Netgear Powerline 1200 Review - Worth It?
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
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This is a review of the Netgear Powerline 1200 Network Adapters to extend your ethernet network using the power lines of your house.
Index:
0:23 Technology Overview
1:39 Netgear Powerline 1200
4:11 Test Setup
4:54 Close Proximity Benchmark
6:34 Far Proximity Benchmark
8:18 Summary
9:18 Worth it?
11:07 Conclusion
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Awesome review, thank you for being honest and upfront about the product and showing your test!
been using these exact units in our house. We cannot run cables due to the house construction, so this is great. Speeds are very good, in fact, better than our wifi setup!
But this is of course OUR situation.
New house?
i have the TP-Link AV2000 and I get 130-200Mbps out of 200Mbps over 300m passing through 2 switchboards with TV, fans, 3 ACs, Fridge, lights, etc on. It really depends on your electrical wiring. If it's good, then you can expect great powerline rates and as such throughput. Btw my powerline rate is 600-750Mbps.
@@mgjulesdev nice fantasy, now back to reality, its not reaching even 50m much less 300
Very informative and answered my questions. Thank you!
Thanks, great review!
I bought these for the purpose of remote locating a 4K security camera running at 30 fps. I wanted to locate the camera 150 ft away from the house at my main outdoor panel. I am pleased to say that it works perfectly with no frame loss, consistently for almost a year now. Between the two units, there are 4 circuit breakers and a 120v leg change. I decided to test it to extremes. From that panel there is a 300ft feed to my workshop. Add 2 more breakers for a total of 6 now, with a total length of AC cable of 450ft. I was impressed to see that the unit linked green immediately and transferred the 4K, 30fps video perfectly! Granted, I did not do actual data/speed testing like you did, but my goal was simply linking to a very high resolution security camera feed. I find the 1200 exceeds my expectations in my application, and has been perfectly reliable for almost a year now. Note that there are also 2 GFI outlets between the two 1200s also.
Thanks Tom - this is what I wanted to know - same thing - have a shed on the property with same kind of setup.
Just what I needed! Thanks for posting your expeience.
Greetings all. I just thought I would add, it's still working great!! Also, keep in mind that the one unit is outdoors, in a water proof enclosure, experiencing harsh Rochester winters and some hot 90 degree days too. I'm very pleased. I hope it's working as well for everyone else!
Does it heat up though? Are they warm to touch?
@@EricLatios Hi Eric, I noticed in the beginning of deployment, they did not get hot. I just checked the one in my basement now, and it is not even as warm as any cell phone wall wart that I have, that are plugged in, Not even charging a phone. This tells me they have low power consumption while operating. It's a good question Eric, because heat generation in electronics like this is definitely related to longevity. I'm happy to report that these units are STILL operating normally, no apparent degradation of data transfer, 3 green LEDs right now. They have experienced multiple lightning induced line spikes now too. I give kudos to the Engineering team on this product. Many consumer electronic products are dead by this point, (like ones designed with low grade electrolytics). I would have to give this product 5 stars at this point.
Gigabits powerlines/LAN adapters works extremely well with a 4K TVs. The speed is good enough for playing 4k videos with zero buffetings. The benefit is easy to use, not more dealing with cables, etc.
Thanks for a very detailed review of the power line adapters. I am looking to buy one as its great if you live in a rental property and do not want to spend money and/or make any modifications to the house to lay Ethernet cables. If you vacate the property, you simply unplug them and take them with you.
What is your signal source at the rental?
Great review - Thank you
thanks for the vid, you explained that really well. Im guessing though if you have 3phase power in your home you would have to make sure they are all on the same phase?
I love this vid.
I’ve never seen such a gigabit LAN adapter.
I thought the specs were about 100Mbps/limited
Consistency > speed.
