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One Marvellous Scene - The Loki Interrogation
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2021
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This video is an excerpt from a larger video breaking down Black Widow, you can find it here - • Black Widow: An Unbrid...
During the video I wanted to share that Natasha has become quite a different person and one way to understand it is by looking at the three interrogations across two movies.
One being the story that revealed her history and one that ended her story.
Comparing them can reveal the differences in approach from the writers.
Look at Loki in this scene. He's captured, unarmed, overmatched (against the whole team), and absolutely in danger. Look how slowly he moves. He's doesn't scamper or flap. He doesn't bark or burst with pomposity. He paces, slowly. He listens. He asks unassuming questions, he gets comfortable, he picks at scabs in his opponent's soul. He draws them in. He likes it and enjoys the joust. Then he shows them the real him, he escalates, and hits them with words hard enough to crack a mountain.
Now picture Loki in "Loki the Series". He's been captured by body-positive space cop. He's barely handcuffed with nothing but her hand over his arm holding him as he's marched through the TVA. He flaps, he scampers, he postures, and complains. Loudly. He clowns. He mugs. He goes along with it (note: he does not *play along* for his own amusement or intentionally get captured to discover more about his enemy or sabotage them from the inside. He goes along with it, under duress). He learns absolutely nothing about the TVA that they aren't willing to spell out for him. He participates. He is, and never ceases to be, out of his depth.
But it's awesome apparently because... "character development".
For the first three-fourths of Loki I was waiting, *dying* for him to have been playing a part. I mean, at the end of the day, it didn't add up at all that he was faking, but I really wanted to believe the writers understood him to be the MCU's god of... mischief? Maybe? That would've been nice. If they knew who they were writing. Yeah.
@@kylefrank638 This is the monumental danger that comes with allowing participation trophy writers the chance to take over writing a complex and popular character that's been well-served by other, more experienced hands, and expecting them to do the work, keep it consistent, and pay attention to motivation, and character boundaries (as in what they absolutely will or won't do, what they absolutely can and cannot do) in order to make the character feel authentic and allow the audience to buy into the twists and curveballs you want to throw at them. Drop that ball, and the audience rejects EVERYTHING you propose wholesale. You lose them so much quicker than the time it took to draw them in. And so few modern writers (in Hollywood) understand this so they don't understand why, after they hoof their 1st drafts in and they get taken directly to the sound stage for shooting, that the audience's faces drop and the forum and comment sections erupt in WTF tsunamis of malcontent.
That's the main problem with Loki, it's just not funny enough to justify whatever plot they were going for. I would have looked the other way if they made it FUN, by that i mean, make me laugh through the plot.
I will say episode 5 with the other Lokis, while ultimately nonsense, was at least fun.
But the rest of the show was inexcusably joyless.
As much as I enjoy some aspects of the Loki show (Loki himself is still my favourite, the Loki variant fellows like Kid Loki, Alligator Loki, etc. have their own charms, and I found Mobius somewhat engaging in a somewhat oddball, mustachioed store clerk sort of way), this video has nailed the main issue I have with the show itself: Loki isn't allowed to really be his full character, not like how the way the films do. He's somehow done what should be impossible, and been rendered second banana to a female version of himself *in his own show* while the script makes me want to scratch my head and demand answers as to how the TVA's very existence isn't technically obliterating years of Canon buildup since there was so much importance given to the Stones and now we as the audience know that the TVA can just render them totally useless paperweights at will (and tbh that look on Loki's face when he realises for the second time that his whole entire existence is a giant crappy lie is absolutely crushing).
Sylvie herself is an ok character, but it's immensely frustrating to see that she gets so much spotlight and magical show-off points (and yes, it's petty as heck and I will admit it to be so, but did they make her blonde specifically to stand out among all the dark-haired Lokis?? The Loki of myth had red hair, I would've thought that could've been a nice reference to the source material instead, but here she looks like she could've actually been Thor's sister and that...looks odd, tbh, given that Hela is considered Odin's offspring in the MCU films and she's a ravenette that does NOT share Odin or Frigga's hair colour) and Loki is basically stuck in the passenger seat for 75% of the runtime because something is being exposited to the audience/regurgitated for Loki to be told something.
