From another comment that brought up humanity percentage. They arounded 4.5% or less of the world would survive. The percentage mainly being those that see themselves as lbgt. If that helps for the insanity we are lost in. Odd ramble over. Sorry...
_Any normal version of Kate in the multiverse:_ They think Batwoman is straight? This is great! That means Kate Kane can be a Lesbian in her real life and fewer people will suspect I’m also Batwoman while they think she is with Captain America. It’ll make keeping my identity a secret that much easier, while also allowing me to be openly gay as Kate! This is the best thing that could have happened to Batwoman! _The cursed timeline we’re stuck with:_ *RRRREEEEEEEEEEE!!! THOSE TOXIC INCELS THINK I WOULD TOUCH A MAN??? JUST TO SHOW HOW WRONG THEY ARE, I’LL MAKE IT CLEAR BATWOMAN AND KATE ARE BOTH LESBIANS AND POSE FOR A PHOTO SHOOT WHERE MY ENEMIES WILL BE ABLE TO STUDY MY FACE IN MUCH GREATER DETAIL THEN THEY WOULD IF I JUST STAYED IN THE SHADOWS! I AM THE SMARTEST BESTEST HERO EVER!!!*
"If I had been represented by my favorite tv show charscter, I wouldn't need to put dozens/hundreds of innocent lives in danger!" We are supposed to root for these psychopathic degenerates.
“I have a trait that few others have, so I’m just killing everyone else who isn’t like me.” God... Imagine showing this character to young, impressionable viewers.
@@charmandyorton006 Perfect case for _no_ representation at all. Keep in mind that this was their chance to represent... and they show this. If this is the alternative, yeah, I would rather have my local priest proof-read these scripts before being approved.
Girl: 450 counts of attempted manslaughter (at best), potentially millions of counts of extortion, and hijacking of public property (the train). Batwoman: "Oh you're gay? That's fine then."
This is the kind of cringe nonsense that Tumblr Twats and Uni Students think is 'good writing", because these people think demographics are personality traits. 'You are super gay? *gasp* omagosh, so am I! That means we are exactly the same! Riveting... 'Representation" bollocks is cancer. ^.-.^
Especially that Rachel Meadow bit at the end. “We don’t want politics in our super heroes.” It’s like the out of touch echo chamber writing when shows try to do anything bashing not progressives. Like they try to write how they think opposition would sound, but are so out of touch they just write what they heard they say completely not understanding the context or meaning behind it, making it painfully apparent how intrenched they are in their own views and echo chambers.
Hey this is what they want it and they wanted the attention so they got it now. Gay and politics everywhere xD I fucking hate my generation, glad I at least got to experience the early 2000s when shows and cartoons were good in the West.
Deverer yeah basically establishing that if you don’t pander to the emotions of gay people then they will have no choice but to hurt innocent lives. Honestly, all this episode succeeds in doing is incessantly demonizing homosexuals as badly as the Westboro Baptist Church does
@@zachgilbert3815 Crow Goon: "I brought you a shot that can give you a healing factor sir. It was foretold to me by the spider oracle that you would be needing it."
So Batwoman is a lesbian trained fighter with lots of money and a close relationship to the Crows (all publicly-known information)? That narrows the list to like, 1 person.
@Templar Knight I'm sure the writer claimed it was "personal experience " but considering how many times I've heard people tell "their stories" only for hard evidence to come out that, not only disproves their claims, but shows that THEY are the instigators, I'm inclined to disbelieve these people. I have seen more videos of gay people spitting, hitting, and kicking out supposedly "bigoted" people than I have EVER seen bigots actually discriminating against gays. You'd think it would be easy to find people lashing out at gays but you need to work full time for months to rack up a sizable list of bigots hurting gays. The most famous example, of course, is Jussie Smollet, a gay black man, needing to actually PAY 2 men to beat him up because nobody gives a shit about his personal life. Seriously, most I've ever heard from devout Christians is "that's gross" in regards to being gay or "that's sin". Gross is what I heard more often. Nobody I ever met sought out to, even secretly, hurt gay people. TL;DR This show is bullshit and the writers are jokes.
@Templar Knight Ikr, there's people on Reddit or some shit who apparently dedicate their life to conspiracies. But fuck that when you can be the big gei
"keep politics out of our superheroes" I love that in the episode where they beat the audience over the head with their insane politics, they also insult the people who want them to stop beating people over the head with their insane politics
@@franciscoercoreca9081 It's been a meme for a while now. Like OP said, people are tired of having their heads beaten in with shitty politics and ask that it be kept out of games (or any media). This is simplified to "Keep politics out of games" which the other side latches onto and mocks. Stating that there's always inherent politics in any creative work. They compare the likes of Bioshock to Overwatch. "You liked it then, see? SEE?" Where Bioshock was a wholly realized setting on a possible outcome of a mostly libertarian ancap society and the pros and cons of it; Overwatch just has some gay characters for the sake of being gay in a game where no one fucks. A good foil to this is Undertale. If you choose to view it through a political lens it has a clear liberal bias, but the game is much beloved by many people, some in spite of their political leanings. Something that is well-executed and thought out will get people to pay attention and respect it regardless of politics. We could have a budget network show about a gay Batwoman that is phenomenal. The premise is not unsound. However the people getting hired to write this shit don't know how and have a chip on their shoulder formed by liberal guilt that they have to share with everyone.
whats telling is they probably lump efap in as racists but there response wasnt "ew politics" it was "being gay isnt political" they just cant grasp people actually accepting something so fundamentally that they dont feel the need to use it as an issue to pillory people who annoy or inconvenience them. they for some reason actually think a character being gay is the issue rather than their writing.
Alfred: "Master Bruce, it appears some people are suggesting Batman has feelings for that police officer who assisted you last night." Batman: *Disinterested grunt* "I've been running scans with the bat computer to figure out what caused the train to malfunction." Because he'd give precisely 0 shits. At Most, he'd find it useful for making people not realise he's the Playboy Bruce Wayne.
EFAP: We can’t wait to get back to the relative sanity of Batwoman. BatWahmen: _Oh, I’m afraid it is_ *you* _who are mistaken; about a great many things._
T. Thomas true but they are also likely to have batwoman burn the American constitution in a episode. Or go back in time and kill Washington because he owed slaves.
@@tylerghersinich576 Or worse, they go back in time and Washington’s sister is actually the reason America won. Washington covered that up in the future so he could become president and keep the wahmen down.
>How being a lesbian a political I think this show actually made a good example how. "I would support you/let you go just because you are a lesbian". Identity politics and shit.
Rin's little sheepling it’s ironic, they are so obsessed with identity politics, that they think being gay/lesbian is inherently politic. Even though it’s not necessarily political, meaning the show is unintentionally forcing homosexuality into being political, with the misleading statement about “politics in heroes.” There’s a certain word for that, but essentially it’s cart leading the horse so horse can say the cart was always leading the horse or something.
The person who said it was political was a bad guy right wing news person. But if I had to guess, the writers also think it's a political statement to be gay.
Teens in Somalia: "The drought, famine and political corruption here is so bad me and my family must risk our lives by stealing from others" Teens in Afghanistan: "My parents were both killed in a drone strike last week now I have to care for my 7 siblings and both grandparents even though Im only 13" Teens in Batwoman's Gotham: "Im not represented in my favorite television shows!!!!!!!" :'( :'( :'( Me: Seriously, fuck off
I think when folks in media are told they're disconnected they don't believe it or they don't care. Still a good way to put it, tho. That scene put me past cringe and into plain anger.
Such is the cost of having it so good in America. Many of these whiny little shits on Twitter should be forcibly dropped in a third world country for a month with nothing but the clothes on their backs and no access to social media. I promise you they wouldn't last a week before they rushed to their nearest US embassy demanding to be sent back home upon realizing just how privileged they are to have no real problems.
"Crowdfund my escape". That feels like that was written by a boomer or something. "Crowdfund - that's a modern interwebs term, wasn't in my day; let's put it into this dialogue. I'm sure it will sound right in practice."
@@CRIMI0N "I hear it's something they do on the world wide web." "Oh. Um, tell the foley guys to make sure to put in one of those modem dialtones, let's get this right."
I'm pretty sure when in the credits it says "Based on characters created by Bob Kane and Bill Finger" that none of the characters in the actual show were created by those two gents. I'm sure they'd be spinning in their grave if they saw what the Crisis did to Bruce. What a bunch of tisms you are CW
Wow, it sure is lucky that Batwoman's high school is the only one to use that certain bell sound. I know my elementary, junior high, and high school used the same bell sound much like most schools in my area did. Which was coincidentally the same sound that came out of my grandfather clock at home. She's just so gosh darn lucky.
Not to mention that she was lucky enough that the person she was looking for was at the dance she crashed. An occasion that isn't mandatory and probably wouldn't have every student in attendance. Also that there happened to be a dance going on during this specific time in general. Aaaaaannndd the fact that it was even a student at all and not just some random faculty member considering the female voice doesn't necessarily guarantee what age bracket the person falls into.
The motorcycle should've been ripped in half, assuming the grappling hooks, the wires, or the things the grappling hooks attach to didn't give way first. Assuming that everything is made of bullshitium, and the train truly did stop like that, everyone inside would be fucking dead. At the very least, Batwoman would've been murdered, along with every other schmuck in scene, by the grappling hook whipping through the air and cheese wiring through everything. Multiple people were paid to write and make this. Where can I get a job like this?
Outsource I don’t want to have Batwoman anywhere near my resume. CW execs may give me a fat paycheck, but they will never take my dignity in exchange for it.
Well, if you want to get away with crime in Gotham, just tell Batwoman that you''re gay with gay-hating parents. Trust me, it'll work. you don't even have to be related to KK. Good grief.
Opening scene, all those people are dead. You know why cars have airbags in addition to seat belts? The seat belt keeps you from flying out of the car when it suddenly stops, the airbag keeps your body from going from 60 to 0 in an instant and instead puts that deceleration over the course of a few seconds. As it turns out, sudden stops from high speeds are very bad for organic beings who's organs can shift around slightly. Not to mention everyone in the train would have gone flying since none of them were secured to anything.
@@samhouston9162 The next one tones the gay back plenty. Instead replacing it with "Well we used our Beth clone for the very specific purpose we had her in for, now kill her off before we can use her to help fully realise any of our bland existing characters and go back to square one"
Hate Mongering Verbal Terrorist of the Toxic Brood it’s more important than hundred of innocent lives, apparently. Imagine if there were children on board the train. How would she justify her actions then, if she ever could already?!
Marine: "Sir, we found Bin Laden. We got a problem?" Command: "What is it?" Marine: "He's gay. He said he was outed. He just did 9/11 to divert his parents from this. It was just a prank." Command: "OMG. This changes everything. He definitely is worse of than all the next-of-kin from that attack." Marine: "What should we do?" Command: "Give him some hours communial work, we'll tell the world we killed him to get his parents of his back. So he can be proper gay."
