Bayley's gimmick is tired. She needs something fresh. I'm tired of everyone talking about Bayley like she's Kurt Angle out there. She's not a great wrestler. Is she better in the ring than Bliss? Sure. But her gimmick is old and Bliss' look is much better. Bayley promos are awful too. Before you mention last week's raw, that was completely a writing problem and had nothing to do with Bliss on the mic.
Bayley has always been overrated. She had a few good matches with Charlotte, Sasha and Becky in NXT and everybody acts like she's female Kurt Angle. She's not. She's always been pretty bad on the mix, decent-ish in the ring. She's fine, but she's not great.
Bliss winning was the right choice, going to such great lengths to destroy Bayley can only be described as backstage retardation. She's able to put on serviceable matches with the right people (Conveniently people who play really good heels), she's able move merch with her gimmick and personality, and she's got NXT cred that could be played up a bit more for the hardcore fans. Hell, why are people cussing out Bayley's in-ring performance when you got more legit targets like Lesnar, a man who only knows two moves? He's literally half a John Cena meme.
PLUMPY O'CLOCK! at the start of the match it was stated that both members of a team must be outside the cage at the same time in order to win the match
not only at the start but the announcers repeated it several times true-out the match to the point where it became slightly annoying. What didn't make sense in my opinion is how matt tried to pull sheamus in when jeff was at the door, of course in kayfabe, he could have just push sheamus, let him fall on his head and just get out after. There were a couple of times like this were the action of both team regarding letting someone escape or not and escaping themself didn't make sense in my opinion but nothing to say about the finish and the match overall was great. the referees opening the door is still bullshit tho, the door should always be locked in cage matches.
in my opinion the cage match made both team look stupid. i mean whay would you not let one guy escape then beat the living crap out of the one guy in the cage 2v1. when the guy got knocked out both of you can just walk out of the cage because cage door is open for some reason.
My complaint is more of a logic thing, and as always I preface this by saying WWE Logic is something no one will every fully know. But think about the finish for a second. Jeff does an amazing spot off of the top of the cage and on to Sheamus and Cesaro. That was the finish, S & C managed to get up first and then climb out to win. To me the spot was really predictable, amazing to watch, but ultimately you knew once he started climbing up the cage instead of going through the door, he was planning on jumping, and the end result was that he hurt himself more than the people he just fell 15 feet on to? Of course all of this could be easily used to start the cracks in the Hardy foundation, in the preshow interview Jeff teased a spot like that, and Matt kind of rolled his eyes and said something like "If he can jump off something he will regardless of how necessary it is".
the door being open makes all cage matches rubbish. in any normal match they can land a grapple and hop out in a second flat. but in a cage it takes 10 seconds to exit the door. stupid. same problem as royal rumble matches. over-selling ruins the match.
WWE rules arent made to make sense but entertain. I like how the cage match went. For a moment i thought it would be a draw. But when the ring announcer said ´´the new...`` everyone legit screamed.
yup came here to point that out. Announcers played it too, once Jeff came back in they mentioned that they were back even and Jeff would also have to escape again. Also, a submission match as far as I am aware isn't a no DQ, it's just pinfalls don't count. PS I agree with the ref spots, hate when they don't ref properly just for the story of the match. Breaks 'kayfabe immersion'. just makes you go 'wot?'
People bitching about PPV not being extreme enough...Well guess what, next time they will probably bitch about PPV not being great and not being on fire.
Kripperino Amanino Berserkerino it's called extreme rules and it started with a match where one of the contestant could lose by getting disqualified, EXTREME.
Plumpy, I thought you were a smartass? The rules of a Steel Cage Tornado Tag Match state that, in order for one team to win, both Wrestlers of a certain Tag Team have to touch the ground. Jeff Hardy wasn't "out" of the match after escaping, he was merely the first person out of two to touch the ground. So him returning to the match made all the sense in the world.
Overall enjoyed the show. Main event and cruiserweight title match were great. I just wish Extreme Rules was TV-14. In my opinion, you can't have a weapon-based ppv with PG guidelines. Either make it TV-14 and go full on with blood and huge ladder and table spots, or move on with the times and don't have it at all. It just makes me sad seeing today's watered down versions of Extreme Rules, Hell in a Cell, Elimination Chamber, etc.
We just gonna ignore the "FIRST Woman to touch the kendo stick is able to use it" rule they were promoting? Alexa shouldn't have been able to use the stick since Bayley grabbed it first...
Plumpy. Watch the cage match again. They literally announce that both people have to be outside at the same time before the enterances. Proper ring announcement and everything. I also seem to recall Cole reiterating this during the match a few times.
At least she didn't lose in like 18 seconds. If Daniel Bryan can come back from that then Bayley can come back from this. The question is though, will she be able to? Or allowed to? Raw has basically been shit for awhile now in terms of its creative direction.
Wasnt the stipulation of the match, the first person to reach the Kendo stick could legally use it in the match? That means Alexa shouldnt have been allowed to use it. WWE are fucking thick and cant enforce their own rules! Bad all round!
