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  • @2_girls_1_johnson68
    @2_girls_1_johnson68 Рік тому +37

    I just started playing WoW a week ago and this video is solid GOLD for a newbie like me, thanks

  • @souljunkee
    @souljunkee Рік тому +10

    While I may not duplicate your setup, this was an awesome eye opener for thinking outside of the box. Especially for people like me that typically don't.

    • @KippoKupo
      @KippoKupo 5 місяців тому +1

      never duplicate someone's setup. make your own.

  • @MrGnomeLuvr
    @MrGnomeLuvr Рік тому +7

    I've bound Control to Caps Lock (and Caps Lock to Control) for years. My wrist thanks me and actually makes the Caps Lock button worth using.

    • @DungeonCoachGaming
      @DungeonCoachGaming  Рік тому

      I have SOOOOO thoughts to do this many times!!! I might try it!!

    • @gnaty1
      @gnaty1 Місяць тому

      Hey how you bound control to caps lock and caps lock to control mate?

    • @MrGnomeLuvr
      @MrGnomeLuvr Місяць тому +1

      @@gnaty1 There are a bunch of ways to do it depending on your OS or keyboard. If you're on Windows, you can use PowerToys' Keyboard Manager to remap keys. if you're using a Razer or other third party keyboard software, you can usually remap keys there as well. If you're on Mac, I'm pretty sure you can remap keys in the Keyboard Settings. On Linux, same thing.

  • @Yukito590
    @Yukito590 Рік тому +6

    Razer Tartarus - 20 keybinds, + a thumbstick for WSAD - Then if I hold a side Mouse button down with my mouse-hand Thumb, (for either ctrl, alt, or shift) giving 20 more keybinds on the Tartarus. 40 binds is enough for all Classes in WoW. 2nd mouse button I use for Jump. The Tab target button is also located under the thumbstick for EZ tab target. Then there's circle button above it for getting on your mount.
    My keyboard is only used to open Map, inventory, group finder and Chat with

    • @DungeonCoachGaming
      @DungeonCoachGaming  Рік тому

      WOW I love to hear other peoples set up, I wanna look at this Tartarus thing!

    • @bdgcomics9905
      @bdgcomics9905 Рік тому

      I tried to use the thumbstick for a while.. it's just not for me. I had an Orbweaver.. I used WASD on it and used the thumbstick as my modifier buttons but at the end of the day I just swapped back to a regular keyboard and mouse

    • @JerryKellar
      @JerryKellar Рік тому

      Razer Tartarus is the best solution. Using my thumb for movement frees up so many fingers! On a keyboard your thumb is in charge of jumping... I don't recommend using a keyboard for gaming, unless you have to.

  • @biviter
    @biviter Рік тому +2

    You have to have the same hands and brain as me or something, because on wasd binds I have ALWAYS hated pressing 1 compared to pressing 2 or 3, but have never heard anyone else complain about it at all. I've also been wanting to swap to esdf binds for the longest time and finding your channel is going to be what makes me take the leap.

  • @jakspanky
    @jakspanky Рік тому +4

    Just returning after 13 years this is great to help with all the new skills and the quicker pace.
    (Already killed a mouse wheel with the druid HOT spells)

  • @edsorens
    @edsorens 10 місяців тому +1

    With ESDF movement keys, I use the C, V, B, and sometimes N buttons with my thumb. V and B are quite accessible, with C and N being less so. Use your thumb! it's also quite dexterous!

  • @Ganondorf5
    @Ganondorf5 5 місяців тому +1

    My Special Tips:
    - Shift Space: Its perfect for Skills like Backjump, Waterwalk, Slow Fall, etc.
    - Shift Mouse Left Main Button. Everyone talks only about side buttons or mouswheel, but the true hero is the mousebutton number 1. (I dont recommand right button because its making alot of fails).

  • @motyfokol5392
    @motyfokol5392 5 місяців тому +1

    i've been playin wow for more that 10 years. THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE. specially using Caps instead of ctrl or alt? OH MY GOD. i know i'm gonna have a stroke changing my habit BUT IT'S GOSH DARN IMPORTANT.

  • @miravlix
    @miravlix 8 місяців тому +1

    I started playing WoW at release and for MMO's I ended up with SDFC (S and F is strafe not turn, mouse control direction always), qwerty and shift + qwerty, 123456 and shift + 123456. A is interact and G is mouse over interact. Ctrl is mouse over cast, Alt is self cast (Was doing well in PvP in the good old days, when druids was broken for most people, because they couldn't handle the run and gun playstyle. Being able to move, while shifting out of wild shape, to heal (couldn't do that without shifting back then) requires a lot of keys.)
    Alt/Ctrl/Shift + Space is another 3 keys, Ctrl+H was heartstone, though pally cowards needed it central for shield escape.

  • @ChelseaCHICKAPOW
    @ChelseaCHICKAPOW Рік тому +6

    I've been using ESDF since WOTLK first came out forever ago, and everyone I knew that I told thought it was so unusual! But it really is the best way to reach a wider variety of keys comfortably. Glad someone else pointed this out!

