War in Ukraine: how far will Putin go?
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- Vladimir Putin’s war against Ukraine is devastating the country and its people. How far will he go? Our experts discuss the threat of escalation, from the use of nuclear weapons to attacks beyond Ukraine.
00:00 - How far will Putin go?
00:32 - A war of escalation
01:34 - Nuclear weapons are on the table
02:44 - NATO vs Russia
04:10 - NATO is bound together by article 5
05:32 - What is going on in Putin’s head?
06:42 - What could the West offer Putin?
08:30 - What’s the mood in Russia?
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A brief history of Ukrainian heroes: econ.st/35VXuGy
Older men declare war. But it is the youth that must fight and die. My heart goes out to every single Ukrainian and Russian soldier who has been hurt because of this, we don’t need war we need peace 😔
Alexander was 20, Napoleon 27, Augustus 18. Let's stop with these banalities.
Peace? There are proxy wars happening around the world even before this war started. There are political assassinations and political espionage going on around the world also. As long as money and politics exist there won't be any Real peace.
The war has been going on for a long time. But they didn't tell you about her. And if they did, it was only what was beneficial to your authorities. For ten years, artillery shelled peaceful cities every day. Now this artillery is being destroyed. But it is not profitable for those who stand above you. And they told you it was a brutal war. Because they will no longer be able to continue shelling, inciting peoples against each other. I understand that no one will provide you with truthful information. But thinking that you stand for a peaceful life, you find yourself at one with the murderers.
@@MrMJmusicLover Well there's no reason to ever care about anything then.
@@erosgritti5171 you do know that before the industrial revolution most people only lived up to their 40s, right? militarymen died even before because countries were just always in wars?
Don't worry about a graceful exit for Putin. An anecdote from Brezhnev's time: Napoleon stands at the military parade in the USSR, side by side with Brezhnev, while reading a newspaper. Murat jumps to him "Your Majesty, look! If we had such guns, we would not lose Waterloo battle" Napoleon does not answer. Murat jumps again "Your Majesty, if we had such tanks, we would not lose Waterloo battle!" Napoleon does not answer. Murat jumps the third time: "Your Majesty, if we had such rockets, we would not lose Waterloo battle!" Napoleon stops reading the newspaper "Pravda" and answers: "If we had such a newspaper, nobody would ever know that we lost Waterloo battle" EOA. Note: translation of "Pravda" = "Truth"
Top shelf. Cheers.
DON'T DISRESPECT NAPOLEON LIKE THAT. He's one of the best of all time
@@boymande On the opposite, this anecdote paints him as a very clever person who sees to the roots.
The real enemy is China. Let’s ally with Russia and get the Russians to help us take out the Chinese.
Russia is Christian. China murdered millions with their coronavirus bioweapon.
This invasion of Ukraine is peanuts compared to Most Evil Satan China’s coronavirus bioweapon.
Russia is not the enemy. China is the real enemy.
And CNN was ever so truthful in declaring proof available with them that Iraq was making nuclear weapons, 9/11 was master minded by them and Iraqi hospitals and schools were never bombed ...
My biggest worry is that even if Putin ends up in a situation where he is absolutely going to lose in Ukraine, I don't know that he can take that kind of loss on the chin without lashing out with nuclear weapons.
Indeed, this is why am extreme level of sophistication is required from leaders, who understand how the other side thinks and can come to a reconciliation. The mainstream narrative of “Bad Putin, bad Russia”, will not achieve that.
I agree.
@@michael57603 Exactly. Sure it plays to the audience, but the real world situation is much more complex than that.
then let him do it, if he wants to see his country in nuclear fallout "most to say the world" that's his choice for making this conflict bigger because his pride and ego of His so called "Iron curtain Motherland" deemed invincible to the world?
little does he know he may have Nukes pointed at the u.s.?
well, we have nukes already prepared for this situation, his people that praise him will suffer, i just feel bad for the people who revolt Against His Ideoligies.
if the war is not interfered by other countries, a massive country can take down a small country essily. So i do not forsee the result of Russia losing out in this battle. If others try to merge in, then nuclear missles are served and a new world war is happening.
Ernest Hemingway: Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime.
@@ninotitan Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen
@@patrickmccutcheon9361
Agreed, Russia were killing civilians in all those countries!
He'll go as far as the World lets him of course.
What intel has said this?
He'll go as far as the NATO lets him.
He is playing the biggest mind game ever and his ego may see the downfall of Russian federation
It's a done deal. His army in Ukraine is being destroyed. He is all in, 100%, and he is unable to reach his objectives. There is no strategic reserve left in this theater. In order to make significant advances and actually control the country, he needs a brand new army and he don't have one sitting on the Ukraine border any more. He has to move units from other theaters, they have to be loaded on trains, they have to be assembled and sorted out... You are talking a lot of time involved, not to mention physical effort and money.
