Tiny Camera, Big Images!
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- I don't do a lot of night street shooting, mainly because it rains a lot in the evenings, and usually by the end of long shoot days, or even making videos on UA-cam, I just get so exhausted. I shall try to make an effort to do more night shooting, here is a POV style street shooting with the tiny but mighty Lumix GM1!
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0:00 Intro
0:45 Night Shooting With GM1
2:02 POV Shooting 1
2:50 Shooting Challenges
3:54 POV Shooting 2
4:54 Why No Night POV?
6:12 POV Shooting 3
7:05 GM1 High ISO
8:32 POV Shooting 4
9:34 Conclusion/END
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7:00 , Exactly Robin! Technical quality can't make up for a mediocre image.
A reminder for myself too
Thank you for your hard work, Robin. Thanks to your videos, I went back to the micro 3/4 and bought myself an Olympus om-d e-m10 again
Thanks for being here, and welcome back to the E-M10 world
Wow, I'm amazed at the image quality here which I'm seeing on a large oled monitor. I'd never considered taking my GM5 out at night with the kit zoom as I assumed it was too slow and the high ISO would look bad. Not at all! - you've inspired me to go out at night with Pany/kit zoom - thanks!
Oh yessss please do bring the GM5 out and don't sorry so much about noise. As long as you don't zoom in 400%!
Robin Wong is a national treasure. Hes the light we need in this world ❤
Thanks, that is too kind!
Your enthusiasm is infectious and makes for fun viewing. Thank you!
I was really amazed at the portrait you have taken with ISO25400 and still get such a good result. Has both GM1 and GM5 as well as all lenses that fit. Perfect travel cameras and indeed for portrait shooting. They are so small that they do not frighten the subject
Two cameras, two lenses, or 3-4, and still less than a kg on the journey.
Fun factor, I have lots of old Nikkor and Zuiko lenses and Metabones Speedbooster for both of those mounts. Have the Nikkor 300mm F/2.8 and if you have the GM1 behind it, you will almost see the camera. What about a 210mm F/2.0 and a GM1?
Fantastic video, Robin. Still amazes me that you can get soo many subjects for your walks. As you mentioned, people are nice there. That isn't the case in the States. You'll get a lot of death stares here. Life expectancy and general well-being must be greater there.
US is free fall, beyond saving
The UK is the same nowadays. It never used to be but people have definitely changed over this last 3-4 years. Quite confrontational.
@@pauljohnson6368idk it depends where. at least around here i sometimes get people walking around me and i can only assume its because they dont want to ruin a shot im about to do. but i have never been confronted even at the start of 2020.
Thanks Robin. Another cracking video. Yes I concur with others. You really do get such a positive response to your camera with people. I just love that tiny little camera. I wish micro fourth thirds would update the mini bodies
Usually I have no problems. However, you still have to be discreet here in the States. Thanks for another great video Robin!
Great video Robin! Thanks for sharing.
These cameras are actually quite good given how old they are (I have the GF1 which is the sibling to the GM1 and GX1) and really enjoy using it. I mean it would be nice with an EVF but for a small pocket sized camera (that can fit in a coat pocket) they are still decent, providing you're not planning on printing anything very large (say larger than 8x10) as they are around 10-12 MP.
I'm so happy to have found you recently, Robin. I'm a fairly new subscriber and apart from the content itself, I love your contagious energy. I wish you the best. Keep up the amazing work and vibes!
Thank you Robin🙂
Cheers
Your great ! We love your enthusiasm 😊
Thanks, appreciate the kind words
My love of photography comes and goes, but your channel inspires me always to have another go...
Thanks for being here, and appreciate the kind words!
Thank you :)
Cheers
Looks like you are having fun Robin, good job.
It was a fun walk!
Hi Robin, I really enjoyed this video, sometimes I put pressure on my self to take the perfect picture. I feel a bit better now watching this video and not to be to hard on myself, and just enjoy the experience and to not worry about HIGH ISO. Thanks Robin 😊
My perfect combo is Lumix GM1 and Olympus 17mm f/1.8...love that lens.❤
great work
Thanks
Thanks robin, sometimes I need a reminder, "oh, that's not too bad".
