20:13 when she’s having that dream she tells him “I love you.. I was trying to save you” my interpretation is that DEEP down, Annie knew that her kids had a terrible fate in store for them. So her attempt at miscarriage, and her paint thinner incident was her subconscious trying to prevent the inevitable doom her kids were going to suffer.
@@elizabethnelson673 honestly the imagery in that scene is incredibly well done. Notice the ants are on Peter’s face the same way they were on Charlie’s after the accident. I feel like the ants are a visible representation of the demon Paimon. So the ants on Peter’s face was foreshadowing which basically meant that Peter was the next desired host of Paimon.
Ya know I was thinkin, as far as this movie goes , it’s the worst tragedy ever that Annie DIDNT drop that match and kill herself and 2 children. I’d think sleep walking she wouldn’t be held responsible by God and would have avoiddd all of the help of this movie but worst of all, because she woke up and blew the match out, in movie land we saw that the grandmas promise and offering to the pagan god king Paemon that is actually a demon so this cult leader witch asks Paemon the king of riches and knowledge to give her her remaining life of riches and knowledge and bind alls will to hers and in trade for that, the promised this demon herself her daughter and granddaughters souls for eternity in hell at this demons aids where they will spend eternity as Paimon as 3 female heads and souls forget thst it Carrie’s my their hair wherever it goes and then gives her grandsons body to the demon to possess. what an unbelievably horrific ending in movie land where Annie gets possessed by Paimon and cuts her head off, the cult cuts the mother off and Paimon possesssing Charlie get her head taken off, those are the 3 souls and heads that this demon will carry for eternity by ther hair and peters body is now possessed by the 8th king of hell., so technically , the antichrist is on earth and has a body and a cult Tia tart growing and Annie’ and Charlie’s good souls got bargained to become a demons posssion for eternity in hell , they had no choice , agency and spend misery in hell forever. Seeing Annie’s body floating cutting her head off and then floating up to the treehouse and bowing tot he Paimon stick figure that has Charlie’s head which is very very symbolic poor Charlie and Annie . I think the miscarriage efforts and wishes was both trauma related and out of a love for a son she hasn’t seen trying desperately consciously and subconsciously to miscarry becasue she spent her first 22 years of life in the most tragic family situation where her dad starved himself to death and had mental issues, and then 22 years of seeing her mom destroy her son becaue the offer she made with king Paimon was her sons healthy body and according to pagan belief for a king of hell to take possession of a body it must be male , the males soul hd to be completely destroyed , broken, torn down, strip all faith hope and love away fill his life with tragedy and hardship and eventually his soul will be literally on the verge of death allowing the demon to take possession so even if Annie didn’t know her mom was in a pagan cult or about any of this till the end of movie , she still saw 22 years of her brother being destroyed and his mental struggles , Al thst like her seemed to be stemmed from the grandma hereditarily. The beother probably saw stuff like we did in the move and fully believed it and took his own life to end the suck or maybe to not be possessed by a demon king. . Annie said her relationship with her mom never existed and was never good but actually horrible, she said she was never ever close to good enough for her mom always a failure which was her mom breaking her down over life then once her brother kills himself she marries and grandma must have a son pressuring her to have one clearly for her so Annie actually tries to not get pregnant But as we learned, when the grammas son killer himself , thst male body promised to king Paimon was dead and the male body has to be of her blood so the witch had to produce a blood grandson for the demon king and Paimon wants a male body to possess so the demon king, grandma witch cult leader and the cult must have committed disturbing sacrifices in hope she gets pregnant and it’s a boy. So Annie that can not let her mom do to a son of hers what she did to get brother is careful but ends up pregnant and with a boy so Annie does very thing she can to miscarry but nothing worked and Peter was completely healthy which is impossible if she was contact to trying everything to miscarry so the movie implies it wasn’t a choice she had, and nothing was going to take the demon kings male body away . I have 2 female friends that were horrible abused their entire childhoods . So much so that both had their tubes tied at 18 and the other at 20 years old so they can never bring children into this world. I love them both but they have suffered serious emotional and mental struggles thst they are so damaged emotionally thst both were SO terrified to have a baby one day and have that baby experince what they did for 18 years thst that decision pernmantly take the ability to have children away at 18 and 20 wasn’t jsut the only choice , in their minds they couldn’t chance it. Still breaks my heart thst tk this day they struggle so much, they destroy every relationship intentionally to avoid the possibility of that man actually being a horrible human bieng.. they’ve deprived themselves of children and marriage . So sad to see that they aren’t capable of seeing that wanting to protect future offspring so badly from the horrors they experienced , they’d eliminate thst possibility befor chancing having their baby go through thst pain. So damn sad they couldn’t see that jsut the thought of what they did showed they could never hurt their own Child and would protect them fron thst pain at all costs. Both would have been amazing moms and logging a child in a way you weren’t loved is actually very healing. Anyway so Annie not wanting to have a baby that would experince what she did and her brother did I think was 100% the drive behind those choices
When his mom said "That fucking face on your face" and then he saw his reflection in the classroom and you realize that's the face his mom sees on him and why she said that is crazy! Toni Collette is amazing! She should have won an Oscar
I really don't think thats the implication in that scene. She's definitely referring to how he is playing dumb and clueless asking his grieving mother if she has something to say.
@@mcgfn I think it's an amazing line even out of context, because it injects this brief note of comic hysteria that makes it feel even more unpredictable and real. She does specifically say he's always sneering at her though, which we never see evidence of except in the reflection. But even if that's not the implication, in a movie full of beheadings and possessions, it's especially fun and sly to have this seemingly random, improvised-feeling rant talking about faces on faces, it certainly keeps within the repeated motifs of the movie. I think I would say she said it without herself knowing the implication though - she's just reacting to a sneer, not a demon. But we can see sly extra meanings with hindsight.
Jesus, Toni must have screamed her throat raw in the bit where Annie finds Charlie’s corpse. I hope she had some water after that. That being said, easily one of the most chilling things Ive ever heard in a movie.
So did we catch in the support group scene, the mother said her brother committed suicide and wrote a letter blaming their mother and said she was trying to put people inside him. During the scene with what you knew, that's just crazy talk. But knowing what you know at the end you realize he was the intended target for Paemon. He died. If I remember correctly there is mention of grandma taking care of and maybe even breast feeding Charlie. Also mention that maybe mother separated from grandma for a while, putting the son out of reach. I'm not exactly sure bout this. So grandma and cult had no choice but to put Paemon temporarily in Charlie. And come to when the movie starts the son is now there and they enact their plan to correct and put Paemon in the son.
Christmas came early! Hereditary is an absolute masterpiece! How Toni Collette didn't get nominated for an Oscar for her performance still baffles me. Well, not really, horror has always been looked down upon by the mainstream. But you can clearly see, horror comes in many forms, and what Ari Aster does with Hereditary is give us real situations, grief, generational trauma, and mixes fictional horror with the realistic horror. It's truly a work of art. Definitely the kind of movie that sticks with you and creates interesting discussion long after viewing. Thank you for watching it.
First time I saw this, I said to myself "Fuck you, Ari Aster! Never again!". And, wouldn't you know, next thing was me, glued in my couch, watching Midsommar!
@@stathissdz2125 yes and I love Florence Pugh in everything she does especially little women
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I can't tell you how effective the "wakes up in the middle of the night" scene was in theatres. The lighting was so perfect in that setting that every time I saw it (three times in the theatre) only a portion of the audience noticed it. While they were gasping and screaming, others were trying to figure out what the hell they were reacting to.
Apparently some of the people at the party and the other driver on the road the night of the accident orchestrated this, both intentionally making something to set off Charlie’s allergy, and getting Peter to veer off the road into the telephone pole. It was all to take out Charlie, and break Peter’s spirit, slowly drive him insane, and to the point of ending his life, just for Paimon to take over…just the same as Annie’s late brother, having taken his own life too.
Unfortunately, most don't like how Peter acted because they don't understand his performance which was actually amazing as you said. I will put a spoiler warning for anyone who reads the comments before seeing your reaction/ before seeing the actual movie itself as well. (I'm that person that hates spoilers both getting and giving them XD) Spoiler Warning: This movie literally made him (Alex Wolff) have to get therapy it scarred him so much and he wanted to make it as realistic as possible by doing things for real; like actually slamming his face on the desk for the classroom scene. For scenes like the part when she was banging her head and he was crying for his mommy, he based it off of military members who cry for their family members when they are afraid for their lives. Most people unfortunately think his performance is "too over the top" it is rather annoying for instance there were people in my theater that actually laughed at certain scenes like the classroom freak out. It's a shame, but I appreciate it when people do understand his choices as you all did, so thank you for that
@@PunishersZeroX I've unfortunately seen A LOT of people comment saying they hated his performance in this. "It seemed forced, exaggerated, and unbelievable." And I've seen people literally say that they laughed during his scenes. Not in this specific comment section which is good. But in other comment sections/ reviews, it's annoying to see. I can't remember who specifically, but I've seen reactions where they've laughed at his classroom freakout scene as well. And as I said in my own movie theater there was someone who laughed at it there too.
This movie was super interesting from the horrible family tragedy aspect, it takes an unfliching look at how something like that would brutally impact a family, but when all the supernatural demonic stuff started to come in I lost some of the interest
@@felipeaguena5289 yeah I get what you’re saying but the performances we’re straight up flawless but the supernatural aspect made it really work in my opinion.
