Japan has a unique geography when it comes to its population centers. This train project may become the lifeblood of a one mega city in the future of Japan.
other countries in south east asia have the same predicament (650+ million people) in very dense population centers. if japan is building this until 2040, at which point those countries would be much more prosperous and more populous than now. this investment might actually pay off
@@wanitooo but the maglev project is 2-3 times higher than high speed railways. and even southeast asia country is "barely" afford to build highspeed railways
@@Fauzanarief-n7i thats true today, but 20-30 (which is maglevs development timeline) years from now, that wont necessarily be the case. South Korea, Singapore, and even Japan went from a back water to first world in a similar time frame. Im just speculating where japan could possibly export this technology
@@wanitooo but still, high speed rail is the more economical and efficient compare to maglev for southeast asia country. Right now, indonesia and laos are building high speed rail from china.
Side note: This train project is entirely funded by JR Central, who is one of the most profitable railyway company in Japan and in the world. They are capable of fully financing this project, therefore despite the enormous cost, since this is technically JR's private project, the government did not axe it.
I am a Japanese. I am all for this project no matter how expensive it may seem (for you, not for us). Even only 500km, this project connects 3 biggest population centers of this country. This new train will revolutionize how we work and travel between cities.
add the fact that your country has the highest debt to GDP ratio in the world and this project becomes way WAY too risky to currently undertake. You’re much better off just researching ways to work out your imminent economical collapse then focus on fast glorified oval magnets
Tokyo to Osaka in one hour would be a game changer. You could literally live in Osaka while keeping a job in Tokyo. That’s like living in Cincinnati but commuting to Chicago for work.
@@marioluigi9599 A lot of companies here subsidize your train fare, in fact it's kinda standard for all companies I've worked before. I work pretty far from central Tokyo (1hr commute) but don't have to spend a dime on commuting fares as that's subsidized by the company I work for. It's unlikely they'll subsidize the whole fare for this, but it should cut the price by a reasonable amount, and you can still save a bit more in the end due to lower rent prices when you live farther from Tokyo / Osaka like parts Nagoya. I even know someone who lives in Shizuoka and commutes to work to Tokyo in certain days of the week and work remotely in other days where a chunk of his fare is subsidized by the company via discount passes the company buys from the railway.
@@lasennui We're both on the same industry (IT) but we work at different companies, we're mostly online buddies. Remote work was easier to adapt due to that, some industries though isn't as open on the topic. Even at work I'm quite sure we could have no problems going 100% remote imo, but I still have to go to the office around 3 days a week as per policy (only 2 days remote). Then again I do like working at the office from time to time since it's more spacious than my apartment.
5:43 And that's the key sentence there. "Even faster than flying." With Maglev line Japan can reduce the amount of their polluting and noisy airplanes. Maglev will pollute only as much as the power plant the maglev requires to run. And if the Maglev uses only, for example, nuclear power, it produces zero CO2 emissions. At the same time airplanes are chugging through fuel amounts measured in METRIC TONS. That's a colossal difference in produced CO2 emissions: zero vs metric tonnes. And still people get to move around aaand faster than with plane.
Zero carbon emissions if you ignore the carbon put into the atmosphere for manufacturing said nuclear plants, the trains, the magnets and the new gen rails. Which is not zero at all but much better
1:05 When the Japanese first built their trains, everyone thought they were stupid for focusing on a dying mode of transportation. Now look at em. Do go for it again Japan. Build the world's fastest train again.
The Japanese have great advantages over Germany and so on a. they don't have to apologize for a hitler or colonial crime and thus take in millions of illiterate people, migrants, refugees and islamists. b. islam + koran book is forbidden in japan and only practicable to a limited extent. c. cause of a. and b. japan is capable to full focus on its own population / culture / customs.
@@ElectronicHouseFlash lol both of those are lies you can’t even have your xenophobia boner based on reality, like japan not apologizing for crimes you probably see as justified against less worthy Asians huh…
@@ElectronicHouseFlash You just highlighted why Japan should be ashamed of itself since their warcrimes are arguably worse than the Nazis, but they pretend like it didn't happen. Being a culture so ashamed of itself and its past that it still can't face history is not an advantage. Highspeed rail being successful in Japan has nothing to do with this weakness of Japanese psyche.
As much as I want them to build it, the things is their existing bullet train infrastructure is very well proven and present almost non-existent cons. So it's understandable why the concern exist especially considering the cost to build is way higher, more significant energy consumption and carry lesser passengers. My 2 cents ...
@@Number1FanProductions You can put your newfangled youth slang "Xenophobia" somewhere else. The fact is that Political Islam is very dangerous. It doesn't belong in countries like Japan or the whole of the West. The Koran book forbids Muslims to conform completely. Islam forbids Muslims to conform to western values and laws. But he can pretend. I wish all Muslim countries peace and that the West stays out of it, every Muslim should have the right to practice his religion to the fullest in his country. But please not in the West, where the values do not fit in and where the Constitution / laws of the West do not comply with Sharia at all. To Japan: Do not build mosques, just let non-extremist Muslims in and continue to ban the Koran.
Mustard is kinda like that one uncle who rarely shows up to any gatherings unless not expected, but when he does, he always has an amazing story and is the centre of everyone’s attention.
As a daily commuter I can tell you that even a 5min improvement in traveling each way is a massive improvement meaning almost an hour a week longer at home with family.
@@Anksh0usRacing Huh, so I guess you value your free time at approximately $240 an hour. I mean if you're rich then sure, but if you're only moderately well off then that's just a waste of money.
@@goldenfloof5469 to play the devil's advocate Time is money, but money won't turn back the clock The 5 minutes saved can be helpful when you ran into an unforseen event that cost you 5 minutes in time
@@SM-cq1mm yes. Time is money. And most people waste their time, while also willing to spend more money to save an hour of time, than they make at work for an hour of their time. So when is an hour worth $100-200? My time doing work gets me about $200 an hour. But I work for myself. And I can’t work 40 hours a week at that same rate. So me saving some time doesn’t really matter. It’s all relative really, and I don’t believe most people are capable of actually rationally figuring out these things for themselves. Most people aren’t even capable of realizing that they are trading an hour of their life, for a specified amount of money, and that when you buy something, you are in fact trading your life for that something. That new iPhone is worth an entire week of a persons life. And yet some will waste an hour on the phone, to save $10. People are irrational with time and money. My favorite example of irrational monetary thought is the study that concluded more individuals would spend $10 on a theater ticket if they had just lost a $10 bill than if they had to replace a lost ticket worth $10
"It is going to cost 5.5x as much as the original shinkansen." Well that's still way cheaper than the California HSR for a much higher quality transit system.
@@tvthecat I'm a fanboy? Do you speak English? Have you not ever before heard the phrase "shitting the bed"? Can your read beyond a sixth-grade level? Because my aforementioned post clearly indicates that I think Hyperloop will shit the bed.
Might end up being the Concord of trains though, much faster than the Shinkansen but way more expensive and less energy efficient at a time when the world is looking to go green
It's still a stupid project....cost a lot and not as efficient as other railways like TGV for example. We are in the green, efficiency direction...this project goes the other way.
Another thing that prevented the Transrapid from continuing production in Germany was a big crash close to my home turf in Lathen where a Transrapid line crashed into a maintenance car at 162 km/h. 23 people, including my uncle, died in that crash and it halted the innovation in Germany, which is sad because all my uncle would've wanted to see is the Transrapid finishing development. Nowadays the only remaining pieces are the 32km of test track running through our Crops.
Very sorry for your loss. From my understanding the crash was due to human error, that a maintenance train was on the main line Maglev track at the wrong time. If that were the case then I dare say we shouldn’t give up on the technology. The train didn’t completely derail. And while these projects are pricey, Maglev promises to be much cheaper to maintain compared to traditional high speed rail so you will save money in the long run. I would hope that the devastating crash that occurred on the Transrapid test track doesn’t completely tarnish this idea of high speed Maglev. In a post pandemic world, we’re gonna need technology like this in the 21st century.
@@CKLee-rs4kl Hey that's exactly what I think about Eugenics, brilliant idea, they could have been (could still be with the use of gene editing) the key to better genetics and less diseases and disorders just better health overall.
@@antimatter_nvf am land warscheunlich, wenn du in österreich am land wohnst bist auch ziemlich am arsch, busse fahren 2x mal täglich zur schule zurück auch nur 2, bahnhöfe gibts kaum
“Everyone knew it was impossible, until a fool who didn’t know came along and did it.” Progress isn't made by clinging to the old and tinkering on it. It's made by continuously experimenting and trying new things.
Then China came along, stole everything and then credits themselves for all the hard work, just like many project in China, all credits of Chinese and lots of time failed to even mentioned the foreigner companies they hired to do all the planning and such. It's always profitable when you steal everything and not spend a single dime on Research and Development to get there.
@@wingi91 and DEFLECT back to US despite you can see every cheap knock off in China now. Just like Gunpowder or all invention in past Imperial China, who invented them? Someone's else did, then Imperial's officials came along, force transfer to Imperial Chemist or whatever and then make it sounds like Imperial Court actually did. Why gunpowder in China only stay at firework and nothing beyond that? You ever think about it?
I think the maglev should be compared with energy consumption of flight between the cities. It cuts the travel speed to less than flying, thus people, who usually fly will probably choose the maglev instead. As long as it doesn't replace the conventional high-speed rail, the effect could be overall positive to emissions
@@spartan117zm Although it should be clarified that maglevs compete with short and medium-haul flights. Planes are still ideal for long and ultra-long haul flights.
@@spartan117zm I mean, one of the main reasons JR are doing this is because there is pretty much no capacity left on the Shinkansen line, and no capacity left to increase the capacity. They need a new line.
@@tams805 also very true, I wish he would’ve clarified this a bit more in the video, because so many people commenting seem to think it’s supposed to compete with the traditional services.
You’re talking about it as though it’s intended to replace high speed rail, but I think it’s more to compliment it. A lot of the passengers on the high speed rail line will not be going between Osaka and Tokyo, but likely between one of those places and the many destinations along the existing high speed line. I think this new mag lev is to help both compliment and reduce congestion on the existing high speed line. Through this; I think investing in it makes sense.
The rail outside of the Shinkansen lines is still slow. If you are going outside of the high speed routes, it takes time to go there, but it will get you there reliably.
Being able to travel between the 3 mayor cities of your country in 67 minutes of travel is mind boggling. Where I live sometimes it takes me an hour to travel 35 km due to traffic.
@@ieditedmyname289 cars are better for large rural areas* The whole point of a city is having a denser amount of people. Owning a car basically doubles the amount of space you occupy
Babe, wake up. We're already a dead meme. We've been overtaken by the "a wise man once said" group and surprisingly the "I never clicked so fast" people are making a resurgence. What are we going to do?!? I know... 3.7 Roentgens...not terrible, not great! First!
As someone who's working with maintenance of traditional trains, I am all for this. I don't think people in general have any idea how many break pads, wheelsets, break disks, gear boxes, shock absorbers, etc we change each year. Not sure what the maintenance costs of the maglevs are like, but I guess train tickets would be cheaper if there were less mechanical stress on the bogie and traction systems.
China has been operating a 468kph maglev since 2002... They have a lot of data... 20 years worth.. The guy in this video said "unproven technology"... Not sure why he chose that... But ya. Maglev is legit, it works, and works well.
Yes absolutely. The only big advantage that can compensate on the long time the higher construction costs and energy consumption is the lower maintenance cost, but the difference is not so big as it might appear, at least at the present time.
idk man, this kind of electromagnetic technology is extremely expensive and is still not entirely understood. Maybe the overtime costs could be justified eventually.
@@_tsu_ there are already literal tonnes of power electronics in a modern locomotive and have been for the past 30 years. Of course it's not cheap to build, but honestly the latest generations of IGBT power converters are very reliable and doesn't require much maintenance at all.
Large project financed by the government like this is also a great way to boost the economy and advanced technologies industry. Something Japan can surely benefit from.
The Maglev is all privately funded by the Central JR Corporation, a publicly traded company. The only government funds coming into play are for the extension to Osaka. The Osaka government did not like being told to wait, so offered additional loans for the extension to occur earlier.
