If you follow this method, you need to set the day/date to the previous day, and then advance the hands until you reach the correct day/date and time on the dial. The point is, you can't tell if the watch mechanism is set at 6:30 in the morning or 6:30 in the evening just by looking at the hands. And so, it may cause the day/date display to change 12 hours too soon, or 12 hours too late.
@@tomasu301 I had. I’m too stupid to set watch even not knowing about that thing. And time being a bit off always bothered me. Not sure but I think some new gshocks have Auto time sync so that’s something.
Keep your out for a DeLorean. It might help you back to this time. Watch out for the flux capacitor though. If you get too close it will magnetize your hair spring.
In 4 years of watchmaking I have heard of one very rare movement, that actually can break during this. Modern movements always have a safety mechanism to avoid breaking the watch with setting the date. Standard movements always like the 2824 ect. and also the movement shown in the video has a safety mechanism.
what about *very* quickly winding the time to move the date forward several months because about 2 years ago you didn't know that that's supposedly very bad for the watch and they actually have a way to just skip days and months? asking for a friend. (as far as I know nothing broke *yet*)
If you look up a long Island watch video explaining it, there is a little plastic wheel thing that controls the changing of the two disks, it can snap and make the date/day function not work properly. You won't break the movement, but setting the date will not work. Thats why its advise not to do it, the fix is also easy enough, replacing that plastic part, but will be very costly taking everything apart to replace something that cost less than a few cents.
@@gilbertoflores7397but if you know how to mod a simple nh35 movement which is very easy it shouldn't cost much. A watch maker shouldn't over charge for something so simple.
I just set it to the previous day, then use the hands to move the date to today. It's also good because then you don't accidently set the date to 9:00 pm instead of AM
@@ChronometerCheck I wear my granpa's old watch which has a date and day adjustment system and I will make sure to do this every time I need to change anything ❤️🤝
I must admit I got used to winding the time on until it'd moved over to the next day (since it then means I know if it's AM or PM). But I'll remember this one for the future.
some watches only let you set the hour and minute, not the date. my omega does this and it avoids this issue. It also changes the date from around 11:30 to 12:15
Needless to say that no harm to the day/date wheel will be done if you first pull the crown to the hand setting position and then knock yourself out rotating the hour and minute hands clockwise (aka fast forward) until the desired day/date is reached
The guy in this video says that you damage the movement by doing this. I honestly can't believe that he's correct. Otherwise the watch is constantly damaging itself as it moves forward a day.
There are not many movements that are damaged by this. The 2 movements I know about are the AS5008 and the ETA7750. The Seiko doesn't care. It's possible however that the next date change won't work properly if you set the date between 9 and 3. It's not damaged however - it work again next midnight normally.
I think it's better to just advance the hands in the first date of the month (check the date before advancing, you'll do it only once every 2 months) & for the day, set it manually in the movement safety zone.
ive got a timex weekender, i love it because during daylight savings i can easily bump the hour hand forward or back, and the date is easy to change without messing with the time, since the day funcion is connected to the hour hand.
I usually use the following method: rotate the hands until the date moves forward then continue until I reach 13.00h. Then set the day and date to one day BEFORE today's date. Then advance the hands until the day and date move forward and continue until I reach today's time.
I thought you shouldn't change the time too, so I never changed it in that time too! Thanks for clearing that up for me! and also I had a quartz watch way back that I changed the date at midnight, the watch didn't break or anything, but the date changing got messed up for a while, but corrected itself after a week or too! I'm wondering what specific damages are we talking about here?!
All my watches have Sekio or Miyota movements, and I just set my date to a day before today (Incase my watch is on PM and I’m setting for AM), then I start rolling the time forward after we are within a day Or two of the target. Never had any issues and I’ve been doing this for years. Seems like maybe if you have a vintage watch this may be good advise!
