Why Mario is PAINFULLY AVERAGE in Melee, and how he changed in Project M
Вставка
- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Mario is pretty okay in Melee. Being barely mid-tier basically means you aren't that viable in the Melee Meta. Mario does get buffed in Project M, which helps his character archetype become more fleshed out and overall rewarding to play.
That Forward Air tho
0:00 Why Mario is Painfully Average in Melee
8:34 How Mario was Fixed in PM/Project Plus
Like, comment, and Subscribe!!!
PATREON: / honestcontent
REDDIT: / zachhonest
Thank you to the people on Patreon!
---
gnar
Jose Rosario
Trix
Laserman2
Bavilla Merritt Jr.
DrinkingFood - Ігри
Comment Below with any characters you guys want to be covered in the future!
Why is P+ Link so shunned despite his absurd defensive power and stage control?
@@arnox4554 In Melee his speed has a big thing to do with it
@@ZachHonest For sure. Melee Link from 64 Link feels a little too much like two steps forward, four steps back. With that said PM/P+ Link is FAR better than either of the two. In my arrogant opinion, people are sleeping on P+ Link hard.
@@ZachHonest The one thing I like about melee Mario is his character design.
link
Despite him being average in melee. The one thing I love about Mario is his character design from melee. It's like an upgraded version of the N64 era It's really cool.
Couldn't agree more. Artsyle in Melee is the best for this reason.
@@davidvkimball true
Dem jean pockets tho.
Same
FAIR that’s all I need to say
This video is really dope, only confusing thing about it is sometimes the references just don't show the point you're talking about.
Like the shiek having good tilts and combos, etc. The clip you referenced just showed shiek getting combo'd which was weird.
Man your content is getting sicker with every upload. The editing in this is a lot of fun!
I like practicing Mario in PM now and again cuz of the simple combos myself. I like how they made him stronger cuz it makes Mario vs Wario tourney matches that much more hype to watch.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Mario was one of the first characters added during development and was result of power creep. I hear that Kirby is often speculated to been power creep too
I don't play P+ or Melee but this video managed to keep me entertained throughout! Keep up the good work man.
1:59 you could also say he's Mastered by n0ne
This video has to be my favorite, again man you have really come a long way. Your editing is starting to become better and better after every video.
Your editing is really great
Really nice editing wish you the best gangy ❤️🙏
probably my favorite video from you, vvvv good job!!
This content is so fucking honest dude. Keep it up 👍
I try to keep it honest with the content you know...
😂😂😂
good video
Lol meticu frame one.
That is one amazing thumbnail. it really caught my eye
Mario is my main in PM, I'm so excited to watch a video about him
Subscribed keep up the melee content
Great video!
wait a minute... a project+ channel of this caliber has been here this WHOLE TIME? insta subbed
PM Mario's forward air is fucking nuts
7:19 Honest content: Speed of the recovery
Me: Its still better than fox's which is like 1.5 seconds of startup
the chad dr. mario vs. the virgin mario. you should totally cover dr. mario next tho :D
Smash Bros: *Mario being a consistent mid tier*
Competitive Players: We’re about to do what’s called a pro gamer move…
future mario players getting top 8: *ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT*
@Rat posiibly
@@Dorriedude doc will be there before mario will be tho hes just better
@@yayayayayaya8140 no
I appreciate the Sonic Adventure 2 music you included 👌💯
You bet, its a classic soundtrack.
Mario had quite the glowup to PM
ehys everything stretched horizontally
did you capture a 4:3 feed that was stretched to 16:9 ?
Can anybody remind me where the song that begins at 8:34 is from? I feel like I've heard it for hundreds of hours but I can't for the life of me remember which game it was.
Nevermind, I found it: "Inside the Whale" from Super Monkey Ball 2 :)
I think I would be more interested in these if they focused on official releases. Like what False Swipe Gaming does with Pokemon
I'm pretty sure false swipe gaming already does that too
1:25 no, actully the largest drop in the game is zelda as she was top 6 in melee's first tier list before becomming a bottom tier
As a Mario main I see where you're going with this
Mario is awesome in smash bros
Music used?
Dedicated Falcon main in melee. Wario player in P+. I love Wario to death, if Wario was 26th rank in melee... Idk what I'd do 😅 might just have to play him.
P+ Mario is fun, but Luigi is where it's at for me and I hate playing Luigi in almost every Smash game
Great music choices
Does anyone here know what songs are used in this video? I music list in the description would be helpful.
