On the subject of over valuing life totals, if you find yourself doing this, just remember, there only 3 life totals in magic. Alive, bolt range, and dead.
4. Missing Triggers 3. Not accessing public information (eg cards in graveyard) 2. Playing pre-combat spells that could be played post-combat 1. Cracking packs for cards needed rather than buying singles
that^s like most annoying opponent to play against.. i mean even if its friendly game play.. not reading what card does, but only assuming what it does is really irritating
I think new players aren't "Not attacking enough". Like the 1/1 example, i think they're incorrectly assuming that if they attack, it will be tapped on your turn, and you could put a 20.20 with haste in hehe, seriously.
When I was brand new to competitive magic my biggest mistake was shuffling my sideboard into my deck upside down post sideboard without realizing. went from 4-0 to 4-2 with the snap of a finger because of that.
Frank's comment on #1 is totally valid. I'd say 30% of FNM Rounds I play are against opponents that go "sure i'll try this" and never find their 3rd land.
Thanks for the list, very helpful! I'm just coming back to Magic and the big surprises have been encouraging the Mulligan with Scry 1 and no more mana burn. Of the eight, not taking the mulligan is my own biggest error.
I've been guilty of #8 and #4 often. I understand more of certain cards that you'd want to play pre-combat main phase for wincon strats if you know you're going to win that turn.
My opp did number 3 last saturday at the standard showdown, he took me apart in game 1 and then decided to sideboard a lot of cards in and I crushed him game 2 and 3. I told him afterwards that his pre-sideboard deck was very strong against me but after sideboarding his deck was much weaker, not sure what was going through his head though.
I had a different type of list in mind when I read Common Mistakes made... Bolting a Tarmagoyf and not killing it. MTGO accident F6 push. MTGO not reacting to Eldrazi trigger properly and accidentally triggering annihilation. MTGO search library and missclick (or lag) click wrong card... or no cards at all. FoF also has awarded its fair share of all cards end up in one pile via MTGO.
JuFro743 Not specifically me :) I ment errors the community of players often make. CFB focused the list more on errors of strategies, not actual mistakes like I assumed originally.
ahhh the mull reminds me of what happened in GP denver that just passed i Mulled to 4 and won because mu op kept a 2 land hand (on a 3 cost heavy deck which was kind of odd)and couldnt cast a spell for a few turns giving me a chance to offset my card disadvantage.
15:28 I swear I wouldn't be suprised if everyone was guilty of No.2. I was a few months in before someone who had played forever let me know that he used to do the same but it was wrong. And every player I've seen learn since, someones had to talk off the ledge of running about 3 too few lands.
Not completely reading the cards. I have a habit of brushing through the text too fast and miss important terms like until end of turn or attacking/defending monster.
Gammie Maybe sometimes they mean that the specific combination of seven spells is better than most combinations of seven spells? Maybe they drew all of their 1 of silver bullet sideboard cards? They might understand that any hand is going to look good with seven generic spells.
I've noticed that when new players build their first deck, they put tons of 1ofs in the deck because they don't understand consistency. I think it should have been on the list
4dscdriver though that may be true in some situations, I've played with multiple new players that think that having tons of 1 ofs is better because you can play more "op" cards.
I wish CFB could get a good, charismatic, not stuttering presenter back like TSG. It's like watching a powerpoint presentation in high school. On the other hand, it would be nice to have an actual prolific magic player who is not a scumbag comment and tell *interesting* stories like LSV.
I played against my friend yesterday and he thinks that he`s Hydra deck is way better then he`s dragon deck. But i won the majority of the games simply because attacked alot with Elvish Mystic alot when he was open and i in one game got in like 6+ damage with two Elvish Mystic. I try to not overvalue my life total of course i do not like to to be on under 3 life. But all i care how i can be able to win. I have gotten alot better to not play spells before combat i still make that mistake sometimes but i have made my self a rule like i pretty much only play an Instant or sorcerry before combat if i know that i would gain more from in then my opponent like dismember there only creature and attack for like 9 or something With TKS and Reality Smasher for instance
#8... are we not bolting the bird anymore? If we aren't, we're probably losing. These top 8 videos, while entertaining, are always set in a vacuum that doesn't exist across multiple formats. For draft i'd always say hold onto your bolt but in modern that bolt would be in your grip as you died on turn 3.
An Australian, Chinese guy, saying the word Multi, the way American's say it... There's a head scratcher. I also HATE American terminology that isn't official. "Chump" blocking... Chump is a crappy American word. No one else uses it. But it's in the game now unofficially. I hate America.
On the subject of over valuing life totals, if you find yourself doing this, just remember, there only 3 life totals in magic. Alive, bolt range, and dead.
