How to Destroy an NBA Legacy: The Downfall of Doc Rivers

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  • Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
  • Is Doc Rivers the true villain that the NBA media paints him out to be?
    Patreon: / dylandoesbasketball
    Twitter: / dylanhoops
    Tracks Used (in order): pastebin.com/TnSwvt7C
    Chapters:
    00:00 - A Hero, or a Villain?
    03:17 - Surpassed Expectations in Orlando
    05:42 - Destroyed Superteam
    07:40 - Goodbye Orlando
    09:27 - Welcome to Beantown
    10:26 - Struggles in Boston
    11:04 - The Famous 2008 Ring
    14:18 - Anticlimactic Ending
    17:41 - Welcome to LA!
    18:52 - 'Lob City' Disaster
    22:39 - Redemption
    24:06 - Why the 2019-20 Clippers Failed
    27:00 - One Last Chance
    29:43 - A Destroyed Legacy

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  • @dylandoesbasketball
    @dylandoesbasketball  Рік тому +109

    Patreon members saw this idea a few days ago. Feel free to join and support the channel! www.patreon.com/dylandoesbasketball

    • @coreythompsonTheOneandOnly
      @coreythompsonTheOneandOnly Рік тому +3

      Hey Dylan, you're getting great 😃👍 at these videos the sound bite you used at maybe 🤔 25:40, the omg 😱 sound bite to enunciate the inefficiency of montrez herrol, you put that at the right 👍▶️ place at the right 👍▶️ time ⌚ ⏰⏰

    • @davesantan6532
      @davesantan6532 Рік тому

      @@coreythompsonTheOneandOnly t Nancy😮

    • @iwishiwasthomasshelby
      @iwishiwasthomasshelby Рік тому +3

      No one has done less with more. The 2008 Celtics win despite of Doc, not because of him.

    • @VandoDaGoat
      @VandoDaGoat Рік тому +1

      @@iwishiwasthomasshelby pplllólmi9o9 oo o

    • @twerktospec
      @twerktospec Рік тому

      Money money money
      Yeah yeah

  • @chad_b
    @chad_b Рік тому +4189

    Doc raising the floor but lowering the ceiling is a great way of describing it

    • @ItIsYouAreNotYour
      @ItIsYouAreNotYour Рік тому +89

      Doc stacking the teams and claiming getting to the championship involves luck is why he's a joke.

    • @sgshumblecrumb6046
      @sgshumblecrumb6046 Рік тому +125

      It's true. When he has an undermanned or injured roster, they play way over their heads (See 48 win Clippers team that had no stars), but when he has lots of talent, he becomes a spineless coward who can't do anything but argue with the refs while his all bench lineups and his hero-balling star players blow another 20+ point lead in the second half. I almost look forward to the games where Philly has one or more of their best players out because they suddenly have ball movement and team chemistry, and I don't knock Joel and James for it as much because I know Glenn has no offensive approach besides "give the ball to Joel, give to ball to James." There's video of Harden saying to him that he thinks they should run pick and roll and Glenn is saying "first, we need to establish a pecking order." He literally enforces a slow, inefficient, iso-ball offense when he has more talented players that he can do that with. So many times Maxey has enough daylight to attack the rim and he just defers to Harden or Embiid because Glenn is in his ear telling him to give it to James or Joel. I don't think even Embiid and Harden want to play that way, it's just that Glenn thinks it's still 2008 and that he can eek out a championship run with 3 all stars playing that way, even though he needed a record amount of playoff games to do so, including a 7 game first round series against the 8th seed. His teams win in spite of him, not because of him (unless he has a mediocre or worst roster).

    • @4392amtrak
      @4392amtrak Рік тому +20

      @sgshumblecrumb6046 I know you'll definitely agree with this, but I bet you even someone with hardly any basketball knowledge could've won that 08 chip with 3 1/2 hofs in which Rondo is that half. Thibs was the mastermind defensively, and KG was that alpha dog they needed. If either Van Gundy, Mike Brown, D'Antoni, or Dwane Casey had won a chip and had Doc's longevity, they would've been looked at as all time great coaches and probably would've accomplished as much as Doc.

    • @tmasst07
      @tmasst07 Рік тому +12

      Arguably the greatest analogy or saying of the new year LOL excellent point

    • @ChrisTheElectrician
      @ChrisTheElectrician Рік тому +5

      Please fire this man. My 76ers would’ve won already won if it wasn’t for him

  • @shermanngjazz
    @shermanngjazz Рік тому +1955

    Never forget that the Clippers immediately made the WCF after Doc left.

    • @Bugzilla021
      @Bugzilla021 Рік тому +179

      If Kawhi didn't get injured, I would've given them a great chance at beating the Suns

    • @captainsimp8864
      @captainsimp8864 Рік тому +170

      @@Bugzilla021 Hell they would have beaten the Suns if Kawhi didn't get injured. And Rivers got lucky that they didn't make it to the finals because that would have made him look like an even bigger fool especially after what he said about Tyronn Lue

    • @pool5863
      @pool5863 Рік тому +73

      overcame two 0-2 deficits too. ty lue the goat

    • @shermanngjazz
      @shermanngjazz Рік тому +47

      @@pool5863 Ty Lue the goat at 0-2 comebacks lol

    • @isiahspencer3028
      @isiahspencer3028 Рік тому +3

      And yeah y'all went to not making the playoffs after he left too 😆😆😆😆😆 the coach you guys got now sucks and if they don't win a championship this year he's probably going to be fired

  • @ShadowThe771
    @ShadowThe771 Рік тому +529

    This video aged like fine wine. After watching the Sixers lose in the semi-finals again, “Doc Rivers coasting off his past success” has been the most factual narrative in the last decade.
    Fun fact, this is the third time that Jimmy Butler has gone to the conference finals after the Sixers dumped him.

