Did you ever try the S Works Torch Laces? I have wide feet (wear wide in lakes) but running the S-Works Recon laces seem to help a lot with the width of my foot. The Torch laces may be a better option.
@Addict Cyclist I've got the same issue issue. I have the S-Works Ares, and love them, but on 40+ mile rides, that mid-foot outer part of the shoe is far too narrow and I can't wait to take off the shoes. I was hoping these new S-works Torch in a Wide would solve the problem. In one of the videos I saw they said they scanned over 110k feet from Retul. I'm surprised they didn't find more people with this issue or how is it they are using the data gathering. This has to be more a of norm.
You need to try Sidi Shot 2. They have been my best fitting shoe I ever tried! Order from competitive cyclist so you can return with ease if need be! Check out my video library.
You're completely right with the Shimano RC-902 wide. They were more narrow than my Rapha Shoes and I can wear the Raphas only for 60 km max. I'll give the torch a try because I have a wide forefoot and it's very tough to get high end shoes in wide. Thank you for the honest review.
Sorry for all the questions. I've asked Specialized about the width of the Torch - which they don't know... Do you happen to know how they compare to S-Phyre 902/903 in either the normal or wide model?
@@addictcyclist Thanks a lot! I can tell a difference (I think) in both 902 and 903 between normal and wide. I'm using wide in 902 and 903 - it definitely sounds like I should only consider the standard Torch 😄
Good morning! I have been wearing the Fizik Vento Stabilita shoes for the last 6 months. I got on with them great to start, but as of late the lower BOA dial is irritating my foot even when I have not tension on the BOA dial on the lower section. I am thinking on longer rides I may be dealing with some foot swelling and these narrow shoes become to narrow even when loose! Have you ever had issues with a BOA dial irritating your foot while riding? I’m struggling trying to figure out what to do??
Thanks! Have you tried the Ares as well? I'm a little like you in that I feel like I move around in my Lake shoes, but I simply can't figure out Ares or Torch will be a better choice. I've only tried Torch on and they feel super nice. I mainly care about the fit, second about looks etc.
Ares are very narrow. I would consider torch in your case. I’m going to do another vid prob today to show my foot shape and how my Sidi fit and why they work for me.
@@addictcyclist thanks a lot! Then I don't have to lie sleepless about that :) Of course I don't know how the Torch actually are on the bike, only that they feel super nice :)
@@Knud451 haha a lot of people ask to see my foot with all these shoe videos and insoles. Sidi are the best fitting and stiffest shoe I ever wore and I tried them all.
@@addictcyclist nooo, you can't say that. Now I wont be able to sleep tonight :) I guess its the Shot 2 that is equivalent to Torch. Sounds like they also fit wide feet. Is that correct?
@@larsreichel9700 hahaha gotcha. I didn’t measure the shoes. They are A lot wider then the 7s. Specialized did note the increase in mm with over the 7 on the site.
Hi, Great review. Coyld give the mesurements of your foot , lenght and width with the size you pick in order to have an idea. Indeed, they don’t do large in half size and my lenght is perfect on 8.5. Thks for your advice.
I'm actually looking for a pair myself. Started off with Specialized body geometry shoes good shoes but there were a tad small. Went and tried several others and got hot foot. I heard from several riders that the DMT-KRSL lace ups were super duper comfy so I now have a choice between the newest Specialized Torch or the DMT's. Why does it all have to be so darn expensive though!!! But in the end the saying is very true, "you buy cheap you buy twice". For me a good quality & comfortable cycling shoe is a must as my training rides are quite long...
Great review- The S- works torch isn't available in wide fit here in Europe yet. I have a long history with Specialized Cycling shoes. I absolutely loved the fit and performance of s-works 6 wide, but the wrap around upper on the s-works 7 wide caused so much discomfort of my dorsal tendons, rendering them totally unusable. Specialized get a lot of criticism, but they have totally revolutionised cycling shoe design. It certainly looks like the S-works torch will be a much more comfortable shoe than the 7, as they redesigned/ lowered the position of the top boa .