    • @bdgcomics9905
      @bdgcomics9905 Рік тому

      100% love having my pinky for QWAZ instead of Tab and Caps lock!!!

    • @mrfragezeichen7734
      @mrfragezeichen7734 Рік тому

      it really just depends on what u can do with you hand xd I personally couldnt play like that cause my pinky cant reach shift on my keyboard like this

  • @bradsimmons1985
    @bradsimmons1985 Рік тому +6

    THANK YOU, this is so much better than anything I have seen, I was struggling w keybinds so bad and this setup is very comfortable! Former keyboard turner and mouse clicker is converted!

  • @Necropheliac
    @Necropheliac Рік тому +49

    The reason that you need to zoom in and out is because in some situations the camera follow doesn’t work well. In M+ dungeons like Court of Stars and Temple of the Jade Serpent there are situations where zoomed out view will block your view by trees or whatever. It’s annoying because as a tank I usually liked a very zoomed out view but i need to zoom in on a few pulls depending on where I’m at.

    • @heroicxidiot
      @heroicxidiot Рік тому +5

      agreed. Zooming in and out on demand with no extra buttons is a life saver as a tank. You always want to have the biggest field of view in case of anything coming such as a patrol or seeing the rest of your group. Course, if all you do is dps, camera isn't really important, which is why he pushes to do that.

    • @SamD2332
      @SamD2332 Рік тому +7

      I use shift scroll for my zoom in and out so I can bind my normal scroll to abilities just throwing an idea if you ever need

    • @bionh
      @bionh Рік тому +2

      Scroll binds are a game changer, and I use shift modifier with em too. Great for forms, mobility, and ground target stuff

    • @Hexaholic
      @Hexaholic Рік тому +1

      I only swap S for my movement Keys rest is Base, I dont use y-h-b or f1, 12 Button mouse and a good macro is all you need

    • @ElShooterMcGav1n
      @ElShooterMcGav1n Рік тому +1

      alt+scroll wheel to zome

  • @Polsson65
    @Polsson65 9 місяців тому +1

    I've always bound CTRL and ALT to mouse 1&2. Makes it super easy to use a modified keybind for any key you can reach comfortably.

    • @nectarpeach2853
      @nectarpeach2853 Місяць тому

      Mouse1(Left-Click) & Mouse2(Right-Click)?

  • @WillyLee23
    @WillyLee23 Рік тому +12

    I like the idea of ESDF. But WASD allows you easy access to the alt modifier with your thumb and being able to hit alt+1-5, alt+QWERTY, and alt+asdf is HUGE

    • @pnksmigge5324
      @pnksmigge5324 10 місяців тому +1

      bind alt to an extra mouse button and you can comfortably use all of them while using esdf

    • @fjorddenierbear4832
      @fjorddenierbear4832 3 місяці тому

      I find Ctrl and Alt inconvenient.
      I use Shift, and for dps spells on my healer specs I use f1 f2 f3 for occasional damage.
      Next step is try to esdf and experiment with binding mouse buttons to modifiers.

    • @WillyLee23
      @WillyLee23 3 місяці тому

      @@fjorddenierbear4832 i made that comment over a year ago, I've since migrated to ESDF and use the two side buttons on my mouse for CTRL and ALT and haven't looked back :D

  • @Viorinx
    @Viorinx 6 місяців тому

    I am so thankful to have found your channel. An American WoW player who speaks intelligibly, clearly, and fluently. God bless you! Can't wait to watch more of your content.

  • @hyderjoonas8425
    @hyderjoonas8425 Місяць тому

    Just started playing again after 12+ years. Great stuff here. I only PvP and play affli main - there’s a lot of spells. I got a 16 button mouse and moved all my movement to mouse (click moves, strafe left is button 1, strafe right is button 2, auto run 3). Movement buttons are actually PL;’O] on my keyboard.
    Gives me a ton of space on my keyboard.
    Still refining it all but don’t want to limit my toolkit because of movement requirements on the keyboard.

  • @cjsnow8578
    @cjsnow8578 Рік тому +7

    Just want to THANK YOU for this video and the beginner video. I've been playing since vanilla and still consider myself a below average player. I started out as a clicker and until I saw your video a few days ago, that's what I've been all this time. I decided to give keybinding a try and after a few days of frustration (it's hard to teach a new dog new tricks) I'm finally getting it. Using keys for spells is easy, getting the movement thing down is a work in progress but even that is getting better. Moving fingers over one key to ESDF is life-changing! Again, thank you so much and keep up the good work. You're fantastic!

    • @DungeonCoachGaming
      @DungeonCoachGaming  Рік тому +2

      DUDE! THank you for letting me know this! I am smiling so big right now! Keep killin it dude!

  • @Sojourner142
    @Sojourner142 Рік тому +2

    how's this for a hot take: rebind D (ESDF movement) away from back, use it for a spell. I did this back in BC and never looked back (though shift+D is back). I generally use it for the spammiest of my abilities. Also generally when I need to back up I tend to just strafe and rotate the camera anyway.
    Also: Backspace for Tier 2 emergency button. Big ol' button you can hit like a big red "Oh shit" button. usually use it for things like health funnel to heal my pet.

