I always thought he just went SPLAT! Now we know that his body was dead long before the blue explosion. How do you feel about this? Plagueis really did know how to cheat death, just no in the way Anakin was hoping...
" *IRONIC* isn't it? He could save others from death, but not himself. He could only essence transfer!" - Ghost of Hego Damask II The book is wrong! Palpatine did NOT steal the secret of Darth Plagueis the Wise. Essence transfer is not the secret to immortality. That is a false doctrine.
@@FreeOpenTruth Darth Plagues did not use essence transfer. He tried for decades to heal midiceloria and other body cells in his own body, he could do it in other force sensitives but not his own.
@@mayhem1994 no aliens in a world full of many creatures I’d assume none of em are aliens... And I’d assume there’s lots of “racism” but I hate that idea
techno639 The prophecy says that Anakin would destroy the sith and bring balance to the force (still dark side, but no sith because the sith are always trying to bend the force to their will, which is the reason for the imbalance). By bringing back Palpatine, Anakin no longer have fullfilled the prophecy. The completely ruined his character arc.
@@Philwastaken00 Anakin told Rey to bring balance to the Force like he did. Pretty sure Disney didn't change anything regarding that. You just failed to pay attention. Nothing in the prophecy said the Chosen One was supposed to bring permanent balance, but it didn't stop people from making those assumptions.
Yeah so I'm still confused about snoke was he his own entity or was he literally possessed by palpatine or was he just like a lifeless meat puppet that palpatine was controlling all the way from exogul? Either way his death was meaningless
My headcanon: Luke after Episode 6 final scene smoke A LOT of Ewok ganja and he have a strange nightmare and when he saw the "Rey Skywalker" thing he wakes up screaming and then Leia says "hey Luke you okay?? next time dont smoke that shit" then Luke says "THANK GOD IT WAS A DREAM"
To summarise: The Palpatine in TROS is a clone. After Palpatine died and *YEETED* his soul across the universe,the sith spent years trying to make a clone of Palpatine that could contain The Force. A successful younger clone of Palpatine was made but could not use The Force. That clone went on to marry Rey’s mother and then they had Rey. The clone refused to let Rey be killed so he and his wife were killed instead. There was a clone that could use The Force , but it was severely deformed. That clone went on to become Snoke. Palpatine controlled Snoke to influence Ben to turn to the dark side and become a sith. Palpatine is Snoke, Rey’s Father, and Rey’s Grandfather. But technically none of those because he’s a clone? *Tada*
They didn't alter anything. They just straight up stole and rewrote. ZERO Originality. I'll be sticking with Star Wars Legends as my primary religious material.
This kind of reminds me of robot chicken: the emperor falling down the reactor shaft, frame freeze and music starts then he starts to tell the story😂😂😂
@@4pfBulmond No one has any business in the star wars youtube fandom criticizing any content creator BEFORE you talk about MIKE ZEROH - the dude WOULD NOT SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STILL DOES NOT about CLICK BAIT SHIT! ALMOST 10 VIDEOS A DAY from that asshole. I had to block him. Glad to see his subs have completely stalled.
exactly, because he also foresaw this second betrayal long before Rey was born and now Rey's great great granddaughter is going to be force sensitive and "finish" the sith for good in Disney's Star wars: Episode 10-A new new beginning
@@Lustie its not possible cause Snoke knew that Rey and Kylo were connected and Sidious didnt, It might be some kind of clone but not possesed by Sidious
@@bleyd__ he doesn't have any kind of personality, he is controlled by Palpatine because Snoke does know that they're connected somehow but he doesn't know they're a dyad. Plus, Palpatine is the one who's so strong in the force he can connect Rey and kylo together, it couldn't have been a mere clone
In ROTS Plagueis is mentioned as a legend heavily implied he actually existed but certainly not as recent as to be Palps master. So I’m glad they kept that
Nick Dibble-Kahn Palpatine was telling Anakin that it was a Legand to intricate him to join the Sith, Palpatine already knew what he needed from Plagueis, so he killed him as mentioned in ROTS and the Plagueis Novel.
@@Zevoxian Palpatine was pretty obviously joking and badmouthing Plagueis because he knew him. I doubt he would know so much about this random Sith and then be sassy about him without being his apprentice.
Love how clonimg is imperfect, but there was literaly a war like 70+ years before this called the clone wars where cloning was the whole base of the war
Maybe cloning was the secret to immortality, and the reason why palpstine created the seperatists was so that he could support the cloning efforts and claim it for itself since he allowed Camino into the galactic republic. After claiming it, he shut the facility down, moved all the tech and research he could get to Exogul and begin his cloning process. Problem is, the camino people wouldnt follow him and the empire had them executed as palpatine thought he had the knowledge to clone himself but where he didnt thats why it kept fucking up.
Disney: the extened universe is now none canon!!!! We wanna do our own thing!!!! Also disney: quick steal all the ideas from the extended universe and give those writers no credit!!!!
The reason it was made legends was not to de-canonize the material. Instead, it was done so they could use characters from legends without being forced to stick to already established story lines. It's actually a brilliant move and has worked successfully.
@@brianborstein8456 oh yeah, the sequel trillogy has been super successful. Thats why we have a movie thats a new hope 2.0, a movie that breaks most of star wars, and another movie that spends 90% of its run time trying to fix everything the second broke. Heres hoping the new CEO will actually be able to fix everything. And to be fair de-canonizing is exactly what they did. Just because they cherry pick ideas and arguablely make them worse doesnt change that.
@@pablofski3239 Disney had nothing to do with what was, is or would not be considered canon. This is a sad misconception that has propagated itself through social media and fan speculation. The decision on what was to be canon, originated from George Lucas, and if you did a bit of research you could come across multiple interviews with him giving his thoughts on the EU, as early as the late 1980's. The only thing Disney did was reaffirm the role of the Star Wars Story Group in their effort to maintain continuity of the franchise.
@@generalgrevious815 , never said they didn't de-canonize legends. Matter of fact, it's exactly what I stated. Success is not gauged by a few butthurt fanboys.
Towards the end of Return of the Jedi, Palpatine did defend himself against Vader. He wasn't just spazing out in a rage. He was using force lightning and overloading Vader's life support circuits. Palpatine was paralyzed because Vader's cybernetic hand crushed his spine. Novelization of ROJ.
Could be that even they would be repulsed by that; maybe they did have some scruples? Or Palpatine just assumed they would rat him out? Because it would’ve unfolded everything Palpatine has done! Just one word from the Kaminos would have toppled his entire agenda and he would’ve been executed or in prison.
Millyonz 258 The sequel trilogy was not planned and what J.J. had in mind was thrown out by Rain. The last movie was 8 and 9 put together last minute. Rain’s 8 practically didn’t happen.
they didnt say that, they sayed his particular hatred or motif against the ones he fought was fueled by what they did to him in what relates to his body and face... nothing SPECIFICAL about Luke, still dumb... and in TFA novelization Snoke sayes that he saw the empire RISE AND FALL explain that fucking lucasfilm
@@locoarticwolf2181 I had to think about that for a second.But your pretty much right..Ep9 did mostly white wash over the Last Jedi.You can scrap Ep8 and still Ep9 would play out the same.Except for Luke dying..Which is a shame
Plaguess should have been the one hiding out on exogol after his apprentice attempted to assassinate him. Fakes his death and returns after jumping body to body!
completely agree with this i wrote something about this is one of his former videos and i got like 300 likes it was a way better option they could have gave him the same voice as snoke and could have said that snoke was a vessel for him and then if u really wanted to keep the ending the same after plagues is defeated he transfers his essence into rey and kylo makes an incredibly hard decision encouraged by rey to kill her along with killing the essence of plagueis and then he can do his weird meditation shit and bring her back.