The "how dare people think the guy who saved me and I look good together, I'm super duper gay" plot point might just be the most cringeworthy thing ever.
Hey anyone remember that law and order episode where a guy tried to kill himself by parking in front of a incoming train. Injuring over a 100 people (think the exact number was 123) and also resulting in 12 deaths. Yeah, you wanna know what happened? He got charged with murder and attempted murder and was sentenced to life in prison. This teenage girl who tried to kill 100s of people only gets community service (and whines about it). My head hurts from hard I facepalmed at this plot.
That episode was based on a real event, too. In 2005, a guy parked his SUV on railroad tracks in Glendale, California, but changed his mind at the last minute and abandoned the car. 177 people were wounded and 11 killed. He wasn't sentenced to life in prison, though...he was sentenced to _eleven_ consecutive life sentences with no possibility of parole after being convinced of 11 counts of first-degree murder.
"I bet you the plot is that he's a fake hero cop, and he's setting things up to make himself look good." -Fringy, shortly before learning that the 'Batwoman' writing team never disappoints to disappoint.
@@somerandomguyfromthebeyond1821 Scroll through the recent-ish comments. Then keep scrolling, because YT seems to like burying my multi-part comments. Ctrl+F for either my name or the phrase 'Storytelling 101' and you'll see what I have to say about this episode.
Professor guy: "Someone making a skin mask to look like Jacob? Pfft, yeah right. That's science fiction." Luke 5 minutes ago: "The trains are hack proof ever since the man who dresses up like a scarecrow and gives people super vivid hallucinations of their worst fears hacked them."
Yeah, did the writers forget what comic book they were adapting? Hell, they could have claimed it was Clayface and it would have been cause for reasonable doubt.
Didn't they also catch Alice on live video stealing skin from a morgue? I forget if that was just Wayne Bat footage or GCPD also knew about it. But considering Alice has a motive to frame Jacob Kane (even if they don't know she's his daughter she has an expressed grudge against the Crows and the Law), wouldn't this also ascribe a motive that bizarre action?
I like how Mary is being portrayed as unreasonable...but she is right. Its not even about keeping Alice from being killed. She actively allowed her to avoid capture.
Also, out of all the people Alice killed, it took her putting the life of a gay girl at risk to know Alice was beyond saving. What does that say about here character? That she only cares about your life if you have the same sexual orientation as her.
I like how they establish that Kate no longer wants to save Alice, if not being willing to kill her herself, and yet she will escape capture and injury multiple additional times after this point. Kate pins her to a machine when a Bomb goes off in the school? Alice is out without even dust in her hair. Later episode has her choosing between saving Alice or Beth? She just waits for delete-tisms instead of slitting her throat or putting the psychopath down herself (and neither does Mary do anything for that matter after hand cuffing her), then Alice escapes being handcuffed to a bed just because she knocked Kate out apparently. It's not even just writing stupid behaviors, the characters aren't even consistent in them.
“Aspiring to be represented by an ancillary character in my favorite TV show” I love the cast’s responses to this, because what they say and how they say it truly emphasizes how blunt this is. This is “holy shit that’s a lotta whiplash” levels of blunt. A nightstick is extremely sharp compared to that message, holy god.
I like beans. I thought I was hallucinating when I heard this because no one writes actual scenes like this outside of comedies (and really trash comedies, at that)
I still haven't gotten past the train part guys. It goes against everything I have learned about the universe and the laws of physics and my head hurts
Ignoring the obvious fact that everyone on that train would be 1000% dead, didn't Luke say in Episode 1 that those grappling hooks have a 1 ton tolerance? Tell me, how much does a train weigh?
Wil Oh my god you’re right! And when the cable broke on Kate’s mom’s car that was the catalyst for the all the show’s events! But when Batwoman does it, it works perfect.
I love how the show attempts to manufacture Kate's dilemma and morals, but the writing never shows it. Kate is too one dimensional to have any moral conflicts. She never feels or shows remorse for letting Alice go and she doesn't care about the consequences her decisions have. Kate only "helps" people out of validation or when she's projecting her personal issues onto that particular person. Parker is a great example, a psychopathic brat who nearly murdered dozens of innocent people. But since she's gay, Kate gives her a second chance. I understand the writers want to make Kate into a brooding anti-hero like Batman, but even Batman had an emotional depth to him. Batman was human and he had established morals and standards. Bruce had a REASON to become Batman because of his tragic past. Kate didn't become Batwoman out of a desire for justice, but out of spite. Kate is not selfless, she murdered Batman with no remorse, she's not compassionate to those unfortunate, she is definitely not heroic. Kate is more fixated on the public thinking her SECRET identity is straight, rather than the protecting the city
Ironically they do more superhero work than Kate does. I remember in one episode where she got all pissy at them despite never doing any detective work herself. All she cares about is screwing the next woman she sees whilst her black abused manservant picks up the pieces. Progressive show my ass.
“A man who can make himself look exactly like other man, that’s science fiction”... how does a professor with links to the Gotham legal system not know about CLAY FACE and automatically realize this is very much not science fiction
"I'm very, very gay" So... there are grades of gay? Is there like a toggle switch of gay? Maybe the problem is that she isn't very, very, *super* gay? Also, is it possible to be very, very straight? Are there flaming straights? Do any of the writers even have a sexuality to speak of?
I would love if mid-series Luthor finds a bunch of pages stable on to the book of destiny that is what keeping Batwoman so fucking unlogical, and he justs rips it off and suddenly things are logical but Kate.
Spider-Man, Elastigirl and Batwoman hanging out at a bar. Spider-Man: "I once had this runaway-train. The brakes were destroyed and I had to stop it before it ran out of tracks." Elastigirl and Batwoman: "Hey, me too!" How did you do it?" Spider-Man: "I put myself at the front. After trying to slow it down with my foot, which didn't work, I connected my Spider-webs to all the surrounding buildings and pulled, slowing down the train with my sheer strength. It damaged several buildings and I fainted off exhaustion but I finally managed to stop the train." Elastigirl: "Amazing. I had to separate the two train-cars to slow it down and then turn myself into a parachute until it screeched to a halt. Was really hard. Barely made it." Spider-Man: "Cool. I guess stopping a speeding train ain't easy and takes a lot of effort. And how did you do it, Batwoman?" Batwoman: "Well, I just shoot a tiny hook into the backside of the train and attached it with my wire to the rail-tie. The train immediately stopped." Spider-Man and Elastigirl: "...."
Bruce cultivates his playboy lifestyle as a cover for Batman. Bruce is out all night partying and sleeps all day has so many girlfriends that they just kinda blend together. Kate on the other hand is too thin skinned to ever contemplate creating a second persona.
"Why didn't you sing everything is SUPER when you're GAAAAAAAAAAAY" Also: what are the odds that Other-Alice is actually here to introduce the concept of Hypertime to the CW-DCverse? Because we've been-there-done-that with the multiverse, and we all know how the producers love to show off their "extensive knowledge" of DC lore.
@@capttinklebutt3837 Honestly, I can't tell if it's a spoiler or sarcastic speculation given how insane and nonsensical the story direction is in this show
This show must have been written by Harley Quinn. Really think about it: She’s CRAZIER than the Joker... And as of Birds of Prey, she’s more woke and less entertaining.
Praise the Don and pass the ammunition, we’re back to Batwoman and it’s time for STORYTELLING 101 Episode 7, and this…this one’s a real doozy. I keep saying that Batwoman finds a new way to be fascinatingly bad with each new episode, and it _keeps_ _doing_ _it_ ! For this episode, we’re going to look at something that’s been basically completely ignored for the entire show: the necessary sacrifices of a secret identity. THE SETUP: Some of the most interesting parts of ‘Batman’ media involve the separation between the paired identities of Batman and Bruce Wayne. There’s a level of near-constant strain on Bruce to maintain this, and the result is that he’s forced to wear a mask even when he isn’t in costume. ‘Batwoman’ has had basically none of that, but since this episode focuses on public perception and how the rumor mill influences Kate, we can change that. Or rather, we _could_ have changed it if the hypothetical HACK or LAZY HACK writers were working on this show, but instead we got the BATWOMAN WRITER. THE HACK APPROACH: Kate is upset that people are shipping Batwoman with photogenic police officer after he _saved_ _her_ _ungrateful_ _bitch_ _life_ in the field. Apparently this is a problem, and Kate doesn’t want a filthy hetero to get credit for a lesbonio’s work. She says something to this effect to Luke, and because Luke actually has a spine in this continuity he has some rather choice things to say. ‘Kate Kane’ is, for goodness knows what reason, seen as a pillar of the community. She’s rich as hell and part of her very character description is that she is constantly saying whatever she’s thinking. As Batwoman, she’s (also for goodness knows what reason) adored by the public and has radio pundits acting like hypebeasts on her behalf. Luke points this out…and the pulls up some old tabloid stories about Bruce Wayne. For all the good he did with his wealth, ‘Bruce Wayne’ did not have a very good public perception. He was seen as a philandering, irresponsible playboy, and Bruce not only allowed this image to persist, but he actively fed it. It not only afforded him the opportunity to go Batman-ing whenever he needed to, but it also made it that much harder to link him to Batman. After all, how could a man like _Bruce_ _Wayne_ be the selfless, tireless defender of Gotham? And, as Luke explains, _Bruce_ _did_ _not_ _enjoy_ _this_ . He had virtually no meaningful relationships as Bruce Wayne because the number of people that truly knew him could be counted on both hands with fingers to spare. Women in his life are inevitably perceived by the public as the latest in a long line of ‘Wayne girls’ (which is an actual tabloid term in the comics), and he can’t let any relationships grow beyond a certain point because it would require letting them see past his mask. Meanwhile, we have Kate, who is fussing about how Batwoman is being shipped with a man, and then acts like she has some kind of moral duty to make sure that the public doesn’t assume she’s heterosexual (as if knowing a superhero’s orientation has stopped shippers before). This is some of the pettiest nonsense imaginable, and Luke should be able to see that better than anyone. Hell, why not mention the cop that Kate seems to insist on never referring to by name? Give him some actual detail. Have Luke pull up his police file on the computer. Maybe he’s married. Hell, maybe he’s got a kid, too. Lots of cops have families to go home to. He sure as hell doesn’t have a secret identity. Did Kate even stop to consider what being thrust into the spotlight might mean for him? Anyway, the endpoint of this arc would be Kate realizing that there’s a limit to how much of herself she can express as Batwoman. If we absolutely_have_ to keep this trainwreck (ha!) of a villain motivated by being the gay, then maybe during the confrontation with Batwoman there’s no unmasking or confession of also being gay. Maybe- -oh! That works: the only change would be to remove any involvement with the runaway train. It’s just a runaway train. Why not just _start_ the girl’s crimes at the ‘Give me money or I leak all your personal information’ thing? She was already on the train to witness Batwoman and PhotogenicCop ‘together,’ so just have that be what pushed her to more extreme action (but ultimately nonviolent action). So then when she’s caught, maybe Alice still does her bomb-tism thing to threaten Kate, but the girl uses her still-functional superphone to disable them. Then when she’s still turned in afterward, it’s stated that she got a really favorable plea deal for nothing aside from community service in recognition for the role she played in saving her classmates, and because what she did wasn’t _that_ severe anyway. Then I guess Kate (as Kate, not Batwoman) can contrive a reason for being on-site during some of that community service, strike up a conversation, and learn that her home life has improved because their daughter’s near-death experience at the hands of a serial killer made her parents realize that they care more about their daughter’s wellbeing than they do about what kinds of genitals she likes. BUT, and this is important, Kate still doesn’t create any connection between herself and Batwoman in this conversation. She doesn’t leak any extra info, she doesn’t give any winks or nods…she just talks to the girl as Kate Kane, and she reflects in the inevitable narration that this is enough (for reasons I’ll go over shortly). And there’s no dumb fucking ‘Lookit me Imma lesbonio!’ magazine article. THE LAZY HACK: Honestly, this is one of the times when the Hack and the Lazy Hack are pretty much in alignment. There isn’t much to cut out of laziness. The main things to retain would be: -Erase the girl’s involvement in the runaway train (outside of physically being on it) and reduce the scale of her crimes to ‘gib money so I can run away or get doxed,’ so she gets nothing but a slap on the wrist after she helps save her classmates -Have Luke talk to Kate about the separation between Bruce Wayne and Batman as a result of Kate’s fit about the most childish of things -Have Kate reveal no additional information about Batwoman to the girl, or anyone public, and talks to the girl as Kate Kane to give a thinly-veiled ‘It gets better’ message (which she can give without needing the girl to tell her she’s a lesbian). Oh, and I guess as an extra point for both this and the Hack approach, don’t have Alice physically confront Kate in the climax. She just, I dunno, calls her about the bombs. The last time we saw Kate, she was fighting dementors and GreatValueThanos for the fate of the multiverse. Now is not the time to have her losing physical confrontations with Alice. And, as before, THERE’S NO DUMB FUCKING ‘LOOKIT ME IMMA LESBONIO!’ MAGAZINE ARTICLE. But we didn’t get either of those, now did we? What we got was…
THE BATWOMAN WRITER: The reason it took me so long to work on this (I’ve been workshopping it since Crisis 5/5) was because there is just so much wrong with this episode that could warrant the Storytelling 101 treatment. It’s like this episode was written by a _team_ of Batwoman Writers. As if the writers saw criticism of the awful grappling-hook physics in old episodes and said ‘Oh you think that was stupid, hold my tism and watch this!’ we get the subway nonsense. They couldn’t even be arsed to do the classic ‘grappling hook grabs onto things and has to slow the train down over time’ thing. They just had it stop the entire train about a meter from the end of the line. Have…have they ever been on a train before when it suddenly stops? Or in a car? Or even just _in_ _motion_ ?! And the entire shipping thing subplot? Just…how? How are we supposed to take Kate seriously when she acts like it’s such a big deal? Even by CW standards, this is dumb. Years back, ‘Supernatural’ had an in-universe shipping thing with its two protagonists. First and foremost, it was used for a joke and then pretty much left behind, because of course it was. Second, the reason it squicked them out so much was because the two protagonists are _brothers_ . They didn’t even bother mentioning that they were heterosexual, because why would that matter? What mattered is that they were creeped out by people fantasizing about them being involved despite being siblings. But, other than the occasional callback, it was kept as a joke. But Kate? She’s _pissed_ off at this because she hates the idea of being seen as heterosexual. Why isn’t this just a one-off joke where she’s creeped out by people shipping Batwoman with Alice? Or hell, with Batman? And for the latter, she wouldn’t even mention that she only likes girls. The obvious problems would be A) he’s her cousin B) he’s basically her parents’ age and C) she recently made an alternate dimension version of him Kentucky Fried, so that’s probably going to mess with any interactions she has with RealBruce. Alice shows up, and…oh, come on! We’ve seen Batwoman get up a few seconds after being hit by A TRUCK! She just finished fighting hordes of demonghosts and GreatValueThanos! Her suit is apparently so potent that Batman invented a special gun to murder anyone who stole it. She has taser-fists that should solve 95% of all confrontations, and 100% of the ones with Alice. How is she still losing fights to this untrained maniac, much less getting knocked out by a brass instrument? And the magazine. Oh, the _FUCKING_ magazine. I’ve mentioned in my ‘Crisis’ posts that, from here on out, the show is going to be riddled with ‘You have Supergirl and the Flash on speedial. Why aren’t you calling for help?’ moments, but…I never once thought that it would be _this_ level of stupid. She _does_ call Supergirl for help, but it’s for help announcing that she’s a lesbian?! What?!? Why would…how does that even work? Who took that cover photo? What did Kara tell her editor? What the hell is comprising all that text? Did Kate basically just tell her entire life’s story and think that some name changes would be enough to protect her identity? And- -wait, hang on. One of the previous episodes’ plots revolved around convincing Sophie that she was wrong to think Kate and Batwoman were the same person. Am I remembering that correctly? Because if so, the writers sure weren’t, because now there’s a big ‘ole gossy 8x10 of ‘Obviously Kate Kane’ in the batsuit putting out _a_ _literal_ _press_ _release_ because she couldn’t bear the thought of the public thinking she was a non-lesbian! I thought my expectations for this show had hit rock bottom, but apparently I need to bring a jackhammer just to keep up with this show’s cascading failures. But that’s the hallmark of the ‘Batwoman Writer,’ isn’t it? It never disappoints to disappoint.
I heard an honest-to-goodness radio ad for it, and I lost it at the sound of Jacob(?) declaring "Let's find this blood-guzzling serial kiler before Batwoman!"
@@electricbayonet2 Yeah in that episode Jacob is freed (we don't see the trial, because interesting things are evil I guess) and wants to show the Crows are better than Batwoman. So he's back at square one of his development for the season. Great stuff!
@@LeHobbitFan "Yeah in that episode Jacob is freed (we don't see the trial, because interesting things are evil I guess)" Bizarrely? This is one of the few times when shit _could_ have _almost_ been explained away by the events of Crisis on Infinite Tisms...if the writers were merely hacks instead of 'Batwoman writers.' Before now, we never saw any on-screen superpowers, so we could have at least pretended that this was an Earth that didn't have superpowers or whatever so the stuff Skinman did _would_ sound implausible, but after the fusion of Earths retroactively made superheroes a proper thing the case would be thrown out almost immediately because of how much evidence there was of Real!Jacob being elsewhere when Fake!Jacob was doing crimes. I say 'could have almost,' however, because the writers just couldn't help but mention _fucking_ _Wonder_ _Woman_ two episodes into this disaster, so the notion of a guy that can make lifelike masks from skin being considered impossible is baffling in a world that has _actual_ _people_ _with_ _far_ _more_ _fantastic_ _superpowers_ .
"why didnt you say you were super gay?" an appropriate heroes response "Because being gay is not what makes me a hero, just how being gay does not make you a villain, it is our actions" BATWOMAN "because I want to monopolise on how to tell people"
"Just because you are pretending to be Batman does not mean you automatically get all his abilities" You just stated the whole case against the "T"s!!!
Just to put it out there: That's not how EMP works! It is basically an electromagnetic impulse, that generates a static current in the wires that fries the electronics. It's like cooking your iPhone in the microwave oven. Your electronics are either protected against it or not. There is no 10 second rule! And in case your device is protected, it means it uses a Faraday cage, so there can't be any signal or magnetic field around it that Batwoman's special glasses could see! Did they f*ck up physics when they remade the universe in the Infinite Earth side quest?
This is the same place that had bullets going the same speed when underwater or the first part of this episode literally disobeying laws of physics and logic entirely.
Real-world concerned people: "I get that you're gay and I don't care. I mean, indifference is the ultimate acceptance. But having these raunchy gay pride parades and just shoehorning gay characters and themes into various media, as well as championing very obnoxious and downright mean-spirited activism has me suspect that it's not really you being gay that you're so proud of. I think it's just yourself that you're so proud of and you're using your sexuality to mask and provide social sanction for your insufferable narcissism. Gay activist: "That's not true at all. You're homophobic!" Batwoman writers: "I almost killed myself and a train full of people so that my parents would accept me being gay." Is this awful writing? Yes. Yet, does it precisely characterize the sort of motivation that informs this sort of in your face activism that Batwoman is based on? Absolutely. Thus I submit to you that this lesbian hacker character represents a Freudian Slip of sorts, giving a glimpse of the true motivations and sympathies of the writers.
I mean what kind of tinsel strength is required from riveted handle hookCablefastnerMotorcyclefastnerCableHookwooden railroad tie... I cant even...... The dirt and wood where it hooked into the ground weren't even DISTURBED. I can even........ The handle door on the back of the train had to be as strong as the rest. All the individual couplers between cars.... People would have been sailing through glass... Someone got paid money to film that. Someone got paid to write that.
I mean, the cable wouldn't be taut enough to still be ripped out and come flying at her head either after the train was stopped. The demands of the plot are beyond your physics.
The girl claimed she was planning to stop the train herself but batwoman did it before she could. Which, rewatching that scene... HOW? It was already stopped at the last possible moment and the writers had to switch physics off even for that to succeed!
16:22 :This was pointed out by a commenter on JLongborne's video, but this universe has Clayface who was known to change into other people AND was a part of Batman's rogue gallery. How can the idea of a skin mask be science fiction?
No better question they have dudes not only like clay face but poison ivy, fucking killer croc, bane, Man Bat and others that defy normal logic. Yet switching faces is IMPOSSIBLE
Its like a running joke dude. DC references marvel. And vice versa. As if one or the other is fake. DC is real and marvel is fake with comics and shit. Thats what they r saying anyway.
@chaoszieg Didn't Flash reference Batman as well? They lured out a villain with a Flash Symbol, Cisco says that he read it in a comic while still also having Batman around in his universe.
Dr. Who at least acknowledged that because you're a time traveler, it effects you in a way that it was as if you were outside of time. As a result, you remember things others didn't and you don't immediately gain the memories of the changed timeline. I'm going to imagine nothing is going to be explained here.
Oh great! Another Mary Sue protagonist in another poorly written, hackfraud woke identity politic drama wearing the skin of a really popular IP in the entertainment industry
11:59 If there's no expiry date and security code, the credit card number alone is kinda useless; plus given how far the hacker broadcast their message, could someone notify the credit card company to cancel/suspend the card?