  • @Alysinwowland
    @Alysinwowland Рік тому +2

    I have been playing this game on & off since 2004 & I m obsessed with keybinds & mice bindings and what works for me is binding my attacks some utility & movement to the mouse & all utility to the keyboard.
    For my mouse bindings I use scroll up & down, right & left scroll, middle mouse & the side buttons for all my attacks. I have heard people call binding attacks to the mouse as FPS style. The mice I have used over the years was a Logitech m302>g500>g502>g604.
    For the keyboard I use ‘WASD’ and use shift>control >alt modifiers with ‘ 1 2 3 4 5 6 Q E R T F G Z X C V keys.
    These might not be the optimal bindings but they work for me and it works well when playing & switching from multiple class & spec with easy. I don’t think there is a wrong way to bind, it’s just depends on the person and prioritizing their abilities base on which bindings you are using is the important take away from this video.

    • @DungeonCoachGaming
      @DungeonCoachGaming  Рік тому

      I always
      One t9 see how people game, my only recommendation is put 1/2 your rotation 9n one and and half on the other, but i love your set up!

  • @AcMcRevo
    @AcMcRevo Рік тому

    For you, I will change and start using WSAD after 18 years of hardcore playing FPS, racing games, RPG,... You are correct for using ESDF in every possible way, it is kinda and eye opener for me

  • @samh4333
    @samh4333 10 місяців тому

    Great video! I struggled with being a clicker for a while until I knuckled down and forced myself to learn this. I also got a MMO mouse which changed helped a lot.

  • @FuzzyBrick1
    @FuzzyBrick1 10 місяців тому

    I stopped playing in 2007, I can't remember why, but your keyboard setup is pretty similar to how I had mine. I only kept strafing and used mouse clicking to move. Thanks for the refresher. (Bought a steam deck and got sucked back into wow)

  • @PaulRoneClarke
    @PaulRoneClarke 11 місяців тому +1

    Struggle with Shift anything. I have very large hands and I smother the shift key and have to cramp my hand into a claw to make it small enough to use shift. So….
    I use a mouse button as shift. Easy done in a windows 11. I use 1,2,3,4 which I can reach easily. F,E,V. Two extra mouse buttons and a third extra mouse button as shift. Mouse wheel button same as you. Whatever class I am it’s the spell interrupt button. It’s not possible to shift click the mouse buttons. (For me at least) but shift clicking all the keyboard buttons using the mouse/shift rebind gives me 7 extra binds giving me a total of 19 binds. Always have two fingers minimum on my wasd movement so I never lose my bearings.and accidentally find I’ve started f to move right… that used to happen all the time when I used normal keyboard shift. My hand had to adapt so much to access it I’d completely lose my whole hand position on the keyboard.

  • @bdgcomics9905
    @bdgcomics9905 Рік тому

    My freaking KING. I've been using ESDF for 3 years now and people freaked out when I told them. I LOVE that this is the first thing you talk about here!!!
    For me, my T1 buttons are similar, obviously. ESDF movement, QWRTAG rotation. For mouse (I main mage) scroll up is Blink, scroll down is shield (and similarly I put offensive movement on shift/alt scroll up and defensives on shift/alt scroll down. I put Ice Block on shift scroll down and my invis spells are alt scrolls.
    I also consider Z a T1 button which I use for my kick.
    A and G I use as my spam buttons.
    XCVB are utilities.
    Instead of shift for modifiers of QW and A, I use alt with my thumb!! You should try it!
    I actually click on screen buttons for potion/healthstone.
    My 12 button mouse I prefer the bottom row closest to the desk (1, 4, 7, 10) and just use them for big cool downs. (I think a 6 button mouse would be actually ideal!! 12 is too much imo)..
    Tilde is mount, long term buffs (Arcane Intellect) are F keys (F1, F2, etc)
    I bound my camera controls to arrow keys..

  • @Rku1337
    @Rku1337 11 місяців тому

    great video. i played starcraft 2 for a few years and there was a similiar topic there. one idea was to move over to "O K L :" or in my case with a german keyboard "O K L Ö", there you have extra buttons for your thumb and its more ergonomical as you can tilt your keybord a bit. it sure feels strange at first but makes a hell of a difference

  • @chrisjones5529
    @chrisjones5529 Рік тому +1

    I appreciate this video so much, I've been inactive for a few years and just started back up so this was golden. Thanks

  • @noxvannachtmahraut4174
    @noxvannachtmahraut4174 5 місяців тому

    as a returner to mmos in general this was a great help for me as a long time shooter player. i will not try esdf cause me hand falls naturaly on wasd due to year long practice on this default layout so i will stick to that. but aside from that your suggestions made a lot of sense and i like how much you took a thought on that topic

  • @COREcasual
    @COREcasual Рік тому +2

    Nostromo and naga. I gots lotsa buttons and I use the crap out of all of them. My entire ability suite is on my right hand, all my utility/ modifiers/ targeting/ movement keys are on my left.

