@@neckarfoil Foiling is my dream.In winter I bought all the equipment and this summer I was going to ride.but the war began and all the equipment burned down along with the house.But I won't give up my dream))))
@@neckarfoil I lived on the shores of the Sea of Azov, it is shallow and the waves are not high and short, we have very developed windsurfing and kitesurfing, there is no surfing on the waves at all. Almost no one has heard of foiling, and those who have heard laugh that it is very difficult and generally a toy for the rich and has no future. And this was told to me by people who have been involved in water sports for a couple of years, they laughed at me. And then I decided that I would learn everything myself and start teaching others. It was my plan to change my life))) I I wanted to bring foil surfing to the Sea of Azov, because it's so cool, even on small and short waves you can ride for hours without a sail or wing or kite. I'm not complaining, I just wanted to share my dreams)
Very good! Professional hand crafted! Would love to do one similar. Curious can you bend pauwlonia To create a little rocker? Then do the carbon to hold the curve?
Thanks for your comment! In my opinion, the Paulownia wood core will be too stiff to keep it in a curved shape with the carbon layer. In my other video "the curvy shaped koi" I managed to form a rocker with balsa and beech wood strips. However, I prefer a flat board. It's somehow more ergonomic for pumping!
It is first a layer of carbon and then glass. You could also do it the other way around, but then the edges would no longer have that wooden look. What would I do differently? I'm still thinking about how to make the holes for the mast easier. Maybe with inserts? But I haven't found anything suitable yet!
Very nice. Thank you for sharing this process. I would like to make a very simple board from plywood and epoxy, without the glass and carbon fiber. Is the carbon and glass really necessary and how much of a difference does it make if you do not use it?
Hi Harry, plywood weighs about twice as much as paulownia wood. But of course it's much more stable and yes, with plywood (20 mm thick) you don't need any additional fiber reinforcements.
@@vonumadum8527 Hi, the thickness of the Paulownia wood core is 18 mm. At this thickness, it will not be stiff and strong enough without fiber reinforcement. Depending on the rider's weight, you would need a wood thickness of 30-40 mm. It would be best to use two hardwood stringers, which then hold the screws for the mast mount. Check out our video on the Curvy Koi ua-cam.com/video/VPsJzjl3C3I/v-deo.html But with the greater wood thickness, the weight also becomes very heavy!
@@neckarfoil thanks for the quick reply! Since you say stringer: i thought of just screwing 2 stringers on the bottom surface to stiffen the board and to screw the mast on
Bamboo wood is twice as heavy as Paulownia! Bamboo 500 kg/m3 and Paulownia 280 kg/m3. Due to the higher strength, you could reduce the thickness of the board to save weight. But not too thin, because it should be as stiff as possible. You can compare the properties of the woods here: www.wood-database.com/bamboo/ www.wood-database.com/paulownia/
Happy New Year! In this Video I used Tesa Ultra Power Tape. The Tape is very wide (48mm) what makes it difficult to mask curvy lines without wrinkles. I tried out a strong paper masking tape with 20mm width and it worked better. Just apply two lanes side by side to have a wider masking!
Hi! The inner walls of the holes must be sealed to prevent water from penetrating the wood. It doesn't have to be made of metal either! Sealing with epoxy could also be sufficient.
Hi Tyler, the first of these “Kingfisher” boards have been in use for our foil pumping courses for almost two years now. There have also been no complaints from our customers who have purchased a board. The robust construction with the wooden core does not become soft despite the high load during pumping. It is ideal for dock launching in harsh environments with steel docks and concrete walls. In contrast to foam cores, the board does not soak water in the event of minor damage.
Thanks man for sharing this is great! I am trying to build my own very soon! The screw job is very impressive, I don't understand what is the tool you use at 6:15
Megagut und super, dass ihr das mit der Community teilt! Meint ihr, dass m8 Gewindemuffen auch für den Mastmount klappen würden? Hattet ihr damit Mal gearbeitet?
Hallo choco4surf, du meinst sicher diese Gewindemuffen mit Außengewinde für Holz und innen metrisches Gewinde!? Nein, damit haben wir tatsächlich noch nicht gearbeitet und können keine Erfahrungen dazu teilen. Wir würden diese Muffen dann aber auch nur in massives Holz schrauben, also kein Paulownia oder Balsa. Alternativ könnten aber auch je nach Boarddicke "Einschlagmuttern" funktionieren. Etwas edler wären "Bighead Fastener". Achte in jedem Fall darauf, dass es Edelstahl ist. Bei Salzwasser am besten A4 Edelstahl!