In true Mauler fashion. He takes a simple idea like "One Marvelous Scene" and introduces new depth by not only celebrating what Marvel has accomplished in the past, but comparing it to what Marvel is failing to accomplish now. Fantastic, my friend. And well timed.
It’s also really two marvelous scenes since he also talks about her introduction in the avengers.
"I won't *touch* Barton. Not until I make him *kill* you. Slowly. Intimately. In every way he knows you fear. Then, he'll wake just long enough to see his good work, and when he screams I'LL SPLIT HIS SKULL!!"
-- Loki to Black Widow, 2012
"IF YOU GO, I GO!"
-- Loki to Sylvie, 2021
I really don't like hurting people. I'm not really that bad. I'm weak and crap at everything. And dumb. I just want attention from anyone. No one specifically, like Odin. Just anyone. And also I'm Bi now. Always was. Didn't you notice? And I love Sylvie because reasons. Also, ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE! NO!!! - Some guy Tom Hiddleston's playing who definitely isn't Loki.
Cut to goofy wacky hero Loki not a day after this scene.
What a quote, man; very reflective of Loki's character
@@HalfBrainGamers technically its an alternative 2012 or 2023 but outside time....idk
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen from you. Incredible.
Awh, thanks dude
Ooooh c´mon, you only say that because it´s short! :D
That’s a low bar.
Sigh. A gamma troll...
Snyder Derangement Syndrome find a cure!
There is no doubt in my mind that during this scene, if that glass wasn't there, Black Widow would be dead. Outside of Hulk and Thor (probably Strange too), this Loki is a mortal threat to every Avenger. Loki against Cap, Iron Man, Black Panther, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Spider-Man, Ant-Man, any individual Guardian... one on one, he's life-threatening.
And then the Loki show happened, and he gets chinned by big-boned space cops and hoofed off trains by a couple of security guards. Because... err... "character development"?
When you beat the powerful boss and they join your team...
Yeah the lamest part of that was negating his natural strength. He is someone that can at least hang with thor for a bit even if it’s in part using magic and illusion. Hopefully they do this dumb season 2 get him back in the main timeline and fix him up but who knows
I'd rather have the story of this power-hungry and sociopathic madman than this whimpering tool with little to no agency.
Two different men, both named Loki.
@@wojak-sensei6424 What would have been wrong with him being recruited as a TVA agent only to steal a bunch of infinity stones and the first time he goes into the field he illusions his way to freedom?
He charges through time with the timepads and time stone, looking for this other Loki who also wants to dismantle this seemingly all-powerful organisation, and learn more about his bureaucratic enemy? What if his prime motivation is not to change the fate he saw in the video for himself, but actually to save his mother's life, humanising him but also without needing to strip the usual vicious, devious, and chaotic Loki persona that 2012 Loki did so well.
Eventually, his goals (to bargain with Kang) and Sylvie's goals (to kill Kang) will diverge, creating a conflict, which would still work if they develop a relationship during their travels and their torment of the TVA. It would also give Loki a more personal vendetta when he finally confronts Kang, the man who decided that Loki only exists to die, that his mother had to die, forcing Loki to bargain for another reality or find a way to outfox Kang, rather than just being a passenger while Sylvie completes her goals. It makes his journey so much more personal and in line with where his character was in and around Thor 2. It's more consistent and agented. It's proactive. It's Loki.
What is so hard about this? All those pieces are there, but they decide to nerf him, sideline him, and attach him to another character's journey. He's a passenger in his own show. He's the companion to Sylvie's Doctor. It's bizarre. And it's no fun to watch happen.
@@captbuckyohare5585 Now that is the type of rat I want to see. It accomplishes in both empathizing with a seemingly unredeemable character while staying true to his principles in a way that seems like actual character progression rather than a character assassination. It also has room to prop up everyone's favorite selfcest OC Sylvie, as her and Loki's angle is now that of conflicting interests and in the process, one can learn a thing from the other in ways that make for compelling storytelling.