    • @ralphwiggum1982
      @ralphwiggum1982 Рік тому +21

      I can honestly say I’ve never heard anyone say doc is a great coach like you said he’s still riding on that championship he brought to Boston an seeing how he bounces from team to team more then Westbrook now is a clear sign he’s a mediocre coach who got lucky with that championship I’d rather have Ty Lou coaching then doc any day

    • @jaredwilliams1758
      @jaredwilliams1758 Рік тому +8

      The Mike McCarthy of the nba idk how people keep hiring him. I’d rather give someone a chance to be a head coach for the first time then hire doc who has statistically proven he cant get it done outside of having rondo Allen Garnett and pierce and still that was one time

    • @chrisdenis3634
      @chrisdenis3634 3 місяці тому +2

      its still aging well with the horrible start for the bucks

    • @LewisBrazelz
      @LewisBrazelz 29 днів тому

      Here we go again, a year later and Doc doing what he does best again! Killed the Bucks season as soon as be showed up lol

  • @monkehp
    @monkehp Рік тому +600

    That comment by Phil Jackson was brutal. "This team has lost more games in the 4th quarter than anybody in the NBA. They know how to lose in the 4th quarter."

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason Рік тому +54

      😂😂😂😂 He was just brutally honest..

    • @lhourdeanthony4237
      @lhourdeanthony4237 Рік тому +14

      @@kenrickeason he was brutally honest. then years later, he and the Lakers got swept by Dallas in the 2011 Western conference semifinals, giving Dallas their only championship ring,

    • @atomsk1972
      @atomsk1972 Рік тому +86

      @@lhourdeanthony4237 They're talking about blown 4th quarter leads and you're talking about a play-off series loss. Apples and oranges.

    • @lhourdeanthony4237
      @lhourdeanthony4237 Рік тому +5

      @@atomsk1972 it just goes to show you, being brutally honest without looking at the karma that lies ahead could be even more brutally painful...that goes to show you that what goes around, comes around...

    • @shotguncrucifix
      @shotguncrucifix Рік тому

      @@lhourdeanthony4237 nah you're just talking some bullshit lmfao

  • @atraina6921
    @atraina6921 Рік тому +2521

    I’ve been saying this from the start. No team or coach has milked a career and legacy off of one nba championship, more than Doc Rivers and the 08 Celtics. They make you think off of just one ring they were a dynasty and that Doc Rivers is a hall of fame coach.

    • @4392amtrak
      @4392amtrak Рік тому +196

      And like I said, it took them seven games for them to get past an 8 seeded Hawks team and a LeBron led Cavs team. And as far as Doc goes, he'll get in the hof one day regardless based off of his longevity in the regular season with him already won 1000 games as a coach.

    • @LankyMofo
      @LankyMofo Рік тому +13

      I’ve always said this. Preach!

    • @robertharris4390
      @robertharris4390 Рік тому +102

      I agree 100% he is vastly overrated the man hasn’t been past the 2nd round since the 2012 ECF. Most game 7 losses & how many 3-1 leads has he blown ?

    • @J-Hue
      @J-Hue Рік тому +25

      I mean, Doc coaching teams up well past their talent level can't be ignored on squads like those pre-Kawhi Clippers and the other squad he won COY for, thr Magic I think.

    • @swim3699
      @swim3699 Рік тому +16

      to be fair he went twice won 1

  • @whodeani2216
    @whodeani2216 Рік тому +170

    The fact that this video dropped 4 months ago and Doc Rivers lost yet ANOTHER Game 7 😭😂😂

  • @bobuJonesu
    @bobuJonesu Рік тому +142

    Who’s here after doc blew yet another 3-2 lead?

    • @thatindiandude4602
      @thatindiandude4602 Рік тому +6

      Here 😊

    • @1987palerider
      @1987palerider Рік тому

      Me😂😂

    • @Cashmoneez
      @Cashmoneez Рік тому +7

      I know we all kinda expected a philly implosion again but It didn't it would be another 3-2 doc x embiid disaster class

    • @RB01.10
      @RB01.10 11 місяців тому

      And then was fired

  • @siphillis
    @siphillis Рік тому +108

    Doc's inability to maintain success really makes you appreciate how Pop, Jackson, and Auerbach got the most out of their teams year after year, roster after roster.

  • @cyrillesu
    @cyrillesu Рік тому +890

    Never forget last year when the Sixers jumped to a 3-0 lead on the Raptors in the 1st round and the main conversation was, rather than how dominant the team looked, how they were going to be the first team ever to blow a 3-0 lead in a playoff series. The Doc Rivers effect.

    • @J-Hue
      @J-Hue Рік тому +30

      Philly's problem isn't Doc. It's that their team is led by two career playoff chokers in Embiid and Harden. Both were choking away series before he got there. The same is true of his Clippers squads sans the Kawhi-PG one where Kawhi and PG hadn't figured out how to play together yet. Doc didn't draw up a play for CP3 to botch 2 late game plays in back to back games trying to draw fouls when nothing was there. And CP3, as great as he is, was collapsing in the playoffs before and after Doc. Twice in N.O. against the Spurs and Nuggets and then in the Finals up 2-0 and then up 3-2 last season. In both the Denver and Mavs series, his team's dropped the final game(s) in record blowouts where the teams seemed to lack any kind of fight at all.
      Doc's biggest problem, again, has been coaching teams with career playoff chokers. When he had guys with killer instinct, they won it all and then made it back to the Finals despite being old as dirt as like a 4 seed.
      Philly will most likely fail come playoff time. Doc will most likely get blamed, but odds are it'll be because Embiid and Harden will do their usual number of playing small in the big moments and games.

