There is now a new version of this video with longer lasting captions for those of you who have commented that they go by too quickly for reasons explained below but also can't read text on paused video due to platform limitations.
I took my dad here shortly before he passed away , he stood next to the mallard and said , I stood next to it as a young lad , now I'm standing next to it as an old man
I was born in Cape Town, South Africa in 1943, and I remember so well the wonderful steam engines which ran from Cape Town Central down to Simon's Town in our beautiful Cape Peninsula. My parents would take me to Wynberg Station, very near to where we lived, to watch the steamers chuff slightly uphill towards Cape Town and return, almost celebrating the hard uphill run. My Scottish Granny would say that during their uphill run the engines would say "I think I can, I think I can, I think I can" and on the downhill run they would say "I knew I could, I knew I could, I knew I could". I have never forgotten this wonderful Chuffing Song, and I am 80 years old. Also, it's so great to see the magnificent Spirit of South Africa in real life, although so far away! Well done to all who keep these giants of steam alive!!!
Beautiful to see these A4s together and looking so splendid. I would love to see one of them in the original Silver Jubilee colors, especially with matching rolling stock. That must have been a glorious sight in the day !
It's good to remember these wonderful machines, the engineering that went into making them and yes they were not very economic to run but it's all Britain had and they worked tirelessly throughout the war years, I just love the smell of locomotives in steam and I'm fortunate to live close to the steam preservation here in Ireland so see steam quite often and it never fails to make me smile when I see them in steam
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What an exquisite video-beautifully filmed and more importantly benefiting from classy editing- not to mention the often amusing observations in the commentary!
I know- you can't read that fast... When I posted this it was possible to add pauses in UA-cam. Since I don't have that fast a connection I took advantage of this by keeping the text screens to a couple of seconds which significantly reduced the size of the video file and thus the amount of time it took to upload which was already hours. UA-cam has since removed this feature and now has removed the pauses. It should be easy enough to pause the video but a comment from WashingtonSAFC (below) revealed to me that UA-cam applications on some devices (for no doubt excvellent reasons) obscure part of the screen making them illegible. The captions have now been reproduced in the video description which I hope will make them accessible to more viewers.
If you pause a video now (whilst casting onto your TV, which is the way I watch videos, at least), a stupid block of black screen covers the bottom about 50/60% of the screen. So pausing it would be futile, now.. Some recent 'improvement' to the UA-cam app, it's no doubt classed as.. I was there on the Wednesday, what a glorious sight. I found this video by total accident/good luck. I wasn't searching for it, it just showed up on my feed,, pleased it did.
@@WashingtonSAFC I wonder what whoever designed the YouYube App on your telly thought its users needed a pause button for- massive own goal. As you were there I doubt there's much in the text you don't already know. I'm still not keen to spend several hours reposting the vid' but but I'll reproduce the text in the pinned comment for anyone in the same boat. I'm glad that you could enjoyed the film anyway, thank you for your comment, and hope it didn't spoilt things too much.
@@TimRuffle Oh dear, it's not a "UA-cam app on my tele", it's watching a video on my tele whilst playing it on my mobile and casting it via Google Chromecast. It happens with my OnePlus 9, my LG, the Missus OnePlus 8. And it happens on our new 55" Toshiba in the living room, our 43" JVC in the bedroom, our 40" JVC in our caravan. Using 3 different Chromecast dongles, each in a different device, from the two latest generations of Chromecast (Bearing in mind, if it's Chromecast that's the problem - and not the mobile phones, the various TVs, or your unfeasible writing - it's probably fair to say that Chromecast is probably the most common casting device, so it's also fair to say that it's not just me that has the problem with your video).
@@WashingtonSAFC Regardless of the device being used blanking half the screen when a video is paused is daft. Anyway- I've repeated the captions in the description which, I hope, will make them more accessible.
Thank you for this film and don’t be sad a lot of kids wills have seen the anniversary and if not been immediately converted to steam addicts will now appreciate a piece of their industrial heritage
There’s actually a rarely seen 7th A4 in existence. She was built at Warren Truck Assembly in Warren Michigan and is now owned and operated by my family. Painstakingly repainted in LNER Garter Blue, she is America’s Mallard.
Thank you for this, the affection the British public have for our heritage is wonderful, I remember these ladies as a kid, thank goodness we someone had the nownce to preserve such wonder, thanks again for a wonderful video.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for your comment- sorry not to have noted it earlier. My dad told me the first time he ever went to Kings Cross Mallard was there.
Impossible not to say the claimed 126 mph land speed record. What happened to Britain? They were never as good as they'd hoped and today cricket scores have much to tell.
Still nothing to compare with watching these wonderful engines at speed during their working lifetime for BR. Many of them used to go thrashing through East and West Ardsley (between Leeds and Wakefield) on a regular basis, and to stand by the track side, separated only by a wooden fence was the REAL experience, never to be forgotten.
I know how you feel Ron Our fave was a few miles north of Grantham on the Elizabethan Going full chat .That was the best chance of seeing the Scottish A4s. Grantham was also a good place for the north eastern streaks as it was a turn round to return north . Another thing about Grantham many ex plant Pacific's were run in from Doncaster before returning .
I agree with your sentiments but the Leeds-Wakefield rail line does/did not run through West Ardsley. On the other side of the line from East Ardsley station to the sheds at the Falls is the village of Thorpe (on-the hill). West Ardsley is at least a mile away (past Ambler's Mill across Bradford Rd.). Nonetheless you are correct that we could see all these great locos not least because of the sheds. Both my granddads were drivers and lived in Thorpe. My mum's dad took Mallard from Leeds to the Ardsley sheds for a re-fit sometime in the 50s and gave my dad a ride on the footplate from Beeston.
I was born just before the end of steam and my memory doesn't go so far back so I make no apology for liking Diesels and shall yield to no-one in my love for Deltics. That having been said I think you have to have something amiss between the ears not to appreciate Sir Nigel's finest to some extent.
TimRuffle You can keep your Deltics mate. I am sorry for you for missing out on the thrill of an A4 sounding off a mile before a station such as Grantham. The lads calling out " streak streak " The A4s in that BR green. By the way the colour of Union doesn't look quite right. My mate and I stood on Peterborough when Mallard stopped on an up passenger. The crew made our day by allowing us on the footplate .Those Were the days.nut
Sorry your comment didn't appear straight away- can't see why but it was flagged as spam by UA-cam. I will keep the Deltics thank you very much. I only saw them for about six months in traffic long after they were demoted to secondary services by the HSTs but they still made quite an impression. You can certainly hear a Deltic coming from a mile away and it never ceases to thrill me but I can assure you I derive no little pleasure from hearing and seeing a big kettle. I can't criticize anyone for favouring an A4 and hope you can agree with me that they're both great machines. There's a subtle difference between Union of South Africa and Dwight D. Eisenhower perhaps just because Dwight has a new paint job. There could be quite a lot of variation between individual loco's with supposedly standard liveries. Hope you enjoyed the film.
@@MrsBobby-gy5of TimRuffle exactly the same happened to me on Peterborough North in the late fifties. I was standing on my own at the end of the platform on a Saturday morning drooling at Mallard when the driver asked me if I wanted to come up onto on the footplate. I can still feel the heat and smell the smell sixty years later!
Thank you. To be fair Locomotion was planned as a storage shed for the NRM before someone pointed out that opening it to the public would help meet the Museum's obligations to keep a certain percentage of the National Collection on display (and probably added "why not?"). I don't think much changed in the plans and it has always attracted many more visitors than were expected so everything has always been a bit improvised. It appears some big changes are in the works so here's hoping for some improvements. Thank you for your comment and sorry not to have noted it earlier.
What a great event that was, best event the NRM has ever held and certainly the best event ever held at shildon since 1975. Glad i was there every day for that, you even got me on camera a few times lol.
Thank you- I'm glad you enjoyed it. There was a teriffic atmosphere with lots of families and casual visitors there and I hope I captured some sense of it.
There was wind tunnel testing with a Plasticene model. Apparently aerodynamics were fine but smoke clearance was non-existant (a problem never solved with the LMS's Princess Coronation streamliners) until someone picked up the model non too carefully and left a dent behind the chinmy where his thumb had squashed it out of shape. Out of desperation the model was tested anyway and suddenly smoke clearance was excellent- better than previous efforts with "semi-streamlining" and smoke deflectors as seen on the W1 and first P2s all of which were soon rebuilt with A4 style streamlining. Hope you liked the film.
@@TimRuffle Sure did Tim. I was brought up in Holborn just up the road from Kings Cross/St Pancras/Euston stations. I was at senior school in Kings Cross 1957-62 so was able before school/lunch times & after to enjoy the steam era then run by British Rail. A 1d (penny) would buy you a platform ticket unless you knew the ropes & went to platform 10 which was between the main line platforms & suburban platforms. It had the best view as it was also opposite the coaling & water point that had a turntable as well to turn the engines for a return trip up north. That was in the day we had porters on the platforms & the station master always had a big coal fire burning in the grate in his office in winter. My school master (Mr Myers) always said if I paid as much attention to my school work as I did the trains I would make something of myself. He somehow got me tickets to the unveiling of the first Diesels No 1000 & 1001 by British Rail at either Battersea or Nine Elms, it was a long time ago. This was the start of the Diesels & the end of the steam days. The A4's were every lads favourite, like Silver Link, King, Sparrowhawk, Mallard, Empress of India, Union of South Africa, William Whitelaw, Kestrel & many more. I saw the full class of locomotives except there may have been a couple lost during the war years. In them days they were all in BR Green livery with no wheel coverings. Happy Days.
Paul Caswell Hi Paul, as far as I remember the 34a you refer to was their shed location & service depot. It was a small circular disc in the front of the loco. 34a if my memory is correct was for LNER north London depot around Hornsey or Finsbury Park. There were others all over the country like, Doncaster, Edinburgh, and York. It was one of out greatest delights to try & get into the sheds without being caught to see the loco’s stabled. If you got caught it was big trouble.