I know this won't happen, but WWE may pull another Swerve by making the match against Brock no Dq, and with the help of Braun's Interference, Joe wins the title thus The Title is back on a Daily basis, Brock still has his match with Braun at Summerslam. For Wrestlemania, Brock vs Roman would just be enough hype needed to attract the casual fans, cause they have a legitimate angle. Both men has beaten Undertaker at Mania, and that is enough to get all the hype, putting a Title on that is kind of a waste of another potential Good match.
What we want: Super competitive 40 min match where a bloody Samoa Joe wins and becomes a full time monster heel with a year long title reign. What we'll get: Suplex, Suplex, Suplex, F5, Suplex, F5, Lesnar wins. See you at Summerslam nerds!
The Seedy Waffle Yes, but in terms of any other times they've had tag steel cages, the second person could come back in and it wouldn't reset the match. this was the only one that fucked up that rule and everyone is thrown off by it
ProjectHomeProductions I honestly can't recall a time where that was the case. I've always thought it was standard for both members of the same team to be out of the cage at the same time to get the win.
The Church Of Scientology I've been wondering the same thing. they've made a big deal that the first person to grab the kendo stick can use it legally. It made no sense to have the kendo stick on a pole if both people can use it.
Cheyenne Shannon Vince Russo was having the time of his life with that match. To him it had everything it needed, two great wrestlers, a stipulation that involved something on a pole and a terrible finish!
Paul Pery I understand they didn't say the other person couldn't but their phrasing was so poor that it made it seem like only the person who got it from the pole could use it. That is how it should have been anyway otherwise the pole is pointless.
Cesaro Fan it will be a squash match. Brock winning. Brock won't want to do what Joe wants, Brock will be lazy and just throw Joe around with his shitty suplexes.
1005rhys my point exactly. Everyone is getting their hopes up for this match, I feel it could be devastating for Joe's character to lose to Brock in a squash manner.
I think Extreme Rules was a great show, but it could have used another moment or two to pop the crowd. The Heels won just about everything, including all the title matches and the main event. I guess Baltimore was happy for Rich Swan, but I don't think too many people at home cared about the mixed tag match. I would have given the crowd a few more things to be exited for, but other than that, it was excellent. Tweaks I would have made to the show: 1: I would have let either the Hardy Boyz or Ambrose retain at the PPV. This would give the show a signature babyface win, and allow WWE to have the title in question change hands tonight on Raw instead, perhaps helping with the recent ratings issues. 2: I'd have Heath Slater run in on the Drifter's song/promo, earning a huge pop and setting off some sort of fun lower card 'battle of the bands' type feud. 3: At the beginning of the main event, when Roman was just standing and watching the other four men go at it, I'd have them all recognize it, slowly stop what they are doing, turn to Roman, and all four gang up on him for a huge pop. Roman could eat Rollins' new knee thing, Sister Abigail, a Muscle Buster, and a Coup de Grace through an announce table, popping the smarky crowd big time and writing Roman out of the beginning phase of the match. Later, Vince can get what he wants when Roman makes his comeback and looks strong.
Love your videos, analysis and humor. Cannot WAIT for Joe vs. Lesnar! I really hope they give them the proper 22-25 minutes to put on the five-star potential classic these two are capable of.
Kalisto vs Apollo Crews - OK I guess, wonder where it's going. I love Titus O'Neil though. 6/10 The Miz vs Ambrose - Great match, good finish, right guy won. 8/10 Swann & Banks vs Dar & Fox - Didn't care, didn't like, in-ring performance was OK I guess. stop this feud. 5/10 Bliss vs Bayley - Right person won, but it was a glorified squash match. 5/10 Sheasaro vs Hardys - Good match, good finish. The rules were constantly being shoved down your throat, so not dodgy rules Plumpy. 7/10 Neville vs Austin Aries - Really good match, some false finishes, just amazing as always between Neville and Aries. 8/10 Fatal-5-Way - Brilliant, not boring for a second, everybody had their moments, really good swerve finish, I'm glad Samoa Joe is being pushed, never thought WWE would give him anything more than a couple of IC and US titles. 9/10 Overall - Good pay-per-view. Couple of surprise results, not too many. 2 title changes, overall really good matches, properly built. Makes me want to watch RAW tomorrow. 7,5/10
To everyone saying they never saw Joe winning the Fatal 5-way match are you blind? Think about it he was brought up from NXT to be Triple H's puppet... Of course they are going to push him. I knew the night the match was announced he was going to win it and he will go on to beat Lesnar. If you kiss the right asses good things are going to happen for you in the WWE don't believe me just go back and look at the history.
Joe is really not gonna beat Brock. Everyone in the fatal 5way plus Stroman are gonna be fed to Brock. when the road to wrestlemania starts, Romans gonna win the rumble and go on to beat Brock at mania solidifying him as the top guy in wwe
Way to pay attention to the commentary team Plumpy. Cole mentioned it like sixty times that both team-members had to be outside of the ring AT THE SAME TIME!
This is the same guy who had a spastic fit when Jinder won, I expected him to just get angry when he didn't know something instead of trying to figure it out.
Seems pretty obvious that Vince has soured on Bayley (probably because she isn't hot enough for him to ogle) and has just ordered her to be buried so he can get rid of her. Because what would you fucking expect from Vince.
Mmmm... no, she's a really good wrestler being booked fucking awfully and you wouldn't know a good wrestler if they gave you a Burning Hammer in a ball pit.
