Very good marketing ploy ''virtual tracks''; but the whole concept of rail efficiency, is low resistance, round steel-wheels rolling on top of flat steel rail lines...this cannot be duplicated, just because the marketing concept says its cool enough to imagine...the only exception would be if the rail car were magnetically elevated...but, that is not so, in this case.
But there are cases where the use of tires and not steel wheels is totally justified, such as Mexico City where the soil is significantly weak and trains with steel wheels literally increase subsidence and damage infrastructure. On the other hand, in cities with steep slopes it is much more feasible to use tires because they have greater traction than traditional trams.
This completely goes against the actual benefits of HAVING tracks. The entire idea is that steel against steel has an extremely lower resistance than rubber on tarmac.
@@Alex-pj8nz The fact that Paris uses rubber wheels doesnt change the fact that having rubber wheels is a bad idea that defeats the purpose of it being a tram
This is a bit disappointing, I thought the vehicle can auto scan the virtual track marks by itself so the driver only needs to either speed up or slow down as if he's driving a tram. So, by the end of the day, it's just a bigger and longer bus.
I cannot read the captions on the video, but I don’t see how this differs from contactless guided bus systems which have operated elsewhere in the world. Am I missing something?
So, a high-tech overglorified bus, marketed as some sort of future tram, but way more expensive, way less eficient and can get stuck in traffic, well done china.
The interesting part is that these carriages don't necessarily connected. They could be running by themselves and follow the lead carriage via wireless connection.
So they made a bus at the length of a tram and said it carries the same number of people as metro. So they’re basically making BRT system just with a tram mask on. Wow what an innovation.
Not really, its basically a fake solution. The entire reason rail transport isn't as impactful on the enviroment is because of the decreased resistance of steel on steel, opposed to rubber on tarmac. All this really was, was China pretending they have a solution with marketing things as something they are not.
The only advantage of this transit is it can carry three times the passengers as an ordinary bus (or more depending on the compartments added by the bus company) and uses slightly less fuel per passenger. It is only useful for cities wanting to upgrade their existing bus fleet or thinking of procuring new buses. A new idea though, good China.
This basically looks like BRT but at the same times it looks like the combination of trolleybus and city trams. Maybe it just needs less space and project funds since it doesnt need tracks.
Key words: "Doesn't need tracks." Overall, this is just a bus trying to be a tram, but then again has NO BENEFITS that come with actually being a tram, because the entire idea is that there is a lower amount of a resistance when on steel rails.
A really good solution for middle sized cities that cannot afford a metro line but struggle with low bus capacity on the other hand. If this industry can produce affordable railbuses, I think that it will revolutionize our cities, since trams are static and much more expensive to build.
@@bingo737 No, it can carry the same amount of people as the specific tram they have measured it against, which is rather small. The entire ideology of lightrail and tram transit systems is that the impact from steel-on-steel contact is far less resistant than rubber on tarmac. To put what I said simply, the entire reason trams are an actual benefactor for the enviroment is because when tires hit the road it causes tire wear. Not to mention, these busses are battery operated, and not powered by overhead wires, ect. The carbon footprint used to construct these sort of lithium batteries is normally more impactful than a Deseil BRT overall. Lithium batteries are prone to fires with unknown causes and no warning. Lithium batteries will completely engulf whatever is in it, and they are extremely hard to put out in comparason to a regular fire. Trams use far less power consumtion to move due to the fact that the friction caused from roads is far more than sturdy steel rail. Overall, this project was even embarrassing *for its timeframe,* being a glorified BRT that pretends to be a tram, having the negatives of being a bus, and a (battery powered [see previous paragraph on lithium batteries]) electric bus. Meanwhile, they do not gain any of the actual driving points for installing a lightrail or tram system in to an area.
You're literally re-inventing the bi-articulated bus, except that you're introducing the logistical and moral issues of a self-driving car. It even looks identical to the Mettis Van Hool. "Virtual tracks" are called a route. If this is meant to be permanent or something, you're better off with light rail. If it's meant to be flexible: use a bus. This niche literally doesn't exist.
Brilliant work! You created a glorified BRT that pretends to be a tram, having the negatives of being a bus, and a (battery powered) electric bus, yet not having any of the actual economic and scale advantages of being a light rail or tram network.
This BUS will still be restricted to traffic speed in most cases. Most cities it would be too hard to dedicate room for this ,, and if they did they still could use existing bus transport on the same routs. just a fancy style that does the same thing.
