Not only DC locos, but EMUs as well. This is the song of the EMU class 460 of the Czech Railways (nicknamed Tornado thanks to the engines/gearboxes sound): ua-cam.com/video/Tvg36T3u5S8/v-deo.html or an old EMU class 451 of the Czech Railways (nicknamed Frog's Mouth): ua-cam.com/video/-UPOiQD7Hzc/v-deo.html
@@biglightball, it is easier to produce spoked wheels. Also, these wheels has replaceble tires - the only wheel's part, that intensively wears out by running and breaking. No need to recycle the whole wheel, when it would be weared to it's maximum permitted level.
@@biglightball, spoked wheels are easier to produce, but it costs higher for maintenance and replace its tires, if we try to calculate costs for technologically advanced West countries with high man labor costs. It is cheaper to replace weared "solid" wheel with new, than to have maintenance facility and people to replace tires. It is feature of modern global economy. Also, new Western AC 3-phase motor traction technologies reduces wheel wearing and extending its lifetime So, "solid" wheels in modern technology locomotives have acceptable lifetime. These spoked wheels with replaceable tires were perfect for pre-1990 era locomotives, like in this video, with manual traction control, frequent wheel slips and blocks.
I love the snoring of these old trains... here in Brazil there is a specific model (already disabled) that emits an extremely loud traction sound haha and even by video you can't get the true idea of how loud it is.. .. but I mean, personally it's extremely loud! There's a video: ua-cam.com/video/oDa_BUV8mrs/v-deo.html
Very cool thanks. I got it pretty loud on my attached sound system. Reminds me of the sound the original 1950's subway trains in Toronto, Canada made but yours is much louder.
Because both of them have 2nd class traction drive. As we know, traction drive systems have classes, and they can be "nose-suspended" - i.e. non-suspended (1st class), semi-suspended (2nd class) and full-suspended (3rd class). - In 3rd class, the cardan shaft is put between wheelset axle and the gear - this shaft is a hollow tube around the axle. Traction motor is fixed on the bogie and great cog wheel is fixed on hollow tube around the axle. It's full-suspended system. - In 2nd class, the cardan shaft is put between traction motor shaft and the gear - it is installed inner of traction motor tubular shaft. Traction motor fixed on the bogie and great cog wheel is fixed directly on the wheelset axle. It's semi-suspended system, because the gear box (and its great cog wheel) is unsprung mass - and the rest of mechanical parts is a sprung mass. The distance between the centers of two gears (a great cog wheel and a pinion) is a "center distance" - in different classes of traction drive, this distance can be continious (e.g. in 1st class) or intermittent. In this way, cogs on both gears losing their contact patch (when locomotive moving on inertia), and that's the reason - why Skoda locomotives and sovies EMU trains (ER2, ED4M, etc.) have similar gearbox sounds. I hope, I'm not mistaken. Это потому что у них одинаковая конструкция тягового привода. Так, опорно-рамный привод локомотива бывает "2-го класса" (ЭР/ЭД, ЧС-ы, ЭП1) и "3-го класса" (ТЭП-ы, ЭП20). Если вкратце: - У привода 2 класса - полый вал и муфта расположены на ТЭД, а редуктор опирается на ось колёсной пары напрямую - он не обрессоренный: т.о. привод 2 класса считается частично обрессоренным. - У привода 3 класса - полый вал и муфта расположены на оси колёсной пары, а тяговый редуктор опирается на ось колёсной пары через полый вал - он обрессоренный: т.о. привод 3 класса считается полностью обрессоренным. А у тягового редуктора есть понятие "централь": это расстояние между ведущей шестернёй (на ТЭД) и ведомым зубчатым колесом (на колёсной паре). У тяговых приводов разных конструкций, это расстояние бывает постоянным (жёсткая централь) и непостоянным - как в нашем случае. Из-за того что привод 2 класса обрессорен не полностью, а частично - то между необрессоренным зубчатым колесом на оси К.П. и всеми остальными, обрессоренными частями привода - во время движения локомотива возникает болтанка (или резонанс), в результате - зацепление между зубьями передачи то ухудшается - то улучшается, в тяге или на выбеге. Из-за этого мы и слышим похожий звук у ЧС и ЭР/ЭД. Надеюсь - не намолол чушь.
