I havent played SC2 pretty much ever. I played it in middle school a bit about 2 decades ago but I still watch your videos. Very entertaining my friend. My favorite is the marauder rush
Feels like a good followup if the opponent walls off might be some tempest/void ray goodness. You already have a forward location for batteries so why not?
@@Derz9 I get it, lol, it was just a little funny. Scouting for proxies isn't a ludicrous idea either, especially if anyone recognizes they are playing Harstem XD
It’s absolutely the most classic Terran move to complain your opponent’s race is broken, while completely winning. Because in the Terran’s mind, it’s not enough to be winning, they feel they should be winning even HARDER. Usually while they’re completely destroying you with no workers + free money from Mules 😂
They are the types to think that shutter-stepping is the hardest possible micro in this game and they should be awarded a default win for their "skill" 😂
@andrewduan5123 if you lose to an A move protoss army you lost the game before the fight. If protoss army is that much stronger than yours, their economy was blowing yours away.
@@gamingbtc not talking about toss. I’m referring to stutter step. It’s just move- a move -move on repeat. It’s literally the easiest form of micro in the game.
What a coincidence. Last night I played this exact build to beat the AI as fast as possible. Only difference was placing the gateways at the back of his natural. Can't believe this works vs grandmasters.
I've been doing this for long, proxied and unproxied, and I was told it's a garbage build. But mathematically speaking in PvT the value gates can pump is just astronomical compared to the slow and costly terran infrastructure, so it always made sense to me.
You are way better htan me, but I have to criticize some of the Game 3 plays with the pheonix. Terran will always do a 2 base stim push in that situation and you have no splash. You cant be using the pheonix to pick up SCVs and marines, you need to save their energy to pick up tanks/cyclones and try to delay the push until your first splash Robo unit come out. If those pheonix delayed the push 10 seconds and you lifted the tanks, you likely connect on a disruptor shot and kill all the marines and are in a 10x better position. I am just a lowly D1 though
The Protoss bro D guy is 💯 correct in every way. Firstly, the Bunker was not blind. Bro D scouts the proxy Gateways with an SCV at 2 minutes exactly, that was visible on the mini map. Secondly, they're laughing because Protoss is supposedly on the back foot after a failed proxy play, then follows it up with tier 3 units from two separate tech branches, neither of which were involved in the proxy. It was a very Protoss moment.
Don't let the captain fool you. This is horrible lol. Especially against zerg. Dont.waste your time. Unless your not scouted and you opponent goes for fast expand. And is terran
Captain I love you but I don't think what he did in the third game was insane. You played the same build twice against him. If I was him I would have blind countered the same build as well. You should have brain gamed him and 1 gate expanded and taught him why you don't blind counter regardless. Just my two cents.
Harstem was (effectively) saying that it was embarrassing. As a high-level player, the Terran should be able to find an adjustment to win, without doing a build that loses to everything else. That's what he meant by, "it was insane". Because the Terrans response is very lazy and poor.
I have an honest question, why are people coming up with these "builds"? Making a Proxy gate is with fast zealot is called maxpax. Making now 2 proxy gates with fast units is another revolutionary build?? Honestly this is the first think I always do in every rts game, making the fastest building for units possible and just attack with the first unit immediately to see how much I can achieve. How is this a "build" or even a cheese. Sry guys i didn't follow sc2 from the beginning so I am really curious
Ho No!! not you too!! I've unsubcribed from WinterStarcraft for thing like that. You're like Christopher Columbus claiming he have discovered a NEW land but some pirate knew the spot before him....and some viking went fishing there long time ago ... and o yeah they were already people living there when he arrived :) XD . Please dont claim something is NEW in SC2 when is not. Nothings new here. I do this build (and some variant) for years! I've tapped ''double proxy gateway'' in the search bar and the oldiest video i've find was 13year old!! You can find a 10 year old video of lowko explaining how to deal against a double proxy gateway!! Beside that you're still better then most and i encourage you to continu your good work
It's 2024 and proxy gate is the newest best build!
Harstem is truely a protoss bro D
Yeah? He's been a protons forever
Gaytoss bro 'D
Pretty sure it was "Protoss bro D: " big upset face. Hilarious that you said it back to him after game though
@@caloreen1992 a sarcastic :D is usually more common when whining about balance.
@@ChronycPain maybe. We'll never know for sure unless we find him.. Internet do your thing!
Terran Bro D. The funniest response he could of made. I can't stop laughing about it.
This comment made me start laughing about it again, cheers!
Captain bringing us the daily dose of cheese 🧀 ...such a great time of the day!
I havent played SC2 pretty much ever. I played it in middle school a bit about 2 decades ago but I still watch your videos. Very entertaining my friend. My favorite is the marauder rush
Feels like a good followup if the opponent walls off might be some tempest/void ray goodness. You already have a forward location for batteries so why not?
Terran: *sends scout*
Harstem: WHAT IS THAT AN ENGY BLOCK? BUNKER RUSH? WHO DOES THAT, UGH, SO UNLUCKY
Scout was not taking a normal path is what set him off lol It was being sneaky trying to avoid his standard probe scout timing.
@@Derz9 I get it, lol, it was just a little funny. Scouting for proxies isn't a ludicrous idea either, especially if anyone recognizes they are playing Harstem XD
It’s absolutely the most classic Terran move to complain your opponent’s race is broken, while completely winning. Because in the Terran’s mind, it’s not enough to be winning, they feel they should be winning even HARDER. Usually while they’re completely destroying you with no workers + free money from Mules 😂
They are the types to think that shutter-stepping is the hardest possible micro in this game and they should be awarded a default win for their "skill" 😂
@@Leonhart_93as if pressing hold position-Amove is somehow super technical lol
@andrewduan5123 if you lose to an A move protoss army you lost the game before the fight. If protoss army is that much stronger than yours, their economy was blowing yours away.