I think that it isn’t a new bus technology, bus with virtual tracks exist since 2001 and in France. The city that uses this technology is Rouen and this buses are called teor ( transport est ouest rouennais i guess)
Everything fine, but one question. I saw moment that system is checking traffic in the road and drive by different road. This different road doesn't have vertical characters, so first why and what actually driver do in the bus.
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The King Not really like what America was. I've been waiting for the bullet train to go from DC and NYC since 5th grade late 60's. The Mega City of DC/NYC/Boston still hadn't materialized (since the late 60's).
The roadside sensors would be expensive alone. Best bet is to have all sensors for the vehicle ON the vehicle. Correct placement would allow it to detect curbs and other hazards.
So its a light rail train without the ACTUAL THING THAT MAKES IT WORTH INVESTING IN. The entire point of light rail is THE RAILS. thats what makes it worthwhile. This just results in the same form of rubber on tarmac we are used to.
We could use something like this right here in NYC, where parts of our boroughs, other than Manhattan, are transit deserts. Maybe the MTA ought to be looking at this type of transport as a complement to our existing buses, subways and rail roads.
stefralusi why dont u just show us the patent document of that system? this propagana is world wide, not a joke. if u think the chinese have copied ur system, u can engage in law suite, ok? or ask the enteprise in the videos which u have shown, they could engage themselves in law suite. ok? by the way, even the system u show it looks like a COPY. dont u think so?
How does this thing get power/electricity? This is electric right? A tram gets power from overhead lines, what about this? If it has batteries what's the mileage before re-charge?
I thought of this design several years ago after the capacative rapid-charge busses I saw being trialed. All the advantages of both trams and electric busses without the rails or wires. Should be very low relative cost to install if they can use the new rapid-charge glass battery concept. A self-drive typre GPS/Lidar system working in conjunction with the optical sensors should help solve problem of snow/rain making road markings harder to read.
You clearly do not understand the benefits of trams, and the negatives of electric busses. I hope you don't make uneducated incorrect comments like this 4 years later.
Je rêve de ce système pour Brazzaville qui souffre tant de l'inconfort dans le transport public. Est-ce possible pour les pays au climat tropical humide?
cujoe Mblakk. The Dutch system Phileas had magnets instead of optical guidance. The main problem with guided busways is the wear and tear of wheel tracks, leading to the more expensive replacement of the road surface with concrete.
Same question applies low trams, buses, small cars when snowing or raining simple,, commuters here in Finland no one concern accident, derailment of trams and bus or car accident because here Scandinavian region people who working snow removal companies, workers who working icy road safety systems they adopted the techniques how to prevented accident of icy,snowing or raining condition roads,,,,in Scandinavian people adopt slip icy condition,, even they help with those techniques to America, UK, which have worst accident every winter many people die or injured
Nice job, but I have a few questions: 1) how can a few hundred people fit in that thing??? It literally is a tram just without rails, it can’t have the capacity of a subway! 2) what if there is a traffic jam?? How will this be rapid if other motor vehicles are blocking it’s way? 3) I don’t speak Chinese, don’t start the video in English and then pass to Chinese
There are no rails! That’s called a bus. I’d replace the rubber tires with steel wheels, and then run it as an actual train. Switching would be done by metal barriers. Then all it would have to do is go forward.
Dude, this is meant to convert existing roads or building new dedicated asphalt roads in a short time! Not every country has a rail line but most have roads or can build one cheaply. Rail lines are very expensive to build !
@@Lobo-Lobo The reason they are expensive to build is because thats what actually makes trams and light rail efficient. This literally defeats the entire purpose of being a "bus tram"
POV: Your city is too lazy to actually build a tram system
Actually it’s cheap
Very good marketing ploy ''virtual tracks''; but the whole concept of rail efficiency, is low resistance, round steel-wheels rolling on top of flat steel rail lines...this cannot be duplicated, just because the marketing concept says its cool enough to imagine...the only exception would be if the rail car were magnetically elevated...but, that is not so, in this case.
The fact i keep getting people arguing against this point in my own comments even though my initial comments are over a year or two old
But there are cases where the use of tires and not steel wheels is totally justified, such as Mexico City where the soil is significantly weak and trains with steel wheels literally increase subsidence and damage infrastructure. On the other hand, in cities with steep slopes it is much more feasible to use tires because they have greater traction than traditional trams.
Thank you for calling it a bus.
This completely goes against the actual benefits of HAVING tracks. The entire idea is that steel against steel has an extremely lower resistance than rubber on tarmac.
The paris subway has rubber wheels instead of rails.
@@Alex-pj8nz Doesn't change my points though
@@DefaultMale_ No, you said that goes against the benefits of having tracks and yet the paris metro still uses rubber wheels.
