Clean EGR Valve Decarbonize Turbo DPF MPG Limp Mode Mr Muscle VW 1.9TDI Sharan Galaxy Alhambra
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- I used Oven Cleaner Foam in My Air Intake With Engine Running, to clean out carbon fuel deposits from EGR Valve, Cooler, Inlet Manifold, Actuator Gate Valve, Catalytic Converter, without taking my VW Sharan 1.9 TDI to bits.
The Product I used is Mr Muscle, which cost £1.89. It consists of Sodium Hydroxide, which is very effective at removing baked on carbon and unburned fuel exhaust deposits that block up the EGR valve and prevent adequate air intake. I was confident to do this when I saw it being used to clean a turbocharger and waste gate valve, so I took it to the next level by spraying it directly into the Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve through the air intake pipe.
Seafoam contains potassium hydroxide and is sprayed directly into a running engine through the air inlet. It reacts with aluminium just like MR Muscle Oven cleaner, which contains sodium hydroxide does.
Our car has an intermittent problem with going into limp mode and although it has improved greatly, it still goes into limp mode and the engine management light comes on.
After this treatment, there has been a huge improvement in performance and economy over 800 miles of motorway driving. We were getting around 32-36 miles per gallon. Now we are getting 44.5 miles per gallon, although significantly less than this around town.
@Andrew K Fletcher I have just done your method and I can confirm NO MORE OVERBOOST LIMP MODE. I tweaked your method slightly. I sprayed into the air intake just after the MAF. Tried both Smart straw up and down - I preferred it down for the spray pattern. I also then had a garden sprayer (same as the Revive Turbo cleaner) which I removed the internal straw and sprayed 750ml of tap water inverted to "rinse" it through. Went for a 20 mile drive and it now feels more eager and boosting correctly throughout the RPM range. Before I did this method I put the car up on the ramps to confirm that infact the boost actuator for the turbo vanes was very stiff. For reference this was on a 2006 Skoda Octavia 140PD BKD engine code with 153k miles. Thank you again.
Say goodbye to your engine
It might feel good right now probably because you are burning a bunch of oven cleaner. But not too far down the line you either just killed your engine or made a mechanic very happy.
1 year later tell us how its going PMSL
What are you doing you header
I am sure you can (no pun ) use the thin tube in the spray top.It is the one which used to come with WD40 and other spray cans.??
I used in several cars Mercedes and Volvo, Liqui Moly 5168 pro line 400 ml, (only for Diesel engines), with very good cleaning results and great performance. It Cleans all the intake system without disassembly Turbo, EGR valve, Flaps, etc. The spray is a mix of cetone and thinner. It is applied just after MAF sensor.
The turbo, EGR and the engine performs much better after Liqui Moly 5168
I messed up.I used WD40 on my oven and it burst into flames!!
Lmao
My oven is also in limp mode now
Awesome.....
@@scottirwin2562 took me 12 hours to get the turkey home for xmas.
Got a laugh out of me bro. Haha.
I have a 2008 seat altea xl & have changed the brake master cylinder. While doing that, I thought I'd clean the egr & asv while I'm about it as they had to come off to gain access to the brake master cylinder. I cleaned them with brake cleaner & a small brass brush & a toothbrush. Everything went back on with no problems until after about 15 miles when the emission service center warning flashed up. Plugged in my scan tool, & sure enough the P0401 egr flow insufficient code reared its ugly head. Off with the asv, & egr again & re installed using hi temp gasket sealant & back out. Same thing.I did a fault code reset both times. I reckon I must have dislodged some shite that ended up down the intake manifold when I took it apart the first time. I used your method but only as far as step one. Mine is a 1.9 tdi, so no need to go behind the maf sensor as the hose to the asv/egr /intake is on the left hand side. I used the smart straw with some pfte tape wound around so I could slide 800 mm of 3mm inside diameter clear pipe over the top. I marked on the hose with permanent marker where the far corner of the intake was, & fed the pipe in. Good shake of the can, slide the straw into the tube, proceed to foam the intake, slowly withdrawing the tube as I sprayed, as to completely get all 4 ports. Once the tube was pulled all the way out past the anti shudder valve, you could see the filth in the foam right away. I left it to work its magic for 1hour & 45 minutes, then I wiped the inlet stubb of the asv and replaced the duct. I have the clips on mine that you just pull out a small amount with a screwdriver or pliers. Put the bonnet down, said a little prayer as I have read the negative comments as well as the positives, then turned the key, and...........
