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Buying a Variegated Monstera? | Thai Constellation vs Albo Borsigiana
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Hello from the year 2020 where cutting for these plants are now $200 minimum.
Here in the Netherlands I see them from 15€ to 60€ so it depends on where you're from I guess. I've heard that they're way more expensive in the US than in Europe so yeah I feel bad for ya.
Carmen V Waar heb je deze planten gevonden? Ik kan er echt geen 1 vinden :(
@@lulu486 There are plenty of them on facebook groups
....for a cutting.
Can I buy a cutting from you
All considered I must get both
Well aint this a phat MOOD 😂
l CACKLED at that
@BLazej SAME 😅🤣😆
It's funny looking back at this video and listening to the prices of these plants in 2019, as they have more then tripled now in 2021. It's pretty insane.
And a year later, their prices have dropped to downright affordable!
I just found a mature Thai constellation at my local nursery for $125! It was a steal in my opinion. I was so excited
Emily Furtak HOLY CRAP! 😍
WHERE DID YOU GOT FROM, CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE ME THE SELLERS NAME PLEASE? THANK YOU SOO MUCH
Me too please
Jeto_ Pse_Jo she literally said from her local nursery...did you not read the whole comment?!
I wanted to know which exactly nursery
Originally I thought the Thai constellation was much less aesthetically pleasing than the albo borsigiana, but after watching this video, I have found a deeper appreciation and beauty in it.
She is one of the most informed and pleaant content creators. My go-to girl for plant knowledge. Thank you for your videos
I just saw someone win an auction last night for a one leaf cutting and she’s paying $470 I couldn’t believe it. This variegated monstera craze is out of control
One full grown plant sold for 3k usd in new Zealand
Literally found only one for sale that has 3 leaves for $600!!?! Am I crazy or should I buy it?!
Watching this in 2021 crying that I didn’t buy one years ago
I thk the price has dropped drastically recently.
I bought my Thai constellation on Etsy for $225 about 6 months ago which felt like highway robbery but I think is pretty comparable to standard pricing these days. It came as a small plant with four leaves all nicely variegated but small and since then, when given pride of place in my collection (best sunlight, best care) it has actually shocked me with how fast it's growing and how dramatically the leaf sizes have shot up! It feels like every new leaf has a new one coming on in a matter of days. It's now 8 leaves, each bigger with more fenestrations than the last!! Absolutely love it and would recommend =)
I actually massively appreciated having the price side of theses plants included in your video! I think a lot of people forget to cover that, v v helpful
That background!!! A variegated monstera forest!!!
Imagine this and a variegated macrorrhiza side by side
It’s incredible how the market has since changed! I just bought a baby Thai Con with no fenestrations and 3 leaves, it’s about 7-8” tall, and I paid about $300 USD (a really good deal for my area of the US at this time especially seeing as it is shipping from within the states). I also paid about $350 for an albo about 3 months ago. I got such a good deal, again that is for the area I live in, in the states, because Logees nursery considered it a “low variegation plant”. I have one leaf with low variegation, but the top 3 leaves have nice sectoral and marbled variegation and I am totally thrilled with it and personally feel it may have been mislabeled. I do tend to stay away from albos with more than 50% of its leaves having more than 50% white; they scare me! My albo is bigger than the Thai constellation with 4 leaves and some fenestrations on the top 2 of the 4. Lastly, I bought a single node albo “chonk/wet stick” with one tiny root and a visible growth point (just a small green dot when purchased, now just about to finally push out its first leaf!!!) for $150 including shipping, about 3-4 months ago. It’s now April of 2022 for reference. I am super excited to grow all of my variegated monsteras. I have had and continue to have fun growing my green deliciosa as well! Be well and thank you for all of the info!
I love logees. I just visited there last week to pick up a Thai con. That store is always dangerous for my wallet! Lol
how are your monsteras doing? I’m still hoping I don’t get the root rot on the Thai and still day dreaming over the albos!
wow- the price has increased dramatically ppl are now asking hundreds of dollars
I know!! Now in Canada it’s 500$ for a cutting
I got a Thai constellation recently thanks to your video like two weeks ago. I've never been happier with my plant.
I hope costa farms swoops in and floods the market with them, hopefully making the prices less ridiculous, they dont have to be cheap but just not insane like they are now
I'd try going to shops that sell plants but aren't specialised if there are any near you I how a albo with 6 leaves for £22 at my local b and q
@@jean-lucchessher7065 Wow at B and Q? That was a steal then. It's not every day you'd find that at all! 😅
A year later and any update on their release? Will Costa farms only affect prices in the USA or all around the world?
