Candidate Attorney Salary in South Africa I Boni Xaba I S1 EP1
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
- How to become an attorney or candidate attorney in South Africa? How much do attorney's and candidate attorneys earn in South Africa? These are some of the questions we will answer in this video.
One of the organisation mentioned in this video:
tinyurl.com/seri-South-Africa
For more information, I've quoted this publication, they are sharing the realities of becoming an attorney in South Africa. This is the October issue of De Rebus, the SA's attorney's journal.
"Despite our growth, the challenges confronting attorneys remain substantial, and the work of the NFA has only just begun. We are acutely aware of the increasing difficulties faced by practitioners in sustaining their legal practices. In the Free State, a staggering 74% of attorneys in private practice with one to five years' experience earn less than candidate attorney in the public sector."
Read the whole article here: www.derebus.org.za/de-rebus-p...
I've created timestamps but would like to encourage you to watch the whole video to get full context on the subject matter.
00:00 What to expect in this video and introducing the guest
02:47 High School Life
03:56 Getting into University and dropping out
06:32 Declining funding for a Chemical Engineering bursary at UCT
08:31 Going back to university and working odd jobs during the time off
10:20 How she got her bursary
12:00 University life and extra Curriculum activities
14:15 The difference between the 5 and 5 year LLB Programme and benefits
16:18 Is LLB worth it ?
20:13 How did she secure her articles and her internships?
27:03 How much was she getting paid for as a candidate attorney
27:55 Talking about the Afrikaans and Car issues when looking for articles
31:33 Discussion over candidate attorney salaries
32:18 How can graduates position themselves?
36:32 Going into self employment vs looking for a job as an attorney
38:00 Her first paying client and how much she got paid
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39:40 Moving to Joburg and facing some challenges
42:00 When can graduates look for articles and where to look for a job if you can't or don't want to do articles.
46:00 Closing remarks from Yolanda
My guest, Yolanda Mnyengeza is an Attorney and Director at Mnyengeza Attorney, a law firm based in Randburg, Johannesburg, South Africa.
Website: mnyengezaattorneys.co.za/
UA-cam: @mnyengeza_attorneys
Facebook:
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Hi guys ! Here is your timestamp!!!
I would like to encourage you to watch most of the video for full context!
00:00 What to expect in this video and introducing the guest
02:47 High School Life
03:56 Getting into university and dropping out
06:32 Declining funding for a Chemical Engineering bursary at UCT
08:31 Going back to university and working odd jobs during the time off
10:20 How did she get her bursary
12:00 University life and extra curriculum activities
14:15 The difference between the 5 - and 4-year LLB Program and benefits
16:18 Is LLB worth it ?
20:13 How did she secure her articles and her internships?
27:03 How much was she getting paid for as a candidate attorney
27:55 Talking about the Afrikaans and car issues when looking for articles
31:33 Discussion over candidate attorney salaries
32:18 How can graduates position themselves?
36:32 Going into self-employment vs. looking for a job as an attorney
38:00 Her first paying client and how much she got paid
39:40 Moving to Joburg and facing some challenges
42:00 Where can graduates look for articles and where to look for a job if you can't or don't want to do articles.
46:00 Closing remarks
LLB Degree Salaries here
ua-cam.com/video/jpLjQSrODD0/v-deo.htmlsi=yImgvafNJ783Imns
Please leave us a comment and a like❤It will help a lot!
Thank you for having this honest conversation. I'm an admitted attorney. I got my degree in 2013 and only got articles in 2017 after doing PLT and finally got admitted in 2018 I'm still working in legal insurance. I wouldn't recommend an LLB to anyone. It really is a long journey to success and you end up branching off into something else. I'm furthering my studies to make myself more marketable because an LLB is just an entry-level degree and there's so many of us in the LLB pool
Hi Ntokozo,.thanks for your input!
I remember during my final year, I had regrets doing this qualification… I strongly agree with you council, I wouldn’t recommend this qualification to anyone honestly
@@puna7616 askies
Law firms that usually offer around R3500 salary,is mostly those one man show. I served my articles 10 years ago but i got more than R11 000.
I am a BCOM ACC (CA Stream) student at UCT, I already have 3 training contracts from the BIG 4 in my emails it's just a matter of choosing the one that align with my interests. And I got them in my first year of studies. I'd encourage anyone who's considering this profession to just go for it😁
Hhaybo but thina we are looking for law articles? 😂what should we do?😂
You got it because of your marks or?