ALL of them? 4469 Sir ralph Wedgewood was damage beyone repair during an air raid at York. There's a British Transport film of The Elizabethan memorable mostly for its utterly awful doggerel voiceover but worth watching and on YT. My dad tells me the first time he ever went to Kings Cross he saw Mallard. Hope you enjoyed the film.
It was nice to see all 6 surviving a4s to line up next to each other for the first time ever since the 1960s with mallard still the record holder of 126mph 60009 60007 and 4464 still being seen on the mainline plus 60008 and 60010 both returned back from America
@@scotsmanproductions8224 Steam is not polluting but what generates the steam is. Burning coal is a major greenhouse gas producer. There's a lot of CO2 made. As well as carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons, NOX compounds, heavy metals, arsenic, cyanide, and varoius carcinogens. So yes, coal smoke as emitted by steam locomotives along with steam is *very* polluting.
Thanks for your reply MG John. l think if Sir Nigel was of this age he would be referred to as a Visionary. A local here in Herts told me he lived nearby, whilst serving the LNER, at Watton at Stone which is on the Hertford loop. Think a Blue Plaque is overdue!
Mallard's got her feet up at the NRM at the moment but you speak as if the others have disppeared. UoA is in steam and I believe Bittern is scheduled to be returned to steam. Per your other comment I was born too late to see steam in regular service so I'm something of a Diesels fan but I admit that kettles do have an indefineable grace that modern traction can't match. Don't worry Deltics- I still love you. Thank you for your comment and sorry not to have noted it earlier.
It would GREAT to see iconic loco's back together again. By chance is the Eisenhower back here now or still away . Would be great to see as well as all other A4s. Nice footage of these grand old Beasties
I don't know where "here" is but both Dominion of Canada and Dwight D. Eisenhower are the property of museums in Canada and the US respectively and were shipped back to their owners not so long after this was filmed. Glad you enjoyed the film.
I am sure that those who have the love of trains planes will have the love of Great Britain post Brixit. . To keep our country safe and remain GREAT. I am now too old to help but I cry for my country in her time of need. Take care all you people
How have trains in the UK become so bad. Such fantastic trains, and then you see that Northern Metro train on other line, how did it ccome to that. People in years to come, looking back at this video will wonder, which is the older train. Great video.
Somehow the idea that a good railway network is an asset whether or not it makes money in its own right just doesn't seem to sink in. Its easy to argue that the railways need to make money on their own terms or, at least, cost the taxpayers less and indeed that's not unfair but ignores how much it costs to repair or widen roads that get hammered by thousands of cars and lorries which wouldn't be on the roads if the railways had more capacity- a bill that road tax doesn't get anywhere near covering. Politicians though (of all colours) seem to see the railways as a large and ironically slow-moving target. Glad you enjoyed the film.
I'm a complete new and really excited to get into this hobby. what gauge would you suggest? I don't have heaps of room, and I would like to end up with sound and fine control over speed. Are the Hornby sets decent value or not ? loving your vids, sorry for all the question! thank you
If you mean model railways you're probably most familiar with OO Gauge (or HO if you're pretty much anywhere other than Britain). N-Gauge is about half the scale of OO/HO so takes up roughly a quarter of the room and can accept DCC chips with sound which is surprisingly effective given the size of the speakers. Not cheap though. I've been getting into Train Simulator on my PC and have dozens of routes and many different trains from different countries (mostly Britain since that's what I'm interested you won't be surprised to learn) all of which has cost me no more than one model loco' with DCC sound! I love model railways but the cost is eye-watering these days and no layout is going to be big enough to represent even the even the shortest route I have never mind the thousands of miles my whole collection covers. Hope you enjoyed the film of these decidedly _not_ model loco's.
If I was wealthy I would build a museum, next to a private railway line, to celebrate the life of Sir Nigel Gresley and his team. Of course the surviving A4s would be there in the flesh.
Sir Nigel Gresley is still undergoing an extensive overhaul at the National Railway Museum in York. I saw bits of her piled up around the workshop there a couple of years ago and, of course, the pandemic has hindered progress. Last I knew Bittern was out of service and waiting her turn for overhaul.
Oh I don't know about that- there may not be the demand for high speed rail but there's some outstanding railway engineering in New Zealand like the Midland Line.
My dad told me the first time he ever went to Kings Cross Mallard was on one of the trains waiting to depart. I don't have any great nostalgia for the steam age since it ended when I was a tot but I can appreciate steam loco's and this event was quite something. I hope you enjoyed the video. Flying Scotsman was at Shildon a while ago and I got on the footplate for a bit then left via the corridor tender just as I had done some 40-odd years ago in Birmingham. I could've walked down the corridor with a top hat on then but could barely get through it the other day.
Amazing video and I wouldn't worry about view points, you captured them perfectly. Its a shame that they didn't paint one of them in the Silver Livery, This I believe is the best livery for this class, and it would have been perfect as this is the colour they were first let loose on the Silver Jubilee Trains. Thankyou so much for sharing this. I am serving in the RAF and was overseas in the Middle East at the time so didn't get a chance to witness any of these events. I saw so much news footage, but this video captures the moment far better than any news clips.
IIRC none of the A4s that originally carried the silver livery (the first four or five I think) survives in preservation so it would be inauthentic- Bittern did go around disguised as Silver Link for a while and at least one person I know was quite huffy about it. Then again some people get up in arms about Flying Scotsman not being in LNER green- a livery she never carried as an A3. I'm very glad this film continues to be enjoyed. My aim was very much to give some impression of what the event was like.
I know what you mean. Bittern looked fantastic in Silver. A friend of mine models eastern regeion around Newcastle in the 60's. He has repainted a P2 in original guise but in BR Green. These were rebuilt long before they were BR green, but like he says, it's his train set and he does what he wants. Its good to see the preserved locos in different liveries.
@@TimRuffle You are right, the first 4 carried the Silver livery, Silver Link, Quick Silver, Silver King and Silver Fox. Those 4 were released the same time as the Silver Jubilee train
Truly Magnificent, To see Those A4 Engines .Wish I'd been there, & The turn Out of People again all credit, It just goes to show how Popular those steam Engine's are still after thay were Replaced with Electric & Diesels engine's, Again, Thanks to all those Guys & Ladies for supporting this Magnificent Day ? Dam it i Missed this Magnificent event, 😢
TBH Deltics are my favourite loco's perhaps because I grew up just after steam was withdrawn and, although I only saw them in the last six months of their service lives, they made an indelible impression. This event really was quite something though.
I went to the great gathering July 2013 in York Museum. I was so excited and beside myself..forever grateful I got to sit in the drivers seat of Mallard..my favourite 💜💜 Can we put this beautiful A4 back on the line one day? ..Karen
They'll never do it, I'm afraid. Last time I heard someone at the museum asked, their reply was that, due to 'currency and continuity' of the original parts, and lack of safety certificate for the boiler, it would effectively mean a complete disassembly, and replacement of almost all parts, meaning whatever took to the rails in that shape would no longer be Mallard, but effectively a replica. Add to that the whopping surcharges and carbon levies on coal these days, means that these beasts are becoming impossibly expensive to run.
APT-E: “hello what’s this? A gathering of the A4’s?” Mallard: “OI! Union Of South Africa, it’s APT-E!” 60009: “LMAO, don’t even talk to us kid, we’re years ahead of you”
By the age of ten I was sick and tired of trains! My parents volunteered on a railway and spent my early years either on trains or hunting for 'ghost trains' or stations following every part of the M&GN lines most weekends! . Now I wish I'd taken more of an interest as I appreciate how special this event was historically and I only just found out it even happened! Thanks for sharing this, great video and clearly much hard work has gone into the editing, great job!
The A4 are only a little bit smaller than the PRR K4s. That has me wondering what type of performance gains would the class see if they were to be fitted with stokers. When the PRR did a trial with two K4s being fitted with stokers, it was shown that there was a significant increase in pulling power and fuel economy.
Just seen this video on UA-cam. The thought that was constant concerned the sight of a subdued, intensely powerful, Beautiful machine reduced to tugging 3 brake wagons about in order to beg for crumbs!.. At the very least couldn't there have been a couple of coaches available? That way the begging could have been for crusts! OR. Nowt to tug at all and be proud!!!
You could also see it as showing off to fans during a graceful retirement. I'm not sure a coach would be a better option- you couldn't stand on the veranda and get a faceful of steam if you so wished for example.
Nothing wrong with goods brake vans. Locos not begging for crumbs. Enthusiasts prefer goods brake vans see more of the locomotive . You're comment is rather stupid.
2509 in almost original condition. Only difference from 1935 is the lengthening of the front buffer shanks and the subsequent bringing forward of the front coupling and vacuum pipe.
It'd be nice. Next to most US rolling stock you'd probably have to look twice to spot the loco'. Is she back next to the Big Boy at the US Railway Museum? I'm told she looked like a toy in comparison.
Yes it came back, an A4 might be smaller than most modern American steam. but i wouldn't say that if anything 19th century locomotives are like toys small and cute.
What a wonderful video under such atrocious conditions, Tim. And your editing is impeccable. And aren't some people totally obnoxious, selfishly getting in the way? I think I'd go nuts. Anyway, I'm so glad a friend and I at least visited York and Shildon the previous year, although in my youth I had often travelled up to King's Cross from Hampshire and have pleasant memories of those steam-filled heydays. I've been in Germany since 1965 and thus enjoyed steam for a couple more years longer, but nothing is made to last, which is why your videos are of so much value. Many thanks and I look forward to more once Corona is beaten. Stay healthy! p.s. you share the same surname as a good friend of mine, who was for a few years Britain's if not Europe's oldest service air traffic controller!