All it takes is a little bit of compromising to make this story great. The fact that they can't even concede on those grounds makes me think that it's has less to do with ignorance or incompetence and has more to do with legitimate spite. They want to tell their own story, and Loki is getting in the way. And so they didn't bother respecting his character, because they want their vision untouched while dismantling the very story they were supposed to honor.
I rather have given these hack writers their own show to ruin if they only view this industry as a playground for their vanity projects.
Not only do you give us an unbridled rage-- scratch that, an unbridled catastrophe, that’s 4 hours and 18 minutes mind you, but you also drop a section from it and explain it and why it’s one of the most marvelous scenes from Marvel. Well done Mewbellshliem... er... inhiemers, well done.
Somewhere on Twitter: "Imagine 4 hours of complaining about a strong woman." *tism noises*
These are reuploads
@@kylevernon I said it’s from the section of his unbridled catastrophe. I know it’s a “reupload.”
its a good thing you mentioned the unbridled catastrophe because I didn't get a notification for that :\
@@nilloc93 Ayy, no problemo. Susan can be a tism sometimes.
Yes! This is the best Loki/Black Widow we’ve been presented.
He didn´t even mention the amazing visuals when Loki was growing as a reflection behind Natasha. Really a stunning Scene.
Cringey.
That and Avengers EMH has a better understanding of these characters better than modern Marvel.
Loki is the main villain of season 1 has orchestrates some events, by causing the breakout and forming the masters of evil by his connections with Enchantress, while he was imprisoned, also he would’ve won his first fight against Thor but he wanted to lose.
Black widow isn’t around much in the show due to the fact she’s posing as a agent for Hydra, she framed Hawkeye to prove her loyal, so that she can rise up the ranks of Hydra without anyone knowing.
@@antraxxslingshots I was going to comment on that as well! This frame is so good! And it's also very similar to a scene from The Silence of the Lambs where Hannibal's face is reflected in the glass while he's talking to Clarice.
@@montsesanchez9297 Yes you are right. I remember that Scene!
Is there anything more depressing than old photos of someone whose life has absolutely gone to hell?
I'm honestly jealous on how good Mauler is at breaking down media and being able to find inconsistencies that many would overlook. Say what you want, but more video Essayist should strive to be more like Mauler in their analysis of film. Great work long man.
I'd like to see you as a guest on EFAP, your videos on the CW shows are great.
Didn't expect to see you here good sir! I liked your Barry iris ruined video along with your flash season 5 video 👍🏻
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 thanks man. That would be sick if it ever happened.
@@sammydray5919 thanks you, glad to see we both have good taste in content creators.
Sometimes i do feel his arguments drag on for way too long with filler. I get that it strengthens his argument to the point where it almost cant be disputed, but sometimes he could say the same with half the wording
Still Love the guy and his work
These two scenes are why Natasha was one of my dad’s top tier favorite characters in Marvel. She WAS incredibly written.
Because of the movies or is he an OG comic book guy?
@@LividCreature doesn't the fact that they said "these two scenes" automatically imply that black widow was loved because of the movie?? Why even ask about being a fan of og comics here?
@@sammydray5919 I may or may not have been on a third Kentucky mule when I asked such things
@@LividCreature Ah. Fair enough lol
Now we have Loki being a former villain who suddenly cares about people and submissive to Sylvie.
And Natasha being written out of her own movie (or maybe the “Black Widow” movie was meant for Yelena, not her).
bUt hE wATcHeD a vIDeO!!!
what do you mean maybe? everything Marvel does these days is about setting up the next movie... what happens in the moment just needs to fill a quota for explosions and jokes...
@Petrie W True but it was never this egregious and blatantly obvious until now.
@@jon2949 and it's only going to get worse. Star Wars is basically what Disney wants Marvel to be... and it's a bleak, inane, idiotic future indeed...
Loki did care about people rewatch Thor 1. The frost giant thing was a prank on Thor to ruin his big day and when it went wrong and Thor wanted to go to jodenheim he rolled with it and used it as an attempt to show Odin that Thor isn't ready. Eventhough loki agrees the frost giants need to be destroyed. As much as I hate Thor it's only really the stuff on earth that sucks all the asguard stuff is actually interesting
And to think *this* Loki in about 1 weeks time will be groveling at a female version of himself having recently admonished everything hes done as "attention seeking".
