The Best VOIDRAY All in You've NEVER Heard of

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024

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  • @tarvoc746
    @tarvoc746 11 місяців тому +46

    23:22 - Hey Kevin, I've heard there is this UA-camr called Harstem who has a format "Is It Imba Or Do I Suck?" If you write him a little text on why Terran eco is broken and then send him this replay along with it, he'll be able to tell you if you're right.

  • @shootzmcgootz5894
    @shootzmcgootz5894 11 місяців тому +40

    2024 = Year of Harstem. I've been waiting for the Void / Observer combo to open my wallet 😂. Thanks Captain!!!

  • @luminica_
    @luminica_ 11 місяців тому +127

    No longer the best void ray rush I've never heard about.

    • @Karma0917
      @Karma0917 11 місяців тому +2

      Underrated

  • @chir0pter
    @chir0pter 11 місяців тому +34

    that mass immortal hallucination was high tier mind games ngl, perfect time to do it since he had minimal info on your tech & immortals counter stalkers

    • @vinceb8123
      @vinceb8123 11 місяців тому +2

      haha yeah that worked so well :D the instant blink

  • @mauzytv
    @mauzytv 10 місяців тому +4

    "Contrary to popular belief, Immortals don't shoot up" XDDDD

  • @Markfr0mCanada
    @Markfr0mCanada 11 місяців тому +26

    Ah, the void ray years, I remember them well. My favorite race was random, and my favorite matchup in that case was TvP. Silly Tosses would keep Skytossing even after they saw me playing the Marine only challenge. Not kidding, 50 SCVs, 150 Marines, lots of scans, and finally lots of salt.

    • @Fimbu1vetr
      @Fimbu1vetr 11 місяців тому +1

      They didn't think of building colossi, the other unit with the C hotkey

    • @Amoeby
      @Amoeby 11 місяців тому

      ​@@Fimbu1vetr you play on default hotkeys?

    • @Fimbu1vetr
      @Fimbu1vetr 11 місяців тому

      @@Amoeby No. But most production facilities I still have using default hotkeys.

    • @MrFerovac
      @MrFerovac 11 місяців тому +7

      ​@@Amoebyhotkeys?

  • @carlthegamer9215
    @carlthegamer9215 8 місяців тому +2

    It warms my heart to see an old protoss rediscover the joys of mass voidray.

  • @kyle52245
    @kyle52245 29 днів тому +1

    @19:09 I don't know what that sound was, but Hamster should make use of that

  • @marcinnowogorski
    @marcinnowogorski 11 місяців тому +14

    "People telling me my Oracle is top 25 in Europe"
    Jokes that Harstem is able to make while playing on such high level are making me double LOL 😂

  • @somethingsomethingsomethingdar
    @somethingsomethingsomethingdar 11 місяців тому +14

    I want some of that marine armor. Damn boys take a direct hit from a void ray capable of shredding armor and just keep shooting like it’s raining outside

    • @recarsion
      @recarsion 11 місяців тому +2

      It's actually infuriating how good a bunch of simple shooty boys are against the might of the Golden Armada

  • @Hungryj1111
    @Hungryj1111 11 місяців тому

    50:22 that smile across your face... you are one sick puppy! Relishing in his pain.

  • @Miro-h7s
    @Miro-h7s 2 місяці тому +1

    35:39 what map?

  • @kurzackd
    @kurzackd 10 місяців тому +1

    38:17 -- yeah, I could SWEAR so too... Wtf? :O

  • @emjizone
    @emjizone 9 місяців тому

    1:36 How *sadistic* one has to be to want to shake a *broken* hand. 😈😆

  • @icewrack9152
    @icewrack9152 11 місяців тому

    At 13:14 you can see a probe move up the ramp on the mini-map and spot his stargate.

  • @TrevorStruthers
    @TrevorStruthers 9 місяців тому

    Glad to see you are still doing this.

  • @ianjmcdonnell
    @ianjmcdonnell 9 місяців тому

    23:22 is it imba or do i suck?

