Orange Juice VS Nickatnyte | Clash Royale King’s Cup 2017 - $200,000 Clash Royale Tournament - Day 2

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  • @ShwibiTech
    @ShwibiTech 6 років тому +6819

    The 8th Card was...
    *O R A N G E J U I C E*

  • @balintcsiszer6448
    @balintcsiszer6448 7 років тому +3891

    Oj's nightmare:NEGATIVE ELIXIR TRADE!

  • @darukan
    @darukan 6 років тому +2804

    "Uh oh, The Wifi symbol of death." Lmfao. So true, If you see that mid match you might as well quit and take the L.

    • @Saigonas
      @Saigonas 5 років тому +18

      @@mrpurse2821 trash servers

    • @swoxazr4620
      @swoxazr4620 4 роки тому +5

      @@Saigonas nah its a glitch happens to me Al the time

    • @HF-fx6fx
      @HF-fx6fx 4 роки тому +2

      #thebestwaytodealwithlag

    • @KaptenAus
      @KaptenAus 4 роки тому +1

      its spectator lag not player

    • @simunmatovina8341
      @simunmatovina8341 4 роки тому

      He said that as i was reading this comment

  • @ferrewoltjer6711
    @ferrewoltjer6711 5 років тому +3566

    I like How OJ in the last match was like: “Welp i lost... OH WAIT I HAVE POISON

    • @opticalorange2316
      @opticalorange2316 4 роки тому +121

      I think he was celebrating then he realized the mega minion was there

    • @denzelyp3878
      @denzelyp3878 3 роки тому +22

      @@opticalorange2316 nah

    • @opticalorange2316
      @opticalorange2316 3 роки тому +3

      Ok

    • @bhardwaaj4843
      @bhardwaaj4843 3 роки тому +36

      He was celebrating then mega minion got rage thats why he got scared

    • @wilderty3802
      @wilderty3802 3 роки тому

      you probably dont care at all but does anybody know a way to log back into an Instagram account..?
      I was stupid lost the login password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me!

  • @anirecorder2555
    @anirecorder2555 Рік тому +248

    Don't mind me I'm just taking a look on what Nick looked like back in 2017
    Man this hits different

    • @DefinitelyNotSenku
      @DefinitelyNotSenku Рік тому +6

      today I came to check his channel (as I missed the content i used to watch back in my childhood) and the feeling is just so weird ...

    • @lllIIIIIlIlIIllll
      @lllIIIIIlIlIIllll 8 місяців тому +8

      He’s gone

    • @zark175
      @zark175 6 місяців тому

      Same here

  • @Razz_yt
    @Razz_yt 5 років тому +1314

    9:26 I love how Oj just casual puts his hands up thinking he lost and then just as casually returns to the game when he realizes its sudden death

    • @sungminchoi8823
      @sungminchoi8823 4 роки тому +82

      It's not when it's sudden death it's when he realizes he has poison

    • @dhruv6743
      @dhruv6743 4 роки тому +21

      I like oj beacuse he just not penic is whole match and that will make oj win 😁

    • @moonlightlk2857
      @moonlightlk2857 3 роки тому +11

      @@sungminchoi8823 No he thought he had lost because of the lumber jack was going to make it, but then he realized that it didn't, so

    • @bigchungus4125
      @bigchungus4125 3 роки тому +3

      @@moonlightlk2857 No. Look at the video again. He puts his hand up as soon as the lumber Jack died. It's because be had poison in rotation.

    • @moonlightlk2857
      @moonlightlk2857 3 роки тому +2

      @@bigchungus4125 No, look again, his face expression was a disappointed one, he also did a whatever with his arms, meaning he had thought he lost, but when he saw the lumber jack was dead he was surprised that he didn't die. Also he has already thought of using poison to get the tower first but poison takes like 1 second before it actually starts doing damage, and that definitely slower then a LUMBER JACK.