I'm really glad I can't ruin my watch by changing the date. I have a Rolex OysterDate ref 6694. It's a manual wind watch without a quickset date. You have to manually set it to the correct date by progressing the hands. No risk of damage that way.
If it is a normal modern watch you would not break anything. I do not understand why this is such a big topic because it is completely irrelevant for most watches.
@@Florian-Florian Not necessarily true. This is in the user manal even for Seiko watches that use the 4R35/4R36 movement which is very common in their entry-level
My watch can't change the day along, so the trick I use is to go back and forward between 9pm and 12 am, this will make it advance 1 day by only moving between 3 hours. And how I can tell it's on 9 pm? If you turn to 12 and changes the day, so then con back to 9 and forward to 12 and there you go, much safer
That's actually an outdated precaution. Almost every new watch movement, even the crappiest ones can't be damaged by doing that. The piece that moves the date ring is flexible, so it'll not get damaged if you use the crown in the middle of the change.
You can't know, but have to check it out by letting the hands pass 12 o'clock. If the date changes you can continue to 6:30 and at that moment adjust the date/day. After that, you can turn the hands to the current time of the day.
That's all well and good unless you have an amtique rolex that won't let you change the time first because the mechanism is broken and NO ONE will fix it
Accidentally did this to my seiko 5.....now the date begins switching at around 10-10:30 rather than 9 and the day now finishes changing around 3am rather than 4. 😢hope its okay
If you damaged the day or date mechanism then the day or date will not change at all. Your watch is probabli fine since it does change the date, but it could benefit from removing and better repositioning of the watch hands, so it could show midnight right after the date change.. If you can't do it yourself, then any watchmaker can do it for you
On the older navitimers with eta movement you can not change the date during the date change. On the new inhouse breitling movement you can change the date whenever you want.
The front and the back of his watch don't match. The front says 4R36 movement (day/date automatic with manual wind and hacking seconds), the back says 7S26 movement (day/date automatic with no manual wind and no hacking seconds)
If you follow this method, you need to set the day/date to the previous day, and then advance the hands until you reach the correct day/date and time on the dial. The point is, you can't tell if the watch mechanism is set at 6:30 in the morning or 6:30 in the evening just by looking at the hands. And so, it may cause the day/date display to change 12 hours too soon, or 12 hours too late.
Great tip, that is correct! Pinning this so others can see.
I wonder people change to smart watch because of this issue
@@tomasu301 I had. I’m too stupid to set watch even not knowing about that thing. And time being a bit off always bothered me. Not sure but I think some new gshocks have Auto time sync so that’s something.
Damn you need to be a rocket scientist to set your watches 😂😂
@@andrew1898 LOL
Instructions unclear now I traveled back to 1854 and am stuck in a time loop
ok
Keep your out for a DeLorean. It might help you back to this time. Watch out for the flux capacitor though. If you get too close it will magnetize your hair spring.
It happens
Bro no 😢
Drugs are cool too
6:30 is the best time… hands down
AM correct?
Lmao
I hate you lol
@@garyz0611 no. 18:30 PM superiority
Nah, 18:30 superiority
In 4 years of watchmaking I have heard of one very rare movement, that actually can break during this. Modern movements always have a safety mechanism to avoid breaking the watch with setting the date. Standard movements always like the 2824 ect. and also the movement shown in the video has a safety mechanism.
Nice to know, I was a bit worried thinking back if I'd done this
Is that just safety from fully breaking or any damage at all?
what about *very* quickly winding the time to move the date forward several months because about 2 years ago you didn't know that that's supposedly very bad for the watch and they actually have a way to just skip days and months? asking for a friend. (as far as I know nothing broke *yet*)
@@shitfuckershitYou do not damage anything when it is a normal modern movement like this.
If you look up a long Island watch video explaining it, there is a little plastic wheel thing that controls the changing of the two disks, it can snap and make the date/day function not work properly. You won't break the movement, but setting the date will not work. Thats why its advise not to do it, the fix is also easy enough, replacing that plastic part, but will be very costly taking everything apart to replace something that cost less than a few cents.