I can't get over the fact that they had a character say that "Perfectly impersonating another man is science-fiction". A character who lives in Gotham. Where Clayface lives.
When your side-character (Mary) is actually going through a more substantial character arc than all the other characters in your show combined, there's an issue.
Firewalls are security devices that analyze, monitor, and filter data packets coming to and from your network. The keyword being DATA. Unless electromagnetic pulses are delt in the form of digital data, no firewall would protect your device. This is such nonsense.
Being able to hack every screen everywhere is comically impossible. Most screens in public places are intentionally not connected to the internet, let alone all the different software in place, security software and the sheer volume of processing power to stream to a million devices live etc.
5:20 It’s so painful to look at this scene. A mere lesbian with motorbike can stop a high speed train with a twink grappling hook while Spiderman a superhuman used 20 webs, tore his suit, and surface buildings to stop the train
At this point I'm convinced that the writers of the show hate working on it so much that they're purposefully putting in the most batshit insane and offensively bad plot points possible in order to tank the ratings and get it cancelled sooner.
Alice wanting to repair her family makes me think they watched the Doctor Who where Missy told the Doctor that this was all to get their friendship back. At that point - it was 44 years of building across many good writers (and before the current era of sucky writers). On Batwoman - no buildup at all
Dying is the easy part. Being gay, that's the hard part.
Depends on who's recieving
"To be gay, to walk this earth. That's the true curse."
This episode couldn't be anymore anti-gay if they tried. That is so sad.
The boomers who clearly wrote these scripts know this is gonna cancel Pride month for the next decade. And honestly I ain't torn up about that. GG.
@@hoonterofhoonters6588 True story: Elizabeth Smart's dad, Ed, said coming out was harder than his own daughter getting kidnapped and raped.
Thanos: "I am inevitable"
Batwomen: "And I'm very very _GAY"_
100% of the universe's population dies.
From another comment that brought up humanity percentage. They arounded 4.5% or less of the world would survive. The percentage mainly being those that see themselves as lbgt. If that helps for the insanity we are lost in.
Odd ramble over. Sorry...
Lol top tier
She snaps her fingers and the entire universe turns gay
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be. -Spiffing Brit
What is a thanos?
_Any normal version of Kate in the multiverse:_ They think Batwoman is straight? This is great! That means Kate Kane can be a Lesbian in her real life and fewer people will suspect I’m also Batwoman while they think she is with Captain America. It’ll make keeping my identity a secret that much easier, while also allowing me to be openly gay as Kate! This is the best thing that could have happened to Batwoman!
_The cursed timeline we’re stuck with:_ *RRRREEEEEEEEEEE!!! THOSE TOXIC INCELS THINK I WOULD TOUCH A MAN??? JUST TO SHOW HOW WRONG THEY ARE, I’LL MAKE IT CLEAR BATWOMAN AND KATE ARE BOTH LESBIANS AND POSE FOR A PHOTO SHOOT WHERE MY ENEMIES WILL BE ABLE TO STUDY MY FACE IN MUCH GREATER DETAIL THEN THEY WOULD IF I JUST STAYED IN THE SHADOWS! I AM THE SMARTEST BESTEST HERO EVER!!!*
Do you type these out beforehand?
@@kordinyo7800
Fastest hand in the west.
@@kordinyo7800 King Edward "Longshanks" I, Hammer of the Scots, Lord of Wales and King of England is the fastest EFAPper in the west!
Same but without the E
@@kordinyo7800 chapter has been out for weeks, so it would make sense.
Unlike Batwoman.
Police: FREEZE, YOU'RE UNDER ARREST!
Criminal: I'm gay.
Police: Stand down, boys.
Honestly... what kind of message is that telling to the much younger audience. I mean, really?
The Kevin Spacey defense.
Yeah...
@@t.thomas8919
It's okay to commit crime as long as you're gay?
Oh, no, just wait... I don't wanna spoil anything, but coming up next episode... That's not how GCPD would act.
"This is the gay episode." -mauler
Silly Longman. Every episode is the gay episode.
Every episode is "The Gay"
Let it be the episode that was self aware compare to others. *shrugs*
Yeah but this one, this one has the beeg ghey.
EvilCoffee5 but this one is the gay episode to redefine the meaning of “gay episode”
But when everything is gay then no one is!!!
"If I had been represented by my favorite tv show charscter, I wouldn't need to put dozens/hundreds of innocent lives in danger!"
We are supposed to root for these psychopathic degenerates.
And all the Tumblr Twats clapped. ^.-.^
“I have a trait that few others have, so I’m just killing everyone else who isn’t like me.”
God...
Imagine showing this character to young, impressionable viewers.
@@charmandyorton006 Perfect case for _no_ representation at all.
Keep in mind that this was their chance to represent... and they show this.
If this is the alternative, yeah, I would rather have my local priest proof-read these scripts before being approved.
@@denkerbosu3551 False dichotomy. We can have shows without shitty, preachy characters without having our local Imams proof-read our scripts.
Ara Ara That’s not what he said, and priests are quite different from Imams.
Girl: 450 counts of attempted manslaughter (at best), potentially millions of counts of extortion, and hijacking of public property (the train).
Batwoman: "Oh you're gay? That's fine then."
A prosecutor would have a field day with that.
Batwoman: What do you want from me, I'm not a lawyer.
*Incomes Matt Murdock*
Murdock: But I am and *you* are in big trouble.
@@raymondyongho5757 Hehehe, this made me smile. Thank you :) .
Duh gey mafia ez reel.
@@raymondyongho5757 *Hitler barges in*
"What do you expect? I'm Hitler."
This show with how it handles all this LGBT stuff makes it unironically one of the most anti-LGBT shows out there.
This is the kind of cringe nonsense that Tumblr Twats and Uni Students think is 'good writing", because these people think demographics are personality traits.
'You are super gay? *gasp* omagosh, so am I! That means we are exactly the same!
Riveting...
'Representation" bollocks is cancer. ^.-.^
Watching all the LGBT talk in this episode has done nothing for me except make me even more straight
But not for these characters
Especially that Rachel Meadow bit at the end. “We don’t want politics in our super heroes.” It’s like the out of touch echo chamber writing when shows try to do anything bashing not progressives. Like they try to write how they think opposition would sound, but are so out of touch they just write what they heard they say completely not understanding the context or meaning behind it, making it painfully apparent how intrenched they are in their own views and echo chambers.
Hey this is what they want it and they wanted the attention so they got it now. Gay and politics everywhere xD I fucking hate my generation, glad I at least got to experience the early 2000s when shows and cartoons were good in the West.
Deverer yeah basically establishing that if you don’t pander to the emotions of gay people then they will have no choice but to hurt innocent lives. Honestly, all this episode succeeds in doing is incessantly demonizing homosexuals as badly as the Westboro Baptist Church does
Criminals of Gotham be like:
"They're gay now?"
"They're gay now!"
Now that's really super Gay...
Ahahahaha, I needed a laugh today, I knew EFAP of Batwoman and the comments would provide it.
JK Rowling joke: ....................... •_•
Congratulations on 666 party with the devil bitch level likes
"Why didn't you say you were super gay?"
This show is asking the real questions.
I had to do a double take when I heard that lmao, wtf is this writing 😂😂
you forgot the most important question!!!!
*WHHADDYCHA BRNG ME!?!?!?!*
@@zachgilbert3815 Crow Goon: "I brought you a shot that can give you a healing factor sir. It was foretold to me by the spider oracle that you would be needing it."
generic ign Batwoman: The show so confusing that it makes viewers do double-takes to something that they hear right in front of them.
All episodes. All first drafts. All the more reason to riff inti them. Sold.
My bois are back!
JLongbone The boys are back in town
Ey! Is the best Ewok! Gday madam LongBone! ^.-.^ *tips hat*
I love you all.
Hey hey, you guys should get together and do Watchmen. Someone needs to do it
JLongbone, you and these guys as well as many others make horrible media enjoyable.
So Batwoman is a lesbian trained fighter with lots of money and a close relationship to the Crows (all publicly-known information)? That narrows the list to like, 1 person.
@Templar Knight don't forget the fact that the motorcycle has the license plate uncovered while Batwoman drives it
but Kate Kane would never wear that ridiculous wig so it can't be her, right?
Not really considering everyone single fucking person in this universe seems to be gay.
@Templar Knight I'm sure the writer claimed it was "personal experience " but considering how many times I've heard people tell "their stories" only for hard evidence to come out that, not only disproves their claims, but shows that THEY are the instigators, I'm inclined to disbelieve these people.
I have seen more videos of gay people spitting, hitting, and kicking out supposedly "bigoted" people than I have EVER seen bigots actually discriminating against gays. You'd think it would be easy to find people lashing out at gays but you need to work full time for months to rack up a sizable list of bigots hurting gays.
The most famous example, of course, is Jussie Smollet, a gay black man, needing to actually PAY 2 men to beat him up because nobody gives a shit about his personal life.
Seriously, most I've ever heard from devout Christians is "that's gross" in regards to being gay or "that's sin". Gross is what I heard more often. Nobody I ever met sought out to, even secretly, hurt gay people.
TL;DR This show is bullshit and the writers are jokes.
@Templar Knight Ikr, there's people on Reddit or some shit who apparently dedicate their life to conspiracies. But fuck that when you can be the big gei
"keep politics out of our superheroes" I love that in the episode where they beat the audience over the head with their insane politics, they also insult the people who want them to stop beating people over the head with their insane politics
TheButterAnvil I’m sure they had that line to mock people that say that
@@franciscoercoreca9081 It's been a meme for a while now. Like OP said, people are tired of having their heads beaten in with shitty politics and ask that it be kept out of games (or any media). This is simplified to "Keep politics out of games" which the other side latches onto and mocks. Stating that there's always inherent politics in any creative work. They compare the likes of Bioshock to Overwatch. "You liked it then, see? SEE?" Where Bioshock was a wholly realized setting on a possible outcome of a mostly libertarian ancap society and the pros and cons of it; Overwatch just has some gay characters for the sake of being gay in a game where no one fucks.
A good foil to this is Undertale. If you choose to view it through a political lens it has a clear liberal bias, but the game is much beloved by many people, some in spite of their political leanings. Something that is well-executed and thought out will get people to pay attention and respect it regardless of politics. We could have a budget network show about a gay Batwoman that is phenomenal. The premise is not unsound. However the people getting hired to write this shit don't know how and have a chip on their shoulder formed by liberal guilt that they have to share with everyone.
...and they wonder why nobody is watching their crap show! XD
@Templar Knight ...but they're not even good writers second though. They aren't good writers at all. XD
whats telling is they probably lump efap in as racists but there response wasnt "ew politics" it was "being gay isnt political" they just cant grasp people actually accepting something so fundamentally that they dont feel the need to use it as an issue to pillory people who annoy or inconvenience them. they for some reason actually think a character being gay is the issue rather than their writing.