Some selfcest fanfic lemon writer managed to get a deal with Marvel. If that weirdo can make it big, then so can I!
If you consider what Hela says in Ragnarok, then it's just him being insecure on a cosmic scale.
Loki isn't doing anything Hela hasn't described Asgardians doing thought the realms for centuries. The only difference is looking at the situation from his perspective. Basically Loki's character boils down to: Why does everyone else get to go out and conqueror realms for the glory of Asgard but when I do it now it's an issue? Are you ashamed of me? I want a cool war story too🙄🙄🙄
Sounds like Loki just wanted approval from Odin by doing what he thinks Odin/Hela would have done and that sounds like attention seeking.
@@uutakke1 Children who grow up feeling not only the absence of their father's love, but at the same time, but are reminded daily that another sibling is more "worthy" than them to the point that it warps their perceptions of the world and fills them with resentment and contradictory feelings of love and hate towards their own family, and what counts as strength and worthiness within that family, is not "attention-seeking". It's a tragic study of sibling rivalry, paternal intimacy and approval, familial expectations, and broken relationships between fathers and sons.
Please stop defending the dumbing down of a complex, nuanced, tragic, and compelling antagonist to fit the poorly written show's cack-handed handling of their character. It's simplistic, unsophisticated, dreck level writing. Stop making excuses for it. You deserve better as a fan.
@@captbuckyohare5585 most people don’t have standards tbh,
Her intro scene was basically a blue print for her own movie, and The Winter Soldier shows they could have pulled a good spy movie, but instead, they made Black Widow...
The winter soldier is far from good, it sucks
@@ccscrew7728 You are very alone in that opinion
@@TimPortantno MauLer literally agrees
@@ccscrew7728 They hate plenty of good movies, I don't think you realize what "alone" means but it's great that your favorite reviewer agrees with you. Do you want to tell me why your favorite color is actually the best color, too?
@@TimPortantno Alone means on your own, which I clearly am not if people agree.
Winter soldier has similar problems to black widow, that is why it is criticised, not hated.
Winter soldier is an enjoyable movie, but not a good one.
They dont hate good movies, they criticise movies that dont hold up based on their standards
The Loki interogation scene reminds me of "Silence of the Lamb" where Clarisse interogates Hannibal and how the power dynamic changes between the characters.
Truly a superb writing.
Same! Also Loki reminds me of Hannibal, in case he speaks so sophisticated and his elegance, and how he plays psychologically mind with Natasha (Clarice).
Even in the first Thor movie if you look closely, Loki has the same hairstyle as Hannibal, only Loki has more hair.
@@montsesanchez9297 And Anthony Hopkins plays Odin, what are the odds :p
What I was confused at was Natasha calling herself a weak, defenseless woman. It's so obvious that she's neither weak nor defenseless, especially compared to this old, fat, short, apparently senile man with big glasses. It's a lie that everyone there knows: Natasha, Drekov and the audience after seeing her survive unhumanly injuries.
...It was to send a message, right? For the themes? End me...
I'm normaly pretty bad at mindgames but holy shit I was facepalming the whole time in Black Widow. I didn't know who should I be more embarassed for, guy who should have been Palpatine, based on his achievments, was Weinstein instead, giving everything away to impress a hot chick or super spy Natasha repeating "you suck" and pretending it was some elaborate ruse.
Watching this I also finally decided not to keep Loki on my HDD. I forgot how cool he used to be.
Very generous to call whatever the fuck that was in Black Widow as "mind games." I half expected it to be her just blurting out her feefees. That "thank you for your cooperation" shit felt so shoehorned. In fact, the entire exchange was shoehorned into a gotcha moment when it just fucking absurd.
If we're comparing interrogation scenes to sparring matches, Drakov and her both dropped their swords and Drakov just straight up shoved a dagger in himself. Let's just say it's not exactly BBC Sherlock.
imo having black widow actually stop when she's told she's assigned to the hulk really shows how scared she is of the hulk
she's an expert in her field, but her field is people. people can be tricked, manipulated. if she comes to blows with people, she has the training to take them on.
but the hulk. the hulk can't be tricked because he doesnt listen. he can't be taken down with martial arts or spy gadgets because even anti-tank weapons struggle to hurt him. she can deal with bruce, maybe, but if she messes up, well...as we can see in the movie, her best bet is to put a bullet into banner's head before he fully turns, and we later find out even that would not have worked
Where's the nuggies MauLer? WHERE'S THE NUGGIES MAULER?
