Yes. This i want to hear. Always enjoy your content. Thank you for not discussing Blood Incantation or Opeth....every metal channel is so sucking cock on those bands. I would love for you to do a What I hate about war metal as you turned me on to a lot of war metal
Thrash is fun and is definitely the common ground for metalheads. Fans of different types of metal can usually agree on thrash. That said, it's also the most limiting style of metal there is. Death and black metal, despite being more extreme, have more variety and creativity.
Please let me hear another shitty clone of Kreator’s Pleasure to Kill. Or maybe another shitty clone of Anthrax. That couldn’t make me happier. Unless it’s a shitty clone of ExoMegaTallica. Most modern thrash just seems like a parody of the good stuff
Cool Vid Man. 🤘 some cool thrash bands I can recommend for You's that you may not know. Vindicator, Wartooth, Aggression, and Evil Corpse. They are fairly original but also true. 🤘
I skipped over a lot of good thrash when I was first getting into metal, besides the obvious big ones. I kinda went right from that into death, black and grind. So now as I get older, I’m enjoying going back to all the good shit I missed out on. Loving bands like Whiplash, Morsüre, Schizo, Necrodeath, Sacrilege BC and Aggression. I never got into the “revival” bands that got popular in the mid 2000’s, so I definitely couldn’t recommend you any more good modern bands lol. Another great video Drewcifer! 😎🍻🤘
If I find myself digging anything new (90s - now) thrash-wise, there's a 90% chance it's black thrash. An indicator something MAY be interesting is if they have the word "witch", "lucifer", "hammer", or "master" in the band name. I recently made a playlist featuring the following bands (obviously not all apply to this video) but it shows the direction my brain was going when I made it: Deus Mortem, Power From Hell, Diabolic Night, Grave Altar, Cloak, Lucifer's Hammer, Cruel Force, Nocturnal Witch, Vicious Blade, Witchery, Wraith, Hellripper, Malum, Abominator, Witches Hammer, Mortuary Drape, Witchnight, Nocturnal Witch, Witchmaster, Thy Serpent, Master's Hammer Bouncy, fun, party shit is fun and all, but if it sounds disingenuous and is being made by 20 year olds in Supra skytops and tight Canadian tuxedos and fingerless motorcycle gloves I'm likely walkin'. Cheers 🍻
I think when I consider why or what makes modern Thrash at a slight disadvantage or lesser when compared to the creation of it actually has very little to do with new thrash bands and the people who make them up. First for me, I got really into punk around 2000 and some of the real or truer punk rock bands were from the UK, around 1982, affectionately known as Uk 82. Around 2000 there was movement of newer bands that were emulating this style and they were called street or chaos punks. Why I feel this movement and bands is worth mentioning is because one of the crucial and important factors in thrash’s development and origin is this same style of punk rock. To summarize, feel like the original intentions and actions of the original thrash movement as to mixing Maiden and GBH, can’t happen today or it can but it requires a very open mind and willingness to accept the similarities and divisions of punk and metal. In conclusion, if Punk is Dead(if you feel that’s true) well then Thrash Metal is too.
Interesting topic. I have to admit when the new wave came I welcomed it with open arms. I remember going to shows for years with openers like Lacuna Coil (not knocking them, just not my thing) or something being the openers. Then out of the blue in the early 2010s I go to shows and Havok or Evile is the opener and it made the show 10x better for it. But I do have to admit I don't think I bothered checking the discography of another modern Thrash band after that with the exception of High Command just because they made me laugh being kind of ridiculous, so that made me give them a chance, but even that was short lived. Not bad, just nothing stuck with me, if that makes sense. Honestly, and I know I'm likely in the minority, here's what I'd like to see. Take a band like 90s era Iced Earth with songs like Stormrider, Violate, Wolf, or even the song Iced Earth. Those songs were more or less 60 percent Power Metal to 40 percent Thrash. I'd like to see a band that flips it the other way. 60 to even 70 percent Thrash to 40/30 Power Metal but don't half ass either part. Be creative with each in how you make it work. Go from Sepultura style vocals to a lower end-mid range but still melodic Matt Barlow vocal style. Maybe occasionally if the song calls for it bust out some glass shattering high notes, but only we necessary. Not that exactly imitating Max/Matt, but you get the idea. Sort of like a Thrash/Power Metal version of a band like Iotuun in how the feel and vocals switch back and forth, but being original with it too. Again, probably in the minority, but that would get my attention real fast.