Omg I know! He would still be alive if he never married her 😭😭😭 I never heard of that Christmas movie.. I'm definitely going to recommend that to Emma and Elizabeth so maybe we can do two like Krampus and then that one! Thank you for the request! ❤️
I wonder if him being a Paychiatrist gave him confidence he could get her thru the trauma she suffered in her childhood and obviously didn’t know thst her mom was a literal pagan cult leader who made a very big agreement with the 8th king of hell. Lol
One of the best movies I've ever seen. It is the literal ESSENCE of a nightmare. Every time I watch this movie, especially the paint thinner nightmare she has, I just feel complete doom.
I feel good saying this movie was the scariest movie I’ve seen since the Exorcist and Rosemary’s baby . Both movies have a good story and Oscar worthy acting. This movie deserves an Oscar !!!
Have you seen “Annabelle : Creation “? The second Annabelle movie? I had no desire to see it until I heard James wan was doing it and then rotten tomatoes gave it the first 100% rating for any horror movie , it’s the only 100% rated horror so I had to see it and it’s tied for me with hereditary as my 2 favorite horrors .
Some crazy fun facts: there are 8 different outdoor scenes where at least one or more naked cult memebrs can be seen outside the house in the forest . The grief group are all cult followers look at them closely and you’ll see most of them either in the house naked in diiferent scenes, outside, in the attic of treehouse. Peters friend he’s smoking pot with under the bleacher with the man bun ponytail is in the group (not sure if his other friend is also a cult member but experiences Charlie’s pain and death as he smokes likely aided by the cult member friend. Notice the pamphlet the day of grandmas funeral for the “grief group” is pushed in the mail slot in the door . The mail was already there so it was hand delivered out in BFE to their remote house for Annie to get to get her to the cults gathering to orchestrate the comming events with the new cult leader befriending her. But actually as you see when Annie’s pounding in her door she’s been workin some evil spells with Charlie’s animal head figurines , pictures of Peter with his eyes cut out meaning his soul is gone. Paimon can be seen spelled out earlier in Annie’s apartment. Annie says the chalkboard was her grandsons favorite item she used to conjur him. But when Annie sees Joan in the store parking lot Joan was placing store bags in the back of her car, when Annie gets close to her you can see that chalkboard is in the nee store bag, she jsut purchased it , likely never was a grandson becasue she mentions once she lost her grandsonS to a fire but then later says her grandson (singular) drown. The pagan comment or also said the words Joan spoke and told Annie she had to say perfectly is actual ancient pagan words that are suppose to invite a specific demon god into that moment . At Annie’s Paimon seems to pull Annie’s hair to the side of brush it to the side , remember pagans believe Paimon always Carie’s the heads of the 3 female sacrifices by the Hair and Annie was already promised to Paimon. The flare up of fire and candles is said to be fire is easy for pagan gods and also satanic demons to manipulate to scare the intended targets more . Annie speaks the words inviting Paimon into the home and into her body specifically , you hear Paimons scarry kind of grown evil sound first , then trixter god uses Charlie like voice to get the family to think it’s jsut charlie but I read another explanation that said both Paimon and Charlie’s soul now bound to Paimon and stuck at its side we’re in Annie’s body together which is why charlie sounds terrified , panicked and yelling for her mom, also said her voice is noticeable normal , it’s not the odd toned and spaced words of possessed charlie saying it was her pure soul Paimon brought into Annie’s body to convince dad and Peter but scared the crap out of them . The bursting of candle flames in a ritual is believed to be the arrival of a demon or king of hell. Exploding glasses , jsut paimons tricks , why would Charlie’s soul blast flames and break vases.? When the hands grab Peters head and he thinks it’s his mom, notice the arms grabbing his head, Peter is flat on his back centered on the bed as it clearly shows. The head of his bed is agaisnt the wall directly below the window thst looks at the treehouse which is candle lit inside that night . The 2 arms come straight inside the window , Annie couldn’t have possibly been in the room and somehow outside hiding his head. Not sure if it was to scare him or some spell but also not sure why Annie seems to be right there when he breaks free but she’s by the wall away from the bed. When his head is grabbed the dogs barking and the door slams on it but no one is seen slamming it so maybe paranormal but then when did Annie come in? Casue I do these the door open? There’s a cool video that explains some Midsommar and hereditary stuff that overlapped when Annie was possessed by Paimon upside down banging he’d head on the door like when it was banging peters head in the desk, the rythm, and speed she’s banging her face ex’s lt matches the chopping speed of the girl chopping -100 lbs of nits for 1 cake. He said this was done to show like everything else that night charlie dies , the girl chopping nuts exactly identicle that same speed and rythm shows she was being manipulated or possessed to do it as no one would chop that massive amount of nuts for even 19 cakes. Also the frind thst invites him to the party is the cult friend and tells him his crush will be there and to bring his dick essentially guaranteeing Peter would play into the orchestrated events. Some wonder what the husband did for a living and notice his calmness , when he’s responding to an email from the cemetery about the other grave desecration , his email signature is at the bottom and shows he’s a psychiatrist which explains the calm and refusing to “play along with Annie’s” fantasy” that was actually real. There are a total of at least 5 scenes where a naked figure can jsut barely be seen in background dark rooms . I only saw the grandma and the smiling man by the fireplace , the one that so creepily smiles nonstop at “charlie” which as a cult member he knows it’s Paimon which is why you keep seeing creepy people in white robes staring and waving at charlie. It’s not to ass charlie but to see the demon god they worship. Possessed charlie asks Annie after the funeral who’s going to take care of her when Annie dies , Paimon knowing Annie will die soon.. there’s at least 5 triangles drawn on the floors at Annie’s house , her moms old room, Charlie’s room, 3 others and there’s at least 8 scenes where you can see the words Joan was screaming at Peter calling on their king of hells powers , wrote small in red on random walls they the movie. The pagan commentor said that Annie’s mom would be considered a witch that led the cult thst worships the kings of hell explaining the wooden stick figures being a Nordic pagan witch thing meant to bring evil to wherever they are placed. Beheadings if animals and people would all be sacrifices xx so all Charlie’s witch stick figures with animal heads all over her room and then in Joan’s house and the final scene tree house seem to confirm that (makes me think of Blaine witch and The Witch where those same stick frame skeletons hang in the witches forest form trees . Notice how Peter walks to the treehouse when he’s possessed at the end how slow and in a trance like state , after charlie is beheaded and he believes he jsut killed his little sister he goes from shock panic horror and seems to shift suddenly jsut putting. The car in gear and slowly starting the drive home and then his walk from the car into the house and to his bed is identicle to paimons walk at the end . Satanists, pagans and some witch groups believe for a demon to possess a human body i, thst soul of thst body has to be assaulted constantly with fear, sadness, anger , regret , remove any spiritual faith and all positive aspects of life but notice obviously Paimon manipulated charlie to have her head taken off, that most horrific experience anyone could imagine would be more than enough to break Peter to be possessed to jsut drive home , not call t police or mom and dad , not emotion, , jsut a blank stare that he doesn’t blink in at night or morning and jsut listens to Annie scream , let her find Charlie’s headless body in the back seat days after her mom dies . A planned devastation for Annie to break her down , guilt and sadness for Peter to break him down, Paimon murders the husband so he can’t interfere with the final nights. Saw another comment thst said demons want nothing but to spread fear, sadness, anger , to destroy the lives of souls that got bodies on earth and she said that’s why Annie possessed by Paimon spider manning and floating sits in the ceiling corner and wakes Peter up and floats silently to another curling ibservation point jus to see peters absolute pain and devastation from the opposite side of the room enjoying peters devastation and then moving opposite of Peter jumping out at him as Annie but growing a demonic growl to scare him towards the hall and attic access but also breaking him down in total fear now seeing Charlie’s dead, grandmas dead. Dads burnt to a crisp and mom is a demon thst floats and chips her own head off with her necklace while Peter watches , he was broken and then notices all the naked people in the attic with him and he finally was broken down enough to possess him to run out the window killing himself just removing his soul for Paimon. The book says Paimon can possess bodies under certain conditions for periods of time , male or female but to possess a body permanently it has robbed a male and the soul can’t still be there , basically thst male needs to be broken down and then die and thst body has to be dedicated or offered to him and the male needs to die becasue a demon or king of hell can’t force a soul out of its body it has to beat thst soul down to death spiritually and physically then the soul leaves the body and if dedicated or offered to it, it can possess that healthy male host for it to begin the end of all. Some of he Easter egg videos on these movies I still can’t find all of them but most.
That still doesn’t explain the look of confusion Paimon had at the end of being in Peter. Charlie and Peter are basically intertwined sharing a body since birth. It’s possible that even Paimon with the mindset of Charlie was confused by the sight of the headless mom and grandmother. Which is why the woman called him Charlie. Because that’s what he knows himself to be, fitting a movie about so much trauma that even a literal demon can become traumatized/manipulated into thinking it’s someone else
WHY WHY WHY would you make your son take his little sister to a high school party? OK. Let' s get this kid started early on being a stoner. What a mom!
The acting is phenomenal. Great movie and the amazing cast just makes it better. Toni Collette deserved every best actress award there is for this performance.
I strongly recommend reading the screenplay as well. I watched this movie once and wasn't sure how I felt about it, then I read the screenplay and watched the film again and then it jumped way up on my list of favorite horror movies.
As usual you 3 lovely ladies gave an amazing reaction. The outside camp fire reaction was a very very nice touch 👌 this movie I feel broke the boring mold of what todays horror films have become and delivered an outstanding masterpiece. The mother and son both deserve an Oscar 😁
Peter in the school yard: Doesn't anyone else see that crazy lady across the street yelling weird shit to me? Shouldn't a teacher or someone call the cops? This is not normal.
Idk if anyone pointed this out to you ladies yet! But in the scene where Peter slams his face on the desk, he actually broke his nose in that scene. He thought the padding was more secure LOL but he said it made the scene even better because of it!