I can’t believe we are going through this again. It’s all too much
I have been worrying that this will keep escalating (due to crossing some line due to lethal aid or the crashing of the Russian economy) until it ends with the end of the world. And unfortunately Im having trouble seeing any way we dont end up there.
It is all very worrying...I hope we find a way to avoid the end of the world!
I'm the same all I think is nuclear war will happen
Putin trolls threatening nukes are telling me that Putin wants to end the world and take his supporters with him. Putin supporters are so miserable and unhappy they want to die with Putin.
NATO just has to stay out of the area. Ukraine just needs to stay neautral.
I agree with you, WW3 has never before seemed so possible
The fact that we get free documentaries on UA-cam by The Economist is truly a gift 👍
Yes I was going to say the same thing
Freedom is wonderful
If something is free, you are the product.
Free waffle.
@@AdmiralBonetoPick unless you use adblocker, then only those without it are the product
Far enough to destroy himself and Russia
I think he’s going to try to take the world with him.
The only thing Putin wants is a guarantee that NATO will not expand to his borders.
@@jeffrey3024 if so not necessary to invade and hurting so many people
@@hongkong4235 because you are west people right?
@@hongkong4235 then why was West pushing Ukraine to join EU and NATO??
I don’t see any resolution to this. If he is not taken out there can never be any resolve for Russia as a nation which has innocent citizens as does Ukraine.
This is some of the best analysis I have seen, but there is one minor point I a disagree on - I think The Economist has a bit of a blind spot regarding UK's influence on the world stage and appears to overstate it a bit. The UK has spent the last five years economically painting itself into a corner and hasn't been putting any serious effort into world-stage diplomacy in that time either, resulting in a much diminished world stage presence. Of the major western powers, it's Germany, France and the USA who are in frequent contact with Russia, not so much the UK at the moment.
I agree with you however even U.S Germany or France will not get directly involved . Also check today's news Biden has stoped Poland for giving aircrafts to Ukraine.
It seems Ukraine has been betrayed by west and use. And they have given a clean path to Russia to aquair because isriel has brushed aside Biden and is supporting russia in there vested intrest I.e. economic reason
Because Russia murdered and attempted to poison. The UK has recent history with Russia, Germany and France do not.
@@humayunkabir9279 Biden didn’t stop Poland giving aircraft to Ukraine. Poland can do that, but Poland wanted the US to give them to Ukraine. All of the weapons that have been sent to Ukraine are defensive weapons, but aircraft are offensive weapons and that could bring NATO into the war.
This is an analysis made by pencil pushers. Talk is ALL they can do. Do you really think that a pencil pusher is going to scare Putin! Putin only understands power! That is why he bullies everyone around! The ONLY argument Putin can understand is force! Ukraine has already proved to the whole world that Putin's army is a joke but the west is still shaking in their boots. It's a SHAME!!! Children, women are being killed! It is time to commit! Miss Ukraine has enlisted!!! I am an American but right now I am embarrassed to be one if this is how we defend western values!
The UK is so out of touch, gossip about and charges against royalty seems to be the only thing that really concerns them.
If there is anything I have learned these past 2 years is that anything is possible.
Agreed ! I have been tormented over the last two years by state’s organs conspiring with criminals to scam all my money from online trading platform and incarcerated me for 3 weeks. …. Russia may reward all unfriendly politicians with nuclear weapons soon
So, if someone in his inner circle decides to get rid of him then there will be a greater chance of the war coming to an end?
I somehow doubt it. Whoever does it would be seen as caving into Western pressure. Whether most Russians would see that as weakness or prudence isn't clear.
There will be a revolt within his Govt, soon.
Doubtful. He has them in the palms of his hands. As Arkady said, they know all too well that if Putin goes down, they're all going down with him.
Nope, has people behind him waiting to replace him are even more drastic and fanatics.
Probably not. There aren't any democratic liberals at senior levels in the Russian government. Furthermore, the Russian population broadly supports Putin and the war. If Putin goes, another person like him will probably be next in line.
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you.
Excellent coverage, thank you!
Thank you for providing your insights, The Economist.
vlad is sitting there thinking exactly that - how far can i push it till someone with a big army fights back?
Actually was the other way around, NATO tried to find how far they could push until they would get some form of push back from Russia, which happened in 2014, we then signed the Minsk2 agreements and continued without respecting it, so after repeated yearly warnings from Russia but total ignorance from us, here we are now, blaming the other side for reacting at our actions.
@@johnmuthan286 Do you have any specific examples of NATO attacks on Russia? Or just vague claims.