Japan “government”.... keep changing hands in terms of political leadership, which government would spend such amount where they do not think they can reap the benefits or getting the credit. As Japan’s development over the years have concentrated on Tokyo & Osaka the north east, north west & south west are much neglected/ignored, and hence such train routes are will not serve business travellers and mainly serves for tourists, which I think will be hard to recover investment cost.
Showing the metropolitan area population of the three cities would have made more sense. It’s less like connecting London to Birmingham and Manchester and more like connecting three areas the size of London x 4, London and London x 2.
@@teakangel3683 - Terrorists can blow up sporting events, shopping malls, movie theaters, nightclubs, skyscrapers, etc. So I don't understand your point.
I think the primary benefit of the maglev is the ability to better compete with air travel and open up longer distance routes. Over distances currently optimal for hrs, maglev’s benefits are minor, but for longer distances, maglevs can be a more comfortable, convenient and environmentally friendly alternative to air travel.
It's not likely that this will compete with air travel in any significant way. Planes are still much faster than the maglevs and cost much less over longer distances, primarily because air is free while tracks are quite expensive. If it were to compete with air travel, it would win over shorter distances but lose to longer distance routes due to being much more expensive than planes with longer distances.
@@thecommeldore3416 Existing high speed rail is already competitive with air travel, so I don't see why maglev wouldn't compete. Also, your analysis ignores the difference between operating and capital expenses
@@junelawson5719 High speed rail is only competitive with air travel over shorter distances, the longer it gets the more planes become a viable option. I don't really need to cover capital and operating expenses with my argument, the difference between the two doesn't matter, they both make trains more expensive over longer routes. Another problem with the maglev besides air travel is that there isn't really any meaningful need for it. It's just like the concorde but with trains.
@@thecommeldore3416 People were harping this same shit when the Shinkansen was first being built, then it put their airlines out of business or in the red. But I'm sure you know far more about this topic than the people designing and planning it for decades and long before you were born. Please tell me more, o' wise one.
I had the priviledge of riding on the Shinkansen from Tokyo to Osaka. Smoothest train ride ever, and also the most comfortable train cabin ever. The technology behind it is insane as well.
When I lived in Japan in the early 90s, one of my English students was a designer for the shinkansen system. He used to say they could have even faster trains if they could build enough straight track. As it was, you had to either go around mountains (Japan is ALL mountains) or through the mountain. Tunneling is expensive and you also had to deal with "tunnel pop" where air pressure would build up in front of a speeding train causing drag and a huge "pop/boom" when it exited the tunnel disturbing anyone living nearby. I figured that with the SCMaglev being 80% underground they might vacate some of the air to lower the drag. But maybe not...
Curvature is such a huge factor with any high speed rail/roadway design. Wondering if some energy could be recovered from the displaced air btw, maybe a storage tank and turbine of some sort~?
Japan is an amazing country. Their education, respect to others, culture, food, architecture, history, technology, people... I strongly recommend to visit this amazing country at least once in life.
I will say though that their work culture drives many to deep depression and even self deletion, so that could really use a change. PS I went to Japan in 2018, it was amazing ;)
You know nothing of Japan. They're extremely racist and treat their people poorly. If you're overweight, they send you to the doctor to be put on a diet or you get fined. The censorship is extreme and many Japanese men commit suicide. Your dumbass is probably an American Democrat.
See if Japan is still an amazing country in 10 years. If you lived in Japan you would know you were deceived by making an image of 🇯🇵by the Japanese government. They are the biggest liars media and the government. Do not eat Japanese food which contains huge amount of radiations. They are still working very hard to trick you and world. Do your research by yourself. You will find out something. I am not trying to ruin your memory. I am just telling you the truth. Believe or not.
@@usu336 Um, you are right to be a bit sceptical, Japan definitely has a lot of issues including insane work hours, bureaucracy, racism, and sexism. But huge amount of radiation in the food? I would love a source on this.
My father went to Japan 1989 to 1993 from the Philippines as a construction worker. He worked for one of the construction firms specializing in steel girder installations, Road pavement. Their company was partially involved in the construction of some section of these train tracks.. he often told me about how high tech and remarkable this particular project and will watch this from a distance how fast they can go he said. Sounds magical for 9yrs old kid back in late 80s,still are today!
I’m Korean and once visited Japan and used Shinkansen bullet train in Japan. It was extremely clean inside and quiet and never shaking at all and it was very comfortable ever in any transportation I used in my life. I actually bit jealous about how Japan is ahead of our society. Korea copied many things from Japan but actually quality of everything is way less and cheaper versions of Japan.
I'm actually surprised I would read this from a Korean, very honest. I've been to Korea multiple times and what I always hear from my misinformed Korean friends is that Japan copied alot from Korea like the 붕어빵 (bungeoppang) even though I knew it was from Japan way before it was sold anywhere else, I just kept quiet.
I really appreciate your honesty. Because as a Korean, you are heaping praises on Japan. I wish there are more Koreans like you who values the truth and moves away from conflicting with Japan. Japan and S. Korea are the only like minded countries in East Asia to counter Chinese aggression.
The whole world could learn quite a few things from Japan when it comes to infrastructure, transport, and services. But still, Korea is worthy of jealousy too in my opinion. Though I've spent less time in Korea than I'd like, it was enough for me to say "I wish we had this at home". It was very convenient getting around the country with absolutely no need for a car or taxi. The public transport was clean and on time, and people were more than willing to help a lost European traveller. Being a tourist in Korea, Japan, and Taiwan is one of my most treasured experiences in my life, nowhere else have I felt so welcome, safe, and happy.
@@GCS88 bruh his not really korean, the korean always hate japan they always complain about "how japan has 29 nobel prize winner while Korea only has 1 Korean are better race than japan but why we lose"
What I've gathered from this is that if this attempt at a Maglev railway system fails, it'll definitely be utilized off-world in Moon/Mars colonies way off in the future, since all the "old infrastructure" won't exist.
depends on how heavy the weaker moon magnets for rails are. im not an expert but its pretty dang important to save weight when launching cargo into space.
@@arenio by the point of having enough human presence to warrant mass transit on such scale, we'll be already sourcing most materials and processing them locally.
The most important thing mentioned in this video, is that bullet train has enormous capacity to carry passengers. More passengers - > less operating cost per single ride (economy of scale). Economy of scale proved itself through history to be critical for sustainability in the long term. On first glance, maglev reminds me of concorde. Super fast, but limited with capacity raised cost per ticket and become economy unsustainable. Edit: Maybe long term operating cost will be lower, due to "frictionless" way of operating. (Tracks will last longer?).
I would not compare the Maglev to other Trains but to Planes. You can get the same amound of people by electrical rail from one city center to another without spending fuel. You also dont need an airplane (i guess the Maglev is similar expensive then a plane),no airport outside the city in a packed nation like japan where free space is sacred, easier to use and faster overall.
Yeah but the difference with rail is once the infrastructure is there it’s there. Even if they later regret building the line it will almost certainly still be economically viable to run it.
The line is going to have less capacity than the Toukaido line for sure, but it's still a mass transportation system. In most countries, trains with a few hundred passengers running every ten minutes would be considered a high capacity system. Most Shinkansen lines also run a lot less traffic than the Toukaido lines without being luxury services like Concord was. I think it's a difference of degree.
I actually think that building a new maglev through the mountains is probably the most sensible way to meet the rising transport needs on that corridor. Even though the Japanese population is shrinking, the big cities are still growing. The JR companies are going to need more service between Tokyo and Osaka, or they're going to lose market share to the airlines. The Toukaido line has no capacity left for more traffic, so they need new capacity. Expanding the existing line with new tracks would be very expensive since it runs through extremely build up areas, and probably inefficient since the extra trains will interfere with each-other to an extent. I believe the least expensive way to provide a meaningful increase in capacity is to build a completely new line through the mountains. Yes, tunnelling costs a lot of money, but it's probably cheaper than buying land and doing constructing in an area as dense as the Toukaido corridor. It also saves all the delays and headaches of dealing with all the people who don't want to move for a new train. That stuff is always ugly. Once you decide to build a new line through the mountains, going for maglev just makes sense. It's going to be very expensive either way, and most of the cost is the tunneling, not the tracks or the trains. It doesn't make sense to build a hugely expensive series of tunnels and then cheap out on the trains you put in them. If the project is going to cost that much and be that risky, they might as well go all in because if it works the system won't just transport people, it will change the whole structure of those cities and the way people live, and provide significant boost the whole Japanese economy. IF it works. Big risk, but I think it's better than spending almost as much money building a slightly shorter double for the Toukaido line just to maintain the status quo.
Let’s not forget if built this maglev could act as a secondary escape route should a devastating earthquake knock out parts of the existing Tokaido Shinkansen, which is almost 60 years old and I’m sure ready for major upgrades.
The real question is the capacity. Tnough, i doubt japan would invest such money into a lane thats 10-20% the capacity of shinkensen. They probably have a solution for that.
@@vitas75 It's more like 30%, which is no small number given how busy the Toukaido line is, and that assumes they're never able to decrease headways in the future. That's probably more people than most high speed lines in most countries carry. It's still equivalent to a jumbo jet every 5 minutes or so!
Also, I've been told that in Japan by law they cannot force private land owners to sell it they don't want to which again would speak for the mountain road.
But I'm wondering, if the majority is tunnels already anyway, why not make it all one big vacuum tube? Then the issue of air resistance is solved. Not sure how that would work though but isn't Elon already working on a solution?
I should note, the population of Tokyo itself is a little over 13 million. The metro area around Tokyo displayed in the video, which includes cities like Yokohama and Kawasaki, is over 30 million people! Also, though the Chuo Shinkansen (name of the line) is proposed to cruise at 500 km/h (approx. 310 mph), in April 2015, the train reached speeds of 590 km/h, and a week later, 610 km/h (375 mph). So the actual cruising speed of the train may increase. The test track, where they are testing speeds and offering tourists an experience to ride the SC Maglev, is part of the Chuo Shinkansen track. So eventually they will simply connect the main track to the test track and complete the project.
But without the "choo choo" trains, there would be no high-speed ones. This is similar to a stairway : to get to the ultimate one, you have to walk every single of them all.
@@grahamstevenson1740 I didn't mean the 1970 only, but referred to other times... the ones that led to what railways currently are. Then you seem to consider only the "western" side of the World. But spend some time in India or Sénégal (as I did for many years), and you surely will broaden your field of view. From Dakar to Saint-Louis du Sénégal, the train ride usually lasts 6 hours. But sometimes up to 7 or 8 hours if a sand storm occurs or cattle settles on the tracks. Distance is 250 kilometers... have a think about it ! In other countries, electric tractors are a dream but steam machines are the norm. The World is larger than your eyes can see... try to think larger. 😇
@@gillesmatheronpro There was a new rail line completed recently in Iran, I believe that uses electric traction. Railways in China and Japan are mostly electric. Russia has, I believe completed electrification of the trans-Siberian route. Any traction OTHER than electric makes sense only where the railways are cash/investment starved which accounts for most of the steam locomotives and a lot of the older diesel types and where a line is either very, very long with limited traffic (USA mainly)and indeed where traffic is too light to justify the cost of the electrical infrastructure.
1. It's up to 600km. 2. A mega region of 65 million people in total. 3. In addition to the benefits you've mentioned, it'll replace some numbers of the operated trains as Hikari, which has the fewest stops compared to the rest of the two, thus the number of the operated trains as the others will increase, meaning it'll benefit those living between the three cities. Edit: Hikari is not the one that has the fewest stops but Nozomi is the one. Thanks, Farouk Talbi!