  • @C4dile
    @C4dile 6 років тому +4243

    The eighth card of orange juice still remains a mystery

  • @PegasusSZN
    @PegasusSZN Рік тому +306

    2:14 boy oh boy he predicted it

  • @apolatyne_decova
    @apolatyne_decova 4 роки тому +202

    9:25
    Nick: "Yes, I'm about to win!"
    OJ: "I accidentally dropped my poison right there"

  • @jtsensei6063
    @jtsensei6063 5 років тому +553

    *Legends say that they still don’t know that last card in OJ’s deck*

    • @ajsirianni2555
      @ajsirianni2555 5 років тому +26

      JTsensei don’t wanna ruin the joke but it’s a zap he used it in a match

    • @najwankhbees2122
      @najwankhbees2122 5 років тому +17

      @@ajsirianni2555 he means in the third match dummy

    • @huseyindemirci9113
      @huseyindemirci9113 4 роки тому +13

      MAFIA E30 He knew it was third macth, he saw that in other matches of the tournament when OJ was using the same deck. You real DUMMY.

    • @hair680
      @hair680 4 роки тому

      @@huseyindemirci9113 OJ didn't

    • @jayden.02
      @jayden.02 4 роки тому +2

      @@huseyindemirci9113 no he didn’t dummy

  • @jlyonared
    @jlyonared 7 років тому +3833

    “Two of the only females in the game both in his deck.” Uhh there are archers, musketeers, witches, night witches, bandits. Lmfao what was he saying

    • @dansattah
      @dansattah 6 років тому +40

      jlyonared Same

    • @abaddon3735
      @abaddon3735 6 років тому +465

      They seem to know nothing about the game their shoutcasting

    • @KadijaLimerick
      @KadijaLimerick 6 років тому +374

      I think they mean female machines

    • @therandomchicken6517
      @therandomchicken6517 6 років тому +193

      Kadija Limerick How are they female if they’re machines...

    • @KadijaLimerick
      @KadijaLimerick 6 років тому +240

      The Random Chicken They just use female pronouns, you can check their descriptions in the game

  • @pizzaplzz3507
    @pizzaplzz3507 7 років тому +3514

    Positive elixir trade

    • @Pante727
      @Pante727 7 років тому +3

      MyNameIsDora eisai mia kavla❤

    • @samayiqbal2719
      @samayiqbal2719 6 років тому +3

      MyNameIsDora sure

    • @erikarodriguez1773
      @erikarodriguez1773 6 років тому +4

      Dododododo Dora!

    • @MinaT
      @MinaT 6 років тому +5

      aɢʀɛsɨʋɛ ɛʟɨxɨʀ tʀaɖɛ

    • @combatraptor4592
      @combatraptor4592 6 років тому +3

      Dora! Yup that's what that is. I'm glad Dora knows how to play CR

  • @facefish1713
    @facefish1713 6 років тому +508

    3:46 sad Story

  • @tristanlassche3560
    @tristanlassche3560 5 років тому +663

    A pOOO0oO0oO0o0ositive elixer trade
    -orange juice 2019

    • @imnotplayer4135
      @imnotplayer4135 5 років тому

      yup

    • @RNM05
      @RNM05 5 років тому +7

      Zero loses :D

    • @Bjorne_
      @Bjorne_ 5 років тому +1

      Doge Pro you mean deaths right?

    • @RNM05
      @RNM05 5 років тому

      @@Bjorne_ no

    • @Bjorne_
      @Bjorne_ 5 років тому

      Doge Pro but his merch says ”zero deaths”

  • @tgnm9615
    @tgnm9615 10 місяців тому +16

    Rip NickAtNyte channel. We will miss your videos as part of our childhood

    • @spicerow
      @spicerow 6 місяців тому +2

      He is now a transgender into a woman and he does onlyfans
      checking his twitter was a bad idea… i have NIGHTMARES

  • @kimjongun365
    @kimjongun365 7 років тому +3002

    Oj looking like me

  • @lordfejixo9069
    @lordfejixo9069 5 років тому +157

    7:38 commentator goes full rapper mode

  • @greongel
    @greongel Рік тому +36

    2:13 well, he surely is a ladies man now.

  • @luisesparza181
    @luisesparza181 5 років тому +771

    1:49 OJ’s face had me laughing

  • @jhulianvonabarquezorcajada606
    @jhulianvonabarquezorcajada606 3 роки тому +36

    This was 4 years ago, and it’s still exciting to watch! Imagine future games with new strategies

  • @dame9187
    @dame9187 4 роки тому +59

    “I know the krabby patty formula”
    *”Idc”*
    “I know orange juice’s last card”
    *”what is it please tell me”*

  • @tcw6148
    @tcw6148 7 років тому +893

    5:11 Eminem

    • @bleyd__
      @bleyd__ 7 років тому +6

      ?