That is just the beginning, you still have so much to learn
REAL money is in business. Learn other skills on the side...🙌🔥
I'm also an accounting student (CA stream). Can we talk?
Your guest was so articulate. Langa High school must be very proud of her🙌🏽
This profession need one to be patient and focused. There’s no money for candidates attorneys and junior attorneys. Things start looking good after +-5 years post admission. In a nutshell, you need to make career moves not money moves in the beginning of the career
endurance and family support is definitely key. It's a bit of a journey this side😇
I'm a law student at unisa and I needed this thank u so much 💖
You are welcome 😊
Said mouthful. I've optained LLB degree 2016 and done PLT in 2018 and could not find articles, ended up securing a permanent employment in a financial service sector. I've grown since i completed my degree so has my personal responsibilities. Now i can't even think of doing article Coz candidate attornies are paid way too little
Mmm, at least you have something!
Blessed evening! Good to be in this awesome village again for useful and valuable content.
You are welcome my sister🥳❤️
Thank you soooo much for this. Think you’ve asked very relevant questions. Love your work Sisi
Thank you ❤️
This video came in handy...thank you.
Thank you so much. About real time are reality check. Great teacher.
You are more than welcome 🙏
I love how she speaks English 🎉❤
Perfect!!! We love Langa high school!
Thank you Mariam, you're very kind😇
Thank you so much for making this interview possible sis boni❤😊
Ey it was s lot to put it together!!!
Love your channel❤
Thank you 😊
THIS IS THE BEST VIDEO IVE WATCHED BY A CANDIDATE ATTONEY ,THANK YOU VERY MUCH BONI N ALSO TO YOU YOLANDA
.YOU GUYS R THE BEST🥰🥰🥰
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Got my LLB 2005, Feb 2006 I was working and so were most of my classmates. Everyone, literally everyone including those who dropped out have been employed in different sectors and some are self-employed and are thriving. The same goes for many who came after me. When we were in our first year we were cautioned that the market is saturated. Like I indicated in my Tiktok comment, attorneys/LPs will never be replaced by robots. Chatgpt has already failed in court.
2005 was a long time ago, though. I think the concern is mainly post-2010. Tell me about Chat GTP and the courts. 🤣🤣🤣why did I think you were joking? Is this for real?
But the guest did mention that there are plenty of opportunities out there besides the typical route of being an admitted attorney.
Seriously. Google "south african lawyers caught using chatgpt to argue case"
You did LLB close to 20 years ago🧍🏽♀️ things are so different now. Every single career is experiencing some changes. Now finding employment is difficult regardless of the sector u choose to work in….
@@Iexposeevil did you miss the part where I say "many who came after me"?
Shout out to Langa High, our township schools must shine.
Period!!!!
Agreed😇
Thank you Yolanda much appreciated and not foregetting to thank you Boni
I'm glad you found value.
You're most welcome Asanda, I am glad you found this valuable🙂
I am a third year LLB student and I am 42 years old. I have never thought about the number of years in order to be admitted as an attorney . I work as a forklift driver and after watching this video I feel like I made the choice. Don't get me wrong I love helping or solving problems
Awesomea
🎉🎉🎉 This is inspiring big time. And it's makes me feel sad hearing people say in their late 20s saying it too late. For some reason when life is hard God just keeps you alive while those who made it sometimes don't live that long
@thongalamithetrader8337 never too late! I changed my career at 42
Yolanda you are so good, you managed to summarise almost everything in a short space. Very much intelligent young black and gifted.❤😊 Im answered especially in the part of applying when you want to serve articles. Thank you for your efforts
Awesome thanks!
I appreciate the kind words. And I'm glad this was insightful☺️
Thank you Boni for bringing people those who have made it & I wish your viewers to reach sky. Great job
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Iam a third year student studying Law and Labour Law and Real Estate is where my passion is. I needed this 🙏🙏 thank you so much, iam also ready to even work for free, holiday jobs, internships anything available. Currently located in East London but originally from Bizana. THANK YOUUUUUU SIS BONi.
You are welcome!!!all the best!
Thank you for this information sis Mbonie, I’m udabs groupout , currently doing LLB , already working in a law field I’m such a late bloomer 😂but forward we go🎉🎉
You are welcome 😊
I’d like to find out more about economics and econometrics
Okay, will look into it.