Alive, Shadow size, Bolt Range and dead. 4
Evelyn Carpenter Alive, shadow size, bolt range, ballista range and dead. 5 hahahaha
that is actually fully comprehensive..
bolt range depends on your opponents deck. Bolt range against burn is like 1 to 5/6 depending on the format.
that still makes Ops statement correct, 'bolt' is relative
4. Missing Triggers
3. Not accessing public information (eg cards in graveyard)
2. Playing pre-combat spells that could be played post-combat
1. Cracking packs for cards needed rather than buying singles
#1 Not bolting the bird.
#1 not reading the card
that^s like most annoying opponent to play against.. i mean even if its friendly game play.. not reading what card does, but only assuming what it does is really irritating
I just played magic a month ago, thanks to MTG Arena anyone started recently?
same!! just started really playing magic! coming from the dragon ball super card game!!!
Same here i used collect the cards when i was like 7 back in 94. But now im actually playing. Im still learning, but i love it so far!
Me
#1 Overestimating life gain
Shadow Titan too similar to 5
Bear wrote the comment before watching the vid lol
OH! you mean every magic players 2nd or 3rd deck?
I've won games from lifegain. And don't underestimate Felidar Sovereign.
I won a modern tournament this week with a life gain agro deck.
I think new players aren't "Not attacking enough". Like the 1/1 example, i think they're incorrectly assuming that if they attack, it will be tapped on your turn, and you could put a 20.20 with haste in hehe, seriously.
When I was brand new to competitive magic my biggest mistake was shuffling my sideboard into my deck upside down post sideboard without realizing. went from 4-0 to 4-2 with the snap of a finger because of that.
Frank's comment on #1 is totally valid. I'd say 30% of FNM Rounds I play are against opponents that go "sure i'll try this" and never find their 3rd land.
#1 should've been missed triggers
Thanks for the list, very helpful! I'm just coming back to Magic and the big surprises have been encouraging the Mulligan with Scry 1 and no more mana burn. Of the eight, not taking the mulligan is my own biggest error.
I've been guilty of #8 and #4 often. I understand more of certain cards that you'd want to play pre-combat main phase for wincon strats if you know you're going to win that turn.
#1 Putting too many high cost spells in a deck / not paying attention to Mana Curve
Do you ever keep a one or two Lander that has all gas in it? but still lose the game because you don't draw that extra land you need
My opp did number 3 last saturday at the standard showdown, he took me apart in game 1 and then decided to sideboard a lot of cards in and I crushed him game 2 and 3. I told him afterwards that his pre-sideboard deck was very strong against me but after sideboarding his deck was much weaker, not sure what was going through his head though.
Some guess before watching: forget upkeep triggers, tap wrong land, not ordering blocker damage as attacker, cast trick too soon as defender
Something I've noticed a lot of newer, but also bad players do: once they are on the back foot, they tend to stop attacking.
What back foot
No TheGuyOnTheLeft? Is this top 8 even canon?
I had a different type of list in mind when I read Common Mistakes made... Bolting a Tarmagoyf and not killing it. MTGO accident F6 push. MTGO not reacting to Eldrazi trigger properly and accidentally triggering annihilation. MTGO search library and missclick (or lag) click wrong card... or no cards at all. FoF also has awarded its fair share of all cards end up in one pile via MTGO.
David Foster Sounds like you've had a pretty bad time on Magic Online
JuFro743 Not specifically me :) I ment errors the community of players often make. CFB focused the list more on errors of strategies, not actual mistakes like I assumed originally.
ahhh the mull reminds me of what happened in GP denver that just passed i Mulled to 4 and won because mu op kept a 2 land hand (on a 3 cost heavy deck which was kind of odd)and couldnt cast a spell for a few turns giving me a chance to offset my card disadvantage.
I really only do number three badly. However, I keep very greedy hands so I could be subjugated to playing to few lands occasionaly.
Is the sound and video off on purpose? You guys have been doing it for a while, so I know it is known and easy to fix.
Only mistake on me is not balancing my deck correctly...i used to do way to many over power/high mana cost creatures. Also a lot of spell.
1. Not playing red burn aggro
Wait, so like, I'm not supposed to block everything?
The not playing enough lands thing didn't realy happen to me since for the first like 6 months i played with 30 lands 30 spells.
I never played a 60 card deck with more than 24 lands
Lol 30 lands?! Even the most dedicated control lists run 26-27 at most.
cody h this was before i realised you could play only four copies of a card.
15:28 I swear I wouldn't be suprised if everyone was guilty of No.2. I was a few months in before someone who had played forever let me know that he used to do the same but it was wrong. And every player I've seen learn since, someones had to talk off the ledge of running about 3 too few lands.
I could think of about 10 more at least but how is missing triggers not on here?