Sounds like something someone with slow Internet would say
@@kojimaisgod9500 LOL
@@kojimaisgod9500 well with a 200mbps(not the fastest but it works) I stand by consistently>speed. In the room I only actually get 50 Mbps (possibly faster speeds with a faster power line adapter). Gaming on the power line vs wireless is hands on way better with the power line adapter. I've tried wireless and it randomly lags with a higher speed overall.
@@kojimaisgod9500 i have fast internet and i'd rather have much less thats consistent than this.
@@noahw5887 due to the latency. High speeds are great for downloading games to your system, but having a consistent connection with low latency would be much better for actively gaming
Hello, thank you for doing this review. It was very helpful.
Thanks for the info! Very helpful. 👍
I liked your review. I have an outbuilding that is 200 feet away from the house and need some signal in the outbuilding. Both buildings are on the same electric panel. Do you recommend this product in this case or is there other tech that is better to use?
really well made video thanks alot
Great video, really helped!
Hi Stan, what plan do you have for Internet? We have 100mb through Spectrum. Could I expect to get near that speed with this system?
I have 4 of the 2gb version (PLP2000) and although the speeds are okay, the reliability seems to be an issue. My son plays xbox right next to me out of the same unit and he doesn't have as much of an issue while I get constant connection errors with Destiny 2 on PC. My network speeds are also slightly higher on wireless. I wish there was a way to update firmware and fix it, but there is no way on the PLP2000.
I am looking for a new one i had a D-link powerline and I've only had problems from the day i got it.
I snapped it in half and went back to wifi for now.
I use one for my computer it works great I’ve had it for about a year now!! Definitely worth it guys 🙂
What speed internet plan were you using when testing the speeds?
May I ask what measurements are needed for Zoom meetings and similar use?
Thanks for the review! I'm currently at the mercy of my roommates setup and our wireless router is downstairs, my room is directly above it but I still only pull like 30-40 mbps through my wireless connection. If this can basically double that from being hard wired (which I always prefer to be) then I'm definitely going to check it out, but I'll also be aware of the return policy from wherever I purchase it, just in case. I also know they make the adapters without the extra outlet so I'll probably go with that version because I don't mind losing the outlet it would take up~ Thanks again for posting this as it's one of the few powerline adapter reviews!
Did it help at all? My room is directly above the router cuz it's in the living room.
@@brwnjokr7601 same i need to know lol
Literally my situation, how did it go??
Don't keep us hanging
@@brwnjokr7601 did it end up helping you?
I know this video is older but I just grabbed a couple of these for my game room. I have the series X and it’s a bit far from my router/modem and I was wanting to get a better connection. Do you know if you can use some of these in conjunction with a wife booster?
You need a phase coupler in order to achieve (almost) the same speed at every socket, the distance alone is not that important, the outer conductor phases are more important. Your 60-70mbit reading as opposed to the 200mbit is pretty much the loss you would expect from an outlet that doesn't use the same outer conductor as the one the adapter is plugged into, in which case the only way the connection exists is electromagnetic "crosstalk" between different wires, causing about 1/5 loss. A phase coupler connects all active outer conductor wires so you get the same speed everywhere.
What happens during power surges or for multiunit buildings suchas apartments ?
Loads are balanced over phases. I suppose you need to connect the units to outlets on the same phase?
This video was very helpful thank you
Would this speed be good for reducing lag for gaming when its not close together?
Just bought the powerline 1200 and you are spot on. These things are very slow. Running gigabit and couldn't get over 25 MBps. then it dropped to 8 not to mention random disconnects. Great video, detailed and stopped my troubleshooting in its tracks. Thanks👍
Yo if u have an xfinity wi-fi can u still use a netgear powerline adapter?
Would it work as an ethernet backhaul for a tri band system to free up the other 5Ghz band?
Thank you very much for your beautiful review - you said that you can pair more than 2 powerlines to the 1ST powerline but I did not see anyone sell more than 2 powerlines in one box. do you know where I can buy more than two? if I buy it separately would all the powerline would pair using the same method of pairining?
One question I do got is, I live in about a 15 year old home and I don’t recall upgrading like making the wires better. Will it still work with an old homes? Or does the houses even affect it?
