Kirby's Dream Buffet Review / ONLINE RANT
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Kirby’s Dream Buffet is a fun little game that does many things right that Nintendo games have been missing on, but it still has one common problem… The online is awful.
/ johnnyzaccari
#Kirby #DreamBuffet #Nintendo - Ігри
Not having 4 player local multiplayer really sucks, this would've been the perfect party game.
While it does suck, it would probably cause a shitload of lag, which would suck even more honestly. HAL definitely excluded it for a reason. That, or Nintendo forced them to axe it to emphasize online play
@@mps64 it's definitely because the frame rate would have sucked since there's times in two player that it can barely keep up
I saw maximilian dood play local wifi with 4 player it's also bad
@@ext609 🤔
Honestly Nintendo needs fix their damn online I ain't paying up for a crappy online subscription if they never fix it well screw it I will probably never have an online experience.
my gripe with the game is the lack of single console multiplayer options, only 2 players on same switch and it's restricted to CPUs, not everyone has 4 switches with 4 copies of the game lying around, sometimes we just wanna sit around the same tv and play a 4 player party game like normal
It’s like Splatoon?
@@wifi961 Yeah pretty much
You are not suppose to have 4 Switch consoles, you are suppose to have 4 friends that each have their own Switch and copies of the games.
@@mrdrybonestv most party games don't work like this thougu
Because the switch is a portable and they're treating like a portable
The online experience in Nintendo has (to me) always been different for everyone. But here It's really noticeable.
I think it's how the connection stuff works based on proximity a lot. I've not had particularly many issues (even on Mario Maker 2 which uses this similar waiting for the person behind on connection) as someone in the UK, which is a lot smaller than say, America.
"In 2022 I hope my online works today but don't you worry it is only $20 so it is ok to have terrible online in the year 2022."
I love that argument.
I know its multiplayer focused but my main issue is that I wish it had a story mode cause the gameplay is really fun. I've been playing it solo & sometimes online and it's just fun. If it had a story mode where kirby fights some food based bosses & master hand had the dream fork as the final boss I'd love the heck outta it even if it was a small story. It would be way more replayable as well as what's already there.
Master hand with the dream fork is a brilliant idea!
@@sethfeldpausch4337 it's already in the game too. In battle royale mode you see him using the fork to remove platforms, inclines, and such. Hes just ensuing chaos in that one mode the whole time throwing strawberries from a basket & using prongs to get the guy in first. Though a full blown boss battle in a short story mode were he could do more with the fork would be cool.
@@AndroidHarris speedrunners would be all over that
I was wondering if the ChiGuy I saw online was actually you
The online was definitely a mess a lot of the times, pretty disappointing since offline this game is pretty fun
Anyone could be chiguy on switch. I hate Nintendo
Had only one freeze instance, right before a race started, and only a few hiccups here and there, but nothing this bad where it was frame by frame during the race. So I am unsure how to call this
yeah it isn't actually that bad, its like 1 out of 10 races are a bit laggy for me
This “waiting for the slowest player” system does honestly work well and avoid desync moments when everyone has good connections, but one single bad one is going to bring it down badly. Depending on the size of your region (like if you were playing in the UK vs playing in America), proximity possibly also matters for connection.
I agree! Nintendo makes phenomenal games, and they act like they want to get with the times by adding online to everything, yet they STILL haven’t properly updated their infrastructure to allow for stable online experiences. They either need to fully commit to online centered games, or go back to making single player experiences.
It isn't there infrastructure that is the issue. It is the code they use for how the game is syncing the players together. Japanese companies/developers have been very slow in this regard as when they test it in Japan due to the small area and high population, it works really well and they don't seem to consider the rest of the world where populations are more spread out over much larger distances. Look at how long it took Japanese fighting games to implement GGPO or the own version of it competently. It was over a decade, and even still some of there games use the older inferior version or a poorly implemented version of ggpo (Street Fighter 5 for example) which means decade old indie fighting games like Skull Girls and meme Fighting games have had better online then the biggest Japanese developed fighters.
Basically there seems to be an insistence among Japanese devs for it to be done there way, and even when other proven ways exist and have for a long time they are very slow to incorporate it themselves, or they have to try there own twist on it which has thus far always resulted in worse outcomes. This is the trap Nintendo seems to have fallen into and why the online is so poor.
The online has been pretty consistently smooth for me so far, only lagging every now and again.
They expect you to pay a modern price for an online service that's not even up to 2005 standards
It sucks HAL Labs has to be affected by Nintendo's incompetence to have a stable player base for online multiplayer
Personally I don’t get the whole ordeal about this. Modern online games had crappy freemium most of the time case in point Fifa games and cod games. I kinda wished that we allowed to reflect first and allow the game to settle a week and allowing Hal/Nintendo to improve the game. I’m kind of burnt out on the critic side of things when it comes to anything Nintendo related.