@@gilbertoflores7397but if you know how to mod a simple nh35 movement which is very easy it shouldn't cost much. A watch maker shouldn't over charge for something so simple.
Have had this seiko for 2 years as a daily wear. Watch is an absolute beast. Punches well above its price point
Oh yeah, I absolutely love it. What strap do you wear it on?
@@ChronometerCheck i got a strapcode jubilee on mine.
Whats the model name?
@@devpratap Seiko 5?
@@shahan484 yeah I searched for it, it has a few other designs as well, will do a image search maybe
I've been getting my friends into automatic watches. Your videos have helped them a lot as I'm not great at explaining. Cheers.
Remember: the watch is DOWN for maintenance
I just set it to the previous day, then use the hands to move the date to today. It's also good because then you don't accidently set the date to 9:00 pm instead of AM
Smart
@@ChronometerCheck Hey, thanks for taking the time to leave a positive comment, even though everyone else left the same comment as me!
@@ricolorenz7307 That's ok, I greatly appreciate you watching and leaving a comment in the first place. Means a lot.
I Set the time to 6:30 and had my beer. Cheers
This actually changed my life literally not capping. Thank you so much
Glad to hear that sir
@@ChronometerCheck I wear my granpa's old watch which has a date and day adjustment system and I will make sure to do this every time I need to change anything ❤️🤝
I must admit I got used to winding the time on until it'd moved over to the next day (since it then means I know if it's AM or PM). But I'll remember this one for the future.
applicable for old watches but not on the new watches with new movement
Not true. I unknowingly tried changing date at 1pm and it felt like the day was stuck.
I just wind the watch, advance the time until the day/date click over, go to 6:30 am/pm whichever is applicable, then set the date.
Seiko's anthracite dial are unbeatable! Just pure beauty! Unmatched!❤
some watches only let you set the hour and minute, not the date. my omega does this and it avoids this issue. It also changes the date from around 11:30 to 12:15
Correct! This is only a potential issue with watches that have this feature called quickset
Needless to say that no harm to the day/date wheel will be done if you first pull the crown to the hand setting position and then knock yourself out rotating the hour and minute hands clockwise (aka fast forward) until the desired day/date is reached
The guy in this video says that you damage the movement by doing this. I honestly can't believe that he's correct. Otherwise the watch is constantly damaging itself as it moves forward a day.
Thanks to the GShock functionality of Muti Band 6, I don’t have to do this…I own a Seiko Automatic and it’s always a pain……
Be aware - THE INSTANT DATE CHANGE WATCHES STILL START THE PROCESS EARLY LIKE 9PM.
You got it! I said 8 pm - 4am to be safe, but technically it's often closer to 9. True!
He covered that point in the video.
Yeah I always progress the hands until the day and date flip over. Then go to 630 for good measure.
Yup, good technique
There are not many movements that are damaged by this. The 2 movements I know about are the AS5008 and the ETA7750. The Seiko doesn't care. It's possible however that the next date change won't work properly if you set the date between 9 and 3. It's not damaged however - it work again next midnight normally.
Thanks
Or you can roll the time around, which will also change the date.
Thi is what i do too. Just roll the time.
Let the good times roll 🎶 😂
Thank you for this, I’ve had my first automatic watch (Bapex) for about a year and never knew I could damage the movement
I think it's better to just advance the hands in the first date of the month (check the date before advancing, you'll do it only once every 2 months) & for the day, set it manually in the movement safety zone.
i wish i had seen this video 2 days ago when i was setting the date. luckily the date has rolled over 2 times so i don’t think anything broken
those grey seatlbelt nato really make a watch pop
Funny thing, I'm wearing the SRPE61(the watch in the video) while watching this video
Same, I just bought it from Amazon Japan. Weird thing is that the days are in English AND arabic. Whyyyy!
ive got a timex weekender, i love it because during daylight savings i can easily bump the hour hand forward or back, and the date is easy to change without messing with the time, since the day funcion is connected to the hour hand.
