SWIMMING POOL HEATER NATURAL GAS LINE INSTALLATION
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- Plumbing apprentice CB2 and I install a natural gas line for a swimming pool heater. Check it out
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SWIMMING POOL HEATER NATURAL GAS LINE INSTALLATION
Your boys are super lucky that they have you as a teacher! God bless
Thanks Clint. We trying out here.
Since 1993...sUrFs Up CB2 is turning into a mean machine, your a good example, happy father's day
Happy Fathers Day to you also.....
Did not ream the pipe ends before installing into risers. Did not mark the first one to know if you got it all the way in. Buried the joints before pressure testing the line ( IF YOU DID A Pressure test ) they can leak! always check them before burying. I am sure you know this so teach the kid to be precise and take no short cuts. My trainer once got mad at me for saying " Its just a !!! " he flipped out and said it is never " UST A" anything, it is always right or do not do it at all.. Wise words because I admired his ethic for good work and inherited them for myself.
tested big daddy.....even passed...
I recently ran an underground electrical wire in plastic conduit and had to dig a trench >18" deep to meet code. It was only 14 ft long so used a spade by hand and my ground is fairly soft with few rocks, but 18" is a lot deeper than it sounds. I also had to tunnel it under a concrete sidewalk.
Is that under armor and Nike sneakers you’re wearing? Looks like somebody’s been shopping at Costco lately.
Chuck, can I borrow CB2 for a day, and show him what hard clay, and shale is like to hand dig? lol...I get so jealous when I see that nice soft sandy earth you guys have over there.
yes. take him. it will be a plumbing field trip for sure. Im to easy on the boy....he needs some hard digging time.....lol. if you can get a "there goes another then you win.....lol
your editing is getting better
thanks Mike
That poly is way different than California, we have to cut, spray it to clean it then have to ream it then put the stab fitting on
hmmmmm its amazing all the different material out there..its the same as gas company uses here.
no poly is poly for gas. he just did it wrong. when using a Stab fitting you are supposed to chamfer the end with a tool. He didn't do it. Chamfuring the ends bevels the end to ensure the oring will go inside the pipe. Without chamfuring the pipe you run the risk of the oring not going into the pipe or not sealing properly and thus have a gas leak.
i talked to supply houses and alot of plumbers make this plumber 101 mistake they would come in complaining the fittings are leaking come to find out they didn't chamfur the ends OR they used the wrong chamfur tool. it's a small step but a very important step to ensure relaiablity and safety concering the fittings
Just a question here in Georgia I would have run black pipe under the deck and drilled a hole through the concrete and run the pipe under the house and mega pressed with gas fittings but I've never used that flex gas line nice job. Chuck!!
or along the wall outside then under deck.... clean and primer/paint all in one...
possibly in some stooge government area applying "califoolia" logic to piping :))
Ya i could of but this to me is the ticket in this application.
we would have to run galvanized here if outside.
Sorry it's just a habit of me calling it Black pipe I use galvanized myself for the past two to three years it's just one of them habits I'm stuck with
We have to put it down to grade mark which is 36” in SC
12" here.
Hehe 😂hand digging is good for a soul
hey Chuck where in nj do you work, I'm in central NJ do you work in this area I'm looking to have this similar job done
Is any regulator needed for this heater ?
Chamfering tool must be used before staking.
Yes. learned that real quick
Hello this is Michael I noticed that you installed a Tracer wire to locate the gas pipe later. I work for an electric and plumbing company and they got a call about a clogged sewer but the sewer machine kept hitting something, a telecomunications conduit that was installed with a directional boring machine that went through the sewer line.
ouuch...yes tracer wire a must here.
What should something like this cost start to finish, connected to meter and heater? I have an identical situation, 12' trench in a straight line. I have already dug the trench. The quote I received seems ridiculous. They want $2000... the trench is dug. Lay the pipe, terminate and pressure test, get it inspected, hook it up. Two fairly quick trips I would think. I want the guys to make a profit, but $2000 seem high?
seems cheap to me....they assume all responsibility. I read this great quote on line this week......as consumers do we ever ask our favorite eatery to lower price, or wash our own dishes to save a dollar or two...Nope. But all contractors get hammered daily. Its amazing. We offering a professional clean job so the consumer can get what they want....time to hit the beach if they like. anyway .....seems cheap and I pay it so i could get in my hot pool asap....plumb on brother.
I had a quote for 8-10k for something similar. If they had said $2,000 I’d have gone to the bank to give em cash money right away
I didn't see any warning tape that says caution buried gas line below in the trench
tracer wire..