@Drewcifer I was a Hardcore Hellhammer ,Bathory and Possessed fan when I was playing Thrash but started getting into more Death and Black Metal in the late 80s and Co founder of a Death Metal Band in 1991
PHANTOM is a Killer new thrash band and OBJECTOR but shit has gotten outta control! ELECTROCUTIONER is good modern thrash but it’s done the old good way. There is some basic beeeeotch thrash out there for sure man! 😂🤣🍻🍻💪🏼💪🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
You are correct in your assessment of modern thrash metal. I'm 50 and I agree with you. New Nasty Savage album in incredible, strong comeback.!.As far as newer thrash bands that I enjoy I think Enforced, Forseen and High Command are good l
I still like regular Thrash but I lean more towards Black Thrash and Death Thrash, I am thinking about seeing if I can find some good metal releases while I'm visiting Ohio
For me the only thrash band that came after the early 90's that was any good and managed to write really memorable songs was Power Trip. The genre stopped being relevant during the 90's, and not only has it remained stagnant since then, but as the years have passed it has become more and more lifeless and stereotypical. Same with speed metal, which to me is a less aggressive version of thrash. At least death and black metal continued to evolve to this day, and there are still some bands in those subgenres that push the envelope.
The corners of the map of straight up Thrash were fully explored/exploited by 89.Thrash variants like Death Thrash and Blackened Thrash are the sounds i will still spin of the modern variety and find exciting.A lot of modern Thrash bands are starting block endeavors for young muso's to learn their chops before progressing onto other genres/styles,i just wish they could ditch the retro cookie cutter album covers.
Check out VIRUS 'pray for war' (1987) literally sounds like oozing mutant punks playing unhinged punk/thrash for the first time ever and hitting the record button; filthy sewage "production" as an added bonus,
Personally i LOVE all the new blackened thrash and death thrash bands we're seeing. But my problem with a lot of these newer metal bands, and modern thrash seems to have it the worst, is that the production is way too clean and lifeless.
Never been a big fan of thrash probably because of the over saturation of shitty bands like you said in the video….and another comment below points out the limitations of thrash which I also agree with.
Yeah I agree to be honest , to me only a handful of the old school bands that have been there since the start still do the genre justice , but I really don't care for any thrash revival bands .., all paint by numbers , lacking any originality , and yes replicate is good word.., and the thing that irks me the most is that riffs are all tired , borrowed , predictable ..,
where you lost me is the image thing , at 53 I am still wearing my leather and denim , long hair .., was like that as a snot nose kid at 17 , and I am keeping the faith brother ..,
@@Matias-music-71 I have no issues with the look, especially if the guys have been into it for ages. My thing is 20 year olds in thrash bands with that image seem more like cosplayers to me.
99% of modern thrash bands is just taking old school thrash and then giving it the production quality of hair metal which is the exact opposite of what the 80s and 90s thrash bands were going against.
yeah i wasnt a fan of the 2010s era of the copycat bay area sound where they all had those annoying shitty vocals alll the staple labels were releasing that along with the shitty deathcore bands dont miss those days,with the late 80s goofball suicidal tendancies and pizza thrash anthrax image,thrash is my least outa of the extreme genre,and hell yeah shredlive looking forward to it!!!\m/
Big disagree on Toxik and Forbidden being boring Thrash. Out of all the Bay Area Thrash Metal bands Forbidden was one of the least generic in the sense that they had a lot more melody in their riffing, Falsetto vocals, and stronger NWOBHM influences. Their debut is one of my favorite Thrash Metal albums and their second album is also really good as well. Toxik is the same way although much more technical and progressive sounding. I do agree with you on the modern Thrash scene though. It is really over saturated the same way a lot of the Black/Speed Metal stuff is over saturated. These bands try so hard to replicate the 80’s vibe that it becomes very contrived and mundane and it becomes impossible to take them seriously as they do not even attempt to try and do anything that is remotely interesting or original in their music.
Pizza and retro Thrash is garbage I can’t stand bands like evile, skeletonwitch, bonded by blood, havok, revocation all these lame bands and as you know we got lot of these bands in Houston bunch of NPCs lot of times ripping off some Bay Area Thrash, Crossover stuff etc. Now I’ll always love Onslaught, Exodus, Testament, Hirax, Artillery, Mortal Sin, Sacred Reich, Anthrax, Vio-Lence, Evildead, Toxik, Overkill etc and one of my favorite of all time among top 4 Atrophy(whom are kinda Techy) these are some just straight just Thrash bands I really love the foundational bands of this genre handful of whom do get ripped off by modern bands. I tend to gravitate to Death Thrash, Tech Thrash, Speed Thrash or Black Thrash bands you can’t go wrong with them.