Can you imagine if Batman had his life saved by a man and his first reaction was:
OH NO THEY THINK I'M GAY NOW.
The Joker tried to force him into a boner!
*[pushes button]*
“Oh, I’m gay now.”
“Hmm.”
Robin: "Ehm, Batman... I must tell you something."
Alfred: "Master Bruce, it appears some people are suggesting Batman has feelings for that police officer who assisted you last night."
Batman: *Disinterested grunt* "I've been running scans with the bat computer to figure out what caused the train to malfunction."
Because he'd give precisely 0 shits.
At Most, he'd find it useful for making people not realise he's the Playboy Bruce Wayne.
@@calemr Well, with how much he and Catwoman kiss, they'd find out he's straight sooner or later.
"Palpatine, how are you alive???"
"I had a firewall"
This needs to be a meme 😂😂😂
@@Thomas20Smith
How about this one:
"It was Palpatine all along."
Ah yes, I need to get me one of those anti-reactor-explosion firewalls. Wouldn't have to worry about anything from grenades to nukes ever again
The only one I would let that slide. There is no true rage to this Queen.
Too bad he didn't have a lightning wall
EFAP: We can’t wait to get back to the relative sanity of Batwoman.
BatWahmen: _Oh, I’m afraid it is_ *you* _who are mistaken; about a great many things._
Underrated Palpy quote.
@The Bandog It's Ironic.
@The Bandog it's another Palpatism
Get ready for episode 11. It is only going to get dumber.
The big gay of the force is a pathway to many pardons in court SOME consider to be *bullshit*
I love how MauLer was the one who was the most offended by all the spilt tea
Sadly, Britain isn't what it used to be.
God save the Queen, we will never surrender
Where is that episode was pouring tea into the habor. Really go all out. Why not?
T. Thomas true but they are also likely to have batwoman burn the American constitution in a episode. Or go back in time and kill Washington because he owed slaves.
@@tylerghersinich576 Or worse, they go back in time and Washington’s sister is actually the reason America won. Washington covered that up in the future so he could become president and keep the wahmen down.
Doesn't take a hero to know what pure cringe looks like. This show is painful.
I can't wait for them to cover episode 11 it's going to get more retarded.
@@t.thomas8919 i'm afraid that this is a result of a lobotomy, not a drug...
So keep a barf bag close
>How being a lesbian a political
I think this show actually made a good example how. "I would support you/let you go just because you are a lesbian". Identity politics and shit.
Rin's little sheepling This episode really put the “politics” in “identity politics”
Rin's little sheepling it’s ironic, they are so obsessed with identity politics, that they think being gay/lesbian is inherently politic. Even though it’s not necessarily political, meaning the show is unintentionally forcing homosexuality into being political, with the misleading statement about “politics in heroes.” There’s a certain word for that, but essentially it’s cart leading the horse so horse can say the cart was always leading the horse or something.
The person who said it was political was a bad guy right wing news person. But if I had to guess, the writers also think it's a political statement to be gay.
"Political lesbians" are a 'real world' thing, where women who aren't attracted to women identify as lesbians to "SMASH THE PATRIARCHY!"
@@DrunkMonkGar669 I want to say that is unbelievably stupid but considering how stupid certain people are nowadays it is certainly believable.
Teens in Somalia: "The drought, famine and political corruption here is so bad me and my family must risk our lives by stealing from others"
Teens in Afghanistan: "My parents were both killed in a drone strike last week now I have to care for my 7 siblings and both grandparents even though Im only 13"
Teens in Batwoman's Gotham: "Im not represented in my favorite television shows!!!!!!!" :'( :'( :'(
Me: Seriously, fuck off
Agreed.
I think when folks in media are told they're disconnected they don't believe it or they don't care.
Still a good way to put it, tho. That scene put me past cringe and into plain anger.
'Representation culture" is peak narcissism. These people think that Demographics are personality traits...
And lets all be honest its not just teens but people in their 20s 30s and even 40s
Such is the cost of having it so good in America. Many of these whiny little shits on Twitter should be forcibly dropped in a third world country for a month with nothing but the clothes on their backs and no access to social media. I promise you they wouldn't last a week before they rushed to their nearest US embassy demanding to be sent back home upon realizing just how privileged they are to have no real problems.
"Crowdfund my escape".
That feels like that was written by a boomer or something.
"Crowdfund - that's a modern interwebs term, wasn't in my day; let's put it into this dialogue. I'm sure it will sound right in practice."
It was blackmail, extortion, downright terrorism, but this chick makes it sound like she asked for sheckels on YT.
@@denkerbosu3551
It sounded clunky to me.
And the part about a firewall stopping an EMP.
@@luxie8097
Yeah total boomer tier dialogue and explanations. Couldn't they have an expert on computer science to advise the writers?
@@CRIMI0N
"I hear it's something they do on the world wide web."
"Oh. Um, tell the foley guys to make sure to put in one of those modem dialtones, let's get this right."
Batman in this situation
"The Hammer of justice is unisex"
proceeds the deck the little girl in the face
*_"Do you bleed?"_*
One of my favorite moments in Brave and the Bold. I recall he says something similar in the animated series when he fought against the red claw woman.
@@isaiahgarraway5568 He says "I'm an equal opportunity crime fighter".
@@patrickpapanikolaou63 Yeah thats the one.
Equal rights....to receive a beat down
Mauler: I can't believe Alice beat batwoman and a little girl with a trombone.
Well a trombone is a swordlike weapon
'Tis indeed a good point
🤔
*unsheathes trombone* Have at you!🎺
Did she hit with the pommel?
I'm pretty sure when in the credits it says "Based on characters created by Bob Kane and Bill Finger" that none of the characters in the actual show were created by those two gents. I'm sure they'd be spinning in their grave if they saw what the Crisis did to Bruce. What a bunch of tisms you are CW
In this episode Kate faces her greatest challenge when she has to choose which criminal to save.
...and to think people complain when Batman saves the Joker. At least after he's done saving him, he takes his ass back to Arkham.
@@cartooncritique6625and he only does it cause he doesn't kill.
Kate Kane regularly kills people, ffs she killed Batman😂😂.
Wow, it sure is lucky that Batwoman's high school is the only one to use that certain bell sound. I know my elementary, junior high, and high school used the same bell sound much like most schools in my area did. Which was coincidentally the same sound that came out of my grandfather clock at home. She's just so gosh darn lucky.
Never doubt a Woman's Intuition™®
How dare you question a lesbian
Not to mention that she was lucky enough that the person she was looking for was at the dance she crashed. An occasion that isn't mandatory and probably wouldn't have every student in attendance. Also that there happened to be a dance going on during this specific time in general.
Aaaaaannndd the fact that it was even a student at all and not just some random faculty member considering the female voice doesn't necessarily guarantee what age bracket the person falls into.
"The sane reaction to not having a gay person as the main character of your favorite TV show is to almost murder hundreds of people" - Batwomen
Me: Mom, can we have the train scene from spiderman 2?
Mom: We already have the train scene at home
Train scene at home: 5:20
Sounds like you and your mom get your movies exclusively through the pirated and bootlegged DVD industry
Mommy, can you stop taking acid and be a good parent. Think of my mental growth. Please?
The motorcycle should've been ripped in half, assuming the grappling hooks, the wires, or the things the grappling hooks attach to didn't give way first. Assuming that everything is made of bullshitium, and the train truly did stop like that, everyone inside would be fucking dead. At the very least, Batwoman would've been murdered, along with every other schmuck in scene, by the grappling hook whipping through the air and cheese wiring through everything.
Multiple people were paid to write and make this. Where can I get a job like this?
Outsource I don’t want to have Batwoman anywhere near my resume. CW execs may give me a fat paycheck, but they will never take my dignity in exchange for it.
Well, if you want to get away with crime in Gotham, just tell Batwoman that you''re gay with gay-hating parents. Trust me, it'll work. you don't even have to be related to KK. Good grief.
Opening scene, all those people are dead. You know why cars have airbags in addition to seat belts? The seat belt keeps you from flying out of the car when it suddenly stops, the airbag keeps your body from going from 60 to 0 in an instant and instead puts that deceleration over the course of a few seconds.
As it turns out, sudden stops from high speeds are very bad for organic beings who's organs can shift around slightly. Not to mention everyone in the train would have gone flying since none of them were secured to anything.
It's almost like that was an incident that changed the entire world of superheroes in a Pixar movie over a decade ago...
I think it would’ve been legitimately safer to let the train plow into the concrete
@@ryanharo9552 when a cartoon made for kids has more realistic depiction of a superhero stopping a train...
Oh yeah there is that too. Nevermind everything else.
@@meepingtom416 Certainly so. Wall and train deformation would have absorbed at least some of the collision shock.
This episode:
Everyone knowing you're gay is more important than LIFE ITSELF!
Next episode as well.
@@TheRoflcer And the next one
@@samhouston9162 The next one tones the gay back plenty.
Instead replacing it with "Well we used our Beth clone for the very specific purpose we had her in for, now kill her off before we can use her to help fully realise any of our bland existing characters and go back to square one"
Hate Mongering Verbal Terrorist of the Toxic Brood it’s more important than hundred of innocent lives, apparently. Imagine if there were children on board the train. How would she justify her actions then, if she ever could already?!
Marine: "Sir, we found Bin Laden. We got a problem?"
Command: "What is it?"
Marine: "He's gay. He said he was outed. He just did 9/11 to divert his parents from this. It was just a prank."
Command: "OMG. This changes everything. He definitely is worse of than all the next-of-kin from that attack."
Marine: "What should we do?"
Command: "Give him some hours communial work, we'll tell the world we killed him to get his parents of his back. So he can be proper gay."
Chair of Truth Marine: “Roger that sir.. WAIT WAIT HES IDENTIFYING AS A WOMAN WHO DO I RESPOND?!
Cut to Osama in the gay bar 😂😂
Kate Kane being furious at the idea of being in a straight relationship reminds me of my classmates in middle school who hated being called gay.
The "how dare people think the guy who saved me and I look good together, I'm super duper gay" plot point might just be the most cringeworthy thing ever.
Insolent Crow it reached peak cringe levels when they started saying thousands of citizens were “shipping” them. What in the world?!
I think the lesson the show is pushing is let the lesbians be killed? 🤔
This has been the "Be Gay, Do Crime" episode
@Dog House Girl: community service *clicks teeth*
Fringy: Now listen here you little shit!
Ya' know, the next time I commit a crime, I'm just gonna tell the police that I'm gay; let you guys know how it goes
Kelvin Shubert Next time I commit a crime, when I’m apprehended I’ll just tell the officers “It’s just my opinion.”