@@gamingbtc not talking about toss. I’m referring to stutter step. It’s just move- a move -move on repeat. It’s literally the easiest form of micro in the game.
"The game is unbalanced because my race doesn't hand me a 90-10 win/loss rate for showing up and stutter stepping marines"
someone please clip 10:09 for posterity
What a coincidence. Last night I played this exact build to beat the AI as fast as possible. Only difference was placing the gateways at the back of his natural. Can't believe this works vs grandmasters.
Still has an extra gg that wasnt there from last episode
I was expecting the cut to Gabes stream to see his subtle, and nuanced take on Protoss strategies.
I've been doing this for long, proxied and unproxied, and I was told it's a garbage build. But mathematically speaking in PvT the value gates can pump is just astronomical compared to the slow and costly terran infrastructure, so it always made sense to me.
Epic last game
Strong opponent, i feel little bad for him.
The crow...hope it really top those charts...but I was thinking more like Terminator 6
he definitely meant shield battery on the nexus is broken :D
The new cheese situation is insane
You are way better htan me, but I have to criticize some of the Game 3 plays with the pheonix.
Terran will always do a 2 base stim push in that situation and you have no splash. You cant be using the pheonix to pick up SCVs and marines, you need to save their energy to pick up tanks/cyclones and try to delay the push until your first splash Robo unit come out.
If those pheonix delayed the push 10 seconds and you lifted the tanks, you likely connect on a disruptor shot and kill all the marines and are in a 10x better position.
I am just a lowly D1 though
my boy Harstem coming right at me
The Protoss bro D guy is 💯 correct in every way. Firstly, the Bunker was not blind. Bro D scouts the proxy Gateways with an SCV at 2 minutes exactly, that was visible on the mini map. Secondly, they're laughing because Protoss is supposedly on the back foot after a failed proxy play, then follows it up with tier 3 units from two separate tech branches, neither of which were involved in the proxy. It was a very Protoss moment.
Harstem is also like 1400 mmr above this guy skill wise ...
"even a maphacker wouldn't be this transparent" clear evidence harstem doesn't watch my stream enough
Harstem is the Protoss Adrien Brody
protoss bro d well timed with starting carrier. map hax
How come none of the terrans scout? It would be obvious to spot the proxy
19:14 1k in bank, warp in 10 zealots as meatshield for the colossi?
He only had 2 gates i believe at most 3
@@parksdude ahh ok i didnt look out for that
wasn't 2 gate proxy the build alpha go came up with after thousands of hours of training
This is the utermal build
My daily dose of cheese - all part of a balanced diet.
So many Bold moves cotton
Can we watch this again on iodis
Nice haircut
Don't let the captain fool you. This is horrible lol. Especially against zerg. Dont.waste your time.
Unless your not scouted and you opponent goes for fast expand. And is terran
this looks so simple
what stops a plat gamer from just doing this and getting to like masters or something
protoss bro D
serral is death
I dislike when people try to distrakt with wird comments Düring the match
I know once I asked a guy a question in remarch by mistake then ff cuz I didnt want him to think I was doing that
nice
Are you not goong to cast the grand final from EWC?
My god that third game was bad. Bro D :((((
Protoss vs Protoss is peak boredom. Nobody told Harstem that until now?
Insanely... meh?
: )
Captain I love you but I don't think what he did in the third game was insane. You played the same build twice against him. If I was him I would have blind countered the same build as well. You should have brain gamed him and 1 gate expanded and taught him why you don't blind counter regardless. Just my two cents.
Harstem was (effectively) saying that it was embarrassing. As a high-level player, the Terran should be able to find an adjustment to win, without doing a build that loses to everything else. That's what he meant by, "it was insane". Because the Terrans response is very lazy and poor.
I have an honest question, why are people coming up with these "builds"? Making a Proxy gate is with fast zealot is called maxpax. Making now 2 proxy gates with fast units is another revolutionary build?? Honestly this is the first think I always do in every rts game, making the fastest building for units possible and just attack with the first unit immediately to see how much I can achieve. How is this a "build" or even a cheese. Sry guys i didn't follow sc2 from the beginning so I am really curious
Erst liken, dann schauen 😜
J'ai ri si fort que les voisins sont venus voir ce qui s'était passé. Maintenant, ils regardent aussi cette vidéo 💝
And everyone clapped
Ho No!! not you too!! I've unsubcribed from WinterStarcraft for thing like that. You're like Christopher Columbus claiming he have discovered a NEW land but some pirate knew the spot before him....and some viking went fishing there long time ago ... and o yeah they were already people living there when he arrived :) XD . Please dont claim something is NEW in SC2 when is not. Nothings new here. I do this build (and some variant) for years! I've tapped ''double proxy gateway'' in the search bar and the oldiest video i've find was 13year old!! You can find a 10 year old video of lowko explaining how to deal against a double proxy gateway!! Beside that you're still better then most and i encourage you to continu your good work
There will never be something truly new in Starcraft, only a very very slight variation of something done for years.
You sound freaking miserable my guy
Well He told before He stole that opening! Stop that BS.
That sure is a lot of words, would be a shame if I just didn't read any of them
@@sethmoyer i stopped after he bragged about unsubscribing thinking anyone would actually care if he did this here too. 100k -1 byebye fella