I really think you should check out The Edge of Seventeen as a movie about teen girls going through the death of her father and her strained relationship with mainly her mom and older brother. I don’t see a lot of people covering it and I want to hear your more empathetic view of the movies main character that is unfairly depicted most times. Amazing video btw 🙌✨
An important point that Novum left out: the suffocation scene was shot in real time of how long it takes to actually kill someone from suffocating or strangulation. That was a deliberate choice by Fennell. The movie makes us watch all two and a half minutes of this decision; plenty of time, like Novum said, to come to his senses, realize it was wrong and stop. And I think this was another very powerful reference to a common form of violence exerted on women by men who get away with it. Think of all the cases you hear of a man strangling a woman to death “during rough sex” and it gets treated as a “whoopsie, I didn’t realize!” It took that long for Cassie to die. It took that long for each of those women to die. It took that long for the man to supposedly “not realize” she couldn’t breathe. And because just SAYING two minutes doesn’t seem like much, and because society is what this movie showed us it is, it’s a genuine defense in court that works constantly. But now, we’ve seen those two and a half minutes. We know how long it actually is while we’re experiencing it. We know that it’s plenty of time to realize, come to your senses, and stop. And yet… Hopefully, we will remember that scene the next time.
You are confusing air suffication with a blood choke. Blood chokes are when you put pressure on the blood vessels on the neck, starving the brain for oxygen. That leads to unconscuousness very fast, 15-20seconds and a whole lot less panic than air strangulation, wich takes minutes and causes a lot of panic. Watch a MMA-choke out and you’ll see what I mean. The lights goes out very fast. I’m not an advocate of these sexual practices at all, quite the contrary, but I can easily see how fatal accidents can occur without malicious intent.
@@cantycanvas4150wtf lol. No one is confused. They're referencing an act that took place on screen that men in real life attempt (often successfully) to excuse as an accident. That it takes so long is what makes the defense particularly bazaar. Why are you trying to "well *actually* " violence against women in a discussion about this movie? Did you not understand the film well? How embarrassing for you to have left that comment.
@@maloryj7165 You’re a little slow, I presume, so I’ll try to explain it again as one would do to a small child: There are two kinds of ”chokes” - blood choke and air choke. If you put pressure on the neck that pressure can either 1. Cut of air supply to the lungs. This takes a long time if it is to be lethal or render someone unconscious - as depicted in the movie. Takes minutes. 2. Stop blood flow in the veins and arteries to/from the brain. This will make someone unconscious in much less than a half a minute. You seem to be be totally unaware of these to very different mechanisms that can occur when pressure is put on the neck and therefore you assume that putting a stranglehold on someone always is a long and dramatic struggle. It is not. Sometimes it is VERY quick (blood choke) and rather undramatic. Hence I can easily understand that accidents can occur if people are doing those kind of things when having sex. I therefore am very much against those kind of practices since it is dangerous. But a deadly outcome is not necessarily a result of intented murder, it might be and it might not. See the difference? There is a difference between involuntary manslaughter and murder, and that is recognized in courtrooms all over the world. Edit add: Furthermore it was you who thought it was a good idea to take what you learned from a movie and apply it in real world judicial proceedings. That was the whole idea behind your initial comment. -I saw in a movie that it takes two and a half minute to strangle someone so therefore accidental deaths can never occur and it is always 1st degree murder. That was the gist of your argument. Then you have the nerve to imply that I didn’t understand the movie and that the discussion was all about the movie and that, reading between the lines, I support violence towards women. You are either very dumb or very dishonest.
@@cantycanvas4150 I don't know why you felt the need to repeat your self. Everyone else is talking about intentional murder by suffocation and you felt the need to correct someone by...changing the subject? That's the dumb part lol. Original comments like "men get away with straight up intentional murder" and you said "well actually, MMA, accidents, sex games." It's very silly. Feel free to continue writing more multi paragraph explanations of why you're right about the thing only you're talking about tho. It's cute.
@@maloryj7165 The repetition was obviously needed due to your lack of comprehension. It was you that implied that men habitually get out of murder charges in court, claiming accidental cause. You argued that those kind of accidents can not occur and that it’s all premeditated murder. The basis for your argument was that it takes a long time to strangle someone - a medical expert opinion that you appearantly picked up from this movie. I commented that the act of strangulation can have two different mechanisms - cutting of air flow to the lungs or cutting of blood flow to the brain - and that the latter will render someone unconscious VERY quickly. It depends on where on the throat pressure is applied. It’s easy to get wrong. Thus; sexual strangulation games can easily go wrong and it can happen very quickly (therefore shouldn’t be done). Thus: it is not necessarily murder. It may very well be in some cases, but in others it may be, what you implied is impossible, merely a tragic accident.
One morbid detail I thought was so chilling but brilliant was making Al’s field of medicine anesthesiology, aka him still having power over people’s bodies when they’re unconscious and subsequently being *rewarded* for it.
Also, as an anesthesiologist Al could have started CPR, called 911 and revived Cassie, but he chose NOT to. He broke his OATH to his profession, to do NO wrong! And how does he respond to being “found” out? He’s worried about losing his career, his GF, going to jail.
29:35 Promising Young Woman takes tropes from various RomComs and subverts them. When Bo Burnham takes Cassie back to his place without telling her where they are going, this is taken from a scene in “My Big Fat Greek Wedding,” where Ian, after months of dating Tula and her never inviting him inside (she’s a virgin who lives with her parents), instead of dropping her off at her own home, drives her back to his place without discussing it with her first. It’s played as romantic in the movie, but in real life that would actually be terrifying. There are a lot of romantic gestures that women are taught from RomComs which are actually quite dangerous in real life (, like a guy stalking your bedroom window with a boombox) and this movie subverts A LOT of those tropes.
I know the TV series "You" is all over the place, but I did like that it also tried to flip those RomCom troupes to show how creepy they can be. Maybe in the hands of a director like this, it could have been handled better
I also think the casting in this is perfect. So many of these men we’ve enjoyed in other comedies and seen them as funny and kind. Now we see them as monsters (but maybe don’t want to believe it at first). Amazing film.
I enjoy the shot of Cassie in the dean's office where there's this odd, large empty space next to Cassie the whole time she's shown. I like to think that empty space is maybe symbolic that Nina's case is not rare and that Cassie is not the only one who has (or is) meeting with the dean to attempt to address campus rape. Or, the space is reserved for Nina (and all the Ninas of the world) to watch as the dean is held accountable in the sharp-tongued, psychological-warfare manner that finally gets the point across. It also makes me think about how Cassie's personality is likely to have very strong influence from Nina. Cassie describes Nina as being "shrewd", and Cassie uses that same cold, biting attitude towards the dean. So in a way, Nina is right there in that empty space.
I love how on the first date, Ryan was talking about how she was so much smarter than everyone else in their class. Also, Nina was also top of the class, and the university STILL valued Al over her. It shows how our society ultimately values mediocre men over smart skilled women. All of those mediocre men are now doctors, but the promising young women were so easily disposable.
Except that’s not true. It’s something mediocre women like to believe so the movie was right to portray this unrealistic pandering for the target audience though.
I love these videos! I have a real hunger for thoughtful, detailed "reviews" of good films. By "reviews", I mean that we've seen the film and we want to review it, discuss it, analyze what was powerful and how it worked. Most actual movie reviews are (despite the name) written for people who haven't yet seen the film, so they try to avoid spoilers. It's hard to find detailed, thought-provoking movie discussions that treat us like adults and are willing to talk about all parts of a film. And videos are a great medium for this, because we can see visually what worked and what symbols were used, etc. Thanks for creating these!
Honestly Michael you've pretty much described to the tee my pathos in making this channel. I was so sick of turning on 'X Film Explained' videos and literally just having the plot recounted to me with nothing further added. I'm presuming most people are like us and they do want more from t but they're just used to the standard. Thanks so much for all the kind words, and your continued support - it's still really crazy to me that there's people watching more than one of my videos but it really does mean a lot, so thankyou!
Ryan, knows what happened(not the details), doesn’t help the police, then goes to the WEDDING of the guy who he saw rape someone and who MURDERED his ex! Just how many times can you fail to be a decent person?
Right? He is kind of the ultimate liar, not good person. Working with children, getting away with it. Definitely not a man… and adult man. He is the MOST pathetic even saying, “but I love you.” Which has nothing to do with watching a rape or with what Cassie was talking about.
I love how the biggest subversion of the movie is Cassie being smart enough to know what she is walking into, so she let people know (people that could do something about her disappearance) where she went, who she was with, and that if she didn’t make it out alive, her murderer was also her best friend’s rapist.
The title of the movie is also a take on "Promising Young Man". Something that has been heard so many times out of the mouths of parents, judges, juries, the press, teachers, society at large when referring to rapists who got off with light to no consequences, in spite of irrefutable proof of their heinous crimes. What of the Young women whose future has been violenty robbed? Who then are failed again and again?
This film was painful to watch because of my experience being SA’d as a teen. It really captured the anger I felt and the ridiculous attempts to protect the older male teen that did it, because surely his future was more important and the act is supposed to be accepted as something that “happens”. The ending broke me because of how realistic it was. I don’t want children because of how this world rears it’s males. I would never want to bring a daughter into this mess.
i remember being pretty affected by how the godfather opens. With the fathers pov narration of his daughter almost loosing her life from attempted rape. The whole flim was male perspective and even in the fathers pov he blames her a little. I think the underlying implication that these men are above the law, because if the woman didn't loose their life, then the men shouldnt lose their "life", either. Thats really disgusting
I am glad you won’t have kids. It is best to not continue the cycle but it is the same in being with males. Every time you bang them you enable them. Stop banging them. Plus the people who have boys are even worse by they become monsters as well.
Thank you for sharing. Had very similar experience when I was a teen & he was an older sports star...soo ya, couldn't mess up his future huh! But mine = pretty obliterated as my PTSD makes it hard to work full time most of the time & therefore close to poverty a lot. Same sentiments about children. I just lean into my spirituality. I have to believe in a God who will bring justice. Much love prayer & blessings to you ❤
Personally, I don't think Cassie hired a hitman to kill the lawyer. When I saw him appear on screen, my first thought was that she'd hired a big guy to scare/intimidate the lawyer, the same way the lawyer had scared Nina into dropping the case. As you said, Cassie's actions were purely psychological. I don't think at any point she wanted to physically hurt anyone.