Away she went! Just be ready to feed in a few revs as soon as it fires up & hold it at a steady 2000rpm for at least 20 seconds or so to make sure you don't stall the engine. You want to make sure you burn up all that liquified sheiser in the combustion chambers. I let it idle for a few minutes and then took it out for a 20 mile run on the dual carriageway. This will help to poop out any unwanted shit in the egr system. Got home and no more fault codes. This method DOES WORK! I saw no need to use water, as a good run will burn & blow all the crud anyway. I see no evidence of aluminum being eaten or seals or anything like that. You would need to soak it in a vat of the stuff for a year to do any lasting damage. As for seals? Your rubber gloves would melt would they not? Just use some common sense & save yourself some money. If you are worried about your aluminum being eaten in front of your very eyes, then you can neutralize the sodium hydroxide with vinegar. Just spray a fine mist down to intake as you would with the water technique. I saw no reason to do this myself, as I used 1/4 of a can ,if that. The foam is flammable anyway,& is just going to be burned up by the engine itself. My car is a work hack with 163000 miles on it ,so I thought I'd roll the dice, having never tried this technique before. I tweaked the method to suit my application & it worked very well. If my turbo gives me any aggravation , then it will get the same treatment as the egr system now I am confident that it works. Most of the negative comments are coming from people who have never tried this technique, as well as thinking that sodium hydroxide is an acid. It is alkaline in fact, so do a bit of research before slagging off someone for trying to help out others.
If you also did a bit of research, you would know that sodium hydroxide (caustic soda) is an alkali and a strong base and the amphoteric properties of aluminium means it dissolves in both acids and bases. Moreover, the reaction with aluminium and caustic soda produces hydrogen gas, which is somewhat explosive.
@@Weejie2011 don't make the assumption that I've not looked into this matter. Yes it will dissolve tin foil, but not an inlet manifold in an hour. I also wouldn't perform this task in my living room. Fact is I've done it, & it works. You go waste your money at the garage if you want, makes no difference to me.
@@bullenharben9905 No, it won't dissolve an inlet manifold in an hour, but it certainly can do an awful lot of alteration to the surface finish. I have used caustic soda to remove the anodised finish on bicycle parts when renovating scratched surfaces. The items can be polished and anodised again. If you have seen how rapidly the chemical works on a handlebar stem, you'll understand my point. I don't waste my money at garages. I have removed manifolds and cleaned things properly. Time consuming, but less risky. I think you are making the assumption that people are not savvy enough to be able to do the job the way it is supposed to be done.
@@Weejie2011 its a 2008 car that cost me £1500. Get off your high horse mate. Access is nigh on impossible to remove the manifold on my car, which is why I resorted to this method. Plus I didn't want to run the risk of snapping any studs where I can't even see them. I'm just saying that it works. No one is forcing you to use oven cleaner are they?
@@bullenharben9905 Can't say I've ever snapped a stud on an inlet manifold. They don't get seized up like exhaust manifold studs. The first car I had that needed cleaning out cost me £150. 2005 Astra, 3 years ago, so much the same age as yours is now. The seller had tried changing the sensor etc to try and get life back into the car but gave up and sold it cheap. All the more reason to spend time on it. Right enough, nobody is forcing me to use oven cleaner, but you should perhaps wear a pinny while you use it. It works better with one. Marigold gloves, too.
Mr muscle also cleans wheels with the worst brake dust staining you can imagine! Spray on and leave for 15 mins, then get a scotch brite pad and it will lift off with some gentle rubbing and rinsing. Without mr muscle I would have scrubbed for 3 hrs to get it done.
Personally I wouldn’t advise this method but if you don’t have the mechanical knowledge or time to strip and rebuild or can’t afford garage costs then why not.
As the caustic solution causes oxidation more violently given temperature you will get a tad more than is here evident. But here aluminium oxide is a protective barrier from further oxidation. That said it is highly abrasive hence it’s use in sanding papers. . But then given that vapours will quickly recoat surfaces it’s not so much an issue.
What I would advise is that 10mm of vinegar per 250 ml is added to the flushing water. This will help neutralise the sodium hydroxide which might pose a risk to seals and pipe work. Diesel engines naturally produce acids. All in any potential harm is minimal apart from safety issues the presenter points out- to oneself. In fact water has been used in the combustion chambers of high performance track cars in the past to boost compression. But also a engine consumes water vapour daily.
I recommend that if you can’t afford or don’t have the technical knowledge then by all means try it. It won’t do much in the way of harm whatsoever.
Edit. I wouldn’t recommend injecting just after the MAF but if you do then I advise this is only done prior to an oil and filter change. In fact I would recommend that an oil and filter change is done regardless assuming it works. Even then the effectiveness will be reduced.
Now if this is done in conjunction with an egr delete all the better. Often the cause is not simply the egr valve itself but a build up crud in the manifold, turbo, wastegate and ancillaries.
