing but sometime it is. there is nothing weird in that.
Rhonda!! You look as young here as the same ones done 5+ years ago. Your anti-aging plan is working
She's getting younger, not just not aging.
100Strong Training what is her anti aging plan?
wouldnt say younger, i would say she looks better, something about an untangible glow that some people get when they go this way
She a had a real beer gut in that interview, but now it's gone! Her diet works!
Shes hot.
Exactly the information I was searching for. Thank you.
Great vid Dr. Patrick. First time hearing of melatonin insulin link. Thanks so much.
Thank you for posting this! You just showed up in my feed for the first time and I do have type 2 diabetes and have been talking melatonin to help with sleep. I'll quit taking it today. Again thanks for the video!
Oh wow so its bad to take if you have diabetes?
You're awesome, Dr. Patrick. I have great faith in the information you put out there, and you and your podcast guests have a very large effect on my lifestyle decisions. My Beck depression checklist scores have come down steadily from 48 in early February, to 10's and 8's over the last week, and your micronutrient smoothie and Dr. Walker's information on the effects of sleep deficits (and how alcohol before bed can blunt REM sleep, which is needed for emotional regulation) have played a HUGE role in that. ... Had my first 70-degrees-for-10-minutes broccoli sprout shake yesterday too. ... You and the information you put out there have had a huge positive effect on my life. You rock!!! Thank you!!!
Awesome as always Dr. Patrick. Thank you.
I just wanted to thank you Im studying nutritional therapy because of how interesting you've made this topic to me. Truly changed the trajectory of my life. So again thank you Dr Rhonda !
Listening to your wonderful videos at 0.75X speed reduces cortisol and increases serotonin in my blood. FYI @FoundMyFitness
Great video Rhonda!! Keep them coming.
This video was so fire thank you for this Doc
Amazing short and sweet explaination. I had to find Dr Panda's Book "the ricardia code" to understand that skipping breakfast and eating late in the night wasn't doing any favours to my intermittent fasting window. Thanks so much for this!
"The Ricardia Code" ?
Love these short videos.
I always hit the 'like' button whenever I open one of her vids.Always useful info.
I'm happy to have found your channel and really look forward to delving into the helpful information. So my assessment fir myself, is from years of really high stress and not managing it well, and, developing sleep apnea, the high levels of cortisol I think helped to raise my blood sugar and create the situation that I have with high blood insulin and blood sugar and a fatty liver Etc. Alsi, been dealing with psoriatic arthritis fot about 7 yrs. I'm trying to deal with these issues through diet( and, no drinking alcohol) and supplementation, meditation, and regular light exercise, I would love to be able to do more but I just don't seem to have energy. I would like to understand more about why I still experience times when my blood sugar is feeling really low. I try to stay away from grains and starchy foods, but sometimes I feel like I need some carbs like sweet potato or butternut squash.
Thanks Rhonda, your efforts are very much appreciated. much love to you and your family. 😊
Thanks
So much information from so many sources -minute by minute, day by day...
Challenging
Seemingly near a saturation point without demanding a context specific to the individual or further research by said individual
Trends, new science, studies, podcasts, YT channels, journals...
More like these... this is great stuff. And provides evidence I can pass along for those still trying to figure thinks out.
Without a doubt my sleep stats improved a lot when I eat a light meal (& no desert) early 3-4 hours before sleep. Lower heart rate dip by 4-5 bpm, higher HRV by as much as 35 points, longer REM & deep sleep intervals. These numbers are even good if I only get 5-6 hours of sleep. Thank you Doc!
This is exactly what I needed to hear. Really informative. Thanks for posting.
Love your videos!!!! I've been binging your content for hours 👀
Hello Dr Ronda, great video with substance to the point !
Please continue posting
Congratulations
Dr. rhonda you rock ! ty for releasing awesome content.
Dr Rhonda! You look sooooooo glowing and helathy and young! Do you do paleo and IF? Any particular secrets, please make a video on you daily meals
Some of the best and most informative health and fitness videos available. Oh, and pregnant looks beautiful on you.
That's such a weird thing to say. xD
Weird.
Not weird.
Weird and pervpilled.
awesome video.
this information can reduce, prevent, and reverse many conditions.
well done !!!
Dr. Rhonda I really value your thoughts, thank you!