    • @liveandlearn4445
      @liveandlearn4445 7 років тому +39

      BleyD you don't know Who eminem is?

    • @bleyd__
      @bleyd__ 7 років тому +4

      Quincy V.kempen I know lol

    • @bleyd__
      @bleyd__ 7 років тому +3

      Quincy V.kempen why do u ask

    • @liveandlearn4445
      @liveandlearn4445 7 років тому +25

      BleyD oh because you posted a question mark.

  • @isucknewton3878
    @isucknewton3878 5 років тому +53

    4:30
    bandit: "a beautiful dashing lady"

  • @aquapointbeshoy2736
    @aquapointbeshoy2736 5 років тому +75

    3:22 that guy got left hanging live

  • @abeastgaming9600
    @abeastgaming9600 5 років тому +495

    Hey, Wanna Hear a Joke,
    *Positive Elixir Trade*

    • @gnome2812
      @gnome2812 5 років тому

      Hahaha.....

    • @enricovidovic4251
      @enricovidovic4251 5 років тому +8

      I dont get it.........
      Ooooooh hahahahaha

    • @ibrahi8708
      @ibrahi8708 4 роки тому +6

      *THE POWER OF GEOMETRY*

    • @mcgee.philip
      @mcgee.philip 4 роки тому

      @@enricovidovic4251 Then you migth as well lose

    • @abubakr7767
      @abubakr7767 4 роки тому +4

      Hey wait, let me say a joke too
      A joke too.

  • @calebnolan586
    @calebnolan586 4 роки тому +220

    “Pekka and sparky bring the only female cards in the game”
    Musketeer: *Am I a joke to you?*

    • @MadanMohan-oy1rv
      @MadanMohan-oy1rv 3 роки тому +23

      Firecracker, archer ,ram rider

    • @MadanMohan-oy1rv
      @MadanMohan-oy1rv 3 роки тому +17

      Witch ,night witch and mother witch

    • @djbishop2699
      @djbishop2699 3 роки тому +16

      Pretty sure he said female machines

    • @ic0nix_107
      @ic0nix_107 3 роки тому +1

      @@ciberkid22 yes but the comment is 6 months old…

    • @ciberkid22
      @ciberkid22 3 роки тому +1

      @@ic0nix_107 right, I must've missed that

  • @gravity3441
    @gravity3441 6 років тому +37

    I loved Nick right here! OJ did a great job. Nick kept calm and has that smile on his face and taunt OJ and OJ kinda played very seriously and countered Nick’s “silly decks” lol

  • @ntxoothoj2858
    @ntxoothoj2858 4 роки тому +73

    I like how OJ concentrate on what hes doing, while others spam emotes

  • @somerandomdog2867
    @somerandomdog2867 5 років тому +58

    I feel like orange juice was trying not to say POSITIVE ELIXIR TRADE

  • @eazeprestige8853
    @eazeprestige8853 8 місяців тому +27

    Nick you were suppose to destroy the darkness not join it

  • @Chilboyb21Gaming
    @Chilboyb21Gaming 5 років тому +35

    “Wifi symbol of death”
    Man is that relatable

  • @violett5783
    @violett5783 4 роки тому +68

    9:25
    Oj : Welp good game i lost..
    Also Oj :
    OH WAIT- HAHA I FORGOT I HAD POISON

  • @Yato_q
    @Yato_q 5 років тому +209

    *2 full grown men playing mobile games like they’re fighting for their lifes*
    Crowd:*goes crazy*

    • @blakeok952
      @blakeok952 5 років тому +34

      Welcome to esports

    • @ereks5090
      @ereks5090 5 років тому +14

      For 200k yep

    • @oreoman5993
      @oreoman5993 5 років тому +36

      2 groups of men kick a plastic sphere around grass for almost 2 hours
      Croud- cheers

    • @LeBornMajes
      @LeBornMajes 5 років тому +2

      Esports btw

    • @pipespeeps5349
      @pipespeeps5349 5 років тому +12

      Full grown men kicking a ball, crowd: goes crazy

  • @AJ-dx8si
    @AJ-dx8si Рік тому +13

    Nick looked great It’s so sad to see him go💔

  • @LeyvanA
    @LeyvanA 4 роки тому +2

    2017:nah
    2018:this shall be not recommended
    2019:probably
    2020:RECOMENDED

