This Was Almost BAD...$150 Sled Drives For The First Time In 30 Years
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- Опубліковано 8 гру 2022
- I get this 1972 Arctic Cat Panther 340cc sled running and driving after 30 years. #Fixed, #Vintage,
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I was getting these weird looks from my wife of 44 years every time I tried to tell how to fix that carb. (out loud) LOL. I've had hundreds of those apart!! I'm gonna dig through my old stuff and see if I have a box of NOS snow parts. I'm gonna also look and see if I have my old vintage snowmobile repair manual around. I'm by Prairie Farm, WI. Barron County. If I find some stuff I'll try to get in touch with you and give it to you. Worked on dozens and dozens of those old Cats with the T1A,T1B and,T1C Kawasaki engines. Your videos remind of some good times in the garage wrenching on old sleds. Thanks for the content.
Great rebuilt The only thing I would suggest is not to drive it too long without snow. Snow lubricates your slides. Without it, you'll burn them right out.
What you are saying while is true those old sleds were tuff as hell, we beat the snot outta these entire summers before having to change them. Mind you we didn’t really care about then 🤷♂️😂
That is a good point, & I was wondering why he didn't just clean out both of the carbs. At the same time while he had them both apart🤔?, that way they would both be all set and ready to go 👍
sleds with only bogey wheels you can use on whatever. these slide rails NEED snow so they dont melt to the track
@@kollinspencer847 not wanting to pick a fight but we sold these new and did a lot of testing on wet grass on cool nights. The hifax held up fine as long as the grass was damp. The old sleds were tougher than the new ones for sure. Crap we grass dragged for years and I think we only went through three sets of Fax all summer. The cleated tracks were fully open so they didn't stick like the rubber ones. All has to do with proper suspension set up.
ill throw some old grass dragger tricks. Run the track tension as loose as possible without derailing or excess slap. Helps if the grounds wet. If it's a hot dry day we used to run slide rail lubers. They got banned sometime in the 90's because people were running exotic slippery chemicals thru them. I just ran dish soap and water with a little windshield washer thrown in to prevent freeze up. Nothing deadly. Worked great. Also on 50 year old sleds its a good idea to replace all the driveline bearings. They rust up and drag. Also on the old Cat skid frames it's mandatory to go thru the swing arms and free up the swing axles and the arms. Get the lithium grease in there and the rust out. Replace the rear skid shock with a new one. Dennis Kirk still has them last I knew. Once you do that and get the spring tension right you will be surprised how the sled performs. Yea it's only three inches of travel, but three inches is better than 0 if she's rusted up solid.
Awsome ! Glad I got to. Be in it 🤟🏻❤️
Thanks again for selling me the parts sled! It worked out great!
@@2vintage amazing to hear ! Been thinking about buying the panther lol looks like a fun sled
DAMN you have alot of patience when it comes to fixing things !!!!! You should leave your video titles open ended so more people will be curious as to what happens in the end . It's one of the main reasons I enjoy your videos all the way thru . Problem solving is a lost art form nowadays and watching someone run thru a mental checklist of what they should try or look at next is what makes your videos fun .
Excellent Videos. I road these Panther 340's and 440's back in the day. It runs now because of the quality builds then and your skill now. Highly recommend lubing the slide rails with Dawn Detergent if you do not have some/enough snow. A trick we did in drag racing them. Seen a number of tracks and rails ruined by dry running..
Hey Joe, it's running lean....possibly because of the metering diaphragm being a bit stiff. In the meantime though try turning your mixture screws out maybe a half turn or so... turn down your idle speed too. Do the engine a favor and rebuild that carb top to bottom using all new pump and metering gaskets and diaphragm.... you'll be amazed at how much it will idle AND be more responsive to throttle.
Nice work dude ;)
I appreciate you saving and fixing the vintage sleds and 2strokes!! this sled was a keeper and worth more in parts alone than you paid! good score🙏🏼
Stood for 30 years and still rips , so funny after all that work at the end I was like no why's he smashing it up with the digger 🤣🤣
I broke my leg in a bike accident last Sunday and all if been doing is watching your videos helps me keep calm tanks for what you do !
Joe, you have had some great luck with subscriber help!!!! Since you do vintage models, it's always great to show what you need, and the subscriber world will help you out. It's great to see you bringing all these vintage vehicles too life, once again. I'm sure you always run into hard, or obsolete parts. That's the glory of the internet! There are many places you can check to see if a part is available. Great video, thanks for sharing your mechanical genius!