Your eloquence is Vusi Thembekwayo level ❤
💯! Imagine arguing in court
Hi Sisi Boni..thank you for this discussion. Yolanda was also a right person . I am very happy for her.She has done well. And Wishing her all the best .
Glad you found value
thank you Nomkhosi for your kind words, much appreciated🧡
Hehehe! Clap once! I am coming let me drink my coffe. I want to write a mini essay regarding the red tape against LLB graduates but not limited to, and how they use their selection criteria ( private firms) to automatically eliminate the township gang...🥺🥺
Please share it with us, we love reading
Very informative Sis Boni, thank you. Can you please inteview an Advocate?
If I can find one! 🤣
Halala
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I have an LLB degree and I can tell you now this qualification is oversubscribed, I urge anyone interested in LLB to think twice I’m currently doing BCom Law in order to be employable… it ain’t easy being a lawyer
Thank you
Hey sister can you also invite someone who did electrical engineering..i really love your content❤️🤗
Okay
Thanks very much Miss Boni for the live education, it was very nice to have gained such beautiful information. But I am asking if how about you also make an interview with someone who did BSc in environment and resources studies because I am a final your student that doesn't know a way forward from here.
Its hard to find them but I will continue to search for it.
@@liferesetwithboni thanks very much, I will really appreciate.
Thank you very much for great interview.
Your guest was amazing, if she keeps going the way she's she will go very far as an entrepreneur even it's not in law, she has 'character'.
She seems very mature,confident, I am sure her dabating skills in school had alot to do with her confidence building for someone coming from a township school she as doing very well, it just shows you what is possible no matter where you are from.
And her moving to GP as a great moving at some point in my career I moved to GP to CPT and it was game changer.
She said GP is very 'receptive' there are alot information in this word she used.
To the host your channel has very big potential in black South Africa market, am being purposeful by saying 'black South Africa market,because most of those to be a wakened in relation to what Yolanda was touching on are mostly blacks in South Africa, who don't seem to have career and real life couch.
Many black South African think that by simply having a good mark at school with guarantee them success in the real world, the truth is NO, 'character' will and confidence, open mindset.
The world we are living in is dominated by the Western culture the sooner Africans get that the better.
Very proud of you Yolanda.
Hello, thanks for taking the time to write to us! I'm sure Yolanda will see this message and write back to you.
Her school must be proud of her! She is such a dynamic young woman! Thanks a lot for your complement, we still have a long way to go! 🌙😍
Thank you very much for your kind words💛
So she took 10 year's 😮
Hey Cc can you please do a video where by your explaining about Bcom business management how much does it earn,what are the subjects required and what are the things that a business management can do.i have done some research but others i don't understand
Hello, this will be hard to find, but I'll try.
Please interview artisans. Electrical engineering
Okay
Hi Ma , thanks for this segment please invite someone of civil engineering career. It can be someone who went to university or tvet.
I've already recorded it, just that I was not happy with the sound.
Thank you for sharing, I would like to know if it's possible to find articles in my 50's?. I'm currently working in hvac industry(as a technician) and I'm currently studying llb via unisa.
Go for it!I dont see why not, Ill ask Yolanda to respond.
Wow! This is an excellent and valuable conversation. More of these empowering and educational conversations Sis Boni.
I appreciate your work 🥰 Will share it with others who may find it useful 🫶🏽
Keep up the great work.
So proud of you Yolanda and wish you the very best in your business journey Sisi 🙏🏽
Thanks my sisi, took a lot to put together cos I didn't want those Zoom interview s 😀😀😀
@@liferesetwithboni🤣🤣 keep going my sister, you’ve got this 💪🏽🙏🏽
@ConqueringSpiritwithK Yolanda is a dynamite! Glad you liked it.
Hey Ma , may you please invite a prosecutor ❤
Hello, all noted!
I guess the sad reality, which this video didn't touch much on, is how much CA actually do earn. You get lucky being hired by a firm that's willing to pay you 10k and up. Small law firms take in candidates but for a very low salary and expectations of the work they need to do goes above their scope as a CA. Some candidates don't even get paid. There are law firms currently hiring admitted attorneys who don't even see 20k. The expectations for one CA receiving nothing and another receiving 33k for the same duties are beyond me.
We didn't touch on this? Really? Are you sure?
@@liferesetwithboni I said much on ma'am. I didn't say at all.
@claudiajessica9677 okay angel I get you . This will ve an ongoing conversation and would like other contributors as well .