Thank you. My grumbling was a bit tongue in cheek- I think everybody and his uncle has a camera or camera 'phone these days so it's unreasonable to expect everyone to keep out of everyone else's shots- though it doesn't hurt to try. Perhaps the camera itself makes a difference- I remember filming at Durham Miner's Gala in the '90s with my old MS4, a consumer level model but an impressive looking full-size S-VHS camera, and people were trampling their children to get out of my way. My dad told me the first time he ever went to King's Cross he saw Mallard. Is your friend from Essex? It's not an uncommon surname there but I've never met another Ruffle anywhere else.
When this happened i was 6 and i didn't know that i was attending the last time theyd be together in one place. I went on two days with my parents. Its ashame i only saw dominion of canada and dwight d eisenhower when that took place. It was beautiful though to see.😢 where has time gone....
Restoring Mallard to running order for the 75th anniversary was discussed at the NRM. The argument agains doing so was, in a nutshell, "We're already restoring the most famous locomotive in the world [Flying Scotsman of course]- it would be foolish to compete with ourselves by restoring the second most famous." I do see the point. Of course the restoration of Flying Scotsman dragged on and on long past the anniversary soaking up millions of pounds which raises another point- there's little of the original locomotive left now. I genuinely think there's a case for giving the original loco's a dignified and well-earned retirement and build replicas which, in Flying Scotsman's case anyway, would probably not cost much more than her restoration.
As an American I am absolutely jealous of British steam locomotives. Hoping there’s a time where I can go visit some day and hopefully take a ride on one
The US never really had a need for anything like this but it has produced some magnificent loco's. Personally I love a big honest freight lugger like the Standard Class 9F or the old Q6s and Q7s that were ubiquitous in this area and I'd add the Big Boy and a few other splendid US kettles to the list.
I’m just not a fan of how industrious our locomotives look. I much prefer the sleek elegance of British locomotives. Or perhaps I’m just biased. I mean, I enjoy the Q1s more than any American locomotive.
I assume you mean the Southern Railway Q1 which is a very different animal from the North Eastern heavy freight loco's. The LNER had a letter/number system for its loco's where the letter referred to the wheel arrangement with different classes designated by number so A was 4-6-2 Pacifics including the A4s here of course. Q was applied to 0-8-0 loco's. O.V.S. Bullied (SR Chief Mechanical Engineer) was quite forward thinking and interested in Continental and US practice adopting anything he thought would make his loco's easier to build and maintain. This was especially true of his Q1 built under Austerity conditions during the War. The class has never been chiefly admired for its aesthetics over here.
I do mean the “Ugly Duckling” in this case. I can appreciate it for what it is, even though it’s not the most appealing locomotive ever built. I’m not sure why I can enjoy them over our own industrial locomotives, but I guess it’s how I view it. I’ve always been impressed with the way British locomotive designers worked around problems. Over here, we usually just made our engines bigger until it did what we wanted it to. It made them look too ugly for my liking. Sorry if I seem childish in my remarks
US produced some of most powerful Steam Locomotives in the world, they had to be as even steam locomotives pulled nearly a mile in freight cars. The Baldwin 2-6-6-2T tractive effort was 38,000. Boiler pressure 200, was used to haul Red Wood Logs. Think of the weight of uncured red logs. Bolt right up to 1929. I won't argue against British Steam, but American Steam is no slouch. Maybe you should study American Rail. I'm enjoying learning about British Rail. Cousin cross the Sea.
You know what they should do is offer rides on these trains with period cars in town, onj say the London, manchester, or where ever urban lines say on Friday nights and several times during the weekend. That would stop the engines from corroding up all the pistons, boiler tubes and pushrods. I'm sure if they picked a route that took people on a scenic route where trains don't usually go, it'd be a hit. Especially on balmy summer nights with all the windows open! Set the price like fairly modest say like 40 to 80 quid per head but not out of reach of the general punter. They could have a compere addressing the passengers via a PA system in each carriage and they could go past places of vintage railway importance and the MC could explain the significance. I'd love to go on a country steam tour departing from London central station , maybe going thru the lakes district and co,ming back and led by a Deltic or a Flying Scotsman type steamer with a Bevy of vintage carriages in tow. They could even allow some drinks and finger food on board and have a DJ playing up front Dance music or classics. Just a pipe dream from me, but It's 10x better than letting them sit and rot in some yard and ending up needing a full aesthetic rebuild due to lack of use. What say people?
Union of South Africa and Bittern do run rail-tours and and the only reason Sir Nigel is only out of action because her boiler certificate ran out. She usually runs regularly on the NYMR. It's in the nature of steam restoration to replace a great deal of the the locomotive- even parts of Flying Scotsman's frames were replaced at the last hidiously expensive overhaul. There's a good case for letting these 80 years old loco's retire gracefully in musuems perhaps replaced on the rails with new build replicas.
shoominati23 You could have been on a steam railtour out of London yesterday with LMS Jubilee class 45699 Galatea, and up around Appleby in Cumbria, you'd have passed 60009 Union of South Africa & another Jubilee 45690 Leander coming the other way hauling tours from Bristol & York 😉 I was on the latter... Was hoping for 46233 Dutchess of Sutherland instead of a Jubilee, but you can't have it all!
There's more. Hands up all those like me "bunked" Kings X MPD and others to see these magnificent machines quietly hissing away waiting for the next fast tour of duty up Norf? Guilty M'Lud... When I did this there were no staff to be seen anywhere. Other Motive Power Depots ( I visited most ) always had staff on hand to chase you off. Never caught though. Very fit and nippy in my late teens and with my Triumph Motor Cycles ( The Triumphs like those A4s, 3s,2s etc .. More Tru-Brit Steel ) As a Nation we used to make some half-decent stuff and them some ~ where did it all go right?
Maybe I'm biased but I'd have to agree though there certainly are some handsome US kettles and most have an impressively purposeful look about them. Glas you enjoyed the film.
Stripe me- so you are. 300! That's... good isn't it? Do I get a prize or something? :-). Do I owe you a prize? :-( Seriously- glad you enjoyed the film. I'd still have to rate Deltic's as my favourites but I certainly can't argue with your choice- or anyone elses really. (Pacers aren't anyone's favourites are they?)
@@TimRuffle they always say the north is inflicted with pacers and the south gets newer locomotives, however the pacer can be found in the southwest. where the journey time from Plymouth to Paddington has reduced by half an hour since the days of steam. 3 and a half hours for quick train down to 3 hours. The king or castle averaging over 60 miles an hour.
@@alexwright6038 In spite of my slight dig I can't really find it in my heart to knock Pacers. Once the teething troubles were sorted out they fulfilled the aim of being cheap to run and there are a few branch lines that may have been closed without them. A few years ago I was told by someone at the Weardale Railway (which runs from Bishop aucklond on up Weardale) that they wouldn't have been able to afford to run a service without their Class 141. It has to be admited that they are well past their best-before date though (and the thought that Pacers now count as heritage stock makes me feel quite old). Sorry not to have noted your comment earlier.
The A4's Whistle... the best in the known Universe... probably. I'm old enough to have seen these babies in action on the ECML many moons ago... and the Deltics including the blue prototype. Youngsters today up in their bedrooms on the play stations etc, don't know theyze born as we say dahn sarf ... oh and ooop norf.
I fully agree about the whistle, although the sound is dual toned, almost 'American', I prefer it to the standard British one. Heard in the distance, it is very haunting.
@@MrDaiseymay Despite that Philip, my all time favourite steam Locomotives are the LMS Coronation Class Pacifics on the WCML. To my ears, they had a very poor "ugly" sounding "whistle" more like a poor factory workers end of shift change noise... I was twelve when standing on Tamworth High Level as the Mid-Day Scot northbound flashed through. 46237 City of Bristol. That was the very first time I saw one of Stanier's magnificent machines at high speed. Those Four Cylinders ( one more than the A4's ) mean eight power pulses for every rotation of those big driving wheels. Those power pulses and their exhausting sounds merge into one continuous glorious sound at high speed. A sound as impressive as any Formula 1 Racing Car ... but not as impressive as Mike Hailwood's magnificent Honda Six Grand Prix machine all of which I had the pleasure of seeing and hearing in action back in those now far away days. Sir William Stanier had a thoroughbred background. I believe he learnt his design skills whilst he was at Swindon. The origin and home of the Four Cylinder Kings and Castles all of which I have seen at high speed back in the day. Yes, marvellous memories long gone but never forgotten. It's fifty years since Concord first flew. Saw one of the prototypes above my home several times when it was being assessed at nearby Fairford prior to entering service. Droop snoop and ungainly undercarriage deployed on those early test flights whilst literally hanging about low in the sky overhead. A4s, Coronation Pacifics, Concord you name it.... Us Brits used to make some fine stuff. Where did it all go right? ...Meantime.. . Youngsters today don't know theyze born as we used to say down south,, oh yes, and up north... :) Cue my young sons asking... Did you really go to work on a steam train Dad? Yes son, many times. "You must be very old"... :doh:... ;-)
@@T16MGJ Not sure you entirely right about the four cylinders. Typically* in a four cylinder loco' the cylinders, which I'll number 1 (outside left), 2, 3 (both together inside the frames) and 4 (outside right), work in pairs so 1 and 3 are in sync with each other as are 2 and 4. I imagine this evens the stresses out across the driving axle and it also means that you only need two sets of valves- one for each pair of cylinders. Like a two cylinder loco' though they would still chuff at four beats to the bar. * Not including compound designs.
I think that 'Clanking' sound is from the injector valve that feeds water from the Tender into the Boiler and in an ingenious way and it operates even if the Locomotive is stationary. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Injector
6 a4s remain as of 2022. Out of 35, only six. No one really in-depth looks into a4s. The average train guy only knows the a4 for mallards speed record. My grandfather was around at the time that mallard and her class was grand spanking new. My favorite a4 is number 60009 which also appeared in this video at 4:43 I love engines like this. Scotsman mey have 2 tenders and be the main character in the steam engine trilogy that started in 1800 but she will never be the best. The a4s will always manage to outshine her.