Don't think it has anything to do with Vince. People were tired of the boring story being repeated with her about how much of a geeky fan she is. She needs a reset and hopefully this squash is a way to do it. They pushed her too early and her matches have been pretty average on the main roster.
Alexa Bliss got immediately pushed on both brands and she's a mediocre wrestler. Her only good match was when Bayley carried her at Payback. This entire feud has been a disaster and it doesn't have anything to do with the competitors. The booking has been really bad. The better way to reset Bayley would've been a Sasha heel turn and feud that's already been proven to produce MOTY contenders. Plus, come on. Bayley beat Charlotte clean at Mania and ended her PPV streak at Fastlane and she gets squashed? Ridiculous.
I just saw your promo for WCPW about hate speech and already signed for the petition. I just wanted to say that it was really amazing seeing seeing you defend wrestling and making sure that it never got diverted into "F@ck UA-cam " chants. I hope that they change their policy and that the program can go on as it has for the past twelve months for all the wrestling fans that can't have access to this sort of content in our countries. Best of luck!
Al Wilkins He's just concerned because he values them and their talent. I can relate because I felt the same way when I first saw Austin Aries (I'm not that avid of a wrestling fan) and I just hoped that's part of his brilliance and not him being risky or dangerous.
but Sasha is kind of sloppy. I mean she's good but sometimes I'm legit scared for her. remember that suicide dive landing on her face then bending back on her neck? that shit's scary.
I was at the show. It really was a good live show the crowd was super into the whole show. I was really surprised that Alexa Bliss was getting way more cheers than Bayley. Also, it's hard to describe the level of hate the live crowd has for Roman Reigns. I was also genuinely surprised that Samoa Joe won the main event. Top to bottom, a really good and solid PPV from an attendee's perspective.
They said multiple times that both members of a team had to be outside at the same time. At least I interpreted it that way. It made sense to me and ended how I expected.
I know a lot of people don't like how wwe is treating Face Rollins but I really like it, the triple H feud really helped, and as of last night the crowd is still behind him a lot, got one of the biggest pops of the night. He needs one more face/heel feud with a big star before he chases the title again.
As much as a lot of people think Roman can't wrestle but seeing him block the kick from Finn early on was great, it isnt a big thing but it was something to see him use his brain in the ring. I am a Roman fan and would love to see him be allowed to extend his repertoire over time.
The rules of the cage match was both members of one team have to be out of the cage, Jeff can get in and out all he wants if he is still in/on the cage when Matt gets out then they haven't won. How do you find that so hard to understand?
I don't know if a lot of people realized the sudden/subtle plug Michael Cole did while the cage was being lowered.. he said "In order to win, BOTH teammates should be out of the ring"
OBSOLETE Broadcasts besides the fact that Brock wrestles one live show every 3 months and barely shows up for any of the other ones then I would agree with you
It does make sense cause someone could just leave the cage at the beginning, get back in for the WHOLE match and just try to get their teammate out. They have to be punished for leaving their teammate alone if they go back in.
I liked it. I like that the "extreme rules" didn't feel as gimmicky as like a TLC PPV or having multiple Hell in a Cell matches. My only real issue at the end was how FAST the ref calls for the bell now on sleepers. I don't really need the dramatic "three hand drops" to be a thing, but Finn seemed to pass out SUPER fast. Would have liked a little more struggle in that final spot.
The announcement before the cage match clearly said "both teammates must have both feet touching the ground at the same time." Not a rule that has been implemented or at least emphasized before, but a rule that they made almost too obvious tonight, if you listened.
I didn't watch it live and I was skipping watching all the entrances, and when I tried to skip the entrance for Bliss vs Bayley I just heard JoJo saying "And still your RAW Women's Champion Alexa Bliss" and I thought it was part of the promo package but I'd accidentally skipped the whole match.
WhatCulture, where's the wrestling petition? You should put that link, in other vids besides the promo one. Near 47k+ signatures, but you know what's better? 48k+ and so on and so fourth.
vince after the match: WHAT HAPPENED??????????, I SAID A SAMOAN CALLED JOE, NOT SAMOA JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone give Alex a cigar.
alexF1-2005 LMAOOOKO
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This deserves more likes
Hello, officer, I'd like to report a murder. Some incompetent writer just killed Bayley's career.
Bayley's gimmick is tired. She needs something fresh. I'm tired of everyone talking about Bayley like she's Kurt Angle out there. She's not a great wrestler. Is she better in the ring than Bliss? Sure. But her gimmick is old and Bliss' look is much better. Bayley promos are awful too. Before you mention last week's raw, that was completely a writing problem and had nothing to do with Bliss on the mic.
Bayley has always been overrated. She had a few good matches with Charlotte, Sasha and Becky in NXT and everybody acts like she's female Kurt Angle.
She's not. She's always been pretty bad on the mix, decent-ish in the ring. She's fine, but she's not great.
Her personality is basically why she's great - not that we've gotten to see that much in WWE
George Zhang or she just couldn't win.
Bliss winning was the right choice, going to such great lengths to destroy Bayley can only be described as backstage retardation. She's able to put on serviceable matches with the right people (Conveniently people who play really good heels), she's able move merch with her gimmick and personality, and she's got NXT cred that could be played up a bit more for the hardcore fans.
