Creation in the Inner World

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  • @okestperson6016
    @okestperson6016 4 роки тому +276

    Maybe wyn has to focus on being in the headspace cause the brain is like ...must...keep...secret..... even though the cat has been out of the bag for a while. Humans are weird

  • @somedude172
    @somedude172 4 роки тому +179

    "so we all just kinda kumbaya'd together, and tried to focus on creating moana's grandma" there are few phrased i never thought I'd hear. this is one of them 😂 id so like to add that the outfit kim kim wore in this vid is cute as hell. it works really well with the new haircut too!

  • @libraryensemble2481
    @libraryensemble2481 4 роки тому +58

    "I don't know. Brains are weird" is my response to basically everything that has to do with my brain. 😂 - Savannah

  • @starssystem2932
    @starssystem2932 4 роки тому +117

    I am a simple alter.
    I see a notification from The Entropy System.
    I see something involving a wolf(which we have one of our own as well!).
    I favorite the video.
    -Jackson
    P.S. Kim-Kim you are a dork and I love you(platonically!) for it.

  • @meganolafsson9466
    @meganolafsson9466 4 роки тому +77

    “Sounds really biblical”. 😂 I snorted! Really looking forward to the rest of this video. ❤️

  • @neurodivergentnetizen4535
    @neurodivergentnetizen4535 4 роки тому +110

    Kim Kim, have you tried going to an animal shelter/pet store of some sort and getting an NPC animal there? Would that work?

    • @pacificzoo3186
      @pacificzoo3186 4 роки тому +26

      Neurodivergent Netizen I was totally thinking that too with how she explained the in the couch part. Obviously a dog is more intricate than furniture but the concept seems worth looking into

    • @MAashChick
      @MAashChick 4 роки тому +13

      Or just asking Ed and Oz for a big fluffy dog?

    • @likeabunnie
      @likeabunnie 4 роки тому +5

      Oh or he could be like a wild wolf who loves you, and you can not expect he will be in your room all the time, but if you want him, you can open your window and make a special whistle so he will come be with you :)

  • @chaotic_enby2625
    @chaotic_enby2625 4 роки тому +16

    as a maladaptive daydreamer it's really interesting to see how this is both very similar and very different at the same time.
    also that outfit is awesome^^

  • @tux_duh
    @tux_duh 4 роки тому +42

    As soon as kim kim mentioned coffee shops in the inner world I thought of a TV show like friends or something but based on the happenings of the inner world

    • @Luis-ej4ei
      @Luis-ej4ei 4 роки тому +12

      Now I'm imagining the actual TV show Friends as if they were all alters of the same system in their inner world haha

    • @uffda3937
      @uffda3937 4 роки тому +3

      Does anybody remember the show "Herman's Head" or am I just old?

    • @edwardlinehan7961
      @edwardlinehan7961 4 роки тому +6

      What if everyone with DID got so good at inner world meditation that we could just take planes from our inner worlds and travel to other inner worlds?

    • @hazeld8016
      @hazeld8016 4 роки тому +5

      @@edwardlinehan7961 that would be the coolest thing ever. Someone should write a book about that

    • @edwardlinehan7961
      @edwardlinehan7961 4 роки тому +2

      I am a writer. Thank u for the idea.
      Imma do that now.

  • @elliwesishawkins4799
    @elliwesishawkins4799 4 роки тому +229

    So if Oz is focusing on a fully functioning city could you call him a wizard.
    The wizard of Oz
    (Sorry not sorry)
    But I do find it interesting that your world needs to be focused on, when the island was made was that also very focused on to make sure it stayed intact?

    • @TheEntropySystem
      @TheEntropySystem  4 роки тому +56

      Wizard of Oz 🤣🤣🤣
      The island existed without anyone focusing on it, though it was much simpler in design than the city. Still, I’m not sure why the city takes so much effort. -Wyn

    • @cheetahtfk7274
      @cheetahtfk7274 4 роки тому +2

      Elliwesis, your comment deserves so many more "thumbs up" than it has right now!
      Wizard of Oz! That's brilliant lol

    • @elliwesishawkins4799
      @elliwesishawkins4799 4 роки тому +6

      The Entropy System I’m sure with so much happening effort is a given! I may need to go back and watch the first video where you talked about Ed and Oz, it may help shed more light on everything. I’ve been loving your videos and they help me understand better for my own partner who has DID!

    • @onidaaitsubasa4177
      @onidaaitsubasa4177 4 роки тому +7

      @@TheEntropySystem I'm thinking that Oz might be in charge of some kind of control system in his room that is mostly automated that runs the city, I know some systems, mine included, have a type of control center for the brain and memories and possibly for other things dealing with the body. From my experience the control center or mechanism isn't an actual individual like all our alters but is like a kind of OS that some of the alters in the system use to help the brain process memories and information, I'm sure the type of control center is different from system to system and can probably look or be interacted with differently depending on which system is using it. It would take too much effort for an alter to be running a whole city nonstop, unless that alter is an actual representation of the control center, which could be the case I suppose but they would probably be a very unique type of alter.