  • @ro5o
    @ro5o Місяць тому

    At 14 min 38 sec during the game, 29:57 of the video, the units lost discrepancy is so little it is astounding!

  • @spagettech
    @spagettech 11 місяців тому +1

    Loved this video, when i started playing sc2 this was the height of cheese (especially with the batteries like game 3) and id play this every three games or so, albiet at gold. Thanks captain o7

  • @burningsheep4473
    @burningsheep4473 11 місяців тому

    Ahh, I still remember when they used to have 10 +15 vs armored when charged up. And even in spite of having to charge up it was apparently considered too strong and they changed it to 8 +8. Melted buildings like no tomorrow. In the very early days when we were all completely clueless I had a Stalker army absolutely annihiliated by a friend massing Voidrays.

  • @catbertsis
    @catbertsis 11 місяців тому +10

    I like void rays.

  • @KB_13247
    @KB_13247 11 місяців тому

    i can't believe he clawed back in that game 3. i thought he was toast for sure when i saw how many scvs and mules that terran had and finding the expansion.

  • @kurzackd
    @kurzackd 10 місяців тому +1

    48:27 -- would have been worth it to CONTINUE attackin the Nexus, even at the risk of sacrificing ALL void rays in this position, because it was *CERTAINLY* going down, as long as he stayed...
    What a weird move to pull away, honestly...
    .

  • @kenthomas505
    @kenthomas505 11 місяців тому

    Was that Reynor he was talking to? Sounds like him. I think him and Harstem are pulling our legs.

  • @davidvondoom2853
    @davidvondoom2853 11 місяців тому +8

    That last game was giving off some Alarak Death Fleet vibes. 😈

    • @ChannelMiner
      @ChannelMiner 11 місяців тому +3

      the death fleet descends

  • @JFox4587
    @JFox4587 11 місяців тому

    This build was so sick. Not exactly a cheese cuz it was definitely a macro build, but it felt like a really cool old school BGMWSS

  • @ChannelMiner
    @ChannelMiner 11 місяців тому +3

    If ur having trouble against mass voidrays, u can try mixing in some archons with ur stalkers, of course he can out maneuver your slow army tho so watch out for that, but voids always lose to archons in a straight up fight

    • @djinn_tseng
      @djinn_tseng 11 місяців тому +1

      any time i ever saw voids i just went storm. to shreds, you say?

    • @ChannelMiner
      @ChannelMiner 11 місяців тому +1

      @myselfremade Yeah Storm and upgraded Phoenixes are great too, but with Archons you dont even need to micro lol

  • @ryuranzou
    @ryuranzou 10 місяців тому

    This looks like hell to play against. I am shocked how long your opponents were able to defend against that hell.

  • @KaplaBen
    @KaplaBen 10 місяців тому

    As a creature from the sea of the type "other", I feel left out

  • @minionminion6480
    @minionminion6480 11 місяців тому +6

    everything what terran can make counters voids

    • @alanclw6024
      @alanclw6024 11 місяців тому +9

      Flying tanks, jet pack SCVs, anti-air marauders, atam banshees, no fly zone liberators, and best of all, ravens with seeker missles.

    • @Iseenoobpeoples
      @Iseenoobpeoples 11 місяців тому

      Vikings + Mines

    • @minionminion6480
      @minionminion6480 11 місяців тому

      damn, a true youtuber simp.. copying all his jokes xD instead of being a smart ass try to use ur logic and guess that i ment units what actually can damage air units. I am a terran main, im not crying ;)@@alanclw6024

    • @enymus3081
      @enymus3081 11 місяців тому +1

      I vote for the Flying tans 👍@@alanclw6024

    • @dpend
      @dpend 10 місяців тому

      They nerfed void rays into the ground because people were salty about dying to proxy void ray + battery cheese. Now practically useless unit

  • @kittyflier8338
    @kittyflier8338 11 місяців тому

    Last game, why the opponent doesn't make high templars and archons?

  • @realdomdom
    @realdomdom 11 місяців тому

    The King at it again

  • @miza6
    @miza6 11 місяців тому

    awesome, would it do well against zerg?

