Seller Couldn't Fix This Rare 2-Stroke Race Quad (WEIRD PROBLEM)
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- I buy a 1986 Suzuki LT250r that doesn't shift. Let's fix it, #Suzuki, #Quad, #2stroke,
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From one Joe to another, might I make a suggestion? You should list the year, make and model on all your video titles. This will help you generate more views in the future. Lots of people come to UA-cam to find "how to" videos for their broken machines. The first thing they type into the search engine is the year, make & model. By listing your machines with that info in the titles, you'll continue to get views from people wanting to see how you did this or that. You might even go back to your video collection and edit the titles to include the info. I want to thank and congratulate you for your hard work at building a great channel. Your videos are a good source at showing the inner workings of engines, transmissions and so forth. Keep up the good work!
I know he would get a ton more views if he did that.
I've been thinking that too. I upvote this
I have suggested this to him a couple times as well. 🤷🏻♂️🙂
no he prefers titles as (no one could fix this),or (seller said).
Search youtube for 1986 suzuki lt250 and you will find this video. (Also a cool Suzuki ad from 1986.) Joe puts the year, make and model in the description. 👍
Your composure after all that turning out so simple of a fix shows your maturity and level headedness…….
That is an 87 it has a power valve that's what that window under the cylinder is
Dam, that was a lot of work only to find a bolt & washer was missing. Great diagnosis Joe!
Happens all the time I build motors and motors I get brought to me will have missing bolts on the inside missing clips no gaskets just silicone I always tell people if you have any doubt in your skills to be able to do the job you're probably better to get someone that knows what they're doing even though you may have to pay them but if you build a built motor that cost you five grand to build and you grenade it and five minutes well now it's would have been more economical to pay someone to do it right and it will pay itself back and dividends down the road
17:27 Joe, you’re half-way to using that spark tester correctly. That tester is designed for you to put a known good (new) spark plug in the far left port, and the test plug or plugs in the 4 ports to the right, and test them simultaneously, then compare results.
but he knows what a good plug looks like what difference does it make xD
@@apet1572 Well, he put a new one in to show us what it should look like, but by itself and in the wrong hole. The tester is designed to fire two or more plugs at the same time (with the good one in the far left hole), and make a comparison, thats why.
It’s at least a 1987 because that was the first year of the power valve engine on them. Also it had the big intake that year. The following years had the power valve but smaller intake.
I had the 1988 version. Upgraded the reeds...pipe and bored it out. Best machine I ever had.
Had a 92. Miss that machine!
I have your 88 🤙
Your pipe was built buy a small company in Cape Giradeau MO called FTZ Performance. He mainly builds in line 4 cylinder motorcycle engines for micro sprints, but back in the day he did a lot of engine work on quads, including building his own pipes.
I’m a truck driver and I enjoy your videos while in the road 👍🏽😩
I do same exact thing
While driving 😲
Yep, you put the phone in the instrument cluster
And i was wondering why when a truck tire explodes on the highway they dont notice it in time before a car behind them gets totaled from tire debris or someone gets killed.😂
@@resdawgs bro 17 out of 18 wheels is still pretty good
It’s honestly so impressive how this guy can seemingly always diagnose and fix any issue he runs into. Wish I could be like that one day.
He showing common issues and fixes you can do this also
Joe is learning by using the best method of all - the hands-on approach trumps all when it comes to educating ones self.
Lots of teaching/learning moments
I think he breaks it before he starts taping. Just kidding
Grab a junky bike and just get stuck in what I did when I first got into MX racing I couldn't afford shop repairs so I did it myself with basic tool then buy specialist tools along the way took me 2 months to first rebuild a dirtbike engine but my dad and his engineer buddy showed me bits and bobs as a kid on my learning bikes he helps me put ktm 85 forks and kx85 swing arm on a 160 race pit bike with suspension and wheels I build Rc's now never had a clue 3 years ago now I scratch build them now I've made a 6kg semi and lowboy 💯 metal plastic cab and over a meter long and full Rc
A Great Opportunity to clean the engine properly and also re-paint items.
Your confidence is very inspiring. Thanks for your time today.
Bud... them screws for shift detent are always locktight glued in ... little heat and they will come out way easier
Love how you didn’t give up and finally figured it out. Awesome job!
My very first quad was the 125, and from there, I went up to the 185 with front suspension (that was quite the luxury), but after that is when the real fun began with the QuadSport 230. I loved that thing. The fun it provided still cannot be put into words. My brother had the '85 Honda ATC 250R which was an absolute rocket ship. I wanted to keep up with him so I traded my 'Sport in for the QuadRacer 250. I didn't have it long until I realized that I made a mistake. The 'Sport was more fun to me, but it was gone and there was nothing I could do about it. Those initial quads from Suzuki were a genius maneuver by whoever came up with the idea of basically putting the front end of a truck onto a three wheeler.