@@mrconroy4672 You clicked on a rant video... choose something else?
@@ShoutHouse I came to here because I’m a bit frustrated with the criticism of this game. The fact that a small problem of online is overblown when I had it working on my side is telling of ChiGuys bias in the video. His video isn’t horrendous by all means, but I do think he should’ve reflected first before putting it out there.
@@mrconroy4672 if his experience with the game was it lagging every match then there's nothing to reflect on, he said the game itself was good but the connection killed his experience.
@@dimolto8821 True, which is why I am insisting for Nintendo to do better as well. Wasn’t huge on him covering on that.
As someone who's put up with Mario Maker 2's unholy nightmare of a versus mode for three years, I can safely say that that I've adapted to lag enough to not mind it too much in this game by comparison, but it really shouldnt've come to this point. I really hope Nintendo fixes their internet issue once and for all some day.
And we adapted to the extreme delay with controlling games on ps3... But going back to it is damn near unplayable
Still laughed my ass off when Sakurai recommended a Lan Cable to play smash online.
Boomer sakurai is so funny
I feel like I already put more hours in Kirby's Dream Buffet then Mario Strikers Battle League.
Sheesh.
As expected Chiguy tells it how it is and make nintendo defenders look like clowns
🤓
@@Bruh08 🤡
@@IwoofforMakimaonly you are literally an npc bro get a job
@@Bruh08 oh boy the nintendo defenders have begun thier march😂
Protip: If you get a jello in race mode, don’t use it until the final cookie wall. Enjoy your first place cake.
ty daddy uwu
I feel like the game itself has input latency as well. Rolling around can take time to accelerate and the jumping definitely is off by nearly half a second both offline and online. Other than that, super fun game regardless. I’ve only encountered a few online matches that were terrible and I have played for several hours already!
This would have been a blast to play 4-player split screen on a projector.
This is really sad because Kirby fighters 2 actually had some pretty good internet but super kirby clash did had bad internet
Ah yes, food guys, fall guys but food.
ChiGuy like anything challenge (impossible 99% will fail)
When I went to download it I was pleasantly surprised to pay only 15 dollars bc I was ready to shell out 60.
My online experiences have been hit and miss. When it lags I can't even control my Kirby. It's over for me.
I wish there was a racing mode only. I do well in the races but I lose everything in those battles.
Super cute game. Love all the textures. I'm gonna eat so much cake
Personally in my 5 hours of playing this game so far I've experienced little to no lag and input delay, and my internet sucks. When I played fall guys on the switch I experienced a crash for a quarter of the games, which sucks because of how long it takes to get into a game and play the game.
I think it depends on where you live, because I live in the Netherlands and I get a lot of screen stutters and input delay
@@RobinsMusic That would make sense. Honestly it just sucks that the online mode is almost unplayable for some people.
Could you imagine if they added an Air Ride mode to the races
the input lag REALLY fricks me up. those sections of races where you take a super tricky and slim path for a shortcut are near impossible with the internet lag
it's messed me up a lot and its stupidly annoying
i honestly want to buy this game but i did not see a mention of nintendo switch online
trying to ask if the game uses nintendo switch online because i dont know if it has it or not
Hey do you know whether or not Kirby's Dream Buffet suffers the same problem as Kirby Fighters 2 with being region locked? What I mean is, can you only have random matches with people online from your own country rather than all around the world excluding friend match ups. The only online multiplayer Kirby game that I know of that isn't region locked is Super Kirby Clash and furthermore, that game is FREE and I have played with a lot of Japanese players.
ive been saying that 20 dollars is not worth it considering how the bad the online is from the getgo and back in 2018 people were saying oh its the price of a pizza its not that bad and look where we are now
The pizza costs more now?
I feel that the reason why they're doing this is that ever since the pandemic started players and viewers spent most of their time playing online, so Nintendo pretty much try to piggyback that momentum to make money. I recently heard that players are now leaving their homes meaning that they are leaving the online services. So hopefully, they will finally wake up and see the reception over their lack of content.
I kinda doubt they'll wak up from that, ngl.
Eh, they are doing a little bit better, let’s keep encouraging that.
I rarely came across problems when playing online. Occasional lag, but for the most part it was playable.
Honestly I think the online has grown on me. Like its still a annoyance but a VERY small one, also its this or my laptop that really should be wiped that takes 15 minutes to load
The fact that this game is only fifteen dollars and has wifi run on sticks of broccoli makes me think they're treating it sort of like a cash grab, which SUCKS, especially for a mainline nintendo game with one of nintendo's biggest franchises.
