RuneScape 3rd Party Client Abuse is Out of Control

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  • RuneScape 3rd Party Client Abuse Is Out of Control
    Recently, OSBuddy, RuneLite, and other 3rd party clients have been heavily debated in OldSchool RuneScape. Here's a look into some of the craziest 3rd Party Client advantages (not on OSBuddy or RuneLite).
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  • @OPOP-tp8ro
    @OPOP-tp8ro 5 років тому +605

    Please note, the pvp related clips in this video are not examples Vswitcher. Using any third party client, you are putting your account at higher risk. Using programs that promise an advantage, can sometimes lead to account security issues, and certainly bans. P.s. yes, I am the one in the interview.

    • @fruittella2585
      @fruittella2585 5 років тому +31

      Fair play man for shutting it down if we are to keep enjoying as a game we all need to try and keep it as the way was when alot of us was kids 🤘

    • @osmanmazraeh6253
      @osmanmazraeh6253 5 років тому +10

      Yo send the link to me so i can be the first quadrillionair :)

    • @OPOP-tp8ro
      @OPOP-tp8ro 5 років тому +30

      @@osmanmazraeh6253 lol no links shall be sent.

    • @jamesreed60
      @jamesreed60 5 років тому

      @@OPOP-tp8ro I actually wanted to ask you question regarding something that happened to me, Anyway to speak with you in private? I am not asking for any secret money making methods or pvp client.

    • @OPOP-tp8ro
      @OPOP-tp8ro 5 років тому +6

      @@jamesreed60 If you post your discord I can reach out, I won't be posting any contact info here.

  • @ArcticAstrophysics
    @ArcticAstrophysics 5 років тому +1173

    So glad I started playing in its prime back in 2006-2007, back when people didn't care as much about XP gains and people would talk while training

    • @TvShopOnTv
      @TvShopOnTv 5 років тому +207

      gaming was different overall back then, almost everybody was just playing to enjoy the game.
      these days gaming has become a competition even where there shouldnt be competition.

    • @bloodarcher7841
      @bloodarcher7841 5 років тому +25

      Bob I agree.. I just play to play. Only worried about getting a t bow cause it’s my ultimate dreams but that’s it

    • @Peqqy
      @Peqqy 5 років тому +72

      Bots, real world trading and bug abuse were around even back then. Not as excessively of course, but they were still around. Different methods, same weak minded people.
      06-07 were great times though. Pking was in its peak with all kinds of players fighting eachother instead of only maxed out pures.

    • @smithrune7354
      @smithrune7354 5 років тому +52

      And people got an adrenaline rush pking a rune scimmy AND r2h at the same time.

    • @pontusmunkalot9701
      @pontusmunkalot9701 5 років тому +6

      @@smithrune7354 ooh that felt good, pked magic ammy (t) once thought it was millions lol

  • @OhSoCinema
    @OhSoCinema 5 років тому +680

    i swear its the spooky music in the background that keeps me here

    • @koldolmen5837
      @koldolmen5837 5 років тому +4

      SWEAR TO ME!!!!!

    • @CodeZMFR
      @CodeZMFR 5 років тому +15

      It's basically what this channel is about. The guy talking in between is just side content.

    • @DooMixedUp
      @DooMixedUp 5 років тому +4

      The spooky music makes me leave after 30 seconds lol

    • @LL-je3bq
      @LL-je3bq 5 років тому +9

      I think its Draynor Manor ingame music correct me if im wrong

    • @pawkisser
      @pawkisser 5 років тому +7

      its just draynor and wildy music noobs

  • @mrmaksl
    @mrmaksl 5 років тому +347

    7:03 is just regular woox gameplay

    • @dylan75360
      @dylan75360 5 років тому +14

      Exactly. And that's the problem! Normal humans shouldn't be able to play like Woox

  • @pallettown3358
    @pallettown3358 5 років тому +1267

    This isn't third party clients.. this is just botting

    • @smithrune7354
      @smithrune7354 5 років тому +100

      This is hacking and should definitely be a priority for jagex.

    • @JamaiiQ
      @JamaiiQ 5 років тому +61

      This is next level illuminati shit, Jagex should hire NASA to code for them.

    • @Fr0zenEagle
      @Fr0zenEagle 5 років тому +38

      And bots aren't third party clients?

    • @ZachIzBeast
      @ZachIzBeast 5 років тому +11

      @@JamaiiQ Have you seen NASA code? Look up excerpts from the lunar lander that were officially released to the public, some of them are pretty...interesting. Lets just say the coders had a pretty morbid sense of humor at times.

    • @iamaaronification
      @iamaaronification 5 років тому +2

      ur just a whale

  • @Beckwourth
    @Beckwourth 5 років тому +447

    Yo that pistol and sniper rifle example are sick lol

    • @smithrune7354
      @smithrune7354 5 років тому +35

      I have 0 problem with changing graphics to customize my character 😂

    • @Skrychi
      @Skrychi 5 років тому +5

      @@smithrune7354 *cough* rs3 *cough*

    • @smithrune7354
      @smithrune7354 5 років тому +1

      @@Skrychi no thanks 😂 I don't like their pvp

    • @modehfy1352
      @modehfy1352 5 років тому +32

      Poll for ballista to be changed to sniper rifle please

    • @valkdubstep
      @valkdubstep 5 років тому

      WANT LOOOL

  • @25Buttholes
    @25Buttholes 5 років тому +1833

    #UPDATETHEORIGINALCLIENT

  • @-comment
    @-comment 4 роки тому +40

    When osrs is understaffed and existing staff is paid peanuts as they are now, nothing is going to be fixed anytime soon.

