Student Presses Dinesh D'Souza On LGBTQ Rights At Dartmouth Debate
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- Опубліковано 30 січ 2014
- During a Jan. 30th debate, a Dartmouth student pressed conservative author and commentator Dinesh D'Souza '83 over his stance on LGBTQ rights.
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I like how Ben Carson once put it: "I believe in equal rights, not special rights."
Straight people had the special right to get married to the person they loved, cis people had the special right to live as the gender they were. These rights being extended to non-straight and non-cis people doesn't make them new, or indeed special to them.
Equal isn’t special, ass
@@thezpn Non-straight could always get married, even though they didn't usually want to. A marriage is a union with a person of the opposite gender, for life. Two men or two women do not make a marriage, regardless of man's law.
@@annep.1905 No. Historically, marriage was a transaction, usually of the bride in exchange for money, land, titles. That's where it comes from. It's changed over time, culturally. Now it's changed culturally and lawfully to allow same sex couples.
If you don't like it, you should get the fuck outta my country.
No special rights and no special rules. Consistency is key
Perfect: Rights for each as an individual. Not special rights and treatment because of your gender, ethnicity or lifestyle.
And yet when this statement was made, there were laws banning gay marriage in many states. How is that equal, when one group makes laws taking rights away from another? The reason we need laws that do not allow discrimination based on things like race, gender, orientation, religion, etc, is not to give special rights to certain groups, but keeping other groups from taking their rights away.
@John Gesselberty what special rights do they have
@Team Tundra 2 a man is not allowed in women's bathrooms, locker rooms, or sports until they identify as women.
Equal isn’t special. Ignorant much?
@@keck321 Two men do not make a marriage, neither do two women, regardless of man's law.
What are GAY rights? Are you supposed to have different or additional rights because of who you have sex with?
There are literally still laws in the books prohibiting sodomy and homosexual intercourse. That is in direct conflict with gay rights, hence why people are fighting for it.
Now please tell me why you think those laws are justified
@@Charles-pf7zy Those laws have already been nullified, on the books or not.
2003 Lawrence v. Texas
The Supreme Court ruled sodomy can not be a crime, nullifying any state law to the contrary.
Claims that gays are not a problem in America, turns around and writes a book claiming they started 9/11 and were also not target by nazis…. Way to show off your iq there Buddy.
Yes, I like to put my dick in a certain place which demands special recognition AND yes, special rights. Makes sense.
@@Charles-pf7zy Firstly, they’ve already been nullified.
Second, gay rights pose no benefit to civilization, so why should they exist? Because of peoples feelings? Those are inconsequential.
Amen, Dinesh. You ROCK.
Rights based not on humanity but on group identities will eventually tear humanity apart.
D'Souza"s right. Right only exist for the American individual NOT for a specific minority or group!
Well let's apply that view to real issues then: The right for gay people to marry the person they love, the right of transsexuals to use the bathroom of their choice, the right to marry interracially and so on. It seems that D'Souza was a *progressive* after all because it is the *individual* that counts. In other word, when it comes to marriage: It is an individual right and independent of race or sex of the spouses. D'Souza is for gay marriage?
@@feat.cicero4638
Perversion is against the laws of nature and, so, should be against the laws of the land.
@@tonyhemingway7980 Name me five "laws" of nature.
Why should natural laws be also civic laws ("laws of the land")? Should the government enforce social darwinism because of evolution?
@@tonyhemingway7980 But Dinesh D'Souza supports individual rights lmao so why would you be against individuals doing as they please?
@@feat.cicero4638
But society should be made aware of harmful lifestyles. Not all practice and cultures are equal. Some are more destructive than others and should be treated as such...
I agree. No one has special rights based on whatever they're choosing to do in the privacy of their own bedroom. That's best kept to yourself, thank you.
Equal rights to marry who you love.
@@biruss I am a 63 year old lesbian. I remember when it was called an alternative lifestyle because it is the alternative to the natural. No one forces people into romantic relationships but when people choose it is only natural between a man and woman for obvious reasons. I admit I do unnatural things all the time but if something is not natural then it can't be a natural right. Homosexuality and heterosexuality are two completely different and separate things and cannot possibly be equal. After all, men have natural rights women don't and vice versa. Rights are given us by our creator at conception, not by governments.