    • @seand7042
      @seand7042 Рік тому +43

      @@J-Hue I don't know if that ECF vs Toronto a choke or not that was one of the luckiest shots I've ever seen in my life

    • @thasneemrizvi
      @thasneemrizvi Рік тому +10

      and the crazy part was they almost did blow a 3-0 lead or atleast go to game 7

    • @JoseFranco9
      @JoseFranco9 Рік тому +31

      @@J-Hue Harden is not a carrer playoff choker gtfo. The fact that his team lost in his prime 5 times vs Golden State who is a top 3 team ever is heavily ignored. You only realy could argue he choked vs San Antonio 2017 but other than that he played to his max and never got swept. Embiid on the other hand.....

    • @sgshumblecrumb6046
      @sgshumblecrumb6046 Рік тому +19

      @@J-Hue Even when he won it all, he needed 7 games to beat a 37-45 team in the first round of the playoffs when he had a 66 win team. When they lost in the Finals 2 years later, you know what Phil Jackson said about them during the series if you actually watched the video and you saw what happened. Then there's the Clippers/Nuggets series. That's a cheap excuse to explain choking a 3-1 lead with Kawhi Leonard who damn sure isn't a choker. Embiid and Harden also didn't choke away shit before Glenn arrived. Embiid has been stuck in a dumb organization (that hires Glenn among other things) with no floor spacing on the roster as a back to basket post player and two overmatched coaches (Glenn and Brett Brown.) Harden.....maybe there's some playoff demons there, but his overall numbers in the playoffs are not far off from his career average, and he still went toe to toe with one of the hardest to beat teams ever in the Warriors dynasty during their Durant era. They went 7 games in the WCF against them and had a 3-2 lead before CP3 went down. They probably go on to beat a short handed Cavs team that GS curb stomped for the title. Doc coaches playoff chokers. Those playoff chokers all played for Doc Rivers lol.

  • @TheMilchBroetchen
    @TheMilchBroetchen Рік тому +695

    I always wondered, how much coaching did the 2008 celtics actually needed with the amount of talent they had?

    • @iamidnight9731
      @iamidnight9731 Рік тому +232

      They also have a plethora of great assistant coaches, like the defense master himself, Tom Thiboudeau. Doc was literally handed a golden platter of talent and coaching.

    • @mxhughes
      @mxhughes Рік тому +91

      If the vets have high iq and minimize the ego then there's only so much a coach needs to do unless it's a specific playstyle.Luke Walton got immediate coaching gigs because of him playing step in coaching the warriors in 2016.Dude had absolutely no influence on anything.A fan in the stands coulda did the same shit Walton did which was literally nothing

    • @apple-xx2or
      @apple-xx2or Рік тому +18

      None they could of coached themselves like the the 17 warriors

    • @joelthorstenson5278
      @joelthorstenson5278 Рік тому +12

      @@mxhughes as a Lakers fan I was flabbergasted when he got the coaching job. He was clueless when he played with Kobe and often looked lost on the floor. NOT at all someone I would give a coaching job to

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 Рік тому +9

      Exactly 😂 many coaches could have won with that team

  • @MrRedpaul84
    @MrRedpaul84 Рік тому +62

    I think his resume speaks for itself. He does NOT deserve to be in the same conversation as Popovich, Riley, or Jackson.

    • @ruelandrade5185
      @ruelandrade5185 Рік тому +8

      🙄 how did doc name get beside these 3 great coaches

    • @HooodClassicsTV
      @HooodClassicsTV Рік тому +2

      He is not where near the coach but he has a better basketball career than them cuz he played. Yes Phil and Riley did too but they weren’t as good as Doc

  • @Vdubatron
    @Vdubatron Рік тому +88

    THANK YOU!!! I've been saying this since Lob-City in LAC, when I was forced to pay attention to Docs coaching. Then I moved from SoCal to Philly and Doc followed me! I was preaching the first year here to anyone that would listen how Doc only runs 1 play and doesn't know what to do when a team figures that 1 play out. Now it seems like the book is out. Doc has got to go. He's GOT TO GO!

  • @HorizonOfHope
    @HorizonOfHope Рік тому +287

    That Rudy Tomjanovic isn’t on the all-time top 15 is outrageous.
    He had just one star, and admittedly it was Hakeem, but he squeezed every bit of talent out of that squad. Against Pat Riley, no less.

    • @OH_MY_DOGGG
      @OH_MY_DOGGG Рік тому +1

      If only his Lakers stint could have been fulfilled.

    • @acnicodemus4734
      @acnicodemus4734 Рік тому +27

      @@OH_MY_DOGGG regardless.
      He's a champion coach in Houston for crying out loud. He should be instantly in the list.

    • @adgee5401
      @adgee5401 Рік тому +4

      We discounting Clyde?

    • @pmaigotthat7211
      @pmaigotthat7211 Рік тому

      @@acnicodemus4734yeah so with that logic Tyron Lue is on the list too lol

    • @acnicodemus4734
      @acnicodemus4734 Рік тому

      @@pmaigotthat7211 lol, Rudy was a decorated coach, also won a coach of the year award

  • @kingoffedoras9932
    @kingoffedoras9932 Рік тому +1574

    Not gonna lie, seeing Docs downfall in his first year in Philly brought tears to my eyes. I've never felt pure joy like that before

    • @benjamin-qn7nf
      @benjamin-qn7nf Рік тому +153

      On god 😂 I was tellin all my homies the Hawks would upset Philly, only cause I knew Doc was a choke artist

    • @theuncancelable
      @theuncancelable Рік тому +14

      Still one of the greatest coaches of all time

    • @jeezyhuncho2783
      @jeezyhuncho2783 Рік тому +152

      @@theuncancelable hell naw

    • @theuncancelable
      @theuncancelable Рік тому +4

      @@jeezyhuncho2783 can't disagree with facts boi

    • @jeromeforonda2752
      @jeromeforonda2752 Рік тому +54

      @@theuncancelable no.

