Jordan's Gogean should've 100% not been credited in the first place, she wasn't fully around on her twist. However, I would've given credit to Simone's leap as she was (mostly) all the way around. Barbosu had the best Gogean, good height, excellent form, and most importantly, fully around on the 1.5 twist. Barbosu deserved the bronze in the first place and I'm glad that she was finally awarded her well-deserved bronze medal after seeing her break down in tears when Jordan's inquiry was accepted at the end of the competition. Jordan's floor D-Score should've been a 5.8 and stayed that way. After Jordan's initial inquiry, the judges credited her Gogean leap, which bumped her D-Score up to a 5.9 instead of a 5.8 and pushed her up to third place in front of Barbosu. There is no way that her Gogean leap should be credited. Many people do not understand this, but Jordan honestly needed to remain in 5th place because of her poorly executed leap. The judges have now changed Jordan's D-Score back to a 5.8, putting her back in 5th place... which is 100% correct! This is a very sad situation for both Jordan and Barbosu, as well as for Sabrina Voinea (who was wrongfully given a 0.1 penalty for "stepping out of bounds" and then had her inquiry rejected by the judges). However, I believe that Barbosu is the rightful bronze medalist here.
@@lb7617 100% agree with all of this, except Chiles originally had a 5.8 and inquired for a 5.9, not a 5.7 inquiring for 5.8. Unrelated is that Voinea's missing 0.1 of difficulty (she got her full 6.0 in TF) allegedly came from her Popa, not the incomplete switch full. If this was the standard of judging in the final, I'd argue she should have had a 5.8 (losing both), putting all three of Barbosu/Voinea/Chiles at 5.8s.
@@balancebeam Ahh okay, I couldn’t remember Jordan’s difficulty scores lol. Was it confirmed that Sabrina Voinea’s 0.1 penalty was for an out of bounds deduction?
@@balancebeam Very very interesting…. I watched the floor finals live and thought that she may have grazed her left foot on the OOB area before her second tumbling pass, but I’ve gone back and watched her routine multiple times now and it appears to me that she didn’t touch her foot OOB at all. What a messy floor final this was, and don’t even get me started on the beam finals… a complete disaster!
@@lonelyhorse5313 I agree. She had horrible landings on her first tumbling pass (bounced upward and flailed her legs) and on her double layout dismount (low chest and large step forward). Jordan should’ve been nowhere near third place after watching Ana and Sabrina’s routines. Alice D’Amato should’ve even placed higher than Jordan.
She's always had 5.8 floor throughout the Olympics, what makes her coach think she deserved a 5.9 for doing the same exact routine in floor finals lol And the inquiry was accepted in less than 90 seconds which mean they didn't even review her floor routine properly
@@Dianette97 When you make an inquiry, the superior jury (WTC president Donatella Sacchi, Liubov Andrianova) will video review your entire routine and award a new D score. Based on the timing of what went down, they blatantly did not watch the full routine
@@balancebeam Did they really not watch the whole routine? Anyone with gymnastics knowledge can tell clear as day that Jordan’s Gogean wasn’t performed correctly, as she was under-twisted. Many people online saying that Jordan deserved the bronze clearly don’t know how specific skills should be performed and lack knowledge when considering difficulty values.
Jordan also cheated and corkscrewed the beginning of the Gogean leap meaning.she did .25 of the 1.5 Gogean not in the air but turning her foot on the ground which is cheating. She never got credit for the Gogean and both D judges that night determined also and then Donnatella Saachi magically gives her credit and did so on real time..she didn't even watch the video of Jordan which clearly showed she underrotated and did not complete the leap by maybe .5 if you add the corkscrew in to the equation. Jordan did everything right but the Gogean leap! It was blatantly unfair for Donatella to in like 30 seconds give her credit for the Gogean when Jordan failed clearly in completing this leap. I was told it was only Donatella that decided the appeal..that one person should have that power which here was abused is blatantly unfair. Fake podium that night Romania should have been in 3rd. Romania was clearly robbed and Chiles knows it.