  • @cameroncampbell5447
    @cameroncampbell5447 5 років тому +310

    No one would need to use third party clients if Jagex would just add basic add ons to the main game (Item identifier, GPU graphics, skill calculators etc..)

    • @TooMuchDad
      @TooMuchDad 5 років тому +29

      people still would for malicious purposes, since they can put whatever they want into them. But yeah the majority of normal players would be totally fine with an upgraded vanilla client.

    • @Lucas-ur5su
      @Lucas-ur5su 5 років тому +9

      Id rather they work on group iron man instead of trying to please babies who need their hand held while trying to finish a hard clue
      Honestly if youre complaining about gpu youve probably got a decent pc so just open another tab, look up skill calc osrs on google, and open another tab for a wiki on how to finish ur clue.
      The only main problem ive had on official client is the spawn timer at arma and even then u can set up a stop watch
      To summarize, these are all qol things and if they have to remove all 3rd party clients to get rid of abusers and bots easier then so be it, even if a few crying redditors leave then great

    • @garryoak
      @garryoak 5 років тому +5

      But it wouldn't be oldschool anymore.

    • @2_Pi
      @2_Pi 5 років тому +2

      Shady clients will never disappear as long as jagex can't detect them.

    • @fallenone4108
      @fallenone4108 5 років тому +30

      @@Lucas-ur5su I would rather they work on skills then trying to please babies who need a group to do a solo mode.
      If your complaining about gpu it's called fps overload which is basicly frame dropping making the game lag and tear. It has nothing to do with the add ons.
      The only main problem with the main client is its slow, runs terrible on new pcs, and makes everything generally harder for no reason. Back on 06-07 it was unable to make these add ons into the client do to pc limitations now that they're gone there's no real excuse for it.
      To summarize, removing 3rd party clients would only hurt the public players who don't abuse it to bot. Most botters use custom clients or the offical client to do botting not runelite and scammbuddy so banning them would get rid of about 0% of the botting problem. Also those few crying redditors are 95% of the current player base who play on 3rd party clients so yes you should care seeing as it would destroy the money flow of the game and it would be shut down.

  • @TheGP3s
    @TheGP3s 4 роки тому +24

    "They could cast Ice Barrage and Vengeance!"
    Me: OH MY GOD THATS OP
    ".. and they could alch something!"
    Me: LMAO

  • @skoodlemoose
    @skoodlemoose 5 років тому +516

    who is out here actually struggling with barrows doors tho

    • @hoqzy3972
      @hoqzy3972 5 років тому +30

      I cant do barrows without runelite

    • @SUBSCRlB3D
      @SUBSCRlB3D 5 років тому +3

      me

    • @Jop3lius
      @Jop3lius 5 років тому +46

      when barrows was released i died to dharok and lost my dragon platelegs there fkn shit place refund my membership

    • @MichaelChiklisCares
      @MichaelChiklisCares 5 років тому +8

      doors are xp waste

    • @DarkBluePaperHats
      @DarkBluePaperHats 5 років тому +18

      @@Jop3lius you suck ass lol

  • @sphinxfn2218
    @sphinxfn2218 5 років тому +348

    This is just botting on third party clients with custom code? wtf

    • @CamandrKreen
      @CamandrKreen 5 років тому +12

      Yeah that's what these third party clients allow, when something is open source anyone can make any kind of code

    • @kevin28115
      @kevin28115 5 років тому +32

      @@CamandrKreen that's like saying anyone can simply learn scripting and make their own bot client

    • @TehGettinq
      @TehGettinq 5 років тому +22

      @@kevin28115 no. making the client is hard. making scripts that run on the client is easy. Even more so when its open source and you have access to all the functions used for the current plugins..

    • @Bittamin
      @Bittamin 5 років тому

      @@TehGettinq I was just gonna say theres probably a way to just copy and paste code sourced from other people now

    • @mike623030
      @mike623030 5 років тому

      @@TehGettinq making the client is not hard bit of coding knowledge you can do it i had a friend back when osrs came out had a client running in 1 day to buy and put code in so he could buy the vials of water from shops quickly and that took him 6 hours to have up and running

  • @alleosussquirt8041
    @alleosussquirt8041 5 років тому +32

    "The secret ingredient is crime."

  • @Spongezipper
    @Spongezipper 5 років тому +13

    So Jagex didn't have back-end validation for tons of things, that's really bad.

  • @JesseHDG
    @JesseHDG 5 років тому +43

    You have become the most notorious OS RuneScape investigative journalist.

    • @yaboyflvckor456
      @yaboyflvckor456 4 роки тому +1

      J db you mean a SNITCH. Whata tite “a snitch”

  • @DdosedRS
    @DdosedRS 5 років тому +17

    Imagine if jagex just updated the official client with QOL stuff that 3rd party clients have... simple as that pretty much

    • @majamystic256
      @majamystic256 5 років тому +9

      like the ability to see how much my bank tabs are worth, i wish the offical client had that feature

    • @mike623030
      @mike623030 5 років тому +6

      @@majamystic256 that is cheating you should take each tab out and use the checker how dare you want to have things a bit easier
      that a joke btw

    • @TaggedByTim
      @TaggedByTim 5 років тому +4

      @@mike623030 God I can't believe you would say something like that. I remember having to just shout out random prices until someone bought the item. You fucking casuals and you QoL changes are ruining the game smh my head (kappa)

  • @jameslacey01
    @jameslacey01 5 років тому +101

    Runelite Plus is NOT the same thing as Runelite. Two completely different clients.