For point 3, do you think JR Tokai will add a new line dedicated to the Chuo Shinkansen ? As far as I know, there's Nozomi which is the fastest and the most available line, Hikari which has a 30 min interval and has more stations and finally Kodama with the Shinkansen stopping at all stations. I assume a new line name is better since the Chuo Shinkansen is totally different than the Tokaido Shinkansen
@@farouktalbi863 First things first, I'm not a shinkansen or tetsudo otaku but I've just known about the Chuo Shinkansen aka "linear motor car" (Japanglish) since I was a kid as it is such a big project for the country but also featured in the expo 2005, which I visited when I was a kid. As far as I could find on the internet, it presumably is. Apparently, when they estimated how much it would cost to operate and maintain the shinkansen, they expected two lines, the one that has the fewest stops, and the one that stops at every station. On top of that, the stations between the starting and the last station (are planned to) have two platforms and four tracks (the half for the Tokyo-bound and the other half for the Osaka-bound), which means two shinkansens can wait there while other two shinkansens (the faster line) pass that station, at most. Oh and yeah Hikari isn't the one that has the fewest stops but Nozomi, as you said. My bad
I think this train will be a success, maybe not immediately but in the long run it will. The reason why I think this is that it will not compete against other trains, but against airplanes.
investing in public transport always makes sense. I'm glad MagLev makes a return, especially when it can replace planes. I live close to the MagLev Transrapid train testing ground in Germany - I even got to ride it before the crash & decommissioning. It's an amazing ride experience - absolutely smooth, you just feel the acceleration. The german system didn't even have wheels - they'd float of the track when the doors close.
I think it's shame that Mr Mustard only compared it to bullet trains and not short haul planes. Then MAG-LEV trains really make sense, since electrified planes have a loooong way to go.
not always, in japan you might get groped, but in the us, it would be so much worse. and now with high speed internet, as the rona proved, its questionable to commute for a great many jobs.
ICE goes with 300km/h and compatible with the existing infrastructure. Combining with recently expanding NightJet service, train is much more comfortable than planes for me within Europe.
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@@dew9103 It does not make sense to go much faster than 35. Remember at present, there are Two .8 mile lengths going two ways, with a stop somewhere mid length. 35 mph means a minute or two between stops. That seems like a reasonable pace. When the system is expanded with longer stretches between stops then the cars/autonomous pods should go faster to save time. There are 14 miles of tunnels planned with 40 stops. If a trolley type subway were used then you might have to stop at every station along the way during periods of high volume use. With pods at 35 (faster than most trolleys I have ridden BTW) you would still make better progress without the required stopping which comes with sharing a trolley.
As others have commented, when the Japanese were building their first Bullet Train systems, they received a lot of criticism. Those critics eventually had to dine on _crow,_ with some _humble pie_ for dessert. IF the Japanese can pull off this *SCMAGLEV* system, well, *CRITICS --> GRAB YOUR FORKS!* 😊😊😊
Yep, and because all they see is the cost of making them. Forgetting the long term benefit it gave us. Bullet train were criticised, yet they build so much and it work so well on them made travelling around the country way easier and faster. Yet they think we need more freeways and cars that are still restricted by speed limit anyways. And the cost to maintain them is also enormous but made the city less livable due to them except on certain pockets of the city as a freeway destination.
Americans don't understand anything except 'profit'. They fail to comprehend the economic benefits which any rail service brings to a region. That's why their whole country runs on gas guzzling cars.
In my opinion, maglev trains like SCMagley have much more benefits than Hyperloop - safer, easier to built and operate, more passenger capacity, more realistic.
The Shinkansen made me a believer in high speed rail. I would choose it over flying any day of the week even if the flight is cheaper. No bullshit check in and baggage nonsense just show up before the train leaves and your good.
Yeah because its japan, people in america would be bringing guns and b0mbs to the trains and making all sorts of bad stuff, if shinkansen trains lines ever happen in america, they will need to have airport like security...
@@AtomicBoo That's a great point! We already have problems with distraught people parking their cars on train tracks to commit suicide, or kids jumping on tracks for a variety of dumb reasons.
Thanks for making a honest video. I really appreciate how you pointed out both the advantages and problems, and how you left the judgement of whether the SCMaglev will be sucessful or a failure intentionally open.
I have watched your first Shinkansen video and it inspired me to develop a epic documentary about the entire history of the Shinkansen. I have found so much of the history much more wild than imagined. I intended to discuss the earliest talks in the late 1930s and eventually the SC Maglev. I thoroughly enjoy your coverage of the Chuo line and I would love to someday talk in the future about the whole SC Maglev program. I have had a hard time finding information about the earliest tests and even one train. So far, I have it in 5 episodes in terms of the script and information. I hope maybe we can collaborate in the future. I know I am not very well known, but I recently graduated cinema from SF State and I hope to put a footstep in the door with this series. If you manage to read this comment, I appreciate the look. Nicholas
@Favel Konefka. But conventional rail is a replacement for cars, maglev makes the most sense replacing short distance flights, because they move faster than small planes and even a large plane that moves 2x as fast takes longer to go 700 miles when you factor in all the shitty hoops they make you jump through at the airport. Isn't that insane? AND, maglev will never stop for a tropical storm, or blizzard. Maglev is also SO much more comfortable than any other mode of transportation. Bar none, absolutely no competition.
I hope it pans out well because this is just a really cool train. The superconducting technology is probably the most valuable part of this project as it allows us to do all sorts of neat stuff.
Exactly, you know how people go to ice skate now? Well with superconducting getting better, cheaper, and more accessible, we might be hover skating in the future
Japan tested different animal noses to see which was the most aerodynamic and the platypus won, that’s why Japan’s newer trains are shaped like that :)
Its because Japan built tunnels which don’t reduce pressure waves due to being built in the 60s, so unlike other trains, it all comes down to the shape of the nose
SCMaglev is targeting businessmen traveling in Green car, so the capacity don't need to be that high. Just like Concord was actually profitable in the tail end of it's service life, selling all business class seats. Considering N700A usually have 16-cars (4 are First Class Green Car, which have 4 seats per row), the Maglev can only carry a fraction of people than a N700A, but at same time carrying almost the same amount of Green class seats.
Actually incorrect. All N700-based trains have 5 seats per row in all ordinary class carriages except the N700-7000 and N700-8000 variants, those have 5 seats per row in non-reserved ordinary class only. The only Shinkansen trains which had 6 seats per row were JR-East E1 & E4 double-decker trains in the upper deck of the non-reserved ordinary class carriages.
Equally to the above point, the maglevs aren’t designed to compete with the Shinkansens, they’re designed to compete with aircraft, most of which (for the same route) will have lower seating capacities than the maglevs will.
@@icars98 Apologies I must be confused, last time I had been in Japan was 2008. Anyway, the point is: SC Maglev is targeting businessmen traveling in Green Class, not replacing Shinkansen. Which it have more than enough capacity for those.
Japanese train travels 450km in 67mins while me in Australia is waiting for the damn train to arrive after being 15 minutes late then waiting another 65 minutes for the train to travel 45km
That's 80 minutes at 0kmh before beginning to ride at 45kmh probably not exactly where you want to go. That doesn't count the time to drive and park (or walk or taxi) to the departure station. Using a new device called a private car, I and my family can in that 80 minutes travel 150km directly from my house toward my destination with no exchange of transit device. When I get there I have a transit device at my disposal for use and return at any time I wish.
@@STho205 dawg just a guess but I’d assume if he’s willing to do all that tedious shit for a slow ass train that regular commuting may be out of reach in his circumstance(think remote terrain without roads) or something, I’m not a mind reader neither are you :)
@@STho205 when someone who’s smart realises a 14 year old cannot drive. thank you for being a big brain. Also your math is very much wrong if you take into consideration if the train was running on time it’d be a 65 minutes trip from a - b. Also must consider stopping at other station , rail works etc. Mind you all your data is incorrect stated. The distance was 45km not speed
The funny thing about taking the bullet train vs flying from Osaka to Tokyo and vice-versa is that the bullet train is actually quite often more expensive. That being said, it's also far more convenient. To get to Kansai Airport in Osaka can take 2 hours depending where you are coming from in the city. The same goes for Narita airport in Tokyo. Not to mention the time spent waiting in the airport, going through security checks, boarding the aircraft and the actual flight itself. For the bullet train though, you can get to either Shin-Osaka station or Tokyo Station in under an hour from almost anywhere within their respective cities, and boarding the trains can be done in just a couple of minutes. Then it's an easy 2 and half hour ride with SO MUCH LEG ROOM! If anyone is ever traveling between Tokyo and Osaka, I highly recommend the bullet train. And as someone who lives in Osaka and semi-regularly takes the bullet train to Tokyo, I have to say this new SCMaglev is very exciting! I'm sure tickets will be expensive, but you know I've gotta try it out for myself when it's finished! A roughly 60 minute ride to Tokyo blows my mind!
Yeah, going to the Moon was extremely expensive, but the new technologies that had to be developed to solve the issues have been used in so many areas since then, that it paid off several times. I think that Maglevs are expensive now, but there is a lot to learn and improve upon and bringing people together and reducing travel times will have a lot of economical benefits as well. There is a lot of ways to waste money in much less effective ways than technological development.
Japan is a country that won't stop in advancing in technology and I don't see it stopping any time soon it's good to know that a country that's humble and nice just wants to upgrade for the the good of humanity and to also give the world more research on our way to the next generation of humanity the space age thank you Japan thank you so much p.s I also love the anime keep it up Love from a filipino
6:10 “superconductivity increases magnetic force”. No, it does not. At equal current in a coil of the same shape the force will be equal, regardless of whether the coil is superconductive or not. What superconductivity allows is to use greater current without having to worry about losses. No loss means no power needed to keep the magnet running apart from the cooling system to maintain superconductivity.
@@chrisi7127 superconductive magnets don't make the magnets stronger per amount of electricity, but rather allow them to consume more electricity than conventional magnets, making them able to reach higher magnetic forces
superconductivity allows the magnets to be nearly frictionless, while also consuming electricity at a much more efficient rate. These factors combined can increase speed and magnetic force while keeping the position of the magnets in an extremely stable state relative to the track
Decades ago they said high speed rail would not be worth the time and money, but it payed off and was a huge success. Now they’re saying that maglev trains are not worth the time and money, but I think this could be a great idea and could help decongest rail stations and bring people form different cities closer together.
It will definitely be worth it. With the conventional high speed line, you will have a bit less planning to do, especially in the beginning when there aren't going to be trains every ten minutes, but connecting cities together faster and with less bullshit than planes is worth it, even if you outpace the plane only by a minute.
I think the biggest hurdle is the need for a whole new type of rail. That means you're either expanding the existing track footprint, which is a huge pain in built-up areas, or you're trying to build a whole new track across someone's land, which is functionally a new wall several hundred miles long. The Chuo Shinkansen drilling through a bunch of mountains was expensive and increases energy use, but it definitely dodged some difficult land use issues in the process. That *might* be a slightly smaller issue in the US, where the rail network is optimized for cargo instead of speed anyway, but the longer runs between American cities tend to make aircraft more desirable anyway.
@@AubriGryphon That's true. For the US, I see maglev as a great way of going between cities in the same state. I also think that, as prices come down over the next decade, maglev could be an excellent replacement for domestic flights.
The SCMaglev line and Japan's conventional high speed rail serve two entirely different purposes. The conventional high speed rail is a way to serve demand, and increase passenger capacity. The SCMaglev on the otherhand, is an attempt to *induce demand*. Japan is counting on the train to create new commuters from Tokyo, Nagoya, and Osaka. In doing so, push for wider economic revitalization.
@@duskshel8119 I swear to Christ, the people on this website. *Trying to link your 3 economic hubs is a good idea.* Building infrastructure is a good idea. If it is easier to do business, the business will get done. It's not like the government is investing in web domain urls. What bubble would this make? Furthermore, Japan's economic growth wasn't a bubble. The Japanese automotive industry is still one of the most prominent in the world. And last I checked, Japanese appliances and electronics are still being sold around the world. Japan's economic woes are from deflation and debt. Austerity will just destroy the economy, they need tangible investments to revitalize the economy.
@@HeckaLives No, its not a good idea if its just an idiotic vanity project like in this case. Building a line for commercial use will not revitalize the economy. And Japanese economic growth was fueled entirely by asset prices speculation. This is why the bubble burst in 1990, and Japan has been in stagnation/recession ever since. Deal with the facts, its golden era has ended literally over 3 decades ago.
Well the HSR was also at first counting on induced demand, that's what all new infrastructure projects are based on since y'know there can't be demand for something that does not yet exist.
As a german, hearing that 3 huge cities are connected by just 67 minutes shocked me. That's like the delay that our Deutsche Bahn trains have, and that'd be fast 🪦
China feels like a country where this would literally kick there economy into overdrive. Imagine you can live far outside shanghai but still work there without waiting idk 4 hours to get home. That would make the large amount of housing not used in china usable and an option for someone working in shanghai but doesnt wanna have to pay the extreme high cost of living there. All that real estate would be available to a whole new pool of people. It would also make ut possible for people studying there to not have to worry about housibg because they can go home to there family home
It would transform countries with large amounts of unused land like China and Russia. It would also radically improve the economy of countries like Mexico that rely heavily on megacities (like Mexico city).
