CMP Rifles From the South Store

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  • @BattlefieldCurator
    @BattlefieldCurator  7 місяців тому +1

    🚧 Update 08/15/2024: There are no more M1903 rifles left in CMP stores and they don’t know if they will ever get any more.
    You can check out the CMP website theCMP.org for more info
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    • @wirelessone2986
      @wirelessone2986 7 місяців тому +1

      100 bucks is FREE for that WW1 1918 SLING

  • @dp-sr1fd
    @dp-sr1fd 6 місяців тому +7

    I really admire the facilities and freedoms you guys have in the USA. If this range was in England at that price per day I would there all week in a campervan.

  • @dancortes3062
    @dancortes3062 7 місяців тому +26

    Wow $392 for 400 rounds of 30-06. The North store definitely does not have ammo prices that are so generous. Also $25 for a full day at the Talladega range is a steal. I've seen plenty of ranges where it is $20 per hour for a range that pales in comparison.

    • @Gokiburi777
      @Gokiburi777 7 місяців тому +3

      That’s only a good deal if you’re a millennial and don’t know better. Sorry.

    • @dancortes3062
      @dancortes3062 7 місяців тому +7

      @@Gokiburi777 That is a great mindset to have. Don't buy ammo because you missed buying it or stocking up while it was cheap. Around $1 a round is about as good of a deal you can get these days for military grade 30-06. Lots of people are asking for way more than that. Yeah let me just wait for it to go back down to 50 cents a round, like that will happen.

    • @Gokiburi777
      @Gokiburi777 7 місяців тому

      @@dancortes3062 Aim Surplus has new mfg Priv Partisan for $1.10/ round. $1.00./round for 60-70 year old ammo is not a deal, imho.

    • @Zacharykconrad
      @Zacharykconrad 7 місяців тому

      North store hasn’t gotten their ammo allotment yet. South is still jealous about being the only half of the country to lose a war so they treat the north store like the red headed stepchild.

    • @kevinhendley8524
      @kevinhendley8524 7 місяців тому +4

      @@Gokiburi777where are you getting new 30-06 safe for garands for less the $1/rd in 2024? I’ll wait.

  • @steveb6103
    @steveb6103 7 місяців тому +7

    I bought 5 rifles from the CMP back in the 80s. All came with the nice hard case. My M1903 is dated 1918 also. I paid $150 plus shipping for it and $300 a piece for the M1s. I gave 1 of the M1s to my Navy veteran son in law for his golden birthday.

  • @edwardhawkey5714
    @edwardhawkey5714 7 місяців тому +12

    Hi Dan,
    hi from South Africa. Got to say, we have a lot of advantages out here over the US. We may not get the variety of Milsurps like you guys but when we do, we pay very decent prices compared to you guys. My local range fee, $3 for the whole day. Ammo prices are much the same though. A year ago i got a Type 56 SKS, Rhodesian military import, $420, a Rhodesian FN FAL, $1050, A P14 303br, $200, an Israeli Mauser in 7.62, $600. Licensing is a pain in the butt but doable. cheers and greetings again

    • @brucemiller8109
      @brucemiller8109 6 місяців тому +2

      Dan I have a R4 with ATF paperwork and a IDF Galil civilian DOM 1986. The R4 cost a ton of USD as it was a pre 1986..ive seen R4's in Civilian hands in SA for 2000 USD...here its a 37K$ rifle. Sadly SA has gone the way of America with violent gangs causing much pain and suffering. Both our countries need good leadership and hard on crime and dope dealers.

