I almost feel like BMW never intended for these cars to be a proper hot hatch, as they didn't really change anything major over a 120d other than shoving a massive engine in it- one of the last proper big engine small car combos- guaranteed future classic!
@@braveheart40kglasgow56 That said, they're still not nearly good enough and you really get the impression that it's the M sport package car like a 120d with a big engine in it.
I had mine four years and the fuel injectors gave up so had a 5 cylinder. Also my oil filter completely dissintegrated when i was getting it serviced (I was lucky amd none of it got dragged through the engine). Also had a random control module shit the bed so i couldnt select a drive mode or anything and both window regulators broke withing a week of each other. Mine never went near a garage without costing a grand and i loved it.
Really don’t rate the m2 style front bumper on these, doesn’t match the rest of the car at all. An M2 has the wider arches, aggressive body lines to match, this just looks naff. The colour however 🔥🔥
Absolutely great car, especially when you start doing some handling mods + LSD. They're just far too common for my liking. Would rather go for a M240i for that reason alone
I bought the m140i cause they were a sleeper and ended up selling it cause it was a sleeper. This lack of android auto, boring seats and no lsd are the biggest dissapointments. Thanks for the video!
Had a 2019 m140i shadow edition it was a lot of fun, but seriously if nothing else get an LSD done and maybe suspension. Love the B58 and ZF 8 so much so that I initially did consider another higher spec M140I but ended up with a fully loaded Z4 m40i, all the m140i best bits in a sharper suit, modern interior plus tech 😊
I like the plain look. As a 32 year old I am now in that category of wanting to have something with good performance but not look like I spend my days walking through the aisles of Halfords. Some lowering springs and an upgraded exhaust is perfect 👌 😊
I have a M240I and I love it. But you gave it a bit too much hate. The interior quality is better that a Golf, the seats are the same as in the classic M2 and the front bumper on this car is M2 style, not M2C style.. But the rest was true.
I bought one the other day to replace a 987 Cayman because I need rear seats. Insurance is twice as much! I was shocked. Loooooverly drive though. Carplay would be nice, but bluetooth to play my tunes through the HK audio is good enough for me
I believe if your interested in the 140 the 340 is supposedly to have cheaper insurance rate due to it not being written off and also having x drive (arguably better looks imo)
@@danhall5761 Then Buy an M2 Comp. and LSD and suspension mods on an M140 is still cheaper than an M2 comp, which you can also put better suspension on. Also the M2 isn't a hatch and the M140i has a very unique charm about it as a hot hatch.
Needs the WLAN port. It for sure is more complicated but definitely possible ✅. Also on non evo or non wlan business units it can still be fitted using an MMI interface.
I like mine looking standard. People think it's a regular 1 series until it leaves them for dust. The analogue dials are plus point for me, as is the round steering wheel.
When they first came out , they was so cheap . I bought one brand new in 2017 and i only paid £26300 ,was a good car especially for the money . Really miss the low down torque
I need to readjust the front bumper it’s not the bonnet, it’s just so fidgety as it’s not an OEM part and it’s getting colder I cba to bother, it annoys me to fk though!
My fiancé bought a 120d recently online direct from bmw , when it got delivered I noticed the gap straight away and just popped the bonnet and sorted it out
I've had a manual LCI M240 for 3 years, mostly because the insurance was half the price on a 140, naturally I've done a few mods Stage 2 plus Dyno tune sports cat Mst intake Spacers Fully adjustable coilovers Uprated tyres (F1 asymmetric 6) Ebc brakes Plus the carbon tarty bits The car is probably less fun and more shocking now, even in 1st I don't get wheelspin when booting it and the car just sticks It's way easier to drive than stock, The torque curve is less diesel like than before but it's lost a bit of that maniac charm for me, fancying a tyre shredding Jag or AMG next
I definitely wouldn't describe the 140i as standard looking or bland at all, it's far from that, plus the interior quality is the best in class by far but it does lack on tech those comments were unfair for sure.