Tatsächlich meine ich nur eingeklebte Gewindemuffen (nur mit Innengewinde, aussen glatt und nur eingeklebt in die Bohrung). Also eine Befestigung ganz ohne Mutter. Aber vermutlich ist das zu riskant. Werde es vermutlich nicht riskieren. @@neckarfoil
@@choco4surf Ist tatsächlich riskant. Es sollte zumindest ein Hinterschnitt vorhanden sein, also eine formschlüssige Verbindung zwischen Gewinde und Board!
Hi 99shades, no there is not really a template. I just use the previously built board. But feel free with the shape. The shape plays a subordinate role for foil pumping boards. A sharp nose or corners should be avoided so that it is not as sensitive to impacts on the dock.
@@williamstratton6221 Thank you! The dimensions are 92 x 35 cm. Have a look on our website. May be you can copy from the photos: www.neckarfoil.de/shop/equipment/foil-pumping-board-eisvogel/
Hey, cooles Video. Ich scheitere gerade schon daran Paulownia Holz zu kaufen. Könnt Ihr mir sagen wo ihr das gefunden habt? In unseren Baumärkten gibt es das leider nicht.
Ja, das ist aktuell echt ein Problem in den Baumärkten. Es gibt einfach keinen Nachschub. Wir haben noch bei Bauhaus die letzten Reste bekommen. Echt doofe Situation:(
Hallo, ich bin gerade schon dabei das Board zu bauen und habe noch ein paar Fragen dazu :) - Wieso werden Kanten mit Klebeband abgeklebt vor der Glasfaserschicht? - Ist es auch möglich Langlöcher mit der Stichsäge reinzusägen und Epox reinzumachen oder ist das dann zu instabil? - Welche Schraubenköpfe nehmt ihr? Ganz normale Sechskant + Beilegescheibe? Vielen Dank und Grüße Valentin
@@valentinhiermeier5476 -Klebeband: Durch das Klebeband entsteht eine klare Schnittkante und du kannst mit dem Messer das überschüssige Glasfasermaterial an dieser Kante abtrennen. -Langlöcher: In unserem Video zum Curvy Koi haben wir Langlöcher verwendet. Mit einem Ovalrohr zur Verstärkung. Allerdings ist es sehr aufwendig, diese Aussparungen zu machen. Aus unserer Sicht sind Langlöcher nicht unbedingt notwendig. Statt den Foil 3cm weiter vorne zu platzieren, kannst du dich auch mit den Füssen 3cm weiter hinten positionieren! -Schrauben: Flachrundkopfschrauben M6 mit Unterlegscheiben. Schau mal in unseren Shop, da findest du ein Set aus hochwertigen A4-70 Edelstahl ;) www.neckarfoil.de/shop/equipment/
Yes, you are absolutely right! The grinding dust of the carbon fiber is respirable and a breathing mask should therefore be worn. Tip: the grinding dust can be reduced by wet grinding.
too complex: 2 hardwood sticks (2.1cm x 2.1cm x 60cm) screwed and glued 9cm apart for supporting the mast foot onto 3.3mm plywood - plus 2cm XPS laminated with 2 sheets of glass fabric (160g/m2) on bottom and sides + 1 sheet of glass fabric on top - Is sufficient. Thus at about 65€ and lighter weight too.
That sounds no less complex than simply using a wood core. But yes, using the hardwood strips as reinforcement is a great idea! And definitely more lightweight!
Eindrucksvolle Arbeit, deren Ablauf verständnisvoll präsentiert wurde.
Vielen Dank! Das freut uns sehr ☺️
Super Tutorial!
Danke dir! Wir hoffen, du konntest dir was abschauen 😊
Nice guys, I really want to build a DIY pump board
Thank you! Check out our other board building videos and get inspiration.
Duidelijk man!
Fell Danke!😊
Good job 👍
Thanks, it's great that you like the video😊
@@neckarfoil Foiling is my dream.In winter I bought all the equipment and this summer I was going to ride.but the war began and all the equipment burned down along with the house.But I won't give up my dream))))
@@Alexander-tc5gd This is so sad 😔. We wish that there will be peace everywhere soon. And yes, never give up your dreams 👍 We wish you all the best!
@@neckarfoil Such is life. I am currently in Ireland under temporary protection. I will try to fulfill my dream here.