@@denacampbell6228 - How do you know there is a "Creator?"
@@denacampbell6228 Do you realize what you just said? You went completely against what homosexuals confess to be the reason they are whom they are. Because it feels natural for them. That is why they want union between same aex legalized. However!? If you think about it. It only allows certain benefits such as health insurance and very few others. Married couples are taxed higher. Therefore you really aren't gaining anything. Just go have a private wedding and support yourselves and plan for the future. Make a will and be happy with whom you are. Nobody can take that away from you. Unless you choose to move to Iran or some other neighboring country. Today's alphabet community is driving a wedge right down the middle of our country. You have self segregated and blame everyone else for it. Not you personally. Please don't take that as I'm only referring to you. You now have an entire month dedicated to yourselves and straight people aren't welcome because we don't understand your lifestyle. You had a special flag over the Whitehouse or Capital. You already had a flag that represents every American living here or abroad regardless of who you identify as. The alphabet community descended on public schools and singled out anyone that didn't fit " the norm". Fat and lonely? Gay! Skinny and introverted? Gay! Nerdy? Gay! Socially picked on? Gay! Loner? Gay! Come be part of our group. We accept anyone. Just not straight people. Now your group thinks it's okay to Trespass on others principles and bring a sexualy charged atmosphere into public schools. Do you honestly believe children are concerned about sex before they are able to engage in it? People need to stay out of everyone else's heads. We still love you regardless. But who cares besides you and your group what your sexual preferences are? I hope to be famous someday so I can make fun of the situation. Once I win my award?! I plan to announce I had anal sex with my wife last night. Wish you were there. It was awesome and we won't be aborting any babies anytime soon. Peace out. Hope you found that somewhat humorous.
@@ForbiddenTemptation I create things all the time..
You cut off the part where Dinesh asked Ayers is he willing to commit his support for Evangelical Christians, who are targeted against on liberal college campuses today?
Of course. Did you expect anything less?
The best way to "target" Evangelical Christians is to read the Bible.
@@ChrisPierreBaconi dont think people fall for that scheme anymore, 'you know who' ruined it for everyone.
What a sniveling, little weasel Ayers is.
Why special rights for choosing something you want, and not forced by others? Do I get special rights for something I like?
Congrats! We ALL have the same rights. NO ONE is better than anyone else, and NO ONE needs special rights.
@ELWATCH01 what special rights do they have
@@teamtundra2619 the point would be they shouldn't have any regardless of if they do or do not.
@@dylannewton9986 the question is what rights do you think they are asking for?
As with every other homophobe in this comment section, you can't seem to name any rights that gay people have that straight people don't. Seriously. Name one. I'll wait.
Oh and Dinesh D'Souza roundhouse kicked his ex-wife in the face.
You ARE NOT brave or special.
I am.
They need help not affirmation.
I wonder if his next question was for Bill Ayers and his part in the murder of cops and blowing up the capitol when he was in the Weather underground?
All Gays already have the same rights as everyone else as individuals not as a group.
D'Souza is right. 💯%
Dinesh D'Souza roundhouse kicked his ex-wife in the face
D’Souza is a smart guy.
No special rights due ro race either.
2:27-2:35
Guy: Will you now endorse X?
Dinesh: I don’t know what you mean by ‘X’.
Guy: JUST ENDORSE IT ANYWAY, BIGOT!
Truly the height of intellectual honesty and rigor.
Another call by the Church of Woke to repent of your heresy and unorthodoxy and recite their declaration of faith or face anathemas and excommunication.
I agree with D'Souza. It does NOT say only "Straight Persons" have inalienable rights.... That is why we should not of went to war in the 1860's. (For those of you still in public schools and recent college graduates.....The Civil War.) No where that I remember does it say only Whites were considered human, and not blacks in the U.S. Constitution. But that is exactly what the Democrats thought then, and still do. Hence the Civil War, and the need to "abolish slavery" that the Constitution never did mention when originally drawn up. Imagine, if people were religious and believed that everyone was equal. That was claimed to be the case south of the Mason-Dixon Line but in reality never put into use, and to a degree in many areas of the "North". Too bad we lost so many during that disgraceful war. I treat everyone equal until they prove me wrong, be they Black, Brown, Yellow, Queer, Gay or Transgendered.