Another great video. You tore that machine down quickly and figured out the cause of gears popping out under acceleration. Mission accomplished. Id replace the piston and rings since it's open. I've said this time and time again.....and ill say it again. This is by far my favorite channel. Love the content. 2Vintage I appreciate your time spent making these videos. I look forward to next one.
This is an 87-90. It does have a power valve. You can see the window on the right side of the motor. The swingarm and frame are also gen 2, which is 87-90, and the seat is also the 87-90 seat.
This guy is a jack wagon. That is an 88-90. Its not an 87 because 87 was the 1st year for the power valve cylinder and had a much larger reed valve compared to the 88-92 cylinder. Its obviously not a 91 or 92 because they don't have the goofy shock linkage like the this one. 🤦🏿♂️
This was a great eye opener. So many things to remember that go to show you that experience is the best teacher. Working on so many different models and makes you have to be a genius. 😊😊😊
I owned one back in the mid 90’s. Great machine and lots of fun.
When 3 wheelers and quads initially took off in the mid 80's it was common to put your foot down for balance like you would on a dirt bike and ride up your own leg. The hair still hasn't grown back.
Excellent diagnosis Joe. Live and learn. You won’t forget that one, and neither will we. Thanks.
so wholesome
Check the oil before you get on it? I had the exact bike and loved it!!! Whatta beast! Good find!👍🏼
Brilliant video Joe watching from Edinburgh Scotland UK 🇬🇧 👏 👍
One of cleanest ones of these around actually ripped around in your backyard years ago. He lived like 4 houses away from you. He had the the lt250 and a very very clean 1988 trx250r.
This and a honda 250r are on my bucket list.
I remember when Honda finally released their Fourtrax 250R. It was nearly 100 lbs heavier than the QuadRacer, but boy, was it fast! I was racing quads as soon as they hit the market, and when the Hondas started to trickle into the track, they immediately began smoking the Suzukis. I raced at Southwick Massachusetts under the lights on Saturday night in the deep sand, and the Suzukis didn't stand a chance against the Hondas (unless they had full-on race-tuned engines). First through something like 14th were all Hondas with nearly all of the 'Zooks following from behind. The Hondas were beyond dominant.
@@stkyfngrszmoothcan’t wait to buy one a family member is gunna sell me an 86 model that’s been stored for a while for only 1400, hopefully I don’t die since it’s my first quad
Excellent video, your patience is commendable,
Nice work on the diagnosis. That’s how we learn. Next time you run across one with that problem you’ll know to check that bolt. I think I’d order up some new Phillips head bolts while ordering your other parts. Not sure if I’d trust them to go another round. I never liked those Phillips headed screws used inside an engine. That’s why also have a 3/8 and 1/2” impact driver like yous, they’re a must for Phillips heads.
Pretty work as per usual. Big thumbs up and keep using whatever tool you have. Cheers from Canada. Keep your videos coming and your foot to the floor. Legendary!
LOVE those 2 stroke motors! More, please!
Ol' Joe loves his Quads almost as much as dirt bikes. Great looking quad, a seemingly basic design, now let's tear it apart
Not a rig it’s a Atv quad rigs are 18 wheels and u been listening to vice grip with his northern rig crap
I had a 91 250r as a kid. It was a blast to ride. I ended up trading it for a 93 kx125 and rode that for about 6yrs when I had a really bad accident on it and it got totaled. Sweet find dude and at a hell of a price as well.
Great video as allways. And great job on the diag you saved me from tearing mine down I was having same issue after crank install and sure enough my bolt had backed out. Big thanks for this video.
Good deal Joe, I have been working on bikes quads and everything else. You got a good deal on the quad. Sometimes it is good to tear down and rebuild a unit. Now you know what you have. I enjoy watching you tear down and rebuild. Problem solving sometimes is a pain but you are doing good.
I can truly appreciate the effort you put into the projects you have 👏
well done that was a tough one
Glad you finally found the problem! Those goofy problems drive me nuts. Great videos!
good diagnosis Joe, I was thinking shift forks . id be a lot happier with this quad stripped and inspected as your doing . least you know it will be right when done should be a hoot
Joe I wasn't screaming at you before you decided to tear the motor down, but man my cousin had one of these things back in the 90s and I swore he had an issue exactly like yours and there was some strange thing he had to do to fix it.. man, at least you're good at what you do and it's no big thing to open a case like this and put it back together.. Plus you got an awesome video out of it.. what a sweet problem to have come across, only took a little time and some fluids and a gasket set! Nice!!