I had one but tbh didnt rate the car just feel they arent that special especially inside, i bought it overlooking the interior for the drive, but just couldnt fall in love with it, i like this colour though 💪🏻
The traction control saves you before you even realise though, in sports + rhe rear is playful but predictable. If you're not used to it than I get why it puts people off, it's not confidence inspiring 🤣
The only negative experience I had was the harsh ride. It’s just far too firm. Makes daily driving unpleasant. Admittedly I didn’t spec the dynamic suspension. Just a heads up to any prospective buyers:)
I got the dreaded coolant loss on the small tank one min can be ok then it just goes, had compression test done and all good and no drops anywhere on floor etc so been told prob need new turbo as going through that and out exhaust... plus i actually prefer mine without the diff, what people dont understand is that if you leave traction on etc its very hard to get the back end out, but turn it off and thats where things get twitchy bum. All the videos i have seen where they have crashed you can tell they have traction fully off, they back side is just fish tailing everywhere 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Fantastic! Im really wary of the "lemon yellow" description, but this looks much better, almost like the old style angel eyes. Do you have tint on the headlights by any chance?
I had a mk 5 r32 Manual quite a few years ago but now have a m140i auto shadow edition and can't think of a single thing I miss apart from the sound, one of the best sounding cars out there to this day imo although the m140i sounds nice it doesn't have that gargle sound. Absolutely love my 140 tho 👌
A lot of the things that make these great you seem to see as downsides. Yes, an lsd is a must but digital dials suck, shouty exteriors suck and so does 4 wheel drive. All things that make these a better package than your A45 and golf R
I have the xdrive version and I love how understated it looks compared to my ex GR Yaris. Btw the xdrive is definitely not as sketchy as the RWD, but it's actually quite tail happy being AWD compared to other AWDs that I've driven. The biggest problem to me is the lack of ACC since you can't get it at all.
I want to get one but I feel like trying to keep up with something on a gti on uk roads will be impossible until it gets to straights, am I right? Even in sport where ur traction is kept strict will it still be hard
What do you guys thing about the comparison Golf 7.5R vs. BMW 140i? I owned for the last 4 years a Golf 7R which I want to exchange for an Golf 7.5R or an BMW 140i. I will definitely both test driving but do you have clear pros and cons for each of those cars? Which one would you prefer if you could choose? I prefer the looks of the VW but the engine of the BMW.. Thank you in advance!
I owned both , the Golf R puts the power down perfectly (4wd) the M140i does not due to all power going to the back and it is very sketchy at times and you have to always be alert being in UK where roads are always wet. So that might put you off. So get one with LSD. But the b58 engine wins all the way, it sounds and performs amazingly. Regardless what tyres you have you have to always be ready for the rear to surprise you.
I went from a 7.5R to an m140i, Had the R from new and done a few thousand miles but got bored of it after a couple months The golfs have no personality they just drive themselves, The m140’s are 10 times more fun Dodgy? yes, but if you know how to drive it will be no issue! Also find the 140 to be better on fuel even tho its a litre higher than the golf R 🙏 If you can test drive one then definitely give it a go first! Thats how i fell in love 🤣🤣
Good video. I’m glad these cars don’t have CarPlay,mood lighting etc,it’s just not that important. you should be focused on the drive experience not a flashy dash or dicking about with your phone If you want all that rubbish then buy something else.
you are biased. when you had the m140 you never stopped praising it. now... No offense, but as someone who has been following your channel for some time, I started to notice this and it doesn't seem right to me. otherwise, congratulations for what you are doing.
Buy one which already has some mods. It doesn’t get much better than a modded M140i. LSD and coilovers are the most important additions. You can also retrofit an Android Auto module.
The real legend is the n54, twin turbo,first real petrol turbo engine bimma made,with s lot tuning potential, comes forged as standard,but big up the new legend b58 is a don engine aswell.
Never noticed anything with the exhausts but I need to readjust the front bumper it’s not the bonnet, it’s just so fidgety as it’s not an OEM part and it’s getting colder I cba to bother, it annoys me to fk too though!