Fair enough and I dare say you are quite responsible as are the majority of dog owners but at least one dog I saw seemed quite scared of the loco's. I'd no more have taken a dog that wasn't at least somewhat accustomed to trains to this event than I would take one to a fireworks display. Of course I was lugging my video gear around so I wouldn't have anyway. We'd had a dog (Budge, a Bearded Collie) for some years before we moved to Durham and our first home in this area was in Durham City in a house overlooking the ECML. I'm not sure he had ever seen a train before we moved but after a while, with me and Dad both at least looking around when anything went past and occasionally leaping to our feet and grabbing binoculars, Budge started watching too. He seemed to pay particular attention to the 125s IIRC. Best dog ever.
I needed to know why they don’t dig a tunnel and do an extension for the main line Train so that they can extend the unused abandoned underground train stations. Why couldn’t they use the part D78 Stock train doors on the sides and also restructure the front face of the A60 and A62 stock and that includes the class 313, class 314 and class 315 remix and make them all together and also redesign them an overhead line and also make them into Five cars per units and also having three Disabled Toilets on those Five cars per units A60 and A62 stock trains and also convert the A60 and A62 stock trains into a Scania N112, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Engines and also put the Loud 7-Speed Voith Gearboxes even Loud 8-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Gearboxes in the A60 and A62 stock, class 313, class 314, and class 315 and also modernise the A60 and A62 stock and make it into an 11 car per unit so it could have fewer doors, more tables, computers and mobile phone chargers. A Stock Trains and also having 8 Disabled Toilets on those A stock trains. why couldn’t we refurbish and modernise the Waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel and make it more Larger and extend it to the bank station, making it into a Triple-Track Railway Line so those Five countries such as Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden to convert the waterloo and city line Triple-Track Railway tunnel into a High-Speed Railway lines? The Third Euro tunnel Triple-Track Railway line to make it 11 times better for passengers so they could go from A to B. Then put the modernised 11 car per unit A Stock and put them on a bigger modernised Waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel so it could go to bank station to those Five countries such as Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. The modernised refurbished 11 cars per unit A stock could be a High Speed The Third Triple-Track Euro Tunnel Train So it is promising and 47 times a lot more possible to do this kind of project if that will be OK for London Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. oh by the way, could they also tunnel the Triple-Track Railway Line so it will stop from Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex so that the Passengers will go to Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland and Sweden and also extend the Triple-Track Railway Line from the Bank to Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex Stations so that more people from there could go to Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden more Easily. Why couldn't they extend the Piccadilly Line and also build brand-new underground train stations so it could go even further right up to Clapton, Wood Street can they also make another brand new underground train station in Chingford and could they extend the Piccadilly Line and the DLR right up to Chingford? All of the classes 150, 155, 154, 117, 114, 105, and 106, will be replaced by all of the Scania N112, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Five carriages three disabled toilets are air conditioning trains including Highams Park for extended roots which is the Piccadilly line and the DLR trains. Could you also convert all of the 1973 stock trains into an air-conditioned maximum speed 78 km/hours (48 MPH) re-refurbished and make it into a 8 cars per unit if that will be alright, and also extend all of the Piccadilly train stations to make more space for all of the extended 8 car per unit 1973 stock air condition trains and can you also build another Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive Companies and can they order Every 37 Octagon and Every 17 Hexagon shape LNER diagram unique small no.13 and unique small no.11 Boilers from those Countries such as Greece, Italy, Poland, and Sweden, can they make Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive speeds by up to 142MPH so you can try and test it on the Original Mainline so it will be much more safer for the Passengers to enjoy the 142MPH speed Limit only for HS2 and Channel Tunnel mainline services, if they needed 16 Carriages Per units, can they use those class 55’s, class 44’s, class 40’s and class 43HST Diesel Locomotive’s right at the Back of those 18 Carriages Per Units so they can take over at the Back to let those Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s have a rest for those interesting Journeys Please!!!!!!!, oh can you make all of those Coal Boxes’s 17 Tonnes for all of those 142MPH Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s so the Companies will Understand us PASSENGER’S!! so please make sure that the Builders can do as they are told!!!! And please do something about these very very important Professional ideas Please? Prime Minister of England, Prime Minister of Australia, Prime Minister of Sweden, Prime Minister of Germany, Prime Minister of Italy, Prime Minister of Poland and that Includes the Mayor of London.
these locomotives are the epitome of steam traction in the U K they should be kept together to ensure that least two of them are steamable at any one time NOT sitting in a museum overseas gathering dust and rust
It's great to see them running around but that does cause a certain amount of wear and tear so there is an argument for putting them in a museum- preferably after a replica has been built to take their place on the main line though. There are three in working order or being returned to steam so I personally can't begrudge the North American museums their specimens which would have gone to scrap otherwise. Thank you for your comment and sorry not to have noted it earlier.
@@TimRuffle Sadly there will only be two working examples shortly. Once UOSA boiler ticket expires it will be retired permanently to a Scottish museum. Sir Nigel is nearly overhauled and Bittern is waiting it's turn to be overhauled.
@@bryemycaz There's an argument that running these loco's wares them out. How much of the original Flying Scotsman is actually left these days. Perhaps there comes a time when these machines have earned a graceful retirement. Shame though.
What about HMS Victory. Timbers are replaced so frequently that I doubt that there's a square inch left of the ship that Nelson knew. But is she still Victory? Of course she is. And the same goes for our steam heritage too.
There is now a new version of this video with longer lasting captions for those of you who have commented that they go by too quickly for reasons explained below but also can't read text on paused video due to platform limitations.
I took my dad here shortly before he passed away , he stood next to the mallard and said , I stood next to it as a young lad , now I'm standing next to it as an old man
Funny ... what elderly parents have to do to please their grownup children.
keplermission wow you seem like a dick
@@JimbobsTransportVideos yeah ngl
Itz Rookie808 thank you sir for not lying the world is saved!
@@keplermission Maybe you will one day develop some wisdom, but I wouldn't count on it.
Thanks for your reply regarding The Deltic engines, 😊,
I was born in Cape Town, South Africa in 1943, and I remember so well the wonderful steam engines which ran from Cape Town Central down to Simon's Town in our beautiful Cape Peninsula. My parents would take me to Wynberg Station, very near to where we lived, to watch the steamers chuff slightly uphill towards Cape Town and return, almost celebrating the hard uphill run. My Scottish Granny would say that during their uphill run the engines would say "I think I can, I think I can, I think I can" and on the downhill run they would say "I knew I could, I knew I could, I knew I could". I have never forgotten this wonderful Chuffing Song, and I am 80 years old. Also, it's so great to see the magnificent Spirit of South Africa in real life, although so far away! Well done to all who keep these giants of steam alive!!!
Pure style!
Well done Sir Nigel Gresley, you created icons.
Beautiful to see these A4s together and looking so splendid. I would love to see one of them in the original Silver Jubilee colors, especially with matching rolling stock. That must have been a glorious sight in the day !
They did repaint one of them (Bittern I think) years ago.
It's good to remember these wonderful machines, the engineering that went into making them and yes they were not very economic to run but it's all Britain had and they worked tirelessly throughout the war years, I just love the smell of locomotives in steam and I'm fortunate to live close to the steam preservation here in Ireland so see steam quite often and it never fails to make me smile when I see them in steam
Paid for by the British Empire, Australia, Canada, India, and Africa. Today Rishi Sunak looks set to replace the likes of Churchill as Prime Minister of the UK.
Where is that ? I also live in Ireland and would like to see them, Im always googling to see where I can go see some steam locos but never get lucky.
@@techbysteff4829there's a railway museum at Whitehead, Carrickfergus, NI
To put this in context, it's like getting all the surviving Concords and putting them in one place
Or all of the surviving Canadian Pacific 4-4-0's, which I'd really love to see...
2:27 Bittern emerging from the steam looks wicked
One of the better shots I think- glad I caught it. I hope you enjoyed the whole film.
Nonsense. She looks like a fairy!
Indeed, they were the most elegantly beautiful engines I ever saw!
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What an exquisite video-beautifully filmed and more importantly benefiting from classy editing- not to mention the often amusing observations in the commentary!
Thank you very much. I actually enjoy editing much more than filming.
A truly amazing spectacle. Well done to everyone involved who arranged it.
I have to say that for all the crowds etc, when you finally had clear vision of the locomotives, you're focus and framing was excellent. loved it.
Thank you very much. There are many hours of out-takes.
Mr Nigel would have been pleased. You guys did him Proud Well done to you All.
👍from a dirty diesel lover.
I know- you can't read that fast...
When I posted this it was possible to add pauses in UA-cam. Since I don't have that fast a connection I took advantage of this by keeping the text screens to a couple of seconds which significantly reduced the size of the video file and thus the amount of time it took to upload which was already hours. UA-cam has since removed this feature and now has removed the pauses.
It should be easy enough to pause the video but a comment from WashingtonSAFC (below) revealed to me that UA-cam applications on some devices (for no doubt excvellent reasons) obscure part of the screen making them illegible. The captions have now been reproduced in the video description which I hope will make them accessible to more viewers.
If you pause a video now (whilst casting onto your TV, which is the way I watch videos, at least), a stupid block of black screen covers the bottom about 50/60% of the screen. So pausing it would be futile, now.. Some recent 'improvement' to the UA-cam app, it's no doubt classed as..
I was there on the Wednesday, what a glorious sight. I found this video by total accident/good luck. I wasn't searching for it, it just showed up on my feed,, pleased it did.
@@WashingtonSAFC I wonder what whoever designed the YouYube App on your telly thought its users needed a pause button for- massive own goal. As you were there I doubt there's much in the text you don't already know. I'm still not keen to spend several hours reposting the vid' but but I'll reproduce the text in the pinned comment for anyone in the same boat.
I'm glad that you could enjoyed the film anyway, thank you for your comment, and hope it didn't spoilt things too much.
@@TimRuffle Oh dear, it's not a "UA-cam app on my tele", it's watching a video on my tele whilst playing it on my mobile and casting it via Google Chromecast.