    • @jackson-zo8pt
      @jackson-zo8pt 4 роки тому +1

      the alter in charge of designing our innerworld is named Wizard! how fun

  • @ishriss2677
    @ishriss2677 4 роки тому +6

    For some reason the inner world functioning reminds me of the quote from "The Essence of Alan Watts Vol. 4: Death" (1975)
    "What I am saying then is just because you don’t know how you manage to be conscious, how you manage to grow and shape your body, doesn’t mean that you’re not doing it. Equally, if you don’t know how the universe shines the stars, constellates the constellations, or galactifies the galaxies - you don’t know but that doesn’t mean that you aren’t doing it just the same way as you are breathing without knowing how you breathe."

    • @TheEntropySystem
      @TheEntropySystem  4 роки тому +2

      That’s such a fascinating quote. -Wyn

    • @ishriss2677
      @ishriss2677 4 роки тому

      @@TheEntropySystem It's one of those quotes someone scooped up and used in a lofi mix and it's just honestly really interesting.
      The lofi song that uses the quote is Quickly, Quickly - getsomerest_sleepwell

  • @efoxkitsune9493
    @efoxkitsune9493 4 роки тому +25

    This is wild... I can't wrap my head around just how differently you guys experience the world from what I'm used to. It's honestly mind-blowing that the human brain is capable of all that. I too wish there were more studies on this subject.
    Thanks for talking about it, Kim Kim!

    • @ParanormalNewsToday
      @ParanormalNewsToday 4 роки тому +4

      Don't feel bad... we systems have trouble wrapping our heads around all of it too. DID is all about questioning your reality. Whether you want to or not...

  • @arielundrdasee4098
    @arielundrdasee4098 4 роки тому +43

    Actually awake for a video release! Yay!
    Loving Kim Kim’s style!

    • @adrianagarcia6427
      @adrianagarcia6427 4 роки тому +2

      Kim Kim seems much much older, like a young adult now. I don’t know how accurate this is but it’s the feeling I get.

    • @Monocultured01
      @Monocultured01 4 роки тому +5

      @@adrianagarcia6427 I think she aged up to be 20 a couple months back.

    • @edwardlinehan7961
      @edwardlinehan7961 4 роки тому +1

      I woke up to it. It's a good thing to wake up to

  • @AndreaRodriguez-tb5br
    @AndreaRodriguez-tb5br 4 роки тому +12

    I love how KimKim has changed for the better! I can see her more aproachable and bright!! Love her so much!! 💕

  • @goblinguy3103
    @goblinguy3103 Рік тому +3

    Every once in a while we come back to this video so we feel less fake. Honestly we feel so disconnected from the inner world at most times (especially when fronting) and this helps keep up grounded

  • @leedraconis5793
    @leedraconis5793 4 роки тому +2

    All we’ve been able to do it decorate our “black blob” lol. It looks like a small, cozy room now. Apparently this room is not the entire inner world, which I don’t have access to as the host 😪

  • @fleecygreen3803
    @fleecygreen3803 4 роки тому +5

    I find it interesting to compare this imaginatory headspace world with the daydream worlds i made as a kid. sometime after i hit puberty i stopped being able to make such vivid landscapes and sometimes i miss it. i cant help but wonder if DID has some effect on maintaining that imaginative ability through adulthood.

  • @RainbyFIN
    @RainbyFIN 4 роки тому +14

    To be honest I'm so jealous of systems that are able to have any kind of permanent NPCs in the first place, because we can't. I've tried and they're always very, *very* temporary. Me and another alter have called them 'projections' because like projected images, they don't/can't exist on their own, they will disappear as soon as nobody is purposefully making sure they exist and react to things aka 'projecting' them. We have heard or seen some kind of a common bird from far away sometimes and stuff like that's sadly about it when it comes to having animals in the nature our inner world majorly consists of, it's just very empty feeling.

    • @purplehood8418
      @purplehood8418 4 роки тому +4

      FINK1tty I’m a singleton and can’t truly empathize with having a system but what your describing reminds me of when I’m lucid dreaming. Most of the time I just roll my eyes and realize, oh, this is a dream, it’s really weird, but I just have to wait until it ends. But sometimes when I’m lucky I can create people, or get them to do something, or create an object. But it takes all of my concentration and it’s usually really draining. Sometimes the thing I create will stay with me until the end of my dream or it will sort of melt or crumble, especially if it’s an object I’m holding.
      I’ve looked at a lot of DID videos from all types of systems and the inner world sounds so much like the unconscious made somewhat conscious. The creation, the uncertainty of some spaces and people, the various themes and ideas seem like being in a state of dreaming. It’s also like 3-ish in the morning and I might be projecting a bit but I’ve been thinking about this for a long time.

  • @revolution724
    @revolution724 4 роки тому +17

    Kim Kim! That outfit really suits you, especially with the new hairstyle!