  • @AntiDoctor-cx2jd
    @AntiDoctor-cx2jd 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm not saying mass VR is viable at the highest level, but I think it's a very underrated unit. It beats most air, I think only kiting vikings can beat VR, and I'm not completely sure if that works with teh speed upgrade. It can handle marines if you abuse the terrain effectively.

    • @norberthiz9318
      @norberthiz9318 11 місяців тому

      mutas, phoenixes and vikings all beat voids very easily, plus marines and hydras all destroye them if they don't have very good support, stalkers can struggle cause they are armored, but most of the time they also beat them. And I didn't even talk about spell casters, fungal, para bomb, emp, and archons all annihilate them.
      Voids can be good in very specific situations like in the game against disc, but they still suck hard in any normal game

    • @AntiDoctor-cx2jd
      @AntiDoctor-cx2jd 11 місяців тому

      ​@@norberthiz9318 Marines do not destroy mass VR. They destroy small numbers of VR, but in large numbers the extra range and terran tip it towards VR. Vikings beat anything protoss but they have to build something.

    • @norberthiz9318
      @norberthiz9318 11 місяців тому

      @@AntiDoctor-cx2jd marines murder voids, voids can't stutter step, so the range difference is irrelevant. Voids also don't have armor, so marines do an absolute shit ton of damage to them, while marines take low damage from voids. Just test it, a big marine ball absolutely deletes any amount of void rays with insane efficiency.
      obv if you camp behind static d and colossi or disruptor they can't run into it, but that is true for literally every single unit in the game

    • @djinn_tseng
      @djinn_tseng 11 місяців тому

      @@AntiDoctor-cx2jdyou forgot marines have stim and medvac support, along with dps that’s just too good all around.

    • @AntiDoctor-cx2jd
      @AntiDoctor-cx2jd 11 місяців тому

      @@norberthiz9318 the range matters. You are just making stuff up. with terrain and buildings, there's plenty of places that marines can't beat voidrays.

  • @technodrone313
    @technodrone313 11 місяців тому +2

    im a big fan of cannon rushing to psi storm

  • @Shadowboost
    @Shadowboost 11 місяців тому

    Goblin was like, no gg?

  • @AntiDoctor-cx2jd
    @AntiDoctor-cx2jd 11 місяців тому

    If you build more zealots with it, the stalkers can't stand still and fight

  • @k3llym0
    @k3llym0 11 місяців тому

    fantastic games hilarious well done

  • @LetalisLatrodectus
    @LetalisLatrodectus 11 місяців тому +1

    Just a friendly reminder that nexi is not a word, the plural of nexus is either nexus (latin) or nexuses (english).

  • @jesseschwab1813
    @jesseschwab1813 11 місяців тому

    did monke olive oil send that medivac empty and get free rent

  • @rahulshah1408
    @rahulshah1408 11 місяців тому

    Did I hear terran is IMBA during game 3?

  • @MrMeoow91
    @MrMeoow91 11 місяців тому

    Void Ray, Mothership and Immortal nerfs killed all the fun of playing Protoss for me.

    • @djinn_tseng
      @djinn_tseng 11 місяців тому

      the lack of any good unit did it for me

  • @tk2070
    @tk2070 9 місяців тому

    Harstem i have to admit after discovering uThermal i think he might be the true cheesiest man alive lmao. I was watching him alot when i found him and i saw some ques vs you and you beat him everytime hahaha.

  • @gillsejusbates6938
    @gillsejusbates6938 11 місяців тому +2

    TRULY TOP 25 EU ORACLE

  • @LegionL-A
    @LegionL-A 11 місяців тому +2

    Silly Protoss thinking he can defeat the "Mon'keigh" with his feeble little Void Rays. The Emperor protects, Battle Sisters and Brothers ✊🦅

  • @darktizzy2812
    @darktizzy2812 11 місяців тому +1

    Happens with passwords for me. I can't remember the password but I can type it.

  • @lblordhass1455
    @lblordhass1455 11 місяців тому +4

    you won last game because of the hallucinated immortals :)

    • @enymus3081
      @enymus3081 11 місяців тому +2

      Stasis Wards and Hallucinations underused to this day in pro plays.