Hi Stan - thanks for your great review. You had said you had 4 of these devices throughout your house already. Then at the end of your video you said you pulled CAT6 cables instead. So are you NO LONGER using your original 4 power-line devices? Thx.
Hello, what kind of speed test you’re using???
How about if my BW is just 30Mbps? I do have intermittent wifi in the room that is located farthest from the wifi router. Could thisNetgear Powerline do the job?
You're awesome Stanley, Thank you!!
Great video but I can't find where it tells me which portal on the router I plug the cable from the powerline adaptor into ?
Thank you just what I wanted to know
I'm wondering, is there a booster for these? I'm plugged in downstairs and my upstairs bandwidth to gaming PC's is really slow. I don't have wireless capability on my gaming PC's. I always game with wired connections.
Great info thanks
hey man thank you this just secured my purchase on this
Is it any good? How is your ping?
Very informative. Thanks. Ciao from Italy
Can I use different Ethernet cables for the power line adapter rather than the one given in the box
Can I pair this with tp link wifi re650? Dont have a router or modem sucking off landlord wifi.
My only concerns are security and spikes.
Being connected to house wiring, could household network be listened to(or tapped) from outside the building? Yes, I am inside of my router, doesn't this place my network internals in the open? Just wondering.....
How hardy are these devices? Can they be used along with spike/surge protectors?
And of course noise. Any problems from ac, refrigerators, home appliances etc..
Nice evaluation....
Will these work with fixed wireless internet coming into the house?
Hi there. Is it possible to use a CAT 6 cable on a powerline adapter
If you can't get them to work, make sure you are not using surge-protected outlets or extension cords. They filter the power, and also can interfere with the powerlink signals.
I was hoping to hear what the laptops speed using just wifi would've been in both areas you tested the product.
Therrion ' I was too
Ya kind of pointless video without showing that
It’s about half of what you’re router provides but the stability benefit outweighs the speed loss. CoD now has no lag at all.
Here are some stats for you:
I was getting around 30MBPS between laptop and internet via wifi. I was looking for at least equivalent speed and more stability for zoom, so I bought a similar product from d-link - see link below. It says "Experience wired speeds of up to 1000Mbps". Given that the plan I have is for 50MBPS, I wasn't expecting a full gigabit.
The setup was simple and worked well. It performed better the closer I was to the router, but the speed was so disappointing (from 5 to 10MBPS) that I returned the item to the store.
I was thinking of trying the netgear product, but a google search shows that the problems I had with d-link seem to be common to netgear as well.
us.dlink.com/en/products/dhp-601av-powerline-av2-1000-gigabit-starter-kit
@@aljacko1 idk, i was getting 400-800Mbs directly connected, i wanted to move my computers to a different area but didnt want to run wires, i got this and now i get anywhere between 3-40mbs
I only have a 50Mbps connection and I am happy with that and can game and stream 1080p netflix fine. These would be more than enough for that right?
Hi, where can I get that adapter for my laptop cat5 to lighting for Mac. Thanks
I have 3 tp powerlines av600 models in my house. My 2 smart TVs buffered on wifi but I now have them plugged into the wall and no more buffering
Getting a repeater is better, these things add so much Latency and cause issues with packet loss
Will connecting these adapters result in a hard-wire-like connection? Or is this more like a wifi booster?
I use this and had it for more than 2 years I think now, definitely worth it guys! I play online a lot and it's important that I have a good connection to get the drop on people and this has been far better than using wifi and better than having a cord run throughout the houses I've lived at!
So you do get faster speeds from this than wifi? My router is probably 20-30ish feed from me and im getting like 120 down and 40 up, but wired overall just prioratizes ur pc so you get lower ping even if u had the same numbers. So do you think its worth me buying these powerlines or any other ones in specific? Looking for someone who has experience with an answer/opinion
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Question! My basement is on its own circuit breaker. Does this mean I won’t be able to use it? I plugged these in and my signal dropped from 200 via wifi to 18 with this kit. When I wire directly to the modem, I get over 600 mbps
can you test packet loss between all of wifi and lan and power?