Uhm the constition is not the only law in your nation. It is also far from perfect. In fact anything not specifically and explicitly stated in the constitution can theoretically be exploited, unless a law bill was already passed that closes that hole. Part of the Jim crow laws that made black people loose all their constitutional rights was simply defining them as "not men" or not human in today's terms (men and human used to be interchangeable) , rendering them an exception from the constution, because the constitution itself doesn't define what a human actually is and what a human isn't.
The only problem I have with your comment is that the War of Northern Aggression (AKA Civil War) was about slavery. It was about economics, slavery wasn't propagandized until the North couldn't get enough people to care. In point of fact, slavery was only mentioned as an example of an overreaching federal government. The South said it was not up to the federal government to decide if a state was a slave state, it was up to the individual state. In fact, the South planned to eliminate slavery by 1864. Lincoln was heard to say "let the South go? How will we pay for all this?" The thing is, the North was pissed because Southern ports were bringing in more money than the North. I apologize for the length of this reply, I just couldn't make it shorter. Lol.
@PBR Streetgang And? Your point is? Most people don't care what you do or don't do in your life. The problem comes when you want to force your lifestyle on others or take their rights away for your special treatment.
@@FaeyUmbrea Hence the 14th amendment. While the United States Constitution may not be perfect, it's a damn sight better than most alternatives.
@@stevenbass732 that is just objectively wrong. Not only is it one of the most outdated pieces of jurisdiction among nations that do have something comparable. The process of adding anything meaningful to it is also so needlessly complex that barely anybody does it.
No special rights for lusty people. And rights for all human beings.
@@justacomment2989
Statistics say otherwise... 70x more like to get HIV, disproportionately more prone to other sexual transmitted diseases, more suicidal, depression at higher rates, etc etc it's just not healthy for the individuals involved, nor society at large.
While not outlawed there should be a campaign of awareness that tells the public this is not "cool" or benign- its destructive
@@eew8060 why do you think they are more likely to get HIV?
@@eew8060Until homosexuality is curable,you can't say "this isn't cool" and just expect it to stop! With sex,you can encourage celibacy but that would cause more depression.
It's not about Equal Rights!!!
These people want More Rights than everyone else!!!!!
What are some examples?
There are no Lgbtxyz, black, white, yellow, red rights…there is only Human Rights!
Gay rights, transgender rights, how about human rights. this special treatment is sickening. Black lives matter, white lives matter, brown lives matter, how about all lives matter. I despised liberal ideologies as well as special rights and treatment. This is not American values. This is barbaric values that put societies in decadence.
@OTISIN GREENER The bible declared thousands of years ago what it took science and technology to confirm. It doesn't condone rape, murder or any other evil but you put your blind faith in other people's opinions. The concept of big bang didn't emerge until the 1920s. Before then the only explanation of existence was the bible. How could the theory of evolution be written before there was an explanation for existence? You have troubles trying to explain these theories which science has never and can never prove.
@OTISIN GREENER It would help if you learned to discern scripture
The Israelites didn't murder or rape. This should help explain Judges and Numbers,
enduringword.com/bible-commentary/numbers-31/
As for Deut 20, it plainly States that when the Israelites went to a city, they should offer peace and accept peace in return but if the city wanted to war with them then they should war with them to protect themselves.
Deut 22 refers to consensual sex between a man and an unmarried woman he seduces. The verse uses the word humbled her. The man would pay her father a dowry and the man and woman would marry. How do you get rape out of That? The punishment for rape was death. Your error is not using kjv for reference.
Brown Lives Matter?
@@denacampbell6228 evolution is already proven as fact. macro and micro evolution are not debated upon by any scientists or experts anywhere in the world. you can even test the ideas of evolution yourself and observe generational change in plants and animals. its not that hard.
@@muzak913 Google Former Evolution Professors Turned Creation Scientists. They say they were told not to do any research, that they must only remember the data they were taught, or rather indoctrinated with. It is impossible for anything that cannot be observed and tested to be proven . You are a gullible non thinker. There are no Darwinian changes in anything. Darwins theory is that we evolved from animals. Finches, for example, idiots like yourself use in order to "prove" evolution just because beaks are shaped differently according to region. That is not evolution. They are still birds. Your plants are still plants and the kind of animal is still within its own kind. Can't get horses from cows. Scientists agree that Genesis is the most scientifically accurate account. You believe in other people's opinions and deceptions. There is no shame in not knowing something because you haven't been taught properly but it is downright appalling and disgusting not to want to learn.