The nuggies HAD THEIR CHANCE !!!
Mauler's not here
Guess you'll just have to DIE
Where are the nuggies? Are they ready?
@@yashaoftheflames8475 Where did you learn to make Nuggies!? ON A FARM!?
They're down there somewhere, lemme take another look.
Just got done watching Black Widow: An Unbridled Catastrophe. Easily one of the greatest videos I’ve ever seen. MauLer continues to be one of the better reviewers and I’m so glad I came across EFAP since the very beginning. Can’t wait for EFAP’s third year anniversary!
Fully agree
Yeah its so mindblowing to see that even Mauler gets better over time, learns from every video he does. And still one can see the same style that has been there from the beginning.
They're not "careful" enough when speaking in group, those EFAP (what a stupid designation) videos, don't like them... They're just like the Marvel films, great individual ideas and scenes (if not epic), but ultimately very little substance. Anyway..:)
Someone on twitter is bound to complain "How do you make a 20 minute video on a single scene. LONG MAN BAD!".
Oh damn I'm 35 years old and I'm having to argue with myself to not get a LongMan and Rags plushie... What are you doing to me you evil Welshman?!
Pretent to buy them as Christmas gifts and then conveniently forget to give them away.
Remember when Black Widow and Loki were cool? That was 2012 folks 🥲
Remember when writing was crafted by talented people who understood characterisation, and escalation, enough to elevate both the Male villain and the female protagonist at the same time, and allow her to shine through intelligent dialogue and highlighting her ingenuity and skillset without artificially diminishing his to the point where he's essentially turned into a moron just so she can win?
I member.
@@captbuckyohare5585 why must you make me sad good sir?
@@diegoharrison5925 Because if we know how to spot shit, and also articulate why it's shit, then maybe they will stop looking at their shit scripts and uttering the kiss of death words of "That'll do" before heading off to shoot the next nail in Marvel's coffin.
@@captbuckyohare5585 oh man the writing has taken a huge nosedive post Infinity War.
@@waseem__600 It really has. But the writing was on the wall with Captain Marvel, The Antmans, and parts of Endgame.
Marvel’s Loki: “How to destroy the amazing world building of an established universe in just six episodes!”
America here to save the day right? Lol
@@HBG313 What?
@@grayski3324 its a comment the op made on another vid
@@HBG313 Oh, ok then.
technically they only needed one. the worldbuilding is destroyed from the first episode with all the pre-determinism bs.
Phase 4 of the MCU reminds me of Stage 4 Cancer.
There is no Stage 5.
Vegeta:This cancer thing is pretty strong, I don’t think I’ll win.
Two videos in one day?
We're being spoiled boys!
And Rags uploaded a video yesterday!
FLESH IS WEAK
@@The-Real-JD but deeds endure
I would've felt spoiled if it were in one week.
THE FLESH IS WEAK! BUT DEEDS ENDURE!
The best thing about the Black Widow movie was that it made me appreciate Black Widow's character beforehand. Back when Avengers came out, I didn't have my "TLJ experience" that inspired my mind to be more critically thinking. Thanks to this and my relative youth, I had totally missed the skillful characterization of Black Widow in scenes like this. I am so glad and thankful that you are shining the light on this!
5 years ago i'd have told you Black Widow was the one solo movie i most wanted to see based on how well the character had been built up to Endgame
Then Disney decided writing was something they could do without and now she's just another wasted character
I think the VERY first time I became critical of a movie is when I was about 4 or 5 and I watched Don Bluth's Thumbelina movie. The entire time I was fucking mad that she doesn't just ask the bird to take her home and instead just goes around doing fuckall lol
Yeah, seeing actual shit smeared on our screens these last few years has really made me appreciate what we had
MauLer presenting those plushies at the end is so out of character... but they're the cutest f*ing thing I ever seen, and I WANT THEM!!!!!
