Zvezda Varyag Part 7 Wood Deck Plank Effect
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- I wanted to get a more interesting look for the wood veneer deck. The veneer was nice but I felt too light and uniform in colour. So in this video I have tried to stain different planks a variety of browns to produce a much more random appearance.
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I just bought my first ship model and aftermarket veneer decking. Excellent vid. Just what I needed. Your replies in the comments are very useful too. Thanks!
Great to hear!
Now i know how the Master does it! Thank you for this one... a very realistic finish indeed! I have the 1/350 Academy, the Emden, the Arizona and one more or 2 i can t remember now all with Eduard or ensign sets and wood decks... just trying to feel strong enough to take one of those as a project... thanks mate!
You can do it... think of it as an aircraft without wings or a tank with no tracks... just a model.
Harry don't stop !!! I have just finished my first model ship in 40 years. The techniques and tips you pass on help people get back in to doing this hobby. I have never done a wooden deck your video and waffle have saved me a ruined model. keep up the great videos mate.
Thanks Steve... waffle I can do!
You're a lifesaver harry! I was panel lining my 1/700 bismarck and accidentally stained a huge blob on the wood veneer deck, this helped me to lighten up the color and hid the natsy blob.
Great! Always good to hear of my methods getting used by other modellers.
Harry, your decking her out in style' loving you build.
Many thanks Paul... it is a nice kit and a very pretty subject to work on.
Outstanding and brilliant Harry! I love it, Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it David…
Cheers Harry. Looking great and it's gonna be even better when you finish. ☺
Thanks Angus... I should be my best ship build the way it's shaping up. I just love the colours.
Agree, the deck looks much better with the staining and wash., Nice work.
Thanks Mark.. more art than realism but I like it - it's pretty!
I think it looks great, I also enjoyed the how-to on doing it. Thanks mate :)
Glad you liked it... was an experiment on my part, but I think I will use this method again on my next ship, now I have mastered it.
Harry! I love waffles!!! Don’t stop!
Can do... you want icecream or bacon with yours?
Harry Houdini Models
How about both? In one Big bowl👍🏼
Done... Bask! Waffles with icream and bacon, and snap to it!
Hi Harry, the effect on the decks looks really good & breaks up the stark brightness of the clean wooden deck, the ship is really coming together nicely. All the best.
Thanks Mark
Nice look to the deck. Looks much better.
Thanks Greg, I think so too.
Harry my friend, between you, Nigel and Johnny from Hillbilly Military Modelling, I have so many different ways to try to paint wood and wooden decks and tools. The effect of this deck is amazing mate.
Thanks matey… it is an easy one to do with many variations possible.
Wow very nice indeed thank you for showing us how you got the deck planking looking great
Thanks Greg, glad you liked it
Your very welcome
Great job Harry! Thanks for sharing!
You are welcome Jason. Glad you liked it
Another great tip Harry. Have not tried wood veneer yet, but will soon.
It has advantages and disadvantages but I like the real wood effect and it’s masking property over the deck parts.
Great stuff harry :) Far too many people simply glue their wooden veneer down without doing anything to it. Model mfrs kept it (colour) "light" so one can easily "custom" the colour towards more realistic "planking". I was a little worried about the opacity of the "salt wash" in the beginning but like the colour after it "soaked in" and dried.
Something for folks to keep in mind is that lumber has a tendency to turn "grey" when exposed to UV rays and the elements. Although decks come in all shapes and sizes most are laid down from Teak, not pine as model mfrs would have us believe. When it comes to ships, a ship is normally commissioned for 25-30 yrs sometimes ships go beyond their normal "commissioned periods" and their decks must endure "time" and hence why Teak is used for its strength, durability and resistance to rot.
You only get out what you put in :) Job well done Harry!
Thanks Richard... luckily I had used my acrylic washes before so knew how they go on strong but tend to evaporate away. A days testing on scrap veneer taught me to go thick after I discovered how much it soaked into the wood. The Varyag version I choose would have be no more than 6 years after her keel was laid down, so I’m using a lot of artistic license.
:) You sound like Paul LOL :)
Oh really.. did he buy a license too?
Nah! he is driving without a license. Time to slap his peepee LOL
Just started mine and your videos are excellent. Hope to get it to te same standard as yours. Liked the end comments there is always something to learn or refresh.