    • @whyherro5077
      @whyherro5077 5 років тому +4

      @@turok357 Anything automated is botting. Hope you're account gets banned :)

    • @dant765
      @dant765 5 років тому +34

      @@whyherro5077 your*
      You're = You are
      You learn something new everyday.

    • @magnistify
      @magnistify 5 років тому +13

      @@dant765 Shut the fuck up

    • @CalisthenicTraining
      @CalisthenicTraining 5 років тому

      they are tough
      both 3 pc

    • @vx90080
      @vx90080 5 років тому

      You're right James, they've also recently rebranded to OpenOSRS or OPRS for short, so no more Runelite Plus!

  • @SirPugger
    @SirPugger  5 років тому +6

    Remember: these advantages have nothing to with OSBuddy or RL! This video is not commentary on them.

    • @Daylend1337
      @Daylend1337 5 років тому +2

      I said this above but you should consider changing the title. Blanketing these features under all "third party clients" makes the issue seem more widespread than it really is, and will cause a lot of outrage, which will harm the clients that play by the rules. Everything in this video is very underground and basically botting. It's discouraged by all the main third party clients, even RL+.

    • @tonys3087
      @tonys3087 5 років тому +2

      Okay but you keep putting images of OSB/RuneLite on your video and throughout it which gives people who just enjoy regular third-party clients a bad name and therefore harms the experience for those people because you're being extremely misleading.

    • @SirPugger
      @SirPugger  5 років тому

      @@tonys3087 the images appear when I talk mainly about how the stuff in the video is NOT related to those two clients

    • @yashsutaria8649
      @yashsutaria8649 4 роки тому

      Echo Hes not going to change the title because its clickbait for him... lol

  • @Swiizzey
    @Swiizzey 5 років тому +23

    As a software engineer I find it laughable that these bugs could even exist in RuneScape... but then again if you look at the pathetic salaries Jagex pays their devs I suppose it makes sense... Their codebase is probably full-on spaghetti at this point.

    • @Postaldude__
      @Postaldude__ 2 роки тому +3

      iirc they've admitted to rs having spaghetti code lol

    • @RepentInReprise
      @RepentInReprise 2 роки тому +1

      Mmmm. Spaghetti.

  • @hadesofshadows3622
    @hadesofshadows3622 5 років тому +7

    someone please bring me back to the (actual) 2007 runescape era..

    • @Aqua_Gino
      @Aqua_Gino Рік тому +1

      Same here lol. I started playing in 2003. After a number of good years I quit (having a life and all). Eventually I've tried replaying the game in the OSRS era. But it just hasn't been the same. Too many bots ruining the game, the grand exchange makes things too easy, and there's too many people focused solely on XP and item gains rather than on having a good time together... It will never be the way it was. So yeah, I too wish I could time travel back to the golden years. ;-)

  • @uncomfortableshirt
    @uncomfortableshirt 5 років тому +103

    "He used a voice modifier" hahahaha... These people think they're on the FBI most wanted list.

    • @Bebop79
      @Bebop79 5 років тому +15

      Pretty sure the dev who was in the video is also a well known 3rd party client dev who is hiding his voice so he doesn't get called out for it and all his accounts are banned.

    • @OPOP-tp8ro
      @OPOP-tp8ro 5 років тому +9

      @@Bebop79 It was less about account bans, and more about pissing the community I come from off. I also, wanted to stay somewhat anonymous.

    • @gsxboy4980
      @gsxboy4980 5 років тому +1

      @@OPOP-tp8ro How do we know you aren't just some guy pretending to be him?

    • @OPOP-tp8ro
      @OPOP-tp8ro 5 років тому +2

      @@gsxboy4980 it's me.

    • @punchiegzon5404
      @punchiegzon5404 5 років тому

      @@OPOP-tp8ro Hey OP OP. Hit me up on discord. I'd love to talk to you. I am also fairly experienced in this field.
      Discord: BRANDON#8124

  • @floralutsch6535
    @floralutsch6535 5 років тому +12

    Seems like people need to get their inferno cape removed.

  • @silverhawk7324
    @silverhawk7324 5 років тому +10

    What did the developers expect? The age of automation is here and OSRS with its plethora of mundane tasks is a prime target for it. Other games that are falling victim to it are Eve Online, WOW, and even Warframe to name a few. When your game is being automated to this extent, something is fundamentally wrong/obsolete with the game itself. Adapt or get left behind Jagex.

    • @mike623030
      @mike623030 5 років тому

      uhhh no it called osrs for a reason you let this shit in buh bye game now runelite plugin were not over powered but runelite plus and the lastest osb defiantly are i dont want a client switching prays for me or even items i enjoy the challenge

    • @lampisfun1139
      @lampisfun1139 5 років тому

      The game itself is in a genre of mechanics that easily lends itself to become automated. This is not really something that can be fixed without actually changing the game itself. They "could" make bot detection much more sophisticated but they would be plunging a crap ton of money into the expertise required to make that kind of stuff happen. People who do that for a living generally make much better money elsewhere.

    • @jffry890
      @jffry890 5 років тому

      They did fix it. In RS3.

  • @daniels.1117
    @daniels.1117 5 років тому +19

    God damn Dranor Manor music, I swear.

  • @bjfbnbnsu
    @bjfbnbnsu 5 років тому +2

    Having switched from RS3 to OS like 2 months ago I started on the OS client and switching has been much better for most reasons that people use them. What's strange to me is that RS3 has similar things in it that people use OSB or Runelite for. In their Runemetrics software it shows your xp rates, DPS rates, GP/H and has a drop log. Not nearly as convenient as the item drop overlay but it does help see something you might have missed. The only real issue is that they charge you for it so that could be a reason they haven't brought it to OS, plus it doesn't have all the other features that people like to use as well.