  • @dejamike88
    @dejamike88 Рік тому +148

    It’s amazing that Doc is still cashing in that 2008 Celtics championship credit till this day lol

    • @jonathanwashington9199
      @jonathanwashington9199 Рік тому +9

      Kobe Has 5 Would've Had 6 If It Wasn't For Doc Rivers LOL Hell Kobe Bryant Would've Had Two Three Peats In Two Different Eras 2000-2002 And 2008-2010

    • @ruelandrade5185
      @ruelandrade5185 Рік тому +1

      Loldwl i never see one man milk one ring so badly so tyron liu is one of the greatest coach he win a much harder ring lol coming back from 1 3 down while doc losing from 3 1 up lol

    • @dejamike88
      @dejamike88 Рік тому +1

      @@ruelandrade5185 💯true that lol

    • @TheRealtalk617
      @TheRealtalk617 Рік тому +9

      @@jonathanwashington9199 more like Kevin Garnett. Doc is not responsible for that ring. Once KG got hurt and didnt fully recover to what he was before the injury, the Celtics were done. Made another run to the finals but it wasn't the same KG.

    • @Dru2037
      @Dru2037 Рік тому +1

      ​@@jonathanwashington9199 it was Bynum's knee more than Doc.

  • @couragedadawg6210
    @couragedadawg6210 4 місяці тому +143

    Bucks fans are sweating right now

    • @proa007
      @proa007 3 місяці тому +7

      And now they're doing a lot more than that.

    • @MrCasey__
      @MrCasey__ 3 місяці тому +1

      Bucks going to the Finals

    • @user-lo2rf5ly4e
      @user-lo2rf5ly4e 3 місяці тому +11

      @@MrCasey__ HAhah who are you kidding

    • @victor_autopilotliving5786
      @victor_autopilotliving5786 2 місяці тому +4

      Bucks just lost in a blowout a few days ago 😞

    • @bloodhoundo9320
      @bloodhoundo9320 2 місяці тому

      ​@@victor_autopilotliving5786it might be joever for you guys

  • @justfate5912
    @justfate5912 Рік тому +192

    Bro I literally saw this vid in my recommended and it being 31 minutes long immediately made me think of Doc River's 3-1 stature in the league.

  • @andersonlebrun8370
    @andersonlebrun8370 Рік тому +357

    Thank you for making this doc is holding the sixers back so much

    • @idontlikeuidiot2060
      @idontlikeuidiot2060 Рік тому +21

      right weve had so many good players let go because of of his trash coaching players like isiah joe charles bassey and paul reed still not getting minutes

    • @dylanhotrum7354
      @dylanhotrum7354 Рік тому +2

      @@idontlikeuidiot2060 this dude really thinks Isaiah joe Is a sixer still 😂

    • @denan30
      @denan30 Рік тому

      Charles bassey on the Spurs

    • @rahultalkssports1404
      @rahultalkssports1404 Рік тому +9

      Philly has everything besides a good HC

    • @idontlikeuidiot2060
      @idontlikeuidiot2060 Рік тому +1

      @@dylanhotrum7354 my grammar is trash but I meant to say they were let go

  • @pureo_nikku
    @pureo_nikku Рік тому +37

    Thank you for adding some more context to the earlier Doc years. As a 76ers fan I can now point out he wasn’t special his first few in Boston and nearly blew it the Finals run🙄

    • @arnabiarnab3037
      @arnabiarnab3037 8 місяців тому +1

      The Celtics ram should’ve won a minimum two rings

  • @JECZ23
    @JECZ23 Рік тому +41

    I'm born/raised in Boston & I'll be the first to admit that Doc just happened to be at the right place at right time to coach Boston big 3. He's not the worst coach but shouldn't be in high regard either.

  • @garysanders7935
    @garysanders7935 Рік тому +43

    By the editing on this one it seems personal for Dylan

  • @Gravijahz
    @Gravijahz Рік тому +243

    Doc suffers from what many great people do: They begin to think their greatness is to be expected, rather than earned. Their ideas, their views cannot be questioned because of their success. And when there are failures, it must be the players, other coaches, etc because it surely could not be Doc Rivers and his greatness.
    When you have stopped being able to learn, adapt, be wrong, etc you have already lost. You're in the rear view mirror, ready to be replaced by those who have those qualities.

    • @msc2u1
      @msc2u1 Рік тому +4

      💯💯💯

    • @lil_james1584
      @lil_james1584 Рік тому +2

      Facts 💯

    • @bookmoon7244
      @bookmoon7244 Рік тому +14

      Coaches shouldn't have huge ego no matter how successful they are. They are nothing without good players, Lebron could carry trash team to NBA finals, Gregg Popovich can't.

    • @DMalltheway
      @DMalltheway Рік тому +5

      Tom Thibs is one of the main reasons why the Celtics were that good and won a chip

    • @kyhxx
      @kyhxx Рік тому +1

      . etc

  • @jusbandoreborn8947
    @jusbandoreborn8947 Рік тому +24

    This man can’t stop choking, another 3-1 blown lead this time to the celtics 😂

    • @jsteezus
      @jsteezus Рік тому +10

      Was a 3-2 lead this time not 3-1

  • @DwayneIsK1NG
    @DwayneIsK1NG Рік тому +162

    It still blows my mind that someone can blow a 3-1 lead. You were dominating a team and can't win just 1 freaking more? 🤦🏿 it's tough to blow 1 of those, but this dude has done it MULTIPLE times. That's a talent right there

    • @aidanwatson910
      @aidanwatson910 Рік тому +5

      How many minutes did Doc play?