@@spacetoast7783 are you joking or simply don't know geopolitical history of this region over the past 3 decades despite our negotiations with Russia. Did you have a look at the "official" military drills conducted since 2018 over the Baltic countries and Poland, and these are the official ones. Did you ever have q look at the Minsk2 agreements? Finally and none the least important, tell me why would USA make everything to stop the northstream2 pipeline since the early stages of the project?
@@johnmuthan286 Please just answer the question. It's starting to seem like you don't have an answer.
How are we pushing Russia? Why couldn't they just let Ukraine choose its own path?
Last statement is best “he is risking not just destroying Ukraine, he is seriously risking destroying Russia itself”.
Very true
AND THE WHOLE WORLD
There is some speculation he has a terminal illness. It seems he's quite willing to take everyone down with him.
@@okzoomer5728 yup. I read that
@British Empire I am witnessing the fall of the UK.
Thank you, people from all over the world, for support in such a difficult time 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
It’s precious for Ukrainians
❤️🇺🇦
Russia attacked Ukraine and planned to take it quickly. But the Ukrainian people heroically defend their country. Glory to Ukraine!
I'm Irish we know of oppression. I'm praying Nato give Ukraine the planes and weapons because this won't stop at Ukraine. I'm praying for Ukraine to win for freedom of everyone 🙏
Uraaa Rusia 🇷🇺 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
@@revoamazing2446 F Russia
The center of Europe has moved to Kiev.
I don’t believe you can deal with an irrational man rationally.
Exactly, that comedian is supposed to unite all citizens, protect its citizens from war, and develop own country. Unfortunately, he only knows to satisfy own egos by sacrificing whole country.
Bush and Blair were cold and calculated in their destruction of the middle east. does that make them better than putin?
hypocrite.
Yeap, Putin has find that since 2014, hence after politely and repetidly asking our irrational leaders to respect the Minsk2 agreements, he just decided that enough was enough.
@@willsmith9626 Middle East was already highly unstable, my dude. Learn some history.
@@spacetoast7783 you should learn history
WW1 & WW2, When One country invades another it's a domino effect.
Yeah I think it would be great to hear from you soon pal in LA for a break from the whole thing but I think I can take a look at the end of the way the whole thing is going to be secure or free of any initial dislike towards the Russians to be secure or cold and wet but unfortunately it is not likely to be secure or free of any initial and final settlement of the way the end of the world has ever seen.
You are right. End of the planet.
End of Ukraine is confirm.
@@esterbaque7757 The planet will survive.
@@helenpauls1496 Are you sure about that????
The Russian military is much less confident and motivated than Putin's trolls are on the Internet.
What I have learned in a book called "the art of thinking clearly" by Rolf Dobelli, is that no one, no matter how expert, knows what is going to happen, all is based in suppositions, may be smart ones but suppositions whatsoever.
The future is possible! Reality is past!
suppositions are close to impossibles
Its a really tough situation and anything can happen at any point in time which could completely collapse the current logistics of what we think is going to happen.
Seems like Russia is in dire need of a new leader these days.
And the new leader will bring peace by letting another country play with Border security of their country.. Grow up and see the world map research a bit
@@xyzyyy34 Time for Putin to go.
@@truss6282 time for Biden to go. Also Ukraine's President
"War always escalates".
Very important to keep in mind. 🤔
I hope things get better, feel so sad for the lives of the civilians out there. 🥺
I don't know why people hate peace and peacefull lives. Its just disgusting. Stay strong ukrainian. Support from🇮🇳to🇺🇦.
India 🇮🇳 support 🇷🇺
Nobody hates Peace.. But if someone will interfere in another country's security.. Action will be taken..
@@xyzyyy34 And we cannot do it
No one hates peace. But some people live power and control more...
I find it really pathetic that Russia, which is by far the largest country on earth, is picking fights with smaller countries like Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova over little patches of territory at such great cost to themselves. Truly there is no bottom to their greed.
It’s not the land it’s the resources
It's in their nature... that's why they are the largest country in the world... they always tried to occupy. Modern day russia actually started in Kiev...
@@davidmaly5464 that’s like saying modern day France started in Aachen. Technically correct, but irrelevant
it is not only land and resources, but strategic importance. NATO missiles and troops in Ukraine is an existential threat to Russia.
Exactly as USA, the cruelty of superpowers they destroy what they want and there is no way to stop them.
This was great 👍 thank you for publishing!
But it’s really worrying times my daughter and her partner are over there in Ukraine
I'm Ukrainian. Ukraine will never give up because we love our country and we fight for it. Hope that everything will be OK soon.