M2 front bumper imo looks horrible,not a big fan of the colour either my that’s just (my) opinion,I’ll own a 140i at some point wen iv finished with my fully forged golf mk6 R & I’m yet to do the run in on that & that will be on the road in a few days once the meth kit has been put in,i was thinking the M240i but i think the M140i looks better
Jesus Christ everywhere I look there’s a dead ting m140i video on UA-cam 😅😂😂 Everyone is obsessed with them who can’t afford a proper M car or an rs3 or Mercedes etc. They are good for getting power out of them but they are just a cheap clapped out 1 series with a big engine. A 17 year old on minimum wage could afford 1. 😂🤣
The interiors are not awful, they’re boring there’s a difference, the bmw interiors are boring yet the best quality on the market, Mercedes is opposite, looks good but trash quality
I almost feel like BMW never intended for these cars to be a proper hot hatch, as they didn't really change anything major over a 120d other than shoving a massive engine in it- one of the last proper big engine small car combos- guaranteed future classic!
The chassis brakes, suspension, clutch, transmission are all completely different
@@braveheart40kglasgow56 That said, they're still not nearly good enough and you really get the impression that it's the M sport package car like a 120d with a big engine in it.
Currently own an M140i and can 100% vouch for the insurance point at the start. 9 years NCD - and insurance doubled in the year!
That happened to most cars
I’m 21 and I got a 3800 quid bill to insure my 240. Shame insurance companies love to rape young people’s bank accounts.
Mine is due this month. M135i about 5 years ago was like 400 a year.
Renewal of the m140i is 700 this year 🤢
That's standard cars as well
@@seanyboy3700 for the year? Thats mega cheap
That the insurance is sky high because to many idiots smash them up!
I agree, Manual M140i will definitely will be a future classic.
I had mine four years and the fuel injectors gave up so had a 5 cylinder. Also my oil filter completely dissintegrated when i was getting it serviced (I was lucky amd none of it got dragged through the engine). Also had a random control module shit the bed so i couldnt select a drive mode or anything and both window regulators broke withing a week of each other. Mine never went near a garage without costing a grand and i loved it.
Really don’t rate the m2 style front bumper on these, doesn’t match the rest of the car at all. An M2 has the wider arches, aggressive body lines to match, this just looks naff. The colour however 🔥🔥
I agree, M2 front bumper looks pretty awful on these.
So true, it looks amazing when looking at it head on, then as soon as you see the rest of it, it looks super weird
Absolutely great car, especially when you start doing some handling mods + LSD. They're just far too common for my liking. Would rather go for a M240i for that reason alone
I bought the m140i cause they were a sleeper and ended up selling it cause it was a sleeper. This lack of android auto, boring seats and no lsd are the biggest dissapointments. Thanks for the video!
All easily changeable…
+the shitty/almost non existent individual configuration options.Only reason I've still got mine is because of the b58 and practicality
Had a 2019 m140i shadow edition it was a lot of fun, but seriously if nothing else get an LSD done and maybe suspension.
Love the B58 and ZF 8 so much so that I initially did consider another higher spec M140I but ended up with a fully loaded Z4 m40i, all the m140i best bits in a sharper suit, modern interior plus tech 😊
Z4s are underrated, nice car you've got 👌
I like the plain look. As a 32 year old I am now in that category of wanting to have something with good performance but not look like I spend my days walking through the aisles of Halfords. Some lowering springs and an upgraded exhaust is perfect 👌 😊
I have a M240I and I love it. But you gave it a bit too much hate. The interior quality is better that a Golf, the seats are the same as in the classic M2 and the front bumper on this car is M2 style, not M2C style.. But the rest was true.
I bought one the other day to replace a 987 Cayman because I need rear seats. Insurance is twice as much! I was shocked. Loooooverly drive though. Carplay would be nice, but bluetooth to play my tunes through the HK audio is good enough for me
I didn’t spend over a grand on Bilstein B14’s for you to say I just have lowering springs 🥲🥲😂😘
I believe if your interested in the 140 the 340 is supposedly to have cheaper insurance rate due to it not being written off and also having x drive (arguably better looks imo)
Although this is a good tip the 340 costs more upfront and is a sedan, if someone wants a hatch it just wont do.
I've got a manual in the Shadow Edition, it's not just the pre face lifts ones.
