@@jimmyjohnjoejr ...Is there actually any lore as to why they couldn't put a tracker on the quantum moon? If not I'm guessing that's an actual oversight in the lore
@@jimmyjohnjoejr As advanced as they were, the Nomai didn't develop some technologies that the Hearthians had, for example it looks like their shuttles can only move by gravity cannon, and they had to develop huge contraptions just to tracking planet signals. Given that, I could totally believe that they didn't have the technology for positional trackers the Hearthians have for the little scout
Alt title: Becoming quantumly entangled by slamming my foot in a door Seriously, I love watching these shenanigans! Particularly since you refuse to cease from flying full speed into everything even when you have a goal in mind lol
>four eyed alien wakes up >discovers impossible to locate planetoid >casually falls on top of species who found it impossible to locate from space >language barrier prevents explanation >sun explodes >chad memory loops away
@@sungvinI have been watching his Hollow Knight playthrough though the Outer Wilds one is a bit too long, but sounds fun. Might want to watch Eelis' supercut
It's not realistically humanly possible (with infinite time and complete random inputs, theoretically it would be possible, but we neither have infinite time, nor are human inputs entirely random), but I do think it's a fun thought experiment to think of someone for whom it'd be possible to achieve such a result, without prior knowledge about being able to jam the Scout there or that it'd do anything, or, for that matter, that there even is a 6-th location for the Quantum Moon.
It might have something to do with how, when entering through the atmosphere, you always land on the quantum moon at it's south pole, and the south pole of the sixth location being the pseudo eye vortex. You're never meant to get to the sixth location from the outside by entering through the atmosphere, so when you do the game tries to put you at the south pole like normal, but when it does it's also clipping into all sorts of weird terrain cause your ship was never meant to end up there, and also there's the massive vortex which warps you to the timber hearth location. Game doesn't know what to do, flips its shit, and you die. The reason it works better without the ship is in that case your ship isn't being warped somewhere it isn't supposed to be and clipping into shit and exploding.
I'm currently working on a project to work out what the exact trajectory of probe 9,318,054 was using some trig to compare its trajectory with the current probe in the Probe Tracking Module diagram. You _can_ easily catch up with the probe with your ship, so if you knew which stars to aim towards, you definitely could retrace that same path -- even if that still wouldn't reach the eye for technical game engine reasons.
@@funeraltwo268 I think the one you see when you first wake up before seeing the statue is the probe that finds the eye, then the probe finds the eye and activates the statue (story wise anyway).
thanks for making the follow up, also switching quantum moon locations while outside of the chamber was really cool to watch. funny subtitles too. 10/10 great vid
clipping out of the six location is actually very easy, no need for tricks there is just like, a hole in the rocks on the right not too far from the tower, it's unlikely to be found accidentally but incredibly easy if you know it's there and there are some fun things like solanum's ship being stored there
It's interesting how you enter the moon's 6th location at the south pole when you do it like this. It's consistent with how the moon usually works at its other locations, but it still feels weird since you normally always enter the 6th location at the north pole through the tower.
Yeah, mechanically it works like how it would if you were already on the moon and looking at a picture of it on your scout. Going out of bounds though, it’s clear the “north side” of the moon doesn’t even exist
Now i kinda feel cheated this isn't a possible ending route. Would be much cooler if the eye was actually present there, we just couldn't see it because its black, just like the stranger.
I think in lore it constantly blinks around so it‘s not as easy as just flying to it’s location. That does bring up the question of how the nomai where able to find coordinates, but I prefer to not think about that part too hard
@@headhunter1958 we have no reason to believe it moves around. The southern observatory shows it moving around but ecplains this is simply showing they can't detect its signal, no that it is actually moving. It was moving then the orbital probe cannon wouldn't work since its location would constantly change. The simplest conclusion is that it is simply a really far away planet (the game does refer to it as a planet)
i skipped to see the part of you teleporting to it and i was shocked to see some strange structure in the middle of space and it seemingly being the eye of the universe, until i watched from the beginning and saw what you did, still really cool though
I wonder, does the probe on the quantum moon orbit the sun? And, does the quantum moon locator on the south(I think) of the ember twin still point to the probe location?