@@neckarfoil I lived on the shores of the Sea of Azov, it is shallow and the waves are not high and short, we have very developed windsurfing and kitesurfing, there is no surfing on the waves at all. Almost no one has heard of foiling, and those who have heard laugh that it is very difficult and generally a toy for the rich and has no future. And this was told to me by people who have been involved in water sports for a couple of years, they laughed at me. And then I decided that I would learn everything myself and start teaching others. It was my plan to change my life))) I I wanted to bring foil surfing to the Sea of Azov, because it's so cool, even on small and short waves you can ride for hours without a sail or wing or kite. I'm not complaining, I just wanted to share my dreams)
Very good! Professional hand crafted! Would love to do one similar. Curious can you bend pauwlonia
To create a little rocker? Then do the carbon to hold the curve?
Thanks for your comment! In my opinion, the Paulownia wood core will be too stiff to keep it in a curved shape with the carbon layer. In my other video "the curvy shaped koi" I managed to form a rocker with balsa and beech wood strips.
However, I prefer a flat board. It's somehow more ergonomic for pumping!
Awesome job!
Is there a reason for adding first glas layer on top of the board?
What would you do differen next time?
It is first a layer of carbon and then glass. You could also do it the other way around, but then the edges would no longer have that wooden look.
What would I do differently? I'm still thinking about how to make the holes for the mast easier. Maybe with inserts? But I haven't found anything suitable yet!
Very nice video!
Thanks for the nice feedback!
Very nice. Thank you for sharing this process. I would like to make a very simple board from plywood and epoxy, without the glass and carbon fiber. Is the carbon and glass really necessary and how much of a difference does it make if you do not use it?
Hi Harry, plywood weighs about twice as much as paulownia wood. But of course it's much more stable and yes, with plywood (20 mm thick) you don't need any additional fiber reinforcements.
Thank you very much for the fast replly! I started building the board today. Hopefully I will be able to finish it this week. @@neckarfoil
@@neckarfoil hi, do you think its possible to make the same board without fibre layers? Just paint
@@vonumadum8527 Hi, the thickness of the Paulownia wood core is 18 mm. At this thickness, it will not be stiff and strong enough without fiber reinforcement.
Depending on the rider's weight, you would need a wood thickness of 30-40 mm. It would be best to use two hardwood stringers, which then hold the screws for the mast mount. Check out our video on the Curvy Koi ua-cam.com/video/VPsJzjl3C3I/v-deo.html
But with the greater wood thickness, the weight also becomes very heavy!
@@neckarfoil thanks for the quick reply! Since you say stringer: i thought of just screwing 2 stringers on the bottom surface to stiffen the board and to screw the mast on
can I use bambu or is it too light?
Bamboo wood is twice as heavy as Paulownia!
Bamboo 500 kg/m3 and Paulownia 280 kg/m3.
Due to the higher strength, you could reduce the thickness of the board to save weight. But not too thin, because it should be as stiff as possible.
You can compare the properties of the woods here:
www.wood-database.com/bamboo/
www.wood-database.com/paulownia/
Great video, thanks for sharing. Which tape do you use to mask the edge before applying first glass layer (around minute 3.00)?
Happy New Year! In this Video I used Tesa Ultra Power Tape. The Tape is very wide (48mm) what makes it difficult to mask curvy lines without wrinkles.
I tried out a strong paper masking tape with 20mm width and it worked better. Just apply two lanes side by side to have a wider masking!
@@neckarfoil thanks! All the best for the new year.
Hi and wow! Nice work!
Do you think the metal pipe is necessary?
Hi! The inner walls of the holes must be sealed to prevent water from penetrating the wood. It doesn't have to be made of metal either! Sealing with epoxy could also be sufficient.
How well has this board held up for a year? Has it gotten a lot of use? I might build a similar one, it looks very nice.
Hi Tyler, the first of these “Kingfisher” boards have been in use for our foil pumping courses for almost two years now. There have also been no complaints from our customers who have purchased a board. The robust construction with the wooden core does not become soft despite the high load during pumping. It is ideal for dock launching in harsh environments with steel docks and concrete walls. In contrast to foam cores, the board does not soak water in the event of minor damage.
Thanks man for sharing this is great! I am trying to build my own very soon! The screw job is very impressive, I don't understand what is the tool you use at 6:15
Hi Francois, the tool is a pipe cutter. It allows you to easily cut metal pipes to length. Always right-angled and without chips.
Megagut und super, dass ihr das mit der Community teilt! Meint ihr, dass m8 Gewindemuffen auch für den Mastmount klappen würden? Hattet ihr damit Mal gearbeitet?