@@Deadlyaztec27 exactly any country that has a large area compared to the rest where education wealth and jobs are available but the transportation or housing is limited would benefit.
@@pearodox Why? You afraid of China or something? This could positively impact the lives of more than a billion people. You may dislike the government, but there’s no reason not to want good things for the people of China.
HSR will see a major explosion once room temperature superconductors are figured out. Maglev’s issue right now is that the rails require supercooling which is expensive and inefficient
china and japan are in a competition like the west was with sky scrapers, they're all seeing who can make the fastest train in the world. They're barely edging each other out. Japan had the title for a few years reaching 603km/h and now china just unveiled a model that is supposed to go 620km/h and the best part is, the cabins are properly pressurized, no noise or vibration, and no jarring turbulence, potholes or bumps in the track because you're levitating! You also don't have to deal with tsa, it's quick and easy to get on and off the trail, so even if the ride takes 2 hrs longer to travel 800 miles, you still end up with a station to station time that is equal, or in the maglev's favor in terms of speed, let alone the comfort differences. It's a really surreal experience.
Imagine travelling under the earth surface with maglev with enormous speed, reaching the other end of an country or even better between countries just about an hour.
As mustards first project looking to the future, I’m glad to see a somewhat optimistic yet tempered view of the project. I hope this is one Mustard’s videos to chronicle a interesting technological advancement. And not a unusual step in the wrong direction.
Keeping those superconducting magnets cooled sustainably is the project’s greatest challenge. Tunnels exacerbate the problem, requiring constantly running fan plants spaced every 5km, including in stations. A power outage will fully shut down operations and could severely damage the cooling components mounted on the trains and guideways.
This seems to be really the first serious maglev train. The tunnels are longer than the entire tracks of other existing maglevs in China and Korea. Also unlike the Hyperloop it actually works.
To put this into perspective, the Tokaido Shinkansen was estimated to cost $1 billion in 1964. Roughly $9B in today’s dollars. Meanwhile the California High Speed Rail is currently estimated to cost somewhere between $80-100 billion. Up from the initial estimate of $33 billion. The Rail in Hawaii (not even high speed and 20 miles long) was estimated to cost $5B and to be completed in 2019. It’s now currently costing $16B and won’t be fully complete until 2031. So the Chuo MAGLEV costing about $50B (5.5x cost of the 1964 Tokaido line) is quite the bargain.
the problem you forget is that in the western world the rule is, throw enough money at things and they maybee will work if not then nowone cares. in japan the rule is throw money only if every penny is really needed not throw away money for nothing, they know what they are doing and insteat throwing endless amounts of money on it and hope it will work they take the money they need and work with it too the maximum posible. the movie last year godzilla minus one is prove of that also it didn`t even costs 15 million and they nailed it, while hollywood throw hundreds of millions in movies and they are mostly really shit these days. i don`t even wanna talk about the us military how much money they are wasting for nothing, and when they are in a war all they can do good is killing themselves with all the usless technology they have. have you seen the casultys in both of the irak wars 90% of the us soldiers that died there died because they where killed by friendly fire. throw endless amounts of money at something isn`t working but they try it again and again. one wise man once said, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.
While I doubt SCMaglev trains will ever become mainstream, but I wholeheartedly support the project. Even if it only works on that particular single line and nowhere else, the amount of time saved and all the innovations achieved to make it work will pay off one way or another. Besides, while regular Shinkansen is already bursting at the limits, and due to factors like friction and drag they can't really be improved beyond a set point, Maglev train can be expanded almost indefinitely. Like, if you want more capacity, just add more carts. They literally hover in the air, so the amount of friction added is insignificant by increasing the number of carts. Sure, it's still not the same as a train coming every 3 minutes or so, but if your train is 3x as long, you can allow more time between departures. Maglev is just so much more expandable than regular train, it's crazy.
weird to see Mustard focusing on a current/future project, rather than a historic failure or curio
Haha glad someone noticed
Was about to comment that when I saw the “2027” in the corner of the 3D render.
Perhaps this will indeed prove to be a historic failure!
@@MustardChannel i really liked this vid bro nice job
@@MustardChannel hell yeah brother
Japan has a unique geography when it comes to its population centers. This train project may become the lifeblood of a one mega city in the future of Japan.
Exactly the reason why they didn't build it in the 90s, only building it now.
other countries in south east asia have the same predicament (650+ million people) in very dense population centers. if japan is building this until 2040, at which point those countries would be much more prosperous and more populous than now. this investment might actually pay off
@@wanitooo but the maglev project is 2-3 times higher than high speed railways. and even southeast asia country is "barely" afford to build highspeed railways
@@Fauzanarief-n7i thats true today, but 20-30 (which is maglevs development timeline) years from now, that wont necessarily be the case. South Korea, Singapore, and even Japan went from a back water to first world in a similar time frame. Im just speculating where japan could possibly export this technology
@@wanitooo but still, high speed rail is the more economical and efficient compare to maglev for southeast asia country. Right now, indonesia and laos are building high speed rail from china.
This is the quality we came for.
Quality>Quantity
This is what we wait for
same
That's a quality self burn.
Mustard videos are always quality 💁🏻♀️
Side note: This train project is entirely funded by JR Central, who is one of the most profitable railyway company in Japan and in the world. They are capable of fully financing this project, therefore despite the enormous cost, since this is technically JR's private project, the government did not axe it.
damn
Impressive
has there been a rumour how much a ticket would cost? and how much is the Shinkansen price?
@@zumabbar The ticket price is already set, and it will be around 10USD more expensive than a regular shinkansen ticket.
@@sbeve7445excelent😊
I am a Japanese. I am all for this project no matter how expensive it may seem (for you, not for us). Even only 500km, this project connects 3 biggest population centers of this country. This new train will revolutionize how we work and travel between cities.
No, its just a vanity project at this point.
@@Vorteksio3 nah
@@Vorteksio3 if you seem to think so explain why
@@kirbyarroyo2118 Yeh
add the fact that your country has the highest debt to GDP ratio in the world and this project becomes way WAY too risky to currently undertake. You’re much better off just researching ways to work out your imminent economical collapse then focus on fast glorified oval magnets
As a wise man once said, “SPEED AND POWER!!”
HAHAHAHAHAHA
“How hard can it be?”
Jeremy Clarkson says that always!
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@@Yourmoosehead That's the joke
Tokyo to Osaka in one hour would be a game changer. You could literally live in Osaka while keeping a job in Tokyo. That’s like living in Cincinnati but commuting to Chicago for work.
Lol. If you can afford the $150 one way travel cost every day
@@marioluigi9599 A lot of companies here subsidize your train fare, in fact it's kinda standard for all companies I've worked before. I work pretty far from central Tokyo (1hr commute) but don't have to spend a dime on commuting fares as that's subsidized by the company I work for. It's unlikely they'll subsidize the whole fare for this, but it should cut the price by a reasonable amount, and you can still save a bit more in the end due to lower rent prices when you live farther from Tokyo / Osaka like parts Nagoya.
I even know someone who lives in Shizuoka and commutes to work to Tokyo in certain days of the week and work remotely in other days where a chunk of his fare is subsidized by the company via discount passes the company buys from the railway.
@Ryouko Konpaku, a slight change in subject, but can I ask what industry the company was in that enabled your acquaintance to work remotely some days?
@@lasennui We're both on the same industry (IT) but we work at different companies, we're mostly online buddies. Remote work was easier to adapt due to that, some industries though isn't as open on the topic. Even at work I'm quite sure we could have no problems going 100% remote imo, but I still have to go to the office around 3 days a week as per policy (only 2 days remote). Then again I do like working at the office from time to time since it's more spacious than my apartment.
@@marioluigi9599and save money on rent living in Osaka
5:43 And that's the key sentence there. "Even faster than flying." With Maglev line Japan can reduce the amount of their polluting and noisy airplanes. Maglev will pollute only as much as the power plant the maglev requires to run. And if the Maglev uses only, for example, nuclear power, it produces zero CO2 emissions. At the same time airplanes are chugging through fuel amounts measured in METRIC TONS. That's a colossal difference in produced CO2 emissions: zero vs metric tonnes. And still people get to move around aaand faster than with plane.
And a lot more comfortably.
No missing leg space on a train
Plus in the event a catastrophic crash occurs, the train would do little damage when compared to the 'fireball' a plane crash would make.
I would also think the trains are safer and more “ on time” in poor weather.
Zero carbon emissions if you ignore the carbon put into the atmosphere for manufacturing said nuclear plants, the trains, the magnets and the new gen rails. Which is not zero at all but much better
How do u think Uran is produced? Lol
And the waste stored lmao
Nuclear is not co2 neutral. It produces its own hefty chunk.
Maybe windpower
1:05 When the Japanese first built their trains, everyone thought they were stupid for focusing on a dying mode of transportation. Now look at em. Do go for it again Japan. Build the world's fastest train again.
The Japanese have great advantages over Germany and so on
a. they don't have to apologize for a hitler or colonial crime and thus take in millions of illiterate people, migrants, refugees and islamists.
b. islam + koran book is forbidden in japan and only practicable to a limited extent.
c. cause of a. and b. japan is capable to full focus on its own population / culture / customs.
@@ElectronicHouseFlash lol both of those are lies you can’t even have your xenophobia boner based on reality, like japan not apologizing for crimes you probably see as justified against less worthy Asians huh…
@@ElectronicHouseFlash You just highlighted why Japan should be ashamed of itself since their warcrimes are arguably worse than the Nazis, but they pretend like it didn't happen.
Being a culture so ashamed of itself and its past that it still can't face history is not an advantage.
Highspeed rail being successful in Japan has nothing to do with this weakness of Japanese psyche.
As much as I want them to build it, the things is their existing bullet train infrastructure is very well proven and present almost non-existent cons. So it's understandable why the concern exist especially considering the cost to build is way higher, more significant energy consumption and carry lesser passengers. My 2 cents ...
@@Number1FanProductions You can put your newfangled youth slang "Xenophobia" somewhere else. The fact is that Political Islam is very dangerous. It doesn't belong in countries like Japan or the whole of the West. The Koran book forbids Muslims to conform completely.
Islam forbids Muslims to conform to western values and laws. But he can pretend. I wish all Muslim countries peace and that the West stays out of it, every Muslim should have the right to practice his religion to the fullest in his country. But please not in the West, where the values do not fit in and where the Constitution / laws of the West do not comply with Sharia at all. To Japan: Do not build mosques, just let non-extremist Muslims in and continue to ban the Koran.
Mustard is kinda like that one uncle who rarely shows up to any gatherings unless not expected, but when he does, he always has an amazing story and is the centre of everyone’s attention.
underrated comment
He is!
true
As a daily commuter I can tell you that even a 5min improvement in traveling each way is a massive improvement meaning almost an hour a week longer at home with family.
Except how much does that 5 minutes cost? If it's an extra $20 a day to the cost of your commute, would you pay it? Probably not.
@@Crosshair84 I absolutely would.
@@Anksh0usRacing Huh, so I guess you value your free time at approximately $240 an hour. I mean if you're rich then sure, but if you're only moderately well off then that's just a waste of money.
@@goldenfloof5469 to play the devil's advocate
Time is money, but money won't turn back the clock
The 5 minutes saved can be helpful when you ran into an unforseen event that cost you 5 minutes in time
@@SM-cq1mm yes. Time is money. And most people waste their time, while also willing to spend more money to save an hour of time, than they make at work for an hour of their time. So when is an hour worth $100-200? My time doing work gets me about $200 an hour. But I work for myself. And I can’t work 40 hours a week at that same rate. So me saving some time doesn’t really matter. It’s all relative really, and I don’t believe most people are capable of actually rationally figuring out these things for themselves. Most people aren’t even capable of realizing that they are trading an hour of their life, for a specified amount of money, and that when you buy something, you are in fact trading your life for that something. That new iPhone is worth an entire week of a persons life. And yet some will waste an hour on the phone, to save $10. People are irrational with time and money.