That’s an og m2 front end not competition
Great video, I’m after a m140i just like this one tbf, stage 2+ as a minimum with all the handling mods and lsd, can’t wait to own one
I’d rather go for an m2 comp if you’re going to bother with an LSD and suspension mods
@@danhall5761 Then Buy an M2 Comp. and LSD and suspension mods on an M140 is still cheaper than an M2 comp, which you can also put better suspension on. Also the M2 isn't a hatch and the M140i has a very unique charm about it as a hot hatch.
You don’t need pro navi to get carplay, i had it programmed for 250€ on my business navi!
Needs the WLAN port. It for sure is more complicated but definitely possible ✅. Also on non evo or non wlan business units it can still be fitted using an MMI interface.
Beautifully engineered cars. That wrap is absolute 🔥
Thank you! ☺️😎
@@jackwalker355 where did you get it done? Purple is my favourite colour!
That purple is so nice 👌
Thank you so much ☺️
I honestly prefer real dials. Really nice spec overall,especially the wrap. I also prefer the low key look. OEM+ is the way to go.
Just bought an M140i. What rear diffuser, mirror caps and rear spoiler would everyone recommend? Links would help too!! Thanks
There's a reason Toyota approached BMW for the B58 to go into their Supra. Cracking engine.
I like mine looking standard. People think it's a regular 1 series until it leaves them for dust. The analogue dials are plus point for me, as is the round steering wheel.
When they first came out , they was so cheap . I bought one brand new in 2017 and i only paid £26300 ,was a good car especially for the money . Really miss the low down torque
car looks great, wtf is that bonnet gap though
I need to readjust the front bumper it’s not the bonnet, it’s just so fidgety as it’s not an OEM part and it’s getting colder I cba to bother, it annoys me to fk though!
@@jackwalker355 yes that would annoy me too haha, love the colour though
My fiancé bought a 120d recently online direct from bmw , when it got delivered I noticed the gap straight away and just popped the bonnet and sorted it out
Having LCD screens all over the place doesn’t mean better .. unless you are a teenager.
Stunning colour! Lovely car 😎
Thank you!! ☺️
I've had a manual LCI M240 for 3 years, mostly because the insurance was half the price on a 140, naturally I've done a few mods
Stage 2 plus Dyno tune sports cat
Mst intake
Spacers
Fully adjustable coilovers
Uprated tyres (F1 asymmetric 6)
Ebc brakes
Plus the carbon tarty bits
The car is probably less fun and more shocking now, even in 1st I don't get wheelspin when booting it and the car just sticks
It's way easier to drive than stock,
The torque curve is less diesel like than before but it's lost a bit of that maniac charm for me, fancying a tyre shredding Jag or AMG next
I definitely wouldn't describe the 140i as standard looking or bland at all, it's far from that, plus the interior quality is the best in class by far but it does lack on tech those comments were unfair for sure.
I had one but tbh didnt rate the car just feel they arent that special especially inside, i bought it overlooking the interior for the drive, but just couldnt fall in love with it, i like this colour though 💪🏻
I’d be interested to know how your m140 compares to your e92 m3
In terms of maintenance, mods and daily use etc
Wow I am so excited for this build. Melbourne red is such a good color for these cars. Cant wait to see what you do with it! Will it be at invasion?
Love my 240i but the rear is sketchy even in a straight line, just respect it and dont take the piss if ygm
The traction control saves you before you even realise though, in sports + rhe rear is playful but predictable. If you're not used to it than I get why it puts people off, it's not confidence inspiring 🤣
@@jacktriggs6465tbh you don’t have to be very careful in sport+. Traction fully off is sketchy tho
@@MegaRandompoo that's my point, they aren't as bad as people make out
I like the colour
Thank you! 😎☺️
@@jackwalker355 yours is it bro
No mention of the notorious injector issue?