Can the chick on the right, just... not? She's a damn downer and doesn't shut up, being extra for no reason. Otherwise, I really loved your reaction and the outdoors backdrop! lol
I will never understand how Collette got an Oscar nomination for the The Sixth Sense but not one for Hereditary. Not only was that an egregious error but how could the academy ignore the screenplay? They simply must join the rest of us in the 21st century and start recognizing that some genre films are pretty damned good.
Ok, now you have seen it all girls, this is the most disturbing horror movie ever in my opinion including also Jacob's ladder. You can at this point watch everything. Although I would say the most disturbing horror movies goes to Serbian film and Human centipede 2.
it's the first thing i'd tell somebody. i learned to be upfront and honest with everybody as soon as possible. i only hide the weird shit until i know they're cool but if they reciprocate or at least act like they understand, they seem to like me more. i serve in a restaurant, so when people ask why my hands are shaky, i tell them i'm an alcoholic in withdrawl and can't drink until after my shift. most people offer to buy me a shot, sometimes i take the offer they ask me how i got a black eye, my brother beat me up, i lost the fight boss asks me to come into work, i say i can but i'm very drunk, and when he's desperate, he'll say "okay but no more drinking" and gives me an extra $10
Another amazing reaction ✌️ You girls handled this better than my sister when I first showed it to her. She wasn't scared like The Conjuring but more like "What the hell did I watch, I feel like my soul has been drained" 😅 Also FUN FACT: the tongue clicking Charlie does is actually a way to call and control a dromedary camel" and Paimon is depicted riding one. He's also a little incorrectly portrayed in this film.. He doesn't really hate humans or cut off heads, I've read The Lesser key of Solomon in which Paimon is mentioned and out of all the demons he's kinda the friendliest. Unless you're selfishy trying to conjure him like the cult followers in this film ("Bring us wealth, fortune, bind all men to our will") Yea that's kinda needy and selfish 😂. Also at the beginning after the funeral when they're back at their house... You can hear footsteps before they even enter or Charlie goes upstairs meaning the followers were there the entire time (some of them most likely) FUN FACT 2: When Peter's hand raises in a crunchy possessed manner in the classroom, it is the exact same pose as the figure statue of King Paimon in the treehouse.The soundtrack though was like a sunrise in hell... Colin Stetson was absolutely amazing... That ending scene in the treehouse... The music is just perfectly descriptive to the hellish fate they were all expecting. To sum it up... You three are so mentally brave to watch this ❤️ especially Elizabeth once more. Another brilliant reaction. I've actually seen the film 7 times (I guess this is my new Titanic... Please don't judge me. 🤞😂
i also went and saw this in the theater 6 times. it's a very special movie. very affecting. crazy detail about the tongue click/camel - just one more nugget that makes me love this movie. it really was amazing watching this in the theater and soaking in the shock that fell over everyone when they realized Charlie isn't your typical main character. it was fascinating seeing how they would handle the emotionally challenging parts. esp Toni's anguished screams. truly a disturbing movie that genuinely gave me the creeps
@@a.nobodys.nobody If you haven't seen: EDEN LAKE, MARTYRS (2008 Original), INSIDE (2007 original), THE DIVIDE, SPLINTER, DEAD SNOW 1 & 2, THE WITCH, THE LIGHTHOUSE.
Oh man! I love the fact that you guys watched this outside, the ambiance was awesome (crickets, fire crackling) Love it! This movie was so creepy, and I agree, the son definitely deserved an Oscar next to mom’s performance. The part where the fire went bright (your fire) I could relate, cardboard boxes make very bright, and hot fires for a few moments 😂awesome entertainment throughout thank you❤️
This is a masterpiece.... that it makes you feel sad and creeped out and horrified does not make it bad. It was the intent of the director and the story to make you feel that way, therefore it's a success. Also, the mom is actually the sane one... she knows what her mother has intended for her children and tries to save them as she already lost her brother and father to her evil intentions. It's the situation her family is in that's insane because they're being possessed by the demon at different times (the bright roaming light) and being manipulated by the evil cult followers. If you rewatch the movie, you'll be able to spot them in various scenes. The dad is well-meaning but clueless. I suggest you watch a video that explains things you may have missed, then you'll realize the brilliance of the story and direction.
I've been watching horror films for 32 years and I've seen some things. But to me that body on the cross at the end is one of the most WTF moments I've ever seen (as is the whole movie really) First time I heard how bad this was I challenged myself and watched it alone at midnite with the lights all out. What an experience
Hey Tasha, I know you guys said that this movie was the last movie to watch this month but HALLOWEEN kills the sequel to halloween 2018 is still streaming on peacock so maybe you and Emma and Elizabeth can watch halloween kills for spooky season, please for your faaaaaans.
Hey ladies. Great reaction. So to answer your question. It wasn't the mom who put some type of ritualistic ointment on the grandmother in the funeral home. In fact it was one of the cult members. The room was full of them.
This is my favourite Ari Aster movie and Toni Colette should have won an Oscar for her performance, watch his other movie Midsommar it will freak you out as well 😱😱😱
This was so much fun to watch...I just love watching u guys react to horror..could you please also do japanese horror classics like The Grudge or The Ring? Those are really fun too :)
Okay started watching this reaction late, late last night. I got tired, so I closed my IPad so I could go to bed. Ahhhh! It made that click sound, like in the movie, when I closed the cover. Needless to say, took awhile to go to sleep. This movie…one of the most frightening I’ve seen since the exorcist (saw when I was 16 in 1980…with my Mom…why Mom, why?)…saw this one home alone with lights out….why me, why…
I always feel like the mom is misunderstood. Her life has been a shitshow, between her brother killing himself and Charlie's death alone. I would be livid with Peter, too.
@@OccumsChainsaw Lol nah son. Once you decapitate my daughter (accident or not) and leave me to find her headless body in the backseat, all bets are off. Now... im gonna tell you how I really feel, and IDGAF if it hurts your feelings. There's only so many tragedies one single person can endure... before they snap, and no longer care at all about YOU feel.
@@bailey7792 Funny how that’s exactly what happened to Peter. So many tragedies he went insane enough to have a demon inhabit him as his consciousness checked out. His mom telling him he’s worthless and she never wanted him alive was one of the seeds planted. Really, I understand where you are coming from. I do. Her anger is justified. But it doesn’t matter. The mom never wanted him. *Even before he had a chance to speak and stand up for himself, his relationship with his mom was tainted with a hidden layer of animosity. So wtf do you say or do with that? Living next to someone who you are supposed to love but won’t ever be satisfied with anything you ever say or do is torture. She can scream at the top of her lungs about Peter’s “face on his face” lol but it’s true; What you get out of life is what you put into it. She DGAF about him? Fact. She attempted a miscarriage? Fact. Miscarriage failed and now there’s a PARADOX of feeling towards her son? Big fact. She may as well be mad at a corpse. Like, she made her bed but has trouble sleeping? I would too. The point of my rebuttal is: How can you expect someone to be a good/responsible/caring person when their whole concept of love is f**ked? Of course Peter’s gonna be a problem child! Shame on everyone who never saw it coming. The kid was destined to fail. Anyone around him are just casualties of war. (Also, saying you wanted a miscarriage in the name of “love” is hypocritical and we all know it btw.) In her defence, Peter did a terrible job of even attempting to reconcile. He was irresponsible, unappreciative, and borderline rude. I’m not a fan of these types of disagreements, justifying 2 opposing sides. Peter was not a good son and she was not a good mom. Let’s just leave it at that and hope this chaos doesn’t actually happen to anyone in real life. That being said, I don’t know you but I hope you enjoyed the movie and I hope you have a good day. 😄
@@bailey7792 Well I hope your possible child never does that because you doing that is going to destroy your remaining child. Disgusting! You can tell your true feelings to therapist but not to your child. You want your alive child to kill themselves bc of the blame?
When Ari Aster (made the movie) was young he hit someone with his car. he did basically the same thing, just drove home in shock. later he found out it was a dear. obviously it left an impression.
Tony Collette DEFINITELY deserved an Oscar nomination for this movie. Her acting was top notch. Those screams. I had the exact same reaction y'all did during that mourning scene. I've lost family in the past and the pain in those screams took me back to that feeling. Also the dinner scene. That look on Tony's face when Peter throws the blame at her. It's a look of anger and feeling hurt by someone close. She nailed it so well. It still gives me chills. All the actors were great, the soundtrack really brought all of the dread and horror home, and this was the director's first movie as well! I like movies like the Conjuring, but THIS is horror. Nice house, a lot of scenes during the day and little to no jump scares. Just like The Exorcist. Also like Liz said, there's many things to catch during repeat viewings.
Also this is the best reaction video to this movie I've seen on UA-cam. Elizabeth's utter dread of knowing what's coming but also I was rolling when she lit the fire of Gondor next to y'all and you had to pause. Y'all have such great chemistry as a trio. Keep em coming!!
One of my all time favorite modern horror flicks. The lecture during the class scene is basically telling us what the movie is about. The teacher is speaking on having no control, and fate. I always catch new things when I rewatch it.
I never saw the “horror” aspect of this film. It is a great movie, but I still keep waiting for the scary part - is there some post credit scene? I always thought of it as a psychological drama but not scary
@@rileyandmike I watched it like a psychological thriller thinking it's all in her head the ending caught me off guard. My first time seeing it was alone at 1 a.m. with no distractions, and I was locked in. I dunno this movie was pure dread to me. Ari Aster considers this his family drama w/ horror elements. I consider it horror because the thought of this happening to our family, or friends is horrifying. I just feel like it's got an authentic feeling because of the heavy drama in it.