It's a stupid question based on a lie.
Dinesh D'Souza: one smart dude.
OTISIN GREENER lol replying to every comment on here. Fuck you SJW
Dinesh D'Souza spouts well rehearsed right wing talking points to idiots like you. He's a clown. Also, he roundhouse kicked his ex-wife in the face and committed felony campaign finance fraud.
Groups tend to not like when you say that we all have the same rights.
Groups are looking to be held in higher esteem than their peers.
The word you’re looking for is “protected class.”
What rights do gay people have that straight people don't? Name one.
Oh and Dinesh D'Souza roundhouse kicked his ex-wife in the face.
Great response👍
Bill Ayes wouldn't comment on religious rights, he was quite quiet
What a great answer at the 3:11 mark. Nothing more needs to be said on that question. For minorities claiming they must have 'special' rights only creates division.
It creates envy as well.
@@MuhammadFarukh more hate than envy.
Couldn’t understand a word they were saying. Usually Dinesh D’Souza has excellent microphones for the questions and his replies, not this time.
Agree completely that the sound system was Terrible
In other words, the same rights as anyone else are not enough for gays?
Well said, Dinesh!
People like that gentleman in the middle, only want that question that he asked about affirming certain rights to satisfy their own self righteousness.
Not easy to get out of this one. Dinesh did that brilliantly.
Audio is no good....
Amen, Amen and Amen
Dinesh blasts Bill Ayers off the stage. Ayers thought he had Dinesh trapped - he was dead wrong.
Sounds suspiciously like a stacked audience.
I also believe in human rights. Not gay rights, straight rights, black rights, whites rights, women's rights, men's rights and all this nonsensical wash down of endless divisions.
Special rights by the anointed distributed in the pursuit of power, don’t fall for it kids.
Bill Ayers, such a smug, pompous, antagonizer
Reality dictates it is what's between one's legs that defines ones gender, and NOT what is lacking between one's ears!
A group of 1. Nice.
Terrible audio
Marriage is not a right. If it were, government would be responsible for finding spouses for everyone who can't find one on their own. Gay people don't have the right to change the definition of marriage. Civil unions will do them just fine. I don't believe they want marriage, but validation that their unions are the same as straight unions. But nature tells us they are not. If gay people are so proud of their attraction to people of the same sex (gay pride), why are they not happy unless they are doing what straight people do?
" Marriage is not a right. If it were, government would be responsible for finding spouses for everyone who can't find one on their own"
Simply, bullshit, no nice way to say it.
+J.B. Robertson I was on board with same sex marriage till I read that post. that person is absolutely correct,
Civil Unions turned out to be inadequate, and besides, as one sign said, "I didn't ask her to 'Civil Union' me."
Marriage that's benefits civil unions don't. Some religions have gay marriage.
@@Parapraxis1980 Turney v. Safey. Finding one is your business, as is buying a gun
Does he ever lose? Ever?
Equal rights is equality while special rights is inequality.
Beautiful answer.
Equal opportunity NOT preferential treatment
Dinesh Is A Great Man!!!
As a gay male - dinesh is a hero :) mahalo
Right on Dinesh. Collective rights come at the cost of individual rights. Soon it comes to mean no rights or freedom at all.
It's not LGBTQ its really LGBTQ and BNP
DINESH IS THE MAN.
Read the Constitution people. There is no mention of group rights.
Dinesh nailed it! "Special" group rights are a lie!
I know some gay men that would think its weird a man carries a hand bag. Its just a matter of taste.
It’s also a joke
Good answer Dinesh!
They don't have "rights", other than the human rights of everyone.
Individual rights!
Eric Harris I don't think conservatives care what two consenting adults do lol. They just don't want the government to validate same sex marriage
Eric Harris yes, they do not want to validate it, but my comment was directed to your original point, they could care less what two consenting adults do regardless if you're male or female.
Oscar Rivas Is that why Southern states keep trying to keep sodomy illegal and are still bashing gays left and right. Get the fuck over yourself, please. The right has flaws. Stop with this tribalistic denial.
Eric Harris yes some governors in the south want to ban sodomy, however, there are more conservatives abroad who generally speaking don't care what two adults do.