Hell, why are people cussing out Bayley's in-ring performance when you got more legit targets like Lesnar, a man who only knows two moves? He's literally half a John Cena meme.
The commentators should have made the rules more clear in the cage match. I mean they only mentioned it 24650 times
Ben McMullen and you know how they explained it again during the replay explaining why the hardys didnt win
The announcer said before the tag match that BOTH members of a team must be on the outside at the SAME TIME to win.
this.
I caught that too
Robbie Campbell so?
It still is a very odd rule.
Robbie Campbell and remember Jeff got hit to fall out the cage. He didn't purposely get out of the cage
We already had a Samoan Joe vs Brock Lesnar at mania 31
Justsomeguy incorrect
Totally correct - Roman is Samoan, and his real name is Joe. So we have had a Samoan Joe vs Brock Lesnar before, as justsomeguy said.
the gameing Fox
The joke
Your Head
Lol
Joe is actually Roman's real name and hes Samoan sooooooo....... get it now?
RAW FOOD CHAIN
!. The Eater of Worlds
2.The Demon King
3. The Beast Incarnate
4. The Destroyer
5. The Architect
6. The Big Doggy Dog
dont forget the monster among men
and The Lunatic Fringe
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PLUMPY O'CLOCK!
at the start of the match it was stated that both members of a team must be outside the cage at the same time in order to win the match
DamianGraves102 the commentators even pointed it out when Jeff was on the way back in as well.
not only at the start but the announcers repeated it several times true-out the match to the point where it became slightly annoying.
What didn't make sense in my opinion is how matt tried to pull sheamus in when jeff was at the door, of course in kayfabe, he could have just push sheamus, let him fall on his head and just get out after. There were a couple of times like this were the action of both team regarding letting someone escape or not and escaping themself didn't make sense in my opinion but nothing to say about the finish and the match overall was great. the referees opening the door is still bullshit tho, the door should always be locked in cage matches.
in my opinion the cage match made both team look stupid. i mean whay would you not let one guy escape then beat the living crap out of the one guy in the cage 2v1. when the guy got knocked out both of you can just walk out of the cage because cage door is open for some reason.
My complaint is more of a logic thing, and as always I preface this by saying WWE Logic is something no one will every fully know. But think about the finish for a second. Jeff does an amazing spot off of the top of the cage and on to Sheamus and Cesaro. That was the finish, S & C managed to get up first and then climb out to win. To me the spot was really predictable, amazing to watch, but ultimately you knew once he started climbing up the cage instead of going through the door, he was planning on jumping, and the end result was that he hurt himself more than the people he just fell 15 feet on to? Of course all of this could be easily used to start the cracks in the Hardy foundation, in the preshow interview Jeff teased a spot like that, and Matt kind of rolled his eyes and said something like "If he can jump off something he will regardless of how necessary it is".
the door being open makes all cage matches rubbish. in any normal match they can land a grapple and hop out in a second flat. but in a cage it takes 10 seconds to exit the door. stupid.
same problem as royal rumble matches. over-selling ruins the match.
Plumpy needs to buy a new hoodie.
The rule about both of the tag partners being outside of the cage at the same time in order to win was said at the beginning of the match
It's stupid because Jeff did the exact same thing in the 2000's during a steel cage match with edge and Christian and they still won
WWE rules arent made to make sense but entertain.
I like how the cage match went. For a moment i thought it would be a draw. But when the ring announcer said ´´the new...`` everyone legit screamed.
yup came here to point that out. Announcers played it too, once Jeff came back in they mentioned that they were back even and Jeff would also have to escape again.
Also, a submission match as far as I am aware isn't a no DQ, it's just pinfalls don't count.
PS I agree with the ref spots, hate when they don't ref properly just for the story of the match. Breaks 'kayfabe immersion'. just makes you go 'wot?'
YES it was matt this time in the ring and jeff outside some nostalgia for us attitude era kids
David Jaroš you're absolutely right, I hope Adam sees this and apologizes for this, this wasn't a "dodgey rule"
People bitching about PPV not being extreme enough...Well guess what, next time they will probably bitch about PPV not being great and not being on fire.
Kripperino Amanino Berserkerino And not being a load of balls.
Kripperino Amanino Berserkerino it's called extreme rules and it started with a match where one of the contestant could lose by getting disqualified, EXTREME.
The Fizio trust me, the ppv will be a load of balls.
the kripperinos bleed out of the kripp section. LUL
I watched extreme rules all like "It's time for a little blood" but nope, it wasn't.
Plumpy, I thought you were a smartass?
The rules of a Steel Cage Tornado Tag Match state that, in order for one team to win, both Wrestlers of a certain Tag Team have to touch the ground. Jeff Hardy wasn't "out" of the match after escaping, he was merely the first person out of two to touch the ground. So him returning to the match made all the sense in the world.
No he's not he's a smartass.... Ding!
Overall enjoyed the show. Main event and cruiserweight title match were great. I just wish Extreme Rules was TV-14. In my opinion, you can't have a weapon-based ppv with PG guidelines. Either make it TV-14 and go full on with blood and huge ladder and table spots, or move on with the times and don't have it at all. It just makes me sad seeing today's watered down versions of Extreme Rules, Hell in a Cell, Elimination Chamber, etc.