Think...no part of this movie would have happened, if Annie right from the beginning, went through her mom's boxes! Pro tips...go back to the scene, the mom's work table, watch the blue bottle! The director did Midsonmar as well. It's good but I just kinda didn't buy the premise, so I wasn't as impressed. This movie here, I would put up with The Thing, Exorcist, the shining, a few others. How Toni Collette didn't win an Oscar for this, is beyond me! A bit of horror truth, when he smashed his face in the desk, he was supposed to hit padding but didn't. His face looking all dislocated, was real! Also Peter's first class, is the same subject from the original Holloween, and the trailer for this came out the same day, the Halloween reboot did!😮😮😮Another callback is during their seance, the clock stops, callback to exorcist! What was hereditary in this family wasn't mental illness, it was Grandma and proly those before her, driving family members insane, with their satanic/cult worship! Charlie was already possessed, represented by the clicks. Heard while she was alive, and after she died, BEFORE the seance. I would say, joan tried sacrificing her son and grandson. Either they killed themselves, or she killed them. Seems if Paimon is not happy with a body it is in, it has to die and be beheaded, so paimon can leave the body, i say it happened to dear old grandma, and definitely happened to Annie and Charlie! I just noticed a weird parallel...the biggest foreshadowing...when the dad gets charlie from the treehouse to go to the funeral, she standing up in the corner, and the camera view is from below slightly like shes twisting and floating!!!! Then In the almost final scenes, the mom is up in the corner of charlies room then floats away, then is up in the corner, above peter, as he's looking at his burned dad!😮 And finally, charlie is back where we first met her, hanging in the treehouse! Biblically speaking, u NEVER want to conjure someone who is dead...this NEVER goes well! King Saul conjured the spirit of the profit, and all went downhill real fast! Anyone notice in mom's room, triangle on the floor. The mirror? Like absolutely zero reflection?😮😮😮😮. For me, I just couldn't by into Midsonmar, so I thought it was stupid. But u may like it. His next was with Joaquin Phoenix, in I think called, Beau is afraid. The Oscars ought to before themselves on this one! She has been a top ten actor, male or female, for 30 years! The mom in 6th sense, this, knives out, a offbeat comedy with Cameron Diaz, there's nothing she can't do! also think, every word out of grandma and Joanie's mouth was a lie. And u can bet they both killed off the male members of their families, to gain power or get Paimon into one of the male bodies. Or both. Joanie knew, if Annie did a seance, by herself or with family, she would let Paimon/Charlie loose in her house, because Annie had zero idea how to end a seance, or send demons back to where they came from. So Annie's dad was either starved by Grandma or he did it to himself purposely, to be weak and no good for a demon. Annie's brother said in his suicide note, Grandma was putting people inside him. And Joanie? Probably herself, drowned her son and grandson! Also after Charlie's death, the mom goes to sleep in the treehouse, watch the wall when the camera zoom pulls backwards!😮😱
I love Toni Collette's acting ever since seeing her in the film Muriel's Wedding. This film was refreshingly unexpected. Loved all your reactions to this film.
This movie wasnt as scary as it was just so emotionally fucked. This movie doesnt make you jump or scream (well not as much as others), it just makes you sit there speechless and sad
The demon this movie mentions is in some really old grimoire. 'The Exorcist' went a similar way, using an ancient evil entity mentioned in historic sources. Ballsy move. I wouldn't tempt fate.
I drank wine with y'all when I watched this. Would have been funny if y'alls campfire went up when Anne threw the book in the fireplace. Be safe and Yea both the son and Toni were robbed of their Oscar performances.
Elizabeth, ignore the haters in the comments. I think your reactions are perfectly valid and amazing. I love it when you and Emma(?) join in for the reactions… I hope you ignore all of these haters. Great reactions all around.
Well, the thing is, it wasn't mom who annointed grandma's lips, it was someone else, a member of her coven. All the strangers at the funeral are members of the coven.
As I take it, a coven of witches and warlocks wanted to conjure King Paimon, and chose “Queen” Leigh to mother the host that Paimon would inhabit. She tried it with Annie’s brother, and he killed himself because he couldn’t handle the breakdown that the host has to endure before becoming receptive to possession, and he was figuring it out that his mother wanted to put people in him. He must have seen the light waves, his reflection smiling back at him, etc. So, when Annie had Peter, she kept him from her mother. Later, she decided to allow Leigh to have interaction with Charlie, even when Leigh was possessive, put herbs in Charlie’s milk bottles, and wanted to breast feed her herself. Charlie became the host for Paimon but her female body was unsatisfactory to him. The coven knew that Charlie being female was not a big problem, they would just arrange her death, and release of Paimon, so he could inhabit Peter. Once Peter was so drained, and oppressed, he became receptive and Paimon possessed him. Also, Paimon required a sacrifice of three lives whose heads would be given as offerings. Leigh’s, Charlie’s, and Annie’s. The coven was depicting the diabolical equivalent to the birth of Christ in the manger, in the tree house, except it was the Earthly birth of Paimon. They were all naked except Joan who was Queen Leigh’s best friend and second in the coven. After Leigh died, Joan became leader of the coven, which is why she was the only one clothed. In grimoires like The Lesser Key of Solomon, (Ars Goetia,) Paimon is depicted as a crowned male with a beautiful cherubic face, riding a dromedary camel, preceded by men playing trumpets and cymbals, he holds a stick with a hand at the top, and carries three human heads. He’s very obedient to Lucifer, was the 9th to fall, commands 200 legions of demons, and has estates in the North West. He is knowledgeable in Earth, Water, and Air, arts and music, all things secret, the past and future, the human mind, and affairs of the world. He can bestow knowledge, wealth, good familiars (beneficial spirits and wisdom,) and can bind men’s will to the conjuror. If he appears alone to the conjuror, he expects a sacrifice and offering. He will speak in his native language until asked by the conjuror to speak the conjuror’s language.
20:13 when she’s having that dream she tells him “I love you.. I was trying to save you” my interpretation is that DEEP down, Annie knew that her kids had a terrible fate in store for them. So her attempt at miscarriage, and her paint thinner incident was her subconscious trying to prevent the inevitable doom her kids were going to suffer.
I never thought of that and definitely missed where she said I was trying to save you. Thanks for pointing that out!!! ❤️
I was thinking the same thing! She had some kind of intuition of what was really going on.
@@elizabethnelson673 honestly the imagery in that scene is incredibly well done. Notice the ants are on Peter’s face the same way they were on Charlie’s after the accident. I feel like the ants are a visible representation of the demon Paimon. So the ants on Peter’s face was foreshadowing which basically meant that Peter was the next desired host of Paimon.
Ya know I was thinkin, as far as this movie goes , it’s the worst tragedy ever that Annie DIDNT drop that match and kill herself and 2 children. I’d think sleep walking she wouldn’t be held responsible by God and would have avoiddd all of the help of this movie but worst of all, because she woke up and blew the match out, in movie land we saw that the grandmas promise and offering to the pagan god king Paemon that is actually a demon so this cult leader witch asks Paemon the king of riches and knowledge to give her her remaining life of riches and knowledge and bind alls will to hers and in trade for that, the promised this demon herself her daughter and granddaughters souls for eternity in hell at this demons aids where they will spend eternity as Paimon as 3 female heads and souls forget thst it Carrie’s my their hair wherever it goes and then gives her grandsons body to the demon to possess. what an unbelievably horrific ending in movie land where Annie gets possessed by Paimon and cuts her head off, the cult cuts the mother off and Paimon possesssing Charlie get her head taken off, those are the 3 souls and heads that this demon will carry for eternity by ther hair and peters body is now possessed by the 8th king of hell., so technically , the antichrist is on earth and has a body and a cult Tia tart growing and Annie’ and Charlie’s good souls got bargained to become a demons posssion for eternity in hell , they had no choice , agency and spend misery in hell forever. Seeing Annie’s body floating cutting her head off and then floating up to the treehouse and bowing tot he Paimon stick figure that has Charlie’s head which is very very symbolic poor Charlie and Annie .
I think the miscarriage efforts and wishes was both trauma related and out of a love for a son she hasn’t seen trying desperately consciously and subconsciously to miscarry becasue she spent her first 22 years of life in the most tragic family situation where her dad starved himself to death and had mental issues, and then 22 years of seeing her mom destroy her son becaue the offer she made with king Paimon was her sons healthy body and according to pagan belief for a king of hell to take possession of a body it must be male , the males soul hd to be completely destroyed , broken, torn down, strip all faith hope and love away fill his life with tragedy and hardship and eventually his soul will be literally on the verge of death allowing the demon to take possession so even if Annie didn’t know her mom was in a pagan cult or about any of this till the end of movie , she still saw 22 years of her brother being destroyed and his mental struggles , Al thst like her seemed to be stemmed from the grandma hereditarily. The beother probably saw stuff like we did in the move and fully believed it and took his own life to end the suck or maybe to not be possessed by a demon king. . Annie said her relationship with her mom never existed and was never good but actually horrible, she said she was never ever close to good enough for her mom always a failure which was her mom breaking her down over life then once her brother kills himself she marries and grandma must have a son pressuring her to have one clearly for her so Annie actually tries to not get pregnant But as we learned, when the grammas son killer himself , thst male body promised to king Paimon was dead and the male body has to be of her blood so the witch had to produce a blood grandson for the demon king and Paimon wants a male body to possess so the demon king, grandma witch cult leader and the cult must have committed disturbing sacrifices in hope she gets pregnant and it’s a boy. So Annie that can not let her mom do to a son of hers what she did to get brother is careful but ends up pregnant and with a boy so Annie does very thing she can to miscarry but nothing worked and Peter was completely healthy which is impossible if she was contact to trying everything to miscarry so the movie implies it wasn’t a choice she had, and nothing was going to take the demon kings male body away .