Batwoman thinks, that you can't be a criminal, if you are gay. Sadly this isn't a joke
Hey anyone remember that law and order episode where a guy tried to kill himself by parking in front of a incoming train. Injuring over a 100 people (think the exact number was 123) and also resulting in 12 deaths. Yeah, you wanna know what happened? He got charged with murder and attempted murder and was sentenced to life in prison. This teenage girl who tried to kill 100s of people only gets community service (and whines about it).
My head hurts from hard I facepalmed at this plot.
My Lord, what a shit thing. Kate probably didn't even tell the cops.
That episode was based on a real event, too. In 2005, a guy parked his SUV on railroad tracks in Glendale, California, but changed his mind at the last minute and abandoned the car. 177 people were wounded and 11 killed.
He wasn't sentenced to life in prison, though...he was sentenced to _eleven_ consecutive life sentences with no possibility of parole after being convinced of 11 counts of first-degree murder.
@@electricbayonet2 That fucker deserved it
@@electricbayonet2 Wouldn't it have been faster and easier to turn the car back on and drive away?
She wasn't going to kill them though, it doesn't change everything but it's an important detail
Oh my God, I was warned that episode 10's tisms are beyond our imagination and I took them lightly. Oh, God, people are paid for this.....
it gets worse........
@@observer985 I would imagine
41:11 Kate's stunt double is CLEARLY asian lmao
Hahaha it is too! Lol 😂
@JLongbone I caught that too! It makes sense, Ruby Rose is built like a 12 year old boy so of course they had to get an asian girl to double for her.
Can we replace Ruby Rose with that Stunt Double? We don't know her, but I am sure she is MUCH more likable.
@@johannesseyfried7933 But what if she is not a Lesboynian!?!?!
@@raz2493 Well, too bad for the LGBT Community, we're still gonna make her the new Batwoman.
But maybe they are lucky and she is Bi.
"I bet you the plot is that he's a fake hero cop, and he's setting things up to make himself look good."
-Fringy, shortly before learning that the 'Batwoman' writing team never disappoints to disappoint.
Where's the call it tip jar? Because the total is buying me a drink.
@@t.thomas8919 but wasn't this quote about how it's wildly different from what we expected but somehow just as shit
oh grandmaster of the writing, what lesson can one learn from this episode?
@@somerandomguyfromthebeyond1821 Scroll through the recent-ish comments. Then keep scrolling, because YT seems to like burying my multi-part comments. Ctrl+F for either my name or the phrase 'Storytelling 101' and you'll see what I have to say about this episode.
Char pls check dms
Professor guy: "Someone making a skin mask to look like Jacob? Pfft, yeah right. That's science fiction."
Luke 5 minutes ago: "The trains are hack proof ever since the man who dresses up like a scarecrow and gives people super vivid hallucinations of their worst fears hacked them."
Plus I'm assuming Clayface exists in this world too.....
@@linchpin29967 He does, he has a cell in Arkham.
Alex Gelina he does. In episode 9, evil Bruce says his name directly.
Yeah, did the writers forget what comic book they were adapting? Hell, they could have claimed it was Clayface and it would have been cause for reasonable doubt.
Didn't they also catch Alice on live video stealing skin from a morgue? I forget if that was just Wayne Bat footage or GCPD also knew about it.
But considering Alice has a motive to frame Jacob Kane (even if they don't know she's his daughter she has an expressed grudge against the Crows and the Law), wouldn't this also ascribe a motive that bizarre action?
I like how Mary is being portrayed as unreasonable...but she is right.
Its not even about keeping Alice from being killed. She actively allowed her to avoid capture.
Also, out of all the people Alice killed, it took her putting the life of a gay girl at risk to know Alice was beyond saving.
What does that say about here character? That she only cares about your life if you have the same sexual orientation as her.
@@ButtersTheGreat1 If it was her own Father and a random gay girl she met 10 minutes ago, she'll choose the gay girl in a heartbeat, every time.
I like how they establish that Kate no longer wants to save Alice, if not being willing to kill her herself, and yet she will escape capture and injury multiple additional times after this point.
Kate pins her to a machine when a Bomb goes off in the school? Alice is out without even dust in her hair. Later episode has her choosing between saving Alice or Beth? She just waits for delete-tisms instead of slitting her throat or putting the psychopath down herself (and neither does Mary do anything for that matter after hand cuffing her), then Alice escapes being handcuffed to a bed just because she knocked Kate out apparently.
It's not even just writing stupid behaviors, the characters aren't even consistent in them.
*SLAM* Whud'ya bring me?
*stares*
Is this supposed to be Alice?
No, that is supposed to be Louis Lane
I love how they complain about shipping while their main audience must totally be the kind of fans to ship characters
But these are straight characters...
So no.
@Templar Knight Wasn't it the post saying the shippers are in mourning or whatever and did you die at Mary's Alice impression?
“Aspiring to be represented by an ancillary character in my favorite TV show”
I love the cast’s responses to this, because what they say and how they say it truly emphasizes how blunt this is. This is “holy shit that’s a lotta whiplash” levels of blunt. A nightstick is extremely sharp compared to that message, holy god.
Is gay a sword-like weapon?
@@gerek4235 yes
I like beans. I thought I was hallucinating when I heard this because no one writes actual scenes like this outside of comedies (and really trash comedies, at that)
I feel like its more of writers responses to this
My sanity is slowly decreasing
@@rollrcoastrbacon2725 At least a bad comedy would have tried to spin this as a joke. This is just utter cringe. :/
I still haven't gotten past the train part guys. It goes against everything I have learned about the universe and the laws of physics and my head hurts
Jupiter Fox! With that logic spiderman should have stopped the train the moment his foots lands on ground
Or mr incredible doing the same thing
Even a freakin' LOONEY TUNES cartoon has more respect for the laws of physics!
@@boodesultan12 Hell, the fact that Mr. Incredible tried to do that is what started the plot since it broke a bunch of peoples' necks
A frog, dog, german and long discuss the issues of our time.
Love that strong independant gay woman has a black man servant...
SJWs love their subservient black man sidekicks...
God Finn was such a fucking waste in Star Wars...
One that questions her not at that....
Funny thing I did notice how in all those woke media the white feminist always have the black man servant.
That she beat into submission. Darn, when are we getting Gun Luke from the Evil Conroy universe?!
Wonder how much of her suit is made out of cotton.
So.. Batwoman just leaves that emp in the middle of a school dance? Am I missing something?
Nope, you didn't miss anything. It didn't even explode on use or something like that.
Ignoring the obvious fact that everyone on that train would be 1000% dead, didn't Luke say in Episode 1 that those grappling hooks have a 1 ton tolerance? Tell me, how much does a train weigh?
Wil Oh my god you’re right! And when the cable broke on Kate’s mom’s car that was the catalyst for the all the show’s events! But when Batwoman does it, it works perfect.
Not just how much it weighs, but also how much force would have been applied at the time of attachment. The thing would have snapped immediately.
Physics says everyone should have become a big spiky meatball
Very very true
That cable has so much inconsistency
"WhY D1dN't Y0u SaY y0U w3Re SuP3r GaY?!"
-Batwoman Season 1 Episode 10
Better or worse than "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?"
@@calemr Probably worse even though WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!? was stupid as all hell.
@@Aspi3Gam3r it's forced, not stupid.
I love how the show attempts to manufacture Kate's dilemma and morals, but the writing never shows it. Kate is too one dimensional to have any moral conflicts. She never feels or shows remorse for letting Alice go and she doesn't care about the consequences her decisions have. Kate only "helps" people out of validation or when she's projecting her personal issues onto that particular person. Parker is a great example, a psychopathic brat who nearly murdered dozens of innocent people. But since she's gay, Kate gives her a second chance. I understand the writers want to make Kate into a brooding anti-hero like Batman, but even Batman had an emotional depth to him. Batman was human and he had established morals and standards. Bruce had a REASON to become Batman because of his tragic past. Kate didn't become Batwoman out of a desire for justice, but out of spite. Kate is not selfless, she murdered Batman with no remorse, she's not compassionate to those unfortunate, she is definitely not heroic. Kate is more fixated on the public thinking her SECRET identity is straight, rather than the protecting the city
I don't think the writers think Batwoman is an Anti-hero. I just think they're fucking incompetent at writing heroes.
In what ways is Batman an anti-hero? Maybe we're working from different definitions here.
”…firewall strong enough…” this man is not related to Lucius Fox
If the firewall isn't strong enough they could decrypt the algorithm of the RAM bots and recompile the motherboard!
@@CruelestChris at least he can get a job a The Verge's tech division
YAY
THE GREATEST SHOW ON TV IS BACK
*slowly dies inside*
JC fr I was so happy to see this then I remembered what I was watching.
The price we all pay for. But out of most, the EFAP squad suffer so we don't have to.
T. Thomas very true good sire
this is much more fun to watch than star trek picard... i cant hate watch picard... its like someone dressing your grandpa up in motley
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Mary and Luke don’t deserve to suffer in this twisted universe as Kate’s lackeys.
Ironically they do more superhero work than Kate does. I remember in one episode where she got all pissy at them despite never doing any detective work herself. All she cares about is screwing the next woman she sees whilst her black abused manservant picks up the pieces. Progressive show my ass.
It's like you guys are in an abusive lesbian relationship with Kate. Just can't stop coming back for more.
There are shape shifters in the Arrowverse and they think it’s impossible that one dude is disguised as Jacob Cane
THERE ALIENS!! JOHN EXISTS! MAGIC HAS BEEN SHOWN TO EXIST LIKE WTF
Could give you the answer but it would be a bit of a spoiler
“A man who can make himself look exactly like other man, that’s science fiction”... how does a professor with links to the Gotham legal system not know about CLAY FACE and automatically realize this is very much not science fiction
Not just shapeshifters. This is Gotham City. Did everybody just forget that Clayface is a thing?
Batwoman is powered by her magnum homosexual energy
An apex homosexual, in many ways.
she's not the apex there can only be one per Universe.
My my, it’s Kylo-Ben Shapiro! Destroying with faps and logicked!
Magnusexuality
@@Unknown-hb3id you know it
Maybe the real super gay were the friends we made along the way.
"I'm very, very gay"
So... there are grades of gay? Is there like a toggle switch of gay? Maybe the problem is that she isn't very, very, *super* gay?
Also, is it possible to be very, very straight? Are there flaming straights?
Do any of the writers even have a sexuality to speak of?
Personally I subscribe to the Ray Gillette theory of "Nobody's that gay".
Correction: *_shades_* of gay.
I'm under the impression that it's a dimmer switch and Kate set hers to "batsignal"
I'm sure they claim they do. Constantly. As they have nothing else to define themselves.
Clearly, sexuality is quantifiable.