Me too he looked like a demon possessed character, almost creepy with those yellow piercing eyes and evil look on his face. I thought it was the best moment in the entire sequel trilogy.
From what I've seen in Star Wars canon, cloning regular beings like soldiers (clone troopers/Jango/Boba Fett) was easy to do, but cloning FORCE USERS (Luuke Skywalker, Starkiller clones) was an imperfect art and had lots more challenges. I always assumed the Imperials wanted Grogu to try and fine-tune their creation of a new body for Palpatine.
The sad reality is that this whole story about Palpatine is just an attempt at retconning the disaster of The Last Jedi. While I personally didn't mind TLJ, I think that it completely destroyed the chance of making Snoke a Viable villian. With all the information about Snoke being an ancient species, and the images from the first two movies depicting a create like Snoke, showing that he had his story changed at the last minute.
That was planned out, actually The Palpatine lineage in Rey is way more obvious now, the First Order being secretly controlled by Palpatine is HELLA obvious now, and, honestly, we should have seen it coming anyway Did you really believe one the greatest Sith ever, one who knew how to manipulate life and death, dies from being thrown down a nuclear fuckin well? It was the rushed job of implementing him and his connection to Rey in TRoS, like most of that movie’s actual problems, that were due to TLJ, those specifically were due to JJ not being straightforward about his plans with RJ before he took over, and JJ wanting to use his own ideas anyway Hell, Rey’s Palpatine lineage isn’t even a true retcon, it was Kylo talking shit to manipulate a Rey into joining his cause, he never established it as fact, nothing really did, and Kylo never established himself as trustworthy enough to just take it as such, at face value, with zero evidence Him coming clean later is a guilty conscience coming clean in an effort to earn redemption, not a hastily planned retcon
- My question is what was Rian Johnson's idea of the big bad in the third movie? Surely, he didn't think that Kylo was it? What were any of them thinking with they justified the death of Snoke?
Midi-chlorians or the Force itself cannot be cloned. So the “human” body that was cloned cannot contain the Force. So the Force strikes back at the being that tries to contain the Force in itself and literally consumes the body, deteriorating it, feeding it back to the Cosmic Force. Whoooaaa....
cgonz idk about this necessary, unless it’s canon elsewhere. I know force unleashed isn’t canon anymore but Star Wars has explored the cloning of force users before. I just think that palpatine wasn’t ready yet and had perfected the Kaminoan cloning process
Its quite possible that this is the case, but i wouldnt say its impossible to acheve an ideal clone, just something really, REALLY hard. Like he said, maybe Baby Yoda's genes(a species that is really strong in the force) would have been a key ingredient in such an achivement.
So not only is Rey Palpatine alive BUT Sheev spirit is too?? WHAT'S TO STOP HIM FROM COMING BACK AGAIN?😂? If it was a clone.. & if he was a clone in Jedi then then why wait 30yrs & start a new crew (1st Order) without knowing they were force diad ??? STUPID!!!!!‼
Fans : it’s dumb if Palps survived the Death Star fall. Star Wars: He actually chucked his essence across the galaxy to a clone body 👍 Fans: That’s dumb.
LJ no he should have stayed dead. The best thing he did since coming back was that fight with Obi-wan on Tatooine. All his other development seemed like filler. For good measure, he was chopped in half, it’s dumb if he survives that.
Hey if he transferred his consciousness into another body then that would be good enough but the fact that Vader could've only killed a clone is just ruining the prophecy
@@Aristocratic13 yes but palpatine never died. Everything just repeated. Did Anakin really do all that just to have balance for 30years? I'm not saying that evil shouldnt have come back, but to have Palpatine to never die and really just go on a hiatus kills the prophecy.
@Jacob Underwood pretty sure the prophecy was two parts. In the prequels, that Anakin would bring balance to the force leaving 2 jedi and 2 sith(but expanded canon has given us more jedis). And then for the return of Anakin in episode 6.
It seems that after Palpatine realises that Ben and Rey are the dyad, he reminisces about the time when he wanted to create a Dyad between himself and Anakin. Bloody hell, Palps...
Yea i thought I remembered them destroying them, and I dont think they could clone midiclorians thats why they cloned a bounty hunter.. Maybe this is why cloning ends up so janky its the forces way of resisiting just like how anakin was created in first place...resistance to their expermients
One line said: "Sidious (...) had been ready for years." And then a few lines later: "It was too soon." So which is it? Had he properly prepared, and been ready for years? Or did it happen before he was ready?
@@zairman So then wouldn't it be better to write... "Sidious had been preparing for years." When you're ready, you're ready. Then you don't have any more preparations to do.
It doesn’t undo everything Vader did. He ALWAYS wanted to kill Palpatine, but it was to gain power. Instead, he did it to save his son. THAT was his redemption. It’s not about the “what,” it’s about the “why.”
@@Luno207 that's a good point but that's like saying. My dad saved me from dying of a heart attack but it doesn't matter because I died of another one fifty years later.
If he can send his consciousness to other vessels, then he is effectively impossible to kill. That means even at the end of the sequels, his consciousness is still alive.
That is possible, but not the only possible conclusion. E.g. It's clearly possible that the essence transfer requires a vessel and that the 'spirit' as such would die without any remaining conduits. (The ability to transfer consciousness between conduits does not entail that the consciousness can survive independently without any conduits.)
@@proprioceptive_ultragamer I'm sure he sent it to one of his more than willing clones or acolytes. He's definitely still alive and impossible to kill.
Yes, but consciousness without a body is harmless. Basically the same thing happened in sauron, Saruman and Voldemort. After their deaths their spirits remained, but they were unable to take any sort of form anymore. Voldemort’s spirit got stuck into some impotent fetus that dumbledore said that Harry couldn’t help. So this is quite similar to that.
Because he doesn't see obvious idiotic plot Band-Aids.. in clone wars they mass produced hundreds of walking functioning troopers.. yet post clone wars Palpatine's lackeys couldn't get ONE right? Yoda's species is the most force sensitive and attuned in the Galaxy.. yet video creator thinks it's his 'life span' they were after for genetic splicing. Lol.
As Yoda said to Luke, "Cosmic beings are we, not this crude matter!" So I guess immortality through transferring your essence/consciousness makes a lot more sense than preserving your original body.
Your body isn't you, it is part of you which your consciousness controls, the body died but his consciousness is him which lived on therefore he didn't really die.
They shouldve never brought him back lol edit: ive drawn a suirrel if anyone is interested :3 (kinda cute/disgusting) could try a star wars character next
Literally had 3 movies to make a villain, and instead makes one, no background, mysterious, doesn't exactly make sense but its the new villain so okay, kill him with not much more info, and recycles one in a way that makes absolutely no sense and the hilarious part is they didn't even give one fuck to explain either one.
@cris tian. It makes perfect sense, 30 years ago a graphic novel 6 part series came out called The Dark Empire. Its literally all about sidious coming back as a clone, it tells how, why, what, when, where and who. It also explains the decay of the clones and why sidious had hundreds of clones of himself stored away.