My favorite example of irrational monetary thought is the study that concluded more individuals would spend $10 on a theater ticket if they had just lost a $10 bill than if they had to replace a lost ticket worth $10
The Shinkansen is proud of not only the technology but also the fact that it has never had an accident in the past 58 years.
It definitely had several incidents. But definitely no major accident.
It had a few accidents but no fatalities.
And average delay is 12 seconds.
Japan's safety-focused high-speed rail is fighting against earthquakes of magnitude 7 or higher that can occur at any time every day...
I just realized. People say that flying is the safest form of travel...
NOT, shinkansen is ironically safer
"It is going to cost 5.5x as much as the original shinkansen." Well that's still way cheaper than the California HSR for a much higher quality transit system.
Don't worry, Hyperloop will out-bedshit them all.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 Ah, yes, the fanboy...
@@tvthecat I'm a fanboy? Do you speak English? Have you not ever before heard the phrase "shitting the bed"? Can your read beyond a sixth-grade level? Because my aforementioned post clearly indicates that I think Hyperloop will shit the bed.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 Ooh, sorry
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 I'm still learning English and I'm not entirely proficient. What does the phrase "shit the bed" imply?
It looks exactly like with their first bulletrain project. The whole world was laughing while they built it.
This time around they were too busy sniffing Elon Musk's brain farts to pay attention.
@@andrewdevine3920 nah, it was the wafting of THC that stupefies.
Might end up being the Concord of trains though, much faster than the Shinkansen but way more expensive and less energy efficient at a time when the world is looking to go green
@@AlpineShenanigans do you really think a train that only has a route of ~500 km will change the climate?
It's still a stupid project....cost a lot and not as efficient as other railways like TGV for example. We are in the green, efficiency direction...this project goes the other way.
Another thing that prevented the Transrapid from continuing production in Germany was a big crash close to my home turf in Lathen where a Transrapid line crashed into a maintenance car at 162 km/h. 23 people, including my uncle, died in that crash and it halted the innovation in Germany, which is sad because all my uncle would've wanted to see is the Transrapid finishing development. Nowadays the only remaining pieces are the 32km of test track running through our Crops.
That is sad. The best ideas are often abandoned when a human does something ... human.
Very sorry for your loss. From my understanding the crash was due to human error, that a maintenance train was on the main line Maglev track at the wrong time. If that were the case then I dare say we shouldn’t give up on the technology. The train didn’t completely derail. And while these projects are pricey, Maglev promises to be much cheaper to maintain compared to traditional high speed rail so you will save money in the long run. I would hope that the devastating crash that occurred on the Transrapid test track doesn’t completely tarnish this idea of high speed Maglev. In a post pandemic world, we’re gonna need technology like this in the 21st century.
I'm guessing you uncle didn't enjoy that? 🤷♀
@@CKLee-rs4kl Hey that's exactly what I think about Eugenics, brilliant idea, they could have been (could still be with the use of gene editing) the key to better genetics and less diseases and disorders just better health overall.
Deepest condolences to you for your uncle's loss.
It takes me over 1 and 1/2 hours to travel 17 km to school. Seeing this makes wanna live in Japan.
same here, you dont live in germany aswell, do you?
@@zero.Identity Nooe India, though was not expecting Germany to have it that bad!
@@zero.Identity Boah, wo in Deutschland wohnst du? 😭
@@antimatter_nvf am land warscheunlich, wenn du in österreich am land wohnst bist auch ziemlich am arsch, busse fahren 2x mal täglich zur schule zurück auch nur 2, bahnhöfe gibts kaum
@@ali3173 Aua 😬
“Everyone knew it was impossible, until a fool who didn’t know came along and did it.”
Progress isn't made by clinging to the old and tinkering on it. It's made by continuously experimenting and trying new things.
Instead of blowing up our economy with stimulus checks, we could be putting that money into infrastructure projects which would have the same effect
Then China came along, stole everything and then credits themselves for all the hard work, just like many project in China, all credits of Chinese and lots of time failed to even mentioned the foreigner companies they hired to do all the planning and such.
It's always profitable when you steal everything and not spend a single dime on Research and Development to get there.
@@johnwong5317 sounds like what usa did for... 80 years? perhaps more?
@@wingi91 and DEFLECT back to US despite you can see every cheap knock off in China now.
Just like Gunpowder or all invention in past Imperial China, who invented them?
Someone's else did, then Imperial's officials came along, force transfer to Imperial Chemist or whatever and then make it sounds like Imperial Court actually did.
Why gunpowder in China only stay at firework and nothing beyond that? You ever think about it?
Well if the world don't acknowledge it, then it is practically impossible.
I think the maglev should be compared with energy consumption of flight between the cities. It cuts the travel speed to less than flying, thus people, who usually fly will probably choose the maglev instead. As long as it doesn't replace the conventional high-speed rail, the effect could be overall positive to emissions
Finally someone in the comments has realized the system is meant to be compared to air travel, not compete with the existing network.
@@spartan117zm Although it should be clarified that maglevs compete with short and medium-haul flights. Planes are still ideal for long and ultra-long haul flights.
@@spartan117zm I mean, one of the main reasons JR are doing this is because there is pretty much no capacity left on the Shinkansen line, and no capacity left to increase the capacity. They need a new line.
@@dbclass4075 exactly right.
@@tams805 also very true, I wish he would’ve clarified this a bit more in the video, because so many people commenting seem to think it’s supposed to compete with the traditional services.
A wise man once said : "It's always worth waiting for a Mustard video"
Yes
And they all concurred in unison
Ya þ z cv 'x.
You speak the truth
I was that man
The footage of the SCMaglevs are stunning and beautiful. It's like a soaring crane gliding through a tunnel.
Man this man's animations are beyond human
Keep making these vids man 👍
Yeah he give large companies a run for their money
You used the same word twice and it *pisses me off*
You’re talking about it as though it’s intended to replace high speed rail, but I think it’s more to compliment it. A lot of the passengers on the high speed rail line will not be going between Osaka and Tokyo, but likely between one of those places and the many destinations along the existing high speed line.
I think this new mag lev is to help both compliment and reduce congestion on the existing high speed line. Through this; I think investing in it makes sense.
As a tourist it would be nice to go from Tokyo to Osaka in about an hour.
@@TrophiHunterSeth I would take it just for the fun of it.
Hope you dont mind this comment, but compliment is to say something nice about someone. Complement is an addition to something (:
@@TrophiHunterSeth As a tourist, you should visit parts of rural Japan, like famous onsen towns in the mountains.
Why not just build another high speed rail line that is straighter?
Me in Germany: "Takes 6 Hours to move 230km using the trainnetwork"
The Japanese: 400km in 2 Hours is the worst i can give you.
To be far, trains in Germany have to much stations to stop. There's really no 'big cities', but many medium sized but equally important towns.
Lol trains in India do 230 hours for 6km
China:Hold my beer.
The rail outside of the Shinkansen lines is still slow. If you are going outside of the high speed routes, it takes time to go there, but it will get you there reliably.
@@suertod1659 i thought that China had the most high speed lines in the world?
Being able to travel between the 3 mayor cities of your country in 67 minutes of travel is mind boggling. Where I live sometimes it takes me an hour to travel 35 km due to traffic.
Car-centric infrastructure moment
@@concept5631
Car's are better for larger countries.
@@ieditedmyname289 They can be. But they aren't.
@@ieditedmyname289Cars are never better once you're inside a major city. Large country or otherwise.
@@ieditedmyname289 cars are better for large rural areas*
The whole point of a city is having a denser amount of people. Owning a car basically doubles the amount of space you occupy
the last time I clicked on a video this fast, the Shinkansen hadn't even arrived at its first station.
I was sadly slower..
By the time I clicked 200000+ trains arrived
Which Shinkansen?
@@dbclass4075 prob e7
Babe, wake up. We're already a dead meme. We've been overtaken by the "a wise man once said" group and surprisingly the "I never clicked so fast" people are making a resurgence. What are we going to do?!? I know...
3.7 Roentgens...not terrible, not great!
First!
I applaud Japan for going ahead with this project.
It’s always a good day when Mustard posts
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@@toasterhavingabath6980 relatable
As someone who's working with maintenance of traditional trains, I am all for this. I don't think people in general have any idea how many break pads, wheelsets, break disks, gear boxes, shock absorbers, etc we change each year. Not sure what the maintenance costs of the maglevs are like, but I guess train tickets would be cheaper if there were less mechanical stress on the bogie and traction systems.
China has been operating a 468kph maglev since 2002... They have a lot of data... 20 years worth.. The guy in this video said "unproven technology"... Not sure why he chose that... But ya. Maglev is legit, it works, and works well.
Yes absolutely. The only big advantage that can compensate on the long time the higher construction costs and energy consumption is the lower maintenance cost, but the difference is not so big as it might appear, at least at the present time.
idk man, this kind of electromagnetic technology is extremely expensive and is still not entirely understood. Maybe the overtime costs could be justified eventually.
nah all those power electronics cannot be cheap or easy to maintain. I think it's different problems, not less problems.
@@_tsu_ there are already literal tonnes of power electronics in a modern locomotive and have been for the past 30 years. Of course it's not cheap to build, but honestly the latest generations of IGBT power converters are very reliable and doesn't require much maintenance at all.
Large project financed by the government like this is also a great way to boost the economy and advanced technologies industry. Something Japan can surely benefit from.
The Maglev is all privately funded by the Central JR Corporation, a publicly traded company. The only government funds coming into play are for the extension to Osaka. The Osaka government did not like being told to wait, so offered additional loans for the extension to occur earlier.
Japan “government”.... keep changing hands in terms of political leadership, which government would spend such amount where they do not think they can reap the benefits or getting the credit. As Japan’s development over the years have concentrated on Tokyo & Osaka the north east, north west & south west are much neglected/ignored, and hence such train routes are will not serve business travellers and mainly serves for tourists, which I think will be hard to recover investment cost.
Only, the very “well-off” benefit!
Another load of debt - yipee!
@@clumsyclicker3199 Clumsy, nice joke!
Showing the metropolitan area population of the three cities would have made more sense.
It’s less like connecting London to Birmingham and Manchester and more like connecting three areas the size of London x 4, London and London x 2.
Yeah, Tokyo metro has a population of about 38 million people -- nearly the population of the entire state of California.
Goes as fast as an aircraft, but along the ground with hundreds of miles of terrorist access. What could go wrong?
Terrorists can kill you on a slow train too. They don't seem inclined.
@@teakangel3683 - Terrorists can blow up sporting events, shopping malls, movie theaters, nightclubs, skyscrapers, etc. So I don't understand your point.
@@teakangel3683 not a single death on the existing bullet train lines
I think the primary benefit of the maglev is the ability to better compete with air travel and open up longer distance routes. Over distances currently optimal for hrs, maglev’s benefits are minor, but for longer distances, maglevs can be a more comfortable, convenient and environmentally friendly alternative to air travel.
Agreed
It's not likely that this will compete with air travel in any significant way. Planes are still much faster than the maglevs and cost much less over longer distances, primarily because air is free while tracks are quite expensive. If it were to compete with air travel, it would win over shorter distances but lose to longer distance routes due to being much more expensive than planes with longer distances.
@@thecommeldore3416 Existing high speed rail is already competitive with air travel, so I don't see why maglev wouldn't compete. Also, your analysis ignores the difference between operating and capital expenses
@@junelawson5719 High speed rail is only competitive with air travel over shorter distances, the longer it gets the more planes become a viable option. I don't really need to cover capital and operating expenses with my argument, the difference between the two doesn't matter, they both make trains more expensive over longer routes. Another problem with the maglev besides air travel is that there isn't really any meaningful need for it. It's just like the concorde but with trains.
@@thecommeldore3416 People were harping this same shit when the Shinkansen was first being built, then it put their airlines out of business or in the red. But I'm sure you know far more about this topic than the people designing and planning it for decades and long before you were born. Please tell me more, o' wise one.
I had the priviledge of riding on the Shinkansen from Tokyo to Osaka. Smoothest train ride ever, and also the most comfortable train cabin ever. The technology behind it is insane as well.