For example, Kate would be around... 93.47% gay.
Rags: "There's a sale at Penny's!" The best line
I would love if mid-series Luthor finds a bunch of pages stable on to the book of destiny that is what keeping Batwoman so fucking unlogical, and he justs rips it off and suddenly things are logical but Kate.
Doctor Deegan and the book of destiny??
@@CptnCardboard what?
Also, why didn't they get Tywin Lannister in this episode?! His wisdom on the topic would have been appreciated!
The Laughing Cavalier He won’t have human intercourse with his own daughter, so of course he’s the gayest one of all
Spider-Man, Elastigirl and Batwoman hanging out at a bar.
Spider-Man: "I once had this runaway-train. The brakes were destroyed and I had to stop it before it ran out of tracks."
Elastigirl and Batwoman: "Hey, me too!" How did you do it?"
Spider-Man: "I put myself at the front. After trying to slow it down with my foot, which didn't work, I connected my Spider-webs to all the surrounding buildings and pulled, slowing down the train with my sheer strength. It damaged several buildings and I fainted off exhaustion but I finally managed to stop the train."
Elastigirl: "Amazing. I had to separate the two train-cars to slow it down and then turn myself into a parachute until it screeched to a halt. Was really hard. Barely made it."
Spider-Man: "Cool. I guess stopping a speeding train ain't easy and takes a lot of effort. And how did you do it, Batwoman?"
Batwoman: "Well, I just shoot a tiny hook into the backside of the train and attached it with my wire to the rail-tie. The train immediately stopped."
Spider-Man and Elastigirl: "...."
Batwoman: and then when I confronted the person responsible she told me she was a lesbian, and I let her go.
Bruce cultivates his playboy lifestyle as a cover for Batman. Bruce is out all night partying and sleeps all day has so many girlfriends that they just kinda blend together. Kate on the other hand is too thin skinned to ever contemplate creating a second persona.
"Why didn't you sing everything is SUPER when you're GAAAAAAAAAAAY"
Also: what are the odds that Other-Alice is actually here to introduce the concept of Hypertime to the CW-DCverse? Because we've been-there-done-that with the multiverse, and we all know how the producers love to show off their "extensive knowledge" of DC lore.
Nah. She fucking dies in 2 episodes and everyone forgets about her.
goji3755 nah, Hypertime doesn't have the word quantum in it, so they'll avoid it like the plague.
@@a_Lemming SPOILER!
@@capttinklebutt3837 Honestly, I can't tell if it's a spoiler or sarcastic speculation given how insane and nonsensical the story direction is in this show
Wil But what about Quantum Hypertime?
This must have been written by The Joker, then it would make sense that nothing makes sense
Which joker ? Jared Leto ?
@@yusiuc5533 You assume this level of insanity could possibly be measured to determin the origin?
This show must have been written by Harley Quinn. Really think about it:
She’s CRAZIER than the Joker...
And as of Birds of Prey, she’s more woke and less entertaining.
This script was written by Melvin, brother of The Joker
I feel like that's an insult to the Joker. He might be crazy, but he's not stupid.
Praise the Don and pass the ammunition, we’re back to Batwoman and it’s time for STORYTELLING 101 Episode 7, and this…this one’s a real doozy. I keep saying that Batwoman finds a new way to be fascinatingly bad with each new episode, and it _keeps_ _doing_ _it_ ! For this episode, we’re going to look at something that’s been basically completely ignored for the entire show: the necessary sacrifices of a secret identity.
THE SETUP: Some of the most interesting parts of ‘Batman’ media involve the separation between the paired identities of Batman and Bruce Wayne. There’s a level of near-constant strain on Bruce to maintain this, and the result is that he’s forced to wear a mask even when he isn’t in costume. ‘Batwoman’ has had basically none of that, but since this episode focuses on public perception and how the rumor mill influences Kate, we can change that. Or rather, we _could_ have changed it if the hypothetical HACK or LAZY HACK writers were working on this show, but instead we got the BATWOMAN WRITER.
THE HACK APPROACH: Kate is upset that people are shipping Batwoman with photogenic police officer after he _saved_ _her_ _ungrateful_ _bitch_ _life_ in the field. Apparently this is a problem, and Kate doesn’t want a filthy hetero to get credit for a lesbonio’s work. She says something to this effect to Luke, and because Luke actually has a spine in this continuity he has some rather choice things to say.
‘Kate Kane’ is, for goodness knows what reason, seen as a pillar of the community. She’s rich as hell and part of her very character description is that she is constantly saying whatever she’s thinking. As Batwoman, she’s (also for goodness knows what reason) adored by the public and has radio pundits acting like hypebeasts on her behalf. Luke points this out…and the pulls up some old tabloid stories about Bruce Wayne.
For all the good he did with his wealth, ‘Bruce Wayne’ did not have a very good public perception. He was seen as a philandering, irresponsible playboy, and Bruce not only allowed this image to persist, but he actively fed it. It not only afforded him the opportunity to go Batman-ing whenever he needed to, but it also made it that much harder to link him to Batman. After all, how could a man like _Bruce_ _Wayne_ be the selfless, tireless defender of Gotham?
And, as Luke explains, _Bruce_ _did_ _not_ _enjoy_ _this_ . He had virtually no meaningful relationships as Bruce Wayne because the number of people that truly knew him could be counted on both hands with fingers to spare. Women in his life are inevitably perceived by the public as the latest in a long line of ‘Wayne girls’ (which is an actual tabloid term in the comics), and he can’t let any relationships grow beyond a certain point because it would require letting them see past his mask.
Meanwhile, we have Kate, who is fussing about how Batwoman is being shipped with a man, and then acts like she has some kind of moral duty to make sure that the public doesn’t assume she’s heterosexual (as if knowing a superhero’s orientation has stopped shippers before). This is some of the pettiest nonsense imaginable, and Luke should be able to see that better than anyone.
Hell, why not mention the cop that Kate seems to insist on never referring to by name? Give him some actual detail. Have Luke pull up his police file on the computer. Maybe he’s married. Hell, maybe he’s got a kid, too. Lots of cops have families to go home to. He sure as hell doesn’t have a secret identity. Did Kate even stop to consider what being thrust into the spotlight might mean for him?
Anyway, the endpoint of this arc would be Kate realizing that there’s a limit to how much of herself she can express as Batwoman. If we absolutely_have_ to keep this trainwreck (ha!) of a villain motivated by being the gay, then maybe during the confrontation with Batwoman there’s no unmasking or confession of also being gay. Maybe-
-oh! That works: the only change would be to remove any involvement with the runaway train. It’s just a runaway train. Why not just _start_ the girl’s crimes at the ‘Give me money or I leak all your personal information’ thing? She was already on the train to witness Batwoman and PhotogenicCop ‘together,’ so just have that be what pushed her to more extreme action (but ultimately nonviolent action).
So then when she’s caught, maybe Alice still does her bomb-tism thing to threaten Kate, but the girl uses her still-functional superphone to disable them. Then when she’s still turned in afterward, it’s stated that she got a really favorable plea deal for nothing aside from community service in recognition for the role she played in saving her classmates, and because what she did wasn’t _that_ severe anyway.
Then I guess Kate (as Kate, not Batwoman) can contrive a reason for being on-site during some of that community service, strike up a conversation, and learn that her home life has improved because their daughter’s near-death experience at the hands of a serial killer made her parents realize that they care more about their daughter’s wellbeing than they do about what kinds of genitals she likes. BUT, and this is important, Kate still doesn’t create any connection between herself and Batwoman in this conversation. She doesn’t leak any extra info, she doesn’t give any winks or nods…she just talks to the girl as Kate Kane, and she reflects in the inevitable narration that this is enough (for reasons I’ll go over shortly).
And there’s no dumb fucking ‘Lookit me Imma lesbonio!’ magazine article.
THE LAZY HACK: Honestly, this is one of the times when the Hack and the Lazy Hack are pretty much in alignment. There isn’t much to cut out of laziness. The main things to retain would be:
-Erase the girl’s involvement in the runaway train (outside of physically being on it) and reduce the scale of her crimes to ‘gib money so I can run away or get doxed,’ so she gets nothing but a slap on the wrist after she helps save her classmates
-Have Luke talk to Kate about the separation between Bruce Wayne and Batman as a result of Kate’s fit about the most childish of things
-Have Kate reveal no additional information about Batwoman to the girl, or anyone public, and talks to the girl as Kate Kane to give a thinly-veiled ‘It gets better’ message (which she can give without needing the girl to tell her she’s a lesbian).
Oh, and I guess as an extra point for both this and the Hack approach, don’t have Alice physically confront Kate in the climax. She just, I dunno, calls her about the bombs. The last time we saw Kate, she was fighting dementors and GreatValueThanos for the fate of the multiverse. Now is not the time to have her losing physical confrontations with Alice.
And, as before, THERE’S NO DUMB FUCKING ‘LOOKIT ME IMMA LESBONIO!’ MAGAZINE ARTICLE.
But we didn’t get either of those, now did we? What we got was…
THE BATWOMAN WRITER: The reason it took me so long to work on this (I’ve been workshopping it since Crisis 5/5) was because there is just so much wrong with this episode that could warrant the Storytelling 101 treatment. It’s like this episode was written by a _team_ of Batwoman Writers.
As if the writers saw criticism of the awful grappling-hook physics in old episodes and said ‘Oh you think that was stupid, hold my tism and watch this!’ we get the subway nonsense. They couldn’t even be arsed to do the classic ‘grappling hook grabs onto things and has to slow the train down over time’ thing. They just had it stop the entire train about a meter from the end of the line. Have…have they ever been on a train before when it suddenly stops? Or in a car? Or even just _in_ _motion_ ?!
And the entire shipping thing subplot? Just…how? How are we supposed to take Kate seriously when she acts like it’s such a big deal? Even by CW standards, this is dumb. Years back, ‘Supernatural’ had an in-universe shipping thing with its two protagonists. First and foremost, it was used for a joke and then pretty much left behind, because of course it was. Second, the reason it squicked them out so much was because the two protagonists are _brothers_ . They didn’t even bother mentioning that they were heterosexual, because why would that matter? What mattered is that they were creeped out by people fantasizing about them being involved despite being siblings. But, other than the occasional callback, it was kept as a joke.
But Kate? She’s _pissed_ off at this because she hates the idea of being seen as heterosexual. Why isn’t this just a one-off joke where she’s creeped out by people shipping Batwoman with Alice? Or hell, with Batman? And for the latter, she wouldn’t even mention that she only likes girls. The obvious problems would be A) he’s her cousin B) he’s basically her parents’ age and C) she recently made an alternate dimension version of him Kentucky Fried, so that’s probably going to mess with any interactions she has with RealBruce.