What disney deems Canon or not is besides the question and completely opposite this topic, you state that what happened makes no sense what so ever. I'm saying that it makes perfect sense, and that Abrahms did the best he could, being a true starwars fan boy who could only do so much with a series that was under scrutiny and intense pressure by not only the public but by Disney and their need to keep an image. If you read the dark empire or were at all a star wars fan. You'd have known that Abrahms did show cloning chambers hosting decayed and destroyed clones of sidious, which was a direct reference to the dark empire and a tip of the hat to James lucenos Darth Plagueis. I'll chose fact over uneducated opinion any day. And whether disney says Canon or not, star wars Legends series will forever be Canon. I bet you don't even know why the death star was created... You probably think it's sole purpose was to destroy the rebellion..
@@echo3-125 Dude, this is mainly a movie franchise. The fact that to understand what goes on in a movie you have to go out of your way to buy a book, means the movie was a failure.
Bro just wanna say I love your channel and I appreciate having a UA-cam channel I can watch about unanswered Star Wars cannon / theory. Keep being awesome and never stop!
At least Disney haven't gone further back in the timeline and change revenge of the sith and say palpatine was a clone or somthing stupid like that because they should never ruin anakins story like they have with palpatine.
@@Boristien405 No he didn't. Palpatine never died and the sith were never destroyed. The force was just as out of balance as it was during the republic when the sith were planning galactic conquest from the shadows.
Well Vader didn't bring balance to the force but he DID still save Luke... even though he would later die fighting the same poeple... so there's that... i guess.
I always thought that the burst of energy that came up the tube vader threw palpatine down in return of the Jedi was palpatine's essence escaping his body, it always felt so evil and alive every time I watched that scene.
Disney: palpatine survived the fall. SW community: how? George Lucas: the dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Clark Strange Force ghosts is something sith cannot do. Nor can they bring people back to life,those were light side powers. It's how Palpatine tricked Anakin in to joining the dark side to save Padme, knowing damn well he couldn't do it, at least not yet.
ShadowNny hey that’s not very nice, I agree with him, Disney canon is dumb af, if kylo was the skywalker that would rise it would’ve been way better, hell if they just had a 1 minute scene of anakin I think it would be better, but Kathleen Kennedy was like oopsie my bad sorry for no Hayden Christensen, she literally fucked the end of Star Wars into oblivion, the worst plot line in the saga was the sequels
The guy has manipulated the entire freaking galaxy to be emperor of the universe. And you're upset that he saw Anakin's betrayal coming? And that he uses cloning (which was at his fingertips the whole time) and sith magic to do it??? What is wrong with you? This is Palpatine... be smarter.... This shit was INEVITABLE
In the comics he always has a plan b so it's not far fetched. The reason this feels like bs is because Palpatine/Snoke was not built up OR properly executed, so you have that rushed feeling.
WARLORD op damn lol it was a joke fellas, I’m just saying what other say as a joke, don’t take everything so serious, it’s to joke on Disney’s behalf, and you should check yourself, all you tend to do is go on attack mode cause you get offended. Work on that bud. Learn to speak instead of shit out your mouth, it’ll benefit you in life. And it’s always easy to bitch when you have a fake profile and try to be a tough guy. Makes you a coward lol. So don’t speak and tell me how things should be when even I on the spot have more character depth then snoke did in his one appearance. Glad you enjoy shit writing kid. There is a difference in having to make something on the spot and messing up the lore they had to make something up entirely to what it was supposed to become. So don’t talk, you are wasting your breath cause you clearly don’t know a thing about making films, rather hiding behind a keyboard and get offended
I’m calling it - in the Mandalorian, the Empire/Palpatine is trying to steal “long life” genes from baby yoda’s species so that Palpatine’s clone vessels live longer
Also midichlorians - my bet is that the reason the Palpatine clones were imperfect is because they could replicate the body genetics but not the midichlorian levels necessary to contain all that dark side energy
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I always thought he just went SPLAT!
Now we know that his body was dead long before the blue explosion.
How do you feel about this?
Plagueis really did know how to cheat death, just no in the way Anakin was hoping...
Bro you cant make a sense out of this mess,this is not your forte.
So your telling me as he was screaming his way down he was dead
Theory's Arcade I thought he blew up
Anakin could have transfered padme's consciousness to another, hotter body, and broke that in.
captin rex No just before he exploded he transfered his essence to another body
Everyone: "Did you die?"
Palpatine: "Sadly yes, BUT I LIVED!"
What movie is this from I wanting to think ice age for some reason
xF 4 N 4 T 1 C ice age: dawn of the dinosaurs
Hazaaa, a man of culture!
The fact I understand this reference makes me certain my childhood was a success.
Buck
“His very own apprentice had turned against him, the way he himself had turned against Plagueis”
*IRONIC*
It’s the sith way
This is the rule of two, envisioned by Darth Revan, instilled by Darth Bane. This was the future of the Sith.
" *IRONIC* isn't it? He could save others from death, but not himself. He could only essence transfer!" - Ghost of Hego Damask II
The book is wrong! Palpatine did NOT steal the secret of Darth Plagueis the Wise. Essence transfer is not the secret to immortality. That is a false doctrine.
@@FreeOpenTruth Darth Plagues did not use essence transfer. He tried for decades to heal midiceloria and other body cells in his own body, he could do it in other force sensitives but not his own.
By the way Plagues was drunk when Palpatine killed him.
"Death is a concept created by the jedi, I don't even know how to spell it"
Palpatine 2020
D
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im kidding I’m KIDDING!!
Legend says that if you spell it to palpatine he will instantly combust
Seven Lives Lost I will use the force to heal my broken body
lol
@@matthewlopez-duke6073
A long time that will take.
Sidious spending 60 years trying to learn immortality while Yoda at 900 years old having the time of his life
Yoda is an alien though and sidious is human
@@mayhem1994 nooo. Sidious is the alien. No shit he is a human
@@mayhem1994 no aliens in a world full of many creatures I’d assume none of em are aliens...
And I’d assume there’s lots of “racism” but I hate that idea
@@mayhem1994 He's human to us. But for the aliens, they could say the same thing to us.
Alien just means something like. Somethings that not normal or natural or different. A alien 👽 if they exits would “Call” us alien
Palpatine died along with the second Death Star, as Anakin fulfills the prophecy of the chosen one bringing balance to the force.
@Nathan Beck They did. He just cloned himself, Anakin still fulfilled the chosen prophecy
and anything beyond that is just a nightmare luke was having some day
Nathan Beck Screw Disney, Lucas is Canon!
techno639 The prophecy says that Anakin would destroy the sith and bring balance to the force (still dark side, but no sith because the sith are always trying to bend the force to their will, which is the reason for the imbalance). By bringing back Palpatine, Anakin no longer have fullfilled the prophecy. The completely ruined his character arc.
@@Philwastaken00 Anakin told Rey to bring balance to the Force like he did. Pretty sure Disney didn't change anything regarding that. You just failed to pay attention. Nothing in the prophecy said the Chosen One was supposed to bring permanent balance, but it didn't stop people from making those assumptions.
Last time I was this early, SWT thought snoke was palpatine
Well he wasn't wrong... From a certain point of view.. 😂
Yer Awrite BOAH aaaaahhh the Obi Wan reference
Wrong beats, bears, battle star galatica.