I know that the moders found that the quantum moon six location orbits the sun. because all other quantum moon have a set orbit target. but the six have the sun as it orbit target.
I think it's a bit difficult to kiss with both of you in your respective spacesuits but you each seem to have sufficient mobility for the biggest of huuuugs :3
They did, in a way, by tracking the signal the moon itself emits. But as the various quantum moon (and eye) locators show when you try looking for the sixth location, a signal is not a conscious observer. So the locators just spin wildly, unable to find it, since the signal is also entangled with the quantum object in its superposition.
@@donarmando7504 You're right, and Solanum is also conscious on the moon. Maybe the signal is just scrambled by the Owlk containment field then? Or maybe you need to look at the eye itself and not just the quantum moon to collapse the superposition? (I'm thinking that just because the moon is at the eye, it does not mean the eye has to be at any one specific location, so it can still be in its own superposition)
@@bokkiewokkie3818 i think when solanum landed he became quantum entangled. his ship and dead body are experiencing quantum superposition on the different possible positions the moon can be in, so the solanum we find is actually just one of the few versions that managed to survive and find the sixth location.
There is a certain mechanism that has to happen so you can get onto the moon. The game will tell you, you just have to keep exploring. (If you want a hint, the answer is on Giants Deep)
![What happens when you call a Nomai shuttle home after supernova? [Outer Wilds]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/CPxzmC6uXGY/mqdefault.jpg)
I think this makes you an honorary nomai. You did technically find the eye after all.
Makes me wonder why the nomai never tried this...
@@jimmyjohnjoejr ...Is there actually any lore as to why they couldn't put a tracker on the quantum moon? If not I'm guessing that's an actual oversight in the lore
@@danieljennings9617 probably the same thing that stops the eye signal would stop the tracker's signal
@@jimmyjohnjoejr As advanced as they were, the Nomai didn't develop some technologies that the Hearthians had, for example it looks like their shuttles can only move by gravity cannon, and they had to develop huge contraptions just to tracking planet signals. Given that, I could totally believe that they didn't have the technology for positional trackers the Hearthians have for the little scout
@@danieljennings9617 If they tracked it constantly, it would stop jumping around.
Alt title: Becoming quantumly entangled by slamming my foot in a door
Seriously, I love watching these shenanigans! Particularly since you refuse to cease from flying full speed into everything even when you have a goal in mind lol
>four eyed alien wakes up
>discovers impossible to locate planetoid
>casually falls on top of species who found it impossible to locate from space
>language barrier prevents explanation
>sun explodes
>chad memory loops away
Refuses to elaborate further mutation, noice :D
perfect sum up 👌✨
I can imagine some actual gigabrain out there figured this out without knowing the intentional way to get there
They’d be the dumbest smartest person in all existence
@@kay_jello you're right!
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@@sungvinI have been watching his Hollow Knight playthrough though the Outer Wilds one is a bit too long, but sounds fun. Might want to watch Eelis' supercut
It's not realistically humanly possible (with infinite time and complete random inputs, theoretically it would be possible, but we neither have infinite time, nor are human inputs entirely random), but I do think it's a fun thought experiment to think of someone for whom it'd be possible to achieve such a result, without prior knowledge about being able to jam the Scout there or that it'd do anything, or, for that matter, that there even is a 6-th location for the Quantum Moon.
I guess the ship kept exploding on Solanum when it entered the South Pole.
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i'm glad "outer wilds exploration videos because we all wish we could play that game again" is a video genre that i've stumbled upon
I love how you manage to damage the ship every time, lmao
It might have something to do with how, when entering through the atmosphere, you always land on the quantum moon at it's south pole, and the south pole of the sixth location being the pseudo eye vortex. You're never meant to get to the sixth location from the outside by entering through the atmosphere, so when you do the game tries to put you at the south pole like normal, but when it does it's also clipping into all sorts of weird terrain cause your ship was never meant to end up there, and also there's the massive vortex which warps you to the timber hearth location. Game doesn't know what to do, flips its shit, and you die.
The reason it works better without the ship is in that case your ship isn't being warped somewhere it isn't supposed to be and clipping into shit and exploding.