Alice shows up, and…oh, come on! We’ve seen Batwoman get up a few seconds after being hit by A TRUCK! She just finished fighting hordes of demonghosts and GreatValueThanos! Her suit is apparently so potent that Batman invented a special gun to murder anyone who stole it. She has taser-fists that should solve 95% of all confrontations, and 100% of the ones with Alice. How is she still losing fights to this untrained maniac, much less getting knocked out by a brass instrument?
And the magazine.
Oh, the _FUCKING_ magazine.
I’ve mentioned in my ‘Crisis’ posts that, from here on out, the show is going to be riddled with ‘You have Supergirl and the Flash on speedial. Why aren’t you calling for help?’ moments, but…I never once thought that it would be _this_ level of stupid. She _does_ call Supergirl for help, but it’s for help announcing that she’s a lesbian?! What?!? Why would…how does that even work? Who took that cover photo? What did Kara tell her editor? What the hell is comprising all that text? Did Kate basically just tell her entire life’s story and think that some name changes would be enough to protect her identity? And-
-wait, hang on. One of the previous episodes’ plots revolved around convincing Sophie that she was wrong to think Kate and Batwoman were the same person. Am I remembering that correctly? Because if so, the writers sure weren’t, because now there’s a big ‘ole gossy 8x10 of ‘Obviously Kate Kane’ in the batsuit putting out _a_ _literal_ _press_ _release_ because she couldn’t bear the thought of the public thinking she was a non-lesbian!
I thought my expectations for this show had hit rock bottom, but apparently I need to bring a jackhammer just to keep up with this show’s cascading failures.
But that’s the hallmark of the ‘Batwoman Writer,’ isn’t it? It never disappoints to disappoint.
@@electricbayonet2 It's always a roller coaster to find these comments
Bump this shit. :)
You're more of a hero for doing these write ups than Batwoman is.
This show is just amazingly bad. You have to be worse then a hack to write this kind of stuff.
You guys are in for a real treat when the vampires show up in the next two episodes.
"How can things get any more insane?"
*batwoman giggles in the shadows*
Bruh it gets worse??
Wait, dead seriously???
@@charmandyorton006 ua-cam.com/video/4uyav7jaHCg/v-deo.html
Will this vampire also show up in Rags's Vampire the Masquerade sessions too?
Wait for the vampire episode, that one is a gem...
I heard an honest-to-goodness radio ad for it, and I lost it at the sound of Jacob(?) declaring "Let's find this blood-guzzling serial kiler before Batwoman!"
THE WHAT?????
@@josephpanno6816 EXACTLY!!!!
@@electricbayonet2 Yeah in that episode Jacob is freed (we don't see the trial, because interesting things are evil I guess) and wants to show the Crows are better than Batwoman.
So he's back at square one of his development for the season. Great stuff!
@@LeHobbitFan "Yeah in that episode Jacob is freed (we don't see the trial, because interesting things are evil I guess)"
Bizarrely? This is one of the few times when shit _could_ have _almost_ been explained away by the events of Crisis on Infinite Tisms...if the writers were merely hacks instead of 'Batwoman writers.' Before now, we never saw any on-screen superpowers, so we could have at least pretended that this was an Earth that didn't have superpowers or whatever so the stuff Skinman did _would_ sound implausible, but after the fusion of Earths retroactively made superheroes a proper thing the case would be thrown out almost immediately because of how much evidence there was of Real!Jacob being elsewhere when Fake!Jacob was doing crimes.
I say 'could have almost,' however, because the writers just couldn't help but mention _fucking_ _Wonder_ _Woman_ two episodes into this disaster, so the notion of a guy that can make lifelike masks from skin being considered impossible is baffling in a world that has _actual_ _people_ _with_ _far_ _more_ _fantastic_ _superpowers_ .
"why didnt you say you were super gay?"
an appropriate heroes response
"Because being gay is not what makes me a hero, just how being gay does not make you a villain, it is our actions"
BATWOMAN
"because I want to monopolise on how to tell people"
“I’m not super gay. I’m only moderately gay.”
6:05 Fringy came up with a better plot on the fly than these writers...
The writers ignorance of hacking is equivalent to their ignorance of social issues!!
"Just because you are pretending to be Batman does not mean you automatically get all his abilities" You just stated the whole case against the "T"s!!!
But guys if we all pretend hard enough then reality will bend to our collective consciousness!!
Dah fuck was t’s
Just to put it out there: That's not how EMP works!
It is basically an electromagnetic impulse, that generates a static current in the wires that fries the electronics. It's like cooking your iPhone in the microwave oven. Your electronics are either protected against it or not. There is no 10 second rule!
And in case your device is protected, it means it uses a Faraday cage, so there can't be any signal or magnetic field around it that Batwoman's special glasses could see!
Did they f*ck up physics when they remade the universe in the Infinite Earth side quest?
This is the same place that had bullets going the same speed when underwater or the first part of this episode literally disobeying laws of physics and logic entirely.
Real-world concerned people: "I get that you're gay and I don't care. I mean, indifference is the ultimate acceptance. But having these raunchy gay pride parades and just shoehorning gay characters and themes into various media, as well as championing very obnoxious and downright mean-spirited activism has me suspect that it's not really you being gay that you're so proud of. I think it's just yourself that you're so proud of and you're using your sexuality to mask and provide social sanction for your insufferable narcissism.
Gay activist: "That's not true at all. You're homophobic!"
Batwoman writers: "I almost killed myself and a train full of people so that my parents would accept me being gay."
Is this awful writing? Yes. Yet, does it precisely characterize the sort of motivation that informs this sort of in your face activism that Batwoman is based on? Absolutely. Thus I submit to you that this lesbian hacker character represents a Freudian Slip of sorts, giving a glimpse of the true motivations and sympathies of the writers.
Your giving idiots way too much credit the writers probably don’t even think that way
Every now and then, a comment encapsulates my thoughts perfectly. Bravo sir, your eloquence is much needed in these trying times.
I mean what kind of tinsel strength is required from riveted handle hookCablefastnerMotorcyclefastnerCableHookwooden railroad tie...
I cant even......
The dirt and wood where it hooked into the ground weren't even DISTURBED.
I can even........
The handle door on the back of the train had to be as strong as the rest.
All the individual couplers between cars....
People would have been sailing through glass...
Someone got paid money to film that.
Someone got paid to write that.
*Tensile strength.
And it doesn't even start rolling back. The passages would have suffered less damage if the train car smashed into the terminal.
I mean, the cable wouldn't be taut enough to still be ripped out and come flying at her head either after the train was stopped. The demands of the plot are beyond your physics.
How dare you engage in critical thinking?
The girl claimed she was planning to stop the train herself but batwoman did it before she could. Which, rewatching that scene... HOW? It was already stopped at the last possible moment and the writers had to switch physics off even for that to succeed!
16:22 :This was pointed out by a commenter on JLongborne's video, but this universe has Clayface who was known to change into other people AND was a part of Batman's rogue gallery. How can the idea of a skin mask be science fiction?
No better question they have dudes not only like clay face but poison ivy, fucking killer croc, bane, Man Bat and others that defy normal logic. Yet switching faces is IMPOSSIBLE
@@isaiahgarraway5568 Good point.
Captain America? Did they forget which universe they're in?
@chaoszieg Okay, still weird that they exist in the DC universe, but I'll roll with it
@@KelShu the show is supposed to be taking place in the real world so i guess marvel comics would exist.
@chaoszieg Still a bad business practice to inadvertently advertise a competing product.
Its like a running joke dude. DC references marvel. And vice versa. As if one or the other is fake. DC is real and marvel is fake with comics and shit. Thats what they r saying anyway.
@chaoszieg Didn't Flash reference Batman as well? They lured out a villain with a Flash Symbol, Cisco says that he read it in a comic while still also having Batman around in his universe.
Dr. Who at least acknowledged that because you're a time traveler, it effects you in a way that it was as if you were outside of time. As a result, you remember things others didn't and you don't immediately gain the memories of the changed timeline. I'm going to imagine nothing is going to be explained here.
notice how every woman in this show that isnt related to kate (legally or by blood) is gay/bi or flirts with her
Oh great! Another Mary Sue protagonist in another poorly written, hackfraud woke identity politic drama wearing the skin of a really popular IP in the entertainment industry
At least they held back a bit then
that was unbelievable. The writing in this show is simply indescribable
11:59 If there's no expiry date and security code, the credit card number alone is kinda useless; plus given how far the hacker broadcast their message, could someone notify the credit card company to cancel/suspend the card?
To be fair, that wasn't really the point... I think.
James Grimes yeah especially when the dude having his info leaked is someone as paramount and influential to the city as _The Mayor_
I can't get over the fact that they had a character say that "Perfectly impersonating another man is science-fiction".
A character who lives in Gotham.
Where Clayface lives.
just rewatching these for the laughs and I am not disappointed.
We are back to the "exciting" narrative known as Kate Kane: Beyond
Beyond autism
Super Gay and Beyond
This show has about as much excitement in it as Bed Bath & Beyond does
Beyond The Big Gay
16:06 "Dr Campbell!"
Rags: "Ah yes, your study on soup, it's revolutionary."
I laughed.
Yeah, me too but I think it went unnoticed by the others.
When your side-character (Mary) is actually going through a more substantial character arc than all the other characters in your show combined, there's an issue.
Finally catching a premier right when it starts!
I'm bleeding from the eyes trying to follow the logic of this episode
22:29
That's a pretty gentle representation of how that scenario actually goes down.
Firewalls are security devices that analyze, monitor, and filter data packets coming to and from your network.
The keyword being DATA.
Unless electromagnetic pulses are delt in the form of digital data, no firewall would protect your device.
This is such nonsense.
But what if they have a QUANTUM firewall?
Welcome to batwoman
I always check the end of these videos to see how the *_”Whatcha bring me”_* meme has evolved
Being able to hack every screen everywhere is comically impossible. Most screens in public places are intentionally not connected to the internet, let alone all the different software in place, security software and the sheer volume of processing power to stream to a million devices live etc.
I'm so glad i discovered you guys. Never have i ever found a group of guys i love so much.
the merging is not just in batwoman, it's in Flash as well
5:20 It’s so painful to look at this scene. A mere lesbian with motorbike can stop a high speed train with a twink grappling hook while Spiderman a superhuman used 20 webs, tore his suit, and surface buildings to stop the train
28:00 "What was that?" It's a friendship bracelet.
At this point I'm convinced that the writers of the show hate working on it so much that they're purposefully putting in the most batshit insane and offensively bad plot points possible in order to tank the ratings and get it cancelled sooner.
It's the highest rated show on CW
Alice wanting to repair her family makes me think they watched the Doctor Who where Missy told the Doctor that this was all to get their friendship back. At that point - it was 44 years of building across many good writers (and before the current era of sucky writers). On Batwoman - no buildup at all