@balancebeam This is corruption or blatantly incompetence on the part of the appeals judge, Ms. Donatella Saachi .for something this important at the Olympics, the judges must watch a slow motion video of the leap..if they had done this, clearly it shows Chiles completely underrotated this leap like she did in every other competition. A UA-cam video with Donatella Saachi said Donatella was the SOLE judge who gave Jordan the controversial incorrect credit..this interview with Donatella herself said also she did not review the leap in slow motion video but rather in REAL-TIME...there should be a panel of Appeals judges to review but in this case one woman, Donatella Saachi was the sole person that decided the fate of the bronze medal, to me that is corrupt and puts gymnasts at the mercy of any bias this one judge could have and clearly Donatella Saachi had a blatant bias and incorrectly gave Jordan credit..I am just appalled that one person decides an appeal and can do so in real time as this interviewer disclosed to me when I asked what method Donatella used to decide if the Gogean leap was fully rotated or not. 2 judges decided that Jordan did not complete the leap that night at the Olympics so why should 1 judge saying she did on Appeal outweigh the other 2 judges assessment..do the math..to me this is so corrupt and this appeals process should be changed immediately as it is blatantly unfair 😢
@@denisewalsh6586 If you pause right before all three start the leap, I would argue all of them "corkscrew" into the leap. All their feet point diagonally and turn their foot.
Jordan still deserves her bronze. Having it stripped over a technical error is disgraceful and disgusting. At least we got the most iconic podium moment of the Olympics which was initiated by her.
The stripping is disgraceful, but that doesn't mean she dEsErVeS bRoNzE. Did you not watch the 5-second video? 😂 Did you completely miss the landings on her first and third passes?
Your thinking is clearly flawed. That was a FAKE podium at the Olympics as Chiles never should have been on that podium..video evidence clearly shows Chiles did NOT complete the Gogean leap as she never did in any competition. The real controversy here is that Chiles should have remained in her rightful place of 5th (or 6th given her poor landings )as she did not EARN the bronze medal as she did NOT complete the Gogean leap. Any judge with common sense and intelligence would completely agree after looking at the video of Jordan's clearly underrotated Gogean leap. Romania was robbed that night..what a miscarriage of justice that should never happen again at the Olympics.
Jordan's Gogean should've 100% not been credited in the first place, she wasn't fully around on her twist. However, I would've given credit to Simone's leap as she was (mostly) all the way around. Barbosu had the best Gogean, good height, excellent form, and most importantly, fully around on the 1.5 twist. Barbosu deserved the bronze in the first place and I'm glad that she was finally awarded her well-deserved bronze medal after seeing her break down in tears when Jordan's inquiry was accepted at the end of the competition. Jordan's floor D-Score should've been a 5.8 and stayed that way. After Jordan's initial inquiry, the judges credited her Gogean leap, which bumped her D-Score up to a 5.9 instead of a 5.8 and pushed her up to third place in front of Barbosu. There is no way that her Gogean leap should be credited. Many people do not understand this, but Jordan honestly needed to remain in 5th place because of her poorly executed leap. The judges have now changed Jordan's D-Score back to a 5.8, putting her back in 5th place... which is 100% correct! This is a very sad situation for both Jordan and Barbosu, as well as for Sabrina Voinea (who was wrongfully given a 0.1 penalty for "stepping out of bounds" and then had her inquiry rejected by the judges). However, I believe that Barbosu is the rightful bronze medalist here.
@@lb7617 100% agree with all of this, except Chiles originally had a 5.8 and inquired for a 5.9, not a 5.7 inquiring for 5.8.
Unrelated is that Voinea's missing 0.1 of difficulty (she got her full 6.0 in TF) allegedly came from her Popa, not the incomplete switch full. If this was the standard of judging in the final, I'd argue she should have had a 5.8 (losing both), putting all three of Barbosu/Voinea/Chiles at 5.8s.
@@balancebeam Ahh okay, I couldn’t remember Jordan’s difficulty scores lol. Was it confirmed that Sabrina Voinea’s 0.1 penalty was for an out of bounds deduction?
@@lb7617 Voinea's penalty was for a non-existent OOB, yes
@@balancebeam Very very interesting…. I watched the floor finals live and thought that she may have grazed her left foot on the OOB area before her second tumbling pass, but I’ve gone back and watched her routine multiple times now and it appears to me that she didn’t touch her foot OOB at all. What a messy floor final this was, and don’t even get me started on the beam finals… a complete disaster!
Perfect !!!! That's it! Finally someone. NO credit for NO gogean, the same in qualifying and team finals. Simple as it is!