Ukraine will fight for truth, independence and love. Ukraine is not Russia and NEVER will be part of it.
I'm Australian and we fully support Ukraine's fight for freedom from Putin.
@@Begining2013 Nope, Aussies broadly stand against NATO encroaching on the perimeters of Russia and agitating. We wish Ukraine the best but NATO has got to go.
Dear Vladislav, we all support Ukraine , but your governors miscalculated the results of the war believing that Nato will support them forever.
tell your government to stop dancing with NATO, cause that what u will certainly get, “CONFLICT”. These westerners are pure evil, nowhere better than putin, west is just in an advantage because they control all media! Ukraine is better off a neutral country, I know ukraine can prosper without NATO. Ukraine can get through this dark times
It must be entirely foreigners that I saw on TV who fled in millions
One of the hardest thing about this situation Putin remains behind closed door and gives orders whilst people are dieing
i read that his family are in a bunker...
I really hope the U.S has technology to dispatch him and make it look like natural causes
@@frenchonion4595 I really hope the U.S has technology to find the WMD it claims exist in Iraq.
@otto Lincoln Those Ukrainians deserve to suffer because of Iraq? Real warped thinking there bud.
@@charlethemagne5466 He said nothing of the sort. You spin yourself into a warped mental state.
He's 70 years old. I doubt he has anything to lose. In fact he already lost his county. Russian economy is already at lowest point it's ever been. I think he don't care. And in the end... He will go out with the BANG.
He could live until 90 for all you know.
Yes, the average Russian male life expectancy is low, but that's a misleading, misused statistic.
He doesn't look in terrible condition for his age, and irrationality aside, looks at least as sharp as most other politicians his age.
We have to assume that he will continue to be around, and be a problem, for the foreseeable future.
@mavvi The source for the Parkinsons claim is the same guy who said Putin was standing down last year.
i.e. don't believe everything you read in a tabloid newspaper or UA-cam channel.
I read Putin has cancer, and its an aggressive type. If thats true, he has nothing to lose. So NATO Vs. Russia seems possible
he has family though...i would assume he loves them though
@@bjarkejohnsen9185 There's a lot of claims about Putin, most of them untrue or contradictory, and/or wishful thinking.
It's best to be skeptical about these things, until we have solid evidence.
As some of Russians watching the Economist I certainly must say that it’s always been one of the best sources. This exact report is totally legit
Sadly, most of them can't. Putin banned some platforms including Utube. Now Putin achieve to cutoff internet Russians to the outside world like CCP do.
@@jessegriffin9 Да нет, интернет есть и хороший! Ютуб все также работает, не знаю что вы там уже придумали, но у нас пока все в норме
I think other wise because economists give there prospective not the real story because it gives U.S point of view
@@mycafe6454 We have been told that Roskomnadzor banned you from the BBC, Twitter and Facebook. Is this not true? Or do you just mean that everything is fine with UA-cam?
@@wubbalubbadubdub7597 можно на русском, please
Great analysis! Very profound and logic.
Very interesting.
This war, as a geopolitical maneuver, is frightening. The reason being is that NATO itself is being tested. In the event things escalate outside of Ukrainian borders, the only way to avoid nuclear armageddon will be for NATO to back down, thus rendering it ineffective. This will not only give Russia more confidence, but will also give China the impetus to invade Taiwan. Let us be reminded that the League of Nations' exposure as paper-power was a prerequisite to the Second World War.
Or an another way, that the EU becomes a superpower with US. I think then Putin would back down.
Nato is not the league of nations, the league of nations was more like the UN which is a paper power. However Nato is backed by US military spending and huge economies like never before. Also seeing how things are going in Ukraine it is more likely that putin will be the one to back down frist probably for some compromise that Ukraine never joins nato. The big problem is Ukrainian sentement against Russia, This war will go down in history and i doubt Russia will ever expand its influence as much in Ukraine for a long time especially if they keep their independence
@@klarnorbert Or the EU becomes it's own superpower. THE UNITED STATES OF EUROPE.
@@MrMJmusicLover I wouldn't start war with all 4M soldiers in EU countries, that's for sure :)
Hypocrisy of the WEST,DO YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT real indiscriminate shelling and war crimes looks like? you hypocrite lying western media? go look at Iraq, Syria Libya ,bunch of Hypocrites ,US and their western lying corrupt media ,how about 3,6 million Iraqis dead? 500,000 Children alone. 20 years 17 million people US and it's western civilized allies killed in ME? over a LIE with a VILE OF SALT in UN, you have nerve to criticize Russia? Baby dead? is it like that Kuwaiti Ambassador's daughter testifying after been coached by US pr firm saying "Iraqis killing babies in Incubators" I do not believe one word US media tells me, we remember WMD's too
Echos of the Past
Women,Children,boarding trains
Not knowingwhere they will go
Fathers,& husband's staying behind
To fight for freedom one last time
Germany,Polland,France,USA All over the world United as 1,1 mankind
These trains of freedom Not like the past
These trains hold safe passage for mothers,daughters,and sons
Refuge at last
Take in all these people from Ukraine
Show the world we have learned from the past
That we will never return to echos of the past
ECHO, ECHO, ECHO GO VLAD!