I dont think that Cassie wanted the Lawyer to be killed either. The Film shows us the whole time that Cassie does not use physical violence to make a person accountable for their actions. And she is willing to give them a chance in the first place by trying to find out how they think about it now or if they handle things different and when she sees that someone has changed like the Lawyer she can let it go. I also dont believe that Cassie wants to kill Al Monroe in fact i dont think she really wanted to harm him physically in any way, she just wanted to push ihm over the edge because she knew he would kill her and thats what she wanted to finally hold him accountable. i think she did not cuffed him right so he could free him on one side and she knew Al and his best Buddy would do EVERYTHING to hide what they have done just like they did it in Ninas case and it would have a different impact in court. =)
Thank you so much for shedding light on the tonal shift post murder. It frustrated me so much. It didn’t occur to me that the frustration is exactly what Emerald would have wanted to leave her audience with. Also, I just discovered your channel, and also loved your work on The Green Knight. I subscribed and I’m looking forward to more nuanced breakdowns of amazing films.
Joyce thank you so much for this! I'm really happy this video aided you, it didn't really seem like many people were interested in the film but I thought it was astonishing. So happy you enjoyed the Green Knight video too, I'm especially proud of that one. Thank you so much for coming on board! Hereditary is the next big breakdown but feel free to make any suggestions!
This is from the show The L Word, but this quote from one of the female characters is really accurate. She says, " You won't find one woman or girl that hasn't been harassed or violated by a man at least once in their lifetime. "
I wasn't totally suspicious of Bo Burnham character at first (probably because I like and relate to him in real life) but I was so worried that he was going to turn out to be a pdf-phile because he makes a lot of mention of kids and being a pediatrician doesn't mean anything and they are really important but that is exactly the kind of job a person with that predilection might shoot for, power and alone time and actual medical permission to examine, touch, etc children, and he says things like he's "worried people will think you're my daughter" and "I'm afraid to kiss you for fear of people thinking you're a child" "because you're short" I feel like maybe that could be a funny joke if worded properly but it was creepy to me, and of course all the parts of r*pe culture that result in the sexualization of youth and young women in general, and it can go the other way around too, there are plenty of female teachers that abuse male students and it's still viewed largely as a good thing for the student when it's not, abuse is abuse nomatter what.
im so glad my mind wasn’t the only one who went there when he said those lines - pretty sussy, maybe there are undertones of more m1nor predatory behavior? Idk perhaps just a misdirect or hinting that Bo’s character isn’t fully innocent in his thinking
i feel like the whole thing with bos character was the audience being pulled into a false sense of security but he says so many things that just feel _off_, though i knew before going in that somehow he was going to be just as bad as the other men in the movie. tbh though aside from that i knew he wasnt to be trusted the moment he came back in and mentioned cassie giving him a wrong number, a clear sign she wasnt interested
I am only 22 min in and I'm really appreciating this commentary. Thank you. I'm feeling personally attacked and ashamed... causing me to question if/how I do this. Thanks.
i want to preface this by saying if someone has already made this point then i promise i’m not copying you, i just haven’t seen this analysis before! :) so something i couldn’t help but notice (which may be a stretch but a great thing about art is seeing what it means to you) was that there were five parts of cassie’s plan and that there are also five stages of grief? there’s some ways in which each stage correlates with the theme of her plan? 1 being denial and allison brie’s character denying her role as a woman turning a blind eye to SA in nina’s assault. 2 being anger and cassie’s frustration and anger towards the legal and social systems in place that allow cases like nina’s to be swept under the rug by academic institutions. 3 being bargaining. the definition of bargaining in terms of grief is “a stage in which you may try to negotiate with yourself or with a higher power to try to undo the loss” and you can see (even in a visual sense) that the lawyer is bargaining with cassie “as the higher power” as this seen as him begging and kneeling at her feet and her forgiving him for his sins in a Christ-like manner. 4 being depression of cassie being defeated and murdered in such a depressing way, especially because women all around the world unfortunately understood and could probably predict how the interaction from the get-go was going to end up, due to how women (and cassie) are forced to be aware of the realistic and real life situations/implications shown in this film. the whole fourth chapter has such a depressing and unsettling tone to it because we know these things to be far too common and not just a “dramatized scene for a fiction film”. with finally 5 being acceptance where we the audience are forced to accept cassie’s fate, where the antagonists of the film all are forced to accept their fate, and the commentary the film has made as a whole accepting that as intelligent and promising as cassie’s plan was, the film has accepted that sadly, these are how these type of situations play out due to the world we live in. okay that was long, but i kept noticing this trend during this brilliant video essay and felt like sharing :)
I was surprised you didn't touch upon the kind of glaring detail that the men's names in Cassie's black book are written in blue, black and red pen, and what that might indicate? It definitely does not seem like she's just switching pen colors at random, and might even indicate a more gruesome confrontations with some of the men.
I had that same question. After the scene with McLovin I started thinking maybe the red marks were people she killed, but it seems like that's probably not it.
I never even noticed that but I’m thinking now that maybe the colors represent the American flag? And how the United States very often allow or turn a blind eye to any form of struggle received by women. But idk lol
@@infinityrocks7360 Both that and the colors in the screenshot are all trans colors... not saying trans flag has anything top do with this story though... except maybe it do lol
@@infinityrocks7360 Though trans flag colors ARE mimmicking the normal American flag colors... not worse than my neighbor for Police Stating Drab Colorizing it
I’m so surprised that you didn’t mention that Cassie uses the same manipulative, predatory behaviors to implement steps in her final plan. Like during the meeting scene with Madison, Cassie plays the “man’s part”. She participates in the same manipulative behavior to get Madison to talk. She continually pours alcohol for her to drink while staying sober, the language she uses, and she even is dressed in traditionally masculine clothes vs Madison’s dress when you see them from torso down during both greetings. She also lures the teen into her car so easily by looking friendly, talking like a teen, pretending to be familiar, and thus “kidnapping” the daughter (you did mention this). And obvious the entire stripper nurse part of the plan she inverts roles like you mentioned. I think this shows how, like you mentioned earlier, this isn’t necessarily a gendered problem (it’s not inherently men that’s the problem, it’s grape culture that men benefit from), but that these actions, though they seem to hold individual men accountable, it still doesn’t change the system or culture. And then when she is murdered during the climax, it really turns this film into a horror film. Our vigilante hero is still the victim to the predators she seeks revenge on.
Exactly, the part when she's tying Al up she's saying things like "don't worry, you're safe, you have nothing to worry about, I'll take good care of you" etc it is really gripping
I mean, it is inherently a male problem. Men commit so much rape that it is intrinsically linked to the culture, in which women are trying to survive and live their lives. It's easier to live if you believe in "just world thinking", it wouldn't happen to you of course because you're not like all those other women who get themselves raped. Women are part of the problem, but without men committing rape, there would be no problem.
The style of furniture embellishments framing her is reminiscent of "Queen Anne Style" furniture. There is a story of the blue pigment and the painting of Anny Bolyn... and the... rape of Anne Bolyn... and Henry the 8th... and tyranny giving way to democracy... holy shit...there's a whole rabbit just on blue-colored Queene Anne furniture embellishments... dammmit... dammit!! (Edit: words... and added "dammits" for after I started looking up "Queen Anne of Bolyeyn Rape" "Queen Anne of Bolyeyn Painting Blue Pigment" after recognizing the architectural style of the framing elements)
I'm really glad the algorithm fed me this video. I don't have the heart to watch the actual movie, these types of videos help me appreciate them from an arm's length away. Amazing video essay, looking forward to seeing the rest of your channel!
I wish they showed pictures if Nina and Cassie at the end. Felt like seeing them their friendship and happy times would've been good because Nina feels erased in the movie.
Yeah, you're spot on with that and I think that's what they intended, but it is absolutely brutal how she's treated in/by the movie in order to get the point across!
Brutal by the movie and by the real society. And even if you're not met with this brutality yourself or if you're not a girl/woman - just knowing what does happen and what the world is really like, is also brutal for an innocent kid. At least if you are able to feel empathy.
I just remembered this movie and was surprised I missed so much, thank you for your thorough analysis it was really interesting to hear a full breakdown
I love your analysis, this one made me think I need to rewatch the movie and play close attention again to the language. Some of these things are so subtle that I think it gets missed if you're not looking for it. Also, happy to hear you'll be putting out more regular content! Looking forward to the next video!
Good to see you back Fire-breathing Momma! Thank you so much and yeah it really does encourage listening closely because it's all just so finely tuned towards manipulation and double meaning. Thanks so much for watching and continuing to support my stuff, it means a lot!
Cassie took on Nina’s whole essence, to the point of it almost totally erasing herself. The scene of her speaking with Nina’s mother is so telling, because it shows Nina as the one who was so curt and brash. Cassie wasn’t. It’s why that pastel pink, hyper girly aesthetic that Cassie wears and has around her (that even confuses Madison) is so odd to us at first. You don’t realize she is getting the revenge AS Nina. Cassie is taking on the nature that Al erased from her best friend with his assault. The moments we see the real Cassie are so telling. When she forgives Jordan, when she is sorry to Madison for not letting her know nothing happened in the hotel-when she’s talking about Nina to Al. This movie is so powerful. I’m glad when it makes people uncomfortable because you are SUPPOSED to feel that way. This isn’t a topic that you are supposed to be numb to. No one should talk about the topic of SA / r*pe casually. The Dean acts as if it’s just another day when a complaint comes in. And this movie shows you exactly how ugly it is, and how it ruins more than just one person. Cassie’s dad saying he missed her… he hadn’t seen his own daughter in seven years. God, and her parents then lose her completely to murder after seeing a glimmer of hope in her looking happy with Ryan. Thank you so much for doing this video essay. The amount of females talking about it is amazing but I am so happy to hear a man talk about this. You are opening up a whole dialogue to young men to take these topics in and learn. Definitely a movie I am always a fan of but it is not an easy watch when you remember how it ends for our main character. So glad they changed the ending to give us a more satisfying experience.
Another important part about Ryan: Cassie didn't know if the police when interview him, so while that is Ryan's last opportunity for redemption from Ryan's perspective, Cassie wasn't aware he would have that moment and left everything up to the lawyer. HOWEVER, the texts at the end show that Cassie knew that even after being shown the video footage of the assault, Ryan was still going to attend the wedding of the assailant. In her mind, she already knew his behavior wouldn't change - he would continue to enable.
I’m at a loss for words at how good this video was. There’s so much I wanna say but I can’t begin to spell it all out, so I’ll just settle for: I absolutely love your videos.
Extremely enthralled by your analysis. I wanted to put this on in the background while I was completing assignments but this video was so interesting and well done it captivated me just like the movie did. I have a new love for this movie that I didn’t realize could be achieved because of this breakdown. Thank you!
First off, love the way you approached this and the in-depth analysis. I found the casting choice for Cassie's parents to be very interesting since her mother is most well known as "Stiffler's Mom" from American Pie (an older woman who has sex with an 18yr old male and it's portrayed as positive as most older female/younger male assault is portrayed) and The Kurgan from Highlander. Clancy Brown may be in parental/guardian roles these days, but The Kurgan was the epitome of a masculine-rapist monstrosity who destroys things specifically because they are held sacred or important by others. It may be just me and the age at which I watched Highlander, but seeing him in any role is still inherently uncomfortable. The two of them are rather perfect as symbolic of the older generation who at the very least expect and tacitly condone predation. Again, loved the way you handled this analysis and the level of detail.