    • @edwardhawkey5714
      @edwardhawkey5714 6 місяців тому +2

      @@brucemiller8109 Hi Bruce, afraid you are correct, crime is an issue and to be unarmed is becoming a death wish.$37k for a R4??!!! that is horrendous, there are two Galil's on the market right now for around $1000. We can get Dragunovs on occasion for $4,000 to $7,000 and i think that is too expensive. cheers,

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  6 місяців тому

      Hey those are really great deals! Thanks for shedding light on the differences

    • @brucemiller8109
      @brucemiller8109 6 місяців тому

      To be clear the R4 is semi and full auto imported before 1986 when MG laws made it very hard to own a MG. I Love your country and mine , I Pray for better days are ahead for us both.@@edwardhawkey5714

    • @petercollingwood522
      @petercollingwood522 6 місяців тому +1

      I'm from Durban originally. Moved to the US in 2000. I was under the impression private firearms ownership was practically impossible in SA now. Is that not the case? I had to do a police approved training course, provide proof of ownership of a Safe, and get my license from the police for my CZ83 that I carried for several years before I emigrated. Do you still have to jump thru those sorts of hoops? And do you still have the credit card style license with the fake handprint on it? I only realised it wasnt my palm print when I and several of my friends compared ours and found out they were all the same print!

  • @macmccollum6064
    @macmccollum6064 7 місяців тому +9

    How can anyone go to a CMP store and not buy an M1 Garand?

    • @mattschmitt9924
      @mattschmitt9924 6 місяців тому

      Because they spent their gun money on a 1917 at the CMP instead?

  • @life_with_bernie
    @life_with_bernie 6 місяців тому +4

    I was out at that main range this past summer. I went there to see a paver I paid for along with a group of friends as a tribute to a good friend we lost a few years ago. It looks like you gentlemen were very close to it. It's on the firing line at position 36 and honors my late friend SMoAF, who had been a Virginia magistrate, class 3 dealer, and all-around great guy who put himself through law school by being an arms dealer. It was good to be reminded of him on this cold and rainy day here in his former home of Virginia.

  • @SGMBalboni
    @SGMBalboni 7 місяців тому +7

    You guys giving away all the secrets. Shhhhhhhh

  • @randystockton624
    @randystockton624 7 місяців тому +3

    Love the old milsup rifles but they are a little to much for me..... especially for a bolt action can't see paying that much for them....great , accurate, rifles.....and i know you are buying the history when purchasing one...... happy for you guys...

    • @TimothyHudson-z7u
      @TimothyHudson-z7u 6 місяців тому +1

      Yep... I understand and appreciate that the CMP sales fund and support their activities but they seem to be pricing themselves to the point that many folks of lesser means can't afford to do business with the CMP... to bad... milsup used to be a great entry for folks with a limited income.. now its a rich man's sport

  • @SubOhmN8
    @SubOhmN8 4 місяці тому +1

    So is it safe to say CMP is legit?
    I'm thinking about buying one of these from Gun Broker, at $2500 it is a significant investment for me.
    I have wanted an M1 Garand most of my young adult life. Huge history nerd/afficionado. It woukd be an honor to own and care for one.
    If you guys can provide any additional info, or vouch for CMP, I would greatly appreciate it

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  4 місяці тому

      Yes, I have been buying from the CMP for years. A few of my friends have also bought from the CMP. You can check out their website (thecmp.org) and also Google search the CMP forums for information. I made a video a while back about the buying process ua-cam.com/video/lO6QOhCmWnY/v-deo.htmlsi=FhjnL2OsUxq0grry

  • @multitieredinvestor183
    @multitieredinvestor183 7 місяців тому +3

    Just got an expert M1 for my son. Took him 6 shots to zero it at 25 meters then three center 10 ring at 200. The M1 was my first basic trading weapon, it was my weapon in Korea until I got the M2 carbine..

  • @garysmith5781
    @garysmith5781 7 місяців тому +2

    Awesome..I'm gonna visit that store in 3 weeks..got me a brand new unused credit card😁
    Update, May 25.… Never made it to the CMP South, however, I did make it up to the CMP North Store. Awesome experience.. picked up a very nice rack grade M1 Garand, 1943 Winchester, with a 3/3 reading great bore..
    Picked up a Winchester Model 1917, a Cromed out VFW turn in with a 2/2 reading, beautiful rifle great bore and 400 rounds of surplus 30-06.. the icing on the cake, I got a nice CMP hard case for each🙂
    They both shoot great. If you can make it out to one of the CMP stores, it's worth it..