Once I got my feet in Lake shoes I have not been able to go back to anything else. They have a great 2 year warranty as well. I broken a pair (my fault) and they still agreed to give me full credit for a new pair. Waiting on the new CX302 to come in the mail. If you are not happy with the 241's which have their competition last try the 302, 332, 403 that have the race last. A little less roomy but you can get them in extra wide.
@@addictcyclist If you still have them try slamming the cleats all the way back then move the cleats inward towards the bike which will move the shoe out. A wider stance might help the knee pain. Side note: you might need to adjust saddle height. Great vid btw! Hope you find a shoe that works!
@@svgranger I had the cleats as far back as they go and as far in to push my stance width out. Issue with the 332 sole is the cleats were hanging off the side and were flexing under power and was not allowing the cleat to float freely.
@@addictcyclist good to know. Thanks for the feedback. The 302's will be my first with the Race last. I'll have to watch for those issues. Thanks again!
Bro. You need to go Bont Vapor S. I have the same problem as you with foot shape. Tried over 10 brands and models and nothing seemed to work. Contact a gentleman by the name of Ming @ Mc2 Sports. He is in California. Tell him your issues. He's a distributor for Bont. I got the Wide version in the Vapor S. Molded those suckers a couple of times and no more foot issues.I also tired the Lake CX238. Very good in width but didn't fit me from front to back. Couldn't be happier with the Bonts. Happy hunting.
Thanks! I tried the Vaypor s. I didn’t havw the same luck BUT I will say I didn’t really heat mold too much as I was already considering return. I felt the Carbon really didn’t mold well. My error?
@@addictcyclist I would recommend the wide version. I ordered the regular one's 1st, and the Carbon was rubbing on the outer parts of my foot. I swapped them for the wide version. After molding them they were spot on. Again, you might have to mold them 2 or 3 times.
I am unable to determine if I need a wide fit from Specialized's sizing guide. I know I'm a 41 but there is no way to tell if my forefoot width of 106mm will suit a regular or wide fit?
@@addictcyclist oouch , im sorry to hear that. I have ares’s over a year but i have wide feet. It is little bit tight over 2 hour rides. I want to try Lake Cx 332-wide version. You can consider to tey them. fyi* Thanks for your rply
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Can you specify what SIDI and Lake shoes are working for you? The subtitles were not working well.
Sidi only shoe really working for me. Shot 2
Did you ever try the S Works Torch Laces? I have wide feet (wear wide in lakes) but running the S-Works Recon laces seem to help a lot with the width of my foot. The Torch laces may be a better option.
Never tried lace shoes. Was always concerned about mid ride adjustments, or lack their of. Can’t make any adjustments while riding .
@Addict Cyclist I've got the same issue issue. I have the S-Works Ares, and love them, but on 40+ mile rides, that mid-foot outer part of the shoe is far too narrow and I can't wait to take off the shoes. I was hoping these new S-works Torch in a Wide would solve the problem. In one of the videos I saw they said they scanned over 110k feet from Retul. I'm surprised they didn't find more people with this issue or how is it they are using the data gathering. This has to be more a of norm.
You need to try Sidi Shot 2. They have been my best fitting shoe I ever tried! Order from competitive cyclist so you can return with ease if need be! Check out my video library.
You're completely right with the Shimano RC-902 wide. They were more narrow than my Rapha Shoes and I can wear the Raphas only for 60 km max. I'll give the torch a try because I have a wide forefoot and it's very tough to get high end shoes in wide. Thank you for the honest review.
Thanks! Report back with your results.
do you can say something about the fit on the wide shoes ?
Sorry for all the questions. I've asked Specialized about the width of the Torch - which they don't know... Do you happen to know how they compare to S-Phyre 902/903 in either the normal or wide model?
S works torch is much wider. Shimano 902/3 wide is a joke. My regular Sidi a lot wider than Shimano wide.