The Longman isn't always cold, he can still meme with us and provide nice merchandise.
it is pretty crappy that they forgot that Loki is a GOD of MISCHIEF. His entire role in the universe is to cause chaos, which in turn causes pain and suffering. That's the tragedy of the character, especially when compared with Thor.
If Nando doesn't put this in the playlist, I think it will show some bias...
Add this one to your collection, Nando, I dare you.
I've always thought this scene stood out the most after rewatching. I also like when he says 'your whole world in the balance and you bargain for one man'. It gets me because before he died in IW, he had to bargain for Thor's life with the tesseract. It showed how much Thor had an impact on his life and that he loved him like Nat did to Barton. It's like crazy unintentional foreshadowing.
This was the best part of your four-plus hours of what was an excellent Black Widow analysis.
I'd actually forgotten how great the writing used to be in these earlier MCU films. Well done, Longman.
I love pausing Mauler content to catch up on Mooler content.
The Longman is a man of many talents.
Just make a “the avengers: an unbridled praise” already.
A "One Marvelous Scene" video that's actually ... good? I never thought I'd see the day but here we are
Of course it was good, this is MauLer lmao. Or 'MooLer' since this is the second channel.
@@spartansquid5931 yes, Mooler is very good at making these videos. Who the hell is mauler though?
@@massivetism His evil twin, ignore MeTal though he's kind of a faliure
@@spartansquid5931 If Metal was successful, he would’ve been melted.
I enjoy Mauler highlighting good stuff in movies just as much if not more than the bad stuff. He’s too good at it.
This shows perfectly how the writing had fell off in the MCU and because the mcu had a old track record of decent written scenes people still think they do in their more recent works like Falcon and the winter solider and loki
Watch Natasha's neck when he lists off what she's done. Dracov's daughter, ect ect... She doesn't say a thing, her face doesn't even change. Whether she's doing it purposefully or not, it appears like just her bodies physiological reaction is a tell. Giving away how much each word is starting to hit home. It is superb acting from Scarlett.
I really don't think she expected the depths of his evil. When he explains what he'll have Barton do to her, its a level of dark that really isn't something humans can even express. Think about it - Loki is going to have Natasha's best friend torture her to death in all her most feared ways, let him wake to see what he did, just to finally kill him. This is a horror you rarely even see in our darkest horror movies. It is very clear from future scenes in the movie that this has a real affect on Natasha, which you can see in her face. She was expecting someone human-adjacent, not someone
completely out of the bounds of our morality and getting off on describing what really is her absolute worst nightmare, in a furious tone like he's going to do all of this just to spite her.
I honestly think her whimpering out 'Your a Monster' was a legit reaction from her, not a probing play. I think for her the interrogation ended and she was shaken... but she's a god damn professional, and when he lets slip, you can see her posture changing while she resets and forces herself back into spy mode. Amazing.
The body language, the tone, the writing, the directing, the acting. Truly a marvelous scene.
@@Lordvorius why did you split the comment in two?
Ehhh, Joker’s done worse shit tbh, but I do agree that Loki’s threat is some sick shit.
Can't believe I'm saying this, but those plushies are banging. Showed them to my daughter (who also watches your channels btw😂) and she wants both for her birthday so I'll be buying. Need Wolf and Fringy in Gen2!
No MauLer, put Wolf's behind a sweet, exclusive paywall! Patreon $100 perk! STACK UP THAT GREEN BRO
@@hieronymusboss7705 Fringy is the green bro ;D eyyyyy
If this scene was from 2021 MCU it would be:
"You're pathetic"
"Shut up or I'll use the big green monster against you"
"Thanks for your colaboration"
I feel spoiled with two uploads so close together
This is probably the greatest analysis of my favorite scene in the MCU.
Man...... I miss the days when Marvel was good :(
those days never existed
@@ultimateblaze23 Those days are gone but they will be remembered. Iron 1, Avengers 1, Infinity War, Civil War, Captain America: 1st avenger, Thor 1, and the Spiderman films
@@ultimateblaze23 yeah gotta be honest I’ve never truly enjoyed any of the modern movies. I loved the first X-Men movie back in the day but F4 was awful. But I can understand and appreciate the criticism of the modern fecal matter in these Stage 4 times. Infinity War was pretty cool tho.