  • @specific14
    @specific14 4 роки тому +3

    You know a game has some serious respect when even the hackers or cheaters dont give out info that could hurt the game because they care about the game.

  • @aliciar4274
    @aliciar4274 5 років тому +61

    You should definately state that Runelite and Runelite Plus ARE NOT FROM THE SAME CREATORS and Runelite DOES NOT ENDORSE RUNELITE PLUS

    • @MrMikucki
      @MrMikucki 5 років тому

      RL+ is much better then RL

    • @firedskull5015
      @firedskull5015 5 років тому +6

      @@MrMikucki so you are one of those pathetic people who cant play the game themselvee so they use overpowered clients.

    • @vx90080
      @vx90080 5 років тому

      Runelite Plus no longer exists, it was changed to OpenOSRS

    • @MrMikucki
      @MrMikucki 5 років тому

      still exists its just a name and logo change. they didnt want people thinking they were related to RL

    • @aliciar4274
      @aliciar4274 5 років тому

      @@MrMikucki so basically what they're saying is they used runelites name and popularity just to steal clients from the real runelite and get an active player base using their info then they changed their name so it would seem like they didnt want to be related but that was their entire plan?

  • @frenkie6446
    @frenkie6446 5 років тому +9

    You can do barrows without killing all the brothers.

  • @Str8Mario
    @Str8Mario 5 років тому +18

    GET DOWN! SNIPER!
    That'd be hilarious to see in RuneScape. That's a fun little "mod."

    • @biscuit2160
      @biscuit2160 5 років тому +1

      Str8 Mario snipers take the shot

  • @ronaldpouliot8858
    @ronaldpouliot8858 5 років тому +14

    i jus wanna turn my runecbow into a glock now lmao

  • @mavbric
    @mavbric 4 роки тому +1

    I am a software engineer who has worked with runescape’s API. Programmers do not have access to the “back end of the client”. Runescape clients like Runelite and OSbuddy are exactly that, Clients. Meaning they are the front end.

  • @garretts.2003
    @garretts.2003 5 років тому +30

    They need to hire and work directly with runelite. Import runelite into the normal client and ban the rest. Oversee all updates to the official runelite client and stop these cheats before they're released.

    • @tygonmaster
      @tygonmaster 4 роки тому +2

      The shit these botting clients are doing is ALREADY banned. There is just nothing Jagex can do about them. Do, prey-tell, do you think they can "stop these cheats before they are released" when 1. They already are released and 2. They cannot combat 3rd party software abuse at all. If you simply mean stop the from being added to RuneLite....well that is on the dev and does not even need Jagex involvement.

  • @SwordInThroat
    @SwordInThroat 4 роки тому +2

    I was permabanned for using Runelite. It was classified as Macoring (Severe). That was my first offense.

  • @nox_chan
    @nox_chan 5 років тому +60

    this is just botting with extra steps

    • @suparki123
      @suparki123 4 роки тому +3

      From a code efficiency point of view, it's less steps. Runescape takes data from the client in packages, these clients are simply sending those same data packages to the servers. Meanwhile normal bots click for the user and then uses the client to send packages to the server.

    • @tkmaz207
      @tkmaz207 4 роки тому +2

      Ohhhh! La! La! Someone's going to get laid in college!

    • @mangekyourinnegan6537
      @mangekyourinnegan6537 4 роки тому

      @@suparki123 No the packet thing has nothing to do with this. This video has multiple topics being covered. The open source clients allow pluggins that make scripting a "bot" super easy and anyone, even someone who has never touched a string of code in their life, could make one in a matter of hours/days. --- The second topic being discussed, with the person using a voice changer, was that you use to be able to modify packets being sent between the server and yourself, and during this process change things in the packet to make the server think something different. Example used was changing a bronze sword into another item. You could do this with cheat engine back in the day, now it's a bit more difficult but still possible as he was saying, they patched it but there's ways to abuse the patches they implemented. You can still do it on unpatched private servers.

  • @RednasYo
    @RednasYo 5 років тому

    the whole black market side of runescape is so scary, it's legit a business, fkn nuts

  • @theelveage
    @theelveage 5 років тому +11

    3rd party clients can go on as undetected.. Even if Jagex bans them, that would only ban them for the public eye. The underground scene will still have the unfair advantages.

    • @Lucas-ur5su
      @Lucas-ur5su 5 років тому +1

      I think youre wrong jagex can identify if youre using a 3rd party client just not which one and thats the main dilemma bc if they ban all 3rd party clients they can get rid of bots and abusers easier but you wont have your item armadyl in green and ur prims in red

    • @ozeki6
      @ozeki6 5 років тому

      Jagex can identify if you're using a 3rd part client. However, they only ban you if you're abusing it somehow. For example, you won't get banned if you play the game legit on a botting client like dreambot but you will get banned if you use the client to bot.

    • @Dewskerz
      @Dewskerz 5 років тому

      There are plenty of methods to detect if the main client is being used or not. Perfect example is other esports titles like Fortnite. it's really hard to cheat in it.

  • @RC_ALL_DAY
    @RC_ALL_DAY 5 років тому +6

    I miss old school Runescape pking when People dint use F keys, spec n tab.
    In that era People would mess Up esayer, People would even stay THE whole fight..
    Dont get me wrong, i like f Keys, but i wish there was 1 "normal" PvP world.

  • @G0ldyl0ks
    @G0ldyl0ks 5 років тому +7

    I love what you’re doing SirPugger! Seriously. Not only informative and interesting, but bringing light to all these issues, problems, bugs, etc. I really appreciate all the time and work you’ve been putting into your videos. Great job man.