    • @DwayneIsK1NG
      @DwayneIsK1NG Рік тому +44

      @@aidanwatson910Zero. And yes, a lot of blame are on the players, but Doc is NOTORIOUS for NEVER making adjustments to his lineups. Players can only do so much when their lineup is outmatched by a better coach. And besides, he's the ONLY constant in all these blown leads. So you kind of have to put blame on him

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 Рік тому +7

      @@DwayneIsK1NG There isn't really any way around your points. Doc doesn't adjust. Case in point during their series against the Nuggets in the semis in the bubble, Paul George completely fell apart and went stone cold from the field (I mean he wasn't hitting anything, nor was he rebounding well). Did Doc take him out and have any of his bench players take over in an attempt to spark the offense? Nope. He kept playing him starters minutes, in late game situations, despite the fact that his shooting cratered. Same thing with Simmons against the Hawks. Simmons fell apart like an old Schwinn left out in the rain. Doc kept him out there. I mean Trey Young, who's a fraction of the size of Ben Simmons, made him look like an absolute punk. For whatever reason Doc doesn't pull guys when they're not playing well.

    • @kingtachalla6181
      @kingtachalla6181 Рік тому +1

      ​@@aidanwatson910ppl defending doc in 2023 is crazy asf

    • @aidanwatson910
      @aidanwatson910 Рік тому +1

      @@kingtachalla6181 I'm not defending him I'm saying a much of a notorious choke job coach he is so are a lot of players he's coached. And I'm also not going to act like NBA coaching in general is effective without the right couple Elite level plays, like the Celtics has and were able to overcome Doc's coaching for 1 championship when we should have had 3. Blame dispersion.

  • @crablord7934
    @crablord7934 Рік тому +73

    IMO Rivers knows how to coach a bunch of underdogs since he knows giving the ball to them all the time or going superstar centric doesn't work with those teams, yet when he has next level talent he relies on utilizing them so much he doesn't know how to adjust whenever opposing teams sniff out his rigid schemes. A lot of his collapses are opposing teams making swift in game adjustments to hit them where it hurt, with Doc responding by contributing as much as a papaya on the bench area.

    • @calicocalpico
      @calicocalpico Рік тому +11

      It's like when you first start playing a fighting game and don't know any special moves, you rely on fundamentals and solid basics. Then when you learn the projectiles and uppercuts, you become reliant and predictable on over-usage. All the dynamic skill goes out the window and becomes focused on "I'm going to hit them with this hadoken right after I get up"

  • @henrysmith4984
    @henrysmith4984 Рік тому +55

    It’s always a good day when Dylan posts

  • @lalovillaverde2877
    @lalovillaverde2877 Рік тому +10

    Well here for an update. Doc just blew a 3-2 lead at home against the Celtics…. Doc was fired from the 76ers. (2023 playoffs)

  • @chaegwan-jin1487
    @chaegwan-jin1487 4 місяці тому +12

    This deserves a rewatch now, given current events around the Bucks... lol

    • @FreshPrincex4
      @FreshPrincex4 4 місяці тому +1

      Giannis about to spend the rest of his prime experiencing choked leads

  • @krisa7910
    @krisa7910 Рік тому +66

    Honestly, never thought Doc was that great of a coach. The wins he got were with super loaded teams.

    • @iamidnight9731
      @iamidnight9731 Рік тому +4

      He rode the coat tails of great players AND assistant coaches. Proof that he aint that great is his inability to make adjustments when it matters most, hence the 3-1 curse. 🤣

    • @DMalltheway
      @DMalltheway Рік тому +4

      Thibs helped him with that defensive scheme

    • @etiennebunbury1285
      @etiennebunbury1285 Рік тому

      Typical of white people to say that a black man’s success as a manager or coach of a team is in spite of him!
      What have you inspired or won…

  • @thomas_the_cat
    @thomas_the_cat Рік тому +19

    doc has been living-off that 2008 reputation ever since...

    • @lamchunting856
      @lamchunting856 Рік тому +1

      Seriously how does he keep getting a job

    • @Bearsfan15654
      @Bearsfan15654 Рік тому

      @@lamchunting856 diversity and he kisses ass to the right people. Mind you I’m saying this as a black man, the man is a dynasty killer.

    • @kingston4313
      @kingston4313 Рік тому

      @@lamchunting856 he’s top 10 coaches of all time

  • @Acidknights
    @Acidknights Рік тому +21

    And the legend continues 😂

  • @justhereforthememes536
    @justhereforthememes536 Рік тому +15

    As a Celtics fan, we should’ve won 3 chips minimum with those big 3/4 teams. Refs screwed in 2010, Perk and KG injuries were massive, but every team experiences hardship and even an average coaching performance could’ve held the team down. “Thanks for 08 I guess” is spot on, so much potential left on the table even if they did hit the home run once.

    • @catchcan221
      @catchcan221 Рік тому +4

      Screwed my ass. Lakers shot 32.5% in Game 7 and ya’ll still couldn’t finish them. Ya’ll held Kobe to 6/24 shooting and still lose. Ya’ll had a 13 point lead late in the game snd still lost.

    • @MistaTofMaine
      @MistaTofMaine 5 місяців тому

      ​@@catchcan221yep if I recall right nobody could hit crap that game 7 and pau gasol was probably best player.

  • @lessondburn3971
    @lessondburn3971 Рік тому +50

    Wow. I never heard his quote about Ty Lue was sitting next to me so nothing will change when he's the coach... Mf is sad. Lacking self accountability is literally the worst quality in a head coach. Bc we all know when u win, the coach gets none of the credit. And when u lose, he gets all of the blame... Well, except for this guy obviously. Philly does seem to be the perfect landing spot for him tho, bc he's also with a couple of known playoff chokers who tend to get injured or come up small when it matters the most. Embiid and harden also severely lack accountability. Like it's hilarious that they blamed Simmons in 2022, yet they had the same outcome last season.. and they all lookin like the spiderman meme, pointing at each other til this day, which is why the same exact thing will happen. Embiid will get a toe nail injury, Harden will put up 6 pts in the deciding game of a second round series vs the Cavs or sum shit.. Then Rivers will get a contract extension.