I believe this would make more sense to eat your final meal around 6 hours before bed especially if it is a larger meal. What this means is if you sleep at midnight you should eat a large meal at 6. My rationale is that your pancreas should be fully functioning at that point and you will need it to be for up to 3hrs following a large meal to regulate your blood glucose. If you eat that final meal at 6 and expect to be sleeping at 9 don’t be surprised if you have trouble sleeping because you ate a little too much too close to your melatonin production phase.
I struggled with some insomnia recently and what seemed to help was eating larger meals 6hrs before bed. Also maintaining neutral calories for the day was important because if I was in a calorie deficit I would awake earlier than I intended and have less REM sleep. This means if you want to eat at 6 and sleep at 10 you should have a smaller dinner. Because dinner is a big part of your calories of the day this means you should have a larger breakfast and lunch than you may be comfortable with at first. But if you do struggle with insomnia and nothing seems to help, maybe this will help you as it helped me. Nothing is worse than being anxious because you’re in a calorie deficit at night but unable to sleep after eating because of a blood sugar crash or spike when you should be in bed. Do not try to spike yourself with food and sugar right before bed for the reasons stated in this video
This also explains how my ex girlfriend who has type 1 diabetes would be able to sleep super easily even after eating late but I would be up restless for a few extra hours. Because she could inject her insulin she didn’t have to wake her pancreas up to do it’s job and so could sleep faster after meals.
Thank you for what you do, it is greatly appreciated!
I love this woman....
Keep them coming, you're the best!
But, what about in older people when melatonin production is said to decline? Is there then the concern with melatonin supplementation?
I'd be interested in a pregnancy related video! Nutrition wise. Love all you do!
Rhonda, I appreciate all the very useful and relevant information you share with us, but I wonder in this case if you looked at all of the studies of melatonin affecting blood sugar. There are quite a few studies showing improved insulin sensitivity, reduced blood sugar, and other improvements in other metabolic parameters. An exampel is found here, but I have seen others as well:
Introduction: The use of second-generation atypical antipsychotics has an increasing role in the development of metabolic syndrome. However, these medications due to metabolic disorders can lead to an increased risk of cardiovascular disease and subsequently mortality as well as reduced adherence to treatment. The main objective of current study was to determine the ability of melatonin to reduce the metabolic effects of second-generation antipsychotics.
Methods: This double blind controlled clinical trial was conducted on 100 patients aged 18-64 years old were treated with the second-generation antipsychotics for the first time. The patients were divided randomly into two groups of 50. The case group received slow-release melatonin at a dose of 3mg and the control group was given oral placebo at 8 p.m.
Results: The findings in melatonin group indicated significantly increase of HDL and decreased fasting blood sugar and systolic blood pressure, as well as had statistically significant increase in waist circumference, weight and BMI compared with placebo group.
Conclusion: According to the findings, it can be claimed that the addition of melatonin to atypical antipsychotics has led to a reduction in some of the metabolic effects of these drugs. In this study, HDL level was increased, and the mean systolic blood pressure and FBS were decreased in the melatonin group. Considering that these factors are contributing to cardiovascular disease as a leading cause of mortality in psychiatric patients, so the use of melatonin can reduce some of the medical effects of long-term treatment of atypical antipsychotics.
Keywords: Melatonin; Metabolic disorders; Second-generation antipsychotic drugs.
Copyright © 2017 Diabetes India. Published by Elsevier Ltd. All rights reserved.
Randomized Controlled Trial Diabetes Metab Syndr
. Jan-Mar 2018;12(1):9-15. doi: 10.1016/j.dsx.2017.08.004. Epub 2017 Aug 18.
Effect of melatonin in reducing second-generation antipsychotic metabolic effects: A double blind controlled clinical trial
Mansour Agahi 1, Negar Akasheh 1, Afshin Ahmadvand 1, Hossein Akbari 2, Fatemeh Izadpanah 3
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PMID: 28847468 DOI: 10.1016/j.dsx.2017.08.004
Congrats sweet Rhonda! :) So glad to see your post again!
Your interview on rogan show was awesome!
I'd like to see the strength of the evidence for this and the magnitude of the effect.
I love your videos and the content, it’s s applicable, healthy and interesting! Thanks Dr RP!!
cool scene of Dr. Patrick holding her baby-bump in that talk with Dr. Panda (:
Great to know. Always exploring what is best to ingest, and now it's time to explore when... Thank you, Dr. Rhonda.
I love watching enthusiasts.....as distinct from optimists... Rhonda is terrific...As a 36yr high school teacher, stuff like hers keeps me buzzy about my love of learning.. David. Melbourne ✌️
Very valuable post and looking forward to the next one!