  • @MegaChickenfish
    @MegaChickenfish 5 років тому +22

    I always wondered how people in pvp had these superhuman reflexes. Turns out they didn't, they just cheat! That makes me feel at least a little better about myself.

  • @kingjaries
    @kingjaries 5 років тому +3

    Nice vid! Always interesting to see the underground of what goes on in RS

  • @furchad3574
    @furchad3574 4 роки тому

    In My Opinion...
    Okay Things
    - Ease Of Life (Monster HP - Item Names On Drop)
    - Visual Changes (Lower Graphics - Gun Instead Of Bow)
    -Bank Calculator

  • @Skills4life2012
    @Skills4life2012 5 років тому +4

    Depends on the plugin, 3rd party clients make the game fun but not when theres certain plugins ruin it for all

  • @totalanonymous8180
    @totalanonymous8180 4 роки тому +2

    The person hiding their voice is Framed. Talks like him, plays like him, and even sounds like him.

  • @groundcontrol6876
    @groundcontrol6876 5 років тому +7

    They should call the client “WooxLite”

  • @addadd1597
    @addadd1597 5 років тому +1

    I use Runelite almost entirely for the GPU rendering feature and animation smoothing. I do use a few other subtle features, like bank value and item stats, but other than that, I have no use for the vast majority of Runelite's plugins. Jagex could fix plenty of its problems by taking a few pages from Runelite's book and updating their own client.

  • @imnotyou23
    @imnotyou23 5 років тому +6

    All of this is possible on Runelite since it's open sourced.

  • @MMasterr
    @MMasterr 5 років тому +30

    everyone here forgetting that osbuddy was a botting client back in the day, now they surprised it's removing player input from tasks

    • @lampisfun1139
      @lampisfun1139 5 років тому

      Jacob Allen not surprised, just disappointed

    • @daunixd2364
      @daunixd2364 5 років тому +2

      are u forgetting that the owner of that old osbot worked for jagex after he shut down the client ?

    • @trollsalwayswin6693
      @trollsalwayswin6693 5 років тому +1

      Anyone using these clients is really stupid if they think their info isn’t being saved.

    • @ultratronger
      @ultratronger 4 роки тому +1

      @@trollsalwayswin6693 oh no my info is being saved, just like with google, facebook, apple, the fbi, the interpol, and literally everything

  • @smiddy515
    @smiddy515 5 років тому +16

    SirPugger is actually Tekashi 6ix9ine

    • @ahmadbigboi1029
      @ahmadbigboi1029 5 років тому +1

      Smiddy Fiveonefive lmaoooo

    • @SomeGuy037
      @SomeGuy037 5 років тому

      Doesnt matter if hes exposing the crooked side of third party clients/bots to try to make the game better right?

    • @smiddy515
      @smiddy515 5 років тому

      @@SomeGuy037 I don't really care tbh but he definitely looks like Randal off of that recess show on Disney channel as a kid

  • @greenleaph5145
    @greenleaph5145 4 роки тому

    I just started using runelite today, but only because I heard you can use WASD controls to pan the camera. In fact, it's the only reason why I use it. Personally, I don't like the fact that it hints me about certain things in game because it makes the game feel unplayable and extremely aidful. Jagex should start a poll to implement WASD controls into their client.

  • @andrebenoit404
    @andrebenoit404 5 років тому +36

    I wish theyd just take runelite and make it the official client already.

    • @geausty
      @geausty 5 років тому +5

      It has some features that don't belong in a default client tbh. It makes many things easier than they should be, and gives players information they shouldn't have. That being said, runelite is super dope and I use it anyway lol.

    • @andrebenoit404
      @andrebenoit404 5 років тому +8

      @@geausty Id go the opposite way and say we should have access to this info

    • @myth2204
      @myth2204 4 роки тому +2

      Lol yeah for sure. I won't play the game without Runelite anymore

    • @dat_boii
      @dat_boii 4 роки тому +4

      @@myth2204 then don't play the game. All you cheaters gotten so reliant on cheating that you can't even play the game normally anymore and you actually think that's a reason the game should be made easier, for cheaters like you lmao riiiight..

    • @myth2204
      @myth2204 4 роки тому +9

      @@dat_boii "Cheating" QoL features aren't cheating. Nothing is inherently unfair about vanilla RuneLite. If you want to stick with the official client go ahead, but many of us have moved on to the better client in light of Jagex not wanting to make the official one more useable.

  • @mcnuggetsferg1685
    @mcnuggetsferg1685 4 роки тому

    The capped the amount of actions per tic because if you stalled and stacked up 1k anything after that 1k would be deleted to stop server crashes, it's a glitch called a flood. You could stall,stack 1k and then teleport out of a safe zone but still have the safe zone effect because the game would delete the command to remove it.

  • @jimpagnini3158
    @jimpagnini3158 5 років тому +6

    would never do these things, but then again, they aren't for runecrafting -_-'

  • @25Buttholes
    @25Buttholes 5 років тому +58

    Videos crazy thought didn’t realize the level of plugins people had on these clients.

    • @acealexander6852
      @acealexander6852 5 років тому +6

      It is absolute cheating and ruins the game. Perhaps all of the alpha male players on this game are secretly 46 year old virgins.

    • @25SouthPark
      @25SouthPark 5 років тому +5

      All of these Tim Allen boys are abusing your methods! Send them on the next Lumbridge Train with the quickness.

