Yep! No one had to get doxed to "Talk like Adults" Just two people who ended some beef, that was only their because of fans not being as respectful as they should of been
Yeah I think they needed the internet to back off so they could just be adults and focus on fixing the friendship. Must be hard when everyone overanalyses everything you do or say
The fans were the cause, but Pointcrow wasn't mature about it either. He completely ghosted Smallant, bad mouthed him on stream, got upset he wasn't messaging him, despite blocking him. I'm glad they worked it out, shows Pointcrow is a good guy.
@@Darknova67 well ofcourse. Pointcrow complained to smallant that he doesn't tell his fans to stop comparing each other. And then the friendship ended. It is as simple as that. Don't try to make pointcrow look like the bad guy. You're the exact reason why the drama between them happend.
@@ceshmate1953 I'm not sure you read that comment very well. it quite literally ends it off with him saying "shows pointcrow is a good guy". both parties handled it poorly at various times, and pointcrow wouldn't have even initiated the apology conversation if he hadn't felt some level of guilt over his actions.
I remember a while ago he talked about how 90% of all Twitter/content creator drama can be resolved in person, or at least in private, without having to make an awkward twitlonger "exposing" each other. This is a perfect example of that.
Except that the beef between them was PointCrow publicly denouncing Smant and levying a bunch of accusations about him being a terrible person over the course of a year. But yeah... this is the perfect example.
It is. When you're letting people online who will never see you as a friend determine how you feel about your friends, you're letting things get in the way. That stops when you talk man to man in private @@realNoMee
Smant and PointCrow can be compared all you want, but they are both hilarious and genuine content creators who enjoy what they do, and I love watching both of them. "Oh no, they both play similar games." Me too, that's why I watch them.
Plus I don't even think the main problem was pointing out that they were similar. They were both well aware and even leaned into it (which I like). I think the problem was the whole idea that one was "superior" to the other
And I took that personally. I mean our country took that personally. The whole nation is offended because you didn't offer me, the representative of millions of people, my favorite drink. Why would someone who doesn't care about me care about our nation. Let's cut ties with this ignorant person. 🙃
They kinda did, the president went over to the United States and spent a couple day with Biden or something and china is trying to rebuild its relations
@@jams_toast1 u know theres a war in the ukraine and china puts homosexuals and muslims into internment camps whilst trans people are officially undergoing "genocide like circumstances". yeah sure, let some old white men talk it out and keep everything going as it was before anyway, that sure helps millions of people whilst 20 billion dollars/year could end starvation globally, whilst hundreds of people and nations could singlehandedly do that and chose not to.
@@privatjetconnaisseur"but nah those people think differently from us so we shouldn't care about them" Bullsh*t people claim they're humanitarians, yet that stops as soon as someone ain't like them.
It’s the fact he apologised for things smallant didn’t think about. It means crow was thinking about it, it wasn’t spur of the moment or an off hand apology. It was fully a problem he dwelled on to come to a mature and respectful conclusion before speaking to him. Perfect
I am so happy they made up. I discovred both of them after the drama. I watched all their colab videos, I was waiting for more but then I found video describing their beef. Can't wait to see them doing something together, but this time live, not vod.
For the record, Pointcrow DID make a huge stink on twitter, called Smant terrible things, told him he wanted to talk but then also blocked him and then claimed Smant wasn't willing to talk... If you'd like to see the whole bag of worms you can look up Smant breaking down on stream because he's trying to please Pointcrow but they got the idea in their head Smant was somehow trying to purposefully convince people to attack him... He went full on conspiracy mode and nothing Smant tried behind the scenes seemed to do anything all the while Pointcrow was publicly bad mouthing him... there's a Anthony opens the episode saying "people might be shocked to see you two together here" I'm glad Pointcrow apologized and they worked everything out... but this is by no means a twitter-less resolution, haha
@@ninjablade2Actually a sane Smant/PCrow drama discusser. Thank you. Yes, it would've been nice if Smant told people to stop that stuff, but PCrow shouldn't have put the blame on Smant. At least they were both mature adults in the end.
it's still an announcement to their communities. Just because it's not happening that moment in real time doesn't mean it carries much less weight - hell those communities are ever more familiar with it due to the streams being turned into vods.@astroblaster6347
@astroblaster6347 There's a different between having a parasocial relationship and simply caring about people even if you don't know them personally. News flash: using the trending buzzwords doesn't make you sound smarter.
@astroblaster6347 No, that's not what a parasocial relationship is. A parasocial relationship is where one side actually puts in emotional energy, time, and effort into the "relationship" while the other side isn't even aware they exist. Simply caring about someone you don't know is just human nature and not at all the same thing.