  • @unudderable6502
    @unudderable6502 Рік тому +1

    I do Ctrl+Shift+Spacebar to mount, I use both Shift and Ctrl modifiers so I'm able to still jump with either shift or ctrl held down, plus it just feels natural to me

    • @nectarpeach2853
      @nectarpeach2853 Місяць тому

      I first tried Shift+Spacebar & Ctrl+Spacebar keybinds, but ran into too many issues when hitting other Shift-modifier abilities while also jumping. Even if rare, I still ran into issues and didnt want them to occur again.

  • @fellbatzen7033
    @fellbatzen7033 Рік тому +4

    Interesting guide! I'll use things from this for sure.
    I won't be switching to ESDF though for a simple and slightly stupid reason:
    QWERTZ Type 1 Keyboard Layouts (Germany, Switzerland, Austria, other european Nations...) have a button for < and > next to the "y" key that sits where the z key is on US keyboards. That makes left-shift rather small, because it uses about 40% of the shift size and reduces the shift-key significantly in size.
    If I move to ESDF my Left-Shift-Modifiers become cumbersome and I use them all the time for mouse-based healing.
    So I don't switch, because I'd have to get a specific "Type 2" Keyboard, which is not a widely used standard. :)

    • @johovr7
      @johovr7 Рік тому

      100% agree on your take here about the keyboard type from a fellow European.

  • @Norfma
    @Norfma Рік тому

    I've actually been playing RDFG for movement ever since I started playing wow in TBC. Never let me down and never regretted it.

    • @Norfma
      @Norfma Рік тому

      Also I disagree that buttons around movement keys are tier 1. In this setup for example, you wouldn't be able to press R without moving your index, meaning you wouldn't be able to strafe right and use your R at the same time, correct?

    • @Norfma
      @Norfma Рік тому

      Now that I think back about it, the strangest thing I'm doing is probably that I'm jumping with H and interrupting with spacebar. Big easy to hit keybind for the important smash!

  • @SweatiestDegree
    @SweatiestDegree 10 місяців тому +1

    I started doing shift alt crtl spacebar stuff and it's a game changer for me tbh :D

  • @ooxOBHOxoo
    @ooxOBHOxoo Рік тому

    Binding something on the mouse wheel was shown to me by a friend 10years ago and it's the most amazing and effective bind someone showed me, to the point my 2 main skills are on it (foreward spin and backward spin) and when I add Shift before spinning, 2 skills of crowd control are binded too.
    And I was using the wheel clic too to bind my interrupt but being a PVP player, sometimes the stress made push the button a little too hard and it was drastically decreasing my mouse life expectancy by shifting the wheel axis, so I don't use this one anymore.

  • @itsprudhvirazz
    @itsprudhvirazz 10 місяців тому

    wow , why the ESDF thought never came to my mind? simple but very effective. Gonna def try. opens up the keyboard nicely, solves lot of issues with WASD setup.
    but gonna take some time to get used to though for sure.

  • @janmajer4662
    @janmajer4662 11 місяців тому +1

    Once I played with my friend and we wanted to try arenas. We were getting our ass kicked and then I found out he had not even one key bind.

  • @Omnyprezinc
    @Omnyprezinc Рік тому +1

    This video is HUGE for me as a new player. Thank you so much!

  • @ryanhoyle1166
    @ryanhoyle1166 Рік тому

    I rarely comment, but this video is awesome. Beginner and juggling figuring this out with a zapped brain end of day, you’ve saved me many wasted hours playing & teaching myself the ‘wrong’ way. Thanks for wasdf too!

  • @loud_v8_noises
    @loud_v8_noises 9 місяців тому +1

    Where I get stuck is deciding if it’s better to prioritize keybinding instant/reactive abilities to the mouse buttons since they seem to be easier when you’re on the move (kiting) and leaving the hardcasted/channeled spells to the tier 1/2 buttons on the keyboard.
    I find it’s very comfortable to have hardcasted spells on the mouse as well but obviously since you have to stay still when casting it makes more sense to leave them on the keyboard.
    Thoughts?

  • @ntsp00
    @ntsp00 11 місяців тому

    The way you went in on us camera scroll wheel users 😂 I guess I just never thought about it but using a modifier + scroll to open up the scroll wheel for abilities makes so much sense

  • @andrewshandle
    @andrewshandle Рік тому +8

    Some completely unsolicited advice: If you are a caster (or a MM Hunter I guess) it's best to have instant casts on Tier 1 and spells with cast times on the numbered Tier 2 keys (so 3, 4 and 5 in an ESDF world, or 2, 3 and 4 in WASD world). Spells with cast times (outside of a select few) requires you to stop moving anyway, so it's okay to use those keys for those. Also, unbind your "back" key, even as a Tank it's not needed, with mouse control and strafe you can get yourself in any position you want and you open up another T1 key bind.