  • @corinneandallo8311
    @corinneandallo8311 5 років тому +26

    When OJ plays Clash Royale, he always says "Positive elexir trade"

  • @VILLAINOFYOURDREAMS
    @VILLAINOFYOURDREAMS 5 років тому +54

    8:28 lol the narrator says 1000 elixir (Listen Carefully)

  • @RichOffAirpods607
    @RichOffAirpods607 7 місяців тому +12

    Damn…seeing Nick now hurts man

  • @happybeavr
    @happybeavr Рік тому +13

    Miss this old Nick

  • @soraonze
    @soraonze 2 роки тому +3

    its good to see OJ playing normally and not screaming "THIS IS OBNOXIOUS" every 5 seconds for anything that happen in the match

  • @PiccoloSaucin
    @PiccoloSaucin 7 років тому +432

    I feel like nick wasn’t taking it seriously

    • @xxrang3r904
      @xxrang3r904 7 років тому +133

      Alex Karow 200000$ was on the line, i think he was pretty serious

    • @mental4940
      @mental4940 7 років тому +18

      yeah but wouldnt use decks that he need to know how to play just use the old ones that fit with him perfectly

    • @timskanaal8639
      @timskanaal8639 7 років тому +1

      Yeah because of giant sparky

    • @jonnassan
      @jonnassan 6 років тому +23

      Alex Karow there is no human kind that would look away from 20000$ on his eyes

    • @annoyingporange
      @annoyingporange 6 років тому +65

      There was an inferno tower and he just threw down a LONE PEKKA

  • @shreejitnair6594
    @shreejitnair6594 6 років тому +87

    09:47 The commentator on the right looks like Michael from Vsauce 😂😂

    • @JEYPICK
      @JEYPICK 5 років тому +2

      I see recomendations

    • @damonluker7401
      @damonluker7401 4 роки тому +2

      I wouldn't know. The recommendation was in the way, lol.

  • @teksapport9351
    @teksapport9351 Рік тому +7

    one of the most iconic matches of this tournament is now tainted for eternity

  • @straightflexin9598
    @straightflexin9598 4 роки тому +18

    9:24 OJ’s reaction when he thought he was going to lose but ended up winning 😂

  • @ysacninja6024
    @ysacninja6024 5 років тому +65

    *Rockets the ice spirit*
    “PoSiTivE EliXir tRaDe!”

  • @dipeshdes3958
    @dipeshdes3958 4 роки тому +8

    The show hosters were struggling more then those 2 pro players 😂😂

  • @MPSS559
    @MPSS559 3 роки тому +14

    At 2:50 the fact that he survived that push is insane

    • @mirabshabbir5176
      @mirabshabbir5176 3 роки тому +1

      Not really. It was pretty simple defend.

    • @Depressed_until_dead
      @Depressed_until_dead 3 роки тому +1

      @@mirabshabbir5176 he also did a mistaken placement with the e-wiz

  • @matt6260
    @matt6260 Рік тому +10

    Aww.. Nick we miss you

  • @anonymousbuffalo2921
    @anonymousbuffalo2921 2 роки тому +4

    Watching this in 2022 I struggle to understand how they got into that tournament... 0:48 got to be one of the worst pekkas ive ever seen lmao

  • @jeff5lee
    @jeff5lee Рік тому +14

    Damn, old nick

  • @PansyPops
    @PansyPops 4 роки тому +4

    2 years later, and it’s still one of my favourite videos.

  • @selimsamman260
    @selimsamman260 3 роки тому +3

    That last card was a mirror when oj was gonna give up it reflected his name, orange juice. It told him he needed to win in order to become the great cheeser.