I hear you. Unfortunately these are the challenges that really make me not recommend the degree, especially to someone needing to change a situation at home..
Please interview HR Administrators😮😢
Will see for next season! I dont have them this season
Thanks for this. Please research for us which courses can a 40 year old to start a new career.
Yo that would be broad ☺️ just research careers.
Dont limit yourself by age also dont let others do that to you...suggest maybe consider what you are good at and take it from there...we all good at something.
Wanted to say research career s
There are people in their 40s studying medicine. Do what you want
Please do communication science career
That's hard to find.
Comm Science people normally work in corporate communications, strategic communications, PR, marketing and advertising etc.
@oliveronline_ PR is hard, but marketing and advertising should be easy.
Hi Boni. Do you have anything about Investment Bankers, Investment Managers and Investment Analysts etc.?
I will interview one soon, we've arranged time for it. You mean an interview, right?
@@liferesetwithboni Okay great! I will check out for it. An interview would be perfect. I’m a confused 30something year old that is trying to find a career and investment management is on my shortlist.
@@oliveronline_ okay
Hi Ma'am, may you kindly connect me with our guest Yolanda, I would like to do vac work at her law firm, I'm not looking for any remuneration just an opportunity to be exposed to what her firm dies as those are my current majors. 😊
It means you didn't watch the entire video. She speaks about this.
So how long was it when she got her 1st paying client after she had opened her law firm?
I'll ask her to respond
Hi Mpitse, as soon as I opened the doors of my practice I had a client.
Hey can you please get someone who can come and guide us on opportunities relating to Bcom Economics
Yo, hard to find, but I'll search.
@@liferesetwithboni alright no problem I would really appreciate it
Is it all the varsities that are likely to accept a bcom law graduate from a private institution?! 🤔
I'm not sure yet.
Hey guys, here is a video about LLB Degree Salaries. ua-cam.com/video/jpLjQSrODD0/v-deo.htmlsi=yImgvafNJ783Imns
Hi. My dad is 67 years old. he has just registered to study law. He is a retired teacher. He is very fit and active and healthy. I don't think he will be accepted for articles. Do you think this a good idea to continue with this course?
I don't know 💕if Yolanda can answer. There are many options available.
😂😂😂 hes forcing aowa is he not tired he must go rest and relax
@@lebogangkekana7530How old are you? You sound like an inexperienced kid. The only time an ambitious person retires is when they're dead.
Is it possible to do Bcom law with mathlit
check with institution.
Yes, eduvos and varsity college. But not at universities unfortunately.
@JackyHorn so let's say I do bcom law at eduvos can I exchange to varsity level
@@lucitania1762 once you finished Bcom law at the eduvos, you apply to an university for your llb. They will determine how long you need to study, it's usually longer than if you did your bcom at an university. The universities differ. We've just done this research for my son in the same situation. We just need to decide between eduvos or varsity college. Some people think eduvos is too "young", and that varsity college is a safer bet. Dunno yet which one we are going to go with.
Hi um when you have time could you do other one For industrial Psychology?🙌
I need to find volunteers 😀I've spoken to a psychometrist.
Villagers
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Why did you say "Thank God you didn't do chemical engineering"?
Because the guest said she never liked it... so she's saying "thanks God you didn't do chemical engineering" to say thanks you didn't do something you don't like.
Cos they struggle to get jobs in 2023.
Hayi mna andifundanga.uYolanda ubuyaphi emakhaya if akanangxaki nalombuzo.
Not Paarl? 🤣she said Paarl
@@liferesetwithboni ok dankie
I am from Paarl, Western Cape😇
Hi Yolanda. I'm currently in matric and I'm very passionate about law. I’ve been applying to Universities for an LLB and both BCOM law, I'm also passionate about business, hence why I also applied for BCOM law, although people told me that even though I go for the LLB I can also pursue commercial law but I feel like since LLB is a degree that is broad, I don’t think it will channel me into commercial law as much as a BCOM law degree would. Does that make any difference
Hi, she will respond ☺️!
Hi Bathabile, My suggestion is you take up BCom law as well, and after completion of your BCom then venture into LLB, which will be credited by your BCom, so you will do just 2 years of the LLB. This will position you well for Commercial practice. Not to say people with LLB aren't hired in Fraternity, but when it's accompanied by a BCom it's much more advantageous, puts you in a better place to find employment in that sector. I hope this helps.
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