Nothing wrong with thrash metal. A lot of extreme metal bands use thrash metal riffs well the hybrid ones do such as Impiety,Abhorer,Solstice,Cancer,Aggressor,and more. But agreed today's thrash metal scene is cringy af and recycling bullshit. It's already been set in stone.
thrash/death is the perfect combo. ie sadus, demolition hammer, sepultura, sodom etc. 88-92 the golden era
Morbid Saint & Dark Angel
Yes. This i want to hear. Always enjoy your content. Thank you for not discussing Blood Incantation or Opeth....every metal channel is so sucking cock on those bands. I would love for you to do a What I hate about war metal as you turned me on to a lot of war metal
Thrash is fun and is definitely the common ground for metalheads. Fans of different types of metal can usually agree on thrash. That said, it's also the most limiting style of metal there is. Death and black metal, despite being more extreme, have more variety and creativity.
@@Poser_Metal_Records Totally agree
I agree, I've lost track of all these thrash revival bands. I like the black/ death thrash style best.
@@macabre19 Same here. Blend some other shit in there.
Sup Drew? Please do a video on Proto Metal (Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, ACDC, Kiss, Scorpions, Aerosmith, etc)
As A Member of the first wave of Thrash in New York I Agree with you 💯 🤘🤘🤘
Please let me hear another shitty clone of Kreator’s Pleasure to Kill. Or maybe another shitty clone of Anthrax. That couldn’t make me happier. Unless it’s a shitty clone of ExoMegaTallica. Most modern thrash just seems like a parody of the good stuff
Cool Vid Man. 🤘 some cool thrash bands I can recommend for You's that you may not know. Vindicator, Wartooth, Aggression, and Evil Corpse. They are fairly original but also true. 🤘
Been killing it with the videos lately. Keep up the awesome work man
@@weirdpath5481 Thanks man. Cheers 🤘
I skipped over a lot of good thrash when I was first getting into metal, besides the obvious big ones. I kinda went right from that into death, black and grind. So now as I get older, I’m enjoying going back to all the good shit I missed out on. Loving bands like Whiplash, Morsüre, Schizo, Necrodeath, Sacrilege BC and Aggression.
I never got into the “revival” bands that got popular in the mid 2000’s, so I definitely couldn’t recommend you any more good modern bands lol. Another great video Drewcifer! 😎🍻🤘
If I find myself digging anything new (90s - now) thrash-wise, there's a 90% chance it's black thrash. An indicator something MAY be interesting is if they have the word "witch", "lucifer", "hammer", or "master" in the band name.
I recently made a playlist featuring the following bands (obviously not all apply to this video) but it shows the direction my brain was going when I made it: Deus Mortem, Power From Hell, Diabolic Night, Grave Altar, Cloak, Lucifer's Hammer, Cruel Force, Nocturnal Witch, Vicious Blade, Witchery, Wraith, Hellripper, Malum, Abominator, Witches Hammer, Mortuary Drape, Witchnight, Nocturnal Witch, Witchmaster, Thy Serpent, Master's Hammer
Bouncy, fun, party shit is fun and all, but if it sounds disingenuous and is being made by 20 year olds in Supra skytops and tight Canadian tuxedos and fingerless motorcycle gloves I'm likely walkin'. Cheers 🍻
5th wave thrash is where it’s at man🤣😂🤣😂
INFURIATOR does thrash/speed the right way
@@SHREDBEARD696 Thanks, I appreciate that.
I think when I consider why or what makes modern Thrash at a slight disadvantage or lesser when compared to the creation of it actually has very little to do with new thrash bands and the people who make them up. First for me, I got really into punk around 2000 and some of the real or truer punk rock bands were from the UK, around 1982, affectionately known as Uk 82. Around 2000 there was movement of newer bands that were emulating this style and they were called street or chaos punks. Why I feel this movement and bands is worth mentioning is because one of the crucial and important factors in thrash’s development and origin is this same style of punk rock. To summarize, feel like the original intentions and actions of the original thrash movement as to mixing Maiden and GBH, can’t happen today or it can but it requires a very open mind and willingness to accept the similarities and divisions of punk and metal. In conclusion, if Punk is Dead(if you feel that’s true) well then Thrash Metal is too.