  • @robertblakey7845
    @robertblakey7845 11 місяців тому

    Top 25 oracle EU? Nah i've heard that you're the best Chinese Amateur Oracle user

  • @shootzmcgootz5894
    @shootzmcgootz5894 11 місяців тому

    Seems viable still. Can we see this refined and attempted again? Maybe merge this with The Bob Build

    • @Erebus2075
      @Erebus2075 11 місяців тому

      but all these kinda proofs how imbalanced sc2 is. one should think in a strategy game that doing one unit type thing would always be an easy counter.
      dow as example you can mass T2 or even T3 tanks, even titans; and it will be easy mode countered by its actual counter (melters, missiles, heavy plasma etc. but anything not meant to take down heavy big armoured stuff will have next to zero effect and even having maxed out on such will not even be able to take 20% off a T3 heavy armoured anything before its all wiped; bc actual strategy balance);
      while in sc2 it doesn't matter; just mass ghost into zerglings, or mines into ultralisk, or ravens into air, or nothing but t1 vs. t3 or other such nonesense and you can still do well with the completely wrong units; which shows that the balance is just not right and counters are simply not strong enough.
      as example; banes is supposed to be a hardcounter to mass T1, but yet they die in one grouped shot and easily sniped by the unit they are supposed to counter; so if they where actually created well for a strategy game you would give them ultra armour, making T1 units do no noteworthy dmg; and lower their hp to like 20, meaning that bigger stuff like tank shots that are their counters would oneshot them even with ultralisk armour..
      see it's stupid easy and yet bliztard fails all the way... its hard to keep watching year after year after year, where units counters and unit types means less and less and everything need to counter everything just use a thousind apm and all units becomes absurd; banes split and move in ways tanks can only hit one at a time, marines splits perfectly and becomes immune to banes, stalkers becomes impossible to ever kill, workers with mineral walking abuse becomes stupidly strong and can beat almost all melee units, etc..... it just such a sht balance for strategy; which is so damn provoking when the units are there and its just stupid numbers which anyone with a spreadsheet and decent understanding could do better....

    • @enymus3081
      @enymus3081 11 місяців тому

      You dont get it... It is a mirror matchup, in that case its always viable to mass a single unit.@@Erebus2075

    • @ZC.Andrew
      @ZC.Andrew 11 місяців тому

      ​@Erebus2075 I highly recommend you play another game, if you are so frustrated. There are many to pick from. Why are you here?

  • @raskawell915
    @raskawell915 11 місяців тому +1

    Can I send in an Iodis request with this replay pls the void Ray is TO STRONG

    • @mothrahlurker788
      @mothrahlurker788 11 місяців тому

      The voidray is generally known as one of the weakest units in the game in this patch.

  • @oldoddjobs
    @oldoddjobs 7 місяців тому

    DrogoSmash

  • @quinlamothe5929
    @quinlamothe5929 11 місяців тому

    what if next patch, medivacs can heal mines

  • @gamingbtc
    @gamingbtc 10 місяців тому

    Harstem's Oracle is at least top 500 in Europe...

  • @waterzoip
    @waterzoip 7 місяців тому

    I've always found mules bs; free, you get one every minute, collects 225 minerals over it's 1 minute lifespawn so 3 orbitals gives you 6750 minerals over 10 minutes. They also make you auto-win in case of a base trade.
    Nah terran is fair.

  • @korbex2598
    @korbex2598 11 місяців тому +1

    70+ Void Rays???? Clickbait Harstem??? you are better than this my guy

  • @Liveeruptsuj
    @Liveeruptsuj 11 місяців тому

    I made this request at one point in the comments, so I'm taking credit before I even watch it.

  • @quineloe
    @quineloe 11 місяців тому +1

    I don't get why Vikings are so slow compared to all other air units. It's like F-35s vs WWI biplanes

    • @ZC.Andrew
      @ZC.Andrew 11 місяців тому

      For balance. They'd be so OP if they were the speed of a Phoenix with 9 range.