I’m still gonna enjoy far from home and multiverse of madness.
The animated marvel shows and movies are underrated.
•Hulk Vs
•Planet Hulk
•Spectacular Spider-Man
•Ironman armored adventures
•X-men evolution
•Avengers E.M.H.
When you want Marvel to take notes about Marvel.
They must look at how far they've fallen.
This is quite timely, since I literally watched the Avengers just a few days back (while in the hospital) and thought very similar things about this scene while watching it.
I felt the need to rewatch it after hearing about the Loki show and his depiction in that. And, oh boy, it felt nice to see a well written and competent Loki on screen.
Thank you for highlighting this. I still like The Avengers and it holds up as a movie, even though I'm not personally an MCU completionist.
Longman has blessed us with 2 videos today!
Well, this was in the Black Widow review.
I always forget how much deeper his voice can get.
Fucking Rags uploads after not doing so for a whole year, & now you’re uploading so much. A hugely welcoming surprise. Love you guys.
17 compelling minutes, I'm so proud of you. Who's a big clever boy.
Please PLEASE do more of this
My god remember when everyone was posting these god awful MARVELOUS videos where they overhyped some average ass scene and made it seem important by being like “Justin Hammer shit his pants and that really speaks to me as I to shit myself”.
Bought a mauler plushie, you’re one of the very few you tubers that has my undying respect, ya’ll give me hope that good writers and artists still exist! Hopefully one day I’ll become a UA-camr like you and we can chat it out on EFAP! Lots of love man! And to the rest of the efap crew!
You are unbelievable in the art of cinematic breakdowns. I'm surprised that you don't do these type of scene analyses often.
These nuggies are for you, Mooly. 🍗🍗🍗🍗🥛
That's good. Now he won't die
@@HerohammerStudiosHe won't die as long as the chicken was cooked by his mom. If it wasn't, he's supposed to die.
The best part of garbage writing is the realization of the quality of what came before.
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
That cut of you saying “Loki” as he hits someone with his cane staff thingy was solid.
So we go from those brilliantly done interrogations, to Natasha simply saying, "Haha! You're a pathetic white male!" and triggering the bad guy and the very same sadistic Loki from that clip immediately becoming a whiny self-cest simp.
MCU's writing is as good as ever, I don't know what anyone is talking about. At least no one can doubt the deliciousness of those mommi nuggies.
Literally just finished the black widow video
Perfectly encapsulate how good the first avengers was... man I didnt even realize how strong that movie was until now... especially when compared to the shit pumped out these days. Great video!
I really like this
I hope Mooler does more of these they're nice to watch and reminisce about good writing that was in the MCU
"Movies are subjective."
-Bilbo Baggins
We are truly blessed this day... A double upload...
Was very much looking forward to this ❤❤
Remember when the MCU was actually good? I do...
@Higesgirl The mcu ended after endgame. Everything else is just fanfiction and side stories now.
@@jon2949 Agreed. MCU died when Tony did.
@@jon2949 I mean that’s literally what comics are.
@Karma110 You’re right what I meant to say was most of the post endgame content we got were forgettable side stories instead of good ones. I should have phrased it better. The only post endgame movie I’m excited for is gotg vol. 3 because it directed by James Gunn. Hopefully I’ll enjoy it as a fun side story like I did with the suicide squad.
@@jon2949 I’m excited for that far from home and Multiverse of Madness I’m excited for Multiverse of madness mainly because sam raimi can and has made amazing movies but yeah we will see how they turn out.
Like they always say: it's nearly impossible to write a character who's smarter than you are.
Best commercial i have seen in a Decade.
Content creation at it´s finest!
Oh gosh, these Avengers scenes are so superb, it’s almost painful. I think I’ll rewatch Avengers for the thousand time and forget about this fkn 4th phase.
More of this, please. This was great
most excellent on the break down. the quality of the first mvoie versus the tv show and new release are SO different!
This deserves to be in the playlist. You're here to raise the game.
I just want to take a moment to say. This is the same Loki that went on to become a fool with in two minutes of his capture in Avengers. Carry on.