Yeah so I'm still confused about snoke was he his own entity or was he literally possessed by palpatine or was he just like a lifeless meat puppet that palpatine was controlling all the way from exogul? Either way his death was meaningless
What if snoke was the first clone palpatines consciousness possessed and when he got betrayed by kylo he had the zombie clone as the back up
Anakin killed him. The sequel trilogy is just a fever dream Luke had.
yes
I hope they retcon it this way.
Exactly, it didn't happen
My headcanon:
Luke after Episode 6 final scene smoke A LOT of Ewok ganja and he have a strange nightmare and when he saw the "Rey Skywalker" thing he wakes up screaming and then Leia says "hey Luke you okay?? next time dont smoke that shit" then Luke says "THANK GOD IT WAS A DREAM"
@@Spillow-C Yes, this is how it happened. Exactly. Nice work.
To summarise:
The Palpatine in TROS is a clone. After Palpatine died and *YEETED* his soul across the universe,the sith spent years trying to make a clone of Palpatine that could contain The Force. A successful younger clone of Palpatine
was made but could not use The Force. That clone went on to marry Rey’s mother and then they had Rey. The clone refused to let Rey be killed so he and his wife were killed instead. There was a clone that could use The Force , but it was severely deformed. That clone went on to become Snoke. Palpatine controlled Snoke to influence Ben to turn to the dark side and become a sith. Palpatine is Snoke, Rey’s Father, and Rey’s Grandfather.
But technically none of those because he’s a clone?
*Tada*
And just to keep it short
Hot garbage 😂😂
mind...blown...holy yeet
stephaniemsegura09 *the holiest of yeets*
I thought they retconned the EU so Stars Wars would be less convoluted?
In EU were 3 Palpatine's clones...now we have the same in one movie.
The Chancellor looking like he's suffering from drug addiction after his wife left him
Where were you when reys grandmama said bye bye senate?
chagis100 I was at house
Then friend call me, phone ring
“Grandma is kil”
“no”
Lord Yamcha bruh😂😂😂
Palpatine looked like the dr from Hellraiser 2 lol🤣😂🤣
Yoda: hmm, not that different we are after all, want to smoke ketamine with me do you?
Disney: I AM ALTERING THE CANON, PRAY I DO NOT ALTER IT FURTHER!
Lucas: This deal is getting worse all the time
@@ARandomInternetUser08 ua-cam.com/video/WpE_xMRiCLE/v-deo.html
@@ProfessorKlamp what is it?
This Deal's Getting Worse All The Time | Robot Chicken | Adult Swim Classic sketch on youtube
They didn't alter anything. They just straight up stole and rewrote. ZERO Originality.
I'll be sticking with Star Wars Legends as my primary religious material.
It was PERFECTLY answered in the movie how he survived.
"The dark side of the sand is a highground that younglings consider to be 'Hello there'"
i want this line in a star wars movie yesterday.
I just had a stroke
Godzilla NO
you made Godzilla have a stroke trying to read this.
No not even that, I think Poe put it best in episode 9, "Somehow Palpatine came back..."
Excute order 66th
Its simple he climbed inside a refrigerator, it worked for Indiana Jones.
Jonathon Toney 😂
Worked for Boris Johnson, too.
Han Solo? Haha
@@stevecampkin8613 so that's how you get rid of covid.
🤣🤣🤣
I don't care. For me Anakin killed him
As it is and how it always should be...
He still did.
Ofcourse kurwa ofcourse
He did kill him but he came back
He failed in both timelines. Palpatine is beyond any prophecy.
"He created this clone that wasn't all that great..."
Basically Palpatine's entire plan is a metaphor for the production of the Sequel Trilogy.
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That shit is hilarious lol hahaha
Only your interpretation.
@@zairman search your feelings, you know it to be true
Disney is genius after all?
Palpatine: "Vader killed me!"
Rey: "Vader killed you?"
Palpatine: "Well I got better..."
*Bites lightsaber to hide face from laughing*
I would have loved to see Kylo's reaction to that, he would have been like "Wait, what?! Vader turned AWAY form the dark side???"
A Witch! A witch!
Nice reference.
@@lukemanion2 How do you know she is a witch?
"I was saved, by a bunch of fans" - Darth Maul HISHE
Convenient that is
@@the_gamer08dylanj20 I know right!
Keizer Van Enerc More like Disney ran out of interesting villains other then Papatine.
DEAD
@@osnofa__ You guys are ruining my funeral!!!
Jj post eps7: snoke was ancient, pre phantom
Jj post eps9: snoke is just genes
Happy Steve so it’s not possible that his a clone of an ancient being? Also jj is known for misdirecting the audience
The snoke we see in the sequels is literally a clone of snoke.
They literally showed and told us this.
I might have to execute order 66 on you
JJ is known for creating set ups he cant pay off
@@sheadoherty7434 it wasn't entirely JJ's fault for that.
This kind of reminds me of robot chicken: the emperor falling down the reactor shaft, frame freeze and music starts then he starts to tell the story😂😂😂
I literally had the same thought.
Me too lmao
Palpatine died and was disintegrated, anakin fulfilled the prophecy of birthing the chosen one, and Luke would restore the peace. End. Of. Story.
Anakin birthed the chosen one? Anakin is the chosen one lol
I don't see the problem. Even in Legends and pre-Disney canon, Palpatine survived somehow
@@chrismc410 that's why it's legends
Starwars is a story about Anakin Skywalker, the chosen one.
Rey is the jedi who brought balance to the force. Deal with it
Fans: "Wait did Palpatine live or die?"
Disney: "Yes"
Read the old Dark Empire from Legends. That's where they ripped it from.
He died,except he was cloned later!
Shreodinger's Emperor
He died to save Anakins arc but later came to life to rape it before killing it
Lmao
Fans: "How did Palpatine survive???"
Palpatine: "Simple, Anakin gave me the high ground above his head..."
Anakin: "I am a slow learner.."
Liar!
Ah novelizations: The ultimate retconning in the form of theory confirmation or shooting down.
I'm honestly surprised this guy bothers making vids. I'm pretty sure its just for the money at this point because who actually likes this shit?
@@4pfBulmond Dude everyone one on UA-cam is here for the money don't lie to yourself....
@@4pfBulmond what UA-camr do you know that isn't on UA-cam for the money?
@@4pfBulmond No one has any business in the star wars youtube fandom criticizing any content creator BEFORE you talk about MIKE ZEROH - the dude WOULD NOT SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STILL DOES NOT about CLICK BAIT SHIT! ALMOST 10 VIDEOS A DAY from that asshole. I had to block him. Glad to see his subs have completely stalled.
@@ddrguy3008 i haven't seen him on my recommended or anything lol
Legend has it a mysterious mouse-shaped figure used some force abilities that no one ever even knew existed to save Palpatine
Legend says that mouse shaped figure was rewarded with a lot of credits
I believe it’s called power of attorney and a billion dollars.
I am like a dog chasing cars I wouldn’t know what to do if I caught one.
@@singularity420694.7 Billion if memory serves. Lol ;p
Can you imagine if Mickey Mouse was actually a Sith Lord? Sounds like something in Kingdom Hearts lmao
How Rey and Palpatine should have met
Rey: Who are you?