@@Alex-pj8nz The fact that Paris uses rubber wheels doesnt change the fact that having rubber wheels is a bad idea that defeats the purpose of it being a tram
@@DefaultMale_ Actually this means you are wrong
This is a bit disappointing, I thought the vehicle can auto scan the virtual track marks by itself so the driver only needs to either speed up or slow down as if he's driving a tram. So, by the end of the day, it's just a bigger and longer bus.
I cannot read the captions on the video, but I don’t see how this differs from contactless guided bus systems which have operated elsewhere in the world. Am I missing something?
I'm from Ecuador and I'm developing a massive transportation service for a College proyect. This video safe my life, my proyect and my sleep time
Within my city, riding this kind of train is going to be bumpy AF.
So, a high-tech overglorified bus, marketed as some sort of future tram, but way more expensive, way less eficient and can get stuck in traffic, well done china.
The interesting part is that these carriages don't necessarily connected. They could be running by themselves and follow the lead carriage via wireless connection.
The guy said he going to research and development team for answers and he literally went. No cuts.
I was excited until I saw the steering wheel. I guess the technology is a bit further off
So they made a bus at the length of a tram and said it carries the same number of people as metro. So they’re basically making BRT system just with a tram mask on. Wow what an innovation.
So they’re basically making BRT system just with a tram mask on, that doesn't have any of the benefits of actually being a tram.
is what you mean
A solution for a better pattern of life, and a way to reduce pollution at the urban traffic, liked !
Not really, its basically a fake solution. The entire reason rail transport isn't as impactful on the enviroment is because of the decreased resistance of steel on steel, opposed to rubber on tarmac.
All this really was, was China pretending they have a solution with marketing things as something they are not.
its like driving long bus on the road...
It is an electrical bus, operated by battery..put it in simple term
Sure the second and third segments are SMARTLY doing exactly the same track of chiefcar, not simply being pulled
The only advantage of this transit is it can carry three times the passengers as an ordinary bus (or more depending on the compartments added by the bus company) and uses slightly less fuel per passenger. It is only useful for cities wanting to upgrade their existing bus fleet or thinking of procuring new buses. A new idea though, good China.
wasnt even really good tbf. The project got cancelled because the busses were found to be really dangerous
This basically looks like BRT but at the same times it looks like the combination of trolleybus and city trams. Maybe it just needs less space and project funds since it doesnt need tracks.
Key words: "Doesn't need tracks."
Overall, this is just a bus trying to be a tram, but then again has NO BENEFITS that come with actually being a tram, because the entire idea is that there is a lower amount of a resistance when on steel rails.
China always amaze me, Good job China. btw I'm an Indian
Doesn't the lack of rails cause a lot of tire wear?
Precisely. It is a bus that tries to be a tram, with all the negatives of being a bus and none of the positives of being a tram
A really good solution for middle sized cities that cannot afford a metro line but struggle with low bus capacity on the other hand. If this industry can produce affordable railbuses, I think that it will revolutionize our cities, since trams are static and much more expensive to build.
Or just build a tram line
@@CreatorPolar doesn't "since trams are static and much more expensive to build" tell you anything?
@@bingo737 but if your bus system is overcrowded then it’s time to invest into trams
@@CreatorPolar The video literally shows you that this bus can carry the same amount of people as trams.
@@bingo737 No, it can carry the same amount of people as the specific tram they have measured it against, which is rather small. The entire ideology of lightrail and tram transit systems is that the impact from steel-on-steel contact is far less resistant than rubber on tarmac. To put what I said simply, the entire reason trams are an actual benefactor for the enviroment is because when tires hit the road it causes tire wear.
Not to mention, these busses are battery operated, and not powered by overhead wires, ect. The carbon footprint used to construct these sort of lithium batteries is normally more impactful than a Deseil BRT overall. Lithium batteries are prone to fires with unknown causes and no warning. Lithium batteries will completely engulf whatever is in it, and they are extremely hard to put out in comparason to a regular fire.
Trams use far less power consumtion to move due to the fact that the friction caused from roads is far more than sturdy steel rail. Overall, this project was even embarrassing *for its timeframe,* being a glorified BRT that pretends to be a tram, having the negatives of being a bus, and a (battery powered [see previous paragraph on lithium batteries]) electric bus. Meanwhile, they do not gain any of the actual driving points for installing a lightrail or tram system in to an area.
Isn’t it just a big bus?? The driver is still steering.
Awesome!
not really...
You're literally re-inventing the bi-articulated bus, except that you're introducing the logistical and moral issues of a self-driving car.