When I lived in Japan in the early 90s, one of my English students was a designer for the shinkansen system. He used to say they could have even faster trains if they could build enough straight track. As it was, you had to either go around mountains (Japan is ALL mountains) or through the mountain. Tunneling is expensive and you also had to deal with "tunnel pop" where air pressure would build up in front of a speeding train causing drag and a huge "pop/boom" when it exited the tunnel disturbing anyone living nearby. I figured that with the SCMaglev being 80% underground they might vacate some of the air to lower the drag. But maybe not...
And then everybody clapped
@@justsomeone7883 That’s not at all how you are supposed to use that line
@@xavalongamesx9535 yes that was the joke
Curvature is such a huge factor with any high speed rail/roadway design. Wondering if some energy could be recovered from the displaced air btw, maybe a storage tank and turbine of some sort~?
@@grandgao3984 what
Japan is an amazing country. Their education, respect to others, culture, food, architecture, history, technology, people... I strongly recommend to visit this amazing country at least once in life.
I will say though that their work culture drives many to deep depression and even self deletion, so that could really use a change.
PS I went to Japan in 2018, it was amazing ;)
You know nothing of Japan. They're extremely racist and treat their people poorly. If you're overweight, they send you to the doctor to be put on a diet or you get fined. The censorship is extreme and many Japanese men commit suicide. Your dumbass is probably an American Democrat.
See if Japan is still an amazing country in 10 years. If you lived in Japan you would know you were deceived by making an image of 🇯🇵by the Japanese government. They are the biggest liars media and the government. Do not eat Japanese food which contains huge amount of radiations. They are still working very hard to trick you and world. Do your research by yourself. You will find out something. I am not trying to ruin your memory. I am just telling you the truth. Believe or not.
@@usu336 Um, you are right to be a bit sceptical, Japan definitely has a lot of issues including insane work hours, bureaucracy, racism, and sexism. But huge amount of radiation in the food? I would love a source on this.
@@usu336 you comment just like some Chinese guys , not objective and hateful
"Is it worth it?" Possibly not
"should it be done?" Yes
That's the thought
My name is also Ben.
Nah.... if they are going to all that trouble they should just build a hyperloop
@@crocodile2006 a hyperloop is pretty much worthless, it would just be a waste of more time/resources for pretty much the same result
Cool toilets exist in Japan and if this isn’t the coolest train ever
I really hope that this project will be successful and they can expand to the whole of Japan!!
“You need to move a litter faster than that son, speed is life”
- Viper from Titanfall 2
ahhh yes titanfall 2, nice
"Voodoo 1, Viper's on station. Your journey ends here, Pilot. The skies belong to me. Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide."
Mustard is the definition of "Quality over quantity"
opposite of F&E, for sure.
190th like
Mustard is an example of "One for free and go there for more". Fair enough for me though.
@@Chorizo727 The Infographics Show as well
@@thefilipinogamertfg Bruh the Infographic Show literally post multiple videos a day, what are you on about?
My father went to Japan 1989 to 1993 from the Philippines as a construction worker. He worked for one of the construction firms specializing in steel girder installations, Road pavement. Their company was partially involved in the construction of some section of these train tracks.. he often told me about how high tech and remarkable this particular project and will watch this from a distance how fast they can go he said. Sounds magical for 9yrs old kid back in late 80s,still are today!
I’m Korean and once visited Japan and used Shinkansen bullet train in Japan. It was extremely clean inside and quiet and never shaking at all and it was very comfortable ever in any transportation I used in my life.
I actually bit jealous about how Japan is ahead of our society. Korea copied many things from Japan but actually quality of everything is way less and cheaper versions of Japan.
I'm actually surprised I would read this from a Korean, very honest. I've been to Korea multiple times and what I always hear from my misinformed Korean friends is that Japan copied alot from Korea like the 붕어빵 (bungeoppang) even though I knew it was from Japan way before it was sold anywhere else, I just kept quiet.
I really appreciate your honesty. Because as a Korean, you are heaping praises on Japan. I wish there are more Koreans like you who values the truth and moves away from conflicting with Japan. Japan and S. Korea are the only like minded countries in East Asia to counter Chinese aggression.
🇯🇵🤝🇰🇷
The whole world could learn quite a few things from Japan when it comes to infrastructure, transport, and services. But still, Korea is worthy of jealousy too in my opinion. Though I've spent less time in Korea than I'd like, it was enough for me to say "I wish we had this at home". It was very convenient getting around the country with absolutely no need for a car or taxi. The public transport was clean and on time, and people were more than willing to help a lost European traveller.
Being a tourist in Korea, Japan, and Taiwan is one of my most treasured experiences in my life, nowhere else have I felt so welcome, safe, and happy.
@@GCS88 bruh his not really korean, the korean always hate japan they always complain about "how japan has 29 nobel prize winner while Korea only has 1 Korean are better race than japan but why we lose"
What I've gathered from this is that if this attempt at a Maglev railway system fails, it'll definitely be utilized off-world in Moon/Mars colonies way off in the future, since all the "old infrastructure" won't exist.
Also, air resistance is the primary friction for these trains, which will be orders of magnitude less on Mars and nonexistent on the Moon.
I feel you.
Elon agrees
depends on how heavy the weaker moon magnets for rails are. im not an expert but its pretty dang important to save weight when launching cargo into space.
@@arenio by the point of having enough human presence to warrant mass transit on such scale, we'll be already sourcing most materials and processing them locally.
The most important thing mentioned in this video, is that bullet train has enormous capacity to carry passengers. More passengers - > less operating cost per single ride (economy of scale). Economy of scale proved itself through history to be critical for sustainability in the long term. On first glance, maglev reminds me of concorde. Super fast, but limited with capacity raised cost per ticket and become economy unsustainable.
Edit: Maybe long term operating cost will be lower, due to "frictionless" way of operating. (Tracks will last longer?).
I would not compare the Maglev to other Trains but to Planes. You can get the same amound of people by electrical rail from one city center to another without spending fuel.
You also dont need an airplane (i guess the Maglev is similar expensive then a plane),no airport outside the city in a packed nation like japan where free space is sacred, easier to use and faster overall.
Concorde ran a profit once they abandoned the effort to try and carry super sonic passages on a large scale rather then as a luxury service.
@@Anonymous-zu7dh Maglev, for sure, will be premium class at the beginning.
Yeah but the difference with rail is once the infrastructure is there it’s there. Even if they later regret building the line it will almost certainly still be economically viable to run it.
The line is going to have less capacity than the Toukaido line for sure, but it's still a mass transportation system. In most countries, trains with a few hundred passengers running every ten minutes would be considered a high capacity system. Most Shinkansen lines also run a lot less traffic than the Toukaido lines without being luxury services like Concord was. I think it's a difference of degree.
I actually think that building a new maglev through the mountains is probably the most sensible way to meet the rising transport needs on that corridor. Even though the Japanese population is shrinking, the big cities are still growing. The JR companies are going to need more service between Tokyo and Osaka, or they're going to lose market share to the airlines. The Toukaido line has no capacity left for more traffic, so they need new capacity. Expanding the existing line with new tracks would be very expensive since it runs through extremely build up areas, and probably inefficient since the extra trains will interfere with each-other to an extent.
I believe the least expensive way to provide a meaningful increase in capacity is to build a completely new line through the mountains. Yes, tunnelling costs a lot of money, but it's probably cheaper than buying land and doing constructing in an area as dense as the Toukaido corridor. It also saves all the delays and headaches of dealing with all the people who don't want to move for a new train. That stuff is always ugly.
Once you decide to build a new line through the mountains, going for maglev just makes sense. It's going to be very expensive either way, and most of the cost is the tunneling, not the tracks or the trains. It doesn't make sense to build a hugely expensive series of tunnels and then cheap out on the trains you put in them. If the project is going to cost that much and be that risky, they might as well go all in because if it works the system won't just transport people, it will change the whole structure of those cities and the way people live, and provide significant boost the whole Japanese economy. IF it works. Big risk, but I think it's better than spending almost as much money building a slightly shorter double for the Toukaido line just to maintain the status quo.
Let’s not forget if built this maglev could act as a secondary escape route should a devastating earthquake knock out parts of the existing Tokaido Shinkansen, which is almost 60 years old and I’m sure ready for major upgrades.
The real question is the capacity. Tnough, i doubt japan would invest such money into a lane thats 10-20% the capacity of shinkensen. They probably have a solution for that.
@@vitas75 It's more like 30%, which is no small number given how busy the Toukaido line is, and that assumes they're never able to decrease headways in the future. That's probably more people than most high speed lines in most countries carry. It's still equivalent to a jumbo jet every 5 minutes or so!
Also, I've been told that in Japan by law they cannot force private land owners to sell it they don't want to which again would speak for the mountain road.
But I'm wondering, if the majority is tunnels already anyway, why not make it all one big vacuum tube? Then the issue of air resistance is solved. Not sure how that would work though but isn't Elon already working on a solution?
I hope Japan is able to pull this off in a financially successful manner. One day I want to ride in the Concorde of trains
I should note, the population of Tokyo itself is a little over 13 million. The metro area around Tokyo displayed in the video, which includes cities like Yokohama and Kawasaki, is over 30 million people!
Also, though the Chuo Shinkansen (name of the line) is proposed to cruise at 500 km/h (approx. 310 mph), in April 2015, the train reached speeds of 590 km/h, and a week later, 610 km/h (375 mph). So the actual cruising speed of the train may increase.
The test track, where they are testing speeds and offering tourists an experience to ride the SC Maglev, is part of the Chuo Shinkansen track. So eventually they will simply connect the main track to the test track and complete the project.
70s parent feeding baby: choo choo train goes chugga chugga choo choo.
21st century parent feeding baby: train goes reEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE slaming the spoon into the babies mouth
But without the "choo choo" trains, there would be no high-speed ones. This is similar to a stairway : to get to the ultimate one, you have to walk every single of them all.
@@gillesmatheronpro or take the escalator down to the other option 😂
There weren't any 'choo choos' in 1970. My jouneys around that time were on 125 mph HSTs.
@@grahamstevenson1740 I didn't mean the 1970 only, but referred to other times... the ones that led to what railways currently are.
Then you seem to consider only the "western" side of the World. But spend some time in India or Sénégal (as I did for many years), and you surely will broaden your field of view. From Dakar to Saint-Louis du Sénégal, the train ride usually lasts 6 hours. But sometimes up to 7 or 8 hours if a sand storm occurs or cattle settles on the tracks. Distance is 250 kilometers... have a think about it !
In other countries, electric tractors are a dream but steam machines are the norm.
The World is larger than your eyes can see... try to think larger. 😇
@@gillesmatheronpro There was a new rail line completed recently in Iran, I believe that uses electric traction. Railways in China and Japan are mostly electric. Russia has, I believe completed electrification of the trans-Siberian route.
Any traction OTHER than electric makes sense only where the railways are cash/investment starved which accounts for most of the steam locomotives and a lot of the older diesel types and where a line is either very, very long with limited traffic (USA mainly)and indeed where traffic is too light to justify the cost of the electrical infrastructure.
Japanese engineering never ceases to amaze. I always admire Japanese hard work and engineering. So satisfying to see.
Thank you so much Mustard!
3:58, 6:12 what a beauty! This train is truly a piece of art!
1. It's up to 600km.
2. A mega region of 65 million people in total.
3. In addition to the benefits you've mentioned, it'll replace some numbers of the operated trains as Hikari, which has the fewest stops compared to the rest of the two, thus the number of the operated trains as the others will increase, meaning it'll benefit those living between the three cities.
Edit: Hikari is not the one that has the fewest stops but Nozomi is the one. Thanks, Farouk Talbi!
For point 3, do you think JR Tokai will add a new line dedicated to the Chuo Shinkansen ? As far as I know, there's Nozomi which is the fastest and the most available line, Hikari which has a 30 min interval and has more stations and finally Kodama with the Shinkansen stopping at all stations. I assume a new line name is better since the Chuo Shinkansen is totally different than the Tokaido Shinkansen
@@farouktalbi863 First things first, I'm not a shinkansen or tetsudo otaku but I've just known about the Chuo Shinkansen aka "linear motor car" (Japanglish) since I was a kid as it is such a big project for the country but also featured in the expo 2005, which I visited when I was a kid.