Hi n thank you for the video..... will try the extenders, just what I need. Two quick questions,..... u must be into audio recording/production. Where did u find the foam dampers attached to your walls? Also your desktop is beautiful, did u build or buy? Thanks again for review!
Your review is exactly what I needed. The only reason I wanted to buy these was to be able to game online with my friends, since my gaming desktop computer is quite far from my router and also not the same floor (router upstairs and PC downstairs).
And your video proved to my beyond any doubt that it is clearly not for me...
Thank you so much!
I have been using powerlines for years, and so long as your wiring is moderately recent, then you will get a much more stable connection and lower ping than wifi. My router is downstairs, and I game on my pc upstairs. I max out at about 220mb/s and much better ping. Up to you of course, but I recommend powerline for pretty much everything except huge data transfer, then a good old trust cable just can't be beat
Thanks for the video =)
..can it be implemented on grid tied solar inverter and handle hundreds of different ip/Mac addresses to a single Powerlined receiver..? For solar yield monitoring.. currently the wireless is less ranged..and what's it's range?
I have a 2000mb powerline adapter which is twice the 1 GB nic that plugs into it to counter the losses. Both adapters are on the same power circuit and it works great near line speed . Proper house ethernet wired house would be far better but that isn't feasible in my situation with insulated double skin solid brick walls .
Wow, very detailed and helpful review. I’m going to buy it. I hope it works.
Clare Vision did it work?
Was it any good?
DID IT WORK? what speeds you got with this?
If I buy 3 powerline extenders and put them throughout the house will the furthest powerline be reached?
great video thanks bro
consider to use the device because I have a device in upstairs which can only connect to ethernet cable. considering the signals will go from the first floor outlet to the main house power switch box and then to the second floor power outlet, the speed lost is reasonable.
What if your attempting to get wifi in another building on the same electric service?
I am a little confused. Does this transmit the Ethernet frequency they wifi or does the signal get transmitted they the electrical wires?
Hey thank you for making the video. I stream on twitch and am wondering if this will provide a more consistent connection? My problem is that my bit rate drops and my stream lags. I currently get 50Mbps which works fine until it dips below that (due to wireless connection Im currently using). The distance would be less than 50ft through a couple walls so it would not limit my speed from what i understand in this video. Also, there is now available a powerline kit for 2400Mbps. Would that be a better investment or can i save some money for the same outcome?
you would be able to combine the bandwidth of both network interface in Windows.
These are the most reliable thing other that an actual lan cable and in the correct situation can send signal lots further than lan without the same losses these do not lose signal over distance as some suggest more that in most cases the wiring becomes more fragmented as it travels always from the router for example in a mansion from one end to the other these would maybe beat LANs as there is only x amount of rooms always and would most likely loose around as much as same amount of small rooms traveling less distance
I just got these. Sometimes the pick a plug led turns red but I still get a signal. Is this something that should be fixed. Also there is nothing else connected it's just Etherley into my pc from the adapter
would this work if i'm in the basement and the router is all the way upstairs? upstairs my router gives like 150 mpbs download and in my basement i get like 2 and it is awful
How about gaming? I have a great wifi but still get freeze lags, if i get a powerline will have those unstable freeze lags?
Will this work with my windstream router?
i bought this because when i got my computer it came with an antenna with it and i was getting like 10 mbps download and now im using this and im getting 20 with 300 mbps network like i dont understand the internet box is downstairs but im not that far away from it if you were to look in my pov, what can i do to get faster speeds?
does this cause any issues with electrical panel or sub panels ?
So what would I get paying for 100 mbps when they are in different locations
How long (ft) is the ethernet cable?
If I get one for my room will it improve my PS4 speeds?
This may be a bit late in relation to the time when this video is published. I am living in the UK.