Update from Costa farm , they fail to produce the Thai constellation monstera, and just a few of plant were grow successfully and a bit less were released on the market to see how they behave in shipping. But noting else and prices are still high I got a cutting for 120
@@jeancarlosperdomo5592 I found two of their Albos at walmart and got them for $26 most of the plant is full green, but the new shoots I saw were white or cream and green. Waiting for them to open.
you've taught me a lot about this plant! and i think i prefer thai constellation now due to the node spacing and also need for the green so it can continue to grow. thanks so much!
Where on earth are you finding cuttings like that for 60$ USD????? I can’t find any cheaper than 125$!!!!!!
Carter Houtman got mine from the people’s plants but have also seen them else where :-) you have to find nurseries/whole sellers because they have more access to importers and thus can sell it cheaper than private individual sellers
I've only ever seen really small plants for around AU$1500 - $2000 (US$1000 - $1400) in the Sydney area, well except for a few auctions for cuttings where the reserve was AU$750 but I think they sold well over reserve price.
In Western Australia small cuttings got for $350+
Europe i guess, in the Netherlands you can find a cutting between 10-20 € so.. much much cheaper😱
@@Prickle_H in sydney that cutting would be 400 or so
Your informational videos have been CRITICAL in my recent ALBO MONSTERA shopping endeavors!!🌿💚😍 Thank you so much for you helpful, and informative videos!!🤓🙏💁💚 Because of YOU I have the best chance of making informed decisions while my HEART IS RACING on EBAY!!😅🤣😂🙏💚
Literally have been trying to figure out this information the last few weeks! Thank you for making this video!!
I go pick out my Thai Constellation in two weeks! I’m pretty excited! I have literally search EVERYWHERE to find one! Thank you for this video! ☺️
Kaylee, please do a video on how you treat them to keep the from getting crispy how you care for both of your plants and where they live. Also, how you propagate? The steps you take and how you keep it from rotting ?
Hearing the prices of those where you live makes me so jealous! 😂 A rooted albo cutting of that size has a starting bid of over $200USD. They can go for $400USD. I live in Perth Australia and we have strict quarantine laws, which bottle necks any plants coming into the state.
@@kla9914 what is this place called?
Thai constellations are definitely easier to come across in Australia now than what they were a couple of months ago when I purchased mine. They're even starting to be available to purchase from our biggest hardware stores (for $300 AUD) which is the same price I paid for mine.
Then in terms of variegated monstera's.. well they may as well be unicorns. Recently I was watching an auction on eBay where a two leaf cutting with nice variegation went for over $1,300 AUD..
And then if you're wanting a plant with at least four cuttings or/established, you're looking at paying anywhere from $2,000.
I wish our plant prices were as cheap as the UK! 🤯
Good video! I might be leaning towards a Thai Constellation now having heard your breakdown of the differences between them.
Something I've noticed is that when looking at Monstera Thai Constellation online is that a huge portion of the plants for sale are coming directly from Thailand, which means there is a real risk of the plant getting stuck at customs and either delayed for days or weeks or thrown out entirely. Many sellers will offer a "documentation" fee for around $30 so that the shipment gets processed properly and quickly, so it's something to keep in mind regarding the true cost of the plant.
i bought a completely normal (established) monstera from lowe’s for $25 (it wasn’t in the best shape but i was okay with that) and it’s been putting out new huge leaves like crazy!! but the last leaf actually had some variegation on it!! i’m super shocked and i’m keeping my hopes very low for future leaves having variegation but i’m super flabbergasted as to how this happened lol
I have an albo established plant coming.. I'm so nervous!
how did this work out for you? i hope you have a happy thriving plant!
Cuttings are 100+ in the United states. Plants are easily 200-400$
Seriously!
witchery 97 this is true. Looked for over a year for mine and ended up spending $300 on my albo borsigiana
Yup!
I have just bought one for 145 pounds, coming from Norway. Full plant.
Really!?? Here in The Netherlands you can buy one (a small plant) for like €30,-. Which is like about 40 dollars.
Great information, thank you. You answered so many questions I have had about these two plants. I still don't know which one I want but at lest I now know the differences. Thanks again.
Dipping cuttings in wax is one of the most useful tips I've heard in a long time! What a game changer 👐😁 I have 8 large rubber tree cuttings slowly growing water roots but the ends are also starting to rot, now I think I can chop the rot off and save them!