Major respect for pointc4ow acknowledging his mistakes during the drama. It would have been easy to just never apologize and refuse to interact with smallant, but he chose to resolve the conflict
It's very nice to hear this. I'd love to see them do stuff like race emerald again. They're fun to watch race against one another, they're both pretty skilled.
I am genuinely so happy they made up, i’ve been watching both smallant and pointcrow (though mostly pcrow) for like 3 years now and i always loved seeing them make videos together. i am so glad they talked things over and resolved things in a very mature way
It’s insane that the issue basically stemmed from random idiots online just insulting them and comparing them to one another even though they themselves didn’t have anything against each other
To be fair one of the big inside jokes at the time was just relentlessly shitting on point crow for being awful not just like him being a smant knock off. Like ribbing among friends is one thing but hundreds if not thousands of people who are not reitearing that over and over messes with you. Its the whole rubber ross no longer being on game grumps despite there not really being drama or any like actively awful events.
It also really didn't help that this was also around the time where everyone jumped on the trend of "this speedrunner tried to challenge me" or "a youtuber thought hr can beat me in a race" etc. There was so much artificial rivalry
I believe the beef at first was a hundred percent in good fun. At some point tho pointcrow grew very bitter over the constant comparisons and it escalated till the blow up. Then he reached back out to ant and they made up
Yaaaayyy so happy to hear this! I had recently started watching both pointcrow and smallant at the same time when this all went down. It seemed such a bummer situation and I'm glad you two finally resolved it.
Im glad they are on good terms now. I love both their content, and it warms my heart that they worked out their differences. I wish that people would be more careful when using comparison.
Super cool to know things got sorted. You can tell from the older content they did that they had a lot of fun hanging out, and it's a shame things turned out how they did. But it speaks to both of them, their maturity especially, talking things out properly. Whether they end up doing anything together publicly again or not, it's heartening to hear they're on good terms.
I'm so happy that these two were able to work it out because I was a big fan of both and I liked both for their own individual reasons, and it made me sad to see such a cool friendship end over this kind of thing. Props to the two of then for being mature about the whole thing
I was about to say something about how "this is what true rivalry is meant to be", but I think it's in my best interest to just enjoy the moment and not say anything.
Love that for them. I think a lot of times people don't take the time and space to figure it out for themselves, but I think it's also clear neither of them were in the wrong. It's just something that got way out of hand by fans and so I'm glad they were able to work it out because their content together is so good and I look forward to more of it
For the record, the fans were the trigger of it ofc, but it was very clearly point crow publicly shitting on Smant and accusing him of basically purposefully making people hate him... As well then blocking Smant so that when he claimed Smant wouldn't settle it privately... it was because he literally couldn't... the reason Point crow here gave such a massive apology was because he was the one just openly attacking Smant, his character and his intentions I hate to bring down the mood and i'm glad they worked things out, but i also won't just sit around while people start trying to make a revisionist history out of what happened when i saw Smant breaking down because he literally was trying everything to appease Pointcrow, but nothing he did was ever enough to convince him he was on his side
@@ninjablade2 Holy shit thank you for being the only sane person in these comments. Reading these I have to believe it's just a load of people who have no idea what the beef even was and are just pretending they do so they can praise their streamer for being so mature. It's crazy.
@@realNoMee Haha, yeah i was honestly surprised to see how everyone was seemingly oblivious to who was throwing around the hate and who was silently just taking it until they couldn't take it anymore I do know well enough that on the internet it's far too easy to see a break down of event and have no concept of the time line, skewing your perspective (or even just assuming something based on what you remember hearing xD) I just hope that Smant doesn't have to go through that again
"neither of them did anything wrong" _insert tyler the creator_ *so that was a fucking lie* _meme here_ so we're just making shit up now? there is no way a person could be dense enough to not understand that pointcrow was WAY out of line on WAY too many occasions. i refuse to believe anyone could be that thick skulled 🙄
Bro, people need to butt tf out of content creator's business. I EQUALLY love PointCrow and SmallAnt as people and content creators, and the fact that this started from a bunch of fans is honestly kinda sad on our part. We need to be better people and not start drama just to start drama.
This makes me want to watch their vids more, I've only ever watched a couple things from either smallant or pointcrow but that level of maturity is refreshing, that's one of the things I loved about seeing Ian and Anthony working together again
It was also SO stupid and regrettable that they both had, in their chats, some absolute maidenless losers that would make it their MISSIONS to rile up the other person’s fans if they streamed at the same time. Just deliberately starting shit and doing a ton of “he said you did ____” It wasn’t their faults that they got deceived by some of that. There wasn’t clear communication during a stream about what the rules were for a gaming challenge, so when Pointcrow accidentally “broke one of the rules” it was because there was an honest misunderstanding that that wasn’t allowed. But you had people in chat IMMEDIATELY go into Smallant’s chat and spread lies that “OMG Eric cheated and he doesn’t care!” While at the same time you had people, once Smallant took notice saying “no, Pointcrow! That was NEVER a rule that Smallant said ahead of time. He made up a rule just to punish you cuz he was losing.” It was SO dumb. And they reacted in a way you can’t blame them for considering the misinformation they were being fed.