It even looks identical to the Mettis Van Hool.
"Virtual tracks" are called a route. If this is meant to be permanent or something, you're better off with light rail. If it's meant to be flexible: use a bus.
This niche literally doesn't exist.
congratulations
Here in Sweden there are buses that look just like this.
I'd say its more of a tram than a bus...
What is the point of this? A driverless tram would be much more easy to run and to put into practice.
TheSweetsOfSin No rails or overhead lines have to be installed
Brilliant work
Brilliant work! You created a glorified BRT that pretends to be a tram, having the negatives of being a bus, and a (battery powered) electric bus, yet not having any of the actual economic and scale advantages of being a light rail or tram network.
This BUS will still be restricted to traffic speed in most cases. Most cities it would be too hard to dedicate room for this ,, and if they did they still could use existing bus transport on the same routs. just a fancy style that does the same thing.
India.Maharashtra . Nagpur also has this technology
Really cool
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I think that it isn’t a new bus technology, bus with virtual tracks exist since 2001 and in France. The city that uses this technology is Rouen and this buses are called teor ( transport est ouest rouennais i guess)
sooo basically a large bus that looks like a metro train?
Very nice! I like it!
That’s a bendy bus….. stop saying it’s a trackless train.
Designed in China by CRRC!
What an amazing explanatory video. Shame it's not voiced-over in some European language, 'cos I don't read Chinese.
Nicole K
it's have English subtitles, just check out
ESTE TRANVÍA ES EL QUE BOGOTÁ NESECITA
Nice left ear presentation
Everything fine, but one question. I saw moment that system is checking traffic in the road and drive by different road. This different road doesn't have vertical characters, so first why and what actually driver do in the bus.
Yeah that's also I wonder and it doesn't show how the bus or train back on track, I mean it has to reach the next stop right?
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Nice concept but will it work in the winter? Maybe you have to rely on Signal lines in the pavement...
The bus can also run on the road without signal line if need
It is funny the USA is still like an old fashion dinosaur with technology
what year will it be finished?
Very nice!
Kudo's , China today is what America was one hundred years a go, vibrant, idealist , hard working and looking toward the future.
The King Not really like what America was. I've been waiting for the bullet train to go from DC and NYC since 5th grade late 60's. The Mega City of DC/NYC/Boston still hadn't materialized (since the late 60's).
The King America is still delevoping.
I don't doubt it, we are developing corn, porn, tweeters, face book and stuff like that.
I would say less than 100 years behind. Even though the Space Shuttle is obsolete now... if we give you guys one, do try to keep up. =D
but2star not now but soon
The roadside sensors would be expensive alone. Best bet is to have all sensors for the vehicle ON the vehicle. Correct placement would allow it to detect curbs and other hazards.
Would be helpful to have captions or maybe audio
wonder ful.chaina is realy hard working country.idon't know how they do and manage challanges.
Just paint the route with 'white line' paint, loaded with iron filings?
No need, it has a driver.
They hate china, but I'm gonna ride this to school everyday, so happy.
Pakistan 👍❤️ China.
Brazil Love China.
So it’s a light rail train without the need for rails, that’s pretty cool. It just follows the stripped lines
Altough the main pont of lightrail is that it runs on rails which reduces friction and it is more silent and wastes less energy
So its a light rail train without the ACTUAL THING THAT MAKES IT WORTH INVESTING IN. The entire point of light rail is THE RAILS. thats what makes it worthwhile. This just results in the same form of rubber on tarmac we are used to.
how if the painted track loss ?
We could use something like this right here in NYC, where parts of our boroughs, other than Manhattan, are transit deserts.
Maybe the MTA ought to be looking at this type of transport as a complement to our existing buses, subways and rail roads.
You wouldn't want to and it's a good thing this project got shut down
Bro you have it now…. It’s called a bendy bus. Stop believing this is something new.
CIVIS IRISBUS 2004 - it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irisbus_Civis - The same optical guidance system was used on IRISBUS CIVIS, year 2004 in Bologna, Italy.
the plane has double wing system same with the bird.
jj liang. Why the need for Chinese media to lye about innovations when it’s clearly developing existing technologies?
Yeah basically the METTIS system but with the optical guidance like this: ua-cam.com/video/ZTWOny66dXs/v-deo.html
year 2009 Bologna (Boulogne Italy) Iris bus Optical guide test
ua-cam.com/video/VV1GSKyqf2g/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/SH1HREElvuA/v-deo.html
stefralusi why dont u just show us the patent document of that system? this propagana is world wide, not a joke. if u think the chinese have copied ur system, u can engage in law suite, ok? or ask the enteprise in the videos which u have shown, they could engage themselves in law suite. ok? by the way, even the system u show it looks like a COPY. dont u think so?