Palpatine: I am the Senate
Ok you spoiled Disney’s 10th film
It's treason then
I don’t want to be negative but who cares at this point? They just write everything into books instead of the movies.
And if it doesn’t fit the first time, it gets rewritten anyway.
Ryker just like the entire TLJ novel
I care. It’s interesting
Nice for you both but I wish I could care too but I just see how they are trying to sell us fans as fools
The prequels were trash until the clone Wars series
he never survived! the chosen one killed him that day. 789 is just a bad dream.
Few Ok thanks
You underestimate the power of Money
Yes
GermanGDragon one I wish I hadn’t seen
Mike Sandoval George Lucas would disagree with u
Now palpatine transferred his mind from being electrocuted by rey into his other clone factory he prepared
I hope because that movie was shit
@@BEIMFS yup
Palps is taking another reach.
exactly, because he also foresaw this second betrayal long before Rey was born and now Rey's great great granddaughter is going to be force sensitive and "finish" the sith for good in Disney's Star wars: Episode 10-A new new beginning
@@BEIMFS better than episode 1 and 2 at least
So is Snoke just a failed clone of Palpatine with his own personality or is he actually controlled by Palpatine?
same question
Failed clone, but used as a vessel for palpatine to control snoke in order to manipulate kylo in order to get to Rey.
@@Lustie its not possible cause Snoke knew that Rey and Kylo were connected and Sidious didnt, It might be some kind of clone but not possesed by Sidious
@@bleyd__ he doesn't have any kind of personality, he is controlled by Palpatine because Snoke does know that they're connected somehow but he doesn't know they're a dyad. Plus, Palpatine is the one who's so strong in the force he can connect Rey and kylo together, it couldn't have been a mere clone
It's not nearly as deep as u think or hope. Snoke was nothing but a shortsighted writing mistake
Plagueis is referred to in ROTS, so he’s canon.
Canon or not, his importance has and will ever be eternal. Nothing this lazy directors can do about it.
In ROTS Plagueis is mentioned as a legend heavily implied he actually existed but certainly not as recent as to be Palps master. So I’m glad they kept that
Nick Dibble-Kahn Palpatine was telling Anakin that it was a Legand to intricate him to join the Sith, Palpatine already knew what he needed from Plagueis, so he killed him as mentioned in ROTS and the Plagueis Novel.
@@Zevoxian Palpatine was pretty obviously joking and badmouthing Plagueis because he knew him. I doubt he would know so much about this random Sith and then be sassy about him without being his apprentice.
Love how clonimg is imperfect, but there was literaly a war like 70+ years before this called the clone wars where cloning was the whole base of the war
more like 50+ years
Clonning a force user is far more complex, even in legend.
I'm guessing splicing midichlorians hasn't been perfected. In the clone wars, we even saw mutated clones.
Maybe cloning was the secret to immortality, and the reason why palpstine created the seperatists was so that he could support the cloning efforts and claim it for itself since he allowed Camino into the galactic republic. After claiming it, he shut the facility down, moved all the tech and research he could get to Exogul and begin his cloning process. Problem is, the camino people wouldnt follow him and the empire had them executed as palpatine thought he had the knowledge to clone himself but where he didnt thats why it kept fucking up.
in Star Wars Force Unleashed II they also couldnt clone Starkiller so....
I’d rather watch Obi-Wan saying “hello there” on a 3hr loop then watch a single Disney film that stole ideas from Star Wars
When Obi Wan says "Hello there" it reminds me of when Ozzy Osbourne says it in a drugged up interview.
@@lazperry3519 lol me and you are very alike
Disney bought Star Wars
Hello there is a legendary quote
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"All of these things were just failed experiments." Just like the entire sequel trilogy.😆😢😭
So Palpatine did a voldemort
Luke did a Snape
*Tried to
Рангел Кочаров I don’t get it 😂
Pritty much
Pretty much Snape kills Dumbledore
Luke tries to kill Ben (fails)
Yup Stupid I know
I was just thinking about that
Disney: the extened universe is now none canon!!!! We wanna do our own thing!!!!
Also disney: quick steal all the ideas from the extended universe and give those writers no credit!!!!
Disney: *makes EU not canon*
Disney: WrItInG NeW StAr WaRs MoViEs Is HaRd bEcAuSe wE DoNt HaVe aNy SoUrCe MaTeRiAl To BaSe It oN
The reason it was made legends was not to de-canonize the material. Instead, it was done so they could use characters from legends without being forced to stick to already established story lines. It's actually a brilliant move and has worked successfully.
@@brianborstein8456 oh yeah, the sequel trillogy has been super successful.
Thats why we have a movie thats a new hope 2.0, a movie that breaks most of star wars, and another movie that spends 90% of its run time trying to fix everything the second broke.
Heres hoping the new CEO will actually be able to fix everything.
And to be fair de-canonizing is exactly what they did. Just because they cherry pick ideas and arguablely make them worse doesnt change that.
@@pablofski3239 Disney had nothing to do with what was, is or would not be considered canon. This is a sad misconception that has propagated itself through social media and fan speculation. The decision on what was to be canon, originated from George Lucas, and if you did a bit of research you could come across multiple interviews with him giving his thoughts on the EU, as early as the late 1980's. The only thing Disney did was reaffirm the role of the Star Wars Story Group in their effort to maintain continuity of the franchise.
@@generalgrevious815 , never said they didn't de-canonize legends. Matter of fact, it's exactly what I stated. Success is not gauged by a few butthurt fanboys.
Towards the end of Return of the Jedi, Palpatine did defend himself against Vader. He wasn't just spazing out in a rage. He was using force lightning and overloading Vader's life support circuits. Palpatine was paralyzed because Vader's cybernetic hand crushed his spine. Novelization of ROJ.
*Disney caught him.*
TheBrickGuy7939 “you’re not dead yet Palpatine, we have more money to make”
🤣
Mickey Mouse:Hang on bro, I got ya!
If this was his backup, why didn’t The Sith Eternal hire Kaminoians to get the clone right? Leave it to the professionals.
lastdragon55 good comment
Maybe because Kaminoioans were experienced in normal cloning, but not in cloning bodies for force sesitives or people with a high midichlorian count.
Could be that even they would be repulsed by that; maybe they did have some scruples? Or Palpatine just assumed they would rat him out? Because it would’ve unfolded everything Palpatine has done! Just one word from the Kaminos would have toppled his entire agenda and he would’ve been executed or in prison.
Why didnt Vader just go to the Kaminoians to get a clone l too
roderick k. Didnt they clone/play a significant role in cloning Starkiller?
Are we all gonna forget that Lucasfilm once said Snoke's injuries had something to do with an encounter between him & Luke Skywalker🤥🤥🤥
Millyonz 258 The sequel trilogy was not planned and what J.J. had in mind was thrown out by Rain. The last movie was 8 and 9 put together last minute. Rain’s 8 practically didn’t happen.
they didnt say that, they sayed his particular hatred or motif against the ones he fought was fueled by what they did to him in what relates to his body and face... nothing SPECIFICAL about Luke, still dumb... and in TFA novelization Snoke sayes that he saw the empire RISE AND FALL explain that fucking lucasfilm
@@locoarticwolf2181 I had to think about that for a second.But your pretty much right..Ep9 did mostly white wash over the Last Jedi.You can scrap Ep8 and still Ep9 would play out the same.Except for Luke dying..Which is a shame
There was no plan. JJ didn't care. JJ is all style, no substance. He always writes garbage and let's others try to explain it.