I eat one meal a day and go to sleep exactly an hour after I eat my one meal in the evening, and my insulin response is as good as it gets.
I don’t eat anything I didn’t hunt or grow myself, sometimes going weeks or months without eating due to my lack of hunter-gatherer skills. My insulin response is superb.
She is amazing along with Dr.Berg and co.These guys have helped me so much.God bless.
Love this channel and presenter!! Thanks, Dr. Patrick...
I watched this twice attempting to understand what was being said, and still couldn't get it. Then I realized I could just slow the playback speed and, bingo, clear as day! She always has tons of quality information but my brain can't hang with fast talkers! It's just too intense and i shut down. :( Yay for Dr. Patrick on 3/4 speed!
Congatulations! Thx for helping me design recipes as well as make myself and others healthier!!
IF by not eating in the mornings feels like hell to me, so I keep giving up on it. I get a headache and fatigue and depression, which makes me bad at doing my job. So frustrating! I really wish I could stick with it.
It took me about 2 months to get used to it.
Such a challenge for me to do this. My gym opens at 5am and closes at 10pm. I commute to work 30 mins away and arrive at 6am, get home at 3pm. I usually am able to get to the gym a little after 4pm, by the time I finish workout and sauna it's already around 7pm and post workout meals are important as far as I know, so this is definitely within the 3 hour window of my bed time. An ideal situation would be to find a 24 hour gym that also has a sauna so I can workout before work
So what is worse, the elevated glucose levels floating around or elevated insulin floating around in order to bring down higher glucose levels? Its difficult to get a straight answer on that these days.
I eat late because I train late in the evening/night. Funny enough, if I eat *after* training, even if it's super late (around 22h, right before going to bed) my blood glucose is fine in the morning if my night was good. But if I eat late without training then yes I see that my blood glucose is elevated in the morning. By noon, though, BG levels are always ok. Oh, I eat one meal a day at night and I always train fasted, and I am not obese (~ 10% or less body fat, and I train 5 days per week). So what you do before eating late matters, I think.
Thank you for this life saving information. Godbless.
THANK YOU RHONDA💛⭐ FOR SHARING YOUR KNOWLEDGE 💗
But the question that the study didn’t answer is “ what if the lunch or dinner were eaten as the first meal ? Or even as a post exercise first meal ?”
Would the insulin sensitivity still reduced ?
Yes it did.
aussie sam it did mention three identical meals. But are they taken within a same day ( in which case the lower insulin effect might be due to a “second and third meal” effect), or taken as a first meal at different days. This detail isn’t mentioned.
I thought it was pretty clear that the meals should be consumed in phase with the circadian cycle, which is in phase with daylight. This would seem to control the timing of the first meal, whatever you might call that meal. The exercise question is outside the scope of this discussion though.
Still need confirmation from a study whether or not a morning first meal is better than a midday first meal. Suppositions and science are not friends.
Oh dear, like a bald person haggling over the price of a comb. You're now arguing just for the sake of trying to show you had a point. No worries, I'm just happy to have the information that WAS contained in the video, it just adds to the accumulative knowledge on the topic. The other points I can wait for.
At 0:54, how should I read this, as the spikes are almost the same on the vertical axis!?
These videos are so informative. Cant wait to see more!!
Best wishes to your family!
Hi Doc, I have this question regarding the chart provided in the video that shows the 3 different insulin spikes.
The question is: Were the subjects fasting for the same length of time before the meal? Or was the only "fast-breaking" meal the breakfast? This alone could change the validity of the interpretation significantly.
4:38 I felt personally attacked as I was learning cool info while sipping my glass of wine lol. Great stuff!
The more I think about optimizing my sleep the more stressed out I get = less sleep 🤷
I sleep like shit and lately have been doing cardio, Yoga and weight training. I sleep sooooooo much better.
@@TheMancYank hell yeah.
I've begun doing intense 20min sessions about 30min after getting up and I sleep a lot better as well.
Keep up the good work
@@Chxzz1 Awesome!!! You too. I take some stuff called Stress Magnesium which helps right before bed. Well done.
My brain and body thank you for the new information! I will try my best to implement this into my life
0:55 were all test subjects in a fasted state for an equal amount of time prior to ingestion?