In general, Powerline adapters are good when you are living in a rented property where you may not be allowed to drill through a wall as this may cause the loss of your deposit and/or get into trouble with the landlord.
Secondly, if the construction of the property is concrete, i.e. the presence of steelwork inside the concrete, this will severely affect the WiFi signal. (Just to be sure, always check if there is a metal ladder between your WiFi router and your computer, It has been proven that metal lattice can "absorb" and hence reducing the WiFi signal strength)
Thirdly, when you are in a situation where the actual length of the cable is near or greater than 100 ft. For example, the direct distance between the router to your computer maybe 15 or 20 ft, but when laying the cable and fixing it to the bottom of the wall then up the wall behind the door frame, etc., you get my drift.
Lastly, this is more of a basic condition that has to be satisfied. Make sure the "source" powerline adapter and all the "recipient" powerline adapters ARE ON THE SAME RING (this is what the electricians in the UK called a circuit). For example, in my single storey flat or apartment, all the wall sockets, except those in the kitchen, are on one ring. All the sockets in the kitchen are on another ring. All the ceiling lights are on another ring. So, my router is in the sitting room. My computer is in my bedroom, I can connect the two using a pair of powerline adapter. But if I take my laptop into my kitchen, saying trying to watch a video teaching how to cook a certain recipe since the sockets in the kitchen are on another ring, I will not be able to connect my laptop to the router via powerline adapters (let ignore the WiFi factor for illustration purpose). The practice of which sockets are on one ring differs in different countries or even different electricians in the same country because this is governed by the total load on that ring.
Powerline adapters were very handy devices before the birth of WiFi. Nowadays with 4G and 5G, powerline adapters are becoming redundant. Nowadays, the manufacturers are including WiFi extension function in the adapters. It sounds good but I personally will not pay for something that I won't use.
One more thing about powerline adapters. Be careful not to plug in an electric device that draws a lot of power into the same ring as the powerline adapters are on, e.g. power tool, powerful vacuum cleaner, powerful hair drier. The interference they create will degrade the network signal. The worst case would result in irreparable damage to the NIC on the powerline adapter. The most common effect would be choppy video if watching UA-cam. I had experienced the loss of network connection.
I hope this information help.
Edit: I forgot one important aspect of using powerline adapters, which is that they DO NOT WORK with power extension! They have to be plugged into the wall sockets directly.
Very nice video thanks.
I thought the way these things work is that if both power line adapters are on the same line on the same side of the circuit breaker panel then they operate well.
but if one power line adapter has to travel through the circuit breaker that's when performance degrades quickly.
at least that was my understanding. And when they run power cables through the house, they daisy chain them through this outlets.
does that possibly explain the much decrease performance when they were on other sides of the house?
This would depend on the wiring in the house most country's use a loop for top and bottom floors and the signal does pass through the circuit breaker fine
In fact most of the times these are used this will be the case
What makes problems is when trying this pre circuit breaker or when connected to circuit breaker post main panel that are not looped like most sockets are
Also some plugs around the house will be what is called a spur
So for example in the UK law only allows 1 spur consecutively away from the main loop these spurs will not have the same throughput as a socket on the main loop
Only way of telling take face plate of socket and 6 wires coming In means loop and 3 would mean spur
However In other country's that allow multiple spurs the first spur would have 6 wires too it gives the effect of having them In extensions which although lots of the times they will still work great speed will be reduced
I question the label super-user when you only have one monitor. J/K. Very nice review.
Would this product effect ping at all?
I'm not sure if anyone else covered this, but the room you are in will affect speeds based on which power phase you are on. Same phase room, good speeds. Opposite phase, poor speed or even no connection.
did you test the speed on 5 Ghz WiFi or 2.4 ? You should use 5. That could explain low speed showed on video...
Great review. I am curious though, what download speeds are you paying for from your internet service provider? If you're paying for 300 mbps, then getting 250 from the powerline is pretty good. If you're paying for 1.5gbps and getting 250, then that's another story.