Good video and thanks for sharing.
Thank you
Nice
thanks
Hey guys, got a project i need to hit. 150-175ft to the pool😞 do you think 1 1/4" will handle a 200,000 BTU heater? Or does that sound to small. And I didn't think about a tracer wire, great tip. Even if it not required. (Michigan, haven't checked) Is that just basic 18 gauge wire or something special? Nice videos. You guys do good hard work👍thx.
ya check your local laws for sure.
Make sure your gas main can supply that much, but there are plenty of simple gas pipe charts on the internet. Last thing you want to do is have to dig it up always error on the side of too big.
vampov Ended up working out perfectly thx....kids have been enjoying the pool all spring/summer.
Isn't that Gas line supposed to be 12" deep?
You guys are crazy. I would Jane brought in a trencher!
Training is good....They have the propress...thats it...lol
We use that same pipe and fittings here in mass and after u cut it that give u a chamfering tool. How come u didn’t do that? It’s made by the company who makes the pipe and fittings
I have always just punched her in with the 1/2 thru 1" but I just found out that the tool is needed especially on 11/4 and above. I am about to do 11/4 pool line. I did test and held at 15psi so but moving forward its the tool for all...Thanks Mike.
Anytime CB. Keep up the great videos!
CB-1 I really like that narrow shovel I got to pick me up one of those does Home Depot carry that? Peace brother
narrow shovels are sweet. I learned that from my concrete guy....a must have. Not sure on depot.
I'm sry but you stabbed that wrong and I'm not sure what state you're in but it's 18" deep in west Virginia
Jersey is 12". Thanks matty
CB DID CB2 break out with hives when he touch the shovel... I thought you said he was allergic to shovels haha just playing not job fellas
he did....poison ives...in the bushes...lol
This was a great informational video! How much does it roughly cost to run 100 ft of gas line trenched to a pool heater? Does it cost less if the homeowners dig the trench themselves?
Collin, Depends on job. area. dirt. size of heater.
Since you didn't get any real reply I'll tell you. You can go to home depot online and buy a 1 inch " by 100 ft kit with two risers and two compression unions for like 230 bucks. And you can trench it yourself pretty easily. I used a pick axe with the broad shovel end and a small sprinkler trenching shovel and I was able to do it easily. The real pain in the ass is if you have to navigate around underground utilities and sprinkler pipes/drainage now that sucked. You'll need to buy 14 AWG tracer @ 100ft wire for about 30 bucks too and a permit through the city which was 100 bucks for my small city. If you have a clean dig path just rent a trencher. Remember to call blue stakes however those idiots missed my power main and my cable line and I struck the power main but it was their fault for not properly marking it. You will need to pressure check it with an inspector but that is easy just cap one end and the other end get a cheap tire inflator with a dial gauge at harbor freight to inflate and show the pipe holds pressure. If you are a do it yourself you can do this pretty easily especially if you buy the kit.
@@vampov yes I installed my own gas line as well from the meter to the back patio. I varied my method compared to urs though. I did buy the PE pipe from HomeDepot but i stayed awayfrom the cheap non reliable compression fittings. The compression fittings have to be done just right or they leak. Also they only have ONE ORING to seal when that ring fails you got a leak no redundancy they are also not class 1 fittings. Class 1 fitings are designed to never pull out. I used Stab fittings from Contintal "ConStab" fittings these type of fittings are kind of like shark bite you prep the end and then stab the pipe into the fitting where teeth grab onto the pipe and never let go. This fitting has 2 O RINGS so if the first oring fails the other will maintain the seal. Also the orings seal on the inside of the pipe were there are less likely to damage occur. These are Class 1 rated so they are designed once they got a hold of the pipe to never pull out. the compression fittings are about $25 the stab fittings are about $40 alittle more but definitely worth the price. Now the stab fittings you do have to buy a $31 chamfur tool and chamfur the ends this bevels the inside of the pipe so the orings will slide into the pipe. If you do this again i would suggest looking into Con stab or Honeywell's Permasert Stab fittings. far superior and relaible compared to compression fittings. here is a link t the stab fittings hubbellcdn.com/literature/CONT_ID-Seal-Stabs-Connector-Catalog.pdf
I got my risers from HomeDepot as well the pipe and risers are good but the fittings sucked that was my only variation. Since PE pipe is not conductive it's always advisable if not required by code to run tracer wire so if you need to locate the line in the future will be able to without that wire locating will not be possible without excavation. I ran tracer wire with the pipe burried it halfway then ran marker tape that said Caution buried gas line below so in case someone didn't locat e line and tried to dig in that area would run itno that and know there is a buried gas line below double saftey. here is a link www.amazon.com/Swanson-BTND3100YBGL4-1000-Feet-Non-Detectable-Caution/dp/B0081ZRTZK/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-p13n1_0?crid=34TJU3AQ0X4ZD&cv_ct_cx=caution+buried+gas+line+below&dchild=1&keywords=caution+buried+gas+line+below&pd_rd_i=B0081ZRTZK&pd_rd_r=97e533be-6d6e-423f-9f96-cfc02bd2d682&pd_rd_w=W9UV2&pd_rd_wg=MMpb7&pf_rd_p=e7ea7987-56a0-4822-adda-f67db5e22b16&pf_rd_r=D0C53H3WWX5E4W7SZJVC&psc=1&qid=1599087036&sprefix=caution+buried+gas+line%2Caps%2C190&sr=1-1-791c2399-d602-4248-afbb-8a79de2d236f
I also put a shutoff valve at the tee where line ties into meter and a shuttoff valve at the other end. SO if an emergency happens can shut supply to the line wihtout having to shut the gas to the whole house off. and shut it off really fast since it is a ball valve and not those types gas company uses where have to get a wrench.