Ex Shell engineer
I took the manifold egr valve apart and cleaned them in my parts cleaner couldn't take the chance on my Audi a6 it has 250.000 on it still going strong all about the services and good oil cheap shite doesn't win the race
Jim Goose Cheap shite isn’t worth a toss. Go premium mate🤠✌🏻
hey i got an audi a6 2002 3.0 non turbo with 170,000 miles on it, my egr codes came on and im convinced it's the egr. the shop wants 150 to clean it out but they seem like they don't want to do the job. is there a way i can clean it without removing it besides the way in this video?
@@Westcoastmickey not properly
If this was used to clean the EXHAUST side of the turbo, I would probably say "yeah, okay maybe", but since you are putting it in the egr, thus in the inlet... "Yeah, no".
EXACTLY what I was thinking.thank you very much
@Mr Donkey basically, the engine is sucking in mr proper into the combustion chamber.
EGR EXHAUST GAS RECIRCULATION valve, he is treating the intake manifold not the turbo side of the exhaust that feeds EXHAUST fumes into the maifold.
Yea, but thats were the problem lies, The intake manifold crusts up with carbon and because this manifold is conected to the head of the engine, the piston rings tend to wear from all the gunk up there. This causes the engine to run very non-economically due to the fact that it cant get the correct ratio of air and fuel. And when that happens, the engine management system gets the signal to pump in more diesel to keep the engine cool, thus causing more fumes which are then run through (unburned properly) the egr. .. So its a vicious cycle until the engine wears out and causes C.E.F. (catastrophic engine failure)
Rather than go to all this bother just disable the bloody EGR valve by pulling off the vacuum hose on the top of the EGR unit and plug the said hose with a bolt - Hey presto your car no longer sniffs its own farts which cause the carbon deposits in the first place.
I think oven cleaner may destroy gaskets, o-rings & seals, I could be wrong but please definitely wear long rubber gloves & eye protection.
Always best to put a couple of brillo pads in as well. Just to polish the pistons a bit. Bloody hell.
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FFS dont do this, sodium hydroxide is a strong basic. It will eat rubber and seals amongst other parts. Makes plastics brittle and deteriorate quicker. Also reacts with the injector tips and chromium on the piston rings. Chromium comes off the rings , the bores start scuffing over time and injector nozzle holes corrode giving a poor spray pattern. This in turn will soot the intake up more.
Mr muscle oven spray is only used to clean the TURBINE side of the turbo if the VNT vanes are sticky. Dont use it on the intake side. Carbon clumps can bend rods
nice way to bend valves ;)
valves bend when timing is out they hit the pistons.
I have never seen such a misinformed, ridiculous action before. I would certainly never do this to an engine.
Ok whatever talk rubbish. He knows what hes doing!
Gay!
and thats why your not a mechanic. this is old school nothing new.. shame you dont understand this and save yourself a fortune
He didnt do anything to the engine
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After a week he buys a motor.
I've got a ford focus with the egr valve attached to the cooler. Can I remove one of the cooler hoses to spray Mr muscle into the cooler to clean egr valve?
wait. water in the engine?
Love how all the mechanics are having a meltdown because they cant charge £200 now for an easy fix......rofl
Wow you couldn't have said it any better
It's not that it's that Mr muscel is an acid it will ruin rubber seals and cause corsion and if he wasn't care full you could easily hydro lock it and bend a rod
I Carn’t see any mechanic having a meltdown over this there all rubbing there hands together with all the extra money there’ll be making replacing all the things that have been screwed up by an ill informed cheep skate .
I have never paid a mechanic in my life, entirely diy and been doing my own and a couple of freinds cars for years, you risk serious damage , no profit motive here, just dont like poor / risky advice.Far better if you are carboned up to strip off the manifolds and egr and manually clean them,(even use mr muscle and water on the deposits once they are off if you like), if you dont want to spend cash on a garage service.Will still cost a gasket but wont wreck anything.
You total correct go try it
So you then suck all the crap actually through the engine and into the cat and dpf. Now not forgetting even a teaspoon of liquid within a engine can and has caused damage to the engine.
I found SEAFOAM brand injector cleaner also works Extremely well too. Thanks for the great tip! Seafoam also works in the fuel system to clean injectors, as well as engine flush to clean out old deposits from the oil.
Please never do this to your car. Oven cleaner is incredibly caustic and will harm the aluminum internals. You're also introducing this into your turbo, exhaust and DPF. This is not meant to go into your car...ever.
So apparently it will dissolve an engine but stomach is going to be fine after oven has been treated with this stuff..
@@franceuxleseuf5928 why when you soray your oven with that foam you start cooking and eating the rest of the foam?