  • @rajuchannawar973
    @rajuchannawar973 4 роки тому +10

    1:19 when I heard positive elixir trade in favour of OJ , my earwax went out of my ear

  • @deiviswst6661
    @deiviswst6661 7 років тому +78

    Awsome oj the last seconds you thought you lost with the hands in the air like you just dont care 😂😂😂

    • @javiehr
      @javiehr 6 років тому +7

      i think he meant to place the poison and though “yay i won” and then he realized it didnt place so he used it again

    • @buldockschannel1528
      @buldockschannel1528 6 років тому +6

      Akenzie he didnt have enough elixir for poison and he thought jumberjack was gonna land that hit

  • @kevinrobloxfun8756
    @kevinrobloxfun8756 7 років тому +419

    Good game to you nick i like nick vids

    • @its__ammar5764
      @its__ammar5764 7 років тому +6

      kevin progame 👉👌👉👌👉👌=👪

    • @a.bagasm.7253
      @a.bagasm.7253 6 років тому +1

      Family friendly

    • @notabdo8585
      @notabdo8585 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@a.bagasm.7253well, this aged like fine watermelons.

  • @alwildcat4942
    @alwildcat4942 Рік тому +14

    Will not be forgotten nic at night

  • @namelessmonster4857
    @namelessmonster4857 3 роки тому +3

    4:40 I thought I was the only one who suffer from this poor internet connection thing

  • @akshayashok9843
    @akshayashok9843 2 роки тому +1

    What happened at 9:26 was a drop glitch.. Oj placed the poison about 2 seconds earlier but it was late in arena.. Not Bm ing or Forgetting or Getting scared of Mega Minion

  • @braydenbarrett5948
    @braydenbarrett5948 5 років тому +4

    Iv been watching nickatnyte ever since I first started clash(when clash came out) he has helped me through a lot with deck tips and tricks

    • @Jessie101
      @Jessie101 5 років тому

      Brayden Barrett wow!

  • @OnASmokoLad
    @OnASmokoLad 5 років тому +12

    The thing I want to know is what was OJs last card

  • @ultrawankerobliterator420
    @ultrawankerobliterator420 5 років тому +7

    Oh my god these commentators and their jokes had me finished 😂😂

  • @samiulhasan7411
    @samiulhasan7411 5 років тому +1

    As far as I know oj is the best player, never lost to any UA-camr

  • @unhombre2126
    @unhombre2126 2 роки тому +3

    I missed how the old night witch spawn bats when she dies

  • @liodimascio2980
    @liodimascio2980 6 років тому +11

    "Uh Oh, the wifi symbol of death" hhahahahaha

  • @okbuddyxd2859
    @okbuddyxd2859 5 років тому +24

    4:43 iTs sO BeAuTiFuL
    Edit: why is the like button blue

  • @Terrabyte425
    @Terrabyte425 Рік тому +14

    Ah yes before the *incedint*

  • @Z0MBGaming
    @Z0MBGaming 3 роки тому +1

    Missing the old days when clash royale was the best game, that I always waiting for these events :)

  • @sami_irl
    @sami_irl 3 роки тому +1

    "We suffered that joke" Im definitely stealing that

  • @samgalloway4036
    @samgalloway4036 5 років тому +8

    We've suffered with that joke lmao

  • @UnknownUser-wd6yf
    @UnknownUser-wd6yf 5 років тому +6

    "Better than a pump , big ol' Golem!"

  • @chiefsam_g19
    @chiefsam_g19 8 місяців тому +7

    When the game was good.

  • @esfandiaralifattan9409
    @esfandiaralifattan9409 3 роки тому +1

    still remember these days u just have a king emote not goblin emote or barbarian emote just king emote

  • @charm6176
    @charm6176 4 роки тому +2

    No one:
    NickAtNyte: *”T H A N K S”*
    Also NickAtNyte: *L O S E S*
    Me: 😂😂😂

    • @yuaan
      @yuaan 4 роки тому

      why do you have to say ":No one:" doesn't really add anything to the joke

    • @charm6176
      @charm6176 4 роки тому

      Yuaan Kabeer why are you mad? Doesn’t really add to the fun? :/

  • @Ash12422
    @Ash12422 6 років тому +5

    In the second battle immediately knew that nick was playing the golem deck Molt showed

  • @mothhunter2337
    @mothhunter2337 5 років тому +4

    4:08 are they trying to hypnotize me into watching rumham videos?

  • @nainuddinansari575
    @nainuddinansari575 5 років тому +10

    4:45 it feels good without the wink, .)))