    • @RacksonRacksonRibss
      @RacksonRacksonRibss Рік тому +8

      Right. Lacking self-accountability is the worst trait any leader or manager can have - no matter the industry. I dunno how he gets away with it (oh right that one ring 15 years ago where he had 3 HOF’ers in their prime on the same squad).

    • @lessondburn3971
      @lessondburn3971 Рік тому +6

      @@RacksonRacksonRibss 🤣🤣 Every member of that team juiced tf out of that one ring, w the exception of Ray.. u would think they won about 3 the way they talk Abt themselves

    • @paulyramone1
      @paulyramone1 Рік тому +2

      Last season Embiid had a busted face and hand, and Harden was far from fully fit and had only been with the team for about three months. To lose that series to a very good Miami Heat team under those circumstances was no disgrace. I get a lot of the criticism of Rivers, and agree with some of it, but this video is just a hit-piece with a clickbait title designed to maximize views. As a Sixers fan I hope this current group (which is much deeper and more connected without crybaby Simmons) wins it all and silences the haters.

    • @lessondburn3971
      @lessondburn3971 Рік тому +2

      @@paulyramone1 Nets and Celtics i can't see losing to the sixers. Too many weapons. maxy is the only player I see that has that dawg in him. T Harris, harden etc... Ehh idk. I'm not a fan of any team particularly but for u I hope I'm wrong

    • @nnnp634
      @nnnp634 Рік тому +5

      You described it perfectly. Rivers said they weren't expected to win it all in the season when they lost to bloody Hawks. Embiid blamed Simmons that season, and then blamed Harden next season. He wasn't wrong, but that's not the way to do things. While it is true that Sixers would've been champions if everyone played like Embiid, the same could be said for any other team with a top 10 player. If Joel wants to be the leader he has to carry the team both on and off the court and it's probably too late for Rivers.

  • @cjmoss51
    @cjmoss51 Рік тому +193

    The Magic bit is insane. Both because a team with Duncan, McGrady, Grant Hill, Doc would have been insane AND the fact that all 3 of the players are in the HOF regardless. Doc himself has a claim to a HOF induction just as a coach for how many wins he racked up over the years.

    • @starastro4591
      @starastro4591 Рік тому +7

      Yeah and grant hill was always injured. We never got to even see a full season of what him and mcgrady would have looked like together

    • @ItIsYouAreNotYour
      @ItIsYouAreNotYour Рік тому +13

      He doesn't deserve HOF. Longevity has nothing to do with HOF. He won once with a stacked af roster. The fact this guy gets job after job is remarkable.

    • @ayeyobossman6151
      @ayeyobossman6151 Рік тому +5

      dude has had top talent on every team he has coached other than (arguably) the magic. Of course he’s gonna have a lot of wins

    • @4392amtrak
      @4392amtrak Рік тому +2

      @itsyourenotyourstupid9045 If Mike Brown, D'antoni, Van Gundy brothers, or Dwane Casey was coaching the 08 team and had the longevity of Doc, they would've been looked as all-time great coaches and would've been as accomplished as him.

    • @DMalltheway
      @DMalltheway Рік тому +2

      Sad that he wouldn’t let Duncan’s family travel with the team otherwise he’d retire a Magic.

  • @AL-yk9on
    @AL-yk9on Рік тому +2

    man your videos are so well put together

  • @johnpaulkerrigan7975
    @johnpaulkerrigan7975 Рік тому +54

    As a Celtics fan who watched these finals runs year after year it’s hard to not think we could have had atleast one more championship if it wasn’t for docs inconsistency

    • @presidential3228
      @presidential3228 Рік тому +8

      no its called kobe bryant 😂😂😂

    • @ultimateyagerman
      @ultimateyagerman 4 місяці тому

      ​@@presidential3228 kobe lost the first meeting in 2008, kid 🫵🤡
      Go finish your juice box

  • @joelman1989
    @joelman1989 Рік тому +153

    I’m literally saving these videos to show my kids in 10 years. Because lots of channels explain this stuff. But you have a talent for making a person feel like they are right in the moment not just learning about it after. Paying attention not just to the facts but the humans and their desires, emotions, fears etc.

    • @TonyPajamas24
      @TonyPajamas24 Рік тому +3

      Bot 🤡

    • @20marvelman
      @20marvelman Рік тому +2

      He gets a lot of things wrong for a summary channel, they didn’t have 4 all stars until 2011

  • @nadiA-em6uh
    @nadiA-em6uh Рік тому +56

    As a Sixers fan this hurts cause I need to see a championship soon

    • @hrebientony
      @hrebientony Рік тому +42

      Your window will close before you know it. Get that man out of there.

    • @Pleebian94
      @Pleebian94 Рік тому +24

      Go win one in 2K because Doc is gonna Doc.

    • @mangobananana
      @mangobananana Рік тому

      you got self claimed mvp overrated never won a 1st team nba Embiid + overrated trash coach doc gluck

    • @ashrunzeda4099
      @ashrunzeda4099 Рік тому +16

      Embiid will suffer the fate of Iverson I tell you. Wasted potential.

    • @mrsky67
      @mrsky67 Рік тому +3

      You’re not winning anything with Doc rivers 💀

  • @itstaemonson
    @itstaemonson 2 місяці тому +5

    I’ll never forget when Josh Smith said that Doc’s wife left him because he didn’t know how to make “ late game adjustments”

  • @spectacularlysentimental
    @spectacularlysentimental Рік тому +1

    Excellent video! I am impressed each time I watch one of your videos. I really appreciate all the effort!