It happens with my OnePlus 9, my LG, the Missus OnePlus 8.
And it happens on our new 55" Toshiba in the living room, our 43" JVC in the bedroom, our 40" JVC in our caravan.
Using 3 different Chromecast dongles, each in a different device, from the two latest generations of Chromecast (Bearing in mind, if it's Chromecast that's the problem - and not the mobile phones, the various TVs, or your unfeasible writing - it's probably fair to say that Chromecast is probably the most common casting device, so it's also fair to say that it's not just me that has the problem with your video).
@@WashingtonSAFC Regardless of the device being used blanking half the screen when a video is paused is daft. Anyway- I've repeated the captions in the description which, I hope, will make them more accessible.
@@WashingtonSAFC I've bitten the bullet and posted a version of this video with the captions on screen for longer. Hope this is helpful.
Thank you for this film and don’t be sad a lot of kids wills have seen the anniversary and if not been immediately converted to steam addicts will now appreciate a piece of their industrial heritage
Hope you have a wonderful retirement, Union Of South Africa!
There’s actually a rarely seen 7th A4 in existence. She was built at Warren Truck Assembly in Warren Michigan and is now owned and operated by my family. Painstakingly repainted in LNER Garter Blue, she is America’s Mallard.
I've Googled that to no avail- is there anything on the .net about it?
@@TimRuffle soon. She is owned by me, and she is being revealed on July 29th 2023 to mark the Tenth Anniversary of my favorite movie.
Thank you for this, the affection the British public have for our heritage is wonderful, I remember these ladies as a kid, thank goodness we someone had the nownce to preserve such wonder, thanks again for a wonderful video.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for your comment- sorry not to have noted it earlier. My dad told me the first time he ever went to Kings Cross Mallard was there.
I cabbed mallard at kings cross station 65 years ago.See all the A4s except William Whitelaw who for some reason never came down south.
My Dad told me that the first time he ever went to Kings Cross Mallard was there. I don't recall him mentioning the date. Hope you enjoyed the film.
Proud to be a Brit when I see this
impossible not to say the streaks were absolutely beautiful!
It's possible. Wrong but possible.
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Impossible not to say the claimed 126 mph land speed record. What happened to Britain? They were never as good as they'd hoped and today cricket scores have much to tell.
@@keplermission Britain ruled a hug chunk of Earth and civilised it though now most of those former colonies is pretty barbaric.
Absolutely stunning video. Big Thank You for the addition of text information.
Beautiful day I had there. I got the photo of them all but also the video is great. Thanks.👍🇬🇧
Thank you for documenting this, what an event celebrating these magnificent engines
Thank you for commenting- glad you enjoyed the film.
Still nothing to compare with watching these wonderful engines at speed during their working lifetime for BR. Many of them used to go thrashing through East and West Ardsley (between Leeds and Wakefield) on a regular basis, and to stand by the track side, separated only by a wooden fence was the REAL experience, never to be forgotten.
Thanks for the comment. Nothing to really compare with your memories here I'm afraid but I hope you enjoyed the film.
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I know how you feel Ron
Our fave was a few miles north of Grantham on the Elizabethan Going full chat .That was the best chance of seeing the Scottish A4s. Grantham was also a good place for the north eastern streaks as it was a turn round to return north . Another thing about Grantham many ex plant Pacific's were run in from Doncaster before returning .
I agree with your sentiments but the Leeds-Wakefield rail line does/did not run through West Ardsley. On the other side of the line from East Ardsley station to the sheds at the Falls is the village of Thorpe (on-the hill). West Ardsley is at least a mile away (past Ambler's Mill across Bradford Rd.). Nonetheless you are correct that we could see all these great locos not least because of the sheds. Both my granddads were drivers and lived in Thorpe. My mum's dad took Mallard from Leeds to the Ardsley sheds for a re-fit sometime in the 50s and gave my dad a ride on the footplate from Beeston.
Proper locomotives
I was born just before the end of steam and my memory doesn't go so far back so I make no apology for liking Diesels and shall yield to no-one in my love for Deltics. That having been said I think you have to have something amiss between the ears not to appreciate Sir Nigel's finest to some extent.
TimRuffle
You can keep your Deltics mate. I am sorry for you for missing out on the thrill of an A4 sounding off a mile before a station such as Grantham. The lads calling out " streak streak " The A4s in that BR green. By the way the colour of Union doesn't look quite right. My mate and I stood on Peterborough when Mallard stopped on an up passenger. The crew made our day by allowing us on the footplate .Those Were the days.nut
Sorry your comment didn't appear straight away- can't see why but it was flagged as spam by UA-cam.
I will keep the Deltics thank you very much. I only saw them for about six months in traffic long after they were demoted to secondary services by the HSTs but they still made quite an impression. You can certainly hear a Deltic coming from a mile away and it never ceases to thrill me but I can assure you I derive no little pleasure from hearing and seeing a big kettle. I can't criticize anyone for favouring an A4 and hope you can agree with me that they're both great machines.
There's a subtle difference between Union of South Africa and Dwight D. Eisenhower perhaps just because Dwight has a new paint job. There could be quite a lot of variation between individual loco's with supposedly standard liveries.
Hope you enjoyed the film.
TimRuffle
great film must agree. Deltic v A4 don't agree also the colour of Union is deffo wrong. All the same you done a great job. Cheers Bobby.
@@MrsBobby-gy5of TimRuffle exactly the same happened to me on Peterborough North in the late fifties. I was standing on my own at the end of the platform on a Saturday morning drooling at Mallard when the driver asked me if I wanted to come up onto on the footplate. I can still feel the heat and smell the smell sixty years later!
Nothing is like watching a steam loco at speed and slowly moving
Beautifully filmed, and like me your frustration boils over when organisers exercise a lack of thought when placing trucks and vans.
Thank you. To be fair Locomotion was planned as a storage shed for the NRM before someone pointed out that opening it to the public would help meet the Museum's obligations to keep a certain percentage of the National Collection on display (and probably added "why not?"). I don't think much changed in the plans and it has always attracted many more visitors than were expected so everything has always been a bit improvised. It appears some big changes are in the works so here's hoping for some improvements.
Thank you for your comment and sorry not to have noted it earlier.
So beautiful it bought tears to my eyes
What a great event that was, best event the NRM has ever held and certainly the best event ever held at shildon since 1975. Glad i was there every day for that, you even got me on camera a few times lol.
She's very endearing, and very elegant at the same time.
Absolutely wonderful.
Great video and I got to see the 6 A4's there too.
Thank you- I'm glad you enjoyed it. There was a teriffic atmosphere with lots of families and casual visitors there and I hope I captured some sense of it.
The unloading off the trailer .... didn't expect that ! Brilliant !
Various scenes in this video make it even more precious.
2:26 Bittern emerging from the steam looks awesome
Exceptional photography, wonderful to view.
Thank you very much for your kind words.
All designed on paper, probably in clouds of pipe-smoke haha. What a wonderful set of engines, sad that we will never see this gathering again.
There was wind tunnel testing with a Plasticene model. Apparently aerodynamics were fine but smoke clearance was non-existant (a problem never solved with the LMS's Princess Coronation streamliners) until someone picked up the model non too carefully and left a dent behind the chinmy where his thumb had squashed it out of shape. Out of desperation the model was tested anyway and suddenly smoke clearance was excellent- better than previous efforts with "semi-streamlining" and smoke deflectors as seen on the W1 and first P2s all of which were soon rebuilt with A4 style streamlining. Hope you liked the film.
Saw them all in service in the 50’s at Kings Cross station where I spent my youth!
My dad told me that the first time he ever went to Kings Cross he saw Mallard. Hope you liked the film.
@@TimRuffle Sure did Tim. I was brought up in Holborn just up the road from Kings Cross/St Pancras/Euston stations. I was at senior school in Kings Cross 1957-62 so was able before school/lunch times & after to enjoy the steam era then run by British Rail. A 1d (penny) would buy you a platform ticket unless you knew the ropes & went to platform 10 which was between the main line platforms & suburban platforms. It had the best view as it was also opposite the coaling & water point that had a turntable as well to turn the engines for a return trip up north. That was in the day we had porters on the platforms & the station master always had a big coal fire burning in the grate in his office in winter. My school master (Mr Myers) always said if I paid as much attention to my school work as I did the trains I would make something of myself. He somehow got me tickets to the unveiling of the first Diesels No 1000 & 1001 by British Rail at either Battersea or Nine Elms, it was a long time ago. This was the start of the Diesels & the end of the steam days. The A4's were every lads favourite, like Silver Link, King, Sparrowhawk, Mallard, Empress of India, Union of South Africa, William Whitelaw, Kestrel & many more. I saw the full class of locomotives except there may have been a couple lost during the war years. In them days they were all in BR Green livery with no wheel coverings. Happy Days.
Mallard was a 34A locomotive in the post-war years.
Paul Caswell
Hi Paul, as far as I remember the 34a you refer to was their shed location & service depot. It was a small circular disc in the front of the loco. 34a if my memory is correct was for LNER north London depot around Hornsey or Finsbury Park. There were others all over the country like, Doncaster, Edinburgh, and York. It was one of out greatest delights to try & get into the sheds without being caught to see the loco’s stabled. If you got caught it was big trouble.
34A was King's Cross Top Shed. I was just remarking that Mallard would have been based at King's + and therefore would have been a common sight there!
Meanwhile,Sir Nigel Grestley looking down from heaven: oh look its my children,they seem to be having fun
Too bad over 20 of them are gone...
Poor bittern, the most underrated a4, but the most reliable old girl
I thought she looked great. Have you seen the video of her thundering through Doncaster at 90+?
@@TimRuffle yes I have
I don't think she 's Bitterne about it.
Went here with my dad when I were a lad. Remember it well and cherish it dearly.
I hope you enjoyed the film.