I have 2 female friends that were horrible abused their entire childhoods . So much so that both had their tubes tied at 18 and the other at 20 years old so they can never bring children into this world. I love them both but they have suffered serious emotional and mental struggles thst they are so damaged emotionally thst both were SO terrified to have a baby one day and have that baby experince what they did for 18 years thst that decision pernmantly take the ability to have children away at 18 and 20 wasn’t jsut the only choice , in their minds they couldn’t chance it. Still breaks my heart thst tk this day they struggle so much, they destroy every relationship intentionally to avoid the possibility of that man actually being a horrible human bieng.. they’ve deprived themselves of children and marriage . So sad to see that they aren’t capable of seeing that wanting to protect future offspring so badly from the horrors they experienced , they’d eliminate thst possibility befor chancing having their baby go through thst pain. So damn sad they couldn’t see that jsut the thought of what they did showed they could never hurt their own Child and would protect them fron thst pain at all costs. Both would have been amazing moms and logging a child in a way you weren’t loved is actually very healing. Anyway so Annie not wanting to have a baby that would experince what she did and her brother did I think was 100% the drive behind those choices
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I was gonna look up wth does the ending mean but after reading ur comment it makes a lot of more sense. So I'll save my time, thx lol.
When his mom said "That fucking face on your face" and then he saw his reflection in the classroom and you realize that's the face his mom sees on him and why she said that is crazy! Toni Collette is amazing! She should have won an Oscar
Omg I didn’t even think of that
Let's just be content that literally everyone agrees with that last sentence, no matter the actual award in that context^^
Ive watched this movie 8 times and never noticed that
I really don't think thats the implication in that scene. She's definitely referring to how he is playing dumb and clueless asking his grieving mother if she has something to say.
@@mcgfn I think it's an amazing line even out of context, because it injects this brief note of comic hysteria that makes it feel even more unpredictable and real. She does specifically say he's always sneering at her though, which we never see evidence of except in the reflection. But even if that's not the implication, in a movie full of beheadings and possessions, it's especially fun and sly to have this seemingly random, improvised-feeling rant talking about faces on faces, it certainly keeps within the repeated motifs of the movie. I think I would say she said it without herself knowing the implication though - she's just reacting to a sneer, not a demon. But we can see sly extra meanings with hindsight.
Never seen a reaction be done outside before that's cool
Thank you, thank you, it was my idea 😘
And to this movie ? PFFFFFFFFFT
@@spid333rlilly What do you mean?
@@AdamRee-lx8uh reacting outside to this movie pretty crazy. And lowkey a vibe lol
Right! It’s such a cool idea! Especially for a horror movie! Glad I managed to find this reaction and this channel.
I love Toni Collette, she's always amazing. But I'm glad you guys mentioned how good Alex Wolff is. He's just fantastic.
He's in the new Jumanji movies🎮
Came here to say exactly this; he's amazing.
To think he was in Naked Brothers Band...
Toni Collette is absolutely brilliant in the series - United States of Tara.
She was absolutely brilliant.
Ridiculous overacting. And he doesn't look anything like the rest of his family. Way too dark.
Not only you watched the movie in dark. You watched it in dark OUTSIDE. Like damn!
now imagine someone did that ALONE, that would be truly brave
pretty much every actor in this movie deserves an oscar him, gabriel byrne, and especially toni colette
The scene when the mom found the daughters body literally destroyed me. I was brought to tears myself.
Yeah I cried in india too
Jesus, Toni must have screamed her throat raw in the bit where Annie finds Charlie’s corpse. I hope she had some water after that.
That being said, easily one of the most chilling things Ive ever heard in a movie.
isnt it nice having someone who has already seen it spoiler/explain half the movie while u watch it ~
Yeah, it drove me nuts too!
I can't watch a movie with people that do that. At a certain point we're just changing the movie.
smhhh i legit hate that so much, i would either pause the movie, or turn something else on, frfr
She 's annoying af.
No, no it's not.
So did we catch in the support group scene, the mother said her brother committed suicide and wrote a letter blaming their mother and said she was trying to put people inside him. During the scene with what you knew, that's just crazy talk.
But knowing what you know at the end you realize he was the intended target for Paemon. He died. If I remember correctly there is mention of grandma taking care of and maybe even breast feeding Charlie. Also mention that maybe mother separated from grandma for a while, putting the son out of reach. I'm not exactly sure bout this.
So grandma and cult had no choice but to put Paemon temporarily in Charlie. And come to when the movie starts the son is now there and they enact their plan to correct and put Paemon in the son.
Christmas came early! Hereditary is an absolute masterpiece! How Toni Collette didn't get nominated for an Oscar for her performance still baffles me. Well, not really, horror has always been looked down upon by the mainstream. But you can clearly see, horror comes in many forms, and what Ari Aster does with Hereditary is give us real situations, grief, generational trauma, and mixes fictional horror with the realistic horror. It's truly a work of art. Definitely the kind of movie that sticks with you and creates interesting discussion long after viewing. Thank you for watching it.
Yes, I completely agree with you about the horror aspect of this movie! It is very different from what people are used to (including myself haha)
You can tell the girl on the left kept getting annoyed at the lady on the right and did her best to not show it, kudos to her, that wasn't easy
Wow what a shitty comment from a shitty person.
Haha that was her mom 😂
@@tariennewilliams-rosa542Yes it is
First time I saw this, I said to myself "Fuck you, Ari Aster! Never again!". And, wouldn't you know, next thing was me, glued in my couch, watching Midsommar!
Oh man after watching this one it has peaked my interest for midsommer. I want to watch it but don't at the same time 🤣
@@tashatipton2141 Midsommar is like going to the dentist: inevitable!
@@stathissdz2125 yes and I love Florence Pugh in everything she does especially little women
I can't tell you how effective the "wakes up in the middle of the night" scene was in theatres. The lighting was so perfect in that setting that every time I saw it (three times in the theatre) only a portion of the audience noticed it. While they were gasping and screaming, others were trying to figure out what the hell they were reacting to.
the dad was a good therapist. he knows how to handle tragedy
Apparently some of the people at the party and the other driver on the road the night of the accident orchestrated this, both intentionally making something to set off Charlie’s allergy, and getting Peter to veer off the road into the telephone pole. It was all to take out Charlie, and break Peter’s spirit, slowly drive him insane, and to the point of ending his life, just for Paimon to take over…just the same as Annie’s late brother, having taken his own life too.
Unfortunately, most don't like how Peter acted because they don't understand his performance which was actually amazing as you said. I will put a spoiler warning for anyone who reads the comments before seeing your reaction/ before seeing the actual movie itself as well. (I'm that person that hates spoilers both getting and giving them XD)
Spoiler Warning:
This movie literally made him (Alex Wolff) have to get therapy it scarred him so much and he wanted to make it as realistic as possible by doing things for real; like actually slamming his face on the desk for the classroom scene. For scenes like the part when she was banging her head and he was crying for his mommy, he based it off of military members who cry for their family members when they are afraid for their lives. Most people unfortunately think his performance is "too over the top" it is rather annoying for instance there were people in my theater that actually laughed at certain scenes like the classroom freak out. It's a shame, but I appreciate it when people do understand his choices as you all did, so thank you for that
Who says wolfs acting wasn't good ? I've literally seen no one say he was bad lol
@@PunishersZeroX I've unfortunately seen A LOT of people comment saying they hated his performance in this. "It seemed forced, exaggerated, and unbelievable." And I've seen people literally say that they laughed during his scenes. Not in this specific comment section which is good. But in other comment sections/ reviews, it's annoying to see.
I can't remember who specifically, but I've seen reactions where they've laughed at his classroom freakout scene as well. And as I said in my own movie theater there was someone who laughed at it there too.
@@deadsetondreams1988 oh wow. That's wild. Everyone in this movie legitimately freaked me the hell out. Not easy to do. They all need an Oscar lol
The demon took over Charlie's body at an early age, thats why she is so strange. When she was decapitated the demon was freed
All I can say about this movie is that it’s a realistic depiction of grief and it shows how evil can take advantage of broken minds.
This movie was super interesting from the horrible family tragedy aspect, it takes an unfliching look at how something like that would brutally impact a family, but when all the supernatural demonic stuff started to come in I lost some of the interest
@@felipeaguena5289 yeah I get what you’re saying but the performances we’re straight up flawless but the supernatural aspect made it really work in my opinion.
This movie is so emotionally draining, and yet, this is one of the funniest reaction videos, for any movie, I've ever seen LMFAO ya'll are the best!
Yay! I'm so glad you enjoyed the video!
Hopefully you like our other stuff as well and stick around ❤️❤️❤️
@@tashatipton2141 will do 👍😄
If anybody deserves an Oscar it’s Toni Collette for her performance as the mother!
I always feel bad for the dad marrying into that crazy ass family 😂 a good Christmas horror is Better Watch Out
Omg I know! He would still be alive if he never married her 😭😭😭
I never heard of that Christmas movie.. I'm definitely going to recommend that to Emma and Elizabeth so maybe we can do two like Krampus and then that one! Thank you for the request! ❤️
@@tashatipton2141 you guys should also react to You’re Next, it’s super bad ass
I wonder if him being a Paychiatrist gave him confidence he could get her thru the trauma she suffered in her childhood and obviously didn’t know thst her mom was a literal pagan cult leader who made a very big agreement with the 8th king of hell. Lol
One of the best movies I've ever seen. It is the literal ESSENCE of a nightmare. Every time I watch this movie, especially the paint thinner nightmare she has, I just feel complete doom.
I feel good saying this movie was the scariest movie I’ve seen since the Exorcist and Rosemary’s baby . Both movies have a good story and Oscar worthy acting. This movie deserves an Oscar !!!