Rhi Allbee there's a lady on UA-cam her name's Maria and her channel is Maria's Garden. She lives in Florida Porta buntha Florida... Not sure how to pronounce the city she lives in because of her Spanish accent. She uses wood tight glue sold at Lowe's and Home Depot. She grows a lot of succulents herself she has her nursery and she does a lot of desert roses and then he cuts to a desert rose she seals with would take glue and she also seals her cuttings with what type glue. They don't rot that way and you don't have to let the cutting sit out and harden off. Not sure if it would work in water but if you have it around the house or in your hubby's Workshop maybe try that on one of your cuttings
@@kathleenmurphy2379 thank you Kathleen thats a great idea! Ill have to give it a shot, it always seems to be a race between getting good roots started and the stem rotting before that can happen.
Excuse me? What type of wax? I am thinking about vaseline?
Wow you're such a professional! Very knowledgeable and certain
A very interesting and helpful video - again! Now I'm sure that I want a Thai constellation instead of a Borsigiana. Thank you Kaylee!
Just wondering... What made you come to that conclusion?
@@dalescott7810 Mostly because the Thai doesn't convert back into green so I don't have to 'stress' about keeping the variegation
I purchased a cutting of lesser quality than yours for $150 here in the US! I was desperate to add it to the collection so I didn't mind, but I would've loved to have only spent $40. ;) This info is a godsend, I got my cutting in the mail last week so this is gonna help me so much as it gets bigger! It's like you knew. Thank you for all of your hard work and research, as always.
Can you explain more about waxing the cutting?
I'd also love more info - I've seen people "seal" the cut with rooting hormone gel/powder, but that usually has more to do with the hormone than the rot issue
I do it too. To prevent rotting. Very easy but very helpful
@@chloehaulussy4865 can you explain how you do it and with what kind of wax?
Me too! 😊💕
You can wax a cutting wound as soon as it’s made to aid in the prevention of rot or to possibly deter boring insects. I’m assuming she used paraffin. Just warm it up until it’s completely malleable but not so hot that it will scald the plant. Then smear over the wound and let dry.
3 years after u uploaded this vid, here i am..
Very very very useful information..
Thank u so much.
Also, shameful, for i've being so late to start.. But, better than never..
Best plant video EVER! So informative. Answered all of my questions about Variegated Monsteras. Thank you!
Here in Australia- you can basically x the cost you quoted for either one of these by 4 or 5. The price is extortionate! Great video thank you ☺️
Where you did you find it? (Yes i am an Aussie)
@@risasuvanpong5208 Gumtree Ebay
@@bongie555 thanks
Risa Suvanpong If you’re in Melbourne some Bunnings are now selling Thai constellations
@@undestatedperfection I'm in sydney so... Yeah but thanks anyways it's good to know
Very informative video, Kaylee. Thank you so much! 🤗🌹❤️ Now, both varieties are more expensive. I love the variegation of the Albo variegata so I got myself one. Hopefully, I’ll be able to propagate it. 🥰💕
Just gave a speech on Monstera (inspired by you!) for my communications class, love this kind of content!
Just a warning. Thai is EXTREMELY prone to root rot. The plant that I bought was absolutely beautiful. Two days after I bought it I noticed root rot. Over half of the roots had to be removed. I’ve seen countless videos on UA-cam about root rot with these plants but thought it was a result of over watering. It seems like they need lots of care. Maybe this is due to the mutation for variegation? Anyway, I’m currently trying to rehab this plant. Fingers crossed 🤞🏽
Yeah these are crazy expensive in the US right now. A few hundred for a single leaf cutting.
I have recently seen an albo cutting go for $400 Australian dollars in a local plant auction... They are regarded as very rare and in high demand where I live
I'm from Australia as well, the ebay auctions are crazy :(!! Would love to have an albo though! Maybe one day
Someone needs to start smuggling them in hahahahaha We need to give it a year.
Thank you so much for sharing all of this valuable information! I just purchased an Albo, and this really helped me understand the plant quite a bit more.
How are they so cheap in a cold climate like England but so expensive in Australia and the US,, very strange 🤔
Thank you for the video Kaylee! 💚
Kirsty B I think that the nursery might be in Europe. They are relatively cheap in the Netherlands too.
Oh ok thank you, that makes sense. Well they are very lucky indeed. They are silly prices here in Australia 😉
Kirsty B Cant find them here in Florida either and online in the US they’re crazy expensive
Chloé Haulussy can you post a link where you’ve purchased?