Im late to this video but i think this comment is so insightful! Connie britton as the dean is great casting too, she is probably most famous for the understanding guidance counselor/nurturing mother character she played on Friday Night Lights, so the refusal of the dean to be an ally to her female students is especially ironic. I picked up the subversion of type casting in romcom leads like adam brody and quirky best friend max greenfield, but i didnt appreciate the references for cassie's parents as well.
Been listening through a bunch of your videos and loving your insights. I also really appreciate how your voice is at the fore, making it really easy to concentrate and focus on what you're saying, too many channels have loud background noise/music. Since you've asked for suggestions I really love the Fargo franchise so if it's something you also enjoy it'd be great to hear your thoughts on it. Thanks a lot for all the content and I'm looking forward to anything you will release in the future.
Dude I really needed this this morning, got several emails from UA-cam age restricting my content so I'm extremely grateful for the kind words. I absolutely love Fargo, the original obviously but I think the height of it for me is the premiere/pilot of the first season with Martin Freeman's gradual breakdown. And Billy Bob in that whole series is just so fun to watch so I think there's a safe bet I'll do something on that in the future. Thanks so much for watching dude and for taking the time to comment.
Nuanced and thought provoking analysis- love it! Also, not sure if you covered this but “Cassandra” was significant in Greek myth as ‘she who entangles men’ and was doomed not to be believed. Cassandra saw what others wouldn’t/couldnt.
Have you seriously implied that she was planning to murder the lawyer and Nina's rapist? (I might misunderstood because of my poor english) It would have been so out of character considering what she did with her other "victims". I had an impression that she only wanted to carve Nina's name on her rapist (like in the girl with the dragon tattoo) Anyway thank you for this analysis
@GhostOfCarlJung I would get it if Cassie intended to kill him, but I think she knew that he would try to kill her, and prepared herself to kill him if necessary. In the end she didn’t win, but I think she wanted him to live with the shame of what he did just like Nina had to live with the “shame” others put on her for what he did. Just like she made everyone else remember how they aided in his getting away with it.
@@avanewyorkcity to carve Nina’s name all over his body. This way, he has to live with the shame of his actions on his body (much like the bodily harm he inflicted on Nina), and everyone will have to remember who Nina was.
It is not made explicit that Cassie intends to kill Al, but I think it is hinted. I think the other people she plans revenge towards either were women complicit in Nina’s attack, or they were men who intended to assault her, but were stopped beforehand. The man outside the lawyer’s home may have been a hitman, or he could’ve just been meant to intimidate Jordan. But Emerald Fennell has explicitly stated the reason she chose the ending was because Cassie chose violence, and she didn’t think that choice could produce any other outcome. I personally really liked the ending because even though we understand why Cassie is seeking revenge, she’s ultimately perpetuating harm instead of dealing with her trauma in a healthy way. After the realization about Ryan, I definitely believed she was capable of killing Al, even if that wasn’t her original goal.
I love behind the scenes stuff but it's usually difficult to find a reason to include it, luckily here it tied into the dollhouses directly! Thanks for watching!
The movie was realistic, but i spent the all movie expecting that she overpower those guys. In the beginning i kinda wanted that she was an actual serial killer. I totally undertsand that would miss the point of the intire movie, but my necessity to see female rage on screen was bigger.
Excellent explanation! I hope more ppl like you use your platform to open more eyes like this. It's so important to make today's society aware.🙌🙌🙌🙌 Also sidenote, I'm incredibly grateful my brothers taught me how to defend myself physically. I hope more guys are like that with their younger sisters.
I think it's also really clever that (for most of the movie) we're meant to think Cassie kills men and and that Ryan is genuinely a good guy, so despite the clear message of the movie and the evidence right in front of our faces, we see Cassie as the predator and Ryan as the unwitting (potential) victim
I actually think the guy playing Al is cast because he has played good guys in the past, someone pointed out that most of the men in the film have played good guys in the past. Joe and Al are both played by actors who played good guys on Veronica Mars where the longest arc is Veronica trying to find out who raped her before the events of the season. I think casting these men that were the good guys, not "nice guys" is to say something about the danger of men even if you don't think of them as bad guys. Adam Brody also played good guys on TV around the same time. It's basically the men millennial women grew up watching in roles where they were kind considerate and non threatening.
Plus they cast Alfred Molina and Clancy Brown, two men who famously play villains or at least threatening characters, as the least threatening men in the film
this movie was amazing. thankyou for making this video bc I wouldn't have found the movie. I'm not going to lie, I thought Cassie was gonna get up after Al strangled her. I thought it was a ruse and she set him up. But then the morning came. I was so sad! The fact that it was so easy to get rid of her for his friend made me feel like he did this before... I knew our girl had a plan though! She got the justice for Nina and herself. I will definitely be re-watching the movie. And I've been binging your videos for the past day, so I can't wait to see what I discover next!
My partner and I watched "Promising Young Woman" and "Saltburn" last night and loved both of them. I've been skipping over this video in your output for ages as I hadn't seen the film yet and did not want to watch a comprehensive breakdown until I actually had a chance to see it. Personally, I had a very slight preference to the almost nihilistic cruelty of "Saltburn"-- a movie I can absolutely understand people having divisive opinions about-- but that preference is on par with liking a really great pizza slightly more than another really great pizza. "Promising Young Woman" is a lot more "on the nose" with it's divisiveness as it's pretty obvious the only reason to get bent out of shape about it is inherently related to insecure masculinity. As usual, a fantastic breakdown and another hook keeping me checking the page on the daily for the Midsommar/Wicker Man breakdown... no rush though... I can always re-watch the Hereditary video (a rare case of youtube content being about as excellent as the source material) for the 5th time. An activity that registers as "concerning" by friends.
Started this but it hit too close to home, probably the same for a lot of people out there esp females. It's late so I'll try again another time so I don't have nightmares of the guys this reminds me of
Yeah, I imagine this, and more importantly the movie, is a very difficult watch for a lot of people and I understand completely. I'm so sorry to hear that Tirzah, I hope you've had better experiences recently and moreover I hope we're moving towards somewhere where experiences like them will finally cease. I doubt it though :( Please don't feel obliged to try and watch this, I'm very grateful for your support already and the last thing I want is to compound any painful memories. Best wishes to you.
I just finished your Hereditary review and now looking forward to this one. Really enjoying your detailed analyses on a variety of films 🙌🏾🙌🏾 You just got a new subscriber. Looking forward to watching more!
I loved your video and your insights on this amazing movie! Your comments are deep, thoughtful and clear. I watched this movie when it came out and many reviews afterwards which I found (most of them) superficial and simplistic. During the movie I laughed so much remembering a lot of those "friends/classmates/colleagues/teammates/bosses" making similar moves in countless occasions; lots of "nice guys" all of them genuinely believing they're not doing anything wrong because their friends, teachers, parents, supervisors and even the police, enable their behavior and prioritize their future, reputation and life over those of the women they abuse. Al mentioned "It's a guy's worst nightmare" and Cassie asking if he knows what's a girl's worst nightmare, they have no idea and that's why this movie and analysis like yours are so valuable. I'm happy I found your channel (even if late), I'll stay around to watch more of your videos.
The image at 54:55 is less, I think, a copy of a particular portrait and more a generality. It looks like a nimbus or aureole (though they're typically golden or white), which symbolize glory, holiness, and/or martyrdom. I'd say this particular case is the latter, and they posed her so as to capture the vibe of it.
FANTASTIC VIDEO ❤ subbed and shared it with my fellow gf’s who also adore this movie like I do. The whole forgiveness if true accountability and regret is shown is something that doesn’t usually happen in movies (for action scenes to happen I’m sure) or if they do forgive, they usually pay for it later. The closing scene of them all publicly called out during the wedding is exactly what they did to themselves by always denying their own actions. It’s a perfect example of modern tragedy yet the true tragedy is how often this happens in our world. Most of my friends and I have been SA in one way or another…some small and easily acceptable in society and others of downright R with even partner’s being the source of it. I did have to watch something overly cheerful and cheesy after watching this movie since it was bringing back way too many college memories.
25:25 Now see I thought tittle’s subversion comes in regarding how men accused of SA need their character defended, bc they excel at sports, academics and so forth. As if their supposed successful futures are more important than the disgusting actions they are being accused of.
Thank you Novum you are awesome! ❤ Not a fan of jock bros and don’t usually go where they are but super tall Chad was at the place i go dancing with my friends and tonight i had to hand out flyers for our next Wednesdays goth dance party. Btw I’m gen x but i dress and act young so even though I’m 52 people think I’m 35 and i think Chad thought i was his age but I’m probs 20 years older. Chad kept trying to touch me. “Dance but don’t touch”. I said . He held my hand and kissed it to show he was a gentleman. I was like “eyeroll” he’s still touching me and i said no but your trying to be a gentleman even though . Still no. He then let go of my hand, ran it through his hair like a 5 th grader protraying 50’s cartoon Greaser and held it up really high , challenging me to do a high 5. Clever Chad tactic to challenge girls to touch him instead and usually fail because they usually can’t reach. Also, way to turn the tables Chad. I’m 6ft tall in shoes so i hit the bottom of his hand. “You didn’t make it” He said. “Yes i did Bitch.” I said. “That didn’t count” he said. And this allegory reminds me of my life in the Patriarchy. I accomplished enough in my male dominated career to be listed in multiple Wikipedia and celebrity google searches but because my accomplishments go ignored by the brodeo I’m still struggling while they got all the breaks. All i want to do is dance. And of course Jock Douche has to turn it into drama. They always get so emotional like little brat babies. Anyways Chad didn’t like me having normal human boundaries so he did this aggressive dance bullshit and kept trying to touch me. It was super hot out and i was getting a hot flash and also don’t like jock bros anyways so i kept being like , “please don’t touch me!” Why cant you just act normal and dance like 2 feet away without touching people you don’t know? Then like those douche jock bros always do, when you say no they get all aggressive. He starting flipping me on off and causing drama “Fuck you then! I hate you!” White jock douche bros always flip like a switch and become instantly angry and aggressive when they don’t get everything their way , because they live a life in a white man Patriarchy, built to benefit them nothing in life punishes them with consequences for acting like a little bitch baby. The world I’m trying to build with my life’s work is an entire different reality for all the magic beings suffering constantly in the Patriarchy trying to survive within a system that doesn’t benefit us. While working double time to have a PHD in DIY and create our own reality, because the corporate funding of the Patriarchy is resistant to fund a message that goes against them. Well… unless that intellectual property is worth millions. Then, like the whores they are, Corporate Capitalism will approve it and fund it. But only for the money. The Goddess protects and guides me. I live to serve her and embody her and she will prevail because under the streets and the laws built by man is the law of Mother Nature and that’s the true reality.