Eric Harris also, I don't deny that the the right has flaws, every party has flaws including the left. Never did I say the right is perfect. You might want to drop the rhetoric and start discussing like an adult rather than like a 10 year old who thinks he knows it all.
I am sure that that fellow at the middle lectern has given his "full-throated endorsement" to "LGBT rights" many times over.
Why didn't Ayers go to jail because of sedition?
What Bill Ayers is referring too is special rights. Same old story.
It would be fine if the left called for an equal right to marriage in a courthouse but they chose to say lgbtq rights as if they believe only lgbtq people have the right to certain things. By how they word it they imply that lgbtq people are different than normal people and should be given specific rights due to that. A right is supposed to be for everyone not specific groups. If it cannot be enforced for everyone it should not be a right.
Equal rights.
Not “special rights”.
You don’t rate anything extra just because you’re gay,confused,etc..
I love Dinesh
What’s scary is that they are going to indict Trump 😳 I can’t believe this is America! Thank you Dinesh and may God continue to bless you 🙏
Trump evaded taxes and should pay them. Dinesh D'Souza roundhouse kicked his ex-wife in the face and committed felony campaign finance fraud. He belongs in prison.
Incarcerating Dinesh was wrong!
Foreigners who commit felony violations of our election laws should be deported!
*Nice try Bill Ayers.*
If you are a biological male who identifies as a woman you can go into girls showers without any question, using that criterea is enough !! To me its common sense it should not be allowed for multiple reasons, to people like the guy asking the question i'm transphobic
This comment tells me that you're completely comfortable with a person with the physical appearance of a woman using your rest room, showers or whatever while you're in there if you're a male. Or someone who looks like a man to come into your viccinity in showers etc. That is so cool! 🙂
There are qualifiers
@@afriquedamy3079 it always happens the other way round, biological men go into women's showers, just like sports, 99% of times it's biological men competing in women's sport. Not surprising is it !! Yes she can come into my showers, once she removes his/her clothes we are back on equal terms 😃
I wish an LBGTQ person would explain to me what rights they want want that they DONT have? ANd I have many LBGT friends.......
Brilliant.
Believe WHATEVER you wish. That is your right.
Wear whatever you wish (within the dictates of polite society). That is your right.
Smoke whatever you wish. Eat whatever you wish. Drink whatever you wish. Worship whatever you wish. It is your right to do so.
But whatever you do..
DO NOT attempt to harness the Immense and Awesome might of an Almighty Imperial Federal Government to either force me to participate in your life if I choose not to.. or to compensate you in any way for the consequences of your poor decision making.
You do not have a right to ANYthing... which would deprive another individual of either life, liberty or property through force or fraud... no matter HOW righteous you believe your cause to be. MY cause is just as righteous to me - and yet I would NEVER ask government to force you to participate in it. I will leave you alone to live the life you choose.. and would only ask that you extend to me the same courtesy. Fair enough?
Dinesh is awesome. I like him.
I like Dinesh..
Can someone pleaseee show me the pommy wommy?!?!?! 😢😢😢
Well... he side stepped a landmine question there at the end. It would have been interesting to know where he stands on the issue. However, it was a good response nonetheless, just not a revealing response as to his position on the issue. I think it is the first time I come across a video where he avoids revealing where he stands. I don't think the question was about special rights but about legislation guaranteeing equal rights. Something that is not always achieved without special legislation as proven by the number of amendments to the constitution guaranteeing things such as the right to vote for women, blacks, etc... these were not special rights either, they were rights being denied that required legislation to insure they were protected.
Dinesh Rocks. screw special rights
I think funding should go to the ATBBQ group❗️ all things barbecued ‼️
A whole month to celebrate one’s sexual preferences. You can’t make this shit up. One day for veterans ( some who are gay )
2000 mules
These groups want so badly to be recognized as special! Just go about your business because 99 percent of people could care less
Ayers ia a deluder of truth. A Michael shermer of logic and good. Another evil that should sit down and listen. And should never have the mic!!
But isn't that what liberals propose censuring the opposition?
Dinesh is on point 👍💯
Good answer! Not cornered by leftist question and pressured about special rights not afforded in US Constitution. Each of us is a 'Minority of One' entitled to full rights of Constitution.