Because other games like Fall Guys have their own server. One of them leads that's their deal and it won't effect you just that one person.
Not a SINGLE review talked about the online of this being terrible. Not a single mention. You literally saved me fifteen dollars.
Ikr, I wish I didn't buy this game.
I've only had two matches that were really laggy, hoping they iron it out in the next few days.
And people wanted this game to have 60 players at once like Fall Guys, yeah right...
Well ig I’m just part of the lucky group, I played wit my friends online in PA and had zero issues aside from the Chocolate cake stage always having frame rate issues (and it doesn’t have any offline for whatever reason) I have had a laggy game or two, but not nearly enough to regret my purchase and I’ve put in a good amount of hours. For $15 I wasn’t expecting anything crazy either, it’s a good time tho.
Is this an excuse for Nintendo to keep having poor online? Nah. But honestly, this game for $15 has better online than other titles and HAL isn’t even doin a lot of online titles or anything, they just make primarily Kirby.
Yes I am a Kirby fan
The online thing to me isnt a reoccurring issue
Idk that might just be your internet or something because the game runs well on my switch
You know they probably just test the online in the office on the same wifi network and it runs great and they think it works
I actually really want to play this game, but even though I'm not much of an online player, they do really need to fix that problem. Except for the first couple of Kirby Switch games, Kirby has not disappointed me on Switch so far.
Strange, I've seen UA-camrs talk about how GOOD the online is, then again, I've never run into any lag at ALL on Nintendo games. And no, I don't have god internet, it's decent, but that's it.
I had no much problems online to be honest
7:15 Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection for Wii?
Its really only me who hasn’t experienced much lag?
Hopefully since it’s HAL and not just Nintendo the issues will be fixed
I’ll be honest my guy, the online problems are almost definitely you and not the game. My connectivity has always been great, was only bad when my wifi sucked
best way to play is locally with parsec
5:55 that's actually a mechanic in the game not input lag. Attacks have a bit of wind up time.
for me I've had a fine online with no lags at all but I might just be lucky
Dude it’s soooooo bad. The fatigue is real. It hurts more because it’s so good outside of that. They deserve some heat.
WE NEED LOCAL 4 PLAYER
That intro
So basically is this game worth $15 for local multiplayer only? Never buy a Nintendo game based off of the online capabilities
5:14
This looks like shader compilation, but this isn't being emulated 0_0
Mmh... I get what you're saying about the online (the game itself is awesome!). Me personally, I have great online experience with all Nintendo games. Yes I do get some lag and disconnects sometimes, but I have little complaints. Keep in mind, I have optic fibre internet in Switzerland, so the quality is very high. But I agree, for the bigger picture, Nintendo should really invest more in improving the online.
Here in the states Internet ranges person to person state to state but it usually comes down Nintendo servers as other companies work around that
I used to play 8 player Gears of War horde mode on Xbox 360 but then I play a quick round of Smash and hope it lags enough to be playable
@@JustJulyo Yeah, I see.
Well anyway, I'm sure that Nintendo catches up in a not-so-distant future. Because when they finally do things right, they usually nail it. Wait and see.
I hope they add more modes and stuff but probably won't happen
Lol the fact he's calling this strategy
Hey, at least the thumbnail is honest
I mean, I get where your coming from but-
I pay triple just to use my internet running and i get 5 MBPS. Not even enough to play most online games. In my point of view, the ISPs are the biggest issue here.
But Nintendo still does need dedicated servers though.
OH MY GOD IM IN THIS VID.
Lucky!
I can only hope that Splatoon 3 doesn’t flop because of Nintendo’s negligence.
What are you going to complain about next. That there’s only 20 slices in a loaf of bread?
this is the worst kirby game. its literally a free to play game bro nintendo is losing their style.
Well I guess someone doesn’t like Kirby though
Forgot this game existed ngl
Bruh Kirby’s Dream Buffet was only out for 3 days or something! So how did you forget that the game existed lol?
@@dominicvega1678 as in the video reminded me it existed. It was announced a while ago
I feel like the experience varies as I have had little problems here (tho I still think the online is ass with the console)
Nintendo probably doesn’t care because Japan has amazing wifi so they think Nintendo online is probably fine
Every Kirby spin off game on the Switch up to this point has had atrocious online so I’m really not surprised. Super Kirby Clash and Kirby Fighters 2 were both unplayable online for me. It really ruins the experience and run time of these games when I’m locked to single player content.