  • @robertspeicher5047
    @robertspeicher5047 7 місяців тому +2

    I use to visit Marine Corp Reserve Armory, hanging around. One day the marines were loading 03 springfields into a crate. I asked " can I help" and was told yes. I got to make three trips, one rifle in each hand. The loading was done. Years later, I realized I may have handled the 03 my uncle might have carried on August 7th 1942 on the island Tulagi. He was a reserve Marine and was in company C of the first battalion of the 5th regiment. His battalion became the 1st Raider Battalion. Was KIA on the first day on Tulagi.
    Around 1988-89 I was at a gun show in Middletown NY and there was a dealer selling " 03s" at 250 each. He had a BUNCH of them.

  • @TimothyHudson-z7u
    @TimothyHudson-z7u 7 місяців тому +2

    South store looks good... North store was just a bit rude when I asked about M1917s... don't think I'll make the trip north...

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  7 місяців тому

      Interesting, I would have never thought since the folks at the South Store and Talladega are very nice… must be that Southern Hospitality thing

  • @michaelkaiser1864
    @michaelkaiser1864 6 місяців тому

    the cmp is a freaking joke.
    over priced, under quality and PAID FOR WITH OUR TAXES.
    I'm guessing you have about 3-4k in the trunk right there.
    pffft.
    Congrats. Yall help keep the prices up on these. Not good.

  • @allanfranklin9615
    @allanfranklin9615 7 місяців тому +2

    Prices are sky high for surplus rifles that were bought and paid for by taxpayers 100 years ago. The government finds way to screw you over at every turn. $700 not too bad? $392 for 400 tounds of 30-06? Was the ammo surplus or new?

    • @blackhawk7r221
      @blackhawk7r221 7 місяців тому

      Don’t look at Cadillacs if you only have Corolla money.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  6 місяців тому +2

      After the range, we were not impressed with the ammo. I didn’t buy it though. and at that price for Lake City 1960s/70s surplus, I wouldn’t have taken the chance.

    • @allanfranklin9615
      @allanfranklin9615 6 місяців тому +1

      @@blackhawk7r221 The money is not the problem. The high prices for a Garand are inflated like classic cars, and if people continue to pay that price, they will.always be high. And I think that saying is "Don't look at Cadillacs with Chevrolet money" but I'm probably a lot older than you.

    • @blackhawk7r221
      @blackhawk7r221 6 місяців тому

      @@allanfranklin9615 I recall working the counter at my family’s gun store back in the 80’s hearing people make the exact same price complaints when we had M-1’s marked at $299 and 03A3’s at $250. There is a certain demographic that will always complain about market price.

    • @allanfranklin9615
      @allanfranklin9615 6 місяців тому

      @@blackhawk7r221 put me in that demographic. It doesnt make the affordability any better. Spend your money as you please. Would be interesting to know if the CMP program that these weapons are sold through turns a profit.

  • @joelgeiser675
    @joelgeiser675 5 місяців тому

    That’s WAY too much for that old crap.
    Glad I bought all my stuff from the CMP about 20 years ago…
    Christ, that’s a lot of money for that old surplus
    And $390 for 400 rds of ‘06???!!!
    That’s just pure BS folks.

  • @jamesmallory5355
    @jamesmallory5355 7 місяців тому +2

    Nice! Just out of curiosity, does your 03 have the usmc marked barrel with the circled s stamps?

  • @royhubbard9075
    @royhubbard9075 7 місяців тому +2

    Great vid Guys, I love that place!! Now that Springfields are available looks like another trip there is on the agenda!!!

  • @jacksonthompson7099
    @jacksonthompson7099 7 місяців тому +2

    Good job on getting that Marine rebuild 1903. Could tell from the round rear sight base/collar and the SA 1942 barrel it was a later rebuild. The barrel vice tool that left marks on the barrels used to rebarrel rifles stopped being used in 1942 cause it was started in 1938 due to many M1903's needing to be rebarreled. As rifles came in for rebarrels etc they would get the rebuild traits.