1990 lt250 was my first quad,. I was in the 6th grade when I got it,. I had a Honda CR80 and CR125 but wanted a quad. Some good times!, the only problem I ever had was the dam throttle cable kept breaking,. Had to be replace quite often. Had rear bearing doghouse worn pretty bad when I bought it from a guy at Daniel Boone raceway( local track) he had put a ton of money in it, ran a race and lost so he sold it to me dirt cheap,. Two months later I went bak and took 2nd place that weekend, later to rank 1st 4 more times afterwards,. Then went bak to racing dirt bikes (2strokes) AINT NOTHING LIKE IT!!! Good time fo’sho. 😎🤘
Always enjoy watching your videos !
Something isn't set up properly somewhere. Maybe there's a missing/defective spring or bolt or something similar that's not in place and doing its job. I suggest you check the manual because chances are you're going to find something either missing or out of place.
Great job, Joe! Educational as always!!
Love these videos man!! I’ve learned so much watching
Well done for figuring the issue out
Figured it eventually. Hindsight is always a wonderful thing so there was no way of assuming the problem was the missing bolt until you checked everything else first. But Well spotted!. Great video. Thanks
Arrrrre your the man Joe, Nice detective work. This is why most experienced mechanic’s are follicley challenged.
Absolutely love your videos and learn a lot from you. You are very smart at what you do. Keep it up Chris Australia
Nice Suzuki, enjoyed the teardown and diagnosis!
LOL joe-san, now you know next time is just to remove that cover and check if it has the bolt :D glad to know you found it! I was just seeing the progress bar in the video and stressing out if you were able to find the issue. always a pleasure to see your videos and explanations.
AAen is one of the biggest names in the porting world, they make great pipes , great port work and if I remember correctly they make there own cylinders
Yeah! A Norwegian dude. Olav aaen.
Oh yeah!!! They've done it all including their own v-4 two-stroker. Had a set of their twin pipes for an old arctic cat wildcat 650 at one time. We were using the engine for mini modified tractor pulling and we sent him the specs of the motor and how the pipes needed to route and he hand-built them one-off for us. It was a great experience dealing with him.
Interesting!! @@ar2043
Good job, that process was a valuable lesson so not totally waste of time.well done
Wowzers....dynamite analysis to the problem.....Man, you're good!!! Appreciate the sharing of some of your knowledge....thank you
I just did a complete bottom end in my ‘08 kx100 and when I put the cases back together after double checking everything I found that it wasn’t shifting through the gears for some reason.
I split the case a 2nd time and found nothing wrong with the initial assembly but I proceeded to uninstall the transmission and all components and started fresh making sure everything was spot on.
Once I put the cases back together it went through all the gears perfectly.
I have no idea what I missed because it had to be something really simple and stupid I am still to this point scratching my head about it.
However, she’s all back together and everything checks out so maybe you may get lucky and reassemble everything making sure you’re not missing anything and maybe, just maybe it will work.
I closely watching this video and I’m in agreement with you that everything looks spot on.
Maybe just take a caliper measurement on the shift fork ends to make sure they are within spec but like you and I think everything does look good.
Good investment ! & Good catch noticing the shift drum bolt was missing.
Wow, nice one, that certainly took some diagnosis. At least the engine will be put back together to your standards, with some nice new parts
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Great work figuring this out Joe!
Not sure how you remain so patient and calm tho...lol
great video and we all learn something new every day. Besides you know what you are doing it was just overlooked. Great job
Good video boss. I always grab the impact drive to remove any of those JIS screws inside the engines. I dont even bother with trying anything else. Especially if they were installed right last time using red loctite. Also if you use a hammer a couple sizes bigger it would help those bolts come out easier. The harder you hit it the better it grabs and the more torque you get. But dont get to carried away those cases can break dam easy sometimes.
Love watching your videos even though I don’t know how to do any of this. I have a 2000 Yamaha Kodiak 4x4. It won’t shift into reverse. Do you know what the fix to that would be?
It’s better the way things worked out in the end bro, now you know that girls mint. Killer work man, keep it up!
Nice job Joe! Never give up, persistence wins the day!
I don't think you wasted your time with the engine, good find!❤
Love the videos! Joe, you should really invest in a hose pick. I've thought about sending you one but I'm not sure where to do that. Lol! But it would make a lot of situations taking these lines and carb boots off much easier. Just my experience at least.
Yep that does suck BUT it was a learning experience now you have another simple fix in your ever growing bag of tricks !!! Like they say you never quit learning stuff !!
It’s hard to call it as a certain year, because you get into a bit of a hodgepodge scenario. That has a later motor the 85 and 86 had internal reed blocks
So glad you made this vid cuz I’m prob buying a 86 trx250r which is similar to this, the one I’m buying was sitting for 10-15 years and he’s selling it to me for 1400 so hopefully it doesn’t need to much
Like a kid in a candy store, Joe! Good on ya for rounding up the Vin... Missed his appearance last time. Pays to research before going in.