Thanks, and yes, I need that reminder myself too
Great vlog Robin. Certainly makes me want to go out and do more night street photography
Thanks, and yes, please do go out and shoot more at night!
nice pictures robin, the dji did a nice job of documenting the process on video well done 👌😇
Great video, Robin! Please do more of these night walks showing KL's vibrancy.
Thanks Willian, more night videos to come for sure
Great video😊 thanks, I really like that little camera, we have the Orange one
Such great, fun images Robin. I really love the colours! Having come from a film based generation, noise never really bothers me. Colour noise does, but noise from gain can make a great creative statement. I'll have to pull out my old GF1 to see how it performs for me. Of course the technical limitations of this older model will be extremely challenging!
Thanks for all of your hard work and putting up with the body strain while creating these videos.
Thanks, appeciate the kind words, and more similar videos to come
That area really does look great at night. And I really liked those multiple / long exposure shots especially.
Thanks Chris, appreciate the kind words!
Great one Robin. You’re a walking evidence that gear isn’t everything 😊
Thanks, and yes, whatever we have is enough!
I enjoy watching your night photography video, Robin. Good jobs! Big LIKE from Singapore!👍😍👍
Thanks, appreciate the kind words
Hi Robin, such awesome pictures! Thank you so much for your inspiration. I will check out my GX800 with the Lumix 12-32 mm in Hamburg soon 😉
Thanks for the kind words, and yes please do go out and shoot more
Great video! I live in seremban and now I want to go there!
Yeah Bukit Bintang is lively at night
1:55 "I'm shooting in P-Mode because P is for PROFESSIONAL!" 🤣🤣🤣
Great video. I also have this GM1 with two primes, it's my to-go camera over my XT-3. I cannot find anywhere the original grip add-on, the metal one like the one you have.
One thing I thought about is the fact people regularly use their phones for photos at night, so I have no idea why anyone should be discouraged by taking night photos with crop sensor cameras. And then, it occurs to me sone FF shooters still get worried about noise and it's like what's the point of the camera lol. Beautiful shots, Robin!
You know what I really love about your channel Robin?? (Besides the education and encouragement ....) You make me look like a genius!! In the middle of the pandemic,there was a local add for a GM-1 with the 12-32. Now I was just looking for a replacement for the 12-32 to replace the one I ruined during a shoot in sand dunes. I picked that set up for $135 US and figured I would just sell that camera off. (BONUS-- It was an older lens that had the metal mount,,like in David Thorpe's video review). It turns out,, thanks to you and Emily,, I have been schooled in the ways of the mini street camera! Who needs a Fuji X100 VI with this little power house...I usually have the Pana-Leica 15mm 1.7 on it. I use it more than the E-PL7. Thanks for all you do!
Thanks Clint for the kind words and yes, these older, smaller camera are just so fantastic for street shooting. We don't need crazy high performing features, they just need to be compact enough, and you are off to an enjoyable adventure!
And generally speaking, what do you think are the advantages of the GM1 (except its size obviously) ? How does it perform, particularly in low light ?
@@theoven344 Robin's video here is a much better illustration then I've ever done in low light.. outside of a few black and white indoor shots. For me, I especially like the colors. It's also a reliable quick shooter in the iA mode. It doesn't begin to be a main camera but as a fun camera, it's hard to beat. I do have a couple of shots from my GM-1 published in a history journal with the 12 - 35 2.8 lens.. also 11X14 prints.
I'm new to the MFT system and would even give away my Canon full format if I saw that more small cameras such as the GX8/GX9 were being improved. For me, MFT only makes sense if it is small, light and inexpensive. You should concentrate on the essentials. Cameras with better autofocus and photo-specific functions for photographers without a lot of video and vlogging/video cameras for filmmakers. If you want to put both in a camera in the high-end segment, it will inevitably be big, heavy and expensive. I really hope that development does not move away from the unique selling point and that we adapt to the evil spirit that bigger is better. Many greetings and all the best from Wolfenbüttel in Germany ❤️
Thanks for the video and have a great Malaysian week. From Rob the Accountant, later's Robin.
Thanks Rob for checking in!