Hallo choco4surf, du meinst sicher diese Gewindemuffen mit Außengewinde für Holz und innen metrisches Gewinde!? Nein, damit haben wir tatsächlich noch nicht gearbeitet und können keine Erfahrungen dazu teilen. Wir würden diese Muffen dann aber auch nur in massives Holz schrauben, also kein Paulownia oder Balsa.
Alternativ könnten aber auch je nach Boarddicke "Einschlagmuttern" funktionieren. Etwas edler wären "Bighead Fastener". Achte in jedem Fall darauf, dass es Edelstahl ist. Bei Salzwasser am besten A4 Edelstahl!
Tatsächlich meine ich nur eingeklebte Gewindemuffen (nur mit Innengewinde, aussen glatt und nur eingeklebt in die Bohrung). Also eine Befestigung ganz ohne Mutter. Aber vermutlich ist das zu riskant. Werde es vermutlich nicht riskieren. @@neckarfoil
@@choco4surf Ist tatsächlich riskant. Es sollte zumindest ein Hinterschnitt vorhanden sein, also eine formschlüssige Verbindung zwischen Gewinde und Board!
Is there a template you used to cut out the board?
Hi 99shades, no there is not really a template. I just use the previously built board. But feel free with the shape. The shape plays a subordinate role for foil pumping boards. A sharp nose or corners should be avoided so that it is not as sensitive to impacts on the dock.
I rlly liked the look of yours. What was the length and width?
@@williamstratton6221 Thank you! The dimensions are 92 x 35 cm. Have a look on our website. May be you can copy from the photos:
www.neckarfoil.de/shop/equipment/foil-pumping-board-eisvogel/
Thank you for the quik response!
Hey, cooles Video. Ich scheitere gerade schon daran Paulownia Holz zu kaufen. Könnt Ihr mir sagen wo ihr das gefunden habt? In unseren Baumärkten gibt es das leider nicht.
Ja, das ist aktuell echt ein Problem in den Baumärkten. Es gibt einfach keinen Nachschub. Wir haben noch bei Bauhaus die letzten Reste bekommen. Echt doofe Situation:(
@@neckarfoil Vielen Dank für die schnelle Antwort. :) Dann heisst es wohl abwarten 😅
Hi how about ur board 120L 5'?
Hi, the length of the board is 92cm. With a thickness of 2 cm, the volume is 5 liters.
Does this answer your question?
@@neckarfoilis cool thx man im go to try👍🏻
Hallo,
ich bin gerade schon dabei das Board zu bauen und habe noch ein paar Fragen dazu :)
- Wieso werden Kanten mit Klebeband abgeklebt vor der Glasfaserschicht?
- Ist es auch möglich Langlöcher mit der Stichsäge reinzusägen und Epox reinzumachen oder ist das dann zu instabil?
- Welche Schraubenköpfe nehmt ihr? Ganz normale Sechskant + Beilegescheibe?
Vielen Dank und Grüße
Valentin
@@valentinhiermeier5476
-Klebeband: Durch das Klebeband entsteht eine klare Schnittkante und du kannst mit dem Messer das überschüssige Glasfasermaterial an dieser Kante abtrennen.
-Langlöcher: In unserem Video zum Curvy Koi haben wir Langlöcher verwendet. Mit einem Ovalrohr zur Verstärkung. Allerdings ist es sehr aufwendig, diese Aussparungen zu machen. Aus unserer Sicht sind Langlöcher nicht unbedingt notwendig. Statt den Foil 3cm weiter vorne zu platzieren, kannst du dich auch mit den Füssen 3cm weiter hinten positionieren!
-Schrauben: Flachrundkopfschrauben M6 mit Unterlegscheiben. Schau mal in unseren Shop, da findest du ein Set aus hochwertigen A4-70 Edelstahl ;) www.neckarfoil.de/shop/equipment/
Vielen Dank für die Nachricht!!
welll done
Pro tip, don't inhale carbon fiber dust
Yes, you are absolutely right! The grinding dust of the carbon fiber is respirable and a breathing mask should therefore be worn.
Tip: the grinding dust can be reduced by wet grinding.
too complex: 2 hardwood sticks (2.1cm x 2.1cm x 60cm) screwed and glued 9cm apart for supporting the mast foot onto 3.3mm plywood - plus 2cm XPS laminated with 2 sheets of glass fabric (160g/m2) on bottom and sides + 1 sheet of glass fabric on top - Is sufficient. Thus at about 65€ and lighter weight too.
That sounds no less complex than simply using a wood core. But yes, using the hardwood strips as reinforcement is a great idea! And definitely more lightweight!