I'm currently working on a project to work out what the exact trajectory of probe 9,318,054 was using some trig to compare its trajectory with the current probe in the Probe Tracking Module diagram. You _can_ easily catch up with the probe with your ship, so if you knew which stars to aim towards, you definitely could retrace that same path -- even if that still wouldn't reach the eye for technical game engine reasons.
But, isn't all the trajectories random?
@@funeraltwo268 i thiiiiiiiiink the first one of a new game is always the same direction?
@@uwu-nyaa Yeah but the first one of a game, is the one probe launched RIGHT AFTER the eye was found
I like your funny words, magic man
@@funeraltwo268 I think the one you see when you first wake up before seeing the statue is the probe that finds the eye, then the probe finds the eye and activates the statue (story wise anyway).
thanks for making the follow up, also switching quantum moon locations while outside of the chamber was really cool to watch. funny subtitles too. 10/10 great vid
clipping out of the six location is actually very easy, no need for tricks there is just like, a hole in the rocks on the right not too far from the tower, it's unlikely to be found accidentally but incredibly easy if you know it's there and there are some fun things like solanum's ship being stored there
Cool! I didn’t know that
the quantum backroom is probably the most terrorising thing i could imagine
That speedup marshmellow feast at the made me chuckle unexpectedly xD
Nomai slapping their heads, building a giant time machine getup to find the eye when they could have just done this.
This feels like a speedrun strat, cool stuff!
Wow that's so interesting! Cool that you got it to work :D
It’s a super cool discovery! I wish there was a way to get the ship there, oh well
It's interesting how you enter the moon's 6th location at the south pole when you do it like this. It's consistent with how the moon usually works at its other locations, but it still feels weird since you normally always enter the 6th location at the north pole through the tower.
Yeah, mechanically it works like how it would if you were already on the moon and looking at a picture of it on your scout. Going out of bounds though, it’s clear the “north side” of the moon doesn’t even exist
Something cool to try out would be to test if the quantum moon that is visible at the eye of the universe actually works
Thanks for the comment and I actually did test this out in my out of bounds eye of the universe video
@@kay_jello oh no way, I'll check it out in a bit then, thanks for letting me know :)
2:58 the truth behind this experiment…was really after some of that Nomussy smh 😅
I love how you so consistently f*ck up your ship landing on the quantum moon
Your piloting license needs to be reviewed 🧐
What licence ?
Now i kinda feel cheated this isn't a possible ending route. Would be much cooler if the eye was actually present there, we just couldn't see it because its black, just like the stranger.
I think in lore it constantly blinks around so it‘s not as easy as just flying to it’s location. That does bring up the question of how the nomai where able to find coordinates, but I prefer to not think about that part too hard
@@headhunter1958 Nah it doesn't blink around, its just meant to be in a VERY far orbit.
@@teejayburger2136 but isn‘t it quantum? That‘s literally the one characteristic of quantum objects. Maybe I‘m misunderstanding something here
@@headhunter1958 we have no reason to believe it moves around. The southern observatory shows it moving around but ecplains this is simply showing they can't detect its signal, no that it is actually moving. It was moving then the orbital probe cannon wouldn't work since its location would constantly change. The simplest conclusion is that it is simply a really far away planet (the game does refer to it as a planet)
@@teejayburger2136 so the hypothesis is that the eye itself isn’t quantum, it just makes everything in it‘s vicinity quantum?
Thank you for the follow up, was waiting for this moment
Omg you’re an amazing glitch finder! How the heck, these tricks are so simple I can’t believe they’re not widely known about!
My immediate thought after the last video was what if you try without the ship? Glad to see it works!
i skipped to see the part of you teleporting to it and i was shocked to see some strange structure in the middle of space and it seemingly being the eye of the universe, until i watched from the beginning and saw what you did, still really cool though
I am utterly in awe of your genius.
Holy fucking shit I love this game and I admire all of you guys who are capable of breaking it like this
If only the Nomai thought of doing this. They would have found the eye themselves 😆
Wow! Didn't expect that to work and I will give it a go too!