I have a cutting gifted to me by a friend and now I know it's an Albo Borsiagna. The cutting may not make it because it was rotting. I just had to cut the stem and put some candle wax and hope thst helps. The one node looks a lil iffy so I am crossing everything that it makes it. Thanks for this great information😊👍❤.
Ahhh rewatching this video cause I’m picking up an established albo and a Thai in only two weeks 😍💕way too excited
Where did you order from?
So so helpful! Thank you!! I love them both!
Thanks for sharing great 👍 info including the US currency conversion
I am receiving my Thai Constellation today!! So excited happy Friday to me!!
Just love your content! 😍🌱 i would love a video about how to make a Monstera cutting, waxing, general care, plant it and how to cut an albo to keep the varigation ! 😊❤️🌱
i'm from the Philippines and got a juvinile thai consilation with 5 leaves for 1500 pesos ( 28usd), not too bad!
Hendrick Or hi! what store where? i was looking for it ❤️ TIA
Cammie Ortega hey! its an instagram online shop just search @loveleafgrow :)
Just bought my first Thai constellation, I spent ab 200 US dollars on it. It’s a bit bigger than just a small juvenile plant but I still love it do much. Def worth it
I got a juvenile thai constellation for around USD27 at my local nursery here in Singapore, and the next leaf it popped out had fenestrations and was as big as my hand (17cm long)! Probably the higher heat and humidity here helps it along. Love it, despite the fact that I don't actually like fenestrations and liked the whole-leaf look, but it's so cute it doesn't matter anymore!
I bought a cutting with 4 leaves with more white than green for 3,50€ wich are like 4 dollars. I was truly lucky ❤️
That was an awesomely useful and informative video! You really are my no.1 info source these days! 🙏
just bought a Thai i cannot wait for the little sapling to come in. this was soooo helpful! I am on a waiting list for the Albo as well. so cross fingers! thank you!
I recently stopped by a big box store and bought a "split leaf philodendron" for $15. It has two beautifully variegated leaves! Did I stumble upon the holly grail or is this different type of beauty?
is the variegation green? it's probably a sport. meaning it is mutated! very cool
Both of these are more expensive in the US and the Albo Borsigiana is a lot harder to find. One fact I like is that the Thai Constellation is a true Monstera Deliciosa. So if you’ve seen massive ones in a nursery somewhere with the giant 2’-3’ leaves and the ruffles on the back of the stems...yeah same plant but with variegation! (See my profile photo for our local nursery’s non variegated monstera).
I was lucky enough to found a variegated monstera at my local florist, a juvenile plant, quite a big one, of what I think is Albo, for €60 😍😍
Hi, I’m from Indonesia and variegated monstera is very expensive here. Albo borsigiana cost US$ 100 per leaf (not the entire plant), and thau constellation around US 150 per leaf
I (now) own both , and genuinely could not pick a favourite
You’re the best. I’ve been going back and forth between these two to make a purchase. You just made my decision a whole lot easier.
I love your videos they just keep getting better
Thanks Kaylee, good job! I am not sure if this only happened in US. The pirce in Marcari, Esty or Ebay is around $200 to $400 for one or two cuttings. I knew business is business, however, I do hope there are more people can bring these beauties in their sweet home.
loving your channel!!! how about a video on caladium care...
I'd love to hear more about the yellow variegated variety!!
I bought my baby Thai Constellation for $40 us. This is my dream plant and I am super happy with it. I have had it for two months and it has given me two new leaves. Not sure how I am going to handle the size, but I will cross that bridge when I come to it
today I finally got a beautiful albo borsigiana cutting! one beautiful leaf with an healthy aerial root which is about 10cm long! and it only cost me 30€! well with shipping and a heat package 42€ but it's still an incredible price! I'm so unbelievably happy!
Just an update. 2021. I've been scouting these plants for cuttings the last 6 months. Nothing sold less than 400 😒
Watch yourselves when purchasing these plants on Ebay and other auction sites. I found someone in Germany offering what was obviously a Pothos as a Monstera. Don't know if they purposefully did that or they didn't know what they had.
i just orderd variagata albo cuttings for around 40euros. I just bought 2 cuttings. 1 leave each with nice variations an (previous) aerial root with fine roots all wrapped in wet paper. Boxed in a heated styrofoam box for international transportation in winter.
I took me so long to find a shop which was selling them, but now they arrived and i'm happy..
found it in a jungle shop in gladbeck, germany
I LOVE..LOVE Your channel...I have learned sooo much from YOU. Keep up the great work.