Thanks Colin...
Great work as always Harry
Thanks matey
Thanks Mr. Harry
Happy to help...
wonderful stuff Harry
Thanks matey... I was hoping for wonderment
I have built a number of wooden ships and have some experience with wood decks. Might I suggest you give wood stains a go. I have found for military ships a very good stain is in the range of a summer oak and you can even mix them. I had one I did that came out really good and I added a small amount of a traditional cherry stain to it and the result was a very realistic recreation of the teak finish many of these ships used. Definitely worth checking out and for sure a whole lot cheaper than using model specific products. My favorite brand is Rust Oleum wood stains, hope that gives you an idea of something else to give a try. I do like the idea of the dried salt and think I will give that a go on my next project.
Thanks for the tip but I already had all the other washes on hand. So no extra cost involved.
Looks awesome, keep it up
Thanks matey
Looks awesome to me mate
Thanks Shane.
Doing a custom Arizona and Nevada. This will definitely help. Thanks.
Glad it helped
Denny Pierson
Hi Harry, Great effect on the wood decks on the Varyag. I wanted to try out your ideas , but could not track down the MIG "light rust wash or the color life dry salt pigment. Could you tell me what supplier carried the paints.
Really Enjoy your ad lib.
PS. thanks for the Nail tape tip, used it on Hobby Boss, SMS Seydilz and looks great
Any rusty brown colours would work, as long as they are thinned to a wash. Same with the salt which is just a thin white. The Ammo Mig washes were part of an amour rust set and the Lifecolor salt is in their ship detail set of Liquid Pigments.
I picked up quite a comprehensive Kids water based paint box for a couple of quid recently with weathering in mind.
Would this work do you think.
Also as a point of interest,when I did my first kit three years ago,The Titanic when I was only in the “Paint it and glue” it stage,I discovered the weathered look by chance.
I was building the stern deck and the One of my Cats tipped my cup of Tea over it whilst I was doing something else!
It had nearly dried when I came back and I was amazed at the way the tea got in the Deck scoring and brought the detail out!
PS:Why do Modelers always have a pet Cat!
You discovered a wash.
It's seems like a trend, Lad. Models and cats.
A person build models usually sits quietly and mostly devoid of erratic behaviour. Cats like an environment like that and I know that is how I like things to be also. We both dislike the cold and my work bench is just below a double width window and attracts sunlight and I guess that we both like each others company too. Life is mostly happier when shared with a Cat: any pet actually, but I do have a special fondness for our feline friends.
Harry met you today at swap meet talking about EZ line, I enjoy your channel
Thanks mate... did you settle on a Wingnut Wings kit to buy?
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Nice... you should enjoy that one..
Another great video guv'nor! 👍👌👏
She's just the right size for the tub, right? 😉😄😂
Yep in the tub with the suds and rubber ducky!
Question if i may... i have a AK salt Enamel wash for red hull... is this maybe an equivalent to the salt wash you use? Or the fact that is enamel makes it wrong? thank you
Not wrong but you can't wash enamel over enamel without a protective clear coat between. That's why I had enamel plank wash with an acrylic salt deck wash over it... they wont interfere with each other.
Harry I think the way you work with washes is the best part of your game . Looming forward to thise funnels .
Harry Houdini Models Thats why i asked Harry thank you so much... i think i will buy a salt wash acrlic like you did... its not much money and above all safer.. thank you again mate!
That looks very good! I'm not usually a fan of the wood veneer decks, but you really made them look great! They seem to take washes very well.
Have you tried those liquid pigments on plastic? If so, do they create the same subtle lightening effect, or do they act as a white panel line wash?
Thanks for sharing your build, greetings from Denmark!
Yes I have used the Acrylic Lifecolor washes on other models and to great effect for wood panelling inside my Wingnut Wings Hansa Brandenburg W.12. There is a video on my channel about that one. Of course they don’t soak into plastic, because it’s not as porous as wood, but you can get some great effects.
Thanks a lot, I'll have a look.
Hi! Great work! Very Interesting and informative!! I found the dryed salt.. But I'm in the U.S. shipping is 85 pounds! Can't find that product over here... Is there an equivalent I can purchase in the U.S.?
Thanks!