THE QUANTUM RULES, ARE THE QUANTUM RULES BROTHER!
The very last second of the video got a good laugh from me
Haha, such a chaotic player as usual :D. My condolences on being friendzoned...
Hey, can you try what happens if you enter the black hole in the High Energy Lab? I wonder if it is scripted to duplicate the scout only.
Great idea, I never thought about it but now I’m curious. I’ll try it next time I play
I tried it with the help of the Scout Teleport mod, the holes behave as you'd expect, really. Walk into the black, walk out of the white
@@SuperTux20 So, no time travel stuff?
Took me a while to figure out what you did here, but: COOL.
Also cool: it doesn't drop you at the South pole!?
Fast eating marshmallows
if only the nomai had such advanced hearthian technology... they wouldn't have had to attempt to blow up the sun and invent semi time travel
the end got me
the quantum backrooms are terrifiyng
I wonder, does the probe on the quantum moon orbit the sun?
And, does the quantum moon locator on the south(I think) of the ember twin still point to the probe location?
Ohh interesting thought
I know that the moders found that the quantum moon six location orbits the sun.
because all other quantum moon have a set orbit target. but the six have the sun as it orbit target.
5:01 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Very interesting, would there be a way to see other variations of the moon from outside like that?
Do you mean going out of bounds? If so then I have seen a speed runner do it before so yes!
I think it's a bit difficult to kiss with both of you in your respective spacesuits but you each seem to have sufficient mobility for the biggest of huuuugs :3
why did you stop my man. your videos were so good!!
Dw, more coming soon…
Who needs legs when you have a jetpack anyways?
Great content 👌
Makes me wonder why the nomai didn't try to put a signal in the quantum moon and then following in the six location
They did, in a way, by tracking the signal the moon itself emits. But as the various quantum moon (and eye) locators show when you try looking for the sixth location, a signal is not a conscious observer. So the locators just spin wildly, unable to find it, since the signal is also entangled with the quantum object in its superposition.
@@bokkiewokkie3818 but if you put a nomai in it you can have a concious observer in the moon
@@donarmando7504 You're right, and Solanum is also conscious on the moon. Maybe the signal is just scrambled by the Owlk containment field then? Or maybe you need to look at the eye itself and not just the quantum moon to collapse the superposition? (I'm thinking that just because the moon is at the eye, it does not mean the eye has to be at any one specific location, so it can still be in its own superposition)
@@bokkiewokkie3818 i think when solanum landed he became quantum entangled. his ship and dead body are experiencing quantum superposition on the different possible positions the moon can be in, so the solanum we find is actually just one of the few versions that managed to survive and find the sixth location.
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Have you tried dropping your ship in before or after you land yourself
Yes, I haven’t got it to work though. It’s also really hard to do
You're telling me the Nomai didn't think about putting an emitter on the moon to locate it?
you should've tried throwing only the ship there
What is that Quantum Backrooms thing? And how do you get there? It looked so sick
wait yeah why didnt they just send a nomai with a signal broadcaster to the quantum moon and have them go to it's sixth location
The signal would come from all locations but the eye. The Stranger’s are blocking the signal
@@NotMexican spoiler for dlc smhhh
I do not understand AT ALL how you did that 😆can i get an explanation of what that probe you shot did, and why it caused that glitch?
This is a lore breaking bug
If anyone wants to know it this is not fixed, I did it and it worked
They should make it so that if the Scout is at the 6th location then the marker disappears because [DLC SPOILER REDACTED]
You are the Bugseeker))
What happens if you jump out the wormhole?
It puts you on timber hearth’s qm just like normal
we need a solanum romance dlc urgently
You managed to find the sixth location manually yet you still can't land on the Quantum Moon properly.
I beat the game and have no idea what this video is about.
Is this in the first game or echos of the eye cuz when I try going in to the moon I go through it like it’s fog.
There is a certain mechanism that has to happen so you can get onto the moon. The game will tell you, you just have to keep exploring.
(If you want a hint, the answer is on Giants Deep)
Land on < crash into
What version of ow is this?
Can the sun blow while you're there?
Is it possible to find the eye ?
5:00 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh so I didnt do it wrong after all. lul