OK, but please let a space after the punctuation signs.
I think most people must realize there will be no lasting diplomatic solution.
There are tons of thoughtful analysis, but in the end they all boil down to Putin being a bully that has never been stopped, and the rest of the class discussing if they should oppose to him, or just keep quiet.
Putin is bad but so does US. Remember Iraq? Syria? Iran? Afghanistan? West is hypocritical as Russia.
@@anhbayar11 Do you know what "whataboutism" is? Go, google it...
Nah, Putin is just paranoid. The Azov Batallion kept breaking the treaty and being provacateurs. A NATO alliance that has Azov batallion on its borders is unacceptable. The invasion is a tragedy, immoral nonetheless.
He is protecting his country.. Will u be okay if some other country becoming threat to ur security.. Why Ukraine never stopped being puppet of America.. It all started 2014 still that comedian president didn't understand anything.
@@TheAlchaemist and you should go google "Hypocrisy"
It makes me happy to see The Economist has 2.3 million subscribers. We must support journalism.
@Forgiven Redemption
Refute the reporting, or accept that you are pathetic!
Listen to Kasparov. He’s been getting it right for a decade. If NATO intervenes, Putin may escalate, but he will lose. If NATO does nothing, Putin will escalate until NATO has no choice but to intervene. The only difference is that the longer NATO waits, the greater the damage and the higher the cost.
Anyone who wants nato to intervene is brain dead. Asking for WW3
there is nothing really sure about the outcome when you have to evaluate things like chemical or nuclear weapons. You can not predict anything anymore, when conventional war is going to the next stage.
We needs a counter for all weapons in his armory. There can't be any available path to a Putin victory, and for each loss there must be a path to an even deeper one.
He is threatening with every weapon he has available, military in reserve (e.g. against Baltic states), nuclear weapons, Grozny-style total warfare in Ukraine, economic (oil, food, minerals), hacking, subversion, political (e.g. restarting Yugoslav wars). If he thinks this will lead him to victory (or a lesser loss), he will use any or all of them. He *will* fight to the last Russian.
@@aks99-4 Not intervening may be as dangerous or more dangerous than not intervening.
I think you should listen to John Mearsheimer too. He actually proposes a resolution (along the lines of declaring Ukraine a neutral state). The challenge is that each side doesn’t want to lose face. High stakes negotiation involves a degree of emotional intelligence that is simply above most political leaders.
A very worrying time!
Excellent analysis. I'm impressed.
The real situation is that people in Russia don't want war. We really understand that it is against our interests. And the understanding, that would's attitude to Russians is dramatically changing suffering me...
Most people understand that this is Putin's war not Russia's war. Though you guys really do need to pick better leaders. You've kind of had a bad run for 100 years now.
You’re minority. 71% of russians support Putin
@@aydintm maybe. How many Russians telling the truth about how they feel if they think they're going to be jailed or worse?
@@rathelmmc3194 I’m not from Russia, but from ex-soviet country. I know that propoganda works well there, they genuinely think they’re fighting with fascism! They think it’s a game organized by foul west and the russians are victims, that’s why they should send their children to a war to protect themselves.
@@aydintm CCP China also has the Chinese people just as much if not more so indoctrinated brainwashed into sheeple lemming muppet zombie parrots of the state.
The bully doesn't want to talk. He wants to completely break down the spirit of the person who defies him and make him kneel and surrender.
HE TALKED; NO-ONE LISTENED; GO VLAD!
you just described the history of the US.
Interesting Analysis :)
The correct question should be "How far will NATO go eastwards?"
My boy has not been sleeping. He's looking more and more tired every video lol
The saddest thing about present conflict is knowing that both most Russian people and most people of Ukraine want nothing to do with this. It's just the government systems 🙏🏽 😣 🙏🏽 😣 🙏🏽
False. The majority of Russian live in a racist delusional world were they see themselves as the major power with the right to subjugate their former colonies. They are mentally in the same place the British empire was 300 years ago. They refuse the realty they are a third world country with nuclear weapons and a gang thief and grifters as rulers.
Yes
Plz make that call n stop.this war 🙏
Do not be foolish enough to fight a war for a leader who stays at the comfort of his own room. This is the 21st century, a time when we all should have learned that leaders are not gods.
