The Difference Between Oil-filled, Panel and Fan Heaters
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- Electric heating is ideal for spaces which aren't connected to central heating systems. Choosing the correct type of electric heaters can have a dramatic effect on energy costs and comfort within the heated room.
Joe Robinson explores the difference between popular types of electric heater - Fan heaters, oil filled radiators and panel heaters. How do different types of heater transmit the heat and what are the trade offs you need to consider when choosing a space heater?
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00:00 Electric heater types
00:30 No heat pumps today!
00:58 Conduction, Convention & Radiation
01:44 Panel heater
02:30 Fan Heater
03:00 Oil filled heater
04:00 Lower touch temperatures
04:20 PID temperature controls
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Is your oil filled Ascot graphite wall mount panel heater available for purchase in the USA?
This video answered the questions I had. Very informative. Thanks.
HMG is phasing out gas so the future is electric whether we like it or not. An acquaintance was to fully renovate a small terraced house in a desirable part of London. A full strip out with insulation under the floor, insulation on the outside walls, in roof incline, shower room in the roofspace, triple glazing, insulated front and rear doors, etc. A highly insulated extension out the back for the kitchen, open plan with an open feature staircase, two bedrooms.
I told him he will not need a full heating system, so no rads on walls. He was having only a shower, no bath. I told him to consider getting rid of gas, saving gas meter space, the standing charge for gas, and get rid of the metal gas mains pipe into the house as they extract heat 24/7 and also taking up wall space. The cost of having agas meter in the place per year, buys a lot of electricity. I directed him to high kW in-line instant electric water heaters for the shower and bathroom basin tap - 11.5 kW is the highest in single phase domestic. I also directed him to aerated Hansgroshe Raindance shower heads which consume far less water, being excellent for instant electric water heaters. I also mentioned instant hot water taps, an electric kickspace heater for the kitchen and underfloor electric heating for the bathroom and/or living room, also an electric towel rail in the bathroom. No heating needed in bedrooms. I mentioned heat recovery extractor fans.
I saw the competed renovation, project finished, impressive, with him pretty well doing above what I was roundly talking about in insulation. He was still going the gas route, until I made him think differently. He did the sums, with space saving paramount in a small house - no big combi on the wall or cylinders. He got an expensive boiling water Quooker tap, for the designer effect as well, however a number of makers make these sorts of taps now and much cheaper. He saved on spending a fortune on a designer electric kettle as well and saves worktop space to boot. He used the Hansgroshe Raindance shower mixer which is rated at 9 litres/min. The shower water is aerated giving the impression of a bigger shower. He also fitted a combination micro-wave/oven to save worktop space.
He said his water bills are minimal as there is little water wasted as hot water is heater at point of use. Making tea & coffee is instant using the Quooker. He has not used the electric underfloor heating in the living room much as the house is so well insulated. The kitchen electric kickspace is used more as it gives instant heat in the morning while making breakfast.
Fitting a gas combi with UFH downstairs and rads elsewhere, would have been more expensive than going the electric route taking up far more space in a small house where space is at a premium. The there is the annual boiler service charge, which can also buy a lot of electricity. All the electric appliances were service free.
I suggested to make provision for a solar preheat cylinder and solar PV panels. He did, fitting in the pipe work all ready. If he goes that route the solar preheat cylinder and inverter will be in a small highly insulated lean-to cupboard built at the back of the house.
In highly insulated/superinsulated homes this must be the way to go now, omitting gas completely.
@eFIXX Is it possible to determine the actual running cost difference between electric radiators and panel heaters? I've got modern panel heaters throughout, they don't cost much to run, but wonder how much saving there would be using electric radiators instead
Given the recent massive increases in gas prices, is it still cheaper to heat a room with central heating as opposed to an efficient electric heater?
Surely the best way of testing a heaters effectiveness is to measure the energy it consumes to heat the room to a certain temperature and for how long this temperature is maintained?
The problem I have always personally noticed with any type of panel radiator is how localised the heat is to the rad, the further from the radiator, the cooler it can be, which can lead to cold spots in rooms as it relies on the convection generated from the air moving over the rad.
Forced convection from a fan potentially creates greater airflow to more evenly distribute the heat through out the room.
But which is the most efficient at heating the room? That would probably be the more useful information to understand during this period of rapidly rising energy costs?