So the Halo maybe a reference to prophets, and Cassie is short for Cassandra who was a prophet from ancient Greece who foresaw terrible disasters but wasn’t believed. She may also be considered a martyr
I'm so glad you enjoyed it - I'm very proud of my comments section it's honestly super constructive/wholesome across pretty much all my vids. Thanks for watching!
Hey Novum, I love your content and think the analysis is brilliant. Have you ever considered going with more typical video essay style names for your videos? The 'everything explained' or ultimate guide format may make potential viewers think your video is more recap style content ( like a lot of other UA-camrs who make such videos) and not click for that reason. It didn't stop me lol, but this is a thought I had whilst viewing
The style of furniture embellishments framing her is reminiscent of "Queen Anne Style" furniture. There is a story of the blue pigment and the painting of Anne Bolyn... and the... rape of Anne Bolyn... and Henry the 8th... and tyranny giving way to democracy... holy shit...there's a whole rabbit just on blue-colored Queene Anne furniture embellishments... dammmit... dammit!! (Edit: words... and added "dammits" for after I started looking up "Queen Anne of Bolyeyn Rape" "Queen Anne of Bolyeyn Painting Blue Pigment" after recognizing the architectural style of the framing elements)
If you're not a survivor, I understand there's an element missing in order to fully comprehend what occurs when someone violates you. Sticks and stones, blah blah blah, but emotional trauma scars forever. When another literally violently steals a piece of your soul, it's the rage over that loss that the victim now has to contend with. The brain can't handle such a terror. And bloody, violent, unhinged revenge is something that you want. How does any one person deal with that? Rage has no affiliates. No gender or race or anything else. But society forever has told the women that "women aren't violent." And all of time proves that to be untrue. So now what? 🖤
Hotel restaurant visuals are super impactful. Madison wearing figure-hugging white dress with beige purse = her recently adopted (pretense of) virginal “good girl” (who just bore twins and got back to girlish figure tout de suite! and ditched her medical profession to become the accepted unchallenging vessel of all-accepting - of male dominance- femininity (similar to Al Monroe’s suddenly adopted pre-marital “moral compass” attributed to his bride, a vapid bikini model😂) is contrasted with Cassie (aiming to end a seriously tragic social injustice) wearing black PANTS and white gender-neutral/non-slim-fitting shirt and professional hairstyle=reality of non -denied love and utter heartbreak for our loved ones who have been senselessly destroyed. PS: Here’s a challenge: Nina is the Christ figure -hope you have fun figuring it out🤍
Something that still infuriates me is how a bunch of online neckbeard/PUA/Andrew Tate fans complained that Carey Mulligan wasn't 'hot' enough to pull off this role, and it should've been Margot Robbie. Like ... (a) what are you talking about, she's objectively very pretty, as IF any of these incels would say no to Carey; (b) it's not only the Margot Robbies of the world who get SA'd; (c) these are probably the same trolls who have recently been commenting about how 'mid' Margot is. Just ew.
The cuasi square that frame Cassie in the movie is associated to a Saint in life or a persone who is going to be saint. This is in the bizantine Catholic culture... So when I saw that square I remenbered I thought... Hooo crap... She is dead... She is not going to survive the movie...😢
I thought, because it is a Queene Anne style decoration, that it was "framing" Cassie as the classic, murdered, Femme Fatale: Queen Anne of Boleyn and that's why it was foreshadowing Cassie's death. Interesting we got the same reading from a completely different interpretation! lol
Great video. All of the decor of Cassie’s parents’ home is uber-old-school feminine bordello-like (all sofa’s have a two-breast silhouette, other pieces are sexual and/or predatory or orgasmic) and the outdoor (intentionally) decor of Nina’s mom’s home is fairy-tale cottage-like (denying of anything serious/painful similar to Nina’s mom’s denial of needing to address grievable sexual violence against “promising” women).
I love how the reviewer says at the end “this movie is beautiful, it’s ugly,…”. The review is spot on. The movie made me so uneasy with every potential rape scene but just when the scene is about to push past unease into complete disgust Cassie takes control. Movies like this always make me reanalyze how I speak to my teen daughters. I LOATHE the phrase “boys will be boys”. It’s such a fine line between making sure my daughters understand that this predatory behavior exists without trying to put all the responsibility on them. A woman should not have to ever question her safety yet not allowing herself to be in a position to question her safety is also important. On the other side of the coin I’m also teaching my son to be accountable for his actions and to respect everyone until they prove they are unworthy of respect (like the men in this movie). This is a powerful movie and still relevant today.
only two minutes in but i see the hopeful intention behind the movie flew completely over your head with the statement "this movie is about a woman obsessed with toxic male behavior" actually it's about a woman whose life has been destroyed by the suicide of her best friend who was raped in college. i think you should understand the material before making a video commentating on it ...
For the painting reference at 55:00, I believe it's a reference to the "immaculate Heart" Virgin Mary paintings specifically the one with a blue background with a halo behind her head. Try as I might I can't find out who painted it, but it's the second picture on the Immaculate Heart of Mary Wikipedia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Heart_of_Mary That's my best guess.
I think it’s interesting how Cassie frequently is in Christ-like positions but also is depicted with Mary iconography, both the sacrifice and the care-giver, a ‘lamb’ and a Madonna… just a thought lol
It's also referencing Queen Anne of Boleyn: a classic Femme Fatale that meets an unfortunate end. The decoration is reminiscent of Queene Anne style furniture flair
I know this is a couple years or so later so unsure you'll see this but when you ask at 55:03 what that may be representing, my first thought was Mother Mary, as she usually is adorned in many paintings with that babyish blue, and sometimes pink roses, but it made me look up for more specific photo I just googled saint blue pink and lo and behold I found a mosaic of Saint Agatha of Sicily, who has blue halo & pink happens to be a patron saint of rape victims! I wish I could post here but going to see if I can message you it. Thank you for pointing out these things I love finding all of the extra symbolism especially as it affects our subconscious I believe and love learning
I'm sorry, but do u remember any sources you used while producing this? I might want to do some research myself on this topic and would love to get some first hand insight. Mostly because I will write my seminar paper on this movie, which will have to be approximately 10 pages long. Sources will then be a necessity, which is why I'm asking. Thank you for this video though, it gave me a lot to think about
Hi Nina, thanks for watching and thanks for including me in your studies. If I did use sources in this video they will be mentioned/clearly visible on screen. But I think in this instance this is almost entirely my reading of the movie, there really isn't too much out there in terms of secondary sources. That being said most universities are perfectly accepting of Youtbe sources and everything I say here is backed up by evidence drawn straight from the film. So you could either reference the video or just use the same evidence/logic I've used to construct your own argument! I frequently sourced UA-cam videos (and many other far more sus websites) during my BA and my Masters degree. What's important is the quality of the source, not where you're sourcing it from (except in instances like wikipedia where the public can freely edit). Your faculty should have a list of acceptable sources and how best to reference them. In terms of your essay if you're worried about having a large wordcount to fill my advice on that is twofold: 1. Consider a comparitive essay. This would pair really well with something like 'She Said' also staring Carey Mulligan. Much easier to write more, you can talk about key similarities and differences etc. 2. Pick a topic that seems targeted but is quite broad. For example if we say 'Promising Young Woman as an example of revenge movies' then you can essentially talk about the entirety of the movie (and a whole genre of film) while seemingly directing it all to the same point. Another good one would be looking at it as a protest movie that's metaphorical for a groundswell of female anger in the post me-too era. Hope that helps, sorry I don't have a source list I can just send you, I do on a lot of my other videos but it just wasn't an option here! Good luck with the essay!
Any thoughts re Cassie’s name…? A link to Cassandra of mythology, or I also took it to be a riff on ‘castrate’ Sheesh! Her outfits and the color-scheme at times (the blue/pink) calls out (not only stereotypic male/female coloring by society) possibly Alice in Wonderland or Dorothy from Wizard of Oz - these great fanciful tales that may appear benign, magical and fun, but ultimately have much danger as well, with a friend here or there on the journey but not many and it’s a difficult ‘road.’ Also the candy-coloring portrays a ‘consumable item’ - something we can chew on, eat, we want to consume it. I enjoyed your piece on ‘Alien’ - fantastic!
Lots more videos coming soon guys! Let me know what you want to see here!
Would you ever do a video on Synecdoche, New York?
@@ladyheroin.v4143 Let me watch it and I'll let you know! I've heard very good things so I'll get it downloaded ASAP.
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I would love to hear your analysis of Barton Fink.
I really think you should check out The Edge of Seventeen as a movie about teen girls going through the death of her father and her strained relationship with mainly her mom and older brother. I don’t see a lot of people covering it and I want to hear your more empathetic view of the movies main character that is unfairly depicted most times. Amazing video btw 🙌✨
An important point that Novum left out: the suffocation scene was shot in real time of how long it takes to actually kill someone from suffocating or strangulation. That was a deliberate choice by Fennell. The movie makes us watch all two and a half minutes of this decision; plenty of time, like Novum said, to come to his senses, realize it was wrong and stop. And I think this was another very powerful reference to a common form of violence exerted on women by men who get away with it. Think of all the cases you hear of a man strangling a woman to death “during rough sex” and it gets treated as a “whoopsie, I didn’t realize!” It took that long for Cassie to die. It took that long for each of those women to die. It took that long for the man to supposedly “not realize” she couldn’t breathe. And because just SAYING two minutes doesn’t seem like much, and because society is what this movie showed us it is, it’s a genuine defense in court that works constantly. But now, we’ve seen those two and a half minutes. We know how long it actually is while we’re experiencing it. We know that it’s plenty of time to realize, come to your senses, and stop. And yet…
Hopefully, we will remember that scene the next time.
You are confusing air suffication with a blood choke.
Blood chokes are when you put pressure on the blood vessels on the neck, starving the brain for oxygen. That leads to unconscuousness very fast, 15-20seconds and a whole lot less panic than air strangulation, wich takes minutes and causes a lot of panic. Watch a MMA-choke out and you’ll see what I mean. The lights goes out very fast.
I’m not an advocate of these sexual practices at all, quite the contrary, but I can easily see how fatal accidents can occur without malicious intent.
@@cantycanvas4150wtf lol. No one is confused. They're referencing an act that took place on screen that men in real life attempt (often successfully) to excuse as an accident. That it takes so long is what makes the defense particularly bazaar. Why are you trying to "well *actually* " violence against women in a discussion about this movie? Did you not understand the film well? How embarrassing for you to have left that comment.
@@maloryj7165 You’re a little slow, I presume, so I’ll try to explain it again as one would do to a small child:
There are two kinds of ”chokes” - blood choke and air choke. If you put pressure on the neck that pressure can either
1. Cut of air supply to the lungs. This takes a long time if it is to be lethal or render someone unconscious - as depicted in the movie. Takes minutes.