Love the old European DC locomotives and their gearbox growl. CD Class 162-163, and 182 come to mind.
V43 and M41 are also sounding very good.
These are certainly very impressive old locomotives, still working hard after all this time.
And not to mention their lovely buzzing, charming sound!
Not only DC locos, but EMUs as well. This is the song of the EMU class 460 of the Czech Railways (nicknamed Tornado thanks to the engines/gearboxes sound): ua-cam.com/video/Tvg36T3u5S8/v-deo.html or an old EMU class 451 of the Czech Railways (nicknamed Frog's Mouth): ua-cam.com/video/-UPOiQD7Hzc/v-deo.html
DC traction motors allways loud as hell. it cold be heared allmost 3 miles away
I wonder what speed it reached. These random videos UA-cam suggests are sometimes awesome 😂
I can confidently say, at LEAST 10kph. Probably more.
80-90 km/h maybe? I think line speed tops out around 100 for a lot of the network, but I'm fairly confident this class of loco can do at least 130.
I always found these spoked wheels so cool, like steampunk
well the design is probably from the steam era and if it works well there no need to change it 😎
I wonder if they're cheaper to make.
There's less material used but more work needed.
@@biglightball, it is easier to produce spoked wheels. Also, these wheels has replaceble tires - the only wheel's part, that intensively wears out by running and breaking. No need to recycle the whole wheel, when it would be weared to it's maximum permitted level.
@@sergeyblinov4957 ok, if so, then why spoked wheels aren't common? Is it a matter of their strength?
@@biglightball, spoked wheels are easier to produce, but it costs higher for maintenance and replace its tires, if we try to calculate costs for technologically advanced West countries with high man labor costs. It is cheaper to replace weared "solid" wheel with new, than to have maintenance facility and people to replace tires. It is feature of modern global economy. Also, new Western AC 3-phase motor traction technologies reduces wheel wearing and extending its lifetime So, "solid" wheels in modern technology locomotives have acceptable lifetime. These spoked wheels with replaceable tires were perfect for pre-1990 era locomotives, like in this video, with manual traction control, frequent wheel slips and blocks.
3:00 at this point I thought that it was running backwards.....
😂samee
A stroboscopic effects are amazing...
What an unusual and fascinating view; I really enjoyed this.
I love the broken gear sound, when you can hear "second voice" on high speed and some loop sounds
Harmonics?
On trains these aren't even broken,that's how train gears usually sound on the older variations.
Wow that's an awesome pile of engineering going about it's day to day.
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I like the gearbox noise. Reminds me of the class 319s in the UK
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Beautiful! This kind of stuff is pr0n for train nerds like me.
Wtf bro
@@RealistInIdealists817 lol Not literally, it's just an expression that means it's a really cool and enjoyable video.
Nice motor sound ee507 motor with the track clatter from wooden rotten sleepers
Thanks YT algo! , didn't know I had a kink for loco's , but here we are!
I had no idea they bucked that much!!!
Now that's called meditation 😇
Reminds me of VRL travels owned Ashok Leyland bus in India
0:13 tht sound is similar to genos(OPM) when he was activating his body when fighting Saitama holy shit tht was satisfying
super video ...............
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Awesome
I would kill to get this view on a classic GG1
How did you mount camera?
Neodymium magnet from old HDD drive.
@@TC-Rail thank you..
What locomotive is it.
skoda 68e
@@Fikozmeilord thks
Bulgarian class 44 or 45
Or Czech class 242
@@tomin9366 Okay, now i am know. Thanks
No flange on that wheel?