    • @DungeonCoachGaming
      @DungeonCoachGaming  Рік тому +2

      100% love that and agree!!! I do the same with the W and Q key for casted spells vs instants

  • @tlarrieu_
    @tlarrieu_ Рік тому +6

    Great video !
    I've been an ESDF guy for as long as I can remember, and for people not doing it, I greatly recommend.
    Regarding the capslock key, I definitely agree that this should be redefined to something else. I've gone a different path though, as I made it a left-control key, which opens up waaaay more binds, meaning that I can macro many more specific things. For instance mousewheel up is my interrupt, and control mousewheel up is my focus interrupt.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @sebastiangomezbotero7765
    @sebastiangomezbotero7765 Рік тому +1

    Just what I needed the most, watched a couple of your vids past week and swap to ESDF. I've been rolling myself off the map a bunch :D

    • @DungeonCoachGaming
      @DungeonCoachGaming  Рік тому

      You’ll get there lol! All those times just help you learn faster lol 😂

  • @WRGolden140
    @WRGolden140 11 місяців тому

    I am no longer a filthy clicker thanks to this video. I have always known I was at a huge disadvantage because I played back in 2008 and 2009. Finally returned and I decided to commit to Keybinds. We shall see how it goes!

  • @lmao4982
    @lmao4982 Рік тому +1

    tried out esdf, there's a big disadvantage in the distance to tab for tab targeting
    you can edit it of course, but idk if anything is as natural as wasd+tab
    also wasd has the benefit of resting your pinky on shift/ctrl and binding more modified keys

    • @nectarpeach2853
      @nectarpeach2853 Місяць тому

      For casual play, ESDF hasn't been so hard, but as soon as I step into PvP or Hardcore raiding my performance kind of falls apart. Not sure if it's im not used to it yet or the distance from certain keys like tab aren't working for me.

  • @InkDevil999
    @InkDevil999 11 місяців тому +1

    As a WASD user I might give it a go but I still think ESDF is wrong. For WASD I have easy access to the following keys 1234QERF but also SHIFT and CTRL with my pinkie and ALT and SPACE with my thumb. That is 3 modifier keys which essentially triples my total amount of keybinds. In the end i don't even need that many because I have a mouse with many side buttons that are really useful.

  • @theplayfulpixels
    @theplayfulpixels Рік тому

    ESDF is honestly genius !!! I've been using SZXC but will def switch to ESDF

  • @bedtimestoriessbzz1948
    @bedtimestoriessbzz1948 2 місяці тому

    Wasd is fine, use your thumb for c-v-f. Also try binding shift+w/s. If you are not using your thumb you are missing a lot.

  • @CHTecki
    @CHTecki 2 місяці тому

    Out of Fight i use WASD. Infight i only use WS or left/rightclick to move. i dont strafe, its faster with the mouse to get in place than WASD. So i can use my abilities 1to5, shift 1to5, cmd 1to5 :)
    Since i use autotarget, its more comfortable to move infight

  • @have_studs_will_travel2809
    @have_studs_will_travel2809 Рік тому

    so i decided to key bind using your tiers and set it up in such a way that the action bars k physically look like my keyboard, which resulted in dragon riding controls bound to Z,X,C,V instead of the normal 1,2,3,4 I'm used to LMAO

  • @nagastrike
    @nagastrike Рік тому

    I have standard wasd and camera on scroll. I've been finding success with abilities 1 through 6 with mouse buttons. Shift 1-6 for interrupts stuns and movement. Control 1-6 goes to my defenses and more niche abilities. Then I use R T F and shift F for major CDs. I do play fury warrior and WW monk tho so I might have less buttons than some.

  • @Lironah
    @Lironah 11 місяців тому

    I have all movement keys bound to my 16-button mouse where all I have to do is twitch my thumb, but it never even occurred to me to change my left hand home position. I'm gonna be revamping like everything tomorrow.

  • @azuthyra5590
    @azuthyra5590 Рік тому

    There's a lot of great ideas here. At the very least, for now, I've started binding my mouse wheel up and down, as well as my caps lock button to abilities. 3 extra buttons is already helping a ton. I'm going to keep looking for more buttons to free up. Thanks for the inspiration!

    • @oskar9900
      @oskar9900 Рік тому

      then u add shift for SCROLL UP DOWN 2 MORE

  • @nozko
    @nozko Рік тому +1

    Very good and clear video! One question remains after watching, why isn't the thumb used to press keybinds? It makes reaching bottom tier 4 and tier 5 binds much easier as it just sits on the spacebar

  • @6er4ik8
    @6er4ik8 3 місяці тому

    Good video!
    But I'd take the B key to Tier 2 and add the N key cause its easy to fast press for me when thumb is placed on the Space

  • @Captaincroc
    @Captaincroc 2 місяці тому

    Even a year later and already keybinding myself, this video gave me some great tips! Excellent video, sir 🫡 got yourself +1 sub

  • @BamaRyla
    @BamaRyla Рік тому

    Just wanna highlight something, about using yout thumb, u can slide it under your hand and make the lower row-keys a little bit easy, its comfortable for me (used to it from different game: DotA2) so it might be tier 2 keys... and thx for the VD

  • @andrewgardner5502
    @andrewgardner5502 Рік тому

    Love your videos. Just picked up wow since vanilla. These are exactly the tips I need to make the game feel more intuitive

  • @clouts8973
    @clouts8973 8 місяців тому

    I started playing WoW a week ago, I use a half keyboard with the two mouse button on the side that are assigned to shift and ctrl, I think with the E, S, D, F. there is a space between the space bar I think I will use P, V, B with my thumb and R, T, G with my index

  • @MysicValley
    @MysicValley Рік тому

    2 minutes in and my mind is blown
    Edkt: seriously 2 minutes of this channel and I love it. Thank you so much.