    • @quineloe
      @quineloe 11 місяців тому

      @@ZC.Andrew
      Mate
      Phoenix 5.95
      Viking 3.85
      There is more than a 2.0 speed difference between these units. But I know why you picked the fastest unit in the game for this comparison.

    • @ZC.Andrew
      @ZC.Andrew 11 місяців тому

      ​@@quineloe Fine, but they're not slow persay; just slower than Phoenix, Corrupters, and Mutas. They also have better range, because they're meant to combat capital ships, not actually AA fighters. It's for balance.

    • @quineloe
      @quineloe 11 місяців тому

      Why such a short list? They're also slower than warp prisms and void rays. They're slightly faster than Colossi and Tempests, so they can still easily retreat from them. Vikings can only fight if the opponent fights, too.@@ZC.Andrew

    • @ZC.Andrew
      @ZC.Andrew 11 місяців тому

      @@quineloe Because of balancing. Range 9. They're faster than anything that outranges them, and slower than anything they outrange. They are fine. Do you want Vikings to be faster?

  • @hiramrichmond3341
    @hiramrichmond3341 11 місяців тому +3

    Title is now innaccurate

  • @offeratzitz8329
    @offeratzitz8329 11 місяців тому

    You should add a third counter - total games played. So we could see your cheesy win rate

  • @Momo-96
    @Momo-96 11 місяців тому

    Hastem can you make best builds against Zerg and Terran? Trying to climb the ladder and I cannot beat Terran to save my life 😂.

  • @ITechoManI
    @ITechoManI 11 місяців тому

    1:00 - Don't get me wrong ( Not trying to be angry or anything like that ), but Kyiv has different pronunciation. Its closer to "kih-yeev" (K that is closer to English's K, short I; also kind-of like uh ). Hard to say its pronunciation 100% in a text, so a better way of knowing how to say it is either by opening Wikipedia and listening to Ukranian version of it.
    Kiev, and the way how you pronounced it, either refers to 15th century capital of Kievskaya Rus, or Soviet Union "modified" name of the city and not how its officially called in 21th century.
    I don't think that WCS and Startcraft 2 existed before 21th century, so ... most likely your story was from Kyiv ;-)
    Also, yes, airports get it wrong aswell. They are too lazy to update destination name from Kiev to Kyiv. They still have the old, Soviet-era name for it in most cases. But this is at least more technically-correct, as that was at least somewhat "official" airport city code in 21th century.

    • @munelo1
      @munelo1 11 місяців тому +1

      it's kiev

    • @povilzem
      @povilzem 11 місяців тому

      It's Kijevas, Kijów, Киев, and Київ. As it has been for a thousand years. Each name equally glorious and beautiful for this gem of a city.
      Don't give Muscovy the power of owning your ancestral name.

    • @ITechoManI
      @ITechoManI 11 місяців тому

      ​@@povilzemYes, its all of that. But when you are talking about modern version of it the official way of saying is Kyiv. No one says Londinium ( the predecessor of London ), or Lutetia ( the predecessor for Paris ).
      At the same time no one should forget about historic name of a city, but this names should be used when you are talking about past version of a city.

    • @chir0pter
      @chir0pter 11 місяців тому +1

      This guy was big into pre-Elon twitter and is definitely on reddit

    • @povilzem
      @povilzem 11 місяців тому

      @@ITechoManI You can thank the Grand Duchy of Lithuania for the existence of your national identity another time, my friend.
      In the meanwhile, I'll continue using the traditional Lithuanian name of your capital as I provide quality medical care for the children of your refugees.

  • @jakobtdisbro
    @jakobtdisbro 11 місяців тому

    Bro!

  • @teodorstavac7643
    @teodorstavac7643 11 місяців тому +1

    video before 4 minutes and it have 76 views

  • @Iseenoobpeoples
    @Iseenoobpeoples 11 місяців тому

    gg wp

  • @GinaVee1993
    @GinaVee1993 11 місяців тому +1

    thats cool and all but how about some more zerospace and stormgate content. people are tired of SC2.