Jake Frazier lol pg ppv. no wonder we can get them for 10 bucks now
the hardy match wasn't bad officiating, jojo said on the mic both members must escape the cage with both members feet on the floor at the same time
who listens to her, shes fit as fuck to busy banging one out over her 😂
We just gonna ignore the "FIRST Woman to touch the kendo stick is able to use it" rule they were promoting? Alexa shouldn't have been able to use the stick since Bayley grabbed it first...
Seriously. They should have just made it a no DQ match or perhaps a tables match.
BoroHD Gaming I thought the same thing.
It's true that it's the first person to touch the stick can use it, but once the stick is in play anyone who has it can use it.
Sunday night RAW was decent
Tyrone titwaffle ur not funny
dylan gross that was pretty funny
dylan gross and you're not straight
oh I get it
Neo Darklighter Actually both match types have occured on Monday Night RAW
Really glad I wasn't high watching this vid, man that background animation would of put me in a whole world of hurt lol good vid tho
Who else was just focusing on the backround
IppeZ gaming During this video, yep. Idk why tho lol
IppeZ gaming me they need to stop with that shot
It really pissed me off that Plumpy wasn't in the exact center of the background XD
Charlie exactly! I had to constantly look away because his positioning bothered me! 😂 OCD and all that!
Persona 5 vibes
Plumpy. Watch the cage match again. They literally announce that both people have to be outside at the same time before the enterances. Proper ring announcement and everything. I also seem to recall Cole reiterating this during the match a few times.
Tony Ortiz who cares?
I do Roy. I do
Me Too.
Clearly, Plumpy cause he´s complaining on first place.
Finally you guys posted this.
#Rematch Den Ambrose vs The Miz NO DQ
RIP Bayley...
Yep, here's the shovel..........
Dasurio good I hate bayley
At least she didn't lose in like 18 seconds. If Daniel Bryan can come back from that then Bayley can come back from this. The question is though, will she be able to? Or allowed to?
Raw has basically been shit for awhile now in terms of its creative direction.
bliss is a good heel though bar that segment. rather her over bayley
Wasnt the stipulation of the match, the first person to reach the Kendo stick could legally use it in the match? That means Alexa shouldnt have been allowed to use it. WWE are fucking thick and cant enforce their own rules! Bad all round!
I know this won't happen, but WWE may pull another Swerve by making the match against Brock no Dq, and with the help of Braun's Interference, Joe wins the title
thus The Title is back on a Daily basis, Brock still has his match with Braun at Summerslam.
For Wrestlemania, Brock vs Roman would just be enough hype needed to attract the casual fans, cause they have a legitimate angle.
Both men has beaten Undertaker at Mania, and that is enough to get all the hype, putting a Title on that is kind of a waste of another potential Good match.
Tipu Sur-Casual fans don't know what the heck a Roman is.
Only one problem, Vince wants Roman in the mainevent. There's no way that Roman and Brock without a world title would mainevent
Tipu Sur This idea is too good for WWE
Undisputed Exclusive they will likely put it on the main event. Rock and Cena did it
Louis Milone-Yeah, Reigns will likely win that.
What we want:
Super competitive 40 min match where a bloody Samoa Joe wins and becomes a full time monster heel with a year long title reign.
What we'll get:
Suplex, Suplex, Suplex, F5, Suplex, F5, Lesnar wins. See you at Summerslam nerds!
This is either gonna suck, or this is gonna make that MMA-style match between Joe and Angle at Lockdown look like a schoolyard fight.
EsxDeth incorrect more like see you at wrestlmania where he drops the belt to reigns
EsxDeth I dont want Joe to win. But yeah, a competitive match would be great.
Joe won't win but a somewhat competitive match is what's needed. Knowing Brock though...
EsxDeth because that would happen in a real fight. Besides, Lesnar has been build as the biggest most destructive wrestler ever.
Anyone else get a little scared when Austin Aries outside the ring and the camera zoomed in on his eerie smiling face
sk8urmind1 omg yeah
Extreme Rules is not extreme anymore.
besides a god damn plastic chair.. yes
there was only one extreme rules match
Bryan Roño Let's call it "Extreme Amount Of Rules".
Mr Tuesday they are keeping the name for nostalgia for ecw
Bryan Roño It's WWE, what do you expect?
The fact that there's only 1 baby face champion in the entire company right now shows how bad they are at building baby faces
listen to the announcer at the beginning of the cage match. the clearly state both members must be out at the same time.
The Seedy Waffle Yes, but in terms of any other times they've had tag steel cages, the second person could come back in and it wouldn't reset the match. this was the only one that fucked up that rule and everyone is thrown off by it
ProjectHomeProductions I honestly can't recall a time where that was the case. I've always thought it was standard for both members of the same team to be out of the cage at the same time to get the win.
This experiment will work
Vince thinks he was talking about Roman
Joe vs. Lesnar!
Tunechieee imagine the fusion of those 2 joe lesnar or samoan brock
Tunechieee samoseph joseph vs choc lesnar
Tunechieee samoseph joseph vs choc lesnar
adam had me dying of laughter with the rich swan dance and when he said "Jeff likes to jump off the tall thing" hahahaha
I thought that who ever had the kendo stick was the only one able to use it? It baffled me when Alexa started using it and wasn't disqualified.