Agreed Russian soldiers go home! Ukraine 🇺🇦 is not Russia. Take back your OWN country from the corrupt old men who have stolen it from you. Drown the rat Putin!
I am wondering if the associates of Putin have family and friends and if they are also concerned about a possible nuclear war.
I just watched a ytbe info saying Putin had moved his family in a bunker in Siberia (Atlas) past WE. Doesn't that sound remotedly familiar ?...
@@theresemartin3920 And what it will help you with you afterwards? Empty nuclear field and high pollution.
Fantastic discussion
We better have eyes on all boarders, including the ones which seem to be safe. We can focus on the hitspots, but we need to have insight in the whole game. How approachable are we from the sea for example?
Excellent commentary. Thank you.
Putin plays chess. I’m just hoping he doesn’t play the “up board” move.
'Up dog' would be worse
No, he's awful at strategy, he's make a lousy chess player
@@RoZaxTheGreat (here we go)... whats up dog?
@@hubbleenjoyer800 nothing much, how about you?
@@RoZaxTheGreat ba dum tss
I was trying to find the answer on Google but couldn't get it.
Does anyone know how many troops (or percentage of the total army) Russia has remaining back home not involved in the Ukraine war?
Google Russian Army Size, get number subtract 150K. Depends what you count... active army size 850K, so still 700K left perhaps. But again, depends what you count (like Reserves? Conscripts? Administrative staff?) and depends how accurate the public data is. Asking for a friend?
Thumbnail is legendary
I think he will keep it going for as long as possible. Clearly he does not care about the costs.
I mean, not if the costs are minimal. Sanctions only work on a small country which doesn’t supply natural resources to almost every country in the world, with countries depending on those resources entirely from Russia. Russia is a super power on the map (geopolitically) and can’t just be “sanctioned”
@@abdullahnaji7106 Wait and see.
@@helveticaification countries are already siding with Russia purely because of their gas.
@@abdullahnaji7106 Every day the direct cost of waging the war for Russia is said to be $20 billion (for an economy a tenth the size of the US) and costing the lives of between 50-1,000 soldiers (depending upon whom you believe). Sometime soon the sanctions will start to bite.
@@gallaxian not unless they create a new economic system.
This from the people who committed genocide in Libya, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.
The first rule of war should be that whoever proclaims war needs to go and fight on the front first….
I doubt we’d have many wars in this case..
Yeah you right and it really worries me I have got family over there at Ukraine
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Russia couldn't beat Ukraine with half a year prep time. Anyone who has paid the slightest bit of attention can see how sorry the Russian military forces are. If for some reason Putin did attack nato the Russian conventional forces would be decimated within a week. Obviously the nuclear arsenal is an issue but considering the state of every other peice of Russian equipment we've seen these last few days I myself will not lose any sleep over it.
If Putin is mad then none of this matters because a madman will do as he pleases regardless of reasons. If he is still sane then he can see the obvious and an attack on nato would be the end of Russia. Either way what will be will be and I won't overly worry about things I have no control over
I think the ars*hole has bitten off more than he can chew
@gerad Degot At the start of this 100%. I was just replying to this video in terms of the here and now. March 7th 2022 the Russian army couldn't take over a local playground without shelling the surrounding neighborhood to rubble. Before he showed his military to be smoke and mirrors the argument made perfect sense but now anyone with 2 eyes and half a brain has no fear of the non nuclear parts of Russia
The problem is if he is on the edge.
@@hhiippiittyy In all honesty I'm not. The only thing that worries me is cold calculation and that his math is wrong. From everything I've read about him and his forces everything up to full nuclear war is on the table. From my understanding even small tactical nukes are fair game as a first strike. My worry is that he underestimates the west and deploys either a tactical nuke or chemical warfare with the assumption that the west won't respond appropriately. That's the only situation I could see quickly spiraling
The nuclear weapons are still a major factor. Its not sensible to just write them off like the rest of the military apparatus. They don't require the kinds of logistics of a large infantry or any real planning, and if even a handful are operational they can cause devastating damage to the world.
puck futin .
SLAVA UKRAINI.
He went as far as to put nukes on standby; so thats something.
Excellent discussion a the current crisis.
Ukraine will never agree to a carve out of territory. Should Britain give up territory? Should France and Germany?
NO
Hum…. Ireland (scotland?), Bavaria?, Basque Country?…. Every country in Europe has regional issues of not outright separatist. And yet didn’t the west help (and cheer) the breakup of Yugoslavia?
@@philippetsoukias833 what does that have to do with Ukraine? It doesn’t change the fact that Ukraine won’t accept those terms.