Not completely reading the cards. I have a habit of brushing through the text too fast and miss important terms like until end of turn or attacking/defending monster.
14:50 my biggest pet peeve when someone says that
Gammie Maybe sometimes they mean that the specific combination of seven spells is better than most combinations of seven spells? Maybe they drew all of their 1 of silver bullet sideboard cards? They might understand that any hand is going to look good with seven generic spells.
great video and good content. Guys, stop saying "LIKE" so much. you're better than that.
Top 8 Frank Lepore punts
they could do a top 64 and still have way more punts to choose from.
Shandalar taught me to attack before spells!
Is there an article on this
Thumbs up if you skipped to the end to read the list.
I watched through the whole thing because I didn't even know what chumping was.
Normalize "I get you mulligan "
Not "ah dang I have to mulligan"
I've noticed that when new players build their first deck, they put tons of 1ofs in the deck because they don't understand consistency. I think it should have been on the list
warsmen7 a lot of that has to do with the cards they own.
4dscdriver though that may be true in some situations, I've played with multiple new players that think that having tons of 1 ofs is better because you can play more "op" cards.
EDH
#1 Listening anything Lepore says.
#1 Cheating on Melissa Detora
did that happen?
:/ she's pretty cute
#1 definitely should have been overvaluing life totals, tell any new player about shock lands and they lose their minds. Not Mulliganing is close
I wish CFB could get a good, charismatic, not stuttering presenter back like TSG. It's like watching a powerpoint presentation in high school. On the other hand, it would be nice to have an actual prolific magic player who is not a scumbag comment and tell *interesting* stories like LSV.
List starts at 3:40. You're welcome
Thanks
I played against my friend yesterday and he thinks that he`s Hydra deck is way better then he`s dragon deck. But i won the majority of the games simply because attacked alot with Elvish Mystic alot when he was open and i in one game got in like 6+ damage with two Elvish Mystic. I try to not overvalue my life total of course i do not like to to be on under 3 life. But all i care how i can be able to win. I have gotten alot better to not play spells before combat i still make that mistake sometimes but i have made my self a rule like i pretty much only play an Instant or sorcerry before combat if i know that i would gain more from in then my opponent like dismember there only creature and attack for like 9 or something With TKS and Reality Smasher for instance
#1 buying packs
What's a sideboard?
15 cards you can sub into your deck between matches. Casual players don't really need to worry about sideboards.
@@TrackerRoo oh... I was joking... but thanks anyways!
Actually I put way too many lands on my deck...
in regards to point 8, bolt the bird!
infallibly falls under category of (gives you less turns)
#1 thinking Frank lepore is a good magic player
k0olmini I apologize, where is your pro tour top 8?
Lol I knew someone would make this comment. Bravo.
Is this a meme or just a rude comment?
naw him being scum bag doesn't have any reflection on the quality of his magic playing, two separate entities
Playing instant cards on their own turn
#8... are we not bolting the bird anymore? If we aren't, we're probably losing. These top 8 videos, while entertaining, are always set in a vacuum that doesn't exist across multiple formats. For draft i'd always say hold onto your bolt but in modern that bolt would be in your grip as you died on turn 3.
Most decks in modern playing Bird kill you with things that... die to bolt. So if you can prevent their threat then Bird becomes just another land.
Rad fern in the foreground!
Not understanding a card
Good list guys. Now bring on the hate for the video for no good reason!
Lemonducky neither guy really defined their reason for their list items. Not offered a way to correct it.
I mean the thing about these mistakes is they're all things that the way you correct things is... simply not doing them.
#1 NOT HAVING A SIDEBOARD. How was this not even on the list?
This doesn't say in 'competitive magic'. This is just an FNM folly I see all the time, which is where -new players- typically congregate. Relax dude.
I do #7 almost every time XD
#1 Buying these expensive ass cards that will be worthless in short time just to play against identical cards and decks.
JayTac1 #1 Getting into Magic
An Australian, Chinese guy, saying the word Multi, the way American's say it... There's a head scratcher. I also HATE American terminology that isn't official. "Chump" blocking... Chump is a crappy American word. No one else uses it. But it's in the game now unofficially. I hate America.
Is that fat seth rollins ?
Thanks for the video. But if you’re going to make a video for beginners, maybe try not to use so much lingo, or explain what the lingo means
Literally every single tip you didn’t really exactly explain what it meant. You assumed we knew what certain words meant
youve been gaining weight, Mashi
Don't put your most stuttering person as your frontman. It kills trying to suffer through the video, stuttering every other word.
U guys missed the num 1 mistake...not buying Hearthstone packs
MaceWin Dont ixalan says otherwise.
Cory Goodman ...it does looks awesome