  • @loveme_or_not5295
    @loveme_or_not5295 4 роки тому +10

    Your videos and other DID youtubers have made me so interested in psychology. Brains are so weird. You had this horrible trauma as a kid and your brain cant cope so it makes other beings in your mind. LIKE WHAT. That sounds so made up but its REAL. Did fascinates me to no end. Love you guys ❤❤

  • @SchlattIRL
    @SchlattIRL 4 роки тому +12

    Okay so omg
    We had a pretty big progression, though again we're polyfragmented so I kind of just assumed it progressed because we continued getting new people so obviously the headspace would evolve with it.
    Disclaimer; A lot of "new people" were really just people in other layers of the system coming to the Main layer, the hub, the one that controls the body more, idk how to explain that.
    Anyways, we started out with just a living room and it had about maybe 10 people in it. When we grew to 30, it became a small house with a hallway stretching to everyone's rooms.
    Then it became a bigger house with more hallways.
    And then it became a house inside a neighbourhood that we can go out into to do things, buy things (you know when you mentioned not having money in the inner world I kind of just... I'm not sure if we do either unless it's part of a daydream? We maladaptive daydream as well, so it's basically just the same as going to the bathroom in movies, unless it's important enough for the daydream money doesn't exist.)
    I kind of also thought the whole going into the "outside" (what we call the NPC land of headspace since it feels more like Alters live inside the house and NPCs live outside) was just our maladaptive daydreaming and it was some form of comfort, but like it's so nice to know other people also do it and it's not some weird thing. We're pretty sure it's not all md anymore and only the active daydreaming is vs the fact NPCs exist passively and there's a world outside. Though because we daydream and we're polyfragmented, an alter can get attached to an NPC enough that when something happens and we do end up forming someone new, it's just the NPC going from Daydream Character to Full Blooded Alter, so that's always been weird.
    We have an alter in charge of the NPCs, the outside world, the daydreams, etc. He was one of the first alters too, so that's been his job the entire time.
    Also it might just be because we maladaptive daydream and have since the body was just a small child, but we (actually only a certain Type of Alter, but we have a few of those, including me) can pretty much spawn NPCs really easily. Also some alters can still manifest things out of thin air without going outside, but I kind of chalk that up to "The brain says they need to stay at home" or maybe like Matthew, "This alter is all powerful and fully capable of protecting everyone so why wouldn't they be fully capable of just creating things? They're invincible." or even "They have more control over headspace than others".
    - Jamie

    • @SchlattIRL
      @SchlattIRL 4 роки тому +3

      Also I'm so sorry we keep leaving essays on your videos, it's a trauma response, we tend to heavily over share now.
      - Jamie

  • @carginfer2353
    @carginfer2353 4 роки тому +4

    Every time you talk about the inner world it reminds me of a book called "Seraphina" and how the main character has an inner "garden" that she has to tend to every day, with different characters that have different levels of awareness. She needs to enter in order to check on how these characters are doing because they each have their designated place in the garden and they sometimes wander away from it. I think they are also related to "suppressed memories". I don't think I can say any more without spoiling the book but the more I think about the more it sounds like it is a representation of DID. It could just be a coincidence but I think you should check it out, the book is awesome anyways (and it's about dragons!).
    Have a nice day :)

  • @jordynbrocksmith912
    @jordynbrocksmith912 4 роки тому +6

    Brains are so hecking weird but I'm happy to hear everything is going smoothly for you guys

  • @savannam.7048
    @savannam.7048 4 роки тому +24

    Wow. How fascinating! Thank you for sharing with us. It must be a little frustrating to have lost some of that creation ability. I wonder if you'll ever figure out the whys or why nots? I wonder if Oz and/or Ed could create a wolf friend for you with some state of permanence? Interesting!

  • @Dobbyjuliet
    @Dobbyjuliet 4 роки тому +3

    I NEED “I have the how’s, even if I dont have the why’s” on a shirt! 🤣

  • @GetDerezzed
    @GetDerezzed 4 роки тому +2

    As a system that has a Warhammer 40K fictive, a Space Wolf in particular, this makes us INSANELY happy. For Russ and the All-Father!

  • @utatoners
    @utatoners 4 роки тому +18

    for once im so glad to see an upload in the middle of the night, we cant sleep due to certain memories and this is a great distraction, thanks Entropy!

    • @edwardlinehan7961
      @edwardlinehan7961 4 роки тому +1

      I hope that improves for you, bud.

    • @ParanormalNewsToday
      @ParanormalNewsToday 4 роки тому

      Oh man, we thought we were the only ones. The wee hours are hell. /system hugs

  • @sammy431
    @sammy431 4 роки тому +16

    Holy crap, style goals to the max Kim Kim!
    Our headspace is kind of similar to how it worked for you guys on the island in some ways? We have our Hub, which is like. A coffee shop front, with a room for the littles, and a sensory calm room, and a backyard with a playground and a pond. We cannot go out the front door, though we can see out it (it’s just a road and across the street is another little park area). We can’t really change a whole lot in the Hub - we have a movie and book area that we can sort of change depending on how many of us are around at that time, like what kind of seating is available - but several alters have their own rooms, and those just kind of. Appear? And the things inside just kind of appear and exist passively. So some kind of desire for a separate space has to exist and then it just kind of poofs into existence and it exists for that alter at all times - if an alter wants to go into another alter’s room, that takes more concentration by all parties. We also find that we have the same limitations on creating things - things that are alive and such just don’t work, even in the separate rooms. The most complex thing we have is a fish tank that is more or less just a loop.