    • @williamfisher1287
      @williamfisher1287 7 місяців тому

      Take the money spent and buy a better model and today's world wouldn't waste my time

    • @jacksonthompson7099
      @jacksonthompson7099 7 місяців тому +1

      @@williamfisher1287 Makes sense but im positive this guy most certainly has more modern rifles. Its better for the surplus rifles and collecting community as well too know what these rifles are and be valued accordingly because it keeps them in there original states. There is a M1903 out there that was a rifle recovered off of the USS California after it was sunk at Pearl Harbor. It had all the wood but a huge scope and bipod attached. Another USS California recovered rifle untouched non WW2 rebuilt sold for 25K at auction around 2-3 years ago. (May have the sold value wrong cause im going off memory here but it was in the 5 digit range)

  • @humpy936
    @humpy936 Місяць тому +1

    Great video, new subscriber here.

  • @rogerd777
    @rogerd777 6 місяців тому +2

    Outstanding trip guys. I just got my CMP M1917. I already have an M1903A3 (WWII vintage) and two M1 Garands. They are so fun to shoot. I also have a WWII vintage CMP M1911A1.

    • @mattschmitt9924
      @mattschmitt9924 6 місяців тому

      What grade did you get and what are your thoughts? Thinking about going for a service grade.

    • @rogerd777
      @rogerd777 6 місяців тому +2

      @@mattschmitt9924 I got a service grade M1917. I figured it was worth the extra 100 clams. I ended up with an Eddyfield DoM 12/1917. It looks good, but I haven't gotten it to the range yet. I have some dummy .30-06 rounds, so I have cycled those and the action is smooth.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  6 місяців тому

      Nice!

  • @bentoncushing8693
    @bentoncushing8693 6 місяців тому +1

    That's Alabama Yeller Jacket,,,notice the 3006 concussion doesn't bother them

  • @TimothyHudson-z7u
    @TimothyHudson-z7u 6 місяців тому +1

    In addition... North Store doesn't seem to have any where near the inventory and range of selection as the Southern stores... to bad, that costs the CMP business

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  6 місяців тому

      I’m guessing shipping the batches up there might cost a bunch

  • @kaseyturchin4390
    @kaseyturchin4390 7 місяців тому +2

    Just went their today actually, picked out a Winchester rack grade I think, plus one on both readings and only for 880 thats definitely a steal. 1903s definitely looked nice. Staff their are extremely friendly and were a big help for someone looking to join the CMP.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  7 місяців тому

      Yes, the staff is very friendly. Another great thing about the CMP. Good choice on the Winchester M1

    • @wirelessone2986
      @wirelessone2986 7 місяців тому +1

      It's more rare now to have 03's on the shelf I'm really suprised.Csn you check what's in stock online.Or do you have to call to see what they have?

    • @kaseyturchin4390
      @kaseyturchin4390 6 місяців тому

      @wirelessone2986 You can call ahead to see what they have, or their is a forum that gets updated weekly on what's in stock.

  • @GomrRomasg
    @GomrRomasg 23 дні тому

    Brown David Wilson John Perez Mary

  • @DeltaSierra181
    @DeltaSierra181 2 місяці тому

    I want to buy one of those slings in the packaging, where can I order it online?

  • @travisturbeville1341
    @travisturbeville1341 6 місяців тому +1

    I might have to take a trip up there. Only two hours from my house. 700 for an 03 is a good deal.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  6 місяців тому

      Yep, and be sure to check out the CMP South forums before you go there to get an idea of what the inventory is like

  • @sinner175
    @sinner175 7 місяців тому +1

    Take "small arms firing school",AKA "Rifle 101" there. You will have a great time.

  • @thewolfhunter
    @thewolfhunter 7 місяців тому

    Boy then I hit the jackpot on a private sale on my Eddystone M1917 non reimport barrel dated 12-17 that I paid $250.00.I posted my Eddystone on my channel.

  • @John1911
    @John1911 7 місяців тому +1

    That range looks way better than what Camp Perry used to offer.