Any white wash will do. However if you are putting enamel over enamel or Tamiya over Tamiya, make sure you seal the plank effects with a clear coat first.
Hi Harry , picking your brain here! Recently got the Yamato and getting wood decks for Xmas , you mentioned that next time you'd do all the staining while the veneer is off the ship , was wondering if it would warp it , its my first go and love the effect any advice , I usually use oil washes these days ,would this be a problem with the veneer and the salt effect
Thanks for your question. When I said do the washes off the model, I meant still attached to the plastic deck part. The wood veneer is so thin it’s warping strength is insignificant once glued to the plastic deck. The PVA wood glue, and self adhesive on the veneer should not react with oil or water based washes. What I was hoping to avoid was accidental flooding of thinner which dissolved the plastic cement joint of the deck to the hull in my video. Hope that makes it clear?
Thanks so much for your help 😊😊😊
Hello Mr. H. from the Great White North (Canada eh?). Please increase your waffle content even more! It's great!
A quick question. Could this weathering all be done prior to removing the plastic backing from the veneer and affixing the deck to the model?
Martin
In theory you could but two problems may occur. The wood veneer is very thin and fragile so depending on the thinners you use, they could weaken the fibres and possibly make the wood fragment. You also could accidentally flood under the veneer destroying the thin layer of adhesive. What might be better is to attach the wood veneer to the plastic deck parts before assembling the model. I did this successfully with the Graf Spee. Or only use water based acrylics to stain the planks, which hopefully would not compromise the strength of the veneer. It’s just a lot safer to have the ship assembled, then add your wood effects.
@@HarryHoudiniModels Thanks so much for the sage advice. Continued success with your channel. M
hi does this also work on painted plastic decks and would tablesalt work to bleach the finish thanks
Yes the technique works on plastic decks... I recently used it on the Revell 1:110 Bounty I am building. Table Salt could be problem.. it is a granular acid and may produce unexpected results, very patchy and likely to change paint colours. We use rock salt for rust effects on vehicles. Try a thin white wash instead.
Brilliant! Thank you! Btw, was your other paint sealed with anything? Before you put the enamels on.
I did not seal the wood veneer, because I wanted the washes to soak in for a muted effect. If you are doing this over a plastic part then best seal the top layer of paint first.
No, sorry I was saying the other surfaces of the deck details. The plastic pieces on the deck, that is what I was referring to.
Hi, what’s the name of that salt pigment as I have a wooden veneer deck for my HMS Dreadnought and I can’t seem to find it?
As shown in my video, it’s part of Lifecolour Liquid Pigments Hulls and Wooden Decks set - LPW 20..Dried Salt
Hi, yes I found it on emodels, thank you and would just like to add I’ve watched a lot of your vids and am learning a lot from thank, thanks again buddy
I’m making my first boat and I cannot decide whether you paint the white parts first then mask and paint decking or the other way around. Either way it looks like a lot of complex masking. Is there a better or simpler way?
I paint just about everything before assembly. The only masking I do is the plimsol line on the hull. If you use a wood veneer deck, then you paint the plastic deck parts all white, for the Varyag. Add your wood deck and all the little white sections poke through. Job done. Ships are all about layers of subassemblies which are best completed and painted first, before layering the next.
Harry Houdini Models thanks for the tips. I will do all the white then and the. Paint the wood decks. I have been airbrushing the hull but I think brushing the decks will be easier and save a lot of masking.
If you don’t have a wood veneer deck then yes, hairy brushing is the best way to get it done. I recently did that on the tiny Nippon Maru
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How did you prevent the veneer deck from warping after applying your washes
It has never happened. Mainly because I don’t apply too much of either the enamel or acrylic wash to the surface, avoiding flooding, which could in theory get under the adhesive side and lift, or as you say may warp, the veneer
Thanks for the advice. Have you ever thought about using watercolor pencils?
I do use pencils for some touch ups and highlighting, but for the wood veneer decks, it already has texture and grain, all it needs is a filter to get the colours the way you want.
what's the wash called (and brand ?)
If you mean the ‘salt’ wash then it is part of the Lifecolor Liquid Pigments Hulls & Wooden Decks set.
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Stain Vs paint ?
Yes Alec using the wood veneer as a base then staining the planks, I think you get a better wood deck effect and you also get the advantage of the wood veneer cutout saving you having to mask.