    • @devondeangelis6320
      @devondeangelis6320 5 років тому +1

      WOW

    • @Sundiwarrior
      @Sundiwarrior 5 років тому

      hahahahaWOW

  • @snakeingrass823
    @snakeingrass823 5 років тому

    I don’t understand why people are so adamant about finding ways to ruin a game that we all love.. it’s stupid as fuck.. I don’t even play anymore because of shit like this. The hitting, the gold farming/real world trading, the big abuse, the 3rd party clients and scripts that give the people who choose to use them an enormous advantage over someone who plays the game straight.... like, why even play the game if you are just bottling or trying to figure out ways to break it..? It’s just pathetic that people will literally ruin something for others because they’re lazy or bored or want to try and make a profit off of a video game.

  • @BenBenBenBenBenBenBenBenBenB
    @BenBenBenBenBenBenBenBenBenB 5 років тому +6

    Pay the developers of Runelite whatever they want to join the Jagex team, make Runelite the official client, and ban anything else.

  • @Daylend1337
    @Daylend1337 5 років тому +1

    NONE of these advantages are available in the mainstream clients. Not even runelite+ (now OpenOSRS) supports this stuff. They actively discourage it and won't help you if you ask. This is all shady bot stuff and much much more likely to be detected and banned. Also, runelite+ is a fork of runelite, both are open source, so both have the potential to be abused so it's not really fair to point fingers and blame either one of them. On top of that, because a lot of this stuff is so underground, there's a very small portion of the community abusing this stuff. 99% of people using third party clients have no idea half of this stuff even exists.

  • @gavinwise693
    @gavinwise693 4 роки тому +15

    sir pugger is the type of dude that reminds the teacher about homework

  • @divisejohnson1951
    @divisejohnson1951 4 роки тому

    ...I got a Gold Marker ad for RuneScape on this video, are you freaking *kidding me?*

  • @ikejohnson5494
    @ikejohnson5494 4 роки тому +11

    “Rs3 is easyscape” -oldschoolers with modded clients

    • @StreetSWAT
      @StreetSWAT 4 роки тому

      I had a buddy tell me that because I used runelite and he played on rs3 . . lmao 2xXIP was happening on rs3 once and decided to hop in and found the only thing runelite did was get me a little closer to the level of ease as rs3. but rs3 is still incredibly easier to skill up.

    • @euripides2134
      @euripides2134 4 роки тому +1

      @@StreetSWAT Ok, but at least in RS3 the playing field is level.

  • @usnluna1395
    @usnluna1395 Рік тому

    Apparently there was a packet thing that allowed you to change a drop. Say like you were killing goblins you were able to make it so it only dropped goblin mails. As far as I know the guys that used it didn't really abuse it. Like one guy completely removed the chance of getting bones from cows. Another made it so he'd get burnt pie from cooking shrimp. And my friend set it so that men dropped only buckets. And woman only dropped daggers. (I saw clips years ago but that was before discord was even a thing)

  • @Fatacemcafee
    @Fatacemcafee 5 років тому +27

    Osrs: rs3 is to easy
    Also Osrs: let's use 3rd party clients to make things easy

    • @mike623030
      @mike623030 5 років тому

      no it does not make it easy more qol having these hacks in this video is shit having the demonic gorilla in rune lite was not abuse it helped me slightly but i still had to switch just did not need to count kinda the same as having the loot tracker imo

    • @MrStealYoBeef
      @MrStealYoBeef 5 років тому +5

      My issue with rs3 isn't that it's too easy but instead that it's an MTX infested hellscape. I don't want to spin the wheel of free shit, and I don't want people to be able to pay money to spin the wheel of free shit to get advantages over me. I don't want double xp weekends. I don't want the shitty EoC. OSRS is already going too far with power creep and XP gain creep, it's pretty obvious and there's already clear examples.

    • @tygonmaster
      @tygonmaster 4 роки тому

      @kees abel Not sure if you are joking or not....because OSRS has minigame teles....

    • @user-mi9tw8ex1l
      @user-mi9tw8ex1l 3 роки тому

      @@MrStealYoBeef you’re stuck in the past. Osrs is just more boring than rs3. That’s the difference

  • @MCshadr217
    @MCshadr217 3 роки тому

    Simple rule of programming, Sir Pugger: All programmers can read the exact same language, and all have the ability to read through a coding just a couple of times, and understand how it works, and how to edit it. Pretty ridonkulous.

  • @multibait4510
    @multibait4510 5 років тому +3

    3rd party client abuse has BEEN out of control for years

  • @Tntpker
    @Tntpker 5 років тому +12

    Jagex needs to ban all 3rd party clients after implementing essential plugins in their own client such as ground item markers and tile markers

    •  5 років тому +1

      Manipulating internet packages wont be fixed with the ban of 3rd party clients.

    • @cathuria5818
      @cathuria5818 5 років тому

      I literally just want xp calculators is all

    • @TaggedByTim
      @TaggedByTim 5 років тому

      @@cathuria5818 I just want ground items and bank tab values. It can't be that hard right?

  • @YankDj
    @YankDj 5 років тому +20

    Viral didnt tell you he also hacked like 100s of accounts lol

    • @7evive
      @7evive 5 років тому +2

      Yup. He did

  • @Jrez
    @Jrez 4 роки тому

    Not wanting to release info on what's exploitable is not protecting the game, it's protecting the exploiters.