  • @jessicalingo4346
    @jessicalingo4346 Рік тому

    My headspace when I first noticed it was a grotto. It had a cottage with a grassy area in the front to sit and enjoy the day. Inside the cottage had the living room (where I first saw my alters) and a kitchen. Then there's a hallway and roughly 3 to 4 rooms. Theres a hidden set of stairs to more rooms but you can only see the door if you know its there. The main alters (the common ones that front for our system) live in the cottage. My room is a bed, a dresser, 2 night stands and every inch of our walls are lined with pictures. The pictures themselves are special because we adapted the blues clues ability to jump into pictures. So in order to jump into the picture (the pictures could be a quiet room, various places on the island, memories that each person holds.....) you have to somehow unlock that picture. Locked pictures are just pictures or blank photos. Unlocked pictures are portals to whatever that picture holds. I also have boxes full of inch square pictures in my closet that I still need to explore.
    Outside of the cottage is a forest and across the field is a waterfall that flows into a pond. I have always been a fan of waterfalls. In a game growing up I learned there is often a cave behind waterfalls. Well upon exploring behind the waterfall I learned there's a cave that leads out to the other side of the mountain. That spot is unexplored by me. What I do know is there a a massive fruit Grove that holds various fruits. The center kinda is the juice bar where the npcs of our headspace can get fruits juices. Beyond the fruit juice bar is a town square that holds the houses for all the npcs. Its like a labyrinth. In the middle is a beautiful fountain. Beyond that is the town like space for the npcs. Its mostly a mall (that was common in our childhood) in that mall is a school. Any and all who want to front for our system needs to pass the classes at the school. Class 1 is the basics of fronting. Basically its what to do and what not to do when it comes to fronting. Class 2 is the more detailed explanation for our system like what work we do, who we know, what basic information we know...... class 3 is specialized classes. Those are specalized for the trauma holders (so their information can be put in the operating system), for the specialized jobs the person will be doing.

  • @Fofrin
    @Fofrin 4 роки тому +11

    ever hear of the Doorway Effect? The way I understand it :: Similar to zoning in a game, it's postulated that the brain dumps the memory of the previous room, and uploads a new memory for the new room.
    p.s. thanks for showing the fish

    • @Victoriomantic
      @Victoriomantic 4 роки тому +7

      Yeah :) That's why we can walk into a room and completely forget what we went in for. Also why sometimes getting up and moving rooms can distract from stress, rumination and worry :)

    • @hazeld8016
      @hazeld8016 4 роки тому

      Omg I love neurology

  • @jexstar6502
    @jexstar6502 4 роки тому +14

    I wish I could go in the headspace more -Jasper

  • @twistedyarnball-personalac9217
    @twistedyarnball-personalac9217 4 роки тому +2

    We experience the same thing in our headspace, our house and Ivys tree and Aquas treehouse exist passively but we have to focus on certain things to do them in headspace. Some have an easier time then others so you arent alone. -📚Darla

  • @jamiesmith2724
    @jamiesmith2724 4 роки тому +8

    So, off topic!! I love what you guys have done with your hair!! Not everyone can pull that off, but it frames your face so beautifully.

  • @grimmmmmmme
    @grimmmmmmme 4 роки тому +2

    Imagine the brain power needed to create/maintain this! Amazing, in my opinion!

  • @josefine635
    @josefine635 4 роки тому +11

    “so then WHEN..... WYN” lolol

  • @phoenixsystem6746
    @phoenixsystem6746 4 роки тому +2

    I created most of the headspace. It was nothing in the beginning. Then it became a forest and in the middle of it is a school it looks like k-12 on the outside, there are two paths and one path leads to an orphanage and a church, and the other leads to a Victorian house that looks like Allerdale hale and there is a cave next to it.

  • @ParanormalNewsToday
    @ParanormalNewsToday 4 роки тому +1

    Our headspace... is in a constant state of flux. Most of it is like a thick grey fog at this point. There was a dark black void that our littlest hid in for over 40 years just crying and never speaking, but that has disappeared now and he lives/stays in the time/memory of our grandparents house. They were/it was the only safe place he ever knew. He's far happier now than he was and we're hoping he'll be able to front on Christmas- it was the last happy holiday before we split. We've always hated holidays and felt nothing since then- always on the outside looking in at all the happy people and wanting it too, but knowing we could never have it and we didn't know why. But now, that's changed and we're hoping we can experience that joy again. Other than his spot in the headspace, everything else is very amorphous and unformed. Maybe we haven't felt the need? We're still at the beginning of the DID journey, so maybe things will form later as each of us needs or wants it to. Thanks for sharing your experiences- it's made our journey easier.

  • @kj-sf4md
    @kj-sf4md 4 роки тому +7

    I wish there would be a study on aging body and DID. I was dx at 58, am now 61, since T told me I've been a system all my life. I have always felt different than anyone else, but never knew why or how. But i digress. Basically does it get harder to control DID as we the body gets older. For instance as the body gets closer to 80, will everyone just think i have dementia? You are right, its hard to explain, & words get complicated.

    • @ParanormalNewsToday
      @ParanormalNewsToday 4 роки тому +5

      For our part, you're not alone. Our system is almost 50 and we were only diagnosed last April. Talk about your midlife crises. We've been thinking exactly the same things. Support from your friends/family is crucial because we're constantly doubting our realities all the time, much less dealing with the things that come with getting older. Hang in there, kj!