2. Stop blood flow in the veins and arteries to/from the brain. This will make someone unconscious in much less than a half a minute.
You seem to be be totally unaware of these to very different mechanisms that can occur when pressure is put on the neck and therefore you assume that putting a stranglehold on someone always is a long and dramatic struggle. It is not. Sometimes it is VERY quick (blood choke) and rather undramatic. Hence I can easily understand that accidents can occur if people are doing those kind of things when having sex.
I therefore am very much against those kind of practices since it is dangerous.
But a deadly outcome is not necessarily a result of intented murder, it might be and it might not. See the difference?
There is a difference between involuntary manslaughter and murder, and that is recognized in courtrooms all over the world.
Edit add:
Furthermore it was you who thought it was a good idea to take what you learned from a movie and apply it in real world judicial proceedings. That was the whole idea behind your initial comment.
-I saw in a movie that it takes two and a half minute to strangle someone so therefore accidental deaths can never occur and it is always 1st degree murder.
That was the gist of your argument. Then you have the nerve to imply that I didn’t understand the movie and that the discussion was all about the movie and that, reading between the lines, I support violence towards women.
You are either very dumb or very dishonest.
@@cantycanvas4150 I don't know why you felt the need to repeat your self. Everyone else is talking about intentional murder by suffocation and you felt the need to correct someone by...changing the subject? That's the dumb part lol. Original comments like "men get away with straight up intentional murder" and you said "well actually, MMA, accidents, sex games." It's very silly. Feel free to continue writing more multi paragraph explanations of why you're right about the thing only you're talking about tho. It's cute.
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The repetition was obviously needed due to your lack of comprehension.
It was you that implied that men habitually get out of murder charges in court, claiming accidental cause. You argued that those kind of accidents can not occur and that it’s all premeditated murder. The basis for your argument was that it takes a long time to strangle someone - a medical expert opinion that you appearantly picked up from this movie.
I commented that the act of strangulation can have two different mechanisms - cutting of air flow to the lungs or cutting of blood flow to the brain - and that the latter will render someone unconscious VERY quickly. It depends on where on the throat pressure is applied. It’s easy to get wrong. Thus; sexual strangulation games can easily go wrong and it can happen very quickly (therefore shouldn’t be done).
Thus: it is not necessarily murder. It may very well be in some cases, but in others it may be, what you implied is impossible, merely a tragic accident.
One morbid detail I thought was so chilling but brilliant was making Al’s field of medicine anesthesiology, aka him still having power over people’s bodies when they’re unconscious and subsequently being *rewarded* for it.
Also, as an anesthesiologist Al could have started CPR, called 911 and revived Cassie, but he chose NOT to.
He broke his OATH to his profession, to do NO wrong!
And how does he respond to being “found” out? He’s worried about losing his career, his GF, going to jail.
29:35 Promising Young Woman takes tropes from various RomComs and subverts them. When Bo Burnham takes Cassie back to his place without telling her where they are going, this is taken from a scene in “My Big Fat Greek Wedding,” where Ian, after months of dating Tula and her never inviting him inside (she’s a virgin who lives with her parents), instead of dropping her off at her own home, drives her back to his place without discussing it with her first. It’s played as romantic in the movie, but in real life that would actually be terrifying.
There are a lot of romantic gestures that women are taught from RomComs which are actually quite dangerous in real life (, like a guy stalking your bedroom window with a boombox) and this movie subverts A LOT of those tropes.
I know the TV series "You" is all over the place, but I did like that it also tried to flip those RomCom troupes to show how creepy they can be. Maybe in the hands of a director like this, it could have been handled better
I hadn’t put that together at all - thank you for sharing!
I also think the casting in this is perfect. So many of these men we’ve enjoyed in other comedies and seen them as funny and kind. Now we see them as monsters (but maybe don’t want to believe it at first). Amazing film.
I enjoy the shot of Cassie in the dean's office where there's this odd, large empty space next to Cassie the whole time she's shown. I like to think that empty space is maybe symbolic that Nina's case is not rare and that Cassie is not the only one who has (or is) meeting with the dean to attempt to address campus rape. Or, the space is reserved for Nina (and all the Ninas of the world) to watch as the dean is held accountable in the sharp-tongued, psychological-warfare manner that finally gets the point across.
It also makes me think about how Cassie's personality is likely to have very strong influence from Nina. Cassie describes Nina as being "shrewd", and Cassie uses that same cold, biting attitude towards the dean. So in a way, Nina is right there in that empty space.
I absolutely love that reading
I love that
Empty space is usually to show the character as small and vulnerable. Me against the world style.
I love how on the first date, Ryan was talking about how she was so much smarter than everyone else in their class. Also, Nina was also top of the class, and the university STILL valued Al over her.
It shows how our society ultimately values mediocre men over smart skilled women. All of those mediocre men are now doctors, but the promising young women were so easily disposable.
Except that’s not true. It’s something mediocre women like to believe so the movie was right to portray this unrealistic pandering for the target audience though.
@ wow you’re really emotional there
I love these videos! I have a real hunger for thoughtful, detailed "reviews" of good films. By "reviews", I mean that we've seen the film and we want to review it, discuss it, analyze what was powerful and how it worked. Most actual movie reviews are (despite the name) written for people who haven't yet seen the film, so they try to avoid spoilers. It's hard to find detailed, thought-provoking movie discussions that treat us like adults and are willing to talk about all parts of a film. And videos are a great medium for this, because we can see visually what worked and what symbols were used, etc. Thanks for creating these!
Honestly Michael you've pretty much described to the tee my pathos in making this channel. I was so sick of turning on 'X Film Explained' videos and literally just having the plot recounted to me with nothing further added. I'm presuming most people are like us and they do want more from t but they're just used to the standard. Thanks so much for all the kind words, and your continued support - it's still really crazy to me that there's people watching more than one of my videos but it really does mean a lot, so thankyou!
"Film analysis" is absolutely what you're looking for, thankfully we don't need to share the word "review" :)
@@smileyp4535exactly. It's not review, it's analysis
Yep
Are y'all really picking on the semantics of review and analysis? 😅
Ryan, knows what happened(not the details), doesn’t help the police, then goes to the WEDDING of the guy who he saw rape someone and who MURDERED his ex! Just how many times can you fail to be a decent person?
Right? He is kind of the ultimate liar, not good person. Working with children, getting away with it. Definitely not a man… and adult man. He is the MOST pathetic even saying, “but I love you.” Which has nothing to do with watching a rape or with what Cassie was talking about.
I love how the biggest subversion of the movie is Cassie being smart enough to know what she is walking into, so she let people know (people that could do something about her disappearance) where she went, who she was with, and that if she didn’t make it out alive, her murderer was also her best friend’s rapist.
The title of the movie is also a take on "Promising Young Man".
Something that has been heard so many times out of the mouths of parents, judges, juries, the press, teachers, society at large when referring to rapists who got off with light to no consequences, in spite of irrefutable proof of their heinous crimes.
What of the Young women whose future has been violenty robbed? Who then are failed again and again?
What you're explaining at around 6:00 is the phenomenon of "blurred lines".
Men rely on blurred lines to get away with predatory behaviour.
This film was painful to watch because of my experience being SA’d as a teen. It really captured the anger I felt and the ridiculous attempts to protect the older male teen that did it, because surely his future was more important and the act is supposed to be accepted as something that “happens”. The ending broke me because of how realistic it was. I don’t want children because of how this world rears it’s males. I would never want to bring a daughter into this mess.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I related to it and appreciate you. :)
@@KairiKH21 Big internet hug to you, sis.
i remember being pretty affected by how the godfather opens. With the fathers pov narration of his daughter almost loosing her life from attempted rape. The whole flim was male perspective and even in the fathers pov he blames her a little. I think the underlying implication that these men are above the law, because if the woman didn't loose their life, then the men shouldnt lose their "life", either. Thats really disgusting
I am glad you won’t have kids. It is best to not continue the cycle but it is the same in being with males. Every time you bang them you enable them. Stop banging them. Plus the people who have boys are even worse by they become monsters as well.
Thank you for sharing. Had very similar experience when I was a teen & he was an older sports star...soo ya, couldn't mess up his future huh! But mine = pretty obliterated as my PTSD makes it hard to work full time most of the time & therefore close to poverty a lot. Same sentiments about children. I just lean into my spirituality. I have to believe in a God who will bring justice. Much love prayer & blessings to you ❤
Personally, I don't think Cassie hired a hitman to kill the lawyer. When I saw him appear on screen, my first thought was that she'd hired a big guy to scare/intimidate the lawyer, the same way the lawyer had scared Nina into dropping the case. As you said, Cassie's actions were purely psychological. I don't think at any point she wanted to physically hurt anyone.
I dont think that Cassie wanted the Lawyer to be killed either. The Film shows us the whole time that Cassie does not use physical violence to make a person accountable for their actions. And she is willing to give them a chance in the first place by trying to find out how they think about it now or if they handle things different and when she sees that someone has changed like the Lawyer she can let it go. I also dont believe that Cassie wants to kill Al Monroe in fact i dont think she really wanted to harm him physically in any way, she just wanted to push ihm over the edge because she knew he would kill her and thats what she wanted to finally hold him accountable. i think she did not cuffed him right so he could free him on one side and she knew Al and his best Buddy would do EVERYTHING to hide what they have done just like they did it in Ninas case and it would have a different impact in court. =)
Thank you so much for shedding light on the tonal shift post murder. It frustrated me so much. It didn’t occur to me that the frustration is exactly what Emerald would have wanted to leave her audience with. Also, I just discovered your channel, and also loved your work on The Green Knight. I subscribed and I’m looking forward to more nuanced breakdowns of amazing films.
Joyce thank you so much for this! I'm really happy this video aided you, it didn't really seem like many people were interested in the film but I thought it was astonishing. So happy you enjoyed the Green Knight video too, I'm especially proud of that one. Thank you so much for coming on board! Hereditary is the next big breakdown but feel free to make any suggestions!
This is from the show The L Word, but this quote from one of the female characters is really accurate. She says, " You won't find one woman or girl that hasn't been harassed or violated by a man at least once in their lifetime. "
Oh, so you avidly watched 'The L Word' Mr. OfCarlJung? @GhostOfCarlJung
@OffTheWagonsthat whole storyline had me fucked up I was so pissed when he stayed around for a while longer
Absolutely true.