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Does this Loco have DC motors with Slip Rings or what? Cause i hear no commutating brushes or are they that quiet
They are quiet. You can clearly hear the brushes from inside through cooling fans.
No modern loco have asynchronous AC motors with chopper control hence forth why the traction motors are smaller
from 2:48 to 2:52 the direction of movement changes...glitch in the matrix ...............
I love the snoring of these old trains... here in Brazil there is a specific model (already disabled) that emits an extremely loud traction sound haha and even by video you can't get the true idea of how loud it is.. .. but I mean, personally it's extremely loud!
There's a video: ua-cam.com/video/oDa_BUV8mrs/v-deo.html
Very cool thanks. I got it pretty loud on my attached sound system. Reminds me of the sound the original 1950's subway trains in Toronto, Canada made but yours is much louder.
Epic gearbox growl on old EMUs.
WOAH that sounds soooo much like the Dutch Mat'64 : ua-cam.com/video/Tz6FCjDhbKw/v-deo.html
What loco type is this?
sound of that gearbox reminds me a sound of russian train ED4M or ER2
Because both of them have 2nd class traction drive. As we know, traction drive systems have classes, and they can be "nose-suspended" - i.e. non-suspended (1st class), semi-suspended (2nd class) and full-suspended (3rd class).
- In 3rd class, the cardan shaft is put between wheelset axle and the gear - this shaft is a hollow tube around the axle. Traction motor is fixed on the bogie and great cog wheel is fixed on hollow tube around the axle. It's full-suspended system.
- In 2nd class, the cardan shaft is put between traction motor shaft and the gear - it is installed inner of traction motor tubular shaft. Traction motor fixed on the bogie and great cog wheel is fixed directly on the wheelset axle. It's semi-suspended system, because the gear box (and its great cog wheel) is unsprung mass - and the rest of mechanical parts is a sprung mass.
The distance between the centers of two gears (a great cog wheel and a pinion) is a "center distance" - in different classes of traction drive, this distance can be continious (e.g. in 1st class) or intermittent. In this way, cogs on both gears losing their contact patch (when locomotive moving on inertia), and that's the reason - why Skoda locomotives and sovies EMU trains (ER2, ED4M, etc.) have similar gearbox sounds. I hope, I'm not mistaken.
Это потому что у них одинаковая конструкция тягового привода. Так, опорно-рамный привод локомотива бывает "2-го класса" (ЭР/ЭД, ЧС-ы, ЭП1) и "3-го класса" (ТЭП-ы, ЭП20). Если вкратце:
- У привода 2 класса - полый вал и муфта расположены на ТЭД, а редуктор опирается на ось колёсной пары напрямую - он не обрессоренный: т.о. привод 2 класса считается частично обрессоренным.
- У привода 3 класса - полый вал и муфта расположены на оси колёсной пары, а тяговый редуктор опирается на ось колёсной пары через полый вал - он обрессоренный: т.о. привод 3 класса считается полностью обрессоренным.
А у тягового редуктора есть понятие "централь": это расстояние между ведущей шестернёй (на ТЭД) и ведомым зубчатым колесом (на колёсной паре). У тяговых приводов разных конструкций, это расстояние бывает постоянным (жёсткая централь) и непостоянным - как в нашем случае. Из-за того что привод 2 класса обрессорен не полностью, а частично - то между необрессоренным зубчатым колесом на оси К.П. и всеми остальными, обрессоренными частями привода - во время движения локомотива возникает болтанка (или резонанс), в результате - зацепление между зубьями передачи то ухудшается - то улучшается, в тяге или на выбеге. Из-за этого мы и слышим похожий звук у ЧС и ЭР/ЭД. Надеюсь - не намолол чушь.
Why is the wheel-flange on the outside of the rail?
It behind the brake shoes
@@evangiles4403
It should be, as common sense dictates ...... but, I swear, it looks like it's on the outside!
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This doesn't look like a drive wheel.
What do you mean drive wheel on a 4 axle loco all the wheels carry the tractive effort otherwise it would stall
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