Not all oven cleaner has lye which is bad for aluminium. There is aluminium safe oven cleaner but there are also other good carbon cleaners
As a mechanic of over 20 years I can confirm this is brilliant way to fuck up your engine
As an hobbyist mechanic I couldn't agree more. There was a full enterprise of Picard face-palm watching this.
But it works
Fellas I’m glad I see your comments u just saved my van lol 😂
@@jakecrawley1742 I used this, but there's a miss fire, but on the lucky side there's a lovely loaf on my driveway every morning.
@@MyJam1981. Putting CAUSTIC chemicals through your Engine is a BAD idea . It will absolutely eat all the Rubber Hoses etc . And quite likely damage the Anodised / Surface Treated Metal Parts too .
EGR systems are badly engineered . Built to fail basically .
Best way,take off that part and clean manual.
Try clilt bang! BANG and your engine is gone!
Mr muscles bursting into the VW diesel emissions scandal
thats engine wasnt AT athats emissions scandale
Brilliant! We have been doing this to our tractors on our farm for 25 years!
Oven cleaner of most types does degrade the carbon composites, grabs and binds to it, and the first few minutes of the engine running blows out the exhaust.
The only problem is it burns like fuck when it hits skin. But as we have expendable farm workers, and can replace them (or hide there bodies as we often do) whenever the next moron shows his face at our door!
Our local diesel fitter says it has absolutely no effect or damage to the engine.
Done it on my transit van when it started losing power.
Now its up to full power and happily cutting up innocent motorists on the M40!
Yeehaaa, you middle lane mother fucking road hogs!!!
diagoros melos haha a man after my own heart, I say to my labourers if they hurt themselves I will kick them to the kerb for someone else to sort out.
You got land to bury them in, We have to find a job that needs lots of concrete 🤣
diagoros melos I think you will have to look a little closer to home to find a dolt , we only like farmland for one thing & one thing only , O'Donnell Abu
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I’ve just done this with my beetle 1.9
I didn’t bother with the water though. I just sprayed most of the can in so it went right into the inlet manifold too.
I left it for an hour then reconnected the hose and took the car for a spin.
I kid you not I’ve left black marks down my road where all the sh1te has come out 😂
FUCKING BRILLIANT!
Sod the specialised cleaners for the tdi turbos!
I had 2 options scrap the car or do this ...
I empty whole can in to the turbo!
Waited 20 minutes...
Then start the car running ...
Then I emptied another can of Mr muscle Owen cleaner ....
After that I have sprayed 400ml water in to the engine ...
Engine was on 2000rpm mostly .
On short time I have increased the rpm to 3000 ....
It Fuckin done the job .
Splendid!!!!!
U r a STAR man ...
U have saved my car and 1000s ££££
I can hear the whistle on my turbo ...
No juggers on engine too...I taught my gearbox was bad ...
Nothing to do with the gearbox!
Reference Mercedes c220 cdi w203
My engine light come on the dashboard while I was doing this ....
I disconnected the battery waited 10 minutes then re connect it ...
And the light didn’t come back on😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love u 😍 !!!!!!!!!!
Still going?
His wife is thinking, it'll work better on the oven darling!!🙄
Hmmm, it sounds enticing... Nah, there's this little voice (of reason) whispering in my ear, warning me that the extreme potential for a multi thousand dollar engine replacement nightmare far exceeds the (perceived value of) convenience in following the method shown here. Call me crazy, but I'm strongly inclined to believe that it's probably best to play it safe and invest whatever time is necessary to follow the accepted,safe and proven industry standard procedure for eliminating the internal buildup, by removing the intake manifold and egr valve so as to facilitate the thorough removal of any existing carbon and oil residue... Besides, following the accepted procedure will cost you nothing more than some time and a nominal amount of $ for Materials VS destroying a perfectly good diesel engine.
Said Eugene from The Walking Dead.
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Mr Muscle oven cleaner is very good for cleaning the EGR valve but only off the vehicle!!
for some reason my exhaust now smells like I'm baking lasagne :)
No…. Take it off and remove carbon the old fashion way
The reason you DO NOT do this as when the carbon deposits release themselves, they'll get chucked around the gubbins and could potentially cause more problems. The best way to do this is to take the EGR off and do it there. Whilst you're at it, might as well take the turbo off and clean all the carbon deposits off there too. Sure its not as quick, but its doing the job right. Treat these engines well and they'll do 500,000 miles without a problem.
In addition, as others have said, oven cleaner will have adverse affects on the aluminium parts of the engine. Chucking oven cleaner into the inlet just isn't a very good idea. Sure its a quick fix, but you're reducing the life of the engine just to save two hours work on a weekend.
Good God. Just a suggestion. REMOVE THE EGR valve and clean it off the car. How can this be good for your engine? ONE CAREFUL OWNER
He's going to show us, how to run Electric cars with Elastic bands soon....