  • @taberquigley
    @taberquigley 5 років тому +45

    Jagex should hire guys like this to fix these things

    • @smallrossy
      @smallrossy 5 років тому

      @@OMGitshimitis Woox is a programmer

    • @gallegom58
      @gallegom58 5 років тому +4

      They have no money lol

    • @droxxy94
      @droxxy94 5 років тому +1

      Gielinorian based on propaganda nothing you said you have any facts to base it on at all 😂 tin foil hat season

    • @smiddy515
      @smiddy515 5 років тому

      I mean just because he speaks to people and finds bots doesn't mean he can solve the problem.
      They don't want to solve the problem.
      Bots are a tonne of their income. Also who says he has any coding experience at all? Also, yeah. Jagex pay a shitty wage in a very expensive area to live.

    • @joezabinski576
      @joezabinski576 5 років тому +1

      Hillarious.... spend more money for what? You fucking dolts voted down any way for jagex to make extra money with sponsors. Cant have it both ways bitches

  • @brewergamer
    @brewergamer 5 років тому

    This is why I went back to playing World Of Warcraft, Blizzard is ALOT more serious about stopping stuff like botting and hacking. Jagex has hit record levels of profit but still just has 1 guy to deal with it all but they got a whole team focusing on microtransactions. Open source third party clients should not be allowed period.

  • @ezg5221
    @ezg5221 5 років тому +6

    Rule 0 of online game design is "Never trust the client".

  • @crazyadam9281
    @crazyadam9281 5 років тому

    I use runelite for four things and those are 1. puzzlebox clue step 2. loot tracking 3. farming timers and 4. highlighted agility hitboxes to see where to click.

  • @LITHIKOVmusic
    @LITHIKOVmusic 5 років тому +13

    I've been waiting ages for a respectable content creator to finally make a video about this.
    Thank you, Sir Pugger.
    Our silent guardian. Our watchful protector.

  • @juiceboxcommando
    @juiceboxcommando 5 років тому

    3rd Party clients are absolutely getting out of control, that's undeniable. But it's equally as obvious that the only reason people are using these clients is because the main client isn't good enough. Like, we understand that we're playing a game called "Old School Runescape", but the main client is so outdated and lacking in quality of life improvements that Jagex just isn't willing to implement that it feels awful when playing on it.

  • @Budabaii
    @Budabaii 5 років тому +7

    i was in discord with a friend of mine last year, he wrote a dead simple dart making AHK script that was completely automated. all of us in the discord were calling him insane for using it on his main account. He had all the darts banked to get 99 fletching, and did so in about 5 hours.
    tick perfect dart making with teleporting mouse movement. we had bets going between our friends group on how far he'd make it before auto detection banned him. He's still happily playing this account. It kind of destroyed my perception of the auto detection system. I guess popular botting scripts are what make it detectable, if you can write your own scripts, you'll likely get away with it. (I DON'T CONDONE IT THOUGH)

    • @TehGettinq
      @TehGettinq 5 років тому

      yh dude i legit made a fighting script in 2hours and it maxed melee in f2p, no ban.

    • @gamedogalameda
      @gamedogalameda 5 років тому

      Gettinq did you do that with ahk?

    • @TehGettinq
      @TehGettinq 5 років тому

      @@gamedogalameda nah i meant an actual bot. Used java.

  • @gamewithadam7235
    @gamewithadam7235 5 років тому +2

    How many people like me just use the regular client?

  • @MinnickRS
    @MinnickRS 5 років тому +6

    and this is why we don't risk fight anymore, you just never know whats skill or fake anymore.

  • @jordanm2732
    @jordanm2732 4 роки тому +1

    It is always up to the server to validate requests made by the client - the server should be preventing clients from issuing alching/agility movements faster than the number of ticks that is allowed - you should never trust the client to behave

  • @gewooneensnotneus4947
    @gewooneensnotneus4947 5 років тому +25

    Can anybody tell me which clients these are, asking for a friend

    • @pinki6372
      @pinki6372 5 років тому

      VSwitcher.

    • @superman00
      @superman00 5 років тому

      OpenOSRS (old name was RuneLitePlus) it's open source.

  • @Kevinofrepublic
    @Kevinofrepublic 5 років тому

    As a person who quit osrs 2 years ago but plays a 2007 runescape private server and still reads the subreddit and watches videos about osrs I cant help but think "damn. The game is ruined. The players are ruined."

  • @z3m0s
    @z3m0s 5 років тому +4

    9:42 "Thirty party clients"

  • @jammydodger1449
    @jammydodger1449 4 роки тому

    I'm a software developer, I'd like to know why the hell these people have access to the backend of the client? Have they used a decompiler or something?

  • @pigfish99
    @pigfish99 5 років тому +7

    to be honest, I'm fine with the vanilla client, and just banning all other clients overall. of course, the vanilla client needs a bit of a tune up, but given how the situation with these 3rd party ones, it might be Jagex's nuclear option.
    I do wish that Runelite's devs help work with jagex with the vanilla client at least. that'd be a win win

    • @dayumgirlRS
      @dayumgirlRS 5 років тому

      Only scrubs and people still thinking osrs is oldschool would say this.

  • @smoggy6849
    @smoggy6849 2 роки тому

    I remember back in the way when the only bug people would do was moonwalk by the willlows at draynor bank

  • @Philgob
    @Philgob 5 років тому +5

    0:32 "and have ed-ed-ed-ed"

    • @ArloeMew
      @ArloeMew 5 років тому +2

      Saying "edited it" is just saying edit twice

    • @Vulcanized
      @Vulcanized 4 роки тому

      @@ArloeMew b r u h

  • @DaAmazinStaplr
    @DaAmazinStaplr 4 роки тому

    Just a heads up, one of your ads that’s playing before your video is a RS Gold Selling ad.