I can see how a 3rd meal insulin response is twice as high as a first meal response (out of a somewhat fasted state)
I'm almost certain I have a rare sleep disorder commonly referred to as "non-24". It basically means that my circadian cycle is not 24 hours, but in fact, about 25-26 hours. So my sleeping pattern creeps forward about an hour or two every single day. This has happened as far back as I can remember. Going to school was hell because I would be at war with my body, trying to live on a conventional 24-hour cycle when it wasn't natural to me. I vacillate between nocturnal and diurnal.
I have been concerned for years with the effects it may have on my health. Is this harmful? My sleep quality is really good. I sleep around 7-9 hours most days.
The problem is, when there are studies like this or anything talking about aligning things with a conventional circadian rhythm, I have no idea how to apply it to me.
One thing that has always been present is my LUDICROUSLY slow metabolism as soon as puberty hit (which is also when my unconventional sleeping really became pronounced). I have to be incredibly stringent with how I eat. I'm 5'9, 24 years old, on a myriad of supplements, I fast 19 - 22 hours a day and I rarely ever exceed 1,500 calories a day, and even with all that, I still struggle with my weight. When I hear that someone of my age, gender and height can eat 2,200 calories a day, I want to laugh. That would be a fattening feast for me!
I've had my insulin and thyroid tested and apparently it's absolutely fine, so I'm at a loss. I've never known anyone to gain weight as easily as I can. I can't relax with how I eat. If I do, I will pay the price and gain weight very very quickly. I feel like I virtually have to starve myself (which I am now doing for up to 22 hours a day) just to barely maintain my weight.
My doctor sent me away with two book recommendations. One on avoiding fad dieting (I don't fad diet and never have) and how sugar is responsible for a lot of weight gain (I seldom eat sugar at all - I may put a little honey in a few things, but that's it. I also don't eat any refined carbohydrates.). Needless to say, the book recommendations were useless and not applicable to me at all.
I wonder if all this has to do with my sleeping pattern.
@@leelunk8235 - Hi, Lee. I'm open to any suggestions. :)
Linoleic acid is causing a big chunk of your problems. get rid of it and up the SFA. - meat based KD sprinter
Not sure if you will get on an old clip but could do positive information on shift workers as our time to eat and sleep is all out .
what about whole food plant based lifestyle? great work!
I have been eating between 12-4 everyday, I workout in the morning about 16 hours into my fast 🥰 I love this way of eating, I feel awesome and my body composition is awesome
What kind of workout?
I do 30mins cardio, running or rowing and then about an hour of resistance training 😀🏋️♀️
how many meals do you have in that four hours?
@@ebg3624 Awesome! Keep at it. I've tried before to implement IF but I found I don't perform as well at work (interpret medical imaging - diagnostic radiologist). Don't feel as sharp fasted. I eat 4-5 meals per day, and like you have an awesome body composition :) 9%bf by BodPod.. would love to get into IF for the possible longevity benefits if I could though.
I eat 2 meals, first one is larger and the second one is lighter, no snacks in between but I will usually have a protein shake along with the food. I’m aiming for under 19% BF which for a non fitness athlete woman should be good for summer abs 😂 only about 2% left to cut wish me luck
Rhonda, after watching your talks with Dr. Satchin Panda, Dr. Walter Longo, and Dr. Matthew Walker, I got confused about how long the TRE should be. If I'm not mistaken, Dr. Panda results show that 14 hours of fasting are better than 12 hours, but Dr. Longo doesn't recommend more than 12 hours of daily fasting, and Dr. Walker says that fasting can affect deep sleep. I saw other people also having this question. I'd appreciate if you help us to understand. Thank you very much for your great work.
Informative as always, you rule Dr Patrick
Pretty interesting! Though as someone who has eliminated all processed sugar and carbs from the diet, my instinct is that my late night berries and nuts snack isn't going to ruin me.
Thanks Dr Rhonda Patrick, I have gained so much knowledge on health through your videos with Joe Rogan. I played them repeatedly until I understand what you are saying, because there are a ton of info.
Rhonda ! Missed you, thanks for the informative posting, as always
Thanks. I've altered my eating patterns based on this, and it fits in well with intermittent fasting...
Rhonda's bounceback speaks for itself.
But yes I agree with the last intuive conclusion absolutely glucose levels are key to brain health , keep it up
Don't eat anything at least three hours before bedtime. That's the way my Dad used to do it, but unfortunately I never manage to keep to these kind of rules.
I love your videos. You're so helpful.
Thank you for making this video!
Very very good information. Thank you