@@nukclear2741 my comment was regarding the original poster talking about carving territory, which other European countries have or struggle with.
Regarding Ukraine, they have already done so with Crimea. To a lesser extent part of the trigger of the war (from the Russians perspective) was the war on Russians in the east (Donbas) + the NATO redline.
Terms benefit everybody at this point, don’t let Ukraine become Chechnya 3.0
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2000 : Who is Putin?
2022 : Putin is Mr. Khuy!
Could it be via Zoom, or it has to be a telephone call?
Losing this war would be an existential threat to Putin's regime. However, so is getting into a war with NATO. Putin will do to Ukraine what he did to Chechnya even if it takes him 20 years. Rather than attacking a Polish arms depot and risking an article 5 action, he'll seal off Ukraine's western border to stop military aid.
How many people will be required to seal off that border?
@@quintrankid8045 Putin's got plenty.
@@danielschein6845 did you also predict putin would invade Ukraine? I sure did and a lot of people laughted at me before it happended
Then he encounters another existential threat: the complete suffocation of his country via sanctions and a possible overthrow of the government.
He’s going for broke, and his only hope is that the west capitulates in time.
@@and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all I didn't think he'd go for broke with a full scale invasion like this. I thought Crimea was step one in taking over Ukraine one little piece at a time. I also thought he would find ways to destabilize any government in Kiev that he didn't like and replace it with one he did. The full scale invasion was a huge risk. You were right and I was wrong.
The longer this conflict goes on without any repercussion, the more confidence and drive Putin will feel to do more.
Mistake is of Ukraine.. Why he trusted America and NATO.. No country is gonna let them play with their security..
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pretty sure the opening shot was a bunch of airsofters lol
It doesn’t matter the outcome of this war, he’s done for
But what would the Republican party do without their leader?😂😂😂
He is going all the way, if he didnt budge for the sanctions he is not budging at all. Everyone else needs to toughen up snd address him directly if you know what i mean.
SANCTIONS WHILE THEY[EU AND USA] ARE STILL PAYING HIM BILLIONS FOR OIL; HE DOES NOT CARE; HE IS A SCHWAB RECRUIT FROM WAY BACK - ALL IN THE NWO PLAN; GO VLAD!
There is a bullet somewhere with his name on it.
Okh.. And what about nato and America..??
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Opponents? You mean enemies? You know WAR is not a GAME?
I don't know, but his list of demands didn't include full surrender, I suspect he's looking for an offramp but still come out looking like he won.
the biggest disaster is not this war, it is that population on this planet will keep on increasing.
overpopulation is the driver of climate change.
If putin can reduce the world population by 5 billion to save the human race, he is a legend.
@@vsstdtbs3705 DUDE NO OVERPOP; NO CLIM CHANGE; YOU ARE, SADLY, MISINFORMED [GO VLAD!]
@@cutpricetech no overpopulation and no climate change. then you say i am misinformed. whatever.
I catch a lot of flak when I post how bad it is for Russians in Ukraine. 100% of Putin's pre-invasion force concentration along the border with Ukraine has been committed to battle. There is no Russian strategic reserve in this theatre. Just to maintain their positions, the Russians require an enormous supply chain, replacement armor, and replacement support and supply vehicles. They don't have enough, and their only option at some point will be to hold themselves in defensive positions where they maintain contact unit to unit all the way back their original assembly areas in Belarus.
Hahahahaha!
How do you know this?
I'm can't believe I'm hearing this
The question is how far all countries will go. Back in May 2020 this was public On Wednesday, China took up one of Russia’s long-held lines of attack, suggesting that Covid-19 originated in American-owned biolabs in the former Soviet bloc. Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang told the state-owned news channel CGTN, “The United States has created many laboratories in the territory of the former Soviet Union, which evokes serious public worries in the neighboring countries concerned.”
Geng echoed remarks made by Russia’s foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova on April 17. “We cannot ignore the fact that such infrastructure with a dangerous biological potential is built by the Americans in direct proximity to Russian borders,” she said.
Putin needs to be taken tf out. WYA Seal Team 6???? Treat Putin like Bin Laden.
How about Hillary and Biden and Obummer
@@christopherevans6428 ***Obomber***
@@christopherevans6428 Biden has dementia, he'll probably be found dead on the roadside because he was trying to talk to oncoming traffic
sas or sbs would be better.
@@WiseOne93 what r u saying? Be specific.
i feel so sorry for all of these people affected by the war, we're trying to help the best we can from Poland by taking in immigrants and supplying them with food, water, clothes and hygiene products but im scared that Putin will take it too far, he's a sick man and all we can do is hope for the best
Союз Нерушимый, Республик Свободных,
Сплотила навеки Великая Русь!