Can you show your registration plate , so I know not to buy that motor 😁
what do you think they do at main dealerships then when cleaning the egr ? do you seriously think they take it off and soak it ha aha ah
@@philldownes8685 I can safely say that they dont put Mr.Muscle oven cleaner into it...
@@philldownes8685 they dont even waste time cleaning it.
They replace it and charge it on the bill...you think dealers have time for this lmao!they dont rebuild engines and transmissions either!this is why techs at dealers know mostly how to bolt new parts in...but know nothing about overhauling.
In this time you will easily remove egr and do it properly...
All the dirt will go into the engine and from there into the oxygen sensors, the catalytic converter.....not a good idea .
How will it go into the engine..?
@@Blue-Lady seriously?
you have no idea what your talking about.
All the gunk is still in there. Don't think this good....then a second treatment. I wonder if this vehicle is alive still??
o2 sensors and catalytic on a diesel? ROFL, you really have no idea what you are talking about
Only 1 way to properly clean EGR valve......take off from vehicle, it is not so difficult !
..this is madness
Don't do that at home hahahaha! Disassemble EGR, intake manifold and turbo in workshop and clean by ultrasound
All the people in the comments section saying this is a bad idea are ALL mechanics who want to charge £200
What The F**k. too clean any egr, you remove it, not spray oven cleaner and water down the inlet. i cant think of any reason you would do that..
Was waiting for a loud BANG ; )
very surprised there wasn't, spraying any liquid especially water into an engine, particularly a diesel engine is going to cause hydrolocking & has potential to cause serious internal damage
To clean your engine real good, you must insert some Scotch-Brite(tm) sponges into that hole and make sure to push it down with a stick. At least 5 sponges needed to clean thoroughly .
Don’t be silly ! It’s a 4 cylinder so you only need 4 scotch brite sponges 😂😂
@@ckjlgp Good math , keep up the good work 😂
Ondan sonra engine runs like düldül
Did this on both of my vw diesels each over 150k on the clock. Really shifted the muck off the egr and intake. REALLY DO WEAR GLOVES -I HAD CHEMICAL BURNS FROM THE MR MUSCLE (I should have known better.) the water spray really shifted soot. Big pile so don’t do it on a nice driveway!
I used the water method in an old 1.9tdi Passat AFN. Cured limp and went on to cover 287,000 miles over the years before I sold it. I removed the egr also and cleaned it with Mr muscle. Decarb with water has been carried out successfully for a long time.
Was this a how not to tutorial?
There is a product from Liqui Moly especially for that purpose! I used it 2times, on a 2.0TFSI 200hp and on a 2.0TDi 140Hp with success.
Where did you spray that in?
Before the turbo or the intake manifold?
I have the Liqui Moly as well as a 140HP 2.0TDI and I am a little scared to use the cleaner.
this is bad never use mr muscle on aluminuim , remove anything intake wise and clean as all that shit goes into engine and though exhaust , .. he is miss informed
Dont know what kind of Mr muscle you Guys use. But unless you let it soak in it for a year, I dont think anything will happen
Fml let’s all advocate filling your cylinders up with chemicals and water...... bloody lucky you didn’t hydraulic the engine. Housing water through your engine without knowing what your doing is no different to driving through a deep flood 🤦🏻♂️
He's going to show us, how to run Electric cars with Elastic bands soon....
did mine at the turbo out end. sprayed in and let it sit for 2 hours whilst freeing up actuator. this was a year ago now. hardly any smoke now and car pulls better at mid range. What was your long term results as good to know and give confidence to others - VW Bora 220000 miles
Can those strong solvents affect the oil's ability to lubricate the cylinder walls while doing this decarbonizing? Is there a change in oil color after doing this? Do any of these chemicals hurt the sensors? Is the catalytic converter affected by any of the harsh solvents present in the cleaner?
If your going to clean your EGR valve, why not use EGR cleaning spray which costs about the same as the Mr Muscle foam ? Holts EGR cleaner 500ml is about £3.00 and the Mr Muscle foam stuff for 300ml is £3.50 approx. Better to take the EGR valve off the vehicle if you can, and clean it properly, use a spray and a toothbrush or bottle brush.
What this guy is doing looks and sounds like a recipe for disaster, not everything you see online works, this could end very badly.
So true.
But your way is to easy & he got time & money to burn...
I wonder what his local garage thinks off him.