It's still a laugh that people call efap crew just haters.
They critique, and here is an example of what they like to see.
WHAT a masterpiece! Thanks, Mr. Longman
two videos today? what a treat
It still only counts as one!
Oh, thanks for reminding me your Father review. The one and only damn review of a movie ever that made me weep. Thanks for opening again that wound on my soul and dignity
I love this video. Please consider turning great-scene-analyses into a series.
This was the Loki I was EXPECTING in the Loki series when the first episode came out
The past younger Loki who was still in an insane mindset and just in the midst of losing to the Avengers??? OH BOY, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN?!
While I did like that he saw himself being painfully killed by Thanos, almost his former BOSS that he could've failed to and possibly had dire consequences brought onto him, Loki did feel less like himself and more like his Ragnarok self, yet even less than that as well
His Ragnarok self was good and it made sense in terms of time going by as well as his and Thor's relationship growing throughout that movie and the previous Thor movie. But in Loki its just "oh he WAS insane, but now hes not and hes powerless"
What kind of bs is that???
I would like to note that Mephisto himself considers Loki as being "almost his equal in sheer, base villainy." This compliment is not an isolated incident.
But guards with sticks that’s a different story.
Once again another masterful dissection.
Having two top notch MauLer breakdowns in the same day warms my cold dead heart.
Love this channel
Crazy how I haven't seen this video up until now
Superb video Mauler
Very good work as always
I can listen to you all day .
This is what happens, when you hire writers not based on skill but certain other factors.
"THIS is Natasha Romanoff." - Gee I wonder if they'll make a Black Widow + Hawkeye movie to do the characters justice?
very very nice video and excellent comparison! keep up the good work
Awesome vid as always and love the plushies gonna go great to watch EFAP with them by my side. Keep being great as always.
This, and the "Black Widow: An Unbridled Catastrophe" breakdown, made me want to watch The Avengers again (which I've seen in its entirety at least twice, and 75% of it probably half a dozen times). They also made me want to watch Black Widow again, so unfortunately, I keep re-watching movies with bad writing after watching your videos. :P
i feel like this deserved a spot on the main channel. thats how great and unique it is
You're very good at this Mr Mauler
we need more critics like you, you dont hold back when pointing out stuff from the movies that are coming out nowadays
Scoooore. So happy I saw this video soon enough to get a plushie.
This was great. Definitely makes up for the otherwise derth of content we've been getting on the main channel. Can't wait to watch TFA Part 4 next year.
Mauler fans are being well fed today :')
I think the scene could've been improved if she kicked Loki in the balls and then slammed her face into a desk.
Into the glass. And then she perks up from this faceplant and exclaimed "Banner! That's your plan!"
Fantastic video. I actually prefer this format. I may be in a minority on this, but I think you might be better off doing a (more) steady stream of this sort of content than the much longer ones (Not that that's a **wrong** way of doing it, of course. You do you.). Although it's not simply the length that has me more appreciative of this video. I enjoy it a lot more for its praise-focused juxtaposition and reminding/explaining the audience of what was good about the MCU. That's what I'd like to see more of. (I'd love to see you do a "One Marvellous Scene" for *Captain America: The First Avenger* and *Iron Man*, in particular, personally. More *The Avengers* scenes would also be nice.)
It'd also be interesting to see you focus in on a good scene in an otherwise bad work, discuss its potential and how it could have been great, and then shoot off the crippling references that squandered that potential.
This scene was so brain dead I honestly didn't realize she was trying to manipulate him. I thought they were just having an awkwardly written dialogue.
Legit though she was morally grandstanding on him until the "thank you for your cooperation" bullshit. Instead, she basically banked on Drakov having the aptitude of No Bullshit and Quinton in terms of logic and reasoning.
*The same Drakov behind the Black fucking Widows.*
So brilliantly put longman
See, it's stuff like this that makes me wish there was less... static... between Avengers and End Game. I hadn't Avengers in almost a decade when watching End Game, and I'll admit I was wondering "wait... do these two "love" each other"? But just that one scene conveys way more than most of the movies in between. It kind of sucks that they just abandoned those characters until End Game.