@@addictcyclist Thanks a lot! I can tell a difference (I think) in both 902 and 903 between normal and wide. I'm using wide in 902 and 903 - it definitely sounds like I should only consider the standard Torch 😄
Good morning! I have been wearing the Fizik Vento Stabilita shoes for the last 6 months. I got on with them great to start, but as of late the lower BOA dial is irritating my foot even when I have not tension on the BOA dial on the lower section. I am thinking on longer rides I may be dealing with some foot swelling and these narrow shoes become to narrow even when loose! Have you ever had issues with a BOA dial irritating your foot while riding? I’m struggling trying to figure out what to do??
Hey! Only on the brief time I wore the Shimano Sphyre 902. Were terrible.
Does sworks have that geometry wide insoles for this wide version shoes ?
The insoles in shoes are a little wider than the regular insoles BUT they do not make BG blue or green. The ones in shoes are Red and are lowest.
@@addictcyclist if I buy the wide version of this shoes I can’t get the proper specialized insole for wide version shoes?
@@dannyli5946the bg footbeds will work fine. I used the blue for a short time
I'm thinking with Cx332 Extra Wide. I have wide front feet, so please recommend between cx332 and esworks torch wide.
What is your width across your metatarsal?
@@addictcyclist105mm.
I'm currently wearing a fizik infinito 2 wide without any pain.
Thanks! Have you tried the Ares as well? I'm a little like you in that I feel like I move around in my Lake shoes, but I simply can't figure out Ares or Torch will be a better choice. I've only tried Torch on and they feel super nice. I mainly care about the fit, second about looks etc.
Ares are very narrow. I would consider torch in your case. I’m going to do another vid prob today to show my foot shape and how my Sidi fit and why they work for me.
@@addictcyclist thanks a lot! Then I don't have to lie sleepless about that :)
Of course I don't know how the Torch actually are on the bike, only that they feel super nice :)
@@Knud451 haha a lot of people ask to see my foot with all these shoe videos and insoles. Sidi are the best fitting and stiffest shoe I ever wore and I tried them all.
@@addictcyclist nooo, you can't say that. Now I wont be able to sleep tonight :)
I guess its the Shot 2 that is equivalent to Torch. Sounds like they also fit wide feet. Is that correct?
@@Knud451 shot 2. Also I don’t like specialized shoes that have a built in wedge. The shot 2 fit wider feet due to its higher volume.
After many years with Sidi shoes I ride now the Torch sice 1000 km, it is the best shoe I ever had.
I wish the torch wide fit me!
Hey, thanks for the insides. I also have some anoying wide feets. Do you have some meassurments?
Thanks! I’m 110mm from the widest point on each side of the foot ( first metatarsal to outside mid foot) yet 105mm from first and last metatarsal.
@@addictcyclist haha thanks, but i meant the shoes ;) in EU the wides arent available. An the normal was to tight
@@larsreichel9700 hahaha gotcha. I didn’t measure the shoes. They are
A lot wider then the 7s. Specialized did note the increase in mm with over the 7 on the site.
@@addictcyclist Haha, i tried the sworks 7 and they did not fit, ares was a bit better. But not good either. Lets hope for the torch wide :)
Is this last also wider compared to the standard torch or only the upper? How would you compare the torch to the CX332 overall?
The last is wider! S works fits better
@@addictcyclist is the stack height lower than cx332? This is for me one of the cons of the lake…massive stack height.
@@wesw6787 much lower. The stack height and contour of the lake was so bad I could not ride the shoe.
Hi, Great review. Coyld give the mesurements of your foot , lenght and width with the size you pick in order to have an idea. Indeed, they don’t do large in half size and my lenght is perfect on 8.5.
Thks for your advice.
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Is it your foot shape, or do you have collapsing arches which make your foot broaden? Perhaps custom insoles might be your solution?
It’s my foot shape. No collapsing arches and I now use solestar insoles. Always used insoles. I can’t have it too narrow in the midfoot.
I'm actually looking for a pair myself. Started off with Specialized body geometry shoes good shoes but there were a tad small. Went and tried several others and got hot foot. I heard from several riders that the
DMT-KRSL lace ups were super duper comfy so I now have a choice between the newest Specialized Torch or the DMT's.
Why does it all have to be so darn expensive though!!! But in the end the saying is very true, "you buy cheap you buy twice".