Hello Robin! Nice foto walk from you and nice pictures.I have also the GX880, GM1 and GM5 for second cam on Tour or main Cam if i will have a light weight possibility.This cams are very very nice.
Best regards from germany.
Thanks, and yes I love the GM1 too
I would love to see you trying a Nikon 1 in low light. Seeing what happens.
This is epic.
I don't think the results will be too different, maybe a bit noisier, but similar.
My 2nd favorite Lumix camera. I really hope they bring out a V2 of the GM and GX lines.
Don't leave us hanging 😅 what's #1?
@@bingbong4848 the GX8 of course.
Nice to see the famous GM1 🙂
I wish Pany would make a new GM.
Yeah hopefully they updated the GM series
@@robinwong I hope so. Also the GX series, that is the best! 😉
Nice photos.
Your low light conditions sure are bright compared to the conditions I face on a regular basis.
I have come to rely on my Olympus E-M5 iii for low light conditions. The auto ISO only goes to 6400, so there is some work to do in post, but OM Workspace is a great tool for the initial editing, so I'm very happy with most of my shots - even if they are underexposed quite a lot sometimes.
That GM1 does look like a nice little camera - I just haven't found a good enough reason to add it to my collection, when I already have a GX8 and an Olympus Pen E-PM1 mini as well as some tiny Sony NEX/E-mount gear.
If the "low light" conditions are bright, why did the camera select ISO25600 with relatively slow shutter speed? If it was truly bright, I'd imagine it selecting ISO800 or lower. But it constantly went above ISO6400 and beyond.
If you don't trust me, then at least trust the camera's metering? It doesn't lie. And I show everything before I click the shutter button, what was displayed on screen.
It was freaking dark in some scenes, else the camera won't choose ISO8000, or 25600 in a few cases.
@@robinwongI wasn't trying to criticize your video. I do in fact like your photos a lot.
The reality is, I shoot in conditions where the camera underexposes even at ISO 25600 with wide open aperture at f1.4 to f2.0 depending on the lens and a shutter speed of 1/60 or 1/125.
You get a lot less noise in your photos at maximum ISO because the camera has more light to work with, than when I shoot in very dark conditions because we have less street lights and other light sources outside (and less light pollution) than the many lights visible in your photos as well as the video.
You are a lucky man to have such relatively good conditions to shoot in at night.
1/4 second at ISO 200? The lens stabilization + Robin's shooting discipline = amazing!
Pocket 3 works great!
GM1 seems to handle high ISO a little too well, I don't see much noise at all.
As long as you don't do crazy amount of post-processing, or have severely underexposed shots, you should be good.
@@robinwong Wow, the GM1 is a serious bargain then. I think the prices are going up.
Fantastic! I had a quick question though, were most of the shots edited in Jpeg or in raw? Been hearing some suggestions that the jpeg engines do a better job sometimes than lightroom or snapseed post-process unless you're going into other software (ai) to help with the detail.
And any tips on shooting iso that high for m43 in general (e.g. I heard it's best to let go of underexposing when shooting in high iso because there's less detail recovery)?
Amazing! Did you perform noise cancelation in postforming? Or this photograph directly from camera?
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Where you bought this camera?? I am looking for one!
I'm an MFT user, and I'm surprised that you had so much detail at 25600. Well, I'm surprised you had so much detail at 3200 with that older body, TBH. I expected the 15mm f1.7 and just banking on shooting wide open.
At last ..😂.. please do some low light tests when you use other cameras and lens combinations, cheers 👌👍🙏
As long as it does not rain.
I use my GM5 a lot with the 42.5 f1.7 I know it‘s a little tight angle, but it has OIS and is f1.7
Yeah we need a new updated GM series cameras
I have this Lumix GM1 and 14mm f2.5 . Usually in low light, I shoot wide open with iso limit of 1600, and it’s great, sometimes I shoot at iso 3200 but the pictures come out quite noisy. For very low light shooting, I only shoot at black and white, no iso limit.
Actually good idea to take or convert into black and white photos if noise is too much.
To me the noise does not bother me that much. I focus more on story-telling, composition, finding the right moment, etc.
@@robinwong This is also good point.