Chiles was clearly overscored. Clear as day
@@lonelyhorse5313 I agree. She had horrible landings on her first tumbling pass (bounced upward and flailed her legs) and on her double layout dismount (low chest and large step forward). Jordan should’ve been nowhere near third place after watching Ana and Sabrina’s routines. Alice D’Amato should’ve even placed higher than Jordan.
Ana completes the gogean well and she elegantly dances out of the move. Definitely artistic gymnastics.
She's always had 5.8 floor throughout the Olympics, what makes her coach think she deserved a 5.9 for doing the same exact routine in floor finals lol
And the inquiry was accepted in less than 90 seconds which mean they didn't even review her floor routine properly
oh flopdan chiles
Sabina deserved bronze
Did the judges have to look at the video replays in order to credit the Gogean skill after the inquiry was made ?
@@Dianette97 When you make an inquiry, the superior jury (WTC president Donatella Sacchi, Liubov Andrianova) will video review your entire routine and award a new D score. Based on the timing of what went down, they blatantly did not watch the full routine
@@balancebeam Did they really not watch the whole routine? Anyone with gymnastics knowledge can tell clear as day that Jordan’s Gogean wasn’t performed correctly, as she was under-twisted. Many people online saying that Jordan deserved the bronze clearly don’t know how specific skills should be performed and lack knowledge when considering difficulty values.
Jordan also cheated and corkscrewed the beginning of the Gogean leap meaning.she did .25 of the 1.5 Gogean not in the air but turning her foot on the ground which is cheating. She never got credit for the Gogean and both D judges that night determined also and then Donnatella Saachi magically gives her credit and did so on real time..she didn't even watch the video of Jordan which clearly showed she underrotated and did not complete the leap by maybe .5 if you add the corkscrew in to the equation. Jordan did everything right but the Gogean leap! It was blatantly unfair for Donatella to in like 30 seconds give her credit for the Gogean when Jordan failed clearly in completing this leap. I was told it was only Donatella that decided the appeal..that one person should have that power which here was abused is blatantly unfair. Fake podium that night Romania should have been in 3rd. Romania was clearly robbed and Chiles knows it.
@balancebeam This is corruption or blatantly incompetence on the part of the appeals judge, Ms. Donatella Saachi .for something this important at the Olympics, the judges must watch a slow motion video of the leap..if they had done this, clearly it shows Chiles completely underrotated this leap like she did in every other competition. A UA-cam video with Donatella Saachi said Donatella was the SOLE judge who gave Jordan the controversial incorrect credit..this interview with Donatella herself said also she did not review the leap in slow motion video but rather in REAL-TIME...there should be a panel of Appeals judges to review but in this case one woman, Donatella Saachi was the sole person that decided the fate of the bronze medal, to me that is corrupt and puts gymnasts at the mercy of any bias this one judge could have and clearly Donatella Saachi had a blatant bias and incorrectly gave Jordan credit..I am just appalled that one person decides an appeal and can do so in real time as this interviewer disclosed to me when I asked what method Donatella used to decide if the Gogean leap was fully rotated or not. 2 judges decided that Jordan did not complete the leap that night at the Olympics so why should 1 judge saying she did on Appeal outweigh the other 2 judges assessment..do the math..to me this is so corrupt and this appeals process should be changed immediately as it is blatantly unfair 😢
@@denisewalsh6586 If you pause right before all three start the leap, I would argue all of them "corkscrew" into the leap. All their feet point diagonally and turn their foot.
what about rebe
Jordan still deserves her bronze. Having it stripped over a technical error is disgraceful and disgusting. At least we got the most iconic podium moment of the Olympics which was initiated by her.
wrong
The stripping is disgraceful, but that doesn't mean she dEsErVeS bRoNzE. Did you not watch the 5-second video? 😂
Did you completely miss the landings on her first and third passes?
Your thinking is clearly flawed. That was a FAKE podium at the Olympics as Chiles never should have been on that podium..video evidence clearly shows Chiles did NOT complete the Gogean leap as she never did in any competition. The real controversy here is that Chiles should have remained in her rightful place of 5th (or 6th given her poor landings )as she did not EARN the bronze medal as she did NOT complete the Gogean leap. Any judge with common sense and intelligence would completely agree after looking at the video of Jordan's clearly underrotated Gogean leap. Romania was robbed that night..what a miscarriage of justice that should never happen again at the Olympics.