I was sitting here smiling the whole time you were riding! So cool to see you got that old thing running so well again
At about 20:40 after looking into your old fuel tank I see it has a few issues, however here in Michigan there used to be a company who would renew fuel tanks. I’m not sure if there is still a company still doing that kind of work! I believe it was call “Renew” I know it worked because I had it done on several trucks and my boat tanks! They basically rubberized the inside and the outside of the tank if you wanted…… never again had rust or leaks after completed!
Love these old sled videos brings me back to my childhood when most of these sleds were still relatively new . I live in northern Ontario and it's always been a big sledding community. Pretty much everybody has a old machine behind their barn or their garage. One thing I don't miss the old sleds were always finicky.
My father and I owned a 440 panther 1971. They ran kawasaki engines with chrome liners. The formula used to fuse the chrme to the aluminum was not good and these engines burnt down a lot. They could not be bored and a new cylinder was needed.We owned a puma and a ext 440 as well.
Joe I just saw this for the first time That thing is a beast I always wanted one Live life to its fullest Stay safe and God bless
My dad had one like this. I drove it all over the back fields when I was a about 7 years old. Brings back memories. Thanks.
Yoo..
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This man was not lying I had an old 440 cat with a paddle track on it and it would go 65-70 all day long
Those Kawasaki engines were great when they were tight, but had a lot of seal problems. Head gaskets,gaskets under the cylinders, center seals and end seals on crankshafts. Often what appeared to be carb issues was really seal issue.Like any two-stroke they need to be free of air leaks. My first A/C was a '72 Panther 399 cc. Great sled in it's day. Great video !!
Ditto.
If it didn’t need track sliders it will now 😂
Joe there's only 1 thing left for the channel... and now the land is all flat and open... it's time... TIME FOR A HOVERCRAFT....🤪🤪🤪🤘✌🤙
Pretty cool rig there I dig the color combo and glad to see you got it running with the extra mobile. Can't wait to see how it does in some snow👍🏼👍🏼
One of these is up on marketplace in my area for cheap and am thinking of grabbing it.....seems like a cool sled to get going.
Absolutely an awesome sled and great purchase plenty of room for profit on this one! Not sure if you know one thing to be aware of don't run them too much when there's no snow you'll burn those High faxes off and good luck finding more. Need that snow for lubrication
Good job. I had a few of these old Cats with Kawi engines when I was a teenager. I recall that many people converted their machines from the factory Walbro carbs to a Tillotson carb. From what I heard, the Tillotsons were easier to tune.
Absolute brilliant joe can’t believe how good it runs after all that time awesome job mate take care 🔧🔧🔧👌👍
Joe your funny dude. Pealing around without snow lmao. Tracks hit I'm sure now. Lol
I see that you are having some good snowfall this weekend. Please make another quick video of your snowmobile in action. Thanks again and enjoy your weekend.
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Ready for the grass drags now.
You could put one of them pumper ball things that boats use on there to help prime the lines for the future. Love your content I'll learn all kinds of stuff
It was hilarious watching you take off out of frame on the sled.
We used to run old ski whiz and scorpion machines, they were great @ 70 mph on the frozen lake, they all had hourmeters on them
We'll take your word for it I'm sure when you looked in it it's got to look better than the other one
I might have some of those filters in a box .I got a bunch of stuff from a shop that whent out of business. I'll look tonight
Like your videos and some of the stuff you buy.
I have a small trick for those carbies that have multiple plates with gaskits oll over the place, dont take them apart if you can help it, just soke them in a tin with carbie cleaner it it for about twenty four hours and then blow them through with an air compressor, usually ti just melts the old oil that gets left ii it.
The other way is in a sonic clear bath of spirits, something i invested in early on because they work so well!!!
dang you are awesome! cant believe you got this old girl running this good especially from a locked up engine. i bet alot of people wish they had the talent yoi have. i know im definitely envious . 👍
I like all your videos but clicked like this time simply because of the snowless snowmobile ride in the field. Totally something this Michigander would do.
Just a suggestion
Get yourself a set of bass guitar strings.
They work great for cleaning out lines when attached to a drill or just by spinning the brass eyelet on the end.