Great video mate well you said it probably needs a rebuild now it does but built to your standards
Joe great video, well for us anyway! 😃. Awesome job as usual!! 👍👍👍👍
Next time you will check that before you tear down something that someone else has rebuilt. Oopsy!! Still the best videos to watch on motorcycle mechanics on UA-cam!!!
Thebearededmechanic he's better.
@@biker6991yeah, Craig is a much better bike mechanic.
@@jangles1839 He's certainly hairier .
This is not a good mechanic channel yeah he is decent but far from the best. This is a cheap diy for people that don’t wanna spend the money or use the right tools or proper break in processes just cranks em an revs the crap out of em This is crazy 😂. If you wanna see the best on UA-cam watch upallnight this dude is the best
@@hunterstump9748 Try to be a bit more positive .
Great diagnosis mate
What a score! I had one. Insane bike! Wish I kept mine. Going up big time in value!
Something as simple, been there done that back in the past! Thanks Ray
Nice find, I had no doubts you'd figure it out...
Haha damn, Joe. That one hurt a little. Still amazed at your ability to just tear an engine down like that. My 2 stroke skillzzz growing up essentially consisted of carb rebuilds and coil/spark plug replacement lol. Don't let that farm land go too long without being worked if you still want the option of leasing it out. It doesn't take long before it gets taken over and farmers won't want to pop tires trying to make it useable again. Just a thought you may have already considered. Love the videos bro.
that is so awesome...I was wracking my brain a well.... Dang!! Well now we know! Great job as usual!
Great find!
Really good video those 250 are no joke love the 2stroke content thanks😊
And again I spoke too soon!
Ugh! Good on yah for finding that bro that was a really good find!
People think I’m nuts sometimes when they watch me work on their bikes but being thorough pays off because it can be the most simple thing such as that which will make or break your builds.
Was about to cry and say where is part two, but i now see the video has only a couple of hours up. Its my birthday if i was close i was going to ask you for a good price on that bike! I'm A Fan!!!!!!!
Good job joe. Can’t wait to see it running again
We like a good mystery Joe. Never seen you stumped yet. Thanks for the great content
How do you find these deals . Those deals don't happen in New york
Brother you in fact have the holy grail of them it is an 87 jug on it with a power valve and the difference is the reeds in 87 the intake is much bigger and has 5 bolts 88 and newer they had to cut the intake size to be fair in racing. I've had many of these and there are 10 to15 things to do to make these absolute BEASTS!! Banshee killers! Also dont put the head mounts back on the head studs are very touchy!!!
yeah when he said "No power valve on this motor" i was like, what? lol
I just started the video. You definitely have a ported cylinder. AAEN is a big company and snowmobiling. They also build exhaust systems.
Great video Joe keep them coming
Now that’s a quad worth restoring. Nothing major but taking it down to the frame and sanding and painting the metal parts. Clean the engine. That kind of thing. Nice find 😬
Another great job joe dirt those crack in the cases make them perfect
Chalk it up a learning experience Joe , I figured it was the shifting star I was close but sometimes we have to learn the hard way to learn something new!!
Young man i look forward to all your videos and they are fantastic. Your knowledge on all types of machines is in mind blowing. To all the ppl who put negative comments are just haters joe. You have been doing things your way and man has it pay off. Keep doing it your way. Thanks for all the great content
Love the mis shifts happens every ride😂 great find Joe ❤
Perfect time for a refresh!
Good find I can imagine it took a lot of head scratching to get that one I really don't know if I would have found it or not probably would have eventually it was good that you tore it down cause you can really see what the engine was like inside and of course it looks real good compression was reasonable but doesn't hurt to freshen it up good job and good find
❤ the autopsy! Reminds me of changingdrum brakesthe first time. Spring, sprung and parts went flying?
New to the channel and enjoy a good diagnostic challenge. My question is do you sell everything you fix? I see several bikes in the background of your videos and wonder how you choose what to keep.
You have balance shaft, on the gears are dots for timing to crank shaft gear don’t forget to align dots , beauty of a Quad you got there
I was just going to tell you that lol. Great diagnosis, a little late but better late than never. Definitely enjoy your videos. Thanks.
Experience is not easy and cheap, dear friend, thank you for the good videos you post❤😅
Another great video. Thanks for sharing.
Waiting for the moment the legandary LT500 pops up on the channel. Nice work! 👌
That's a pretty clean quad. It's hard to tell on video but it sounded like it was running pretty good for having a bad plug.
I like that plug tester. That's handy to have and fun to watch when you turn up the rpm's...
That really sucks doing all that work only to find out that it was about a one minute fix., but at least you don't have to
spend a bunch of money on trans parts.