The Church Of Scientology I've been wondering the same thing. they've made a big deal that the first person to grab the kendo stick can use it legally. It made no sense to have the kendo stick on a pole if both people can use it.
Cheyenne Shannon Vince Russo was having the time of his life with that match. To him it had everything it needed, two great wrestlers, a stipulation that involved something on a pole and a terrible finish!
Paul Pery they said whoever grabbed it from the pole could legally use it.
The only rule is that the Kendo stick is a legal weapon. Nothing else was. Pretty simple. Doesn't matter who uses it.
Paul Pery I understand they didn't say the other person couldn't but their phrasing was so poor that it made it seem like only the person who got it from the pole could use it. That is how it should have been anyway otherwise the pole is pointless.
Was the cage match ending that confusing? The announcer did say "at the same time" in the intro.
Joe vs Lesnar is gonna be one of biggest disappointments of 2017 because Lesnar is too lazy to take the business seriously.
Cesaro Fan it will be a squash match. Brock winning. Brock won't want to do what Joe wants, Brock will be lazy and just throw Joe around with his shitty suplexes.
Cesaro Fan yeah but Samos joe is also a beast. He can handle Brock. But depends on the writers man.
1005rhys my point exactly. Everyone is getting their hopes up for this match, I feel it could be devastating for Joe's character to lose to Brock in a squash manner.
I think Extreme Rules was a great show, but it could have used another moment or two to pop the crowd. The Heels won just about everything, including all the title matches and the main event. I guess Baltimore was happy for Rich Swan, but I don't think too many people at home cared about the mixed tag match. I would have given the crowd a few more things to be exited for, but other than that, it was excellent.
Tweaks I would have made to the show:
1: I would have let either the Hardy Boyz or Ambrose retain at the PPV. This would give the show a signature babyface win, and allow WWE to have the title in question change hands tonight on Raw instead, perhaps helping with the recent ratings issues.
2: I'd have Heath Slater run in on the Drifter's song/promo, earning a huge pop and setting off some sort of fun lower card 'battle of the bands' type feud.
3: At the beginning of the main event, when Roman was just standing and watching the other four men go at it, I'd have them all recognize it, slowly stop what they are doing, turn to Roman, and all four gang up on him for a huge pop. Roman could eat Rollins' new knee thing, Sister Abigail, a Muscle Buster, and a Coup de Grace through an announce table, popping the smarky crowd big time and writing Roman out of the beginning phase of the match. Later, Vince can get what he wants when Roman makes his comeback and looks strong.
Rip Bailey's career. We will remember you
So mean and blunt but...so true haha
Lioni Wilkinson Bayley*
WWE wishes her well on her future endeavors....
Lioni Wilkinson good I hate her
Please, if Daniel Bryan can come back from losing in like 18 seconds at freaking Wrestlemania, then Bayley can come back from this.
"Do both people have to be outside of the cage at the same time?"
Yes. Yes, exactly that. It's not complicated.
Ok let's be real, the main event was fucking BRILLIANT!
Sean M It was really good. If anyone think it sucked are those Roman worshippers pissed at the fact that their God Roman didn't win.
Anonymous Assassin Damn right
tbh it's thought roman was going to win since u know wwe don't make sense. I really liked the match and the right person won
Venemofthe888 No one thought Roman would win except casuals. People thought finn was going to win.
Venemofthe888 Roman was never gonna win tbh because they're saving him for Mania 34
Love your videos, analysis and humor. Cannot WAIT for Joe vs. Lesnar! I really hope they give them the proper 22-25 minutes to put on the five-star potential classic these two are capable of.
if joe wins then there's a 99.9999999999999999999992% chance he'll be fed to reigns.
Luke Allsop wym reigns if he should be feuding with anyone it should be Finn 1. he didn't tap 2.never lots a title and still owned a rematch
Luke Allsop no he will fed to balor and balor to seth and seth to roman many short time champs I predict this in the past
A tna refrence brave
*Vince when Samoa Joe won.*
I TOLD YOU A STRONG SAMOANNNN!!! I WAS EXPECTING REIGNS!!! NOT SAMOA JOE!!!
well, reigns is winning at WM 34!
Why aren't you drunk Plumpy?
Kalisto vs Apollo Crews - OK I guess, wonder where it's going. I love Titus O'Neil though. 6/10
The Miz vs Ambrose - Great match, good finish, right guy won. 8/10
Swann & Banks vs Dar & Fox - Didn't care, didn't like, in-ring performance was OK I guess. stop this feud. 5/10
Bliss vs Bayley - Right person won, but it was a glorified squash match. 5/10
Sheasaro vs Hardys - Good match, good finish. The rules were constantly being shoved down your throat, so not dodgy rules Plumpy. 7/10
Neville vs Austin Aries - Really good match, some false finishes, just amazing as always between Neville and Aries. 8/10
Fatal-5-Way - Brilliant, not boring for a second, everybody had their moments, really good swerve finish, I'm glad Samoa Joe is being pushed, never thought WWE would give him anything more than a couple of IC and US titles. 9/10
Overall - Good pay-per-view. Couple of surprise results, not too many. 2 title changes, overall really good matches, properly built. Makes me want to watch RAW tomorrow. 7,5/10
tyg You just repeated what plumpy said
tyg Kalistos match was fantatsic
Guess we agree on a lot. There are still some differences.