Да здравствует..
He's not sick, he's evil. Willfully evil. He knows full well what he is doing and proceeding with it, he knows the harm he is causing, and he does not care.
Poland 🇵🇱 has been fearless and compassionate in this Russian debacle. Cheers from the USA.
It is Zelinsky who is sick not Putin.
@@mycafe6454
Once again you use Google translate to appear Russian, but as you don't speak the language, the translation is slightly off every time. Why can't you be proud of where you are from and why pretend to be Russian?
where to negotiates ties among the countries & might be aviod downgrade some of & capabilities.
“As you know, madness is like gravity…all it takes is a little push.” ― The Joker
As per the Budapest Memorandum the US/UK do have an obligation to protect Ukraine since the latter willingly gave up nuclear weapons, what I don't understand is why aren't people taking it seriously
My understanding is that what it said was that each side would respect the borders of Ukraine, not that they would come to the aid of Ukraine if the other side did not respect the borders. Russia has broken the Memorandum for sure though.
@@rathelmmc3194 Gee, really !!!!
General Patton was right: the US and allies should have moved over Russia at the end of WWII.
The West had their opportunity to positively influence Russia after the break up of the Soviet Union. Did we see something akin to the Marshall plan? No. Why not? The West spent a huge amount during the cold war. I personally put it down to Western Russophobia. But now the chickens have come home to roost.
Don't you think Stalin would've fire that nuke if west even tried invading Russia US knows too well Russia will always be a threat to them
@@FizzFizzFizzFizzFizz Russia is not Afghanistan Putin would send nuclear submarines to the Atlantic ocean
@@JDDC-tq7qm I'm not advocating any military intervention here. I'm talking about the pre-Putin era during the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US could have worked with something like a Marshall Plan. These were the days after all Gorby was on Pizza Hut commercials. Different days indeed.
Should and could are very different. Besides, it won't be brutal at all, right?
90s Camrys with the 2.2L inline 4 cylinder in Ukraine: I'm immortal :]
The Art of War
The central question is not how far Putin will go
But how far Biden will go
And Putin already knows that answer which is what makes this so dangerous
this entire comment section are sheeps eating crumpets of propaganda.
there is absolutely no way for anyone including Jesus himself to wake people here in comment section.
110% brain washed, and groomed by global MSM medias........ while you call other nations brain washed.
this is the most whacked reality in real life.
ppl getting groomed into sheeps and then sheeps calling russia, china, and pretty much 98% of the world as being brain washed. LOL too funny.
There is an unspoken assumption in this video that appeasement and non-confrontation of Putin will give a better result. One only has to look at Syria to see this is not so. Driving Putin's forces back to Russia must be done.
It's complacency and appeasement on the part of the West that has brought us to this point, but the time to defend Ukraine was before the war began. The country should have been brought under the Nato umbrella years ago. A very clear line has been drawn by Nato and has to be reinforced, so Putin is in no doubt, that an attack on any Nato nation will bring down all our force on him. That's not appeasement, given the stakes. Now that Russia is at war in Ukraine, the commentators are making a very valid point that it would be only too easy for our backing of Ukraine to escalate into direct military confrontation with Russia. A hot war between Nato and Russia would lead inexorably to nuclear war within weeks. That's the end of most human life on the planet and our civilisation as we know it, so cool heads need to prevail, however frustrating for us and distressing for the Ukrainian people that might be. Now that we've all woken up to what we face, we should do our best not to give him the satisfaction of taking us all down with him, because we will win the long game.
@@thinkingaboutit2991 Putin loves his riches, he loves his power, he loves to think he is 'smarter' (actually more devious) than everyone else. He does not want to commit mutual suicide in my view, it is not a better option for him if he is able to keep all the things he loves instead. So, pushing him back to Russia would not be the extreme loss to him he makes out it would be.
asking admin about war strategy?
As far as it takes
"How far will Putin go? only ponders half of the problem. The other half that has been dreadfully ignored is "How far will NATO go?"
They are rather quiet, but I suspect when and if they do intervene, it will be with overwhelming force. The dog that does not bark is usually the most dangerous one.
@@miguelmorales4633 so you admit that nato is indeed a dog
hopefully all the way, our freedom is worth their existence
@@abdullaharshad5052 It's called a metaphor.
American nato is the worst i can see what putin is doing
“Nobody panics when things go “according to plan”. Even if the plan is horrifying!” ― The Joker 🃏
As far as they have to, it seems...I doubt they decided to challenge the greatest military power in world's history without having thought about this same question, and coming terms with the fact that Nuclear Power maybe the only way to level the field(s)...no pun intended.
The same thing was happening to me.