Have you seen “Annabelle : Creation “? The second Annabelle movie? I had no desire to see it until I heard James wan was doing it and then rotten tomatoes gave it the first 100% rating for any horror movie , it’s the only 100% rated horror so I had to see it and it’s tied for me with hereditary as my 2 favorite horrors .
Some crazy fun facts: there are 8 different outdoor scenes where at least one or more naked cult memebrs can be seen outside the house in the forest . The grief group are all cult followers look at them closely and you’ll see most of them either in the house naked in diiferent scenes, outside, in the attic of treehouse. Peters friend he’s smoking pot with under the bleacher with the man bun ponytail is in the group (not sure if his other friend is also a cult member but experiences Charlie’s pain and death as he smokes likely aided by the cult member friend. Notice the pamphlet the day of grandmas funeral for the “grief group” is pushed in the mail slot in the door . The mail was already there so it was hand delivered out in BFE to their remote house for Annie to get to get her to the cults gathering to orchestrate the comming events with the new cult leader befriending her. But actually as you see when Annie’s pounding in her door she’s been workin some evil spells with Charlie’s animal head figurines , pictures of Peter with his eyes cut out meaning his soul is gone. Paimon can be seen spelled out earlier in Annie’s apartment. Annie says the chalkboard was her grandsons favorite item she used to conjur him. But when Annie sees Joan in the store parking lot Joan was placing store bags in the back of her car, when Annie gets close to her you can see that chalkboard is in the nee store bag, she jsut purchased it , likely never was a grandson becasue she mentions once she lost her grandsonS to a fire but then later says her grandson (singular) drown. The pagan comment or also said the words Joan spoke and told Annie she had to say perfectly is actual ancient pagan words that are suppose to invite a specific demon god into that moment . At Annie’s Paimon seems to pull Annie’s hair to the side of brush it to the side , remember pagans believe Paimon always Carie’s the heads of the 3 female sacrifices by the Hair and Annie was already promised to Paimon. The flare up of fire and candles is said to be fire is easy for pagan gods and also satanic demons to manipulate to scare the intended targets more . Annie speaks the words inviting Paimon into the home and into her body specifically , you hear Paimons scarry kind of grown evil sound first , then trixter god uses Charlie like voice to get the family to think it’s jsut charlie but I read another explanation that said both Paimon and Charlie’s soul now bound to Paimon and stuck at its side we’re in Annie’s body together which is why charlie sounds terrified , panicked and yelling for her mom, also said her voice is noticeable normal , it’s not the odd toned and spaced words of possessed charlie saying it was her pure soul Paimon brought into Annie’s body to convince dad and Peter but scared the crap out of them . The bursting of candle flames in a ritual is believed to be the arrival of a demon or king of hell. Exploding glasses , jsut paimons tricks , why would Charlie’s soul blast flames and break vases.? When the hands grab Peters head and he thinks it’s his mom, notice the arms grabbing his head, Peter is flat on his back centered on the bed as it clearly shows. The head of his bed is agaisnt the wall directly below the window thst looks at the treehouse which is candle lit inside that night . The 2 arms come straight inside the window , Annie couldn’t have possibly been in the room and somehow outside hiding his head. Not sure if it was to scare him or some spell but also not sure why Annie seems to be right there when he breaks free but she’s by the wall away from the bed. When his head is grabbed the dogs barking and the door slams on it but no one is seen slamming it so maybe paranormal but then when did Annie come in? Casue I do these the door open? There’s a cool video that explains some Midsommar and hereditary stuff that overlapped when Annie was possessed by Paimon upside down banging he’d head on the door like when it was banging peters head in the desk, the rythm, and speed she’s banging her face ex’s lt matches the chopping speed of the girl chopping -100 lbs of nits for 1 cake. He said this was done to show like everything else that night charlie dies , the girl chopping nuts exactly identicle that same speed and rythm shows she was being manipulated or possessed to do it as no one would chop that massive amount of nuts for even 19 cakes. Also the frind thst invites him to the party is the cult friend and tells him his crush will be there and to bring his dick essentially guaranteeing Peter would play into the orchestrated events. Some wonder what the husband did for a living and notice his calmness , when he’s responding to an email from the cemetery about the other grave desecration , his email signature is at the bottom and shows he’s a psychiatrist which explains the calm and refusing to “play along with Annie’s” fantasy” that was actually real. There are a total of at least 5 scenes where a naked figure can jsut barely be seen in background dark rooms . I only saw the grandma and the smiling man by the fireplace , the one that so creepily smiles nonstop at “charlie” which as a cult member he knows it’s Paimon which is why you keep seeing creepy people in white robes staring and waving at charlie. It’s not to ass charlie but to see the demon god they worship. Possessed charlie asks Annie after the funeral who’s going to take care of her when Annie dies , Paimon knowing Annie will die soon.. there’s at least 5 triangles drawn on the floors at Annie’s house , her moms old room, Charlie’s room, 3 others and there’s at least 8 scenes where you can see the words Joan was screaming at Peter calling on their king of hells powers , wrote small in red on random walls they the movie. The pagan commentor said that Annie’s mom would be considered a witch that led the cult thst worships the kings of hell explaining the wooden stick figures being a Nordic pagan witch thing meant to bring evil to wherever they are placed. Beheadings if animals and people would all be sacrifices xx so all Charlie’s witch stick figures with animal heads all over her room and then in Joan’s house and the final scene tree house seem to confirm that (makes me think of Blaine witch and The Witch where those same stick frame skeletons hang in the witches forest form trees . Notice how Peter walks to the treehouse when he’s possessed at the end how slow and in a trance like state , after charlie is beheaded and he believes he jsut killed his little sister he goes from shock panic horror and seems to shift suddenly jsut putting. The car in gear and slowly starting the drive home and then his walk from the car into the house and to his bed is identicle to paimons walk at the end . Satanists, pagans and some witch groups believe for a demon to possess a human body i, thst soul of thst body has to be assaulted constantly with fear, sadness, anger , regret , remove any spiritual faith and all positive aspects of life but notice obviously Paimon manipulated charlie to have her head taken off, that most horrific experience anyone could imagine would be more than enough to break Peter to be possessed to jsut drive home , not call t police or mom and dad , not emotion, , jsut a blank stare that he doesn’t blink in at night or morning and jsut listens to Annie scream , let her find Charlie’s headless body in the back seat days after her mom dies . A planned devastation for Annie to break her down , guilt and sadness for Peter to break him down, Paimon murders the husband so he can’t interfere with the final nights. Saw another comment thst said demons want nothing but to spread fear, sadness, anger , to destroy the lives of souls that got bodies on earth and she said that’s why Annie possessed by Paimon spider manning and floating sits in the ceiling corner and wakes Peter up and floats silently to another curling ibservation point jus to see peters absolute pain and devastation from the opposite side of the room enjoying peters devastation and then moving opposite of Peter jumping out at him as Annie but growing a demonic growl to scare him towards the hall and attic access but also breaking him down in total fear now seeing Charlie’s dead, grandmas dead. Dads burnt to a crisp and mom is a demon thst floats and chips her own head off with her necklace while Peter watches , he was broken and then notices all the naked people in the attic with him and he finally was broken down enough to possess him to run out the window killing himself just removing his soul for Paimon. The book says Paimon can possess bodies under certain conditions for periods of time , male or female but to possess a body permanently it has robbed a male and the soul can’t still be there , basically thst male needs to be broken down and then die and thst body has to be dedicated or offered to him and the male needs to die becasue a demon or king of hell can’t force a soul out of its body it has to beat thst soul down to death spiritually and physically then the soul leaves the body and if dedicated or offered to it, it can possess that healthy male host for it to begin the end of all. Some of he Easter egg videos on these movies I still can’t find all of them but most.
Really really amazing. Thank you so much for those details. I watched the movie today and now I can't sleep.
this is the longest comment ive ever seen. cool details though
this was a good read. thank you!
That still doesn’t explain the look of confusion Paimon had at the end of being in Peter. Charlie and Peter are basically intertwined sharing a body since birth. It’s possible that even Paimon with the mindset of Charlie was confused by the sight of the headless mom and grandmother. Which is why the woman called him Charlie. Because that’s what he knows himself to be, fitting a movie about so much trauma that even a literal demon can become traumatized/manipulated into thinking it’s someone else
Thank you for you’re service!!!
"I couldn't watch it again." Same here.
WHY WHY WHY would you make your son take his little sister to a high school party? OK. Let' s get this kid started early on being a stoner. What a mom!
The acting is phenomenal. Great movie and the amazing cast just makes it better. Toni Collette deserved every best actress award there is for this performance.
I strongly recommend reading the screenplay as well. I watched this movie once and wasn't sure how I felt about it, then I read the screenplay and watched the film again and then it jumped way up on my list of favorite horror movies.
Approaching the car with 'If you need someone to talk to..' was _The Handmaid's Tale's_ Aunt Lydia, so no problem there...
Too bad this wasn't a live chat.....I would have been like "Michael Myers is behind you"....😆😆.....great reaction! Crazy movie! 👍
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It's the "I couldn't watch it again" for me XD
Some very hard to deal with scenes but a brilliant film. Toni should have won awards for this, she was amazing in the role.
lmao yo the lady on the right is DRAMATIC lmaoooo
🤣🤣I’ve been called that before! 😂😘
I love this movie, it definitely has lots of influence from classic horror films such as Rosemary's Baby.
When she weeped for her child it gets me almost everytime I could NOT imagine. 😮💨🥺
Toni Collette is so great in The Sixth Sense, same with the kid actor Hayley Joel Osment
The girl that plays Charlie in this movie reminds me of Hayley Joel Osment.