I got my albo cutting for 18€....the first leaf was almost not variegated anymore but it grew 2 very balanced variegated new ones 💕
Thank you for all the information in this video. I can't wait to be able to get one of them :) I'll be grateful if I'm able to get both 😍🙏❤
I got my first variegated monster Alob and I’m in love
What is the difference between deliciosa and borsigiana?
I think I’ll wait for the prices to come down.
Look on Etsy. They have a program through klarna that does payments. Just bought a node for $150 but making payments of $48 I don’t see the prices going down for this plant 🤷🏽♀️
Of course you're doing a good job Kaylee🙌
Thank you Kaylee!!
This was a great video 💕 so informative! New subscriber here 🥰 what a beautiful plant omg 😍
Thanks Kaylee. I think I found two Albos for 26.00 but not sure, the shoots are candy striped with green and white and since I have never seen one, I have to wait and see. I found them in poor condition at Walmart so I got a good deal. Thanks!
I've bought a one-leaf-cutting a couple months ago for 35€ and thought it would die because of the medium and moving a lot but now it's FINALLY pushing out a new leaf!
Great video very in-depth and great demonstrations lucky you to have such big beautiful plants and a little baby cutting and a little juvenile one to boot
I have one of each. My Borsigiana was a rooted cutting and had two leaves when I got it. I paid AU$350 for it. My Thai was a bigger plant and I paid AU$295 for it. I love them both!
My Borsigina rooted cutting was $1000AUD and it hurt my pocket haha
Love your video!
Monsteras are sooo expensive in the US and Europe. I live in the Philippines and in here, you can get large thai constellations easily. I got mine for approx 10USD.
@Angelie Marie you can get them from Mindanao. A lot of sellers are in facebook groups. I paid additonal for shipping but the actual plant is around 500-600 php only. Don't buy in Manila it's over-priced.
Holy crap this video is so informative. You literally answered every single question I had in mind. ❤️❤️❤️
Kaylee!! Can you please do a how to care for plants during winter season! It's winter in Australia now, and it's my first one. Hoping my plants can make it through the winter lol 😭
Question: if you buy an albo borsigiana with a node, roots and multiple leaves but the variegation is limited, less than a quarter of the leaf. Is the plant reverting or there is a good chance it will push out a new leaf with some good variation in it?And can you ask to see the root if the plant is already planted in soil?
An albo cutting went from $120 to $600 in minutes tonight here in Western Australia. 👀 bonkers! ☘🌿🌱 Thanks for the info. Your plants are beautiful btw 🤩
I just found a huge Thai Constellation in the woods, growing naturally in nature! Next time I’ll take a picture to show you! It’s really an amazing plant! 😍
pollymenina where do you live you must live in the tropics somewhere and a bird must have eaten the breadfruit they produce because they do produce and that's got it planted in forest
Kathleen Murphy I live in Bahia, Brazil. Here there is a few places with preserved Mata Atlântica, which was never touched by the man. I was amazed cause I have never realized that plant was there, in the middle of the city. Even thought I live in the tropics, they’re hard to find for sell as it is to you. I’ve never seen it in stores!
Thank you very much. I have learnt a lot from your video
Just yesterday I received my cutting of Albo monstera and hopefully I also get my Thai constellation! They’re both beautiful!
Very informative and to the point. Thank you so much!
Thanks for that hugely informative video! I live in Sydney Australia, and the going price for a thai constellation about the size of the small one you had there is $300 dollars! (which is roughly 157 British pounds). You can search for the albo one on the marketplaces here, but i have seen a cutting, yes cutting, going for $1000, or about 500GBP :(
This was really helpful. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Great content, love love your videos and topics! More power to you!
These plants prices aren't the same anymore. How things changed in two years! 😱🥺
I don't usually comment videos...Very nicely explained and structured video! Thanks for taking the time and effort of going over every little detail, visual texts and repeating everything so we don't miss anything. You'd make a good teacher :p. Thanks a lot! .. Subscribing in 3....2...1...
I paid $400 for 1 leaf cutting of borsigiana. They are expensive here in Australia 😥
This is so funny! You find this plants on the street all the time I never though they are so expensive. Greetings from Costa Rica
Uhm can you pick one up and ship to US!? 😂
Wish you'd done some footage of the big Albo Borsigiana! Is that big one your plant? It's amazing! Would love to see it properly or see a photo of it!