  • @fabianschumann2566
    @fabianschumann2566 Рік тому

    Most underrated Keybind:
    Shift +Space
    Easy to press .. always my huge defensive :)

  • @bigjim7417
    @bigjim7417 Рік тому +3

    Ive been using a naga pro with my blood DK and even set my 2 of action bar in a 3x4 pattern to match the buttons on my mouse, 1-12 then ctrl+1-12. Might experiment more now im getting used to my setup.

    • @InfiniteEsai
      @InfiniteEsai Рік тому

      I do the same.

    • @windowsmcafee
      @windowsmcafee Рік тому +1

      I've heard some people on forums and even some influencers say that using an MMO mouse buttons for main abilities is bad. I've never understood where this comes from. I've been using MMO mice since the original Naga released. I've never felt hampered by using the buttons. I have everything bound 1-12 then Shift+1-12. I know exactly where everything is and have no issue hitting my buttons. I have large hands maybe that's why I have no problems, but I recommend using an MMO mouse to anyone.

  • @ItsAzashke
    @ItsAzashke 11 місяців тому

    Personally, I've been using QWE for movement and all the same old buttons for every other binds. I am very surprised nobody is mentioning that combo.

  • @danzfloor1
    @danzfloor1 Рік тому +2

    I like your point of view here and tried it few days......but I alsof like to use "Alt + Button" combinations for many skills and with the ESDF combination it dont feel that good as with WASD tbh.
    But I think at the end of the day it's personal preference and musle memory how you perform with certain keybindings. :)

    • @nectarpeach2853
      @nectarpeach2853 Місяць тому

      You made a great point about Alt being more difficult to press, and it is something that should totally be highlighted when talking WASD vs ESDF. This was a great concern for me too, and part of the reason why I've stuck with WASD, still a lot of good tips in here tho.

  • @Silverhand404
    @Silverhand404 Рік тому +1

    I use a Latin American keyboard, and they usually have a smaller shift key but has an extra button to the left of z. ESDF sounds atrocious bc of it because the shift modifier is too far away, at the same time I am impressed by the fact you have a pack pedal button that can be another A tier bind.

    • @Tripsqueak
      @Tripsqueak Рік тому

      I use a Latin American keyboard too, but shift is still at a pretty comfortable distance, so I don't have any problems. Maybe I just have long fingies.

    • @nectarpeach2853
      @nectarpeach2853 Місяць тому

      I rebind backpedal, but do not consider it A-tier bind, still B-tier.

  • @alexanderlinderson2655
    @alexanderlinderson2655 2 місяці тому

    This kinda breaks down on my european keyboard D: I have the | key to the left of Z so it's a longer stretch for me to hit shift. So hitting shift + all "green" buttons for wasd gives me more options easier than the esdf variant. I really wanted to love it because it made so much sense. Binding caps is a good shout though!

  • @groovbox
    @groovbox Рік тому

    I don't know how more people haven't made their Caps Lock be Control, it's so much better

  • @bulkzymalone2588
    @bulkzymalone2588 Рік тому

    I have roll on mouse wheel forward and used to have stun middle. The amount of times I rolled away from the enemy casting a group killer 😂😂😂 I changed it after many fails lol

  • @ALC0LITE
    @ALC0LITE 10 місяців тому

    ESDF makes so much sense, but I don't only play WoW - and not all games you can customize movement. If the whole industry moved over, then I would too!

  • @LucasBrennan-jb7lc
    @LucasBrennan-jb7lc 6 місяців тому

    Great video. As a healer or tank, what keybinds do you assign to target party members?

  • @venaseph6314
    @venaseph6314 6 місяців тому

    So confusing, I know the channel from the curse of strad vids, and then this popped in my feed. Surreal.

  • @ae86manny
    @ae86manny Рік тому

    I like the philosophy behind the switch from WASD to ESDF

  • @rokman5000
    @rokman5000 Рік тому

    I used an orbweaver for years but now I have and Azeron Cyborg. Haven't used a keyboard in a long time.

  • @neburiveS
    @neburiveS 10 місяців тому +1

    Very informative video. I'm currently trying the esdf method of moving but I am struggling a little bit with the fact that I'm german and german keyboards have another button between what would be z and shift (nevermind the fact that z and y are switched but that doesnt matter) so I'm struggling to extend my pinky far enough to press down shift consistently. But who knows, maybe it's just a thing of getting used to it.