Is it available also as a toy?
Trolejbus na baterie . Fajna wizja. Tylko po co drzwi po obu stronach ? To nie pociąg .
Good, got the name right.
How does this thing get power/electricity? This is electric right? A tram gets power from overhead lines, what about this? If it has batteries what's the mileage before re-charge?
Coolest tram ever
Will this be in London one day in the future? 🤔
I thought the same thing for Turkey 🙋♂️
DoubleDeckerAnton this is just boo
That doesn't look a bus. It's probably a tram/light rail vehicle that runs on virtual tracks.
What’s the difference from using electric bus with restricted bus lane.
They're called trollies and still run in Philadelphia but on tracks, this is just the modern version.
Very nice
Follows a guided route but has a steering wheel? Okay
congrats for official launch 24th oct 2017. i may order one for our company from singapore to thailand express services.
I hope you didn't
This is just an articulated streetcar..
I thought of this design several years ago after the capacative rapid-charge busses I saw being trialed. All the advantages of both trams and electric busses without the rails or wires. Should be very low relative cost to install if they can use the new rapid-charge glass battery concept. A self-drive typre GPS/Lidar system working in conjunction with the optical sensors should help solve problem of snow/rain making road markings harder to read.
You clearly do not understand the benefits of trams, and the negatives of electric busses. I hope you don't make uneducated incorrect comments like this 4 years later.
Can it get a flat?
Do a burnout. Maybe a donut or two?
How much is each train of this type?
very interesting
Trams are old technology that initially used horses for power. This is the better alternative to a track tram transport system.
No it isnt this is bullshit
What happen with the recording?
Je rêve de ce système pour Brazzaville qui souffre tant de l'inconfort dans le transport public. Est-ce possible pour les pays au climat tropical humide?
How much? 😞
Anyone know the top speed of this vehicle?
Did anybody think about how auto drivers are gonna get confused with those rail markings looking so much like roadway lines.
what happen, when there is water or snow on the road?
cujoe Mblakk. The Dutch system Phileas had magnets instead of optical guidance. The main problem with guided busways is the wear and tear of wheel tracks, leading to the more expensive replacement of the road surface with concrete.
And how does the dutch system move?
Good question!
Same question applies low trams, buses, small cars when snowing or raining simple,, commuters here in Finland no one concern accident, derailment of trams and bus or car accident because here Scandinavian region people who working snow removal companies, workers who working icy road safety systems they adopted the techniques how to prevented accident of icy,snowing or raining condition roads,,,,in Scandinavian people adopt slip icy condition,, even they help with those techniques to America, UK, which have worst accident every winter many people die or injured
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It’s an bus! And on Tomonews US you can see the comments
my left ear enjoyed the video
I like the train but this video needs to be edited down.
Nice job, but I have a few questions:
1) how can a few hundred people fit in that thing??? It literally is a tram just without rails, it can’t have the capacity of a subway!
2) what if there is a traffic jam?? How will this be rapid if other motor vehicles are blocking it’s way?
3) I don’t speak Chinese, don’t start the video in English and then pass to Chinese
If it’s got no rails, it’s not a train
On wheels like a bus :-)
No, it’s stopped its operation... the wear and tear on the asphalt amongst one reason...
It's a track bus, but I guess, before the law it would be a tram.
A bus that looks like a tram. Is that it??
Yep
There are no rails! That’s called a bus. I’d replace the rubber tires with steel wheels, and then run it as an actual train. Switching would be done by metal barriers. Then all it would have to do is go forward.
Dude, this is meant to convert existing roads or building new dedicated asphalt roads in a short time! Not every country has a rail line but most have roads or can build one cheaply. Rail lines are very expensive to build !
@@Lobo-Lobo The reason they are expensive to build is because thats what actually makes trams and light rail efficient. This literally defeats the entire purpose of being a "bus tram"
How much ?
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This is literally just a driverless BRT system
This is slow for a train. Why not just have a bus?
so tram on wheels?
they saved tones of money on rail tracks but whatif there's a rush hour this thing will stuck
They should promote more mass tranportation like this one to reduce private cars on the street..
no sound! repeat uploading the video.
The idea is really interesting, I wanna see it on the testing stage soon.
Glad it never got there
@@DefaultMale_just started operations fee days ago in xi an China
@@zheng5724 no please tell me you're lying. This crap failed for a reason. Its a horrible idea.
so just a very long bus