We’ve both only owned 2019 models, which have revised injectors from new so it’s not so much to be concerned about
This ‘problem’ is not common in Germany
I really like this car ! Maybe i'll buy one in a few years when i have the budget
Nice wrap
Thank you! 😁😁
Handy video as always Luke! Keep Smashing it G
The only negative experience I had was the harsh ride. It’s just far too firm. Makes daily driving unpleasant. Admittedly I didn’t spec the dynamic suspension. Just a heads up to any prospective buyers:)
I bought a rs3 over a m140i but I had to pay over 10k more for same year and mileage. These m140i’s are cheap for what they are.
100k Subs before the end of the year🥳🥳
I got the dreaded coolant loss on the small tank one min can be ok then it just goes, had compression test done and all good and no drops anywhere on floor etc so been told prob need new turbo as going through that and out exhaust... plus i actually prefer mine without the diff, what people dont understand is that if you leave traction on etc its very hard to get the back end out, but turn it off and thats where things get twitchy bum. All the videos i have seen where they have crashed you can tell they have traction fully off, they back side is just fish tailing everywhere 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Coolant cap leaking, common issues. Hence no drops, look around cap.
@olliemilsom8190 hi pal yeah that was the first thing I changed and still disappeared, since then had new turbo and now problem solved
Dont need apple play with b58
The DRLs contrast so well with the colour. They’re the right mix of white and yellow. Where did he get these?
Thank you! I got them from aliexpress believe it or not 😂
Fantastic! Im really wary of the "lemon yellow" description, but this looks much better, almost like the old style angel eyes. Do you have tint on the headlights by any chance?
@@brianmIRLnope no tint on the lights and the ones I bought were tagged lemon yellow too!
@@jackwalker355 thanks a lot mate, appreciate the info 👍🏻
I'm still dailying my old Golf R32. If i replace it for an M140i am I going to miss anything?
I had a mk 5 r32 Manual quite a few years ago but now have a m140i auto shadow edition and can't think of a single thing I miss apart from the sound, one of the best sounding cars out there to this day imo although the m140i sounds nice it doesn't have that gargle sound. Absolutely love my 140 tho 👌
@@mrjackson4052 this is slightly what I feared. Hard sound to equal this side of a V8. B58 is still very tempting though.
Love the mods on this car!
I think your next car should be a Audi RS3 in python yellow
Mine has broken. It had the cylinder 6 issue. Gutted as these are meant to be bulletproof. Do ur research they ain’t as bulletproof as they say!
Bullet proof doesn’t mean nothing can go wrong.
U miss yours dont you Brother?😅
A lot of the things that make these great you seem to see as downsides. Yes, an lsd is a must but digital dials suck, shouty exteriors suck and so does 4 wheel drive.
All things that make these a better package than your A45 and golf R
I have the xdrive version and I love how understated it looks compared to my ex GR Yaris. Btw the xdrive is definitely not as sketchy as the RWD, but it's actually quite tail happy being AWD compared to other AWDs that I've driven.
The biggest problem to me is the lack of ACC since you can't get it at all.
Acc?
@nickthegeek900 Adaptive Cruise Control
@@rextetronhere in the uk u can retrofit it
Might be biased working for toyota but id rather have a supra then a m140
Me too but it has only 2 seats and m140i is a lot cheaper
True, but you can get in an m140i for half the price and is a much better daily.
Don’t care about the BMW how’s the A45 going. Looking forward to the update on this. 👍
I want to get one but I feel like trying to keep up with something on a gti on uk roads will be impossible until it gets to straights, am I right? Even in sport where ur traction is kept strict will it still be hard
are the headlights' DRL modified to amber color or they just aged?
Just camera, in real life they’re blue.
Don’t worry😂😂
Yellow drl bulb upgrade from r44
Roughley speaking how much is a limited slip diff on one of these ? Great vid
I had mine supplied and fitted for £1700
@@1210mk5gfrom where
@@1210mk5gwhere from mate? I’ve been seeing quotes of 2.5-3k..
What do you guys thing about the comparison Golf 7.5R vs. BMW 140i?
I owned for the last 4 years a Golf 7R which I want to exchange for an Golf 7.5R or an BMW 140i. I will definitely both test driving but do you have clear pros and cons for each of those cars? Which one would you prefer if you could choose? I prefer the looks of the VW but the engine of the BMW..
Thank you in advance!