  • @jessicamathers2699
    @jessicamathers2699 4 роки тому +6

    Very, very interesting, Kim Kim. Thank you for trying to explain.

  • @stormweaverwitch
    @stormweaverwitch 4 роки тому +3

    we experience things in a very similar way. we have a few (outer, DID) friends who can just *poof* things into existence, but when we decided to expand the house, we had to focus on actively building onto it for it to stick. for our two main hosts, it takes a lot of concentration to go into the inner world, though for us the world continues to exist passively, but if they lose focus, they pop back into our "control room". i'd love to see more research on how inner worlds work and are sustained, because it's such an under-discussed topic.

  • @shaylac5095
    @shaylac5095 4 роки тому +1

    We try to create a inner world. We have to think about it too. We draw pictures in the outside world so we can remember what it looks like. Because we just go back to a void as you say. We don’t really remember anything unless we really think about it. We want to go into inner world and remember it and feel like we are really there.but we can’t really.

  • @jesse85
    @jesse85 4 роки тому +2

    Could you go to a pet store in the headspace and pick out a pet there? It might be worth a shot if you miss that companionship.

  • @adrianagarcia6427
    @adrianagarcia6427 4 роки тому +11

    It would be cool if you all did independent interest videos...like about Pokémon or makeup/hair tutorial or shows...like vlogs?

  • @cirrusfloccus6080
    @cirrusfloccus6080 4 роки тому +32

    So, one of our wolf-littles (I say that like we had more than one) is co-con with me right now and was just like "Can we get a wolf? I want a wolf please" before we even watched this video. :D And I'm here like, chill, we don't even have a proper headspace right now. :D (We didn't have one and I tried to make one and somehow it turned into a football field where everyone is a just a colourful fluffball, rolling around (I don't know how that happened).)
    How am I supposed to make a wolf when I can't even really make a headspace. :(

    • @hazeld8016
      @hazeld8016 4 роки тому +7

      Omg same. Kyle and Seth really want a headspace but none of us know how so we just like don't exist when we're not fronting. The football field isn't perfect but it's a starting point! How did you do it? I know dissociaDID just like thought really hard about wanting an inner world. Maybe I need to think harder?

    • @withyoctopus
      @withyoctopus 4 роки тому +1

      Viel Glück dabei.

    • @cirrusfloccus6080
      @cirrusfloccus6080 4 роки тому +5

      @@hazeld8016 Actually, I don't even remember. :< I think I wanted to front and tried to visualize fronting... and somehow came up with a football field where I'm rolling into the ... the goal-thingy. I don't know the english name. :D And then, suddenly, there was an inner world.

    • @hazeld8016
      @hazeld8016 4 роки тому +4

      @@cirrusfloccus6080 woah cool, thanks for sharing. There's a video on UA-cam about upgrading your inner world through self hypnosis that may work for you

    • @calysiagamer1237
      @calysiagamer1237 4 роки тому +4

      @@hazeld8016 Can we get a link by any chance? Of the video I mean, and also the rolling floof balls sound like fun to be~ It'd be a cool prank to pull if I can figure out how to do it! - Loki

  • @samiloulalee
    @samiloulalee 12 днів тому

    That's really interesting! I think that headspace worlds are always cool to hear about. Just last night one of my alters was talking to me about the headspace. I, the core and host, haven't really seen the headspace in detail, so it was really cool to have it described to me. Apparently ours is broken up into different realms for each of my alters. They have a main hub world, but they have their own worlds that can be accessed through houses in the hub world. The alter describing the headspace to me also sorta gave me brief images of what the worlds looked like.

  • @TheCripeCrew
    @TheCripeCrew 4 роки тому +5

    Perhaps limiting the creation ability is a safety feature? If everyone was creating and modifying the inner world all that change might feel unsettling or unsafe?

  • @youremyfavoritesong9868
    @youremyfavoritesong9868 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for this, we’ve all been stuck in the entrance cave of the innerworld when we’re not fronting even though the innerworld is fully functional and has been since around a year ago… it’s confusing but this video helped a lot. -Nat

  • @crg1292
    @crg1292 4 роки тому

    I love KimKims little hand gestures and dances

  • @daria7249
    @daria7249 4 роки тому +1

    That is a very interesting thing.. we often tried to change things in the inner world and sometimes the things are there - and sometimes it just didn`t work for longer than hours. We never thougt about it, that some of us could do this and some of us not. We will try and test it! :) Thank`s for the idea!

  • @theblanketfortcohort7332
    @theblanketfortcohort7332 3 роки тому

    I relate to this so much. By default, we don't have a headspace, when someone isnt in the conscious awareness they kinda go into this weird unconscious state where what's happening externally is loaded into them.
    Our 'headspace' is a paracosm. It's a world I created, which means it's constantly what you describe as active. The others get their life stories and memories from there, but the versions of them in the paracosm have no awareness of out here, or who I am to them, and the paracosm is more like an uncovering of their memories than an actual real-time headspace. So it doesn't help our functioning at all.
    I'm trying to create a communal space using the concept of liminality ( Think Howl's Moving Castle or the bridge in Spirited Away), but it's taking a lot of mind power because we don't naturally have a headspace. We weren't supposed to communicate.
    So I'm trying to create a space but it's hard. And I don't know where to put it, ie do I put it in the paracosm or make it something separate altogether?
    Only two of us have this ability, the rest of us can't create shared paracosms/shared internal events or settings.