  • @StarNightGaming
    @StarNightGaming 3 роки тому +2

    Seeing OJ play at his best is truly a sight to see

  • @zahbrawl
    @zahbrawl 5 років тому +1

    those inferno dragons and towers mixed with skill is what won the game

  • @mohammedamal8934
    @mohammedamal8934 4 роки тому +3

    Is there something in orange juices’ mouth??? I mean he was rounding his mouth the whole time 😂😂😂

  • @Megagamers-om1nx
    @Megagamers-om1nx 5 років тому +3

    0:08 lol the emote and bring the old emotes back

  • @chals39
    @chals39 5 років тому +5

    8:13 A POSSSSITIVE ELIXER TRADE

  • @mareckverdan193
    @mareckverdan193 4 роки тому

    A important esport tournament had wifi issues...
    and i thought i was having bad wifi..

  • @blackpsuperdrillakadopep9021
    @blackpsuperdrillakadopep9021 3 роки тому

    They have passed 3 years and i still was like "YES,LETS GO OJ YOU GOT THIS LETS GOOO" and when i saw in the final match at the end OJ almost losing i was like noo and i gave up watching it cuz i really felt bad for him but OJ had a last chance and he never gives up until the last hope and he won the game fortunately.WELL DONE OJ WITH MUCH MUCH LOVE FROM GREECE

  • @x.RICHAED
    @x.RICHAED 6 років тому +16

    When you realize that they're playing a friendly battle

  • @EpicMel0ns
    @EpicMel0ns 6 років тому +4

    Love both tubers, glad it was a close game

  • @Rofilme
    @Rofilme 5 років тому +6

    5:17 that el primo bruh and it was 2017 how ?

    • @khein2204
      @khein2204 4 роки тому

      well cuz it is released in 2017

  • @eddykidplayzyt
    @eddykidplayzyt 2 роки тому

    I’ve only ever watched one other clash Royale tourney, and I don’t know why I didn’t watch more, these are very fun to watch :)

  • @kingweirdude2461
    @kingweirdude2461 3 роки тому +1

    clash royale is a sport now when is the next super bowl

  • @Jose-st3fq
    @Jose-st3fq 9 місяців тому +7

    2:16 you could say that again

    • @nate9022
      @nate9022 8 місяців тому

      YOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @jingle5852
    @jingle5852 4 роки тому +3

    OJ's face was the only thing I looked at the entire video

  • @harshitkaushik2419
    @harshitkaushik2419 Рік тому +7

    Missing old nick 🥲 plz comeback ,i was just like you in my teenage i felt like girl sometimes but that doesnt mean that u have to become a woman you can have both nature of feminine and masculine just like lord shiva i know sometimes you want to change yourself but just think for a second ,,there is a whole community who loves you u truly the legend of Clash history ,i know you want to be yourself but just think how it will affect others heart and love for you

  • @singhbhai
    @singhbhai 3 роки тому +3

    The Skill Cap 2 Years Ago was Hilarious

  • @bug1730
    @bug1730 5 років тому +1

    Who else watched this video with their volume down just to avoid commentators;)

  • @rishabhprasad2623
    @rishabhprasad2623 3 роки тому

    Watching two OG's battle together is hard, when you know one is going to loss....

  • @boltzmann3989
    @boltzmann3989 2 роки тому +5

    0:46 that play was honestly so trash...

  • @danielcastillo7135
    @danielcastillo7135 4 роки тому +24

    Oj was smiling first game cause he almost lost

  • @RandomWalkz
    @RandomWalkz 7 років тому +5

    Amazing game plays! Outstanding placements and timing from OJ; Thanks for sharing!

    • @coolnorsee6869
      @coolnorsee6869 5 років тому

      They make brawl stars, already so long, i mean like 2 years ago

  • @abdulghanyofficial6822
    @abdulghanyofficial6822 3 роки тому +1

    Setelah ada pas royal jd kurang seru.. Bagi yg kurang mampu dan yg udah lama main
    Dulu susah, sekarang tinggal beli pas royal udah cepet

  • @f2pguy438
    @f2pguy438 5 років тому

    1 year later and the last card is still not found

  • @christiandoms2215
    @christiandoms2215 5 років тому +3

    Nick had all of those in the bag, he’s just not cycling fast enough

    • @schang358
      @schang358 3 роки тому +1

      The first match was definitely OJ's game. He had electro wiz, zap, inferno plus a lot faster cycle