1:57 "P is for professional" ROFL. But seriously, with modern AI noise reduction I have become FAR less concerned with high ISO noise. I get the shot and will worry about the noise in post. Sometimes I'll just leave in the grit, depending on the subject. After all, NYC is a gritty city.
I am more concerned with the subject, story, composition and lighting than noise. Even if there is noise, if I have a compelling story to tell, it is still a great photo.
The cam wasent the limiting factor, the lens was. I guess with the 15mm 1.7 it would be another world. Even with the GM1.
And I find the noise is rarely the problem. Colors suffer at high ISO.
As long as you don't mess with the colors too much in post-processing you should be fine
Hi Robin, enjoyed the video...I have a GM1 too and would never part with it. Did you use DXO pure raw or similar?
Nope, images were almost straight out of camera
@@robinwong remarkable
Hi Robin. I have noticed that the largest Photography Show in UK, at Birmingham, where Olympus has always attended and always offered free camera and sensor cleaning this year has stopped offering that. Kind of a bummer, but I'm curious on any ideas why "the change of heart"?
Olympus is no more, so the new company may do things differently.
Very good image. At 8000 iso is it the maximum of the camera?
If you watch closely there are several shots that went ISO25600
I think we have to talk about the definition of low light :) Because walking aroud a city lit up with neons, street lamps, advertisments , cars, etc. Is not low light, maybe 20 - 25 years ago ? But even a 10 year old camera like the GM1 does not consider this kind of enviroment as low light :) Even a portrait picture in total darkness with a face lit just by a smartphone screeen will turn out just fine. We need a new definition of low light. maybe the new benchmark for low light could be - Can a camera make a noisless picture of a person walking through a dark forest in half moon?
7:02 Is that durian‽
Yesssss
I love and hate this camera. I ended up selling mine as the controls were too small and fiddly. The back scroll wheel was just useless, I ended up always selecting something by accident when I was trying to adjust aperture or ISO.
It's a fun camera to hold, but not to use.
I know exactly what you mean about that wheel 😅
You just have to change your way to use the camera. This is not the camera for professional jobs that require beefier handling (DSLR-like), there are cameras for that. For street photography, I seldom adjust my settings, I just run and gun. Smaller cameras do a better job in this scenario. The more you change the settings on the street the more shots you will miss.
The GM1 would be perfect if it would have the click-wheel of the GF1/GF2 or GX1 ...
I think it is perfect the way it is. Adding more stuff would bulk it up too much.
Annoyingly my GM1 is producing some weird colourful lines on the images. I think the sensor is somehow defective. Rather annoying...
Did you send in to service/repair and check?
@robinwong Hi Robin, good suggestion. At current prices here in 🇬🇧, it'll most likely be more cost effective to buy a replacement than to service/repair. To be honest I really struggled with the fixed screen as it kind of limits creativity and shoot from the hip stealth, so I've got eyes on a gx8 as an EDC replacement.
I'm from Brazil, I've always wanted a camera like this but I can't find an English version anywhere, I can only find the Japanese version
there is a gx880 or 800 thats similar to this you could look for
I am sure, even a "Japanese version" has a language setting that can be set to English. I don't believe there is a Japanese "only" camera.
@@ProbablyAnAmateur I will check these models, thanks
@@robinwong I found on Ebay, several sellers saying that the Japanese model is only Japanese and it is not possible to change it to English, unfortunately not even by hacking the camera
Besok beli durian😂
Jomm buka puasa
Give this little beautiful camera a tripod,than you kick out all of these other cameras you have,this all you need, without the Pen F ;)
When a tripod is attached, it no longer is a little beautiful camera anymore. Using a tripod negates the true strength of a GM1
With all the street lighting, it's really not that dark, isn't it.
If it was not that dark, why did the camera select ISO25600 with relatively slow shutter speed? Why?
Hi Robin, you did well holding 2 cameras and getting clean shots. I’ve got the gm5 and usually put the Leica 15mm or oly 17mm prime on it if I go out in the evening knowing I’m going to struggle without IS in that camera. Only other option is to crank up the ISO or take out the em5….but I do prefer the pocketable camera.
Come on Panasonic, how about an update!? It’s been over 9 years now since that camera was released. 🥹
Yeah we certainly can use an update for the GM series cameras