  • @jaegermeistersfriend
    @jaegermeistersfriend 4 роки тому +1

    the haircut looks so good i literally cant get over it!!

  • @hannahnelson543
    @hannahnelson543 4 роки тому +38

    Is it weird that when I see Entropy's short haircut, I think about Kit? Like, I think she's fronting. I know she has a different hair style in the headspace but I think the hair style fits Kit especially well. Also, I hope the boys feel more comfortable with it. (I'm a relatively new subscriber so I haven't seen all the vids yet).

    • @TheEntropySystem
      @TheEntropySystem  4 роки тому +34

      Kit actually cut her hair in the headspace to match this look! She and the boys love it to pieces. -Wyn

  • @chasetuttle2780
    @chasetuttle2780 4 роки тому +2

    There is nothing that I find more fascinating than the inner worlds of people with DID. It’s fucking incredible. Like so incredible that I actually have a hard time believing that they’re telling the truth.

    • @melissabeingmelissa
      @melissabeingmelissa 4 роки тому +1

      I would start channeling the energy you feel ("this can't be real) towards this focus: "we are early in our human history!" Meaning, we have so much to learn about the brain + humans, & 2019 is early compared to, let's say, 2099, which WILL come someday (and be AS REAL as today). (And we'll be long gone)..
      We need all the belief we can. As a system myself, most of my life is dealing with denial. It affects every area of my life. Areas you wouldn't consider!

    • @chasetuttle2780
      @chasetuttle2780 4 роки тому +1

      Melissa I’m not saying I don’t believe them. In fact I think I do believe them, mainly just because there are so many different people with DID that claim to experience this inner world phenomena, and each persons is so unique in how it works and how things operate within it, and I don’t see any reason for anyone to lie about it. My point is just to say that this phenomenon is just so far outside what I thought was possible for the human mind, that it’s literally not possible for me to not be at at least a little bit skeptical. Like when people say that the inner world seems literally just as real as the waking world, and not really dream like at all... you gotta understand, that’s really hard for someone like me to believe, because I’m not even sure I’ve ever had a dream that was “as real as real life”. I’ve had some pretty vivid dreams, but I don’t think I could ever say that about them. Things are always kinda morphing and changing, and the environment always changes and is rarely ever static, and things aren’t consistent and don’t make a lot of sense most of the time. So when people claim that everything within the inner world is just static and consistent, with sort of NPC people who exist independently and do things like work at jobs and stuff within the inner world... that’s just insanely remarkable! I feel like whatever disbelief I could have for something as remarkable is that should be sort of forgivable in this instance.

    • @chasetuttle2780
      @chasetuttle2780 4 роки тому

      Melissa Trust me, If anything, by bias is in the favor of people with DID. It’s so amazing sounding, that I sort of desperately want it to be true. But it’s just so far outside of my paradigm that my rational mind won’t allow me to just completely accept it.

    • @believeinjesus2677
      @believeinjesus2677 3 роки тому

      @@chasetuttle2780 your very intelligent your not closed minded like how most of society is

  • @jenna3320
    @jenna3320 4 роки тому

    I recently was told it’s a really good idea to add speakers in everyone’s home or space, that they can turn the volume on or off, depending on if they want to listen to what’s going on in the outside world and what’s happening with whomever is fronting! Have you ever heard of this before??

    • @TheEntropySystem
      @TheEntropySystem  4 роки тому

      That was in one of the psychology books we read. I think it’s a great idea! -Kit

  • @sarahlowe8883
    @sarahlowe8883 4 роки тому

    This was such an interesting video! Thank you for sharing ☺️ also your hair looks awesome, you suit it so much! 😍

  • @vampirepossum8544
    @vampirepossum8544 3 роки тому +1

    Tbh loki in system has a cat in his apartment and I'm just so jealous lol. We can change stuff but mostly our own physical appearance or own rooms.

  • @Jonezie8
    @Jonezie8 4 роки тому +1

    We’re so happy to know another system❤️ Your videos are helpful
    Thank you

  • @izzi2964
    @izzi2964 Рік тому

    This is incredible, thank you for sharing!

  • @kill4karma
    @kill4karma 4 роки тому

    In my system's inner world we have almost no control over our inner world. We can't change anything physically. The only thing we can manifest on our own is food, they just think about anything edible and it appears. I'm the only one who can't do that and I don't go there very often. I usually go what we call "the void". It's just a fully black space but I'm not floating, there's a floor but it's still the same color as everything else.

  • @gingergirl8797
    @gingergirl8797 4 роки тому

    Very interesting and educational. Thank you.

  • @Dragonparadise
    @Dragonparadise 4 роки тому

    Thank you Kim Kim and all of you for sharing these amazingly informative videos. I always am curious how it works for other systems. I am currently only actively able to perceive my room, the room of the alter who has been with me literally since the beginning of what i can remember (and I usually only go there when I am in an extreme panic or feeling scared or in danger) and little snipits of things the others in my system have told me. It is fascinating to me to hear how other systems work internally and how the inner world is created or formed for others. Right now my inner world is apparently a bit jumbled based on what the alters that formed around certain traumas/serious stressful times needed at the time/understood.
    Thank you for sharing a small part of your world with all of us and have a wonderful day!