I owned both , the Golf R puts the power down perfectly (4wd) the M140i does not due to all power going to the back and it is very sketchy at times and you have to always be alert being in UK where roads are always wet. So that might put you off. So get one with LSD.
But the b58 engine wins all the way, it sounds and performs amazingly. Regardless what tyres you have you have to always be ready for the rear to surprise you.
I went from a 7.5R to an m140i, Had the R from new and done a few thousand miles but got bored of it after a couple months
The golfs have no personality they just drive themselves, The m140’s are 10 times more fun
Dodgy? yes, but if you know how to drive it will be no issue! Also find the 140 to be better on fuel even tho its a litre higher than the golf R 🙏
If you can test drive one then definitely give it a go first! Thats how i fell in love 🤣🤣
Good video. I’m glad these cars don’t have CarPlay,mood lighting etc,it’s just not that important. you should be focused on the drive experience not a flashy dash or dicking about with your phone If you want all that rubbish then buy something else.
I want one please how much I live Long Beach California USA
Old technology? remember how cheap they were, just drive and enjoy the faults
If you are going to get an M140i, I'd recommend the shadow edition, it might be more money than a standard spec but it gives it a more demeaning look
Literally no different besides darker lights
@@jacobkrogerbakerrlots more standard spec.
@@ScottPC Mines Non Shadow and has most desirable options
@@jacobkrogerbakerr just as well. Shadow it’s standard.
@@ScottPC pro nav isn’t standard
you are biased. when you had the m140 you never stopped praising it. now... No offense, but as someone who has been following your channel for some time, I started to notice this and it doesn't seem right to me. otherwise, congratulations for what you are doing.
Would you need an LSD on the m240i?
That is still one of the beet M140’s I’ve ever seen jeez
Buy one which already has some mods. It doesn’t get much better than a modded M140i. LSD and coilovers are the most important additions. You can also retrofit an Android Auto module.
Should never get a used cars with already mods
@@afegasdf76y123ewhy?
Insurance on these are crazy now.
The real legend is the n54, twin turbo,first real petrol turbo engine bimma made,with s lot tuning potential, comes forged as standard,but big up the new legend b58 is a don engine aswell.
B58 is better in everything bro. n54 lot of problems lot of upgrade needed for big power. In B58 1000€ and you have 500bhp.
@@AGM240iB58 doesn't sound as good
Attracts soo many bell ends hence why the insurance is high. Glad I’ve the 2 series cabrio insurance is only £300 a year.
curently there is a German guy running 900PS in his 1 series
bonnet fits bad exhausts are not level my ocd kills me
Never noticed anything with the exhausts but I need to readjust the front bumper it’s not the bonnet, it’s just so fidgety as it’s not an OEM part and it’s getting colder I cba to bother, it annoys me to fk too though!
The only thing that I don’t like the m140i , it does look like a fast car . No fancy seat nor brake clippers but under the hood it is fking monster
My quote for a 240i is 8k
M2 front bumper imo looks horrible,not a big fan of the colour either my that’s just (my) opinion,I’ll own a 140i at some point wen iv finished with my fully forged golf mk6 R & I’m yet to do the run in on that & that will be on the road in a few days once the meth kit has been put in,i was thinking the M240i but i think the M140i looks better
wrapped and different bumper, yet has the stock wheels........yeah, ok.
The m2 style front bumper just doesn’t work
Jesus Christ everywhere I look there’s a dead ting m140i video on UA-cam 😅😂😂
Everyone is obsessed with them who can’t afford a proper M car or an rs3 or Mercedes etc.
They are good for getting power out of them but they are just a cheap clapped out 1 series with a big engine. A 17 year old on minimum wage could afford 1. 😂🤣
Is this in the states
1 series are so boring and the interiors are awful can tell they are the bottom end of the BMW car list
The interiors are not awful, they’re boring there’s a difference, the bmw interiors are boring yet the best quality on the market, Mercedes is opposite, looks good but trash quality
Belta mate
why would you want a virtual cockpit?????? they're shit and not to mention if they go bad its at least 1000£ repair...
I honestly can't stand these cars.