For me a good quality & comfortable cycling shoe is a must as my training rides are quite long...
My Sidi shot 2 retail for 580 🫣 crazy
Which shoes have you choosen?
Great review- The S- works torch isn't available in wide fit here in Europe yet. I have a long history with Specialized Cycling shoes. I absolutely loved the fit and performance of s-works 6 wide, but the wrap around upper on the s-works 7 wide caused so much discomfort of my dorsal tendons, rendering them totally unusable. Specialized get a lot of criticism, but they have totally revolutionised cycling shoe design. It certainly looks like the S-works torch will be a much more comfortable shoe than the 7, as they redesigned/ lowered the position of the top boa .
Thanks! This torch is a total win. if it wasn’t for that heel cup extension I’m totally sold for me. I did already return them.
Lake’s, you can heat them up and they’ll conform give you a custom fit
Once I got my feet in Lake shoes I have not been able to go back to anything else. They have a great 2 year warranty as well. I broken a pair (my fault) and they still agreed to give me full credit for a new pair. Waiting on the new CX302 to come in the mail. If you are not happy with the 241's which have their competition last try the 302, 332, 403 that have the race last. A little less roomy but you can get them in extra wide.
Thanks for feedback. I tried them all. 332 fit well but the sole shape caused issues with my pedal stroke. Gave me knee pain.
@@addictcyclist If you still have them try slamming the cleats all the way back then move the cleats inward towards the bike which will move the shoe out. A wider stance might help the knee pain. Side note: you might need to adjust saddle height. Great vid btw! Hope you find a shoe that works!
@@svgranger I had the cleats as far back as they go and as far in to push my stance width out. Issue with the 332 sole is the cleats were hanging off the side and were flexing under power and was not allowing the cleat to float freely.
@@addictcyclist good to know. Thanks for the feedback. The 302's will be my first with the Race last. I'll have to watch for those issues. Thanks again!
@@svgranger check out my reviews
Bro. You need to go Bont Vapor S. I have the same problem as you with foot shape. Tried over 10 brands and models and nothing seemed to work. Contact a gentleman by the name of Ming @ Mc2 Sports. He is in California. Tell him your issues. He's a distributor for Bont. I got the Wide version in the Vapor S. Molded those suckers a couple of times and no more foot issues.I also tired the Lake CX238. Very good in width but didn't fit me from front to back. Couldn't be happier with the Bonts. Happy hunting.
Thanks! I tried the Vaypor s. I didn’t havw the same luck BUT I will say I didn’t really heat mold too much as I was already considering return. I felt the Carbon really didn’t mold well. My error?
@@addictcyclist I would recommend the wide version. I ordered the regular one's 1st, and the Carbon was rubbing on the outer parts of my foot. I swapped them for the wide version. After molding them they were spot on. Again, you might have to mold them 2 or 3 times.
@@samuel8590 I ordered wide but I didn’t hear mold them several times. I will consider trying again. So far my Sidi Shot 2 been good!
I am unable to determine if I need a wide fit from Specialized's sizing guide. I know I'm a 41 but there is no way to tell if my forefoot width of 106mm will suit a regular or wide fit?
You would definitely not fit in a regular. I had a size 43.5 Sworks torch and have 105mm wide feet and they do not fit.
Have you tried Shimano RC702 in wide?
Only the 902 wide and they were terrible. My big toe was half on half off the last.
@@addictcyclist sucks. i had to order 7 pairs and am waiting for them to show up so I can actually try them on, stores simply do not carry wides
My arch is really flat, would these work?
They will work. The supplied foot bed is pretty neutral. Can swap out for different levels.
No white wide?!?! Well eff…
Do you ear something about a MTB wide version?
I have not yet
@@addictcyclist thanks
pls make a Long Term review, thx
Would love to, already sent them back. Giving side of my foot an ache just wearing them sitting on couch.
@@addictcyclist oouch , im sorry to hear that. I have ares’s over a year but i have wide feet. It is little bit tight over 2 hour rides.
I want to try Lake Cx 332-wide version. You can consider to tey them. fyi*
Thanks for your rply
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Lake CX332 three month update and downfalls
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