I'm paying for 1gb. On wifi my PC gets on avg around 100 mbps dl. On ethernet I get 850gb. I just cant do the cables through my apartment. My gf would kill me lol. My PC is only 5 ft from my router though. Wondering if this is a good fix for me?
@@xNobl3x Usually routers have their own ethernet ports. If it's really that close you your pc, then a 5ft ethernet cable should be able to connect the two, without laying cable through entire flat.
Otherwise, with this, you'd still need an ethernet cable connecting your pc to the nearest electric outlet.
I jus wanna get better connection for my Xbox man☹️. I’m using wireless right now and it says I have 4 bars. But when I get in a game of 2k I start lagging a lot to the point where it’s unplayable. So do u think this would work for me? I’m about 20-25 feet away from my router
Can I plug one adapter inside a shed and the other inside a house?
Can an ethernet switch be added to these. I want to hardliners my 2 game consoles. But this only has one ethernet port.
Thanks for basic science/testing. For me I am no tech guy snd I wondered about these things. Obviously wired CAT is better but perhaps you can do a follow up for those of us less tech savvy: some type of graphic display as to speed deference between those power line devices directly compared to your CAT whatever and your wireless AC Router and then same with real world FFP gaming. I n my situation, I am hesitant to try to wire to game room but I can tell that wireless has forced me to modify steam link settings. I would like to know if power line adapter is an approvement of significant nature over your wifi.
I can’t get near 20mbps..... I was just happy having more than 4 or 0.7mbps on average and now I find out 100mbps is considered descent?
A tip would be to not use xfinity
It doesn’t boost your speed. It just provides a stable hardwired connection in another room.
@@aljacko1 despite the speed loss is it much more stable than wifi?
@@ryou6453 ethernet cables tend to be more reliable and have consistent connection
@@anoobis8674 yes but compared to wifi....???
When you ran the cat6 cable to a router from your upstairs to your downstairs, did you have to have two different SSID?
Both my two routers share the same SSID and passwords. This way, the laptop can hop between the two signals, whichever is stronger.
good information thanks
How is this for a smart tv? I have a weak signal and no Ethernet jack so watching streaming tv is excruciatingly slow with buffering.
Which CAT cable would you use?
Two things to consider. You need to have these adapters connected on the same power outlet circuit to work. So they may not connect on every outlet throughout your house or apartment. The other thing is they run alarming hot. I had 4 TP-Link Powerline adapters and was afraid that they would catch on fire and burn the house down. I ended up removing them and installing TP-Link extenders which run a lot cooler.
Need to be plugged into outlets that are on the same side of your break box.
That's true only if you have new AFCI breakers in your panel that block high frequency signals. Any homes older than 10 years should perform much better and will not have problems with connections between most outlets in the house.
no they don't. Or at least every single one that I've seen use the neutral wire and more and more they're starting to use the ground wire to increase bandwidth and really only moving through sub-panels causes issues due to the amount of bridge tab, inconsistent grounding can be a big problem too.
Wait what
I bought a powerline adapter about 7yrs ago that I used a few times after moving house to get me by till I could run a cable. In that sense it has been handy and worth the 50 or I paid for them but I usually try to then get a cable sorted as soon as possible.But for 50 or so it's not too bad to have them as a backup
This may be something to consider. I have had to set a home office downstairs in the living room area because my WiFi doesn't work in the upstairs office unless I switch to the 2.4 GHz band but there is so much attenuation that I can't run my video teleconferencing. (This is an old house built in the cold war on a military base so the walls are a bit thick so wifi extenders are meh.)
Great video. I get so confused with all the tech talk so I have a basic question. I need wired internet for my home job. My router and modem are downstairs and I need to work upstairs. So are you saying I could purchase this adapter and plug my ethernet cable to my modem/router downstairs to the adapter and then plug the other adapter upstairs to my computer and have wired internet?
Yes.
are these wifi or do they have to be connected permanently to ethernet cable