I saw all of the A4s in my train spotting days the last One I saw In BR service was 60011 Empire Of India Looking Immaculate on The Elizabethan 1961.
ALL of them? 4469 Sir ralph Wedgewood was damage beyone repair during an air raid at York. There's a British Transport film of The Elizabethan memorable mostly for its utterly awful doggerel voiceover but worth watching and on YT.
My dad tells me the first time he ever went to Kings Cross he saw Mallard. Hope you enjoyed the film.
ROFL!
It was nice to see all 6 surviving a4s to line up next to each other for the first time ever since the 1960s with mallard still the record holder of 126mph 60009 60007 and 4464 still being seen on the mainline plus 60008 and 60010 both returned back from America
I was pleased to hear Bittern was scrapped recently. Cut up on the quiet and the scrap sent for melting. A fitting end to a polluting loco.
@@pmonkeygeezer6212 bruh their legit called “steam engines” cause their powered by steam
@@scotsmanproductions8224 Steam is not polluting but what generates the steam is. Burning coal is a major greenhouse gas producer. There's a lot of CO2 made. As well as carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons, NOX compounds, heavy metals, arsenic, cyanide, and varoius carcinogens.
So yes, coal smoke as emitted by steam locomotives along with steam is *very* polluting.
@@pmonkeygeezer6212 it’s not like one engine scrap is gonna do the whole world everything
@@ethaneira3597 Yes, but it is burning fossil fuel. It's setting an example to cut these up and say *No* to fossil fuel burning.
Locomotion is a great place. It's the best thing about Shildon, narrowly beating any road that takes you out of Shildon.
Thanks for your reply MG John. l think if Sir Nigel was of this age he would be referred to as a Visionary. A local here in Herts told me he lived nearby, whilst serving the LNER, at Watton at Stone which is on the Hertford loop. Think a Blue Plaque is overdue!
R.I.P mallard and bittern and south Africa you will not be forgotten and were very useful locomotives
Mallard's got her feet up at the NRM at the moment but you speak as if the others have disppeared. UoA is in steam and I believe Bittern is scheduled to be returned to steam. Per your other comment I was born too late to see steam in regular service so I'm something of a Diesels fan but I admit that kettles do have an indefineable grace that modern traction can't match. Don't worry Deltics- I still love you.
Thank you for your comment and sorry not to have noted it earlier.
It would GREAT to see iconic loco's back together again. By chance is the Eisenhower back here now or still away . Would be great to see as well as all other A4s. Nice footage of these grand old Beasties
I don't know where "here" is but both Dominion of Canada and Dwight D. Eisenhower are the property of museums in Canada and the US respectively and were shipped back to their owners not so long after this was filmed.
Glad you enjoyed the film.
@@TimRuffle Here as in the UK Tim . Thanks for info , but it would be nice to have all A4s back together again att the NRMs
10 years late but that "pop-pop" sound is the squeak of each chuff
Union of South Africa, my grandfather used to work that engine when it was in service.
I am sure that those who have the love of trains planes will have the love of Great Britain post Brixit. . To keep our country safe and remain GREAT. I am now too old to help but I cry for my country in her time of need. Take care all you people
How have trains in the UK become so bad. Such fantastic trains, and then you see that Northern Metro train on other line, how did it ccome to that. People in years to come, looking back at this video will wonder, which is the older train. Great video.
Somehow the idea that a good railway network is an asset whether or not it makes money in its own right just doesn't seem to sink in. Its easy to argue that the railways need to make money on their own terms or, at least, cost the taxpayers less and indeed that's not unfair but ignores how much it costs to repair or widen roads that get hammered by thousands of cars and lorries which wouldn't be on the roads if the railways had more capacity- a bill that road tax doesn't get anywhere near covering. Politicians though (of all colours) seem to see the railways as a large and ironically slow-moving target. Glad you enjoyed the film.
The best engines ever built far better than the rubbish that is running today bring back the steam locomotives
you dont know shit why steam locos were replaced in the first place
I'm a complete new and really excited to get into this hobby. what gauge would you suggest? I don't have heaps of room, and I would like to end up with sound and fine control over speed. Are the Hornby sets decent value or not ? loving your vids, sorry for all the question! thank you
If you mean model railways you're probably most familiar with OO Gauge (or HO if you're pretty much anywhere other than Britain). N-Gauge is about half the scale of OO/HO so takes up roughly a quarter of the room and can accept DCC chips with sound which is surprisingly effective given the size of the speakers. Not cheap though. I've been getting into Train Simulator on my PC and have dozens of routes and many different trains from different countries (mostly Britain since that's what I'm interested you won't be surprised to learn) all of which has cost me no more than one model loco' with DCC sound! I love model railways but the cost is eye-watering these days and no layout is going to be big enough to represent even the even the shortest route I have never mind the thousands of miles my whole collection covers.
Hope you enjoyed the film of these decidedly _not_ model loco's.
Bittern is so quiet and graceful!
Graceful yes. Quiet? 8:55.
3:53 one of Tornado's volunteers; it's nice to see a familiar face :))
If I was wealthy I would build a museum, next to a private railway line, to celebrate the life of Sir Nigel Gresley and his team. Of course the surviving A4s would be there in the flesh.
Where is Sir Nigel Gresley and the Bittern kept now
Sir Nigel Gresley is still undergoing an extensive overhaul at the National Railway Museum in York. I saw bits of her piled up around the workshop there a couple of years ago and, of course, the pandemic has hindered progress.
Last I knew Bittern was out of service and waiting her turn for overhaul.
amazing bittern sounds like metal clicking though
Im from New Zealand and these Gresley a4s are phenomenal. In our own country our rail system was nothing but a joke and still is.
Oh I don't know about that- there may not be the demand for high speed rail but there's some outstanding railway engineering in New Zealand like the Midland Line.
You have some great routes especially Tranzalpine.
I'm green with jealousy! I went to York just to see (and touch!) the Mallard!
My dad told me the first time he ever went to Kings Cross Mallard was on one of the trains waiting to depart. I don't have any great nostalgia for the steam age since it ended when I was a tot but I can appreciate steam loco's and this event was quite something. I hope you enjoyed the video.
Flying Scotsman was at Shildon a while ago and I got on the footplate for a bit then left via the corridor tender just as I had done some 40-odd years ago in Birmingham. I could've walked down the corridor with a top hat on then but could barely get through it the other day.
Yea, strange how these corridors seem the shrink with time... just like my pants.
You think it shrank in the wash eh?
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Amazing video and I wouldn't worry about view points, you captured them perfectly. Its a shame that they didn't paint one of them in the Silver Livery, This I believe is the best livery for this class, and it would have been perfect as this is the colour they were first let loose on the Silver Jubilee Trains. Thankyou so much for sharing this. I am serving in the RAF and was overseas in the Middle East at the time so didn't get a chance to witness any of these events. I saw so much news footage, but this video captures the moment far better than any news clips.
@@paulcaswell2813 yes I remember that.
IIRC none of the A4s that originally carried the silver livery (the first four or five I think) survives in preservation so it would be inauthentic- Bittern did go around disguised as Silver Link for a while and at least one person I know was quite huffy about it. Then again some people get up in arms about Flying Scotsman not being in LNER green- a livery she never carried as an A3. I'm very glad this film continues to be enjoyed. My aim was very much to give some impression of what the event was like.
I know what you mean. Bittern looked fantastic in Silver. A friend of mine models eastern regeion around Newcastle in the 60's. He has repainted a P2 in original guise but in BR Green. These were rebuilt long before they were BR green, but like he says, it's his train set and he does what he wants. Its good to see the preserved locos in different liveries.
@@TimRuffle You are right, the first 4 carried the Silver livery, Silver Link, Quick Silver, Silver King and Silver Fox. Those 4 were released the same time as the Silver Jubilee train
Beautiful Art Deco train
Truly Magnificent, To see Those A4 Engines .Wish I'd been there, & The turn Out of People again all credit, It just goes to show how Popular those steam Engine's are still after thay were
Replaced with Electric & Diesels engine's,
Again, Thanks to all those Guys & Ladies for supporting this Magnificent Day ?
Dam it i Missed this Magnificent event, 😢
TBH Deltics are my favourite loco's perhaps because I grew up just after steam was withdrawn and, although I only saw them in the last six months of their service lives, they made an indelible impression. This event really was quite something though.
Excellent video.
Diesel Dude Railway got
Some things in this world, by their very nature, just demand attention.
I went to the great gathering July 2013 in York Museum. I was so excited and beside myself..forever grateful I got to sit in the drivers seat of Mallard..my favourite 💜💜
Can we put this beautiful A4 back on the line one day? ..Karen
They'll never do it, I'm afraid. Last time I heard someone at the museum asked, their reply was that, due to 'currency and continuity' of the original parts, and lack of safety certificate for the boiler, it would effectively mean a complete disassembly, and replacement of almost all parts, meaning whatever took to the rails in that shape would no longer be Mallard, but effectively a replica.
Add to that the whopping surcharges and carbon levies on coal these days, means that these beasts are becoming impossibly expensive to run.
APT-E: “hello what’s this? A gathering of the A4’s?”
Mallard: “OI! Union Of South Africa, it’s APT-E!”
60009: “LMAO, don’t even talk to us kid, we’re years ahead of you”
By the age of ten I was sick and tired of trains! My parents volunteered on a railway and spent my early years either on trains or hunting for 'ghost trains' or stations following every part of the M&GN lines most weekends! . Now I wish I'd taken more of an interest as I appreciate how special this event was historically and I only just found out it even happened!
Thanks for sharing this, great video and clearly much hard work has gone into the editing, great job!
The A4 are only a little bit smaller than the PRR K4s. That has me wondering what type of performance gains would the class see if they were to be fitted with stokers. When the PRR did a trial with two K4s being fitted with stokers, it was shown that there was a significant increase in pulling power and fuel economy.
Stokers have been tried in Britain - but with the reverse findings from the PRR. Coal was swallowed up to no good effect!
Excellent footage!