Cheers
Yikes! It is amazing just how Crusty these older machines can get.
My friend's father bought a 1971 Artic Cat Panther, and while the Dad might have rode it a handful of times, my friend and I rode the daylights out of it. Rolled it at least twice and abused it in every other way possible too.
Think we were 14 and 15 years old at the time. Thought we had the World by the Tail, and would live forever.
We had great fun with that sled though. Fixed it, broke it, fixed it again, and again. Lots of Hard Miles with two Teenage guys having only two Speeds, Fast, and FASTER!
Fond memories, then we had to Grow up, and to be Honest, life has not been quite as Free, or Fun since. But, that is part of finally growing up.
We both learned out to say, "Yes Dear", and so it goes.
Actually Life's been good, and I'm only joking a bit here. Even if I am now as Crusty as your Parts Sled! time Flies, and you don't get any of it back.
Never give up! Awesome Mechanic!
Wow can't believe how good this things runs!! Wish you would of did a top speed run. Maybe when there is some snow on the ground?
Snag up that Scorpion Whip, they were decent running sleds too!
Yes sir I have a 78’
440
Also glad to see everything worked! Thanks for the picture can’t wait for more vids ❤️
I had an old scorpion whip. The motor locked up and I retro fixed a 500cc eltigre Skido with a comet 60 series clutch. Memories,, hole shot monster lol.
Eltigre artic cat sorry
I think you should sell the Butler skid steer and get a mini like a Toro Dingo or Bobcat MT 55. Your truck likes this suggestion. LOL Great Video
Hey buddy that piece that fell off of the side of the motor is definitely important to keep on!! It helps with air movement witch air movement helps keep things cool!!!
How fun is that! Nice work!
Do you think you can do a newer sled like in the 2000’s
i love your style to fixing vehicles good whishes from germany and mery christmas
You can get the filter from Dennis Kirk.
Now that it is running you can change the final drive oil, grease the clutch slides, and grease the suspension.
It will really move then!!
And replace the now nonexistsnt slide rails
I had one of those artic cats when I was a kid. Had a scorpion 440 t.k. whip like the one sitting next to it also. Classic wisconsin conversion.
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Someone needs to buy a couple of flashlights for the late night sketchy pickups
Seeing you riding this reminds me why my back hurts all the time. lol
Tip to move the sleds around: buy some forks for your skid steer and pick it up by the tunnel on both sides of the track
At 42:49 years ago I would install a squeeze ball to prime fuel system! Not sure if this needed on today machines! But two weeks ago I installed one on a ditch witch to bleed system after it ran out of Diesel.
Those squeeze bulbs is what stretches out and ruins fuel pump diaphragms!
I don’t think we had a 340 panther in Canada I’m sure the 340s were called Cheetahs . Cool episode brought back memories
Great job fixing the old sled, looks sweet. but would not recommend riding it without snow. You need the snow to lubricate the sliders and keep your bogeys cool
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If it's that old it probably has rollers.
really enjoying your content. its making me want to start back into these projects again 👍
7:05 now all you need is a time machine to go back and tell all your future sellers to do that….. 😂
On F/C type that fan is critical
Rotax run best just before they blow up lol 🤣
Great videos .Thank you
You gotta get a arctic cat triple. They were awesome
Yes a Indy xlt or something with a
Tripple
Try not to run it much without snow the high fax on the suspension is not getting lubricatedwill run hot and melt off .have 4 of these one a 634 hirth factory mod and 4 inch chrome side pipes, and 1 that ran the Winnipeg race with factory vulcanized track and special suspension with wheels to run when there was a lack of snow and dual fuel tanks
Cool, 🤓👍just discovered your great channel.
Crazy, all those years sittin waitin for you to bring it back to life!!!
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Congratulations the old sled is sweet
I don’t want to tell anyone what to do but having said that Joe you really need to install a Big Fan in your garage wall with louvres that open and close to get the exhaust out. I worked in a building running a power washer on the concrete floor and had to go to the E R for carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s just a thought Joe think about it. You run a lot of gas engines in your garage. Just trying too look out for ya!
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Heat gun works awesome
Sweet sled. Pull the choke once awhile to help clean out carb
There was this Eskimo right, and he was haulin butt on his snowmobile.
Then all of sudden ""bang" it quits running.
He brings it in to the technician.
The Tech takes a look.