    • @neburiveS
      @neburiveS 10 місяців тому

      Yeah no, I tried for a bit and hate it with a passion. The existence of the key on german keyboards makes it really uncomfortable to press shift+something. Too bad.

  • @nickhallowell4352
    @nickhallowell4352 7 місяців тому

    thank you for the wasd look. I can't change from wasd, I feel like that would ruin every other game for me :)

  • @nectarpeach2853
    @nectarpeach2853 Місяць тому

    I love the idea of ESDF, but it's so hard to use after using WASD for so long. Have given ESDF a solid try and just couldn't do it, would be amazing if I could tho.

  • @MrDoctorDave
    @MrDoctorDave 5 місяців тому

    Actually I'm an SDF guy, D is move forward, shift D is backtrack. E is another tier 1 key.

  • @Kal-El706
    @Kal-El706 Рік тому +1

    I used to play wow, but… it’s been over a decade. I just bought it a week ago and cannot figure out keybinds. I’m doing your method but if you have a keybind layout for an arcane mage, that would greatly be appreciated 😊

  • @Khüchten
    @Khüchten Рік тому

    I never use ~ for anything, it just made me realize i should bind OPie too.

  • @AzRusoski
    @AzRusoski 26 днів тому

    I have a 12 button mouse. Do you recommend key binding those to the main attacks? Or is it better to use the keyboard?

  • @KippoKupo
    @KippoKupo 5 місяців тому

    Not gonna lie, I was judging pretty hard when you said ESDF but honestly... it makes sense. I dont think i'll use it since I use an MMO mouse so I dont need a lot of binds but still.

  • @paulansell5746
    @paulansell5746 3 місяці тому

    Can we have a gameplay vide with a small cam window to show your hands and mouse movement playing to showcase these.. great video BTW :D

  • @ArmyofRed1
    @ArmyofRed1 Рік тому

    I watched few of your videos and I think it will help a lot. I did see the Addon vid also. Do you have a video on curseforge how to use?

  • @stewynew
    @stewynew Рік тому

    Hey man, great video. Please can I ask, what addon/weak aura are you using at 12:10 for the raid marker ring please?

  • @aladdin9098
    @aladdin9098 Рік тому +1

    in my eyes u get not the recognition u deserve.. u are a freggin bossssss

  • @gideonkenrich9339
    @gideonkenrich9339 Рік тому

    Very good video and I mostly agree with all your reasoning. I would like to add something for the community though.
    Obviously this all of this is relative. And for the record, if it works your you (how big your keyboard and/or hands are), you use it!.
    However, this might differ for some people before coming to this video I tried esdf aswell for movement keys as I was aware that I required more keybinds.
    Unfortunately for me I have small hands, but big fingers and a quite compact keyboard layout. So moving to esdf was no option for me as it was unnatural and uncomfortable to use my thump to use alt.
    I think wasd is still a valid option depending on your options. Where as for me I am able to use alt more conveniently. I use shift, ctrl and alt for mousewheel, Also I am using mousewheel a bit more extensive for the past 3 years and it's still working perfectly fine. for zooming obvious choice is page up/down as you mentioned.
    I like that you call out to generalize/categorize as much as possible (not always been possible in my experience as some classes wouldn't have 6 mobility options and then I am left with 6 buttons I don't want to use for other goals -.- )
    Today I was looking into an addon which made it so I can just use keybinds to spells rather then actionbars. And the best I got was Clique, but that is designed specifically for healing and mouseover and doesn't fully support the way I intended to use it. It's great nonetheless, just didn't suite my goal.
    For anyone able and comfortable - not muscle memory, but at least hand placement and able to reach keys etc - go for it! I would be using this now if not for what I mentioned earlier.
    Also, incase this can help anyone and/or be an addition to the video:
    shift+w = general mount (now a macro because I didn't want to add another keybind specific for dragonflight mounts which are only useable in designated areas)
    ctrl+w = Grand expedition mount (or the auction mount if you have that)
    alt+w = sandstone drake (from back in the day I used to help friends get to places who where new, but you can do with this whatever you want. I had no reason to change this yet)
    shift + a, s, d | respectively marking: skull, square, cross (I saw a video regarding a ring, which I will look after this comment)
    So far I always used z, x for movement keys, since I already used mousewheel (no mod) for things such as warlock teleport circle and monk transcendence. Where down is setting the place and up is to 'go' functionality
    Also I have a logitech g502 as I am incapable of using mmo mouses (I squeeze my mouse to hard and accidently press buttons sadly) there you have 2 buttons by your left mouse button which are awesome to use (also with modifiers)!
    As someone else mentioned in the comments, you can use shift modifier for other mouse buttons as well!
    Awesome video, I already used most of the logic and keyboard layout thought processes, but I still got some good things out of this video, because I am still using keybinds for abilities from years ago which aren't as effective to use becaus they are to hard to get by, or an easy key holding an ability I don't use often.
    I am looking forward to the rest of your content and further videos!
    PS. excuse me for my essay