@@agustinbaletti Well Snoke is Palpatine so he DID see the rise and fall of the Empire...
I can’t believe you called the baby yoda plot-line 8 months out.
Dude fr, I had to come back to this vid after the latest episodes and I remembered Theory called it first haha
Which video
he really hasn't
He saw into the future predicted Mandalorian season two is it possible to learn this power
@@Lopez03Eduardo. (eerie pause), not from a jedi.
Plaguess should have been the one hiding out on exogol after his apprentice attempted to assassinate him. Fakes his death and returns after jumping body to body!
Yes it would make anakins redemption much better and plaguis is also a lot more original than palpatine
completely agree with this i wrote something about this is one of his former videos and i got like 300 likes it was a way better option they could have gave him the same voice as snoke and could have said that snoke was a vessel for him and then if u really wanted to keep the ending the same after plagues is defeated he transfers his essence into rey and kylo makes an incredibly hard decision encouraged by rey to kill her along with killing the essence of plagueis and then he can do his weird meditation shit and bring her back.
Exactly! Now that would've been must-see " TV". They really dropped the ball on that one. Smh
Now this I would’ve been a great idea!
That's too creative for modern Lucasfilm.
My thought: What if Plagueis actually did "discover the secret" and he transferred his consciousness into another body before Sidious killed him??
I would like to see that maybe they could do that in a movie not Disney tho
He did. But it says he wasn't able to do it fast enough before Palpatine killed him.
Wasn't he like drunk out of his mind too at the time of his death
Lanky Lemon yeah he was I believe sidious got him drunk on purpose to prevent him from transferring.
Maybe he transferd into sidious.
“As once I fell so falls the last skywalker” loved that line so much!
Me too he looked like a demon possessed character, almost creepy with those yellow piercing eyes and evil look on his face. I thought it was the best moment in the entire sequel trilogy.
Paul Koster yes!!!!
From what I've seen in Star Wars canon, cloning regular beings like soldiers (clone troopers/Jango/Boba Fett) was easy to do, but cloning FORCE USERS (Luuke Skywalker, Starkiller clones) was an imperfect art and had lots more challenges. I always assumed the Imperials wanted Grogu to try and fine-tune their creation of a new body for Palpatine.
Every time I hear “Eternal” I’m referring to Star Wars I always think about the Eternal Empire
In referring
Let’s be honest, Valkorion is much more powerful and Palpatine. He ruled 2 Empires.
Benjamin Bayless I agree in my personal opinion Valkorion is more powerful than Palpatine and I prefer him as a big bad guy
@@benjaminbayless5787 and, like palpatine/snoke, he was a sith spirit inside another body
Orson Lepherd yeah, Valkorion lasted for many millennia. Palps lasted for like 50 years. Big difference, right?
The sad reality is that this whole story about Palpatine is just an attempt at retconning the disaster of The Last Jedi. While I personally didn't mind TLJ, I think that it completely destroyed the chance of making Snoke a Viable villian. With all the information about Snoke being an ancient species, and the images from the first two movies depicting a create like Snoke, showing that he had his story changed at the last minute.
That's what I keep telling people, an everyone just calls me a hater.
Simone Ellmers agreed. But just going off of this novelization, the person did a good job of trying to fill the mess of holes the film left behind.
Duh
That was planned out, actually
The Palpatine lineage in Rey is way more obvious now, the First Order being secretly controlled by Palpatine is HELLA obvious now, and, honestly, we should have seen it coming anyway
Did you really believe one the greatest Sith ever, one who knew how to manipulate life and death, dies from being thrown down a nuclear fuckin well?
It was the rushed job of implementing him and his connection to Rey in TRoS, like most of that movie’s actual problems, that were due to TLJ, those specifically were due to JJ not being straightforward about his plans with RJ before he took over, and JJ wanting to use his own ideas anyway
Hell, Rey’s Palpatine lineage isn’t even a true retcon, it was Kylo talking shit to manipulate a Rey into joining his cause, he never established it as fact, nothing really did, and Kylo never established himself as trustworthy enough to just take it as such, at face value, with zero evidence
Him coming clean later is a guilty conscience coming clean in an effort to earn redemption, not a hastily planned retcon
- My question is what was Rian Johnson's idea of the big bad in the third movie? Surely, he didn't think that Kylo was it? What were any of them thinking with they justified the death of Snoke?
Midi-chlorians or the Force itself cannot be cloned. So the “human” body that was cloned cannot contain the Force. So the Force strikes back at the being that tries to contain the Force in itself and literally consumes the body, deteriorating it, feeding it back to the Cosmic Force.
Whoooaaa....
cgonz idk about this necessary, unless it’s canon elsewhere. I know force unleashed isn’t canon anymore but Star Wars has explored the cloning of force users before. I just think that palpatine wasn’t ready yet and had perfected the Kaminoan cloning process
That and the imperfect essence transfer
Its quite possible that this is the case, but i wouldnt say its impossible to acheve an ideal clone, just something really, REALLY hard.
Like he said, maybe Baby Yoda's genes(a species that is really strong in the force) would have been a key ingredient in such an achivement.
So not only is Rey Palpatine alive BUT Sheev spirit is too?? WHAT'S TO STOP HIM FROM COMING BACK AGAIN?😂? If it was a clone.. & if he was a clone in Jedi then then why wait 30yrs & start a new crew (1st Order) without knowing they were force diad ??? STUPID!!!!!‼
What about the Dorsk Jedi?
Kathleen Kennedy in a Star Wars meeting:
"change the canon...change it now... DEW IT"
Fans : it’s dumb if Palps survived the Death Star fall.
Star Wars: He actually chucked his essence across the galaxy to a clone body 👍
Fans: That’s dumb.
Litteraly happens in legends to.
Hunter Rygiel
It was dumb in legends too.
I chucked my essence across the room and hit my girlfriend
But it was cool when Maul survived his fall
LJ no he should have stayed dead. The best thing he did since coming back was that fight with Obi-wan on Tatooine. All his other development seemed like filler.
For good measure, he was chopped in half, it’s dumb if he survives that.
Hey if he transferred his consciousness into another body then that would be good enough but the fact that Vader could've only killed a clone is just ruining the prophecy
Lunar Omega But Palpatine "cheated". Also in retrospect Anakin restored balance for 30yrs
@@Aristocratic13 yes but palpatine never died. Everything just repeated.
Did Anakin really do all that just to have balance for 30years? I'm not saying that evil shouldnt have come back, but to have Palpatine to never die and really just go on a hiatus kills the prophecy.
@Jacob Underwood no it was Anakins prophecy Lucas said it himself
@Jacob Underwood pretty sure the prophecy was two parts. In the prequels, that Anakin would bring balance to the force leaving 2 jedi and 2 sith(but expanded canon has given us more jedis). And then for the return of Anakin in episode 6.
@@Jj443re bruh LUCAS SAID THE PROPHECY WAS ABOUT ANAKIN
It seems that after Palpatine realises that Ben and Rey are the dyad, he reminisces about the time when he wanted to create a Dyad between himself and Anakin. Bloody hell, Palps...
He should have enlisted the Caminoans to clone him since they are supposedly the only species to have mastered cloning
Fairly certain he destroys them. IFRC.