To everyone saying they never saw Joe winning the Fatal 5-way match are you blind? Think about it he was brought up from NXT to be Triple H's puppet... Of course they are going to push him. I knew the night the match was announced he was going to win it and he will go on to beat Lesnar. If you kiss the right asses good things are going to happen for you in the WWE don't believe me just go back and look at the history.
Joe is really not gonna beat Brock. Everyone in the fatal 5way plus Stroman are gonna be fed to Brock. when the road to wrestlemania starts, Romans gonna win the rumble and go on to beat Brock at mania solidifying him as the top guy in wwe
Is it just me or the background is just plain distracting
Hemang Lee I swear I thought that was only me
Hemang Lee His fucking voice is distracting.
dont fucking watch then
Way to pay attention to the commentary team Plumpy. Cole mentioned it like sixty times that both team-members had to be outside of the ring AT THE SAME TIME!
This is the same guy who had a spastic fit when Jinder won, I expected him to just get angry when he didn't know something instead of trying to figure it out.
You know your early when Charlotte Flair has net commented yet or Seth Freakin Rollins! #FACTS
I don't think either of them comment on Whatculture
you're*
Come on Plumpy, they explained the rules of the cage match so many times.
OMG Rich Swann actually won his match (if you're wondering what I'm talking about it's that Rich Swann is from Baltimore where extreme rules)
*was)
I left watching this channel 4 months ago but I'm back now and when did people start calling him plumpy?
How WWE should have booked Cesaro after WM 30.
Book It Plumpy
jacob schellen yes plz
Take a shot everytime plumpy says "really"... 😁😁
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I hate comments like this.
DUUUH 2 views but 10 likes UA-cam IS DRUNK ahahahaha
Foh
BobbyX64 why do people even pay attention to this?
Kevin Strom Goldfish attention spans is the answer you seek.
I agree with you on the belt Plumpy. It feels good to have the champion only turn up when it's worth his time, rather a match from him every week.
luv what just happened
I don't watch WWE anymore, I just come here for the updates
Seems pretty obvious that Vince has soured on Bayley (probably because she isn't hot enough for him to ogle) and has just ordered her to be buried so he can get rid of her. Because what would you fucking expect from Vince.
ArcaneAzmadi or or she sucks his finshing move sucks and looks like she will brake in any moment and he can appeal to older fans like me
Mmmm... no, she's a really good wrestler being booked fucking awfully and you wouldn't know a good wrestler if they gave you a Burning Hammer in a ball pit.
Don't think it has anything to do with Vince. People were tired of the boring story being repeated with her about how much of a geeky fan she is. She needs a reset and hopefully this squash is a way to do it. They pushed her too early and her matches have been pretty average on the main roster.
Alexa Bliss got immediately pushed on both brands and she's a mediocre wrestler. Her only good match was when Bayley carried her at Payback.
This entire feud has been a disaster and it doesn't have anything to do with the competitors. The booking has been really bad. The better way to reset Bayley would've been a Sasha heel turn and feud that's already been proven to produce MOTY contenders.
Plus, come on. Bayley beat Charlotte clean at Mania and ended her PPV streak at Fastlane and she gets squashed? Ridiculous.
I disagree. It's just that her gimmick sucks. It's bad and boring, nothing else
I just saw your promo for WCPW about hate speech and already signed for the petition. I just wanted to say that it was really amazing seeing seeing you defend wrestling and making sure that it never got diverted into "F@ck UA-cam " chants. I hope that they change their policy and that the program can go on as it has for the past twelve months for all the wrestling fans that can't have access to this sort of content in our countries. Best of luck!
AJ was PRAISED for her bendy spine thing. BE FAIR
Al Wilkins He's just concerned because he values them and their talent. I can relate because I felt the same way when I first saw Austin Aries (I'm not that avid of a wrestling fan) and I just hoped that's part of his brilliance and not him being risky or dangerous.
but Sasha is kind of sloppy. I mean she's good but sometimes I'm legit scared for her. remember that suicide dive landing on her face then bending back on her neck? that shit's scary.
At the beginning of the cage match, they specifically said both team members had to be out of the cage on the floor at the same time.
I actually thought the kickoff match was the best :P
I was at the show. It really was a good live show the crowd was super into the whole show. I was really surprised that Alexa Bliss was getting way more cheers than Bayley. Also, it's hard to describe the level of hate the live crowd has for Roman Reigns. I was also genuinely surprised that Samoa Joe won the main event. Top to bottom, a really good and solid PPV from an attendee's perspective.
I am so excited to see my boy Somoa Joe have the dream match against Brock Lesnar
Zyshawn Moore osw?aha
They said multiple times that both members of a team had to be outside at the same time. At least I interpreted it that way. It made sense to me and ended how I expected.
can't wait to see the reactions on indie fans when brock squashes joe
my problem is calling the match an extreme rules match and the only weapons that they used were a chair and steel steps.
Steel Cage match they said both have to be out of the cage at the same time which they weren't since jeff went back in the cage.