  • @rob7736
    @rob7736 5 років тому +6

    9:40 30 party clients? Jk! Great video

  • @whaleclouds
    @whaleclouds 4 роки тому +1

    I remember when Saradomin Sword had unlimited special attack points

  • @vuralaktas1159
    @vuralaktas1159 5 років тому +5

    Ffs, I am only looking for some bedtime content, why you gotta put that creepy soundtrack in all your videos?

  • @xero7087
    @xero7087 4 роки тому

    People who think using runelite is unfair are the same people who rage on splashers because they aren’t “playing the game properly”

  • @beatme58
    @beatme58 5 років тому +7

    yeah that guy better use a voice modulator. his mom might recognise him

    • @gabrielv1856
      @gabrielv1856 3 роки тому

      The original voice is there, if you get how his voice is changed you can imagine the original

  • @thefrostforce2545
    @thefrostforce2545 4 роки тому

    Fun stuff. I wrote a black jack script for runelite some time ago, talked about it in the discord and it was patched(in runelite) like 2 weeks later. They for sure try their best to keep a layer of separation between the core client code and the "open source" stuff. But people way smarter than me are surely able to hook in and do what they will.

  • @MrSimpsondennis
    @MrSimpsondennis 5 років тому +7

    "I don't condone people manipulating packages, I just do it myself"
    =_=

    • @lampisfun1139
      @lampisfun1139 5 років тому

      ThatEditingBaka he said he's shutting it down. Maybe he condoned it in the past but obviously he doesn't anymore

  • @scopedbambi2382
    @scopedbambi2382 3 роки тому +1

    I use RL now because I literally have to, If you go into pvp without knowing the other person's stats before hand you could get screwed over . . . I got sick of others looking me up when normally some of my skills that would give me a slight advantage would be to low to be seen on high scores being pulled up with RL and me being skipped when it came to low lvl stakes or just trying to look trash with red hides while pking with 95 range and a magic short bow. I feel a large portion of pvp is and should be hiding your ace when the fight could be decided by a 1 or 2 max hit difference I would rather fight people who don't already know what I can hit. lol I just so happen to fall short of 1 def pures maxed combat lvls atm on one of my acc, the void pure atm 50 att 80 str 87 range 79 mage ( I know I'm working on it ) and mainly like to pick on rune - barrow gear users as easy prey but keep getting tracked down by maxed pures that can easily out stack my damage and seeing what I risk without veng or freeze I am a ripe target.

  • @ContactingTheDead
    @ContactingTheDead 5 років тому +5

    Jagex could just....oh, I don't know, update their own client and give us security AND options...

  • @kevinblech6308
    @kevinblech6308 5 років тому

    The OsBuddy Addon for Single Click Pray, Construction and Blackjack was removed

  • @kavtind
    @kavtind 5 років тому +5

    It feels so pointless when I have put endless of hours into my account to get 99's and then see people have achieved the same through botting/cheating :/

    • @MichaelChiklisCares
      @MichaelChiklisCares 5 років тому

      delete your account and get a cat.

    • @kavtind
      @kavtind 5 років тому +1

      @Kingsley Comen What's the point of playing runescape when you just bot the stats anyway?

    • @joshblank
      @joshblank 5 років тому

      @@kavtind It allows you to play only the content you want. Unlocks it for you without wasting hours of your life. I botted 7 99s before my 2 day ban.

    • @MidnightAhri
      @MidnightAhri 5 років тому +1

      mehh, im maxed, did it for myself, now doing my skiller with way less motivation cuz ive done everything once already, but i really dont care how other ppl get shit done, just that obv cheating should be banned... stuff that effects me like economy etc

    • @regularguy7517
      @regularguy7517 5 років тому +1

      who cares? YOU earned those 99's for YOU, some shitty botter cant take that away from you

  • @djhasta5031
    @djhasta5031 5 років тому +1

    List of reason of why you shouldn't give a shit about 3rd party clients:
    1. Fix botting before taking away 3rd party clients
    2. People actually playing
    3. Makes the game enjoyable
    4. Saves us time so we spend time doing real shit in the real world. Basically a Reality Checker
    5. It's almost 2020. Have some decency to upgrade your own clients so we won't have to download other ones
    6. It's better than botting
    7. I dont want carpal tunnel or arthritis from playing OSRS. Let me get that shit naturally
    8. If I get hack, I'll honestly be grateful. Thanks for freeing of this tedious game called Runescape
    9. If you're mad about this, check how long you've been sitting on that chair just cut a damn tree. Seriously tho, how long?

  • @Roel93
    @Roel93 5 років тому +3

    Might aswell give everyone maxed accounts and make everything automatic then.

    • @freshairkaboom8171
      @freshairkaboom8171 5 років тому

      I'm surprised Runelite doesn't have a plugin for that yet

  • @fletcher5148
    @fletcher5148 5 років тому

    i'd say you could probably pull off an NFID and do something like kill corp in an instance on a maxed account, you'd be invincible and nobody would be able to see you. you wouldn't need food or teleports and with some spec transfer alts that wield tbows, or even rune crossbows with ruby bolts. you could contain the entire thing within an instance and never teleport out.

  • @123hattan
    @123hattan 4 роки тому +3

    Automation? This just sounds like botting with extra steps.

    • @ode7686
      @ode7686 3 роки тому

      Ooh la la, somebody's getting laid in college

    • @123hattan
      @123hattan 3 роки тому

      @@ode7686 Definitely the one with a Runescape profile.

  • @hotpenguin607
    @hotpenguin607 5 років тому

    I think the need to allow 10 actions to be completed per tick is to address the fact when u lag, u can queue actions to be sent to the server once the connection resumes
    Some ppl who play FPS uses a device called Lag Switch to essentially force themselves to lag and dodge bullets and kill ppl before they can even see him