  • @Gardstyle35
    @Gardstyle35 11 місяців тому

    thors > all air u can think off, 0 chance

  • @AleksandarAndreev
    @AleksandarAndreev 11 місяців тому

    I actually quit this game because of maphackers. I wish maphacks were forbidden :(

  • @BaronVonCarrot
    @BaronVonCarrot 11 місяців тому

    I quit starcraft along with many others after the voidray buff

  • @HessuPls
    @HessuPls 11 місяців тому

    322

  • @jasonsnitch
    @jasonsnitch 11 місяців тому

    Please more zerospace !!

    • @enymus3081
      @enymus3081 11 місяців тому +1

      No!

    • @jasonsnitch
      @jasonsnitch 11 місяців тому

      @@enymus3081 why not? I thought the video was really entertaining. It performed really well in terms of views and likes. I would think 1 video a week on it would also break pf the metonymy of sc2

  • @aguyinavan6087
    @aguyinavan6087 11 місяців тому +1

    nerds.
    Hello friends.

  • @Erebus2075
    @Erebus2075 11 місяців тому

    WP
    but all these kinda proofs how imbalanced sc2 is. one should think in a strategy game that doing one unit type thing would always be an easy counter.
    dow as example you can mass T2 or even T3 tanks, even titans; and it will be easy mode countered by its actual counter (melters, missiles, heavy plasma etc. but anything not meant to take down heavy big armoured stuff will have next to zero effect and even having maxed out on such will not even be able to take 20% off a T3 heavy armoured anything before its all wiped; bc actual strategy balance);
    while in sc2 it doesn't matter; just mass ghost into zerglings, or mines into ultralisk, or ravens into air, or nothing but t1 vs. t3 or other such nonesense and you can still do well with the completely wrong units; which shows that the balance is just not right and counters are simply not strong enough.
    as example; banes is supposed to be a hardcounter to mass T1, but yet they die in one grouped shot and easily sniped by the unit they are supposed to counter; so if they where actually created well for a strategy game you would give them ultra armour, making T1 units do no noteworthy dmg; and lower their hp to like 20, meaning that bigger stuff like tank shots that are their counters would oneshot them even with ultralisk armour..
    see it's stupid easy and yet bliztard fails all the way... its hard to keep watching year after year after year, where units counters and unit types means less and less and everything need to counter everything just use a thousind apm and all units becomes absurd; banes split and move in ways tanks can only hit one at a time, marines splits perfectly and becomes immune to banes, stalkers becomes impossible to ever kill, workers with mineral walking abuse becomes stupidly strong and can beat almost all melee units, etc..... it just such a sht balance for strategy; which is so damn provoking when the units are there and its just stupid numbers which anyone with a spreadsheet and decent understanding could do better....

    • @Erebus2075
      @Erebus2075 11 місяців тому

      this should also be shown to scarlett so their new RTS doesn't make the same mistake (though the ultralisk in that at least doesn't seem to die instantly to T1 bc they look at it funny).
      but still again there i see micro being silly good compared to correct composition.

    • @strammerdetlef
      @strammerdetlef 11 місяців тому

      what a wrong blabla

    • @norberthiz9318
      @norberthiz9318 11 місяців тому +1

      That is not how starcraft works, and it should never work like that.
      Harstem didn't just mass a single unit and a move. He played a a very spesific build which forced his opponent to stay on low base counts and have a unit comp that requires good eco to work well, while Harstem was able to expand very rapidly even tho theoretically in a stalker vs void game the stalker player should be the one who gets to expand freely, while the void player is supposed to just turtle. He won the game through execution AND strategy, which is how sc worked since 1998. What you want is to be able to just build the right units and a move with no micro and win. Play aoe if that is what you want because starcraft has always been about excecution first and strategy a close second. It is a REAL TIME strategy game, not a turn based one, so stfu

    • @strammerdetlef
      @strammerdetlef 11 місяців тому

      thank u @@norberthiz9318

  • @nbaumg
    @nbaumg 11 місяців тому

    first