  • @martinswiney2192
    @martinswiney2192 7 місяців тому +1

    Im born and raised in Alabama and had no idea this facility was this close to me. Thank you. I am ready to get involved in CMP guns. I actually would prefer a ‘03 to a Garand as I already own a nice Garand. Thanks for the info.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  7 місяців тому

      😁🍻

    • @sinner175
      @sinner175 7 місяців тому +1

      Awesome! Take "small arms firing school",AKA "Rifle 101" there. You will have a great time.

  • @999torino
    @999torino 7 місяців тому

    I would like to think that you guys could pronounce Garand correctly some day.

  • @brandynnew
    @brandynnew 7 місяців тому +1

    Does the CMP have cleaning kits for sale like they do slings?

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  7 місяців тому

      I am not sure, you might have to call them or check the CMP forums and website

  • @rickryczkowski6965
    @rickryczkowski6965 2 місяці тому

    All online graded M1s out of stock online. I did order an expert grade. Do you have any insight on future online sales? The M1 service and field grades are gone forever? I wonder if the CMP works in batches and more may drop.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  2 місяці тому

      They come and go in waves… so I’d say keep checking it or if you can, go in store. For in store, check the CMP forums for store report inventory posted by members

    • @rickryczkowski6965
      @rickryczkowski6965 2 місяці тому

      Just returned from the North Store. Got a rack grade Springfield 1943 bolt, 1941 barrel both SA. And a separate stock from that period. Happy.

  • @bjmartin5225
    @bjmartin5225 7 місяців тому

    That guy in Al Capones hat has the of eye a wolf he’s a killer .

  • @bentoncushing8693
    @bentoncushing8693 6 місяців тому +1

    Oh mercy it's so sweet,,,,love that store...

  • @petercollingwood522
    @petercollingwood522 6 місяців тому

    Well hell. Looking at these prices (and the completely insane ones at shows) I guess I'm out of the collecting game now.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  6 місяців тому

      Yea, I’ve noticed the shows have been a lot worse these last few years

  • @tacomeatz
    @tacomeatz 7 місяців тому +1

    F Yeah!

  • @stevewalker4638
    @stevewalker4638 7 місяців тому +1

    Nice

  • @MegaBait1616
    @MegaBait1616 7 місяців тому +1

    👍👍.............

  • @charlesbaker2725
    @charlesbaker2725 6 місяців тому

    There are some rifles in the pipeline. The CMP is built a new retail store in the Midwest.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  6 місяців тому

      Yes I heard about the new store but not any new rifles. The new rifles in the pipeline might make sense because about a year or so ago they made some strict policies about photography and video inside the warehouse.

  • @ReneGuerra-b5y
    @ReneGuerra-b5y 6 місяців тому

    Did you have to bring the proper paperwork with you to purchase ?

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  6 місяців тому

      I did the first time I went just to make sure that it was everything they needed. My friend went with me for his first time but forgot one of his papers. He went through his email and found a copy of it thankfully.

  • @p71collector
    @p71collector 7 місяців тому

    CMP website shows M1903 Springfield rifles are sold out. 😂

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  7 місяців тому

      You have to check the CMP South Forums and Talladega Store forums... online WILL NOT show what is in stock at the store. Employees are not allowed to tell you what's in stock. Generous collectors like Tom (PH68) post the inventory on the forums daily.

  • @laramiecrowder347
    @laramiecrowder347 7 місяців тому

    When you check their website they have no guns but 22s and no others

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  7 місяців тому

      The stores have different inventory. You have to check the CMP South forums daily report to see the inventory of what they have in store!

  • @leederby136
    @leederby136 7 місяців тому +1

    Man, what a great deal!

  • @boblynch2802
    @boblynch2802 7 місяців тому +1

    form...from

  • @reddevilparatrooper
    @reddevilparatrooper 7 місяців тому +1

    OUTSTANDING!!!

  • @sv5813
    @sv5813 6 місяців тому

    Did they have any decent drill rifles?

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  6 місяців тому

      M1917 White painted and chrome metal drill rifles and one black painted and chrome.

  • @Almost_Made_It
    @Almost_Made_It 7 місяців тому

    Do you need to meet all the same requirements to buy in person?

  • @chevrolet355
    @chevrolet355 7 місяців тому

    Do you need to be involved in cmp to shop there?