I wasn't totally suspicious of Bo Burnham character at first (probably because I like and relate to him in real life) but I was so worried that he was going to turn out to be a pdf-phile because he makes a lot of mention of kids and being a pediatrician doesn't mean anything and they are really important but that is exactly the kind of job a person with that predilection might shoot for, power and alone time and actual medical permission to examine, touch, etc children, and he says things like he's "worried people will think you're my daughter" and "I'm afraid to kiss you for fear of people thinking you're a child" "because you're short" I feel like maybe that could be a funny joke if worded properly but it was creepy to me, and of course all the parts of r*pe culture that result in the sexualization of youth and young women in general, and it can go the other way around too, there are plenty of female teachers that abuse male students and it's still viewed largely as a good thing for the student when it's not, abuse is abuse nomatter what.
im so glad my mind wasn’t the only one who went there when he said those lines - pretty sussy, maybe there are undertones of more m1nor predatory behavior? Idk perhaps just a misdirect or hinting that Bo’s character isn’t fully innocent in his thinking
Yea I thought he was sus. What was the purpose of the scene where the friend kept asking if he killed children though?
i feel like the whole thing with bos character was the audience being pulled into a false sense of security but he says so many things that just feel _off_, though i knew before going in that somehow he was going to be just as bad as the other men in the movie. tbh though aside from that i knew he wasnt to be trusted the moment he came back in and mentioned cassie giving him a wrong number, a clear sign she wasnt interested
I am only 22 min in and I'm really appreciating this commentary. Thank you. I'm feeling personally attacked and ashamed... causing me to question if/how I do this. Thanks.
i want to preface this by saying if someone has already made this point then i promise i’m not copying you, i just haven’t seen this analysis before! :) so something i couldn’t help but notice (which may be a stretch but a great thing about art is seeing what it means to you) was that there were five parts of cassie’s plan and that there are also five stages of grief? there’s some ways in which each stage correlates with the theme of her plan?
1 being denial and allison brie’s character denying her role as a woman turning a blind eye to SA in nina’s assault.
2 being anger and cassie’s frustration and anger towards the legal and social systems in place that allow cases like nina’s to be swept under the rug by academic institutions.
3 being bargaining. the definition of bargaining in terms of grief is “a stage in which you may try to negotiate with yourself or with a higher power to try to undo the loss” and you can see (even in a visual sense) that the lawyer is bargaining with cassie “as the higher power” as this seen as him begging and kneeling at her feet and her forgiving him for his sins in a Christ-like manner.
4 being depression of cassie being defeated and murdered in such a depressing way, especially because women all around the world unfortunately understood and could probably predict how the interaction from the get-go was going to end up, due to how women (and cassie) are forced to be aware of the realistic and real life situations/implications shown in this film. the whole fourth chapter has such a depressing and unsettling tone to it because we know these things to be far too common and not just a “dramatized scene for a fiction film”.
with finally 5 being acceptance where we the audience are forced to accept cassie’s fate, where the antagonists of the film all are forced to accept their fate, and the commentary the film has made as a whole accepting that as intelligent and promising as cassie’s plan was, the film has accepted that sadly, these are how these type of situations play out due to the world we live in. okay that was long, but i kept noticing this trend during this brilliant video essay and felt like sharing :)
I mean…if that’s not what they intended it definitely should have been. This is brilliant!!
@@annabethdiana5857 TY! :)
I was surprised you didn't touch upon the kind of glaring detail that the men's names in Cassie's black book are written in blue, black and red pen, and what that might indicate? It definitely does not seem like she's just switching pen colors at random, and might even indicate a more gruesome confrontations with some of the men.
I had that same question. After the scene with McLovin I started thinking maybe the red marks were people she killed, but it seems like that's probably not it.
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I never even noticed that but I’m thinking now that maybe the colors represent the American flag? And how the United States very often allow or turn a blind eye to any form of struggle received by women. But idk lol
@@infinityrocks7360 Both that and the colors in the screenshot are all trans colors... not saying trans flag has anything top do with this story though... except maybe it do lol
@@infinityrocks7360 Though trans flag colors ARE mimmicking the normal American flag colors... not worse than my neighbor for Police Stating Drab Colorizing it
I’m so surprised that you didn’t mention that Cassie uses the same manipulative, predatory behaviors to implement steps in her final plan.
Like during the meeting scene with Madison, Cassie plays the “man’s part”. She participates in the same manipulative behavior to get Madison to talk. She continually pours alcohol for her to drink while staying sober, the language she uses, and she even is dressed in traditionally masculine clothes vs Madison’s dress when you see them from torso down during both greetings.
She also lures the teen into her car so easily by looking friendly, talking like a teen, pretending to be familiar, and thus “kidnapping” the daughter (you did mention this).
And obvious the entire stripper nurse part of the plan she inverts roles like you mentioned.
I think this shows how, like you mentioned earlier, this isn’t necessarily a gendered problem (it’s not inherently men that’s the problem, it’s grape culture that men benefit from), but that these actions, though they seem to hold individual men accountable, it still doesn’t change the system or culture.
And then when she is murdered during the climax, it really turns this film into a horror film. Our vigilante hero is still the victim to the predators she seeks revenge on.
Exactly, the part when she's tying Al up she's saying things like "don't worry, you're safe, you have nothing to worry about, I'll take good care of you" etc it is really gripping
Looks as though you have missed a number of points.
I mean, it is inherently a male problem. Men commit so much rape that it is intrinsically linked to the culture, in which women are trying to survive and live their lives. It's easier to live if you believe in "just world thinking", it wouldn't happen to you of course because you're not like all those other women who get themselves raped. Women are part of the problem, but without men committing rape, there would be no problem.
It is males fault for doing this and setting this up for them and every woman sufferers for some sort do their abuse not males.
The painting is a madona with halo (u were right). It frames her as a martyr, and its brilliant foreshadowing.
The style of furniture embellishments framing her is reminiscent of "Queen Anne Style" furniture. There is a story of the blue pigment and the painting of Anny Bolyn... and the... rape of Anne Bolyn... and Henry the 8th... and tyranny giving way to democracy... holy shit...there's a whole rabbit just on blue-colored Queene Anne furniture embellishments... dammmit... dammit!! (Edit: words... and added "dammits" for after I started looking up "Queen Anne of Bolyeyn Rape" "Queen Anne of Bolyeyn Painting Blue Pigment" after recognizing the architectural style of the framing elements)
I'm really glad the algorithm fed me this video. I don't have the heart to watch the actual movie, these types of videos help me appreciate them from an arm's length away. Amazing video essay, looking forward to seeing the rest of your channel!
I wish they showed pictures if Nina and Cassie at the end. Felt like seeing them their friendship and happy times would've been good because Nina feels erased in the movie.
Yeah, you're spot on with that and I think that's what they intended, but it is absolutely brutal how she's treated in/by the movie in order to get the point across!
Brutal by the movie
and by the real society.
And even if you're not met with this brutality yourself or if you're not a girl/woman - just knowing what does happen and what the world is really like, is also brutal for an innocent kid. At least if you are able to feel empathy.
I just remembered this movie and was surprised I missed so much, thank you for your thorough analysis it was really interesting to hear a full breakdown
Thanks for watching!
I love your analysis, this one made me think I need to rewatch the movie and play close attention again to the language. Some of these things are so subtle that I think it gets missed if you're not looking for it. Also, happy to hear you'll be putting out more regular content! Looking forward to the next video!
Good to see you back Fire-breathing Momma! Thank you so much and yeah it really does encourage listening closely because it's all just so finely tuned towards manipulation and double meaning. Thanks so much for watching and continuing to support my stuff, it means a lot!
Cassie took on Nina’s whole essence, to the point of it almost totally erasing herself. The scene of her speaking with Nina’s mother is so telling, because it shows Nina as the one who was so curt and brash. Cassie wasn’t. It’s why that pastel pink, hyper girly aesthetic that Cassie wears and has around her (that even confuses Madison) is so odd to us at first.
You don’t realize she is getting the revenge AS Nina. Cassie is taking on the nature that Al erased from her best friend with his assault.
The moments we see the real Cassie are so telling. When she forgives Jordan, when she is sorry to Madison for not letting her know nothing happened in the hotel-when she’s talking about Nina to Al.
This movie is so powerful. I’m glad when it makes people uncomfortable because you are SUPPOSED to feel that way. This isn’t a topic that you are supposed to be numb to. No one should talk about the topic of SA / r*pe casually. The Dean acts as if it’s just another day when a complaint comes in.
And this movie shows you exactly how ugly it is, and how it ruins more than just one person. Cassie’s dad saying he missed her… he hadn’t seen his own daughter in seven years. God, and her parents then lose her completely to murder after seeing a glimmer of hope in her looking happy with Ryan.
Thank you so much for doing this video essay. The amount of females talking about it is amazing but I am so happy to hear a man talk about this. You are opening up a whole dialogue to young men to take these topics in and learn.
Definitely a movie I am always a fan of but it is not an easy watch when you remember how it ends for our main character. So glad they changed the ending to give us a more satisfying experience.
Another important part about Ryan:
Cassie didn't know if the police when interview him, so while that is Ryan's last opportunity for redemption from Ryan's perspective, Cassie wasn't aware he would have that moment and left everything up to the lawyer.
HOWEVER, the texts at the end show that Cassie knew that even after being shown the video footage of the assault, Ryan was still going to attend the wedding of the assailant. In her mind, she already knew his behavior wouldn't change - he would continue to enable.
I’m at a loss for words at how good this video was. There’s so much I wanna say but I can’t begin to spell it all out, so I’ll just settle for: I absolutely love your videos.
Extremely enthralled by your analysis. I wanted to put this on in the background while I was completing assignments but this video was so interesting and well done it captivated me just like the movie did. I have a new love for this movie that I didn’t realize could be achieved because of this breakdown. Thank you!
First off, love the way you approached this and the in-depth analysis. I found the casting choice for Cassie's parents to be very interesting since her mother is most well known as "Stiffler's Mom" from American Pie (an older woman who has sex with an 18yr old male and it's portrayed as positive as most older female/younger male assault is portrayed) and The Kurgan from Highlander. Clancy Brown may be in parental/guardian roles these days, but The Kurgan was the epitome of a masculine-rapist monstrosity who destroys things specifically because they are held sacred or important by others. It may be just me and the age at which I watched Highlander, but seeing him in any role is still inherently uncomfortable. The two of them are rather perfect as symbolic of the older generation who at the very least expect and tacitly condone predation. Again, loved the way you handled this analysis and the level of detail.
Im late to this video but i think this comment is so insightful! Connie britton as the dean is great casting too, she is probably most famous for the understanding guidance counselor/nurturing mother character she played on Friday Night Lights, so the refusal of the dean to be an ally to her female students is especially ironic. I picked up the subversion of type casting in romcom leads like adam brody and quirky best friend max greenfield, but i didnt appreciate the references for cassie's parents as well.
phenomenal analysis. I haven't even seen the film yet but this was well worth the watch.
Thanks so much Brandon, definitely give the movie a watch when you get a chance it’s a lot of fun!
Been listening through a bunch of your videos and loving your insights.
I also really appreciate how your voice is at the fore, making it really easy to concentrate and focus on what you're saying, too many channels have loud background noise/music.