Although I wonder if the most cost effective way to keep oneself warm is with those 18V battery heated work jackets🤔 😂
Great channel, thank you for all the well thought out and professional content 👌
I am very interested in thermal imaging, which Hikvision thermal imager is this, so that I can understand the detailed parameters, thank you.
When replacing all old storage heaters in domestic properties ( not just the odd one) is it best to fit digital storage heaters for cost of efficiency and the cost of the units or are oil filled radiators better now? Just wondering as you have to install a seperate power supply anyway as the newer storage heaters take 2 supplies.
Could you do a couple of videos on:
In a world where my gas combi boiler might become redundant. What retro electric products could you replace a combi with to heat water for washing up, showering & Heating home.
+ Inferred heating vs oil filled?
You all do great work,
Cheers
heat pump, you'll need to put your hot water cylinder back in!
@@edc1569yeah exactly! So much more expense, also for insulation which renders the grant useless. Just too much outlay, then there's the faff getting it set up right. I'm looking into ceiling mounted infrared panels with maybe an electric radiator for back up and drying the dogs coat!
Hi liked your video. Can we put oil filled heater on auto setting like if I set temperature 20 and it’s turns off when reach 20 and turn on when less 20 ???
Hi is it best to fill a collum radiator with oil or water I have fitted a 300watt towel element. 800x300x100.
Oil heats up slower stays hoe longer and better electrical insulator 👍
The term of the heat of the sun on a cold winter day is Apricity. So even though it might be cool enough to snow you can still feel the warmth of the sun on your skin.
Which is a more dramatic example of radiant heat.
Can you tell me! What model is your thermal imager?
Hikvision for this video
@@efixx I am very interested in thermal imaging, which Hikvision thermal imager is this, so that I can understand the detailed parameters, thank you.
what about infra-red heating panels?
And what about infra-red heat panels...eh.🙃
Efixx aren't sponsored by any infra-red panel suppliers so why would they promote them over these ones ! 🤔
Just saying.... 😁
We found some interesting ones at FutureBuild and covered them in this video:
ua-cam.com/video/nIc0ntuTYVk/v-deo.html
Zero sponsorship on this one! 😊
@@efixx And have you seen the price of them ones 😲 [I did mention this on that vid].
It would be a case of... you can buy one and then have to just sit there watching it whilst imaging it getting warm as you'd not not be able to do both. Buy one and afford to run it 😅
@@efixx OK thanx
@@Sparks1Plumbers0 granted,but i am searching for the cheapest and best way of heating a room,so if infra-red is better then the models described here,then i would certainly choose for these,infra-red doesnt warm the air,but everything around it,so its more efficient maybe? its like having more heat sources in that room
PID = Proportional Integral Derivative!!
But isn't the electric oil heater dangerous? I heard that it could burn the oxygen in a room, is that right?
No, oil heaters don't burn oil. The oil is heated inside the radiator which then radiates heat.
Electric quiet efficient but 4 times the price of gas. Then if we burn gas to generate electricity, it just doesn't add up.
There's other renewable ways to get electricity, might not be the main heat source in a property but great for a boost or when there's a surplus of electricity. 😊
Put more layers on
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use a ceiling fan ........ if you place the heater high: use it clockwise if you pleace your heater low use the ceiling fan counter clockwise
Plutonium or Uranium would be much more efficient 😉
😂 True, not sure how I'd feel about mounting a plutonium powered heater on the wall..
Lybian Terrorist might find your heater of interest to rob you. 😉
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not a proper test just an advert
All electronic heaters are 100% efficient. All energy consumed is given as heat.
What if it has a fan in it 🤣
True, they all turn the electricity into heat with 100% efficiency, less mechanical losses in the fan, BUT, it depends how you measure efficiency, what you’re trying to do is heat you. So you should look at how much heat energy reaches you.
Not just input into the room?
Yes but a ac is more efficient like 200%
@@electrojessy4270 that's a heat pump though.
True but better more accurate controls help prevent overheating and waste. 👍
just say you are paid by ascot please.
the most efficient heat is the heater with the highest KW rating that you can run, makes no real difference if it is a radiator or a fan heater, they both heat the room and walls. the only difference is how quick the heat is lost, hence the more powerfull heater being more energy efficient.