As far as I could find on the internet, it presumably is. Apparently, when they estimated how much it would cost to operate and maintain the shinkansen, they expected two lines, the one that has the fewest stops, and the one that stops at every station. On top of that, the stations between the starting and the last station (are planned to) have two platforms and four tracks (the half for the Tokyo-bound and the other half for the Osaka-bound), which means two shinkansens can wait there while other two shinkansens (the faster line) pass that station, at most.
Oh and yeah Hikari isn't the one that has the fewest stops but Nozomi, as you said. My bad
I think this train will be a success, maybe not immediately but in the long run it will. The reason why I think this is that it will not compete against other trains, but against airplanes.
Like what the TGV did in some way.
investing in public transport always makes sense. I'm glad MagLev makes a return, especially when it can replace planes.
I live close to the MagLev Transrapid train testing ground in Germany - I even got to ride it before the crash & decommissioning.
It's an amazing ride experience - absolutely smooth, you just feel the acceleration. The german system didn't even have wheels - they'd float of the track when the doors close.
It’s so unfortunate that a couple of careless workers ruined maglev development for Germany
I think it's shame that Mr Mustard only compared it to bullet trains and not short haul planes. Then MAG-LEV trains really make sense, since electrified planes have a loooong way to go.
@@Noukz37 Yeah. We won't get green planes until 2035 at the earliest considering Airbus's developments with their Hydrogen plane program.
not always, in japan you might get groped, but in the us, it would be so much worse. and now with high speed internet, as the rona proved, its questionable to commute for a great many jobs.
ICE goes with 300km/h and compatible with the existing infrastructure. Combining with recently expanding NightJet service, train is much more comfortable than planes for me within Europe.
I have some fast freight trains, I consider passenger trains in a separate category, they usually are 100 times lighter than some big freights
oooo, how fast are these fast frieght trains?
The Japanese are now using shinkansen to transport fresh fish and fruit around the country.
Meanwhile in Las Vegas, loop technology can move people at 30 mph 😂
Don't laugh that's on a par with the one at Gatwick.
Random Elon Musk reddit fans: OMG INNOVATION HE INVENTED ADDING AN EXTRA LANE TO THE HIGHWAY BUT UNDERGROUND OMGADA DWA KDAWKDAWOPDA ELON MUSK IS THE FUTURE OF PROGRESS
It currently covers a convention center. Less than a mile long, which is big for a convention center. Anyway, why go faster? That is a question.
@@markharmon4963 because if u don’t why not build a subway instead
@@dew9103 It does not make sense to go much faster than 35. Remember at present, there are Two .8 mile lengths going two ways, with a stop somewhere mid length. 35 mph means a minute or two between stops. That seems like a reasonable pace. When the system is expanded with longer stretches between stops then the cars/autonomous pods should go faster to save time. There are 14 miles of tunnels planned with 40 stops. If a trolley type subway were used then you might have to stop at every station along the way during periods of high volume use. With pods at 35 (faster than most trolleys I have ridden BTW) you would still make better progress without the required stopping which comes with sharing a trolley.
Japan: 1 hour to cross entire country
North America Subway: 10min to next station
In Britain they can make the next station in 2 min on the Londen underground and I seen other nation do it in 5 min at most
Meanwhile mexico is using Cableways as public transport...
@@USSAnimeNCC- TBF North American cities are huge which is probably why.
NYC subways: some idiot pulled on the emergency brake and now every train is delayed by 30 minutes
Tokyo and Osaka aren't that far apart compared to the length of the country. They're like barely 1/4 the distance from Hiroshima to Sapporo
As others have commented, when the Japanese were building their first Bullet Train systems, they received a lot of criticism.
Those critics eventually had to dine on _crow,_ with some _humble pie_ for dessert.
IF the Japanese can pull off this *SCMAGLEV* system, well, *CRITICS --> GRAB YOUR FORKS!*
😊😊😊
Yep, and because all they see is the cost of making them. Forgetting the long term benefit it gave us. Bullet train were criticised, yet they build so much and it work so well on them made travelling around the country way easier and faster.
Yet they think we need more freeways and cars that are still restricted by speed limit anyways. And the cost to maintain them is also enormous but made the city less livable due to them except on certain pockets of the city as a freeway destination.
Americans don't understand anything except 'profit'. They fail to comprehend the economic benefits which any rail service brings to a region. That's why their whole country runs on gas guzzling cars.
Japan had narrow gauge lines at the time and the first bullet trains are standard gauge meaning there was a lot of reason for criticism
And one more thing, bullet train was made by national railway, but this one will be made by nomal company(if it goes as planed)
People are against them including oil companies, air transport companies and car manufacturer
I hope they will be able to get this project up and running and that it will make enough to break even as well. Love speed and trains.
In my opinion, maglev trains like SCMagley have much more benefits than Hyperloop - safer, easier to built and operate, more passenger capacity, more realistic.
Yes exactly SCMaglev is far more legitimate than hyper loop.
Hyperloop is a joke. making low pressure entire track is huge operational cost.
I don’t understand why the hyperloop would even be considered, since California has earthquakes so often. In my mind it’s a terrible idea.
@frosty snow when you factor in the energy required to maintain the vacuum, they’re actually significantly less efficient than a traditional maglev.
@@christianokamura9419 Cause trains are "Caumunesm!!" while hyperloop is "OMG private capitalist innovation 360 dogecoin freedoms!!".
The Shinkansen made me a believer in high speed rail. I would choose it over flying any day of the week even if the flight is cheaper. No bullshit check in and baggage nonsense just show up before the train leaves and your good.
Yeah because its japan, people in america would be bringing guns and b0mbs to the trains and making all sorts of bad stuff, if shinkansen trains lines ever happen in america, they will need to have airport like security...
@@AtomicBoo That's a great point! We already have problems with distraught people parking their cars on train tracks to commit suicide, or kids jumping on tracks for a variety of dumb reasons.
Are you forgetting the 1995 toyko Sarin attack?
What this taught me: You need to filter out others' negativity and focus on improvement in life
beautiful way of looking at this.
Why does this sound like something out of a 40 year old single mothers instagram
@@5000mahmud why does this sound like the comment from a 13 year old.
@@xXDESTINYMBXx because unrealized platitudes are the pastime of 13 year olds, 40 yo moms and the stock and trade of advertisers & self help authors.
@linkzable Queen Latifah silly.
Good Luck to Japan from India. Go for it !!
Thanks for making a honest video. I really appreciate how you pointed out both the advantages and problems, and how you left the judgement of whether the SCMaglev will be sucessful or a failure intentionally open.
I have watched your first Shinkansen video and it inspired me to develop a epic documentary about the entire history of the Shinkansen. I have found so much of the history much more wild than imagined. I intended to discuss the earliest talks in the late 1930s and eventually the SC Maglev.
I thoroughly enjoy your coverage of the Chuo line and I would love to someday talk in the future about the whole SC Maglev program. I have had a hard time finding information about the earliest tests and even one train. So far, I have it in 5 episodes in terms of the script and information. I hope maybe we can collaborate in the future. I know I am not very well known, but I recently graduated cinema from SF State and I hope to put a footstep in the door with this series. If you manage to read this comment, I appreciate the look.
Nicholas
China already have a maglev train
Look, financial feasibility aside I desperately want this thing built because it's just too cool.
@Favel Konefka. But conventional rail is a replacement for cars, maglev makes the most sense replacing short distance flights, because they move faster than small planes and even a large plane that moves 2x as fast takes longer to go 700 miles when you factor in all the shitty hoops they make you jump through at the airport. Isn't that insane? AND, maglev will never stop for a tropical storm, or blizzard. Maglev is also SO much more comfortable than any other mode of transportation. Bar none, absolutely no competition.
@Favel Konefka. well ig we wont know until about 30 to 40 years from now tbh
@Favel Konefka. Certainly a better use of money than Afghanistan
Theres just something about trains that feel satisfying to me. Easily the best form of public transportation.
I hope it pans out well because this is just a really cool train. The superconducting technology is probably the most valuable part of this project as it allows us to do all sorts of neat stuff.
Exactly, you know how people go to ice skate now? Well with superconducting getting better, cheaper, and more accessible, we might be hover skating in the future
"Yo remember trains?"
"Yeah?"
"Let's do that again but we make it look like a platypus"
"..."
Japan tested different animal noses to see which was the most aerodynamic and the platypus won, that’s why Japan’s newer trains are shaped like that :)
Man, why can't it look like the absolute Chad of the 300 series?
Yes I know aerodynamics I just think the 300 series is sexy af sue me.
hat off: a bullet train?
hat on:bullet train the platypus!
Its because Japan built tunnels which don’t reduce pressure waves due to being built in the 60s, so unlike other trains, it all comes down to the shape of the nose
That sounds something Phineas and the bois and girl would do on one Summer day.
those 3D renderings are so realistic. that's quality content right here.
Nanti kamu nangsah
Kamu dgn aku baru saja kenal klau hak kamu kenapa kamu sibuk
There are lot of software he isn't animating those 🤷
@@anitasaad1045 ngomong apa si, kontol
This is not Japanese government project but a private company's self funded project.
Yep.
SCMaglev is targeting businessmen traveling in Green car, so the capacity don't need to be that high. Just like Concord was actually profitable in the tail end of it's service life, selling all business class seats.
Considering N700A usually have 16-cars (4 are First Class Green Car, which have 4 seats per row), the Maglev can only carry a fraction of people than a N700A, but at same time carrying almost the same amount of Green class seats.
Actually incorrect. All N700-based trains have 5 seats per row in all ordinary class carriages except the N700-7000 and N700-8000 variants, those have 5 seats per row in non-reserved ordinary class only. The only Shinkansen trains which had 6 seats per row were JR-East E1 & E4 double-decker trains in the upper deck of the non-reserved ordinary class carriages.
Equally to the above point, the maglevs aren’t designed to compete with the Shinkansens, they’re designed to compete with aircraft, most of which (for the same route) will have lower seating capacities than the maglevs will.
@@icars98 Apologies I must be confused, last time I had been in Japan was 2008.
Anyway, the point is: SC Maglev is targeting businessmen traveling in Green Class, not replacing Shinkansen. Which it have more than enough capacity for those.
Your 3D models look like actual footage. All this precious info combined with great graphics. U da man
Japanese train travels 450km in 67mins while me in Australia is waiting for the damn train to arrive after being 15 minutes late then waiting another 65 minutes for the train to travel 45km
LOL
That's 80 minutes at 0kmh before beginning to ride at 45kmh probably not exactly where you want to go. That doesn't count the time to drive and park (or walk or taxi) to the departure station.
Using a new device called a private car, I and my family can in that 80 minutes travel 150km directly from my house toward my destination with no exchange of transit device.
When I get there I have a transit device at my disposal for use and return at any time I wish.
@@STho205 dawg just a guess but I’d assume if he’s willing to do all that tedious shit for a slow ass train that regular commuting may be out of reach in his circumstance(think remote terrain without roads) or something, I’m not a mind reader neither are you :)
@@STho205 when someone who’s smart realises a 14 year old cannot drive. thank you for being a big brain. Also your math is very much wrong if you take into consideration if the train was running on time it’d be a 65 minutes trip from a - b. Also must consider stopping at other station , rail works etc. Mind you all your data is incorrect stated. The distance was 45km not speed
@@Number1FanProductions thank you for being a big brain
The funny thing about taking the bullet train vs flying from Osaka to Tokyo and vice-versa is that the bullet train is actually quite often more expensive. That being said, it's also far more convenient. To get to Kansai Airport in Osaka can take 2 hours depending where you are coming from in the city. The same goes for Narita airport in Tokyo. Not to mention the time spent waiting in the airport, going through security checks, boarding the aircraft and the actual flight itself.
For the bullet train though, you can get to either Shin-Osaka station or Tokyo Station in under an hour from almost anywhere within their respective cities, and boarding the trains can be done in just a couple of minutes. Then it's an easy 2 and half hour ride with SO MUCH LEG ROOM!
If anyone is ever traveling between Tokyo and Osaka, I highly recommend the bullet train.
And as someone who lives in Osaka and semi-regularly takes the bullet train to Tokyo, I have to say this new SCMaglev is very exciting! I'm sure tickets will be expensive, but you know I've gotta try it out for myself when it's finished! A roughly 60 minute ride to Tokyo blows my mind!