As usual you 3 lovely ladies gave an amazing reaction. The outside camp fire reaction was a very very nice touch 👌 this movie I feel broke the boring mold of what todays horror films have become and delivered an outstanding masterpiece. The mother and son both deserve an Oscar 😁
You ladies have the best hangout for watching movies. Looks so cozy by the fire.
So that group lady definitely killed her family as well. I love the cult theme of the entire trilogy!
lmao The blonde is done by the end of the movie.
There are many hidden things in this movie. This is one of the most brilliant horror films ever made. EVER.
This is right up there with the Exorcist it builds and builds
Toni Collette was robbed of an Oscar nomination that year!
One of the best modern day horror movies so glad that you guys are finally reacting to it.
Peter in the school yard: Doesn't anyone else see that crazy lady across the street yelling weird shit to me? Shouldn't a teacher or someone call the cops? This is not normal.
Wtf only the one on the far right would think it's funny to talk through most of the movie, we get it, you can have quirky responses dam 😭
Didn't notice you were outside at first lol. Cool lol.
Idk if anyone pointed this out to you ladies yet! But in the scene where Peter slams his face on the desk, he actually broke his nose in that scene. He thought the padding was more secure LOL but he said it made the scene even better because of it!
Can the chick on the right, just... not? She's a damn downer and doesn't shut up, being extra for no reason. Otherwise, I really loved your reaction and the outdoors backdrop! lol
Don't watch them then
I will never understand how Collette got an Oscar nomination for the The Sixth Sense but not one for Hereditary. Not only was that an egregious error but how could the academy ignore the screenplay? They simply must join the rest of us in the 21st century and start recognizing that some genre films are pretty damned good.
I forgot to mention (if you haven't seen it) the perfect breakup movie also from Ari Aster.. MIDSOMMAR. You'd absolutely love it 😁❤️
This is the best horror film of this decade
Ok, now you have seen it all girls, this is the most disturbing horror movie ever in my opinion including also Jacob's ladder. You can at this point watch everything.
Although I would say the most disturbing horror movies goes to Serbian film and Human centipede 2.
watching this outside in the dark is actually so metal omg
This reaction was hilarious in parts!!! Loved it! Love this movie!
The more I watch it the more I love it. So much to discover.
it's the first thing i'd tell somebody. i learned to be upfront and honest with everybody as soon as possible. i only hide the weird shit until i know they're cool
but if they reciprocate or at least act like they understand, they seem to like me more. i serve in a restaurant, so when people ask why my hands are shaky, i tell them i'm an alcoholic in withdrawl and can't drink until after my shift. most people offer to buy me a shot, sometimes i take the offer
they ask me how i got a black eye, my brother beat me up, i lost the fight
boss asks me to come into work, i say i can but i'm very drunk, and when he's desperate, he'll say "okay but no more drinking" and gives me an extra $10
Another amazing reaction ✌️ You girls handled this better than my sister when I first showed it to her. She wasn't scared like The Conjuring but more like "What the hell did I watch, I feel like my soul has been drained" 😅 Also FUN FACT: the tongue clicking Charlie does is actually a way to call and control a dromedary camel" and Paimon is depicted riding one. He's also a little incorrectly portrayed in this film.. He doesn't really hate humans or cut off heads, I've read The Lesser key of Solomon in which Paimon is mentioned and out of all the demons he's kinda the friendliest. Unless you're selfishy trying to conjure him like the cult followers in this film ("Bring us wealth, fortune, bind all men to our will") Yea that's kinda needy and selfish 😂. Also at the beginning after the funeral when they're back at their house... You can hear footsteps before they even enter or Charlie goes upstairs meaning the followers were there the entire time (some of them most likely) FUN FACT 2: When Peter's hand raises in a crunchy possessed manner in the classroom, it is the exact same pose as the figure statue of King Paimon in the treehouse.The soundtrack though was like a sunrise in hell... Colin Stetson was absolutely amazing... That ending scene in the treehouse... The music is just perfectly descriptive to the hellish fate they were all expecting. To sum it up... You three are so mentally brave to watch this ❤️ especially Elizabeth once more. Another brilliant reaction. I've actually seen the film 7 times (I guess this is my new Titanic... Please don't judge me. 🤞😂
i also went and saw this in the theater 6 times. it's a very special movie. very affecting. crazy detail about the tongue click/camel - just one more nugget that makes me love this movie. it really was amazing watching this in the theater and soaking in the shock that fell over everyone when they realized Charlie isn't your typical main character. it was fascinating seeing how they would handle the emotionally challenging parts. esp Toni's anguished screams. truly a disturbing movie that genuinely gave me the creeps
it's also often times a hysterical movie. that was the other thing that caught me off guard - how many times this movie made me crack up.
got any recommendations for other great movies?
@@a.nobodys.nobody If you haven't seen: EDEN LAKE, MARTYRS (2008 Original), INSIDE (2007 original), THE DIVIDE, SPLINTER, DEAD SNOW 1 & 2, THE WITCH, THE LIGHTHOUSE.
It's funny how many people say it's a brilliant film but I'm never watching it again. He made the film a little too well.
Da lady that saw it before made it terrible for the other two
one of the greatest films of all time. yall's reaction proves it lol
After my first watch of this movie I was so disturbed and speechless
You guys really dove i deep this time. :)
I strongly recommend Midsommar. Beautiful film that I personally liked more than Hereditary
I just saw a movie the other day that's very Midsommar-Wickerman-esque. It's called the Apostle. It's pretty good.
11:02 " I'm sorry I was literally on fire...."😂😂😂 shhhhhhh your giving away the ending. 😂😅❤
You are the bravest souls putting yourself through this ordeal. Bravo!
I have no clue how you can watch movies with the chatty drama momma on the right ,😂😂😂✌️
Oh man! I love the fact that you guys watched this outside, the ambiance was awesome (crickets, fire crackling)
Love it! This movie was so creepy, and I agree, the son definitely deserved an Oscar next to mom’s performance. The part where the fire went bright (your fire) I could relate, cardboard boxes make very bright, and hot fires for a few moments 😂awesome entertainment throughout thank you❤️
- What's the symbology there?
- "Symbology"?... I think the word you're looking for is, "symbolism". What is the ssssymbolism there?
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You need see Midsommar 😩❤️
This is a masterpiece.... that it makes you feel sad and creeped out and horrified does not make it bad. It was the intent of the director and the story to make you feel that way, therefore it's a success. Also, the mom is actually the sane one... she knows what her mother has intended for her children and tries to save them as she already lost her brother and father to her evil intentions. It's the situation her family is in that's insane because they're being possessed by the demon at different times (the bright roaming light) and being manipulated by the evil cult followers. If you rewatch the movie, you'll be able to spot them in various scenes. The dad is well-meaning but clueless. I suggest you watch a video that explains things you may have missed, then you'll realize the brilliance of the story and direction.
I've been watching horror films for 32 years and I've seen some things. But to me that body on the cross at the end is one of the most WTF moments I've ever seen (as is the whole movie really) First time I heard how bad this was I challenged myself and watched it alone at midnite with the lights all out. What an experience
Hey Tasha, I know you guys said that this movie was the last movie to watch this month but HALLOWEEN kills the sequel to halloween 2018 is still streaming on peacock so maybe you and Emma and Elizabeth can watch halloween kills for spooky season, please for your faaaaaans.
Yes! I promise we are getting to that one very soon! I am dying to see this movie for sure!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Once the fire got reduced, I started waiting for a _Blair Witch Project_ plot line to play out. Or not.
Hey ladies. Great reaction. So to answer your question. It wasn't the mom who put some type of ritualistic ointment on the grandmother in the funeral home. In fact it was one of the cult members. The room was full of them.
I thought I knew the jist of this movie but clearly I had no clue lol Wow just wow haha dear in road scene was a lot
This is my favourite Ari Aster movie and Toni Colette should have won an Oscar for her performance, watch his other movie Midsommar it will freak you out as well 😱😱😱
This was so much fun to watch...I just love watching u guys react to horror..could you please also do japanese horror classics like The Grudge or The Ring? Those are really fun too :)
Okay started watching this reaction late, late last night. I got tired, so I closed my IPad so I could go to bed. Ahhhh! It made that click sound, like in the movie, when I closed the cover. Needless to say, took awhile to go to sleep. This movie…one of the most frightening I’ve seen since the exorcist (saw when I was 16 in 1980…with my Mom…why Mom, why?)…saw this one home alone with lights out….why me, why…
The exorcist was horrible!! So scary.
LOVE THIS FILM
Toni Collette also deserves an Oscar. Great performances all around on this one.
I always feel like the mom is misunderstood. Her life has been a shitshow, between her brother killing himself and Charlie's death alone. I would be livid with Peter, too.
Understandable, but that doesn’t give her a pass to tell him he was never wanted and she tried to abort him. Dream or not. 2 wrongs. No rights.
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Lol nah son. Once you decapitate my daughter (accident or not) and leave me to find her headless body in the backseat, all bets are off. Now... im gonna tell you how I really feel, and IDGAF if it hurts your feelings.
There's only so many tragedies one single person can endure... before they snap, and no longer care at all about YOU feel.