Yea i thought I remembered them destroying them, and I dont think they could clone midiclorians thats why they cloned a bounty hunter.. Maybe this is why cloning ends up so janky its the forces way of resisiting just like how anakin was created in first place...resistance to their expermients
Maybe that blue “explosion” was his consciousness leaving his body
Sith lightning feed back loop, grounding on himself... boom splat
@Kev420 yh, in KOTOR, when Darth Traya died, she turned into a sith force ghost, and she kind of went up in green fire when she died!
Probably
Sure, that works
no, it was his bowel contents leaving his body.
One line said: "Sidious (...) had been ready for years."
And then a few lines later: "It was too soon."
So which is it? Had he properly prepared, and been ready for years? Or did it happen before he was ready?
He prepared for his betrayal, to use the power to transfer. But too soon for the clone body.
@@zairman What you said. The preparations were all there, but were incomplete. Palpatine's clone was imperfect.
It's just terrible writing.
I feel bad for the writers of these novels. It basically falls to them to make the movies make sense and close these plot holes.
@@zairman So then wouldn't it be better to write...
"Sidious had been preparing for years."
When you're ready, you're ready. Then you don't have any more preparations to do.
Right so this does undoe everything Vader did and made his whole arc pointless.
It doesn’t undo everything Vader did. He ALWAYS wanted to kill Palpatine, but it was to gain power. Instead, he did it to save his son. THAT was his redemption. It’s not about the “what,” it’s about the “why.”
GameStation3 But his son died fighting the forces of the same villain, so did he really save him?
GameStation3 it wasn’t about redeeming himself....it was always about bringing balance which Disney just ruined
Kiwichu _uwu - “Bring back the balance, Rey, as I did.”
@@Luno207 that's a good point but that's like saying. My dad saved me from dying of a heart attack but it doesn't matter because I died of another one fifty years later.
I couldn't help but notice the Obi wan in the background. it looks like he's looking at you
He looks confused too, like," What in the *fuck* are you talking about?!"
Yeah like what TF is he talking about.
fr lmao
Alternate title: Disney tries to turn one massive plot crater into many smaller craters.
Nice 🤣
Ahahahahahaha Giggity my friend...you know whats up
On a technicality, palpatine had the high ground when vader lifted him above.
DiSnEy PrEsEnTS
STAR WARS EPISODE 10 : ALTERED CARBON
Episode 10, Palpatine strokes it again. That's the one about what happened to his fingers.
Thanks for a good chuckle
If he can send his consciousness to other vessels, then he is effectively impossible to kill. That means even at the end of the sequels, his consciousness is still alive.
So many plot holes
Yet another reason why the sequel trilogy is crap.
That is possible, but not the only possible conclusion. E.g. It's clearly possible that the essence transfer requires a vessel and that the 'spirit' as such would die without any remaining conduits. (The ability to transfer consciousness between conduits does not entail that the consciousness can survive independently without any conduits.)
@@proprioceptive_ultragamer I'm sure he sent it to one of his more than willing clones or acolytes. He's definitely still alive and impossible to kill.
Yes, but consciousness without a body is harmless. Basically the same thing happened in sauron, Saruman and Voldemort. After their deaths their spirits remained, but they were unable to take any sort of form anymore. Voldemort’s spirit got stuck into some impotent fetus that dumbledore said that Harry couldn’t help. So this is quite similar to that.
I am still confused as to why Disney has not hired you yet to save Star Wars.
who knows, at this point
Because he doesn't see obvious idiotic plot Band-Aids.. in clone wars they mass produced hundreds of walking functioning troopers.. yet post clone wars Palpatine's lackeys couldn't get ONE right?
Yoda's species is the most force sensitive and attuned in the Galaxy.. yet video creator thinks it's his 'life span' they were after for genetic splicing.
Lol.
When you have to explain a major plot point of your movie in a book that's just bad writing.
Word
im getting flashbacks to destiny
“is plagueis now not canon because of the book”
have you ever heard of the tragedy of darth plagueis the wise?
flyte yeah but technically only the name was canon. With know extended lore canon post Disney.
Gabriel M. He is mentioned in Disney canon, I believe it was in the Tarkin novel. Sidieous talks about him.
How do people still think Plagiues is Legends? He's literally mentioned in Revenge of the Sith
"The Force is a path way to many abilities some may consider to be unnatural"
I wanted to punch someone when I heard that line. So incredibly lame.
Escape Goat of an excuse by Disney!
@@rao3704 but it wasn't lasy excuse to surviving unsurvival there.
This movie was like fallout: it is still not making sense after revisions( DLC)
As Yoda said to Luke, "Cosmic beings are we, not this crude matter!"
So I guess immortality through transferring your essence/consciousness makes a lot more sense than preserving your original body.
Yeah, unless that body is even weaker than the last one.
Luminous beings are we
Palpatine be Beby Yoda be like: mweheheheh I am baaaack jEDI **laughing in stewie voice**
He didn’t survive. His essence survived. He even said in the rise of skywalker that he has already died.
Something doesn’t die if it lives on
@@bonzupippinpaddleopsicopol8094 he died and was reborn pretty much, you're both right
Abusive Grandfather he WAS died?
I doubt
Jose Maksyhung his body died but his spirit lived.
Your body isn't you, it is part of you which your consciousness controls, the body died but his consciousness is him which lived on therefore he didn't really die.
I love how Palpatine says "JEDI"
Us: "Did you die?"
Palpatine: "Well yes, but actually no."
Yooooo this past episode was spot on about your theory of baby yoda...... 8 months later 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Right?! Well done, Star Wars Theory!
Had a scary theory he WAS baby yoda good thing it wasn't true
So he pulled off a force essence transfer. Dope
They shouldve never brought him back lol
edit: ive drawn a suirrel if anyone is interested :3 (kinda cute/disgusting)
could try a star wars character next
Literally had 3 movies to make a villain, and instead makes one, no background, mysterious, doesn't exactly make sense but its the new villain so okay, kill him with not much more info, and recycles one in a way that makes absolutely no sense and the hilarious part is they didn't even give one fuck to explain either one.
ArtWithDatDude Official no I think it’s cool but his death was doo doo
@cris tian. It makes perfect sense, 30 years ago a graphic novel 6 part series came out called The Dark Empire.
Its literally all about sidious coming back as a clone, it tells how, why, what, when, where and who. It also explains the decay of the clones and why sidious had hundreds of clones of himself stored away.
@@danielwight3517 oh you mean that thing that was scrapped by Disney and "not cannon?"
What disney deems Canon or not is besides the question and completely opposite this topic, you state that what happened makes no sense what so ever.
I'm saying that it makes perfect sense, and that Abrahms did the best he could, being a true starwars fan boy who could only do so much with a series that was under scrutiny and intense pressure by not only the public but by Disney and their need to keep an image.
If you read the dark empire or were at all a star wars fan. You'd have known that Abrahms did show cloning chambers hosting decayed and destroyed clones of sidious, which was a direct reference to the dark empire and a tip of the hat to James lucenos Darth Plagueis.
I'll chose fact over uneducated opinion any day. And whether disney says Canon or not, star wars Legends series will forever be Canon.
I bet you don't even know why the death star was created... You probably think it's sole purpose was to destroy the rebellion..
Do I keep spoiling these parts of the novel for myself? "I'm being torn apart"
" I want more , and I know I shouldn't "
He said it him self. "The dark side of The Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be, unnatural."