  • @lecatbuddyforever9258
    @lecatbuddyforever9258 Рік тому +9

    Love the content and hope it keeps coming

  • @druft7303
    @druft7303 Рік тому +4

    love the new editting style, can tell you've upped your game

  • @slashismyhommie8182
    @slashismyhommie8182 Рік тому +14

    Doc was overrated most his coaching career. He won ONE championship with a team that in all honesty SHOULD have been a dynasty type of team.
    Instead, that team was one and done. He refused to coach during a rebuild (one that was fairly a quick one). Went to a Clippers team that was built to "win now" then he got Kawai Leonard and PG13 to "win now" again. Then went to a Philadelphia team with superstars that again, is one of the better constructed teams talent wise.
    Doc Rivers has been overrated because he rode coattails of Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce.

  • @terenceflynn4555
    @terenceflynn4555 Рік тому +16

    Doc is to basketball what Joe Maddon is to baseball: they can get you to the playoffs, but when the lights are brightest they can make head-scratching decisions that can cost their team the season. They also both won rings despite their poor performances ALMOST cutting those hopes short.

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason Рік тому +4

      Let them get you into the playoffs and switch them out for somebody else.. 😂😂 to make sure it's no screw ups..

  • @Buggie...
    @Buggie... Рік тому +9

    Man I love this style of content keep it up

  • @Big73Red
    @Big73Red Рік тому +15

    I’ve always looked at Doc the same way I looked at Tony Dungy in the NFL. Both are great regular season head coaches. But once in the playoffs they have one of their glaring weaknesses come out and ruin their team’s chances of winning.

  • @thlin
    @thlin Рік тому +9

    and... he does it again

  • @couragedadawg6210
    @couragedadawg6210 Рік тому +10

    AND.... HE'S GONE
    AND NOW HE'S BACK

  • @Bale4Bond
    @Bale4Bond Рік тому +179

    What has Doc actually done successfully besides from coaching that one Celtics team to a championship?

    • @4392amtrak
      @4392amtrak Рік тому +62

      And in that run, it took them seven games to get past an 8 seeded team and a LeBron led team in which he shot 35% that series. U can also make an argument that Thibs was the unofficial head coach that team.

    • @thelosingimpossible
      @thelosingimpossible Рік тому +38

      @@4392amtrak LeBron wasn't shooting 35% because he wasn't feeling well, he shit 35 cuz the defence was perfectly focused on him and his team was shite

    • @4392amtrak
      @4392amtrak Рік тому +24

      @@thelosingimpossible That's a good point. That Celtics team was one of the greatest defensive teams of all time with KG, Perk, Tony Allen, Posey, etc.

    • @sydguitar99
      @sydguitar99 Рік тому +39

      He had prime KG, Pierce, Ray Allen and a young Prodigy in Rondo..What coaching did he actually have to do LMAO

    • @mangobananana
      @mangobananana Рік тому +27

      @@sydguitar99 exactly lol if anything Doc limited them to just one championship

  • @timothy9979
    @timothy9979 Рік тому +11

    Dylan starting off 2023 with a banger

  • @steelcurtain187
    @steelcurtain187 Рік тому +1

    This was a great retrospective. I’m gonna check out some more of your stuff for sure

  • @leeswift7883
    @leeswift7883 Рік тому +17

    Wait a minute, why'd THIS video somehow come across my algorithm today?

  • @MrDewayne
    @MrDewayne Рік тому +25

    Doc also haven't coach a team pass the second round since 2012

  • @levnz
    @levnz Рік тому +9

    amazing quality as always

  • @raneynewman8315
    @raneynewman8315 3 місяці тому +12

    This is aging well

  • @Scuba-Steven
    @Scuba-Steven Рік тому +6

    Just lost another game 7. Time to sit down, Doc.

  • @richboyprado
    @richboyprado Рік тому +11

    This aged extremely well

  • @dattebayo6466
    @dattebayo6466 Рік тому +8

    Another great in-depth video, Thank you Dylan!

  • @Not-Applicabl
    @Not-Applicabl Рік тому +10

    lol this video aged so well already

  • @kevinlawrence8580
    @kevinlawrence8580 Рік тому +18

    It seems to me it appears that Doc Rivers can't handle the pressure of high expectations. Or it could be he does not prepare his team well.

  • @irraoclair6353
    @irraoclair6353 Рік тому +4

    Dude I love these vids, I need more.

  • @ehi_ij
    @ehi_ij Рік тому +9

    I just wanna say I was having a pretty meh day and I had no passion to do anything but seeing you post gave me a spark of excitement and enjoyment simply by seeing the notification so you might not see this but thanks

  • @urbg1661
    @urbg1661 Рік тому +6

    Gonna need an update here real soon 😆

  • @ninjxex
    @ninjxex Рік тому +8

    Honestly thank you for your videos I’ve always found basketball interesting but having these stories explained for a basic simpleton like me is amazing and I can’t get enough ❤

  • @EmmanuelAniTheSchism
    @EmmanuelAniTheSchism Рік тому +9

    Came back to your channel after leaving it a while back: I have to say the videos are done much better now. With an emphasis on nuance, there's a lot more avenues you can go down, making it easier in terms of presenting your case! You're probably never going to read this, so normal probably realize but good job!

  • @thekidblack111
    @thekidblack111 Рік тому +14

    Who here around game 7 smh 😂

  • @samkiller555
    @samkiller555 Рік тому

    Great video, really well put together and interesting.