  • @pidgeymon2353
    @pidgeymon2353 3 роки тому +2

    I should be doing homework but this is much more helpful than that

  • @brandy3887
    @brandy3887 4 роки тому

    Thank you so much for making this video. I am very interested in this topic and would love any additional details or updates. ❤️

  • @giants2011ful
    @giants2011ful 4 роки тому

    Love u all and your videos are so helpful

  • @xpaderom2
    @xpaderom2 4 роки тому

    That was fascinating. I'd love to hear more on this topic.

  • @MischiefAndTrickery
    @MischiefAndTrickery 4 роки тому +1

    That shirt is super cute!!!

  • @DIDandMe
    @DIDandMe 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you so much Kim Kim for your description of the inner world and creating inside of it. We relate in some ways. For example our inner world is still somewhat in that ambiguous form, sort of like how you described it before the island was made. Does the inner world feel more stable to you or the others than it did before?

  • @sarayuki7120
    @sarayuki7120 4 роки тому

    For me it's the same as for Wyn but that's when I try to leave the fronting room. ~Kumori

  • @dona7.
    @dona7. 4 роки тому +1

    Totally off topic but that hairstyle really suits y’all :)

  • @coconosuga5351
    @coconosuga5351 3 роки тому +1

    So I am new to thinking of myself as a system and around the time you finished talking about how you maintaining the wolf alter wasn't viable, I realised an alter was close and watching, and it felt like it was to see the wolf. Sorry, buddy haha
    I was looking for this video in terms of how I'd watched a while back and remembered you'd described it as a void, with lights. If your Jonathon helped with Inner World creation, I guess I need to find mine before i can see stuff maybe ^^

  • @WeAreAlexandra
    @WeAreAlexandra 4 роки тому

    🌻 We have a lot of trouble changing our inner world too. Our therapist suggested trying to make a pet for me but I had the same issue you did where I couldn't hold on to it, which is a bummer

  • @bethanywillis5222
    @bethanywillis5222 4 роки тому

    Omgosh!! Space wolves reference!! I love them! I am a huge fan of Ragnar in the novels! I have have followed him from before he was a “pup”

    • @bethanywillis5222
      @bethanywillis5222 4 роки тому

      Kim Kim do you enjoy 40k as well or just warhammer?

  • @Lovelydeck
    @Lovelydeck 4 роки тому

    I have the same dress! It’s so comfy!!

  • @shanas.7306
    @shanas.7306 4 роки тому

    Would you guys be willing to do a video explaining what exactly fragments are & how they work?
    With love ❤

  • @jazmineniennaserenity8708
    @jazmineniennaserenity8708 4 роки тому +2

    *sees thumbnail* YOOO I HAVE A PET WOLF TOO -Ni

  • @chillinvillain7800
    @chillinvillain7800 4 роки тому +1

    In the beginning, there was only ocean...

  • @ninreck5121
    @ninreck5121 4 роки тому

    I loooove what you're wearing

  • @nataliemaxey7796
    @nataliemaxey7796 4 роки тому +1

    YOUR HAIR IS SO CUTE!!!!!

  • @NixinVictus
    @NixinVictus 4 роки тому

    forkin awesome hoodie

  • @RialVestro
    @RialVestro 4 роки тому

    I get why the book shelf is there even when you're not actively thinking about it because it's a real thing but stuff that only exists in your mind? Like for us things only exist while we're actively interacting with it and if we don't interact with something we tend to forget it's even part of the head space. This was kind of useful in a way because old Micheal resembled a burn victim and the littles were absolutely terrified of him. They were kept separate from each other in the head space and then the littles forgot Micheal even existed and Micheal forgot we even had littles in our system. I can remember them now because Claw would play with the littles in the head space and I have both their memories which is really freaking weird. I can shape shift now so I can be scary when I need to be scary and I can look like a normal person when the littles are around so I don't scare the crap out of them.
    Obviously other alters will still exist even if we don't remember they're there but anything else if no one is using it or thinking about it then it stops existing until it's needed again and everyone will just forget it was ever there till someone thinks we need this and then suddenly oh yeah this was here before but we forgot. A lot of the inner world kinda mimics things we've seen in the real world so it's usually revisiting something in the real world that reminds us that place or object exists inner world too.

  • @corybrown8422
    @corybrown8422 4 роки тому +3

    have you tried being a singer? The rasp in your voice is amazing.

  • @PastelKidd
    @PastelKidd 4 роки тому

    Your fit is so cool kimkim 🥺

  • @palmtreegal3
    @palmtreegal3 4 роки тому +1

    This is fascinating! I wonder since you said you can go pick out a couch, could you go to a pet store and pick out a pet? Would it passively stay?

  • @savannam.7048
    @savannam.7048 4 роки тому

    Last time I was this early.... .... .... I got nothin. LOL. Onto watching the video!