installing this gas line was a pain the butt i had drain lines and sprinkler lines so couldn't usea trencher. I had to dig the line by hand. The line was 70 ft long and 2 feet deep. I never want to do that again. But i had to cause i called 3 plumbers and all of them wanted 5k to do it. I'm not rich so ended up doing it myself all in all cost me around $500 to DIY myself. But i had a plumber tie my line into the meter which was about 3 ft of pipe from my riser i terminated at the meter to the meter he charged only $493 so i was about about $1k which is still alot cheaper than $5k
I guess Im pretty off topic but does anybody know of a good site to watch new movies online?
@Noe Soren flixportal
can this type of gas line be ran through the basement instead around the entire house? my gas meter is on the left side yard and the pool and the equipment is on the complete opposite, over 130 feet away.
No sir....Underground only.
Chuck Barron you are a lot closer than I thought. I left you a vm for a gas line install quote. I’m in Winslow township right off of 73. I thought you were in north jersey all this time.
Pe needs to buried deeper at the risers that’s what the red line is for read it
nice thats good to know.
Take it you can’t read? Those 90s say right on at bury Mark
What is the yellow electrical line for ?
It’s called a tracer wire and it is to trace where the line is underground when it’s not metal.
chuck, what do you guys charge for this? I am converting my propane heater to NG, its a hayward h400 (400k Btu). im in south jersey as well. i can have the trench done ahead of time as well and even get the PE pipe as my buddy works at ferguson
We can give you a price. Where you out of.?
@@ChuckBarron Gloucester county
Is that 1/2 in?
11/4
You didnt reem the line.and NFP 58-59 requires gas lines to be a minnimum 18" to 24".also if you piped pool heater and put shut off on and test at other end .would have 1 inspection.i also didnt See any yellow caution tape.
Got any partners in the Winslow area down route 73?
We looking. Hit me up
That looks like a 400,000btu pool heater. 1” PE is only good up to 30’. 18” min depth most places although some jurisdictions allow 12”. Hopefully you weren’t over 30’ or the heater is going to choke out.
How much does a job like that go for?
few dollars for sure.
We have to ream that shit.
Yes sir.
What is that curved pipe close to the meter & Heater called?
Under ground gas service piping and fittings. not sure brand
RISER
first view from a J. plumber in VT
Get er daddio!!! Thanks for stopping by #1
CB love your videos !!
Just can’t stand the music that plays in the background.
No music? or whats your flavor....I figured its background noise for the folks.
You guys need a trencher
cmon, lil beach sand. I do also have the best dig team for sure. So pro!
No locates..?
Whats Locates? Mark outs???
@@ChuckBarron Yes, mark outs... We call 'em locates here in St Louis.
Just curious.
What are you going to do with that 5' piece you cut off by mistake ?
send it back to supply house and say they shorted me 95' off the roll. ha.
Why? Why is the supervisor digging?!!!?
Did you two get some sand in your boots? Ha ha!
You wouldn't if you wore loooonnnng pants.
Got to show these puppies how to dig....lets go!!!!!!!
sandy is fun....ha
true john....its coming for sure.
try digging like that in Vegas.
Negative. We in jersey Ken.
It would have been better if you sped up the process of the digging
got ya....hate to hide CB2's pain. ha