Then turns to the Eskimo, and says
"It looks like you blown a seal"
To which the Eskimo replied no, no
"That's frost in my mustache"
Hey Joe one day you should make sled ridding video and hit some trail on the old sleds. Love the videos keep up the good work
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Hope you bring it back and show it riding in snow👍👍👍
Joe those Kawasaki engines they used on those Arctic Cat snowmobiles are the same 340 , 440 same only difference is the bore , other than that all part are interchangeable
...LOOKIN' GOOD, NICE JOB, KEEP SAFE
She's a Lil'rippa!!! Save her for the Snow!!!
This is good for me cuz I got my eye on two 340's arctic cats in my area. One runs and the other doesnt and an older skidoo alpine. Way better gas tank I dont know where u are as Im in North Dakota and there are a few snow mobile salvage yards in the fargo or Aurther area.
Be carefull. Those nylon sliders need snow to cool them. You will burn them out real fast.
Should have bought the Scorpion Whip! Like to see you work on one of them.
Those hyfax are toast...
Joe rawdoggin' the old girl on the gravel and grass!!
Dont forget to connect your primer line on the boot of the carburator because you gonna run lean and gonna suck more air in your gaz mixture i experienced it on a 399 Bombardier Rotax engine and i burned my engine caused of that if you dont use it just plug it tight with a piece of tubing and screw with silicone resistant gasoline
These sleds had Teflon slides that needed snow to cool and lubricate themselves. When you ride then without snow the (hyfax) will be melted very quickly.
Their is something in the line but is moving great find on the tank. The snowmobile is not in bad shape for the part's machine. Frame does not look bad either.
Joe your telling me you can't find those screw on filters , I got boxes full of them
I had that exact model little bit different but same motor and everything when I lived in Minnesota and it was always weird but it seemed to run better whenever I kept the gas tank as full as possible it got below half and just seems like it starts sputtering a little bit but anyway it's been a good old machine but there a little noisy and they don't turn very well..lol
What camera do you use ive started doing kinda like what your doing obviously not to your extent and not as much experience I’m only 15 but I’ve flipped a couple quads and a couple dirt bike and I’d like to start making videos maybe to post a coupl onee but as well as myself when it’s time to put it back together
My first sled was a '72 panther 440. Still looking for one to restore and bring out to vintage rides.
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awsome video!
jeramy rydes put up a video of the same sled a week ago. didnt look like that carb had a filter under it.
Hastings made the best filter for those
Enjoy the channel, but my only comments would be what others have mentioned, that you label the videos so that it is easier to find the videos that are for the same repair, and to do followup videos if you can’t repair or are waiting for parts like this snow-sled. It would be great if you had a partner who came in after them repair and discussed cleaning and restoring the project to see a before & after for separate videos to decide how much money & time to make the project look good. And lastly, you should have your own website to list your repairs for sale. You would have a greater sales base and charge more to subscribers who follow your channel and want to buy the restoration. I see your channel eventually evolving into a restoration channel like American Restoration buying, repairing and restoring and maybe instead of buying have customers pay to have you fix and restore these classic machines
Your skid steer tyre is falling off 😂
I like these videos of you meeting and buying these sleds from these people its interesting
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The colder it is the better it will run. 40 below zero in that thing will give you a ride. I see why People in Wisconsin go to red lake Ice fishing.
Woo hoo hoo 😂😂
Great job!! 🤘🤘
Need to get yourself an ultrasonic cleaner to clean cards and stuff. They are awesome!!!
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The best bit is that it sounds like a chainsaw xD
Put dawn on the sliders to save them in the patchy snow
The crusted carb has a HUGE cut inthe carb boot......you see it clear as day when its on your bench.
I did not think you could ride without snow. I do not know much about snowmobiles. Does it overheat without snow ?
Usually what I do to find out if the crank seals are bad or going on the machine I usually take a handheld propane tank and turn it on and go by the clutch and if the engine winds up you know the crank seals are going I just rebuilt a 467 they are very rare to find usually you find the mx470 and that's how I found out the crank seals were going by using propane handheld tank to diagnose the problem
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This is the difference between youth an old age. I wouldn't run my vintage sled in conditions like this, the young guys can't resist. Of course I am willing to spend the money to get it properly fixed as well. You will know the seals are bad when you burn it down, I will replace mine preemptively. To each his own, at least he is not sitting in a bar. LOL
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