    • @gideonkenrich9339
      @gideonkenrich9339 Рік тому

      Mount macro for the ones interested:
      /cast [nomounted, dragonridable] Winding Slitherdrake
      /cast [nomounted, flyable] Ban-Lu, Grandmaster's Companion
      /cast [nomounted, flyable] Invincible
      /cast [nomounted, noflyable] Grove Warden
      /dismount
      logic of the macro:
      If not mounted, check if dragons are ridable (dragonflight specific drakes ofc)
      if not, and not mounted, but it's a flyable area -> cast class mounts (optional)
      if you can't do above (because you are playing different class) -> cast invincible
      if no flyable area -> cast Grove Warden
      /dismount
      This dismount is in there because the macro won't dismount you as it checks multiply conditions (not the real techy nerd correct explanation, but for those who aren't coders it's understandable now)
      You can put as much classmounts in there as you want, just repeat the line. Do keep in mind the max of 255 characters tho (unless you have addon)
      And obviously you can replace any of the mounts to your liking.
      If you don't have a ground-only specific mount you want to use, you can simply leave that line and make it like this:
      /cast [nomounted, dragonridable] Winding Slitherdrake
      /cast [nomounted, flyable] Ban-Lu, Grandmaster's Companion
      /cast [nomounted, flyable] Invincible; Grove Warden
      /dismount
      even if you can't fly, the ; seperator will make it so that if all before that is false, it will just mount that.
      I am not sure (havn't tested) but you can even leave that part out ("; Grove Warden") and it will (even if not flyable) mount invincible since it can be mounted even in noflyable zones

    • @gideonkenrich9339
      @gideonkenrich9339 Рік тому

      Final addition, in regards to the lower teired buttons such as X and C. Imo they are not as low because of two reasons:
      1. you can jump, keeping your momentum and quickly tap it.
      2. you can (supporting the above) use it for instant spells. Don't use it for spells that can be placed (unless you use a macro (@cursor)) especially not when combined with shift.
      That's my experience at least

    • @gideonkenrich9339
      @gideonkenrich9339 Рік тому

      I now notice your keyboard has a fn key. In that case the alt key will be indeed very easily and comfortably accessible

  • @joostbankert4250
    @joostbankert4250 10 місяців тому

    Any tips from and for left-handed people who have to use their right hand for keyboard?

  • @2Timothy215channel
    @2Timothy215channel 8 місяців тому

    there are so many videos like this one, and they all say different things, I think a person should play around with the key binds and see what works for them.

  • @caseyralston2614
    @caseyralston2614 Рік тому

    Nice. I use my mouse wheel for strafing and have a forward/back movement on the mouse as well. Been using this type of set up for a while but moving things over (pinky strain) a little to see if that optimizes.

  • @CrzBonKerz21
    @CrzBonKerz21 Рік тому

    I've been playing WASD on WoW for almost 20 years. I don't think I can change lol

  • @pnksmigge5324
    @pnksmigge5324 10 місяців тому

    having had my vanish bound to F for so many years, it's incredibly hard to shake that, but the keybind was too good for it :F

  • @BernGrylls
    @BernGrylls Рік тому

    Nice man! Will apply these tomorrow.

  • @TheMrDubstepic
    @TheMrDubstepic 4 місяці тому

    The G502 mouse is the real GOAT for WoW keybinds.

  • @stonedoveexp3143
    @stonedoveexp3143 10 місяців тому

    The A,S,D is why I never played on the Keyboard . I bought a keypad so my movement keys are in the middle .

  • @christianbotello8537
    @christianbotello8537 6 місяців тому

    This is so cool!!!! God I want to try ESDF

  • @rebeccas1604
    @rebeccas1604 Рік тому +1

    What is a good gaming mouse to use? I have been using a 4 button mouse but I would like to try a good mouse with more buttons. I'm gonna try the ESDF, I am an old school WOW gamer but I have never been good at PVP and I think a better key bind set up and mouse will help. Thanks for the video's! I'm really enjoying them. They have been very helpful.

    • @DungeonCoachGaming
      @DungeonCoachGaming  Рік тому +1

      pvp is HUGE for keybinds and focus modifiers etc
      I use a corsair scimitar

    • @rebeccas1604
      @rebeccas1604 Рік тому

      @@DungeonCoachGaming TY dear!

  • @avriliosfox8804
    @avriliosfox8804 6 місяців тому

    On my side mouse key I have (Shift) couse I play very different I move with (Q-W-E) but I try to see other play styles couse are usefull.

  • @kemp707
    @kemp707 Рік тому

    Mind = Blown WASD for so long and this is ...... genius

  • @srajmar3579
    @srajmar3579 2 місяці тому

    Do you really need to walk backwards button (D) when you can strafe backwards?
    And what was that mod to mark adds with icons? Thanks

  • @RisingEchoes
    @RisingEchoes Місяць тому

    Apparently I'm just weird. I use wasd but keep my index finger on F. So I guess I use a hybrid of what you are explaining in this vid