I usually use the following method: rotate the hands until the date moves forward then continue until I reach 13.00h. Then set the day and date to one day BEFORE today's date. Then advance the hands until the day and date move forward and continue until I reach today's time.
I thought you shouldn't change the time too, so I never changed it in that time too! Thanks for clearing that up for me!
and also I had a quartz watch way back that I changed the date at midnight, the watch didn't break or anything, but the date changing got messed up for a while, but corrected itself after a week or too!
I'm wondering what specific damages are we talking about here?!
What's the exact model? Have you changed the strap? Thanks!
it's a Seiko 5 Sports SRPE61K1 Gray Dial and yes he changed the strap into a gray seatbelt NATO.
All my watches have Sekio or Miyota movements, and I just set my date to a day before today (Incase my watch is on PM and I’m setting for AM), then I start rolling the time forward after we are within a day Or two of the target. Never had any issues and I’ve been doing this for years. Seems like maybe if you have a vintage watch this may be good advise!
I have a modern seiko and this is explicitly mentioned in the manual, so it's definitely still a thing. But hey your seiko is still fine though.
I always set the date before, then set the time and date.
Valuable information! Thank you!
Thank you
Thank you ..I never knew or didn't understand
It’s like a gremlin you can’t feed after midnight
Lmao
I'm really glad I can't ruin my watch by changing the date. I have a Rolex OysterDate ref 6694. It's a manual wind watch without a quickset date. You have to manually set it to the correct date by progressing the hands. No risk of damage that way.
True
Brilliant! Thank you 😊
Can the movement get damaged if the watch has a ghost date position??
Thank you for this. About to buy my first real watch and would’ve broken it if it wasn’t for your advice!
No problem!
Real watches don’t break from day/date adjustment.
@@2K9s It just depends on how the mechanics of the movement are designed.
If it is a normal modern watch you would not break anything. I do not understand why this is such a big topic because it is completely irrelevant for most watches.
@@Florian-Florian Not necessarily true. This is in the user manal even for Seiko watches that use the 4R35/4R36 movement which is very common in their entry-level
Thanks for this quick reference, i forgot the times that mine told me not to change the date.
Thank you for the recent support, everyone! Here's a quick tip for those new to mechanical watches.
I know the time thing and thought it was a useless video until the 630 thing. Tnx!
What watch is that? It's beautiful!
Seiko SRPE61
Thanks! Not a mod. Just a stock SRPE61. Changed the strap, that's all
@@ChronometerCheck thankyou!
My watch can't change the day along, so the trick I use is to go back and forward between 9pm and 12 am, this will make it advance 1 day by only moving between 3 hours. And how I can tell it's on 9 pm? If you turn to 12 and changes the day, so then con back to 9 and forward to 12 and there you go, much safer
I have a seiko automatic too 💪
What strap is that? Do you have a link?
I didn't know this, my Timex Ironman thanks you sir.
I hate it when my GShocks break adjusting them 😮💨
What seiko model is it?
SRPE51
That's actually an outdated precaution. Almost every new watch movement, even the crappiest ones can't be damaged by doing that. The piece that moves the date ring is flexible, so it'll not get damaged if you use the crown in the middle of the change.
This depends on the movement.
So old watches don’t exist anymore?
Thank you, I never knew that.
Good info
And how do I know if the watch stopped at am or pm?
You can't know, but have to check it out by letting the hands pass 12 o'clock.
If the date changes you can continue to 6:30 and at that moment adjust the date/day.
After that, you can turn the hands to the current time of the day.
I don't know if its luck or pure genius when he did that shot, amazing.
6:38pm right now, close enough.