  • @mathewerenberger7275
    @mathewerenberger7275 Місяць тому +5

    Can we get a part2 when he destroys the bucs

  • @andrewvaldez8689
    @andrewvaldez8689 Рік тому +7

    Time to make a Part 2

  • @nicktime5841
    @nicktime5841 15 днів тому +7

    Who is here after the Bucks got cooked in the first round

  • @MrOctober44
    @MrOctober44 Рік тому +1

    Great job as always Dylan. 👏👍

  • @Apollo05
    @Apollo05 Рік тому +9

    I'm watching this the day Doc blew another 3-1 lead against the Celtics 😮‍💨

    • @wicked521
      @wicked521 Рік тому +8

      3-2*

    • @Apollo05
      @Apollo05 Рік тому +2

      @@wicked521 the curse is lifted 😭😂

  • @buffetize
    @buffetize Рік тому +3

    Another incredibly well made video. Love it!

  • @aldyrasyid
    @aldyrasyid Рік тому +11

    Perhaps it was Garnett, Pierce, Rondo, Allen who were good and not Doc 🤣

  • @koreshcreations7007
    @koreshcreations7007 Рік тому +1

    The editing in this video is spectacular!!!

  • @aappaapp6627
    @aappaapp6627 Рік тому

    Dylan you do such a good job with these videos bro

  • @InsaneTrickShots
    @InsaneTrickShots Рік тому +15

    No one’s ever done less with more than doc rivers.

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 Рік тому

      Can you give an example of wtf your talking about

    • @uncoolanon4158
      @uncoolanon4158 Рік тому

      idk if youre joking or not, but pls be joking

  • @MrNat10
    @MrNat10 Рік тому +12

    25:42 the “awww my gawd” had me weak 😂😂😂 nice touch

  • @guyturner8554
    @guyturner8554 Місяць тому +12

    Whos here in 2024 with Doc and the Bucks?

    • @MrBronx61
      @MrBronx61 22 дні тому +1

      To be fair, Milwaukee got hit hard by the injury bug.

    • @bloodhoundo9320
      @bloodhoundo9320 12 днів тому

      ​@@MrBronx61Poor Giannis

  • @danvol3835
    @danvol3835 Рік тому +6

    I can't believe that it took some people all this time to see Doc's shortcomings as a championship coach. Top 15? Psshaw!
    Yeah, he's a good coach, but not great. Teams should use him as a rebuilding coach, then hand over the team to a more competent coach... Kinda like what Golden State did when they hired Kerr to put them over the top.

  • @learnwithsofiajade
    @learnwithsofiajade Рік тому +3

    always a great watch when you upload fam.

  • @dbzfan4evermj233
    @dbzfan4evermj233 Рік тому +8

    You need to update this video bro 💀

  • @thomazdelamare708
    @thomazdelamare708 Рік тому

    Great video my bro!! Love your content, post more frequently!! My blessings!

  • @mustafagilani443
    @mustafagilani443 Рік тому +10

    anyone here after doc got fired…

    • @PatNeedhamUSA
      @PatNeedhamUSA Рік тому +4

      UA-cam algorithm is savage for recommending this after yet another game 7 loss 😂

  • @gutenbird
    @gutenbird Рік тому +62

    Doc is as good of a coach as he is a doctor.

  • @papajohncena2516
    @papajohncena2516 11 місяців тому +7

    I’m pretty sure Doc has won more playoff games for Atlanta as a coach than when he actually played for them.

  • @hollowfox
    @hollowfox Рік тому +1

    your videos are always so great, clear and exciting to watch. thanks dylan

  • @LewisBrazelz
    @LewisBrazelz 29 днів тому +4

    A year later and here we are, coaching the Bucks out of the playoffs in the 1st round. Shoutout to Doc, 18 years later youre still milking that 1 ring Boston won you

  • @j.jtheboyy5088
    @j.jtheboyy5088 Рік тому +40

    As a die hard clipper fan this man is responsible for my crippling depression

    • @Unidentified_userr
      @Unidentified_userr Рік тому +4

      I’ll never get over playing Montrez against jokic. I never seen a man get cooked like that. I’m not sure that one would ever go away

  • @lacerdaph23
    @lacerdaph23 Рік тому +9

    Tatum just drop 50 on docs head

  • @Junior-ts1xg
    @Junior-ts1xg Рік тому +5

    14.05.2023 Doc Rivers just lost to the Celtics in a game 7. Again.

  • @Jayden.Dean25
    @Jayden.Dean25 Рік тому +10

    He was a great coach when he coached the greatest team of all time in 2k15

  • @blxnkz480
    @blxnkz480 Рік тому +5

    Love this man’s videos. I mean documentaries

  • @Herb23
    @Herb23 Рік тому +5

    We need an update vid

  • @emcee_spokesman
    @emcee_spokesman Місяць тому +3

    Milwaukee Bucks currently on that Glenn Rivers Struggle Train

  • @mikewilson8205
    @mikewilson8205 Рік тому +7

    Great video! I think you could’ve went into a little more detail on Docs coaching during those early battles with Cleveland lebron. Really just out coached Cleveland

  • @98091238
    @98091238 Рік тому

    A video that gets better with time... Great channel

  • @ItzM36Spadez
    @ItzM36Spadez 4 місяці тому +5

    Now he’s with the second seed bucks

    • @LunaticTheCat
      @LunaticTheCat 3 місяці тому +1

      And now, just three weeks later, they are 3-7 under Doc and have fallen to the 3 seed while being just 1 game in the loss column away from the 5 seed.

  • @thehaus6998
    @thehaus6998 11 місяців тому +3

    25:00 I don't blame PG or Kawhi tbh, Rivers completly shut down training in the team, they didn't train togather, a newly formed team, which destroyed their ability to pass to eachother, read their own tendencies, and play united, with key players not being in the floor, the team was a hot mess, the fact they won 3 games with his bum coaching is spectacular