Interesting topic. I have to admit when the new wave came I welcomed it with open arms. I remember going to shows for years with openers like Lacuna Coil (not knocking them, just not my thing) or something being the openers. Then out of the blue in the early 2010s I go to shows and Havok or Evile is the opener and it made the show 10x better for it. But I do have to admit I don't think I bothered checking the discography of another modern Thrash band after that with the exception of High Command just because they made me laugh being kind of ridiculous, so that made me give them a chance, but even that was short lived. Not bad, just nothing stuck with me, if that makes sense.
Honestly, and I know I'm likely in the minority, here's what I'd like to see. Take a band like 90s era Iced Earth with songs like Stormrider, Violate, Wolf, or even the song Iced Earth. Those songs were more or less 60 percent Power Metal to 40 percent Thrash. I'd like to see a band that flips it the other way. 60 to even 70 percent Thrash to 40/30 Power Metal but don't half ass either part. Be creative with each in how you make it work. Go from Sepultura style vocals to a lower end-mid range but still melodic Matt Barlow vocal style. Maybe occasionally if the song calls for it bust out some glass shattering high notes, but only we necessary. Not that exactly imitating Max/Matt, but you get the idea. Sort of like a Thrash/Power Metal version of a band like Iotuun in how the feel and vocals switch back and forth, but being original with it too. Again, probably in the minority, but that would get my attention real fast.
I agree 666% I’m a huge Thrash fan but I get it same can be said bout Brutal Death Metal. For sure but I am a huge Brutal Death fan too.
Also I was finished with Thrash Before the 90s came along! 😂🤘
@@mikebogush6803 I get the vibe that if you were into thrash early on you were done with it by the end of the 80s lol
@Drewcifer I was a Hardcore Hellhammer ,Bathory and Possessed fan when I was playing Thrash but started getting into more Death and Black Metal in the late 80s and Co founder of a Death Metal Band in 1991
Are you a fan of Korrozia Metalla? It's old school Russian thrash. Thrash with some sack.
fully agree with you on it!! alot of the "new thrash" sounds the same and is very watered!
I am pretty much on the same page as you. Keep it up dude!
@@Nocturnus-666 Cheers man 🍺
@@Drewcifer 🍺
PHANTOM is a Killer new thrash band and OBJECTOR but shit has gotten outta control! ELECTROCUTIONER is good modern thrash but it’s done the old good way. There is some basic beeeeotch thrash out there for sure man! 😂🤣🍻🍻💪🏼💪🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
You are correct in your assessment of modern thrash metal. I'm 50 and I agree with you. New Nasty Savage album in incredible, strong comeback.!.As far as newer thrash bands that I enjoy I think Enforced, Forseen and High Command are good l
I still like regular Thrash but I lean more towards Black Thrash and Death Thrash, I am thinking about seeing if I can find some good metal releases while I'm visiting Ohio
For me the only thrash band that came after the early 90's that was any good and managed to write really memorable songs was Power Trip. The genre stopped being relevant during the 90's, and not only has it remained stagnant since then, but as the years have passed it has become more and more lifeless and stereotypical. Same with speed metal, which to me is a less aggressive version of thrash. At least death and black metal continued to evolve to this day, and there are still some bands in those subgenres that push the envelope.
Powertrip has been the main band for me when I first heard Nightmare Logic they ticked all the boxes on that release.
The corners of the map of straight up Thrash were fully explored/exploited by 89.Thrash variants like Death Thrash and Blackened Thrash are the sounds i will still spin of the modern variety and find exciting.A lot of modern Thrash bands are starting block endeavors for young muso's to learn their chops before progressing onto other genres/styles,i just wish they could ditch the retro cookie cutter album covers.
Bands that never made it big like Prong, Sacrifice, Artillery are all interesting to this day.
@@IgorSinitar Not a big Prong fan (they're ok) but Sacrifice and Artillery kick ass for sure.
If you're going to be a clone Thrash band, please clone Coroner.
@@SuperSpacebum lol nice
Hmmm, I'm tempted to add Heathen and later Dark Angel to that "list" as well.
Now that’s a band you never hear people trying to replicate. Huge influence for my old band.
I think the band that came the closest was Illogicist from Italy on their first album. I can't think of anyone else.