I noticed it wrote "Malaysia" in center back of the watch 😎
Is it gonna change exactly like the calendar? In some month is 30 31 29
That was good to know 👍
That's all well and good unless you have an amtique rolex that won't let you change the time first because the mechanism is broken and NO ONE will fix it
6 would be fine, is the recommendation for 6:30 simply to dummy proof it against someone getting the hour and minute hands mixed up?
Broken a few seikos like this, lol, the 4r got a plastic gear in there that will snap really easily if you forget it just once
Accidentally did this to my seiko 5.....now the date begins switching at around 10-10:30 rather than 9 and the day now finishes changing around 3am rather than 4. 😢hope its okay
If you damaged the day or date mechanism then the day or date will not change at all. Your watch is probabli fine since it does change the date, but it could benefit from removing and better repositioning of the watch hands, so it could show midnight right after the date change.. If you can't do it yourself, then any watchmaker can do it for you
Man that watch is nice
I have a Tommy Hilfiger watch and I used to change the date and day betwen 10am, 12am and it looks that i totally damadged the date
It can only cause damage to automatic watches I don't think that your Tommy is
Great face/strap color combo. Model and link to strap?
Seiko 5 SRPE61K1 Gray Dial with a seatbelt NATO strap
Mine always change instantly at midnight.
They are 35 years old
Iv done this so many times because I work midnights and my watch is fine years later it’s a 1977 caravelle devil diver
Love that watch. Which one is it?
I think it is called the “dresskx” by fans. I saw one recently at macy’s.
SRPE61
Seiko superman
Or buy a watch with out day date
Mines a digital watch, also according to my watch Thursday doesn’t exist Wednesday is just very long
How about just rolling the hours forward if your just two days off ?
whats the name of the clock in the video?
Is this still true for quartz watches?
I always roll the complete time instead of only the date, it takes longer but should be better for mechanism ??
I always roll the time forward to noon and then adjust the day/date
In my case, the shop keeper was like "bada beem, bada boom" there you go sir💀
Owh dayummm....I don't know this on my Seiko 5 Sport 😂.
My watch stated this in the manual, i did it, just didn't know why
Hahah :)
There's Malaysia at the back of the watch. Im so proud im a Malaysian ❤
Seiko makes some of their watches in malaysia!
WTF?
That shows we are cheap
Cheap labors in MY
Same goes for made in VN n China
yeap, the factory is somewhere in johore
I just turn the time so that the day/date is changed then change the time and day.
Would this apply to a Hamilton field day date auto as well.?
Can you recommend some cheap mechanical watches?
Seiko, Hamilton, Junghans, etc.
can anyone tell me what watch this is?
Thanks man
Np!
Is that 6:30AM or 6:30PM?
I've heard 5 is also a good time
Damn that's crazy that I don't need this information because I don't have a high end watch... or at all 😮
Never happend to me on my digital watches.
I prefer wait 6 years to get the same days cicle
Many do this with the Breitling Navitimer as it does not have a fast date set.
On the older navitimers with eta movement you can not change the date during the date change. On the new inhouse breitling movement you can change the date whenever you want.
What Seiko is that it’s beautiful ?
Seiko srpe series. it's nicknamed Dresskx
SRPE51
Which watch is this featured in the video?
beautiful srpe51k1!
is it only apply to day or date settings? Cause I had set hour hands between 9 pm and 3 am, which is danger zone for seiko caliber 4R36.
You can set the time whenever you want. It's really the day/date complication that you can't set when the hands are between 9 pm and 3 am.
The front and the back of his watch don't match. The front says 4R36 movement (day/date automatic with manual wind and hacking seconds), the back says 7S26 movement (day/date automatic with no manual wind and no hacking seconds)
Does this apply to only automatic movement. Does not apply to quarzt movement?
Only mechanical, not quartz!
@@ChronometerCheck thanks 😊 so much .
What's the logic of setting time to 630..????
To me that just sounds like a defect. Especially with the prices watches seem to get to