What about all the amendments, such as the one guaranteeing the rights of women to vote, or the Civil Rights act of 1964, prohibiting discrimination on the basis of race? Sometimes, to guarantee equal rights, you need special legislation to combat the previous reality of rights being denied to particular groups. D'Souza sidestepped the question--if he was really interested in individual rights (universally), he would be against all the conservative bedroom laws.
@@ishanloomba788 Women's vote was about gender, Civil Rights 64 (not part of the US Constitution, but voted into law by Repiblicans not Dixiecrats) was about race, neither of which are a behavioral moral choice. So DeSuza is correct.
@@donkloos9078 You can disagree with gay people on moral grounds. But no--you have a law against their marriage--that is an infringement upon their liberty. Remember, separation of church and state? Christianity shouldn't be legislated into American society, and pushed upon everyone. People are free to be of any religion, including no religion (atheism).
@@ishanloomba788
Checking facts again, homosexual 'marriage' is legal in all 50 states since 2015. The Constitution does grant immorality to be a liberty, such as theft, murder, nor homosexuality - the latter bringing 700,000 deaths, over half trillion costs, and untold suffering to USA. Do you support this...theft, murder, too? Morality choices are not necessarily religious-based.
Separation: Constitution defines rights as GOD-Given, under clear context of Judeo-Christian morality, btw. If you separate God out- you therefore have no Constitutional rights. The original 13 States of the USA each had an official State (Christian) religion, which could not be forced upon people, per Constitution, but clearly encouraged and allowed. This framework has protected us, especially from moral relativism (see Hitler, Stalin, Mao) as deceitfully espoused by the left in recent history. You're aware of the LGBTQ leadership crying for the destruction of Christianity in the US, right?
Your arguments are deceitful and belie the cause for the decay of our society and the fruit of it we are seeing now.
Claims that gays are not a problem in America, turns around and writes a book claiming they started 9/11 and were also not target by nazis…. Way to show off your iq there Buddy. Fyi, there are right wing conservatives out there that are anti gay just as there are gays and or atheists who are anti religion.
wee grasshopper when you can walk on rice paper and not break wind you will be a man....Kung Fu...oriental wise man...
Really the student pressed on Dinesh about lgbtq bullcrap because it looked like the other speaker tried too and failed miserably lol because the only rights are individual rights there's no such thing as group rights there's no straight or heterosexual rights so why should there be gay rights and marriage isn't a right it's a more of a luxury and a business proposal that two family's form a union between a man and a woman one family son and the other family daughter for better economic reasons lol so yeah lol
I'm all for LGB!! Let's Go Brandon!!
LGBTQACB
Homosexuals always had a right - correction, the freedom to marry - as long as it was to an opposite sex human consenting adult of legal age.
The "as long as" takes away from the word "Freedom". They're not the same thing
Not who they love that was a consenting adult.
I won't do it i know gay who say Father Johove made gay no he did not that is a choice just like women dating men and you say o i am a Christian but gay no your not a Christian if you live a gay life style and if a precher tells a gay person Father Johove and Lord JESUS is ok with you being and the bible teaching is not true then just like EVERYONE else you can go to hell for living that life style and the preacher's who tell you will not go to hell will himself will go to hell
Who would choose to like the same gender
if it happens in nature, it's natural. no exceptions.
Pedophilia is natural?
Hamster Sama no exceptions
All things are natural then. Burning fossils fuels, cutting down forests, all human activity is natural. Whether it’s natural isn’t the issue. It whether we think it’s for the best. ‘It’s natural’ isn’t a legitimate defense for anything. That being said, I’m fine with gay rights. Just don’t use a weak argument to support it
Dan Saber ,
There are brain abnormalities in nature, but it doesn’t mean it’s normal.
Natural, but not normal.
Wow. Dartmouth posts this and d Souza has a fabulous rebutal. No special rights. Perfect rebuttal to ayers too.
Desouza is awesome on everything but religion. Then he gets hitchslapped...
Then I wonder why as a Christian, he is awesome on everything.
As always, Dinesh is correct.
if it happens in nature, it's natural. no exceptions.
murder happens in nature
So?
oh then lets not worry about cancer since its natural
But when you push lies about scientific proven truth on children, that's abuse and indoctrination
Dan Saber, natural doesn't make it right.