Thank you very much.
Just seen this video on UA-cam. The thought that was constant concerned the sight of a subdued, intensely powerful, Beautiful machine reduced to tugging 3 brake wagons about in order to beg for crumbs!.. At the very least couldn't there have been a couple of coaches available? That way the begging could have been for crusts! OR. Nowt to tug at all and be proud!!!
You could also see it as showing off to fans during a graceful retirement. I'm not sure a coach would be a better option- you couldn't stand on the veranda and get a faceful of steam if you so wished for example.
Nothing wrong with goods brake vans. Locos not begging for crumbs. Enthusiasts prefer goods brake vans see more of the locomotive . You're comment is rather stupid.
Many happy memories of Darlington station in the fifties as a schoolboy watching trains on the way to and from school. Thank you for uploading!
The closest I get to that is using the Weardale and Teesdale Network in the '60s route in Train Simulator. Glad you liked the film.
Silver Link on tv this morning in grim old Will Hay film 'Oh Mr Porter!'
2509 in almost original condition. Only difference from 1935 is the lengthening of the front buffer shanks and the subsequent bringing forward of the front coupling and vacuum pipe.
I wish Eisenhower was restored to operate here in the USA.
It'd be nice. Next to most US rolling stock you'd probably have to look twice to spot the loco'. Is she back next to the Big Boy at the US Railway Museum? I'm told she looked like a toy in comparison.
Yes it came back, an A4 might be smaller than most modern American steam. but i wouldn't say that if anything 19th century locomotives are like toys small and cute.
It might help if Eisenhower the man was restored to operate either here or in the UK. God help us all.
No comment.
TimRuffle actually it’s called the National Railroad Museum
What a wonderful video under such atrocious conditions, Tim. And your editing is impeccable. And aren't some people totally obnoxious, selfishly getting in the way? I think I'd go nuts. Anyway, I'm so glad a friend and I at least visited York and Shildon the previous year, although in my youth I had often travelled up to King's Cross from Hampshire and have pleasant memories of those steam-filled heydays. I've been in Germany since 1965 and thus enjoyed steam for a couple more years longer, but nothing is made to last, which is why your videos are of so much value. Many thanks and I look forward to more once Corona is beaten. Stay healthy! p.s. you share the same surname as a good friend of mine, who was for a few years Britain's if not Europe's oldest service air traffic controller!
Thank you. My grumbling was a bit tongue in cheek- I think everybody and his uncle has a camera or camera 'phone these days so it's unreasonable to expect everyone to keep out of everyone else's shots- though it doesn't hurt to try. Perhaps the camera itself makes a difference- I remember filming at Durham Miner's Gala in the '90s with my old MS4, a consumer level model but an impressive looking full-size S-VHS camera, and people were trampling their children to get out of my way.
My dad told me the first time he ever went to King's Cross he saw Mallard.
Is your friend from Essex? It's not an uncommon surname there but I've never met another Ruffle anywhere else.
I saw the Eisenhower train at the Green Bay rail museum years ago .
Have you seen her since she got back from Britain? The NRM did a terrific job of restoring her and Dominion of Canada.
When this happened i was 6 and i didn't know that i was attending the last time theyd be together in one place. I went on two days with my parents. Its ashame i only saw dominion of canada and dwight d eisenhower when that took place. It was beautiful though to see.😢 where has time gone....
I wish I could go to the uk to see the A4S buts a longggggg trip
Sorry to hear that. I hope this (and many other films on UA-cam) are some compensation.
10:55 MALLARD AND THE GANG
I wish mallard would return to steam or just even disguise bittern or sir Nigel Gresley it would nice to see the name mallard on a working a4
Restoring Mallard to running order for the 75th anniversary was discussed at the NRM. The argument agains doing so was, in a nutshell, "We're already restoring the most famous locomotive in the world [Flying Scotsman of course]- it would be foolish to compete with ourselves by restoring the second most famous." I do see the point.
Of course the restoration of Flying Scotsman dragged on and on long past the anniversary soaking up millions of pounds which raises another point- there's little of the original locomotive left now. I genuinely think there's a case for giving the original loco's a dignified and well-earned retirement and build replicas which, in Flying Scotsman's case anyway, would probably not cost much more than her restoration.
As an American I am absolutely jealous of British steam locomotives. Hoping there’s a time where I can go visit some day and hopefully take a ride on one
I always prefer the British rail green. What was it called Brunswick green?
Too bad, I will never get to see the A4s together, because I never made it to any of the gatherings.
this is second best, but better than NOT hearing, and seeing them, move.
One sight to behold.....
Much more proper than any locomotive my country (America) has ever put out.
The US never really had a need for anything like this but it has produced some magnificent loco's. Personally I love a big honest freight lugger like the Standard Class 9F or the old Q6s and Q7s that were ubiquitous in this area and I'd add the Big Boy and a few other splendid US kettles to the list.
I’m just not a fan of how industrious our locomotives look. I much prefer the sleek elegance of British locomotives.
Or perhaps I’m just biased. I mean, I enjoy the Q1s more than any American locomotive.
I assume you mean the Southern Railway Q1 which is a very different animal from the North Eastern heavy freight loco's. The LNER had a letter/number system for its loco's where the letter referred to the wheel arrangement with different classes designated by number so A was 4-6-2 Pacifics including the A4s here of course. Q was applied to 0-8-0 loco's.
O.V.S. Bullied (SR Chief Mechanical Engineer) was quite forward thinking and interested in Continental and US practice adopting anything he thought would make his loco's easier to build and maintain. This was especially true of his Q1 built under Austerity conditions during the War. The class has never been chiefly admired for its aesthetics over here.
I do mean the “Ugly Duckling” in this case. I can appreciate it for what it is, even though it’s not the most appealing locomotive ever built. I’m not sure why I can enjoy them over our own industrial locomotives, but I guess it’s how I view it.
I’ve always been impressed with the way British locomotive designers worked around problems. Over here, we usually just made our engines bigger until it did what we wanted it to. It made them look too ugly for my liking. Sorry if I seem childish in my remarks
US produced some of most powerful Steam Locomotives in the world, they had to be as even steam locomotives pulled nearly a mile in freight cars. The Baldwin 2-6-6-2T tractive effort was 38,000. Boiler pressure 200, was used to haul Red Wood Logs. Think of the weight of uncured red logs. Bolt right up to 1929. I won't argue against British Steam, but American Steam is no slouch. Maybe you should study American Rail. I'm enjoying learning about British Rail. Cousin cross the Sea.
I live about 20 minutes away from the Eisenhower
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Its amazing when out of all things it is a steam engine that is a landmark.
@@samsmithsonite1595 send a vid over
My favorite a4 I think was sir nigel gresly
Currently being overhauled at the NRM- on public view I believe.
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You know what they should do is offer rides on these trains with period cars in town, onj say the London, manchester, or where ever urban lines say on Friday nights and several times during the weekend. That would stop the engines from corroding up all the pistons, boiler tubes and pushrods. I'm sure if they picked a route that took people on a scenic route where trains don't usually go, it'd be a hit. Especially on balmy summer nights with all the windows open! Set the price like fairly modest say like 40 to 80 quid per head but not out of reach of the general punter. They could have a compere addressing the passengers via a PA system in each carriage and they could go past places of vintage railway importance and the MC could explain the significance. I'd love to go on a country steam tour departing from London central station , maybe going thru the lakes district and co,ming back and led by a Deltic or a Flying Scotsman type steamer with a Bevy of vintage carriages in tow. They could even allow some drinks and finger food on board and have a DJ playing up front Dance music or classics. Just a pipe dream from me, but It's 10x better than letting them sit and rot in some yard and ending up needing a full aesthetic rebuild due to lack of use. What say people?
Union of South Africa and Bittern do run rail-tours and and the only reason Sir Nigel is only out of action because her boiler certificate ran out. She usually runs regularly on the NYMR. It's in the nature of steam restoration to replace a great deal of the the locomotive- even parts of Flying Scotsman's frames were replaced at the last hidiously expensive overhaul. There's a good case for letting these 80 years old loco's retire gracefully in musuems perhaps replaced on the rails with new build replicas.
shoominati23 You could have been on a steam railtour out of London yesterday with LMS Jubilee class 45699 Galatea, and up around Appleby in Cumbria, you'd have passed 60009 Union of South Africa & another Jubilee 45690 Leander coming the other way hauling tours from Bristol & York 😉 I was on the latter... Was hoping for 46233 Dutchess of Sutherland instead of a Jubilee, but you can't have it all!
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There's more. Hands up all those like me "bunked" Kings X MPD and others to see these magnificent machines quietly hissing away waiting for the next fast tour of duty up Norf? Guilty M'Lud... When I did this there were no staff to be seen anywhere. Other Motive Power Depots ( I visited most ) always had staff on hand to chase you off. Never caught though. Very fit and nippy in my late teens and with my Triumph Motor Cycles ( The Triumphs like those A4s, 3s,2s etc .. More Tru-Brit Steel ) As a Nation we used to make some half-decent stuff and them some ~ where did it all go right?
Well done. Would of loved to be there . USA engines are
not so elegant,great looking locos,
Maybe I'm biased but I'd have to agree though there certainly are some handsome US kettles and most have an impressively purposeful look about them. Glas you enjoyed the film.
So much for going to 150th anniversary of big boy
Not sure what to make of this. Assuming you mean the loco weren't they built in the '40s?
Oh sorry I edited this a month ago and I meant golden spike anniversary
I'm the 300th like and I love them all. But ya can't beat Mallard. Mallard is my fave train
Stripe me- so you are. 300! That's... good isn't it? Do I get a prize or something? :-). Do I owe you a prize? :-(
Seriously- glad you enjoyed the film. I'd still have to rate Deltic's as my favourites but I certainly can't argue with your choice- or anyone elses really. (Pacers aren't anyone's favourites are they?)