    • @nlb2000
      @nlb2000 7 місяців тому +1

      Yes, have to have paperwork showing that you’ve shot in a CMP match before you can buy a rifle from them

  • @johnblythe6284
    @johnblythe6284 7 місяців тому

    Is their any CMP stores any other states??

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  7 місяців тому

      Port Clinton, Ohio… and I believe there will be a new one opening up north sometime this year or next

  • @bjmartin5225
    @bjmartin5225 7 місяців тому

    u

  • @richvalenzi6232
    @richvalenzi6232 7 місяців тому +1

    Going there is so on my bucket list

  • @craigpennington1251
    @craigpennington1251 7 місяців тому +1

    These relics are marked up considerably. You guys paid too much.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  7 місяців тому +1

      Have you seen what most shops, gunshows, and auction sites sell them for these days? I’m sure there are cheaper ones out there which could be found with a lot of searching around. The CMP offers these lower than what you’d find at most shops.

  • @edwardwilcosky
    @edwardwilcosky 7 місяців тому +2

    How is it some guys get to shop and pick their guns at a store while most get pot luck through the mail. Close the stores.

    • @nlb2000
      @nlb2000 7 місяців тому +3

      Cry about it…I drove 4 hours to get the pick of the litter for my M1

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  7 місяців тому +2

      some folks fly out there to pick them out. Some people even make it a big roadtrip with friends

    • @edwardwilcosky
      @edwardwilcosky 7 місяців тому

      @@nlb2000 Im not going to cry about anything. Stick your M1 where the sun don't shine. The cmp is organized to benefit a select group of people who make out good.

    • @edwardwilcosky
      @edwardwilcosky 7 місяців тому

      @@BattlefieldCurator the problem as I see it, is that many people have tunnel vision, and assume most people are in similar circumstances to themselves. In my situation, being a low income senior, 1300 and change per month pension, i can't buy a plane ticket to a cmp store. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there are only two stores, both beyond my reach.

    • @nlb2000
      @nlb2000 7 місяців тому +2

      @@edwardwilcosky well buddy, I wish I was 23 when you were…I would have bought heaps of m1 Garands for $100 each….oh and muscle cars for next to nothing that are worth 50k+ now. You grew up in the golden age of cheap guns and missed out…so yes, cry about it

  • @Jeff-fc3tw
    @Jeff-fc3tw 7 місяців тому +2

    It's Bull shit that CMP gets these rifles from around the world for pennies on the dollar, then turn around and try to sell me an M1 Garand for well over $1000

    • @blackhawk7r221
      @blackhawk7r221 7 місяців тому

      Market price. And just who sets the market price? Gun people do by what they are willing to pay. Don’t look at Cadillacs if you only have Corolla money.

    • @Jeff-fc3tw
      @Jeff-fc3tw 7 місяців тому +2

      @@blackhawk7r221 I have Ferrari Money, but im not gonna pay Ferrari Money for a Toyota Corolla. If I could buy a Garand for $100......selling it for $1,300 and acting like Im some Patriotic American Company is just wrong. But then Greed has always been America's moral Compass

    • @blackhawk7r221
      @blackhawk7r221 7 місяців тому

      I recall the same people coming into our gun shop crying when M-1’s were $300 and Marlin 336’s were $179.
      Kept a pink box of Kleenex on the counter for them as we’d invite them to wipe their vaginas. Those same price complainers are the same ones who give you a ton of after the sale grief.

  • @fattywithafirearm
    @fattywithafirearm 7 місяців тому +2

    I need to make a trip and get an M1.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  7 місяців тому +1

      I'm going to make a trip out there again this year... not sure when though

    • @codymartin5431
      @codymartin5431 7 місяців тому

      ​@BattlefieldCurator , let us know if you do. I'm out there usually twice a month shooting whatever I've got. I highly recommend doing their "bring what you got" rimfire matches on the last Saturday of every month. They're a blast and dirt cheap to compete. Just show up that morning with a 22 and they'll send you out to Range 2. Really casual atmosphere.