Since you've asked for suggestions I really love the Fargo franchise so if it's something you also enjoy it'd be great to hear your thoughts on it.
Thanks a lot for all the content and I'm looking forward to anything you will release in the future.
Dude I really needed this this morning, got several emails from UA-cam age restricting my content so I'm extremely grateful for the kind words.
I absolutely love Fargo, the original obviously but I think the height of it for me is the premiere/pilot of the first season with Martin Freeman's gradual breakdown. And Billy Bob in that whole series is just so fun to watch so I think there's a safe bet I'll do something on that in the future.
Thanks so much for watching dude and for taking the time to comment.
Nuanced and thought provoking analysis- love it! Also, not sure if you covered this but “Cassandra” was significant in Greek myth as ‘she who entangles men’ and was doomed not to be believed. Cassandra saw what others wouldn’t/couldnt.
Have you seriously implied that she was planning to murder the lawyer and Nina's rapist? (I might misunderstood because of my poor english) It would have been so out of character considering what she did with her other "victims". I had an impression that she only wanted to carve Nina's name on her rapist (like in the girl with the dragon tattoo)
Anyway thank you for this analysis
@GhostOfCarlJung I would get it if Cassie intended to kill him, but I think she knew that he would try to kill her, and prepared herself to kill him if necessary. In the end she didn’t win, but I think she wanted him to live with the shame of what he did just like Nina had to live with the “shame” others put on her for what he did. Just like she made everyone else remember how they aided in his getting away with it.
What was she trying to do to the guy though?
@@avanewyorkcity to carve Nina’s name all over his body. This way, he has to live with the shame of his actions on his body (much like the bodily harm he inflicted on Nina), and everyone will have to remember who Nina was.
It is not made explicit that Cassie intends to kill Al, but I think it is hinted. I think the other people she plans revenge towards either were women complicit in Nina’s attack, or they were men who intended to assault her, but were stopped beforehand. The man outside the lawyer’s home may have been a hitman, or he could’ve just been meant to intimidate Jordan. But Emerald Fennell has explicitly stated the reason she chose the ending was because Cassie chose violence, and she didn’t think that choice could produce any other outcome. I personally really liked the ending because even though we understand why Cassie is seeking revenge, she’s ultimately perpetuating harm instead of dealing with her trauma in a healthy way. After the realization about Ryan, I definitely believed she was capable of killing Al, even if that wasn’t her original goal.
Loving your details about sets and cinematography in addition to the plots 😊
I love behind the scenes stuff but it's usually difficult to find a reason to include it, luckily here it tied into the dollhouses directly! Thanks for watching!
The movie was realistic, but i spent the all movie expecting that she overpower those guys. In the beginning i kinda wanted that she was an actual serial killer. I totally undertsand that would miss the point of the intire movie, but my necessity to see female rage on screen was bigger.
Would have been better.
Better than being killed and made another victim by the movie at the end.
Excellent explanation! I hope more ppl like you use your platform to open more eyes like this. It's so important to make today's society aware.🙌🙌🙌🙌 Also sidenote, I'm incredibly grateful my brothers taught me how to defend myself physically. I hope more guys are like that with their younger sisters.
I was also really excited to see what Emerald Fennell would do next. And then we got The Idol...
My favorite line was the passing reference to Alex being an anesthesiologist.
I think it's also really clever that (for most of the movie) we're meant to think Cassie kills men and and that Ryan is genuinely a good guy, so despite the clear message of the movie and the evidence right in front of our faces, we see Cassie as the predator and Ryan as the unwitting (potential) victim
Rarely have I have ever felt more seen. Thank you.
Thank you for watching, not many have!
This should have way more views. Really well done.
Amazing production, analysis and video! Can’t believe this does not have more views. New suscriber for sure:)
I actually think the guy playing Al is cast because he has played good guys in the past, someone pointed out that most of the men in the film have played good guys in the past. Joe and Al are both played by actors who played good guys on Veronica Mars where the longest arc is Veronica trying to find out who raped her before the events of the season. I think casting these men that were the good guys, not "nice guys" is to say something about the danger of men even if you don't think of them as bad guys. Adam Brody also played good guys on TV around the same time. It's basically the men millennial women grew up watching in roles where they were kind considerate and non threatening.
Plus they cast Alfred Molina and Clancy Brown, two men who famously play villains or at least threatening characters, as the least threatening men in the film
This is so good, such a great analysis. I have no other words.
this movie was amazing. thankyou for making this video bc I wouldn't have found the movie. I'm not going to lie, I thought Cassie was gonna get up after Al strangled her. I thought it was a ruse and she set him up. But then the morning came. I was so sad! The fact that it was so easy to get rid of her for his friend made me feel like he did this before... I knew our girl had a plan though! She got the justice for Nina and herself. I will definitely be re-watching the movie. And I've been binging your videos for the past day, so I can't wait to see what I discover next!
I loved this film. It's was one of my favorites. I saw it on streaming when it came out and already saw it at least 4 times.
My partner and I watched "Promising Young Woman" and "Saltburn" last night and loved both of them. I've been skipping over this video in your output for ages as I hadn't seen the film yet and did not want to watch a comprehensive breakdown until I actually had a chance to see it. Personally, I had a very slight preference to the almost nihilistic cruelty of "Saltburn"-- a movie I can absolutely understand people having divisive opinions about-- but that preference is on par with liking a really great pizza slightly more than another really great pizza. "Promising Young Woman" is a lot more "on the nose" with it's divisiveness as it's pretty obvious the only reason to get bent out of shape about it is inherently related to insecure masculinity.
As usual, a fantastic breakdown and another hook keeping me checking the page on the daily for the Midsommar/Wicker Man breakdown... no rush though... I can always re-watch the Hereditary video (a rare case of youtube content being about as excellent as the source material) for the 5th time. An activity that registers as "concerning" by friends.
Started this but it hit too close to home, probably the same for a lot of people out there esp females. It's late so I'll try again another time so I don't have nightmares of the guys this reminds me of
Yeah, I imagine this, and more importantly the movie, is a very difficult watch for a lot of people and I understand completely. I'm so sorry to hear that Tirzah, I hope you've had better experiences recently and moreover I hope we're moving towards somewhere where experiences like them will finally cease. I doubt it though :( Please don't feel obliged to try and watch this, I'm very grateful for your support already and the last thing I want is to compound any painful memories. Best wishes to you.
I just finished your Hereditary review and now looking forward to this one. Really enjoying your detailed analyses on a variety of films 🙌🏾🙌🏾 You just got a new subscriber. Looking forward to watching more!
brilliant work as always, keep it up man!
Cheers dude!
The Neon Demon would be such an interesting video from you! You are phenomenal. Thank you so much.
I loved your video and your insights on this amazing movie! Your comments are deep, thoughtful and clear. I watched this movie when it came out and many reviews afterwards which I found (most of them) superficial and simplistic. During the movie I laughed so much remembering a lot of those "friends/classmates/colleagues/teammates/bosses" making similar moves in countless occasions; lots of "nice guys" all of them genuinely believing they're not doing anything wrong because their friends, teachers, parents, supervisors and even the police, enable their behavior and prioritize their future, reputation and life over those of the women they abuse. Al mentioned "It's a guy's worst nightmare" and Cassie asking if he knows what's a girl's worst nightmare, they have no idea and that's why this movie and analysis like yours are so valuable. I'm happy I found your channel (even if late), I'll stay around to watch more of your videos.
Wow, so well discussed especially as a man. Appreciate you for this. This is one of my favorite movies.
The image at 54:55 is less, I think, a copy of a particular portrait and more a generality. It looks like a nimbus or aureole (though they're typically golden or white), which symbolize glory, holiness, and/or martyrdom. I'd say this particular case is the latter, and they posed her so as to capture the vibe of it.
The construction workers getting sweet karma was *juicy.*
It soothed my inner child, who was getting cat-called by grown men as young as ELEVEN.
i’m so happy the comments are smart and not filled with ape-like misogynists 🥰 fantastic movie and amazing analysis.
This is so well done, hope it gets more attention
Thank you so much! I think it suffers a little bit from bad production quality but thankfully that's improved in my newer vids!
You missed all the angel imagery. Re-watch it and look for the wings behind her.
FANTASTIC VIDEO ❤ subbed and shared it with my fellow gf’s who also adore this movie like I do. The whole forgiveness if true accountability and regret is shown is something that doesn’t usually happen in movies (for action scenes to happen I’m sure) or if they do forgive, they usually pay for it later. The closing scene of them all publicly called out during the wedding is exactly what they did to themselves by always denying their own actions. It’s a perfect example of modern tragedy yet the true tragedy is how often this happens in our world. Most of my friends and I have been SA in one way or another…some small and easily acceptable in society and others of downright R with even partner’s being the source of it. I did have to watch something overly cheerful and cheesy after watching this movie since it was bringing back way too many college memories.
I know you just put out a long and in-depth video on Midsommar (AMAZING video btw), I'm dying for a breakdown on Saltburn!
25:25 Now see I thought tittle’s subversion comes in regarding how men accused of SA need their character defended, bc they excel at sports, academics and so forth. As if their supposed successful futures are more important than the disgusting actions they are being accused of.
Thank you Novum you are awesome! ❤
Not a fan of jock bros and don’t usually go where they are but super tall Chad was at the place i go dancing with my friends and tonight i had to hand out flyers for our next Wednesdays goth dance party.
Btw I’m gen x but i dress and act young so even though I’m 52 people think I’m 35 and i think Chad thought i was his age but I’m probs 20 years older.
Chad kept trying to touch me. “Dance but don’t touch”. I said . He held my hand and kissed it to show he was a gentleman. I was like “eyeroll” he’s still touching me and i said no but your trying to be a gentleman even though . Still no.
He then let go of my hand, ran it through his hair like a 5 th grader protraying 50’s cartoon Greaser and held it up really high , challenging me to do a high 5.
Clever Chad tactic to challenge girls to touch him instead and usually fail because they usually can’t reach.
Also, way to turn the tables Chad.
I’m 6ft tall in shoes so i hit the bottom of his hand.
“You didn’t make it” He said.
“Yes i did Bitch.” I said. “That didn’t count” he said.
And this allegory reminds me of my life in the Patriarchy. I accomplished enough in my male dominated career to be listed in multiple Wikipedia and celebrity google searches but because my accomplishments go ignored by the brodeo I’m still struggling while they got all the breaks.
All i want to do is dance. And of course Jock Douche has to turn it into drama. They always get so emotional like little brat babies.
Anyways Chad didn’t like me having normal human boundaries so he did this aggressive dance bullshit and kept trying to touch me.
It was super hot out and i was getting a hot flash and also don’t like jock bros anyways so i kept being like , “please don’t touch me!”
Why cant you just act normal and dance like 2 feet away without touching people you don’t know?