@@TimRuffle they always say the north is inflicted with pacers and the south gets newer locomotives, however the pacer can be found in the southwest. where the journey time from Plymouth to Paddington has reduced by half an hour since the days of steam. 3 and a half hours for quick train down to 3 hours. The king or castle averaging over 60 miles an hour.
@@alexwright6038 In spite of my slight dig I can't really find it in my heart to knock Pacers. Once the teething troubles were sorted out they fulfilled the aim of being cheap to run and there are a few branch lines that may have been closed without them. A few years ago I was told by someone at the Weardale Railway (which runs from Bishop aucklond on up Weardale) that they wouldn't have been able to afford to run a service without their Class 141. It has to be admited that they are well past their best-before date though (and the thought that Pacers now count as heritage stock makes me feel quite old).
Sorry not to have noted your comment earlier.
The A4's Whistle... the best in the known Universe... probably. I'm old enough to have seen these babies in action on the ECML many moons ago... and the Deltics including the blue prototype.
Youngsters today up in their bedrooms on the play stations etc, don't know theyze born as we say dahn sarf ... oh and ooop norf.
I fully agree about the whistle, although the sound is dual toned, almost 'American', I prefer it to the standard British one. Heard in the distance, it is very haunting.
@@MrDaiseymay Despite that Philip, my all time favourite steam Locomotives are the LMS Coronation Class Pacifics on the WCML. To my ears, they had a very poor "ugly" sounding "whistle" more like a poor factory workers end of shift change noise... I was twelve when standing on Tamworth High Level as the Mid-Day Scot northbound flashed through. 46237 City of Bristol. That was the very first time I saw one of Stanier's magnificent machines at high speed. Those Four Cylinders ( one more than the A4's ) mean eight power pulses for every rotation of those big driving wheels. Those power pulses and their exhausting sounds merge into one continuous glorious sound at high speed. A sound as impressive as any Formula 1 Racing Car ... but not as impressive as Mike Hailwood's magnificent Honda Six Grand Prix machine all of which I had the pleasure of seeing and hearing in action back in those now far away days. Sir William Stanier had a thoroughbred background. I believe he learnt his design skills whilst he was at Swindon. The origin and home of the Four Cylinder Kings and Castles all of which I have seen at high speed back in the day. Yes, marvellous memories long gone but never forgotten. It's fifty years since Concord first flew. Saw one of the prototypes above my home several times when it was being assessed at nearby Fairford prior to entering service. Droop snoop and ungainly undercarriage deployed on those early test flights whilst literally hanging about low in the sky overhead. A4s, Coronation Pacifics, Concord you name it.... Us Brits used to make some fine stuff. Where did it all go right? ...Meantime.. . Youngsters today don't know theyze born as we used to say down south,, oh yes, and up north... :) Cue my young sons asking... Did you really go to work on a steam train Dad? Yes son, many times. "You must be very old"... :doh:... ;-)
@@T16MGJ Not sure you entirely right about the four cylinders. Typically* in a four cylinder loco' the cylinders, which I'll number 1 (outside left), 2, 3 (both together inside the frames) and 4 (outside right), work in pairs so 1 and 3 are in sync with each other as are 2 and 4. I imagine this evens the stresses out across the driving axle and it also means that you only need two sets of valves- one for each pair of cylinders. Like a two cylinder loco' though they would still chuff at four beats to the bar.
* Not including compound designs.
I drive trains on my PC. Hope you liked the film.
The Southern 'Lord Nelsons', I believe, were eight to the bar...
I think that 'Clanking' sound is from the injector valve that feeds water from the Tender into the Boiler and in an ingenious way and it operates even if the Locomotive is stationary.
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Interesting- thanks for the note. I didn't hear it coming from the other loco's though. Sorry I didn't reply earlier
6 a4s remain as of 2022.
Out of 35, only six. No one really in-depth looks into a4s. The average train guy only knows the a4 for mallards speed record.
My grandfather was around at the time that mallard and her class was grand spanking new.
My favorite a4 is number 60009 which also appeared in this video at 4:43 I love engines like this. Scotsman mey have 2 tenders and be the main character in the steam engine trilogy that started in 1800 but she will never be the best. The a4s will always manage to outshine her.
I hope sir nigel is back in service before number 9s ticket runs out in april
As a widower with 2 dogs that are my life thats why i take them with me
Fair enough and I dare say you are quite responsible as are the majority of dog owners but at least one dog I saw seemed quite scared of the loco's. I'd no more have taken a dog that wasn't at least somewhat accustomed to trains to this event than I would take one to a fireworks display. Of course I was lugging my video gear around so I wouldn't have anyway.
We'd had a dog (Budge, a Bearded Collie) for some years before we moved to Durham and our first home in this area was in Durham City in a house overlooking the ECML. I'm not sure he had ever seen a train before we moved but after a while, with me and Dad both at least looking around when anything went past and occasionally leaping to our feet and grabbing binoculars, Budge started watching too. He seemed to pay particular attention to the 125s IIRC. Best dog ever.
I really enjoyed your video. I was only making an observation .
My Gordon Setter Called Crombie goes with me to all the Heritage railways in Uk.He Just loves it all.We will be at NYMR For the Autumn gala.
I needed to know why they don’t dig a tunnel and do an extension for the main line Train so that they can extend the unused abandoned underground train stations. Why couldn’t they use the part D78 Stock train doors on the sides and also restructure the front face of the A60 and A62 stock and that includes the class 313, class 314 and class 315 remix and make them all together and also redesign them an overhead line and also make them into Five cars per units and also having three Disabled Toilets on those Five cars per units A60 and A62 stock trains and also convert the A60 and A62 stock trains into a Scania N112, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Engines and also put the Loud 7-Speed Voith Gearboxes even Loud 8-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Gearboxes in the A60 and A62 stock, class 313, class 314, and class 315 and also modernise the A60 and A62 stock and make it into an 11 car per unit so it could have fewer doors, more tables, computers and mobile phone chargers. A Stock Trains and also having 8 Disabled Toilets on those A stock trains. why couldn’t we refurbish and modernise the Waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel and make it more Larger and extend it to the bank station, making it into a Triple-Track Railway Line so those Five countries such as Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden to convert the waterloo and city line Triple-Track Railway tunnel into a High-Speed Railway lines? The Third Euro tunnel Triple-Track Railway line to make it 11 times better for passengers so they could go from A to B. Then put the modernised 11 car per unit A Stock and put them on a bigger modernised Waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel so it could go to bank station to those Five countries such as Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. The modernised refurbished 11 cars per unit A stock could be a High Speed The Third Triple-Track Euro Tunnel Train So it is promising and 47 times a lot more possible to do this kind of project if that will be OK for London Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. oh by the way, could they also tunnel the Triple-Track Railway Line so it will stop from Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex so that the Passengers will go to Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland and Sweden and also extend the Triple-Track Railway Line from the Bank to Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex Stations so that more people from there could go to Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden more Easily. Why couldn't they extend the Piccadilly Line and also build brand-new underground train stations so it could go even further right up to Clapton, Wood Street can they also make another brand new underground train station in Chingford and could they extend the Piccadilly Line and the DLR right up to Chingford? All of the classes 150, 155, 154, 117, 114, 105, and 106, will be replaced by all of the Scania N112, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Five carriages three disabled toilets are air conditioning trains including Highams Park for extended roots which is the Piccadilly line and the DLR trains. Could you also convert all of the 1973 stock trains into an air-conditioned maximum speed 78 km/hours (48 MPH) re-refurbished and make it into a 8 cars per unit if that will be alright, and also extend all of the Piccadilly train stations to make more space for all of the extended 8 car per unit 1973 stock air condition trains and can you also build another Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive Companies and can they order Every 37 Octagon and Every 17 Hexagon shape LNER diagram unique small no.13 and unique small no.11 Boilers from those Countries such as Greece, Italy, Poland, and Sweden, can they make Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive speeds by up to 142MPH so you can try and test it on the Original Mainline so it will be much more safer for the Passengers to enjoy the 142MPH speed Limit only for HS2 and Channel Tunnel mainline services, if they needed 16 Carriages Per units, can they use those class 55’s, class 44’s, class 40’s and class 43HST Diesel Locomotive’s right at the Back of those 18 Carriages Per Units so they can take over at the Back to let those Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s have a rest for those interesting Journeys Please!!!!!!!, oh can you make all of those Coal Boxes’s 17 Tonnes for all of those 142MPH Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s so the Companies will Understand us PASSENGER’S!! so please make sure that the Builders can do as they are told!!!! And please do something about these very very important Professional ideas Please? Prime Minister of England, Prime Minister of Australia, Prime Minister of Sweden, Prime Minister of Germany, Prime Minister of Italy, Prime Minister of Poland and that Includes the Mayor of London.
No offence but I had to stop reading this because I felt a nose-bleed coming on. Can you break it down into paragraphs and sentences?
In what way does this comment apply to this video. Read the title of the video. Assuming you can read, or have some intelligence.
these locomotives are the epitome of steam traction in the U K they should be kept together to ensure that least two of them are steamable at any one time NOT sitting in a museum overseas gathering dust and rust
It's great to see them running around but that does cause a certain amount of wear and tear so there is an argument for putting them in a museum- preferably after a replica has been built to take their place on the main line though. There are three in working order or being returned to steam so I personally can't begrudge the North American museums their specimens which would have gone to scrap otherwise.
Thank you for your comment and sorry not to have noted it earlier.
@@TimRuffle Sadly there will only be two working examples shortly. Once UOSA boiler ticket expires it will be retired permanently to a Scottish museum. Sir Nigel is nearly overhauled and Bittern is waiting it's turn to be overhauled.
@@bryemycaz There's an argument that running these loco's wares them out. How much of the original Flying Scotsman is actually left these days. Perhaps there comes a time when these machines have earned a graceful retirement.
Shame though.
What about HMS Victory. Timbers are replaced so frequently that I doubt that there's a square inch left of the ship that Nelson knew. But is she still Victory? Of course she is. And the same goes for our steam heritage too.