I personally tried Holts EGR cleaner on many parts in the egr and intake manifold. Is comes just a yellow thing and will not remove anything. If you put oven cleaner you can see the effect. After 10 flushes with Mr Muscle still was black like the oil. Any will be left in the engine will be diluted by the water enough to not corrode anything. The engine vapours will be as well cleaning the remain in fe miles. Oil might be the issue. It will disintegrate and might be the issue with the lubrication in the cylinder when is inside. I think this is the issue what people had using the method or they just saying because it doesn't make sense for them.
Oven cleaner actually cleared my dpf on a 2008 VW PASSAT.
You might as well put paracetamol& ibuprofen down there then add water then on uk models 1 tea bag 2 & sugars, water then add milk after.its not ok would u buy a car from someone if u new thay were putting kitchen cleener through the inlet Manifold. ♥
LMAO 😂😅 you forgot the cream scone on the UK model....tea with a scone! By Jove, that's just not cricket old boy!
A packet of custard creams😛
Haha marvellous 😂👍🏻
Make sure only 2 of each every 4 hours and no more than 8 in a 24 hour period or you risk major engine damage
Im British and I don't drink tea! I see the picture though
I did it on a citroen C5 2.0 hdi. 362,000 km. the car is younger and very cheerful. thank.
What about people that have a MAP sensor in the manifold. I bet it would cause problems with it.
@k halliday hope this is a joke!
@@upnorthviking823 won't surprise me if he wasn't
You know that you can buy good carbon removing stuff that is designed for engines...I use a good dpf cleaner regularly and some injector cleaner...only a few quid.
Is this being sprayed into the regular air intake pipe right off the air filter box? Just to clarify because in the video it was being referred to as the EGR intake. I have a 2013 VW JSW TDI 2.0 L so it looks a little different than the engine configuration in this video. I used one can of Liqui-Moly Diesel Intake System Cleaner part # 20208 but with very minimal change in EGR performance. Code changed from insufficiient flow to valve slow to respond and then back to insufficient flow again
the very reason ovens dont ever go into limp mode.
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Mr muscle reacts badly with alloy!
Yes, with time it will corred any aluminium if it is let at open air, just dont forget that corrosion will never happen as when engine is working oil vapour is constantly beeing forced into the manifold
it never had time to react
This was 4 years ago...
Do you still have the car,,??
Seen this done a few times,,,
Never a 2nd follow up video...!!
I used crushed cornflakes and ketchup instead of mr muscle. It didnt work.
Expanding foam mixed with tile adhesives good too
rice crispies would really make it pop.
@@greezer9716 I think that would crackle the cylinder head
@@icarr121277 might 'snap' the cam belt .
Hi...I'm Barry Scott and this is utter bullshit. Everyone knows you can't clean an EGR valve with Mr Muscle....you need to use Cillit BANG!
BANG! And your engine's gone.
FFS. THAT SHOULD ONLY EVER BE USED ON THE EXHAUST MANIFOLD
there is proper cleaner you can get and this IS the correct way to do it. but oven cleaner will work perfectly as it will attack the carbon. the real stuff you buy is the same thing just a much weaker sollution.. i would use the oven cleaner over the stuff from the motor shops every day of the week... just keep it off your skin. the rinse should be a much finer spray and less of it.
Watched the full video and thought fantastic I'll go and do that now 👌... luckily I read comments ...don't think I'll bother now 😭
clever lad. just as fortunate that you've read the comments. if you knew how an engine actually works from the inner side of the block you wouldn't put anything like that nowhere near your engine.....use it on components taken off the car prior to treating them - yes, but spraying it inside the engine ...mhm, I do hope you know a good mechanic or at least have a few phone numbers of salvage yards at hand :)
And the legend says the car got so addicted to mr muscle the man had to do this everyday ...
Lol
DO NOT DO THIS!
To learn why not to do this, Take a glass and a piece of aluminium kitchen foil. Put the foil into the glass and spray it with Mr Muscle. Wait. The mess caused is what you have just put into your exhaust system. Congrats for totally fucking up your engine instead of using basic tools to unbolt the EGR and cleani it for five minutes, a job that would take less than an hour in total and which won’t screw up everything made of aluminium in your engine. This is the sort of back street cowboy nonsense that causes people to have to pay main dealers to sort out.
Oven cleaner and hair spray are part of my tool kit for more than 20 years. :-)
For the EGR/ manifold and the such whenever possible I prefer to remove and clean on the side. But definitely oven cleaner is the major player.
BTW in case anyone wondering, the hair spray is to assemble tires. Perfect rim sealer and when fresh/wet serves as lubrication. :-)
So you been paying more since 20years when you could of used soapy water to install tires lmao!!
Caustic is used to extract aluminium from the ore , how to destroy an aluminium engine
I will not be putting oven cleaner in a aluminum block OR head anytime soon.