Then like those douche jock bros always do, when you say no they get all aggressive.
He starting flipping me on off and causing drama “Fuck you then! I hate you!”
White jock douche bros always flip like a switch and become instantly angry and aggressive when they don’t get everything their way , because they live a life in a white man Patriarchy, built to benefit them nothing in life punishes them with consequences for acting like a little bitch baby.
The world I’m trying to build with my life’s work is an entire different reality for all the magic beings suffering constantly in the Patriarchy trying to survive within a system that doesn’t benefit us.
While working double time to have a PHD in DIY and create our own reality, because the corporate funding of the Patriarchy is resistant to fund a message that goes against them.
Well… unless that intellectual property is worth millions. Then, like the whores they are, Corporate Capitalism will approve it and fund it. But only for the money.
The Goddess protects and guides me.
I live to serve her and embody her and she will prevail because under the streets and the laws built by man is the law of Mother Nature and that’s the true reality.
So the Halo maybe a reference to prophets, and Cassie is short for Cassandra who was a prophet from ancient Greece who foresaw terrible disasters but wasn’t believed. She may also be considered a martyr
This is such a thoughtful and well constructed video. Even this comments are interesting and informative.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it - I'm very proud of my comments section it's honestly super constructive/wholesome across pretty much all my vids. Thanks for watching!
I cannot WAIT for your take on the barbie movie 💖💖💖
I'm excited to see it!
Hey Novum, I love your content and think the analysis is brilliant. Have you ever considered going with more typical video essay style names for your videos? The 'everything explained' or ultimate guide format may make potential viewers think your video is more recap style content ( like a lot of other UA-camrs who make such videos) and not click for that reason. It didn't stop me lol, but this is a thought I had whilst viewing
The style of furniture embellishments framing her is reminiscent of "Queen Anne Style" furniture. There is a story of the blue pigment and the painting of Anne Bolyn... and the... rape of Anne Bolyn... and Henry the 8th... and tyranny giving way to democracy... holy shit...there's a whole rabbit just on blue-colored Queene Anne furniture embellishments... dammmit... dammit!! (Edit: words... and added "dammits" for after I started looking up "Queen Anne of Bolyeyn Rape" "Queen Anne of Bolyeyn Painting Blue Pigment" after recognizing the architectural style of the framing elements)
I need to sleep godammit lol
Leusteria/ Lysistrata
This is an amazing movie with smart casting of characters for the story.
I hope your thorough approach is rewarded with many viewers, but I am not optimistic of that prospect.
Yeah, me neither to tell you the truth dude! Thanks for the kind words nonetheless!
@@Novum_YT thank YOU for such a thorough examination of the film.
This movie is fucking bittersweet.
If you're not a survivor, I understand there's an element missing in order to fully comprehend what occurs when someone violates you. Sticks and stones, blah blah blah, but emotional trauma scars forever. When another literally violently steals a piece of your soul, it's the rage over that loss that the victim now has to contend with. The brain can't handle such a terror. And bloody, violent, unhinged revenge is something that you want. How does any one person deal with that? Rage has no affiliates. No gender or race or anything else. But society forever has told the women that "women aren't violent." And all of time proves that to be untrue. So now what? 🖤
Carey Mulligan was ROBBED of an Oscar for this movie. I love Francis McDormand but Carrie DESERVED it 100%
Hotel restaurant visuals are super impactful. Madison wearing figure-hugging white dress with beige purse = her recently adopted (pretense of) virginal “good girl” (who just bore twins and got back to girlish figure tout de suite! and ditched her medical profession to become the accepted unchallenging vessel of all-accepting - of male dominance- femininity (similar to Al Monroe’s suddenly adopted pre-marital “moral compass” attributed to his bride, a vapid bikini model😂) is contrasted with Cassie (aiming to end a seriously tragic social injustice) wearing black PANTS and white gender-neutral/non-slim-fitting shirt and professional hairstyle=reality of non -denied love and utter heartbreak for our loved ones who have been senselessly destroyed. PS: Here’s a challenge: Nina is the Christ figure -hope you have fun figuring it out🤍
Something that still infuriates me is how a bunch of online neckbeard/PUA/Andrew Tate fans complained that Carey Mulligan wasn't 'hot' enough to pull off this role, and it should've been Margot Robbie. Like ... (a) what are you talking about, she's objectively very pretty, as IF any of these incels would say no to Carey; (b) it's not only the Margot Robbies of the world who get SA'd; (c) these are probably the same trolls who have recently been commenting about how 'mid' Margot is. Just ew.
Amazing analysis of one of my favourite films, great work!!
Love your work thank you so much for doing it!!
The cuasi square that frame Cassie in the movie is associated to a Saint in life or a persone who is going to be saint. This is in the bizantine Catholic culture... So when I saw that square I remenbered I thought... Hooo crap... She is dead... She is not going to survive the movie...😢
I thought, because it is a Queene Anne style decoration, that it was "framing" Cassie as the classic, murdered, Femme Fatale: Queen Anne of Boleyn and that's why it was foreshadowing Cassie's death. Interesting we got the same reading from a completely different interpretation! lol
Just discovered your channel, it's ace. Nice work!
Really enjoyed this video, thanks for making it. I feel like i missed a lot of the movie's more subtle points. Might be worth a rewatch :)
Your work is amazing! Still waiting for wonder woman part two!
Thank you so much! It's coming, I've got a looong list of videos I'm working through but I'll get to them all eventually!
Great video. All of the decor of Cassie’s parents’ home is uber-old-school feminine bordello-like (all sofa’s have a two-breast silhouette, other pieces are sexual and/or predatory or orgasmic) and the outdoor (intentionally) decor of Nina’s mom’s home is fairy-tale cottage-like (denying of anything serious/painful similar to Nina’s mom’s denial of needing to address grievable sexual violence against “promising” women).
Have you ever thought about doing Buffy? The weight of the world is a really good episode to analyse. Season 5
Bravo! Excellent analysis!! 👏👏👏
Thank you so much!
I love how the reviewer says at the end “this movie is beautiful, it’s ugly,…”. The review is spot on. The movie made me so uneasy with every potential rape scene but just when the scene is about to push past unease into complete disgust Cassie takes control. Movies like this always make me reanalyze how I speak to my teen daughters. I LOATHE the phrase “boys will be boys”. It’s such a fine line between making sure my daughters understand that this predatory behavior exists without trying to put all the responsibility on them. A woman should not have to ever question her safety yet not allowing herself to be in a position to question her safety is also important. On the other side of the coin I’m also teaching my son to be accountable for his actions and to respect everyone until they prove they are unworthy of respect (like the men in this movie). This is a powerful movie and still relevant today.
This is done exceptionally well.
This channel rocks my world 💯
Thank you so much!
only two minutes in but i see the hopeful intention behind the movie flew completely over your head with the statement "this movie is about a woman obsessed with toxic male behavior" actually it's about a woman whose life has been destroyed by the suicide of her best friend who was raped in college. i think you should understand the material before making a video commentating on it ...
For the painting reference at 55:00, I believe it's a reference to the "immaculate Heart" Virgin Mary paintings specifically the one with a blue background with a halo behind her head.
Try as I might I can't find out who painted it, but it's the second picture on the Immaculate Heart of Mary Wikipedia.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Heart_of_Mary
That's my best guess.
I think it’s interesting how Cassie frequently is in Christ-like positions but also is depicted with Mary iconography, both the sacrifice and the care-giver, a ‘lamb’ and a Madonna… just a thought lol
It's also referencing Queen Anne of Boleyn: a classic Femme Fatale that meets an unfortunate end. The decoration is reminiscent of Queene Anne style furniture flair
I almost wonder if the movie would have been even better if it had turned out that Cassie was aware of Ryan's involvement the whole time
I know this is a couple years or so later so unsure you'll see this but when you ask at 55:03 what that may be representing, my first thought was Mother Mary, as she usually is adorned in many paintings with that babyish blue, and sometimes pink roses, but it made me look up for more specific photo I just googled saint blue pink and lo and behold I found a mosaic of Saint Agatha of Sicily, who has blue halo & pink happens to be a patron saint of rape victims! I wish I could post here but going to see if I can message you it. Thank you for pointing out these things I love finding all of the extra symbolism especially as it affects our subconscious I believe and love learning
alright, I rewatched the movie now im ready to take this in
Incredible review. Thank you for sharing your thoughts
I'm sorry, but do u remember any sources you used while producing this? I might want to do some research myself on this topic and would love to get some first hand insight. Mostly because I will write my seminar paper on this movie, which will have to be approximately 10 pages long. Sources will then be a necessity, which is why I'm asking. Thank you for this video though, it gave me a lot to think about
Hi Nina, thanks for watching and thanks for including me in your studies. If I did use sources in this video they will be mentioned/clearly visible on screen. But I think in this instance this is almost entirely my reading of the movie, there really isn't too much out there in terms of secondary sources.
That being said most universities are perfectly accepting of Youtbe sources and everything I say here is backed up by evidence drawn straight from the film. So you could either reference the video or just use the same evidence/logic I've used to construct your own argument! I frequently sourced UA-cam videos (and many other far more sus websites) during my BA and my Masters degree. What's important is the quality of the source, not where you're sourcing it from (except in instances like wikipedia where the public can freely edit). Your faculty should have a list of acceptable sources and how best to reference them.
In terms of your essay if you're worried about having a large wordcount to fill my advice on that is twofold:
1. Consider a comparitive essay. This would pair really well with something like 'She Said' also staring Carey Mulligan. Much easier to write more, you can talk about key similarities and differences etc.
2. Pick a topic that seems targeted but is quite broad. For example if we say 'Promising Young Woman as an example of revenge movies' then you can essentially talk about the entirety of the movie (and a whole genre of film) while seemingly directing it all to the same point. Another good one would be looking at it as a protest movie that's metaphorical for a groundswell of female anger in the post me-too era.
Hope that helps, sorry I don't have a source list I can just send you, I do on a lot of my other videos but it just wasn't an option here! Good luck with the essay!
Awesome. I’d love to hear your perspective on Cat Person
Great video!
Thanks Mikel!
Any thoughts re Cassie’s name…? A link to Cassandra of mythology, or I also took it to be a riff on ‘castrate’ Sheesh!
Her outfits and the color-scheme at times (the blue/pink) calls out (not only stereotypic male/female coloring by society) possibly Alice in Wonderland or Dorothy from Wizard of Oz - these great fanciful tales that may appear benign, magical and fun, but ultimately have much danger as well, with a friend here or there on the journey but not many and it’s a difficult ‘road.’ Also the candy-coloring portrays a ‘consumable item’ - something we can chew on, eat, we want to consume it.
I enjoyed your piece on ‘Alien’ - fantastic!
Chew and chew and chew lol
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so much revelation in this :)
You share relevant insight. How rare.
This is THE breakdown of this movie.