The fact that this cost money.....people will buy anything branded with Nintendo’s first party IP’s.🤣🤣🤣😂
okay nintendo you crossed the line! I ended up defending Biomutant and said it was a nostalgic hit to kirby's dreamland cause both characters happen to wield a samurai blade. so why go and do this sure i asked you to have Biomutant taken down but reguardless I purchased 2 copies day 1. then after a day or two biomutant got a huge amount of hate from others posting on youtube. so not only was i appreciative THQNortic had been inspired by your pink light super strong round fellow but others deserved more backlash than myself for ripping and rumoring about biomutants bad narrative and questionable origionality. and nope they never apologized i'm guessing sadly that game now is under-rated. really anyone reading i hope you found this gem (bioumtant) and hear it from me first that squirly hero can float pretty close to how kirby floats. it's just inspired non-the-less!
Why is everyone saying the online is bad, every time the game lags it’s because I’m far from the internet, am I just lucky or do I have great internet or something ?
This game is going to cause a lot of sexual awakenings
I just wish you didn’t lose so many strawberries during the battle royal. Maybe instead of 30 make it 20
This is why I don’t buy Nintendo games straight out.
Kirby's Dream Buffet online is a new low for Nintendo imo. I don't experience this much lag when playing Mario Kart 8 Deluxe or Splatoon 2.
A lot of you are gonna hate me for this but I realllllyyyyyy feel like this game should've been free to play with a battle pass
No thanks, but I could see why this idea is pretty popular.
@@yeetus_reetus_deeleetus I don't like the idea either but if we're being honest the game would see a lot more successful if this was the case
Yeah fall guys is free too
I am STUNNED they didn't charge more for this game. Definitely like a $30 or more level Nintendo game
I'm surprised too. I was starting to think Nintendo had a policy where any of their main exclusives aren't allowed to go lower than 40$ not counting if its on sale.
Nintendo really aren't good at maintaining servers
Kirby, more like Slowby
The majority of the game i play online are smooth and only a few has a bit of lag. The problem comes from the lack of servers, it's peer 2 peer so if one guys has a shitty connexion well gues what? everybody suffers. Fall guys has epic game servers that's why it's smoother. I don't blame nintendo for not having servers for such a small game.
Yeah, Nintendo's online has always been garbage on many of their own games. They always seem to be behind the curve on a lot of technical fronts. They need to get away from P2P and go with dedicated servers for their popular online games. If you join a game with someone who has a McDonald's WiFi connection, you can guarantee you're in for a lagfest!
After playing SMM2 I can play any online perfectly fine. Lol
rip headphone users 0:07
rip splatoon 3...?
they know. they don't care. don't even know why folks rant anymore about it.
I love myself a good Chiguy rant this Nintendo Online crap is ridiculous I feel like we got better online when we didn’t pay so why is it so bad now?
Damn most of these comments are complaining about online
Basically Fall Guys but actually fun
Food guys
"Surprised"? Lmao, no
It's a great game I had somewhat of problems online but still I had a lot of fun! Also my life is a lie when chiguy said he plays fall guys instead of among us I thought that was funny.
I have no interest in this game, whatever it is online or content. Kirby isn't the badass character with cute flair we know anymore. I wonder if the anime was the cause of his portrayal.
Kirby being the selling point from his cuteness is pointless.
nintendo switch online is terrible always has been never works starts to freeze when frame by frame just stops playstations networks works pretty well wipes switch online out of the blue
You heard, Nintendo Online is $4 a month, and the quality shows.
Oh snap! I was on the fence because of this issue, still there.
But Chi-Guy it's only $15
You should be thankful that you can give Nintendo so little money for a 1st party game that you will do again and gladly pay for it
Isn't Nintendo the bestest parent? Love them or else you won't get quality games in the future
Why is this game not free if it was free it would’ve got a bigger play base similar to fall guys.
Probably because they didn't plan on making the game a live service like Fall Guys, and if they still made it free in that case it would have been the same game but with slow grind based progression, I think for that paying $15 instead is fine.
super chonk kirby shoulda been the name of the game haaha
Took it too seriously. It’s just a filler game you pull out when you visit friends with kids.
Personaly, i didnt experience any lag with the game (as for rn)
In my opinion its mostly the problem with other people having shit wifi and region difference but ye nintendo really have to fix their online experience
Its fall guys lol
Stuttering doesn't always bother me but oh my god the input lag, that ruined the game for me.
It’s Nintendo. What did you expect? Honestly, at this point, I think you’d be happier with the NSO Expansion Pack. The emulation has been greatly improved and they just released Wave Race 64. Well worth $50 IMO (Just steer clear of the online lol).