@@bailey7792 Funny how that’s exactly what happened to Peter. So many tragedies he went insane enough to have a demon inhabit him as his consciousness checked out. His mom telling him he’s worthless and she never wanted him alive was one of the seeds planted. Really, I understand where you are coming from. I do. Her anger is justified. But it doesn’t matter. The mom never wanted him. *Even before he had a chance to speak and stand up for himself, his relationship with his mom was tainted with a hidden layer of animosity. So wtf do you say or do with that? Living next to someone who you are supposed to love but won’t ever be satisfied with anything you ever say or do is torture. She can scream at the top of her lungs about Peter’s “face on his face” lol but it’s true; What you get out of life is what you put into it. She DGAF about him? Fact. She attempted a miscarriage? Fact. Miscarriage failed and now there’s a PARADOX of feeling towards her son? Big fact. She may as well be mad at a corpse. Like, she made her bed but has trouble sleeping? I would too. The point of my rebuttal is: How can you expect someone to be a good/responsible/caring person when their whole concept of love is f**ked? Of course Peter’s gonna be a problem child! Shame on everyone who never saw it coming. The kid was destined to fail. Anyone around him are just casualties of war. (Also, saying you wanted a miscarriage in the name of “love” is hypocritical and we all know it btw.)
In her defence, Peter did a terrible job of even attempting to reconcile. He was irresponsible, unappreciative, and borderline rude.
I’m not a fan of these types of disagreements, justifying 2 opposing sides. Peter was not a good son and she was not a good mom. Let’s just leave it at that and hope this chaos doesn’t actually happen to anyone in real life.
That being said, I don’t know you but I hope you enjoyed the movie and I hope you have a good day. 😄
@@bailey7792 Well I hope your possible child never does that because you doing that is going to destroy your remaining child. Disgusting! You can tell your true feelings to therapist but not to your child. You want your alive child to kill themselves bc of the blame?
That fist bump scared me.... WTF man!!!
When Ari Aster (made the movie) was young he hit someone with his car. he did basically the same thing, just drove home in shock. later he found out it was a dear. obviously it left an impression.
Tony Collette DEFINITELY deserved an Oscar nomination for this movie. Her acting was top notch. Those screams. I had the exact same reaction y'all did during that mourning scene. I've lost family in the past and the pain in those screams took me back to that feeling. Also the dinner scene. That look on Tony's face when Peter throws the blame at her. It's a look of anger and feeling hurt by someone close. She nailed it so well. It still gives me chills. All the actors were great, the soundtrack really brought all of the dread and horror home, and this was the director's first movie as well!
I like movies like the Conjuring, but THIS is horror. Nice house, a lot of scenes during the day and little to no jump scares. Just like The Exorcist. Also like Liz said, there's many things to catch during repeat viewings.
Also this is the best reaction video to this movie I've seen on UA-cam. Elizabeth's utter dread of knowing what's coming but also I was rolling when she lit the fire of Gondor next to y'all and you had to pause. Y'all have such great chemistry as a trio. Keep em coming!!
@@Fhloston2112 “the fire of Gondor”🤣🤣🤣
Joan popping up at the times we saw her was literally a red herring. Her sweater gave it away.
God them wine glass have gone brim full right quick about halfway through, didn't they?😂😂😂
One of my all time favorite modern horror flicks. The lecture during the class scene is basically telling us what the movie is about. The teacher is speaking on having no control, and fate. I always catch new things when I rewatch it.
I never saw the “horror” aspect of this film. It is a great movie, but I still keep waiting for the scary part - is there some post credit scene? I always thought of it as a psychological drama but not scary
@@rileyandmike I watched it like a psychological thriller thinking it's all in her head the ending caught me off guard. My first time seeing it was alone at 1 a.m. with no distractions, and I was locked in. I dunno this movie was pure dread to me. Ari Aster considers this his family drama w/ horror elements. I consider it horror because the thought of this happening to our family, or friends is horrifying. I just feel like it's got an authentic feeling because of the heavy drama in it.
If I remember correctly, Alex Wolff actually broke his nose in the desk scene.
I don’t think he broke it but he slammed it into the desk for real.
@@blakethompson2397 he did
@@richbitchhh1240 Wow that’s dedication !
Think...no part of this movie would have happened, if Annie right from the beginning, went through her mom's boxes! Pro tips...go back to the scene, the mom's work table, watch the blue bottle! The director did Midsonmar as well. It's good but I just kinda didn't buy the premise, so I wasn't as impressed. This movie here, I would put up with The Thing, Exorcist, the shining, a few others. How Toni Collette didn't win an Oscar for this, is beyond me! A bit of horror truth, when he smashed his face in the desk, he was supposed to hit padding but didn't. His face looking all dislocated, was real! Also Peter's first class, is the same subject from the original Holloween, and the trailer for this came out the same day, the Halloween reboot did!😮😮😮Another callback is during their seance, the clock stops, callback to exorcist! What was hereditary in this family wasn't mental illness, it was Grandma and proly those before her, driving family members insane, with their satanic/cult worship! Charlie was already possessed, represented by the clicks. Heard while she was alive, and after she died, BEFORE the seance. I would say, joan tried sacrificing her son and grandson. Either they killed themselves, or she killed them. Seems if Paimon is not happy with a body it is in, it has to die and be beheaded, so paimon can leave the body, i say it happened to dear old grandma, and definitely happened to Annie and Charlie! I just noticed a weird parallel...the biggest foreshadowing...when the dad gets charlie from the treehouse to go to the funeral, she standing up in the corner, and the camera view is from below slightly like shes twisting and floating!!!! Then In the almost final scenes, the mom is up in the corner of charlies room then floats away, then is up in the corner, above peter, as he's looking at his burned dad!😮 And finally, charlie is back where we first met her, hanging in the treehouse! Biblically speaking, u NEVER want to conjure someone who is dead...this NEVER goes well! King Saul conjured the spirit of the profit, and all went downhill real fast!
Anyone notice in mom's room, triangle on the floor. The mirror? Like absolutely zero reflection?😮😮😮😮. For me, I just couldn't by into Midsonmar, so I thought it was stupid. But u may like it. His next was with Joaquin Phoenix, in I think called, Beau is afraid. The Oscars ought to before themselves on this one! She has been a top ten actor, male or female, for 30 years! The mom in 6th sense, this, knives out, a offbeat comedy with Cameron Diaz, there's nothing she can't do! also think, every word out of grandma and Joanie's mouth was a lie. And u can bet they both killed off the male members of their families, to gain power or get Paimon into one of the male bodies. Or both. Joanie knew, if Annie did a seance, by herself or with family, she would let Paimon/Charlie loose in her house, because Annie had zero idea how to end a seance, or send demons back to where they came from. So Annie's dad was either starved by Grandma or he did it to himself purposely, to be weak and no good for a demon. Annie's brother said in his suicide note, Grandma was putting people inside him. And Joanie? Probably herself, drowned her son and grandson! Also after Charlie's death, the mom goes to sleep in the treehouse, watch the wall when the camera zoom pulls backwards!😮😱
I love Toni Collette's acting ever since seeing her in the film Muriel's Wedding. This film was refreshingly unexpected. Loved all your reactions to this film.
🎶Let's hear it for the boy.🎶
this movie was a 9/10 for me so yh a good movie
This movie wasnt as scary as it was just so emotionally fucked. This movie doesnt make you jump or scream (well not as much as others), it just makes you sit there speechless and sad
Traumatized…
The demon this movie mentions is in some really old grimoire. 'The Exorcist' went a similar way, using an ancient evil entity mentioned in historic sources. Ballsy move. I wouldn't tempt fate.
I drank wine with y'all when I watched this. Would have been funny if y'alls campfire went up when Anne threw the book in the fireplace. Be safe and Yea both the son and Toni were robbed of their Oscar performances.
Elizabeth, ignore the haters in the comments. I think your reactions are perfectly valid and amazing. I love it when you and Emma(?) join in for the reactions… I hope you ignore all of these haters. Great reactions all around.
Agreed, they always do really enjoyable reactions I think
Well, the thing is, it wasn't mom who annointed grandma's lips, it was someone else, a member of her coven. All the strangers at the funeral are members of the coven.
As I take it, a coven of witches and warlocks wanted to conjure King Paimon, and chose “Queen” Leigh to mother the host that Paimon would inhabit. She tried it with Annie’s brother, and he killed himself because he couldn’t handle the breakdown that the host has to endure before becoming receptive to possession, and he was figuring it out that his mother wanted to put people in him. He must have seen the light waves, his reflection smiling back at him, etc. So, when Annie had Peter, she kept him from her mother. Later, she decided to allow Leigh to have interaction with Charlie, even when Leigh was possessive, put herbs in Charlie’s milk bottles, and wanted to breast feed her herself. Charlie became the host for Paimon but her female body was unsatisfactory to him. The coven knew that Charlie being female was not a big problem, they would just arrange her death, and release of Paimon, so he could inhabit Peter. Once Peter was so drained, and oppressed, he became receptive and Paimon possessed him. Also, Paimon required a sacrifice of three lives whose heads would be given as offerings. Leigh’s, Charlie’s, and Annie’s. The coven was depicting the diabolical equivalent to the birth of Christ in the manger, in the tree house, except it was the Earthly birth of Paimon. They were all naked except Joan who was Queen Leigh’s best friend and second in the coven. After Leigh died, Joan became leader of the coven, which is why she was the only one clothed. In grimoires like The Lesser Key of Solomon, (Ars Goetia,) Paimon is depicted as a crowned male with a beautiful cherubic face, riding a dromedary camel, preceded by men playing trumpets and cymbals, he holds a stick with a hand at the top, and carries three human heads. He’s very obedient to Lucifer, was the 9th to fall, commands 200 legions of demons, and has estates in the North West. He is knowledgeable in Earth, Water, and Air, arts and music, all things secret, the past and future, the human mind, and affairs of the world. He can bestow knowledge, wealth, good familiars (beneficial spirits and wisdom,) and can bind men’s will to the conjuror. If he appears alone to the conjuror, he expects a sacrifice and offering. He will speak in his native language until asked by the conjuror to speak the conjuror’s language.
Apparently, some viewers noticed that alot Peter's schoolmates are seen as the many nude Paimon disciples at the end.