Of course it does. Go ahead Japan. We can't sleep on with technological stagnation.
ありがとう😊ございます。子供の頃からの夢で、社会の教科書に出ていました。その頃は実験場が宮崎県でした。生きている間に一度は乗りたいです。それにはまずコロナの収束が目の前の問題です。57年間新幹線に乗ってますが最高の乗り心地ですよ。イギリスのそれとは全然違います。
Yeah, going to the Moon was extremely expensive, but the new technologies that had to be developed to solve the issues have been used in so many areas since then, that it paid off several times. I think that Maglevs are expensive now, but there is a lot to learn and improve upon and bringing people together and reducing travel times will have a lot of economical benefits as well. There is a lot of ways to waste money in much less effective ways than technological development.
And then you realize that most of the stuff you see had Japanese essential patents. Love to see ignorant little talking nonsense. 😅
Japan is a country that won't stop in advancing in technology and I don't see it stopping any time soon it's good to know that a country that's humble and nice just wants to upgrade for the the good of humanity and to also give the world more research on our way to the next generation of humanity the space age thank you Japan thank you so much
p.s I also love the anime keep it up
Love from a filipino
Cool story bro.
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Legitimately exciting. I would usually scoff, but this is Japan, and they follow through. I hope the project succeeds.
Japan: Bullet Train
USA: Bullet Brain
Elon musk:bullshit train
6:10 “superconductivity increases magnetic force”. No, it does not. At equal current in a coil of the same shape the force will be equal, regardless of whether the coil is superconductive or not. What superconductivity allows is to use greater current without having to worry about losses. No loss means no power needed to keep the magnet running apart from the cooling system to maintain superconductivity.
Pretty sure people won't be interested in your intellect if you can't convert your words into a simpler dialogue.
@@chrisi7127 superconductive magnets don't make the magnets stronger per amount of electricity, but rather allow them to consume more electricity than conventional magnets, making them able to reach higher magnetic forces
superconductivity allows the magnets to be nearly frictionless, while also consuming electricity at a much more efficient rate. These factors combined can increase speed and magnetic force while keeping the position of the magnets in an extremely stable state relative to the track
@@tjl2836 Ah, so essentially they're stronger magnets?
@@chrisi7127 they have the potential to be stronger since they can handle more power. Their maximum power is higher.
Decades ago they said high speed rail would not be worth the time and money, but it payed off and was a huge success. Now they’re saying that maglev trains are not worth the time and money, but I think this could be a great idea and could help decongest rail stations and bring people form different cities closer together.
It will definitely be worth it. With the conventional high speed line, you will have a bit less planning to do, especially in the beginning when there aren't going to be trains every ten minutes, but connecting cities together faster and with less bullshit than planes is worth it, even if you outpace the plane only by a minute.
Here in Australia, still no high speed rail between two cities with 10 million people between them.
I think the biggest hurdle is the need for a whole new type of rail. That means you're either expanding the existing track footprint, which is a huge pain in built-up areas, or you're trying to build a whole new track across someone's land, which is functionally a new wall several hundred miles long. The Chuo Shinkansen drilling through a bunch of mountains was expensive and increases energy use, but it definitely dodged some difficult land use issues in the process.
That *might* be a slightly smaller issue in the US, where the rail network is optimized for cargo instead of speed anyway, but the longer runs between American cities tend to make aircraft more desirable anyway.
@@PeterJavi osaka to tokyo by plane is 1h30min. Thats not including security checks and boarding.
@@AubriGryphon That's true. For the US, I see maglev as a great way of going between cities in the same state.
I also think that, as prices come down over the next decade, maglev could be an excellent replacement for domestic flights.
I absolutely love this channel. The music, the transitions, visuals, audio...everything! I wish there was an hour long video of one of these.
Can’t say enough about the quality of this video. Excellent work! I’ve subscribed.
Maglev: "I am speed."
Me seeing a new Mustard video in my recommended: "Darling, you do NOT know what speed is."
my wallet: I know.
Lol 😂
The SCMaglev line and Japan's conventional high speed rail serve two entirely different purposes. The conventional high speed rail is a way to serve demand, and increase passenger capacity. The SCMaglev on the otherhand, is an attempt to *induce demand*. Japan is counting on the train to create new commuters from Tokyo, Nagoya, and Osaka. In doing so, push for wider economic revitalization.
So, they're aiming for an Economic Bubble 2.0?
@@duskshel8119 I swear to Christ, the people on this website. *Trying to link your 3 economic hubs is a good idea.* Building infrastructure is a good idea. If it is easier to do business, the business will get done. It's not like the government is investing in web domain urls. What bubble would this make? Furthermore, Japan's economic growth wasn't a bubble. The Japanese automotive industry is still one of the most prominent in the world. And last I checked, Japanese appliances and electronics are still being sold around the world. Japan's economic woes are from deflation and debt. Austerity will just destroy the economy, they need tangible investments to revitalize the economy.
@@HeckaLives No, its not a good idea if its just an idiotic vanity project like in this case. Building a line for commercial use will not revitalize the economy. And Japanese economic growth was fueled entirely by asset prices speculation. This is why the bubble burst in 1990, and Japan has been in stagnation/recession ever since. Deal with the facts, its golden era has ended literally over 3 decades ago.
@@Vorteksio3 last time i checked , Japan still ranks 3rd on world's total nominal gdp far ahead from countries like german , India and the UK
Well the HSR was also at first counting on induced demand, that's what all new infrastructure projects are based on since y'know there can't be demand for something that does not yet exist.
As a map nerd, I'd pay hefty amount of money to have that map of Japan on my wall. So, so breathtaking.
Japan looks like a sea horse.
@@vangcruz4442 that's also what I thought of Japan. 😊
As a german, hearing that 3 huge cities are connected by just 67 minutes shocked me. That's like the delay that our Deutsche Bahn trains have, and that'd be fast 🪦
Well, here in Japan, trains are big parts of our lives and even teens can go anywhere they want just by boarding a train.
How much does it cost to use the train?
@@andybaldman In the city, it costs about 120 yen (about $1) to go to the next station.
@@SATOMEGULI Thank you! That's so inexpensive. Japan is much better than the US. You are a smarter country.
Mustard: Hasn't posted in long time
My friends: He's dead
Me: No He isn't
1 day later:
Mustard posts new video
You have friends?
@@filipinordabest wat lol
Just confirms he's dead and been replaced
@OwOits because that person actually died
@OwO cant read what you typed because of the ridiculous name the other person has.
China feels like a country where this would literally kick there economy into overdrive. Imagine you can live far outside shanghai but still work there without waiting idk 4 hours to get home. That would make the large amount of housing not used in china usable and an option for someone working in shanghai but doesnt wanna have to pay the extreme high cost of living there. All that real estate would be available to a whole new pool of people. It would also make ut possible for people studying there to not have to worry about housibg because they can go home to there family home
It would transform countries with large amounts of unused land like China and Russia. It would also radically improve the economy of countries like Mexico that rely heavily on megacities (like Mexico city).
@@Deadlyaztec27 exactly any country that has a large area compared to the rest where education wealth and jobs are available but the transportation or housing is limited would benefit.
Quit giving them ideas
@@pearodox Why? You afraid of China or something? This could positively impact the lives of more than a billion people. You may dislike the government, but there’s no reason not to want good things for the people of China.
it wouldnt even with there current rail infrastructure they don't, people still like living in city in china for some reason
HSR will see a major explosion once room temperature superconductors are figured out. Maglev’s issue right now is that the rails require supercooling which is expensive and inefficient
Engineers: How fast do you want the train to go?
Japanese: YES
Why no comments?
Taxpayers: $250B? No thanks.
@@demef758 well it is permanent for next 50 years and there banks are already full of money, they need to invest it somewhere.
china and japan are in a competition like the west was with sky scrapers, they're all seeing who can make the fastest train in the world. They're barely edging each other out. Japan had the title for a few years reaching 603km/h and now china just unveiled a model that is supposed to go 620km/h and the best part is, the cabins are properly pressurized, no noise or vibration, and no jarring turbulence, potholes or bumps in the track because you're levitating! You also don't have to deal with tsa, it's quick and easy to get on and off the trail, so even if the ride takes 2 hrs longer to travel 800 miles, you still end up with a station to station time that is equal, or in the maglev's favor in terms of speed, let alone the comfort differences. It's a really surreal experience.
That's the silly type of throwaway comment typical of a techo fanboy. Now make a sensible case for maglevs. You can't ! Bye eee.
People talking about Maglev trains: is it worth it?
People talking about Maglev trains in vacuum tubes: iT's ThE fUTuRe!!!1!
True the weakness link is air resistance and the project is already 4x more costly than high speed rail hyperloop is DOA
Hyper loop?
@@TheAcepilot123 but it is much more successful so the cost is explained by results
@momo chi Both Transpid and Hyperloop require very accurate track maintenance.
Would the second type of people be saying the first line?
Don't people who say the first line tend to be even more skeptical to the loop?
Japan: “wanna see me build a pioneering bullet train to connect my two biggest cities”?
no one:
Literally nobody:
Japan: “wanna see me do it again”?
Its always funnier the 2nd time!
@@marxel4444 But third time's the charm
Imagine travelling under the earth surface with maglev with enormous speed, reaching the other end of an country or even better between countries just about an hour.
As mustards first project looking to the future, I’m glad to see a somewhat optimistic yet tempered view of the project. I hope this is one Mustard’s videos to chronicle a interesting technological advancement. And not a unusual step in the wrong direction.
I love the bullet trains design, it looks like a plane from the front
0 series looks identical to Boeing 727.
Just a sadder a320
7:13 I love this design
@@nightingale-d3e yeah 😂
Bruh I'm so glad someone FINALLY covered this train.
Keeping those superconducting magnets cooled sustainably is the project’s greatest challenge. Tunnels exacerbate the problem, requiring constantly running fan plants spaced every 5km, including in stations. A power outage will fully shut down operations and could severely damage the cooling components mounted on the trains and guideways.
Waiting for a mustard video is like waiting for a finley aged wine
This seems to be really the first serious maglev train. The tunnels are longer than the entire tracks of other existing maglevs in China and Korea. Also unlike the Hyperloop it actually works.
The Transrapid was also a working train, but the politics and the car lobby destroyed the project
To put this into perspective, the Tokaido Shinkansen was estimated to cost $1 billion in 1964. Roughly $9B in today’s dollars.
Meanwhile the California High Speed Rail is currently estimated to cost somewhere between $80-100 billion. Up from the initial estimate of $33 billion. The Rail in Hawaii (not even high speed and 20 miles long) was estimated to cost $5B and to be completed in 2019. It’s now currently costing $16B and won’t be fully complete until 2031. So the Chuo MAGLEV costing about $50B (5.5x cost of the 1964 Tokaido line) is quite the bargain.
the problem you forget is that in the western world the rule is, throw enough money at things and they maybee will work if not then nowone cares.
in japan the rule is throw money only if every penny is really needed not throw away money for nothing, they know what they are doing and insteat throwing endless amounts of money on it and hope it will work they take the money they need and work with it too the maximum posible.
the movie last year godzilla minus one is prove of that also it didn`t even costs 15 million and they nailed it, while hollywood throw hundreds of millions in movies and they are mostly really shit these days.
i don`t even wanna talk about the us military how much money they are wasting for nothing, and when they are in a war all they can do good is killing themselves with all the usless technology they have. have you seen the casultys in both of the irak wars 90% of the us soldiers that died there died because they where killed by friendly fire.
throw endless amounts of money at something isn`t working but they try it again and again.
one wise man once said, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.
While I doubt SCMaglev trains will ever become mainstream, but I wholeheartedly support the project. Even if it only works on that particular single line and nowhere else, the amount of time saved and all the innovations achieved to make it work will pay off one way or another. Besides, while regular Shinkansen is already bursting at the limits, and due to factors like friction and drag they can't really be improved beyond a set point, Maglev train can be expanded almost indefinitely. Like, if you want more capacity, just add more carts. They literally hover in the air, so the amount of friction added is insignificant by increasing the number of carts. Sure, it's still not the same as a train coming every 3 minutes or so, but if your train is 3x as long, you can allow more time between departures. Maglev is just so much more expandable than regular train, it's crazy.