Classic modern Star Wars, always have to have a book explain everything
Yes and modern Star Wars fans like that
Well if people stop whining about “that makes no sense” maybe they wouldn’t.
Awwwww boohoo reading must be so hard
@@echo3-125 Dude, this is mainly a movie franchise. The fact that to understand what goes on in a movie you have to go out of your way to buy a book, means the movie was a failure.
Esteban Ferreras you do realize there’s more Star Wars books than movies right?
no one:
Me: Palatine electrocuted himself at the end of each trilogy.
If you watch it back look closely, palp stops lightning and rey starts lightning to kill palp
useless “no one”
@@arrondaly really ? Rey actually shot her own lightning there ?
Me in the back: Someone also gets thrown into a hole in each of those scenes!
*Palastine
6:33 When you come up with a theory in the middle of a new theory and you think you're a genius.
Bro just wanna say I love your channel and I appreciate having a UA-cam channel I can watch about unanswered Star Wars cannon / theory. Keep being awesome and never stop!
The gene splicing makes sense, because it seems Palpatine has Neimoidian like fingers.
I've recently become a star wars fan. But this entire trilogy makes zero sense even to someone like me. It will forever tarnish a story
Hen Mar welcome
HELLO THERE
@@obi--wan7181 General Kenobi...you are a bold one.
Palpatine: to cheat death, is a power only one can achieve.
Maul laughs in a desert.
He didnt die. His hatred prolonged his life as he created those spider legs from junk.
Archer, Emissary of the Gorgonites but he cheated it???
@@forsaken696 that cheating FROM dying. Not cheating FROM death. Death means you have died already. Owned.
Archer, Emissary of the Gorgonites he died in rebels
Adrian Rouse And he wasn't in the desert when he had the spider legs, not until he died on tatooine's desert in rebels. i hate the internet
Sidious transferring his essence into Grogu who could potentially live near 1,000 years is probably the scariest thing I can think of
lmfaooo
At least Disney haven't gone further back in the timeline and change revenge of the sith and say palpatine was a clone or somthing stupid like that because they should never ruin anakins story like they have with palpatine.
Technically they didnt ruin palpatines story at all if he still had a clone EU or not.
T-G_STEVE yea the clone arcs are widely panned as some of the worst of the eu
I mean he was a clone in return of the Jedi wasn't he?
This needs to explanation. He explained it in the movie. “The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be...unnatural.”
When vader finds out that he died in vain:
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOooo!!!"
He didn't though. He brought balance to the force for years.
@@Boristien405 No he didn't. Palpatine never died and the sith were never destroyed. The force was just as out of balance as it was during the republic when the sith were planning galactic conquest from the shadows.
Well Vader didn't bring balance to the force but he DID still save Luke... even though he would later die fighting the same poeple... so there's that... i guess.
@@MonteCreations rewatch the mortis act. He brought balance. It just wasn't the way we were lead to believe. But then again oh well
@@bobafett4141 Really? when in the mortis arc is it revealed that the son didn't actually die and then ahsoka has to kill him instead?
I always thought that the burst of energy that came up the tube vader threw palpatine down in return of the Jedi was palpatine's essence escaping his body, it always felt so evil and alive every time I watched that scene.
Leave it to Disney to take the climax of another perfect story, and throw it into another story without any of the buildup.
Love how baby Yoda enters the conversation of Palpatine 😂 He's the real MVP!!
Disney: palpatine survived the fall.
SW community: how?
George Lucas: the dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
SW community: Sir, no one could’ve survived that fall.
M Lau he didn’t! Only his spirit did! Kinda like how Jedi can die and become Force Ghosts
M Lau the dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Lucas himself said he was dead. So im pretty sure he would never say something like that. thats disneys doing
Clark Strange Force ghosts is something sith cannot do. Nor can they bring people back to life,those were light side powers. It's how Palpatine tricked Anakin in to joining the dark side to save Padme, knowing damn well he couldn't do it, at least not yet.
Plot twist: He didnt, nobody cares about Disney canon.
ShadowNny hey that’s not very nice, I agree with him, Disney canon is dumb af, if kylo was the skywalker that would rise it would’ve been way better, hell if they just had a 1 minute scene of anakin I think it would be better, but Kathleen Kennedy was like oopsie my bad sorry for no Hayden Christensen, she literally fucked the end of Star Wars into oblivion, the worst plot line in the saga was the sequels
clearly you do since you have the audacity to come here and type this comment then leave soon after
I care.
@@elitescout4800
proof that fan theories ruin your experience
I care. Though I agree that the sequels suck.
“Finally revealed” actual Disney response, we had to make one up cause they brought him back 😂
The guy has manipulated the entire freaking galaxy to be emperor of the universe. And you're upset that he saw Anakin's betrayal coming? And that he uses cloning (which was at his fingertips the whole time) and sith magic to do it??? What is wrong with you? This is Palpatine... be smarter....
This shit was INEVITABLE
In the comics he always has a plan b so it's not far fetched. The reason this feels like bs is because Palpatine/Snoke was not built up OR properly executed, so you have that rushed feeling.
@WARLORD op "good lore" lmao
WARLORD op damn lol it was a joke fellas, I’m just saying what other say as a joke, don’t take everything so serious, it’s to joke on Disney’s behalf, and you should check yourself, all you tend to do is go on attack mode cause you get offended. Work on that bud. Learn to speak instead of shit out your mouth, it’ll benefit you in life. And it’s always easy to bitch when you have a fake profile and try to be a tough guy. Makes you a coward lol. So don’t speak and tell me how things should be when even I on the spot have more character depth then snoke did in his one appearance. Glad you enjoy shit writing kid. There is a difference in having to make something on the spot and messing up the lore they had to make something up entirely to what it was supposed to become. So don’t talk, you are wasting your breath cause you clearly don’t know a thing about making films, rather hiding behind a keyboard and get offended
Palpatine died from a heart attack do to Vader betraying him and his fear of heights
The blue stuff coming out of the hole Palpatine fell into could of been his soul traveling to the new clone body
I’m calling it - in the Mandalorian, the Empire/Palpatine is trying to steal “long life” genes from baby yoda’s species so that Palpatine’s clone vessels live longer
Nick C At least that will be more interesting than the mary sue(rey) story we got.
Also midichlorians - my bet is that the reason the Palpatine clones were imperfect is because they could replicate the body genetics but not the midichlorian levels necessary to contain all that dark side energy
Yes if we somehow learn about this in season 2 of Mando I’m going to be very excited
Holy fuck that’s an amazing theory.
All this talk of failed clones reminds me of one of the most tragic deaths in all of star wars, 99's death on Kamino
Plagueis was always Canon after Revenge of the Sith the books being legends doesn't change the movie Canon.
And the fact they mentioned his name in episode 3 at the opera scene
Drew S that is Revenge of the Sith
@@mudra4227 my point exactly
@@shadynasty808 You mean the OP's point exactly. You just needlessly repeated what he said.
Not canon
Oooooooor, and this is my personal favorite theory: Disney effed up : )
True prequel fans: palpatine died. Disney: he got back up
daniel morales prequel Fans ?
Wtf
@@noblenormie1179 yes, because the prequels are not as bad as people think it really is
TGs Train Clips I Never doubted that you idiot i like them
But I don’t remember Palaptine dying in the prequels