Mark Weaver Why not ? All the mechanics recommended you do a mr muscle treatment every three months 🙊😂
Where did the carbon and the rest of acid/basic foam and water finished after solved from the manifold??? Yep directly in the valve seat ad combustion chamber. I can confirm that this engine is already dead now. Don't do this stupidity without removing the intake mainifold otheryise you gonna destroy definitly the engine.
I normally put lemon and lime juice down my intake not mr muscle
Omg this is a quick fix for about a month it will sound ok,but the damage this will do to the engine will be unreversable, whoever told you to do this was taking the piss ,..please don’t anyone do this. This needs deleting before you damaged someone s car. Maybe you will be sued. Foolish
I think most people are missing the point. The cars only worth a few hundred quid . And to remove the carbon build up by removing all the components and cleaning and installing with new gaskets not forgetting the labour costs. Would render the car worthless. As it probably only has a year or so left in it. It’s probably a cost effective way of fixing his problem. The older diesel motor is well capable of running a little MR Muscle through it without any ill effect whatsoever
But why the cold side? Shouldn't he be using the stuff on the hot side only? There shouldn't even be any carbon on the cold side. It'd all start from the pistons only, then out to the exhaust, right?
@@Blue-Lady if you splay an oven cleaner on hot metal and inhale enough off the toxic fumes it can literally kill you on the spot! think!
@@IPDeliev Don't be silly. ;
@@Blue-Lady All engines from at least early 90's usually have some kind of EGR valve. The blowby from the crankcase doesn't go straight out in the air like a tractor for example. That means you get air and also a bit oil from the blowby to come back in to the engine. You'd be surprised if you open up a intake manifold on a diesel car whit lot of miles on it. The intake look terrible whit a thick layer of burnt oil almost like a mass of rubber and that's what messes the egr-valve up. If the blowby was alowed to got straight out the engine would breathe only fresh air and this kind of problems would never occur but this is all environment associated.
@@MrJokkoma Hey Mr Jokkoma, that's interesting info, I thought EGR valves were more modern. I'll have a look-see at what I can find. I'm riding a Triton from 1995 just FYI, an MJ Dualcab Diesel.
My Polo 1.9TDI is loosing power on steep hills going to limp mode... What could be the issue?
Mr Muscle LOVES aluminium yum yum yum
Two.. Three hours does nothing bad.
Sorry Andrew . VERY BAD IDEA . How did all the Rubber Hoses go , after that ?
PLEASE! Step away from the car and go and clean your oven.
shame you dont understand the oven cleaner does work and just using that instead of egr cleaner.. egr cleaner cleans away burnt on carbon and soot. now guess what oven cleaner is realy good at ? yep same thing . and the oven cleaner is even less corrosive because you have it in your oven....
Jesus. Do not do this to your car people. Spraying corrosive oven cleaner into alloy parts to be then sucked into the engine, followed by water lol. Actually unbelieavably stupid.
Will this clear my blocked dpf?
There is an easier way AND Safer Wynn’s EGR Valve cleaner do what it says on can
Took me 30 minutes 1.6 Citroen C3 1.6 EHDi no mess Sorry Derek I Think this is Dangerous
DO NOT SPRAY TOO MUCH or you’ll get engine knock ..only spray a quick small squirt
Steve
Please no-one do this to your car: Mr Muscle is a highly corrosive oven cleaner, and he is spraying into the air intake after his problem parts anyway: what a timewaste and carkilling video.
Now explain why it would be doing any harm ? we are talking the intake that then goes into combustion chamber where explosions take place then down and out the exhaust where all the mucky crap goes.. now when its in the combustion chamber what do you think its doing exactly ?.... well what it does is cause a higher temp burn that cleans off carbon then evaporates and goes out the exhaust.. why do you think you can buy the same stuff just given the name of egr cleaner ? then can buy distilled water to spray down the intake ha aha it gets distilled when its in the combustion chamber... do your research and go check in the motor shops. youl see around 10 different brands of this in any one motor shop... or buy it direct from vw audi or mercedes benze or chevrolet or ford or chrysler etc
Good video hope it helps me husband as he is getting a vw golf tdi 07 1.9 the turbo is a bit slow uk here
I did it last summer, twice. My engine works fine, 20000 miles since then, do it carefully, it will work. Do it before oil changing. VW 2006 1.9TDi BXE. Not too much water at once - remember the water lock.
With a BXE engine I'd be more concerned with a conrod peaking through your block than carbon build up
@@tiberiusclaudiusnerogermanicis excatly. Worst of the PD engine models
This is not only highly stupid you risk hydro locking your engine your also using a very harsh chemical which risks causing damage to seals and you can hear the knocking of the engine .
he did use a slight too much water, but no the corrosive bit is not going to happen, its all gone and lubricated well before it could ever do any damage.... put a piece of alloy in oven cleaner and just see how long it takes to corrode it, we are talking weeks before anything happens...... have you ever thought about the corrive stuff in anti freeze ?