@@GoldGuard
Funky Stadium - Mario Kart Wii
Bright Sound...For Dry Lagoon - Sonic Adventure
Space Colony - Monkey Ball 2
Whale - Monkey Ball 2
Idk the rest
@@electropolitan4386Thanks a lot!🙏🏽 How did you find these songs? There are a lot of videos where I like the music but I can’t know songs because they’re never listed. Is there a method to finding these songs in videos or were these just songs that you already knew?
@@GoldGuard Sure thing, I grew up with these games, I love their soundtracks. You might be able to try Shazam, dunno if it'd work
Cool
Mario mario luigi mario
Does anyone know the name of all the music tracks he uses in this video? they sound really awesome but I have no idea were they come from. except "fly into freedom".
I don't know all of them but I'll try to share my thoughts
1 Mario kart Wii classy remix
2 sounds like it's from Mario strikers
Update: Funky Stadium- Mario Kart Wii
3 Sonic Adventure 2 -n102 Fahrenheit (name guess)
4 Sounds like it's from monkey ball
5 unknown
6 can't tell
Thanks for reading my 10/10 insight pls like
@@MystDawg thank you so much for the info, i really appreciate that you took the time to answer.
@@TheLuckystar96 No problem muchacho, I am glad to be helping
great video but, can you make it so what your talking about is referencing the gameplay all the time? no need just a nit pick from me though. heavily underrated youtuber though!
im liking that monkey ball 2 music lol
LESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Meanwhile Zelda moved way lower than Mario from a similar initial spot.
Hold up. Doesn't Fox have piss poor ranged too and he's considered OP in Melee's competitive environment?
Well Doctor Mario has the same dash speed, air speed, air acceleration and fast fall speed and his attacks are slightly more laggy and soem are less range for greater combo starters, koing and knockback.
Luigi is the slowest and gets koed the easiest and with more predictiable attacks but he has better koing, knockback, misfire is better recovery if you get the lucky 12.5 percent chance and he for some people says the best combo character out of the 3, some people say it.
For a mid teir recovery, mario has the best recovery with luigi or mid and low teirs.
It's predictable and hard to master.
Mario has a cape for stalling his recovery
Up special is an decent recovery
And his down special can be a recovery
He does have a good wall jump.
+Good combo game
+ multiple recovery
+Good out of shield options
+Low Lag attacks
+Good zoning by his fireball
+Decent edgeguard by fireball and cape.
-Lacks range
-Preditable recovery
-Great against low teir characters
-Lacks Ko
-struggles against high teir characters
-lacks a good grab
-Outclassed by his clones
Also spoiler for who didnt watch the video, mario was significantly puffed by project M and P plus. His attacks are faster, stronger, betterrecovery, edgeguard, Ko options and was shown A lot in tournaments, he is consumed a midnight teir or a high teir character meaning you are great in the game, he beated marth and has favorable matchups.
Mario Dash speed 1.5
Don't be a slow character ,(Mario has an average dash speed)
Because it ruins combos, Retreats, Approaching, recovery and Zoning like bowser. Also has low lag attacks because if you dont then Frame 1 shine will be great against it and your attacks are predictable
Mario has some had some bonuses in melee that keeper it from being crazy good or terrible.
His attacks have lower knockback
+Better combos
-Worse Koing potential
His Up smash is faster
+less predictable
-but at the cost of lower damage.
Mario is an jack of all trades. He us great for comboes and edgeguarding. Hes a decent zoner and a decent recovery. But his attacks are weak, lacks Ko options, his recovery is predictable, an struggles against high teir characters. Thank you for your time. Like your vids honest Content
Personally, I think Mario was a decent fighter in Melee. He did have problems, which weren’t that big of a deal until Brawl.
Also I’ve been able to defeat Giga Bowser with Mario on the day of writing this comment.
Mario is okay
Why are you stretching Melee to 16:9? The game is 4:3, it looks horrible stretched
Is Mario unviable in melee?
Yes
1:24 Zelda, actually.
As someone who plays both doc and Mario, I prefer Mario
I never really played as Dr. Mario all that much in "Melee", but I've played as both Luigi and Mario a lot over the years. LOL
Mario is like a welfare combination of Falcon and Sheik lol.
This is anti-mario propaganda.
YOU DON'T MENTION THAT Dr's B-air in melee was a weak semi-spike while Mario's was a generic medium power aerial.
And in PM its a medium power semi-spike!