  • @ambrosiamosher553
    @ambrosiamosher553 4 роки тому

    I have that same hoodie thats so cool

  • @thedestroyasystem
    @thedestroyasystem 4 роки тому +5

    UGHHHHHH I want a real inner world so bad!!! All we have is a cabin with a garden outside, a field, and an abandoned hospital (which I'm sure holds trauma memories). Vixen, who lives in the cabin, has the closest life to the outer world, but even then she doesn't go very far outside the cabin. I, as the host, can only really get snapshots into the inner world, like I'm looking into it but not really there. Most people just live in the "forest", the sort of nothingness that surrounds all the actual structures. It sucks cuz the original is in there living it up, and I'm stuck out here, with a life that doesn't feel like my own. The closest I get to my ideal reality is in dreams, so of course I sleep a lot. I'm holding out hope though, because an introject of BBC's Sherlock is currently developing (like, he's here, but he's sort of a fragment atm and trying to gain his own sense of self and reality) and canonically Sherlock has an entire "mind palace", pretty much an entire world populated by NPC's of people he knows. He can also store memories/info there. So, I'm hoping that once we finish the show, his entire personality, as well as his mind-palace, will be put into place. And I somehow figure out how to access it like for real, and create my own reality beside his. Hopefully I can figure out how to trade out of my role as host, because I think that'll be the only way I can really access the inner world. Wish me luck!

  • @CatalinaLacy
    @CatalinaLacy 4 роки тому +10

    How do you guys choose who talks about what topic?

    • @somedude172
      @somedude172 4 роки тому +7

      from my understanding based on their past videos, its mostly just whoever feels up to it, and who's the most capable of talking about that specific topic

  • @jessrose4301
    @jessrose4301 4 роки тому +3

    Loved this one! I have a dog named Ragnar Blackmane.
    Random but what video equipment do you use?

  • @elizabethberman9998
    @elizabethberman9998 4 роки тому

    Alters are the gods of their inner world.

  • @sweiland75
    @sweiland75 4 роки тому +3

    So if Kim Kim can be made aware she is part of the system, without any harm to the system, then can it be possible to make Dr Mann also aware that she is part of the system? It's my understanding that she still has no idea.

    • @kathyxu1513
      @kathyxu1513 4 роки тому +3

      sweiland75 I think she does now, I remember she was fronting in one of the videos and talked about it

    • @tonyconstable7964
      @tonyconstable7964 4 роки тому +1

      She knows

    • @sweiland75
      @sweiland75 4 роки тому

      @@tonyconstable7964 Ok thank you.

    • @bethanywillis5222
      @bethanywillis5222 4 роки тому

      She knows now and has her own little house outside of the city where it is always sunny unlike the rest of the headspace where it is more like dusk/night

  • @josefine635
    @josefine635 4 роки тому +5

    just out of curiosity! Do y’all have a system journal too? I’ve seen a lot of systems use those! :)

    • @hazeld8016
      @hazeld8016 4 роки тому +6

      Yes I remember them saying something about a system journal where Jonathan and Jacob would front and write angrily at each other I believe

  • @cheetahtfk7274
    @cheetahtfk7274 4 роки тому +2

    Would it be possible to get a video from Oz describing the creation and function of the city since he seems to be the "master" or "mechanic" in charge of it?

    • @hazeld8016
      @hazeld8016 4 роки тому

      This would be so enlightening.

  • @simsim3918
    @simsim3918 2 роки тому

    LEMAN RUSS LET'S GOOOOOO
    Necrons and Tau are the coolest tho :3

  • @ninreck5121
    @ninreck5121 4 роки тому

    woa brains are wild man

  • @baba2464
    @baba2464 4 роки тому +1

    Bonus points for 🐺Warhammer 🕵️‍♀️🧝‍♀️🧛‍♀️👾👍
    Really enjoy your level headedness and sincerity in your uploads and hope your all doing well.
    Was curious if y'all mind posting videos on Twitter when uploaded. We almost never pay much attention to UA-cam. 😂🤣🤪
    Keep it real and stay Awesome.😁👋
    🕵️‍♀️🧝‍♀️🧛‍♀️👩‍🎤👩‍⚕️🧙‍♀️
    🍯🦡🐯🦈🐉🐢

  • @suneblommie4549
    @suneblommie4549 4 роки тому +2

    How often would you guys say do the Littles front now, if at all?

  • @AUnicorn666
    @AUnicorn666 4 роки тому

    We have a wolf pack made partially up of alters but they are as complex as people because animals are much more complex then humans think (according to science and our imagination). We can make changes to our inner world that are small easily but the bigger or more complicated its harder and if we do to much big, complicated, or in quantity then it tives the body a headache. We cant so it if already in pain

  • @twinsupermommy4388
    @twinsupermommy4388 4 роки тому +1

    Then who cares for your Littles? We have an alter who is The Governess and that's her sole function.

  • @Readera
    @Readera 4 роки тому

    💜💜💜💜

  • @Itssopreppyinhere74628
    @Itssopreppyinhere74628 2 роки тому

    i have a similar experience to Wynn, and if i dont focus i will begin to fall into my catacosm (daydream world) and realize the conversation ive been having is not real ._.

  • @theresablack9261
    @theresablack9261 4 роки тому

    I'm just kinda imagining kim kim just clapping twice and saying loudly dog. Then the wolf just appears.