Listen to that engine rattle when the water is sprayed in it lovely video on how to knacker an engine because your to cheep to do the job properly anyone doing this be warned this is very bad practice and will result in more damage down the line
dont knock water injection till you know more about it ,,, granted this isnt the most accurate version , but go read , you will be amazed.
@@tomthompson7400 yep, water injection is a new idea, people been doing it since around 1910 yes over 100 yearsand works very good.
@@tomthompson7400 would you say this is safe to do on a Kia Sorento 2.5 crdi engine? I'd be pretty much worried about gaskets
@@icarr121277 I wouldn't be trying it unless I had to ,.. if it goes wrong it will go very wrong ...
@@tomthompson7400 yes that's what I thought, I wasn't keen on pumping water into the engine, it's just there's a lot of positive comments about it too. Thanks for the reply
tis is what happens when you retire and are so fucking bored with life ! Go walk the dog ffs..!
Oh dear ! playing Russian roulette seamed a bit sketchy but this takes it to a new level .
listen Guys their are lots of well tested and developed products that work great out there for about a tenner surely your not that skint that you have to resort to oven cleaner i know it cleans great but i hope its caustic quality's only erodes the carbon build up on the egr valve , as for spraying water in a high compression engine like a diesel ! be sure you don't squirt too much because if it hydraulics on you your car could be scrap instantly .
Not great advise i would leave it to a trained professional even approved egr cleaners can create havoc if you don't know what your doing or understand what is going on when things start going wrong.
Sorry Andrew but you have to take responsibility if a "have a go guy" destroys the family car through lack of knowledge and experience all to save a tenner on a "quick fix on the cheap "or "it worked for me "attitude
Re sodium hydroxide: if it's very concentrated you can see bubbles coming off aluminium, but its not strong enough in Mr Muscle to damage engine aluminium components after a couple of hours.
After cleaning my EGR Valve and intake manifold with oven cleaner it did leave white spots but got them out with a good polish.
Or just buy actual intake decarbon stuff from an auto shop
its the same stuff just a lot weaker from the shop...... and more expensive..
Makes me laugh that people think a product that a domestic product bought at a supermarket is going to be so strong that it'll rot the engine ! Its pretty ineffective on an oven so whilst I can see it having a mild cleaning effect its not going to dissolve your manifold !
Ovens tend not to be made from aluminium.
To me this sounds like a heavy rodknock...
Ya sounds rough, upper engine tho I reckon
А он знает что все это говнище летит во впускной?))))хотя им пох,потом же этого шарика купит беларус и припрет на болты в РБ с "идеальным" двигателем))))
In my experience, this is a waste of time. If your turbo is carboned up, the only way to clean it is to take it off, open it up, and clean it properly. Also, Mr Muscle and a few minutes revving your car will do nothing to clean your DPF or Cat.
If you have limp issues and you think its turbo related (it could also be fuel delivery, airflow, or sensor issues) you need to do 4 things.
1. Get your car scanned for codes to confirm the nature of your issue.
2. Take the turbo off and get it flow tested.
3. Buy a vacuum gauge and test your vac lines.
4. And look for any obvious boost leaks in your charge pipes.
Raymond Wilson
Yes. This is typical of YT armchair mechanics putting theory into practice. Potentially creating more serious problems than it solves.
I have cleaned my turbo vanes whit Mr mucle now over 5y. and everytime it removes my overboost problems. its works nicely
Hmm, I beg to differ. I opened 3 bolts on my vw mk 4 exhaust from turbo, stuffed in Mr Muscles for 2 hours into turbo, freed my actuator and runs like new. 220000miles
I not sure about this,40 years as a mechanic and i think there are less harmful (causic) products out there on the market. cant recommend this.
Take off the egr and do it properly. Or dont do it at all
Any recommendations on Toyota Yaris petrol please shall I take out the oxygen sensor and spray directly on catalytic converter
“Don’t get any water in the intake....” literally 3 seconds prior he sprays water into the intake. Basically if you drive a bag of nails car like that pikey sharan, crack on. Anything you want to keep don’t do it.
The water vaporizers as it hits the combustion chamber so should not do any damage apart from clean a little bit like a damaged head gasket when it let's water into the combustion chamber it steamcleans
I do it to my V8 Aston Martin all the time keeps engine clean
James did you know that v8 cylinder heads make really cool wine bottle holders you can use in your kitchen to be creative........worth baring in mind when mr muscle finally fist fucks your engine up the arse at 80 mph
EVIL dead lol joker
@@evildead1949 cylinder blocks not heads