I know a lot of people don't like how wwe is treating Face Rollins but I really like it, the triple H feud really helped, and as of last night the crowd is still behind him a lot, got one of the biggest pops of the night. He needs one more face/heel feud with a big star before he chases the title again.
0:18 Who's Samoan Joe?
They actually got very specific about both people needing to be out at the same time
WHAT ABOUT TITUS O NEIL AND APOLLO THO THEY ARE AMAZING #URAHH #TITUSBRAND
Nick Payet so amazing that Titus cost Apollo the match
As much as a lot of people think Roman can't wrestle but seeing him block the kick from Finn early on was great, it isnt a big thing but it was something to see him use his brain in the ring. I am a Roman fan and would love to see him be allowed to extend his repertoire over time.
they need to build up joe
Joe vs Lesnar - "The Destroyer" vs "The Beast"
This has all the potential in the world, and I really hope we get a series out of it
I waited all night for this shit
Dalvin Stewart not you alone that was the worst
Nikkolai Baird the worst? really the worst? out of everything you ever seen in your life, this is the worst? coooool brahhh
Match of the night for me was Neville vs Aries. Loved that match
Thanks for spoiler in the thumbnail
SiLeNcE138 I hate how they always do this,
I love whatculture but I'm thinking unsubscribing just because of spoilers
Ethan Skys easy fix. stay off youtube till you watch it. BAM problem solved.
Ulikecookies or just not spoil in the thumb nail ?
Plumpy, In the match Michael Cole quoted "Both men on one time must be out of the cage *AT THE SAME TIME*"
The rules of the cage match was both members of one team have to be out of the cage, Jeff can get in and out all he wants if he is still in/on the cage when Matt gets out then they haven't won. How do you find that so hard to understand?
Jim Lahey Jesus Mr Lahey even as drunk as you are and you still knew what was happening !!
I am the liquor my boy...
Jim Lahey the liquors gonna let you down Jim !
The liquor will figure it out while the winds of shit bring the shit storm to sunnyvale to rain down shit on all the shit apples.
Jim Lahey mr lahey ?
Let me join the liquor with you and we can wave down a shit tsunami on all the shit hawks trying to climb the shit ropes !!
I'm surprised this video wasn't taken down
DODGY RULES!!! HAHAHA
Does anyone know the song at 14:48?????
I tried Shazam, didn't work for me
Vince is gonna have to get some new dry bedsheets soon, (Great Balls of Fire) (Big Sweaty Men)
I don't know if a lot of people realized the sudden/subtle plug Michael Cole did while the cage was being lowered.. he said "In order to win, BOTH teammates should be out of the ring"
If JOE loses we Riot
Cm Punk Fan No you wont.
Get ready to riot then
why Joe he sucks in the mic and and can't give good promos.
Cm Punk Fan What's wrong with Brock? The title actually seems like it's worth something
OBSOLETE Broadcasts besides the fact that Brock wrestles one live show every 3 months and barely shows up for any of the other ones then I would agree with you
It does make sense cause someone could just leave the cage at the beginning, get back in for the WHOLE match and just try to get their teammate out. They have to be punished for leaving their teammate alone if they go back in.
Both had to be out the cage at the same time
Hey plumpy it's samoa joe not Samoan joe! YOU JUST MADE THE LIST!!!
Great balls of fire? No one is questioning this?
old news
Everyone hates the name but Vincent Kennedy McMahon don't give a fuck
That kick Finn hit Roman with was full on lmao that bad Finn had to check on him to make sure he didn't kick the teeth clean out Roman's mouth XD
Samoa joe just happened !
I liked it. I like that the "extreme rules" didn't feel as gimmicky as like a TLC PPV or having multiple Hell in a Cell matches. My only real issue at the end was how FAST the ref calls for the bell now on sleepers. I don't really need the dramatic "three hand drops" to be a thing, but Finn seemed to pass out SUPER fast. Would have liked a little more struggle in that final spot.
Miz winning made me quit watching
WHY DO YOU HATE THE MIZ? MIZ LOOKS DEAD SEXY IN HIS HOT PANTS HAHAHA
The announcement before the cage match clearly said "both teammates must have both feet touching the ground at the same time." Not a rule that has been implemented or at least emphasized before, but a rule that they made almost too obvious tonight, if you listened.
steel cage matches are just the worst...
The Viper they would be so much better if they didn't have that fucking door!!! It's fucks up everything and it so pointless
Ben Fox the entire cage should be made of doors 😂😂😂😂😂
Go watch Kurt Angle vs Chris Benoit Cage match in 01, thatll change your mind...
Woke up at 6 to see this video, wasn't uploaded until 12
I'm making a UA-cam channel and making my first video tonight.
Thank you for the spoiler at the thumb.
that beat at the end is hard as hell
I didn't watch it live and I was skipping watching all the entrances, and when I tried to skip the entrance for Bliss vs Bayley I just heard JoJo saying "And still your RAW Women's Champion Alexa Bliss" and I thought it was part of the promo package but I'd accidentally skipped the whole match.
WhatCulture, where's the wrestling petition?
You should put that link, in other vids besides the promo one.
Near 47k+ signatures, but you know what's better?
48k+ and so on and so fourth.
After Jeff came back into the cage, Michael Cole mentioned that it reset everything and now they were "back to square one".