I don't think you can clone coroner. They got a whole ass vibe that's hard to replicate. Also, they're more than just a thrash band.
Good video 👍
@@SuicidalGrind The Grind approves 🤘
Just saw exodus never seen so many stage dives in one show they are still sick
Definitely lost track after the first "revival" personally besides bands like Witchtrap and Toxic Holocaust that's about it
@@cardiacarrest7807 Yeah there are exceptions for sure. Witchtrap, TH, and Evil Army come to mind.
Check out VIRUS 'pray for war' (1987) literally sounds like oozing mutant punks playing unhinged punk/thrash for the first time ever and hitting the record button; filthy sewage "production" as an added bonus,
Personally i LOVE all the new blackened thrash and death thrash bands we're seeing. But my problem with a lot of these newer metal bands, and modern thrash seems to have it the worst, is that the production is way too clean and lifeless.
Never been a big fan of thrash probably because of the over saturation of shitty bands like you said in the video….and another comment below points out the limitations of thrash which I also agree with.
Yeah I agree to be honest , to me only a handful of the old school bands that have been there since the start still do the genre justice , but I really don't care for any thrash revival bands .., all paint by numbers , lacking any originality , and yes replicate is good word.., and the thing that irks me the most is that riffs are all tired , borrowed , predictable ..,
where you lost me is the image thing , at 53 I am still wearing my leather and denim , long hair .., was like that as a snot nose kid at 17 , and I am keeping the faith brother ..,
@@Matias-music-71 I have no issues with the look, especially if the guys have been into it for ages. My thing is 20 year olds in thrash bands with that image seem more like cosplayers to me.
99% of modern thrash bands is just taking old school thrash and then giving it the production quality of hair metal which is the exact opposite of what the 80s and 90s thrash bands were going against.
more like production quality of metalcore or melodeath
@@soulbrother5435 Yeah thats more accurate. Lost Society even became a metalcore band
@@theoothrashernew lost society sucks ass big time
@ I wasn’t a huge fan before they became core but now it’s complete shit
Check out some Korrosive, Vexan, and Ninth Realm. Some heavy ass drathrash
yeah i wasnt a fan of the 2010s era of the copycat bay area sound where they all had those annoying shitty vocals alll the staple labels were releasing that along with the shitty deathcore bands dont miss those days,with the late 80s goofball suicidal tendancies and pizza thrash anthrax image,thrash is my least outa of the extreme genre,and hell yeah shredlive looking forward to it!!!\m/
Thrash is my favorite metal but what i dont like is that is way too repetitive unless your vektor
Big disagree on Toxik and Forbidden being boring Thrash. Out of all the Bay Area Thrash Metal bands Forbidden was one of the least generic in the sense that they had a lot more melody in their riffing, Falsetto vocals, and stronger NWOBHM influences. Their debut is one of my favorite Thrash Metal albums and their second album is also really good as well. Toxik is the same way although much more technical and progressive sounding. I do agree with you on the modern Thrash scene though. It is really over saturated the same way a lot of the Black/Speed Metal stuff is over saturated. These bands try so hard to replicate the 80’s vibe that it becomes very contrived and mundane and it becomes impossible to take them seriously as they do not even attempt to try and do anything that is remotely interesting or original in their music.
Pizza and retro Thrash is garbage I can’t stand bands like evile, skeletonwitch, bonded by blood, havok, revocation all these lame bands and as you know we got lot of these bands in Houston bunch of NPCs lot of times ripping off some Bay Area Thrash, Crossover stuff etc. Now I’ll always love Onslaught, Exodus, Testament, Hirax, Artillery, Mortal Sin, Sacred Reich, Anthrax, Vio-Lence, Evildead, Toxik, Overkill etc and one of my favorite of all time among top 4 Atrophy(whom are kinda Techy) these are some just straight just Thrash bands I really love the foundational bands of this genre handful of whom do get ripped off by modern bands. I tend to gravitate to Death Thrash, Tech Thrash, Speed Thrash or Black Thrash bands you can’t go wrong with them.
I dislike modern thrash metal that very formularic
I don’t like modern metal that sounds like Pantera just exaggerated. Faster instruments, more screaming, yet less style.
Nothing wrong with thrash metal. A lot of extreme metal bands use thrash metal riffs well the hybrid ones do such as Impiety,Abhorer,Solstice,Cancer,Aggressor,and more. But agreed today's thrash metal scene is cringy af and recycling bullshit. It's already been set in stone.