It's frustrating hearing the fans would hop into PointCrow's chat and talk down to him. Like he is doing his best. Why be scornful and taunting to someone who is also generating a huge fanbase and speedrun community? And he has put out a ton of content regarding the unique mods in Zelda games outside of that. He's a good dude, and I'm glad that Smant and Crow were able to work past this. Love them both soooo much! ❤
I always thought/heard that it was toxic fans that lead to the two avoiding each other at events and no longer collabing. Fans accusing each creator of stealing ideas from the other, when one would start a stream fans checking if the other was streaming and if so jumping in quickly to say something rude and then bail out, and stuff like that.
Toxic fans were the catalyst, the actual fight was PointCrow accusing Smant of maliciously wielding his audience to harm him among a barrage of other related claims of general evilness
I had no idea there was ever any beef! I have been following both of them for quite a while and recently watched a vid where they collabed together. They seemed like great friends in that video too. I'm really glad they worked it out. I love them both!
Legit started crying when he said they might start doing some content together again. Smallant was how I found Pointcrow and they always made my day. I’m so glad that they made up
@@as3609Bru. I was happy because that meant that their friendship was mending. I’m always happy to see people happy. Maybe don’t project onto other people?
I was so torn down when they had beef bc they were both my favourite streamers BY FAR and I was devastated when that all started. I was crying over the videos they had uploaded and when they finally got back on good terms Inwas so fucking unimaginably happy. It‘s insane what youtubers can mean to someone
Oh my gosh, I haven’t seen this till now. And it warms my heart to see these two guys (Smanner and Eric) back together as friends! I just loved watching them together and hates it when they broke off their friendship. To see them friends again makes me so happy
He says he wasn't very vocal about it, but I remember him saying very often to stop harassing PointCrow because they're friends and all. Am I misremembering or is he just being humble?
Pointcrow did quite a long video on what things didn't sit well with him when this originally happened. Don't know if it's still up, but there were some points where smallant definitely could've done a little better iirc. Maybe he just couldn't fully grasp how pointcrow felt about certain things. I don't blame him for that, though. I don't think that you can blame just one of the two for the situation. Both of them probably made some mistakes, there were misunderstandings and then this whole thing happened.
It absolutely is toxic fans as well as himself being humble. Both were just put in bad lighting from fans and didn’t know how to resolve it. Then the situation blew up after a long period of whiplash so they chose to separate.
PointCrow cheated in one of their last Pokemon races. SmallAnt drew attention to it in his video (mostly as a joke, since he still won anyway). PointCrow was then inundated with comments calling him a hack, and didn't take it well.
I was annoyed that Point Crow targeted Smallant for something he really couldn't control and publicly accused him of things that are not his fault or he didn't do multiple times, did not apologise and blamed Smallant for everything. If he apologizes then I guess he was able to take some time and think through things logically. That's such an amazing thing to be able to do. Changing views of things and events you're invested in are extremely difficult and being able to do that speaks volume about him. I respect that so much.
1) OMG ANTHONY PADILLA FROM SMOSH AND SMANT?! What is this collab?! 2) Why does Smant look dirty like he just worked on a car? 🤣 3) Aw! That’s nice! I didn’t know both of them made up! Good job on PointCrow.
Yeah, in my opinion they shouldn't be considered fans if the only thing they do is instigate shit for their sick amusement. Moral of the story: "WORDS HAVE POWER"
Small Ant wasn't exactly the pinnacle of maturity about it, either. PointCrow had talked to him privately about Small Ant playing into the whole "Point Crow is the inferior version of Small Ant" thing the fans had going, and Small Ant still did it. Making jokes at the expense of your friend when they've told you they don't find it funny and are actually takibg it rather personally is the *opposite* of maturity. Point Crow putting the issue on public blast wasn't mature or the best option, but it's not incomprehensible that someone would resort to that after attempts at private discussion failed to have any results, and Small Ant's viewers literally harrassed Point Crow over every single video that had a similar concept. It's really, really silly to pretend that the issue was unilaterally Point Crow's fault when Small Ant has admitted to having a fair amount of responsibility for the matter. Let alone to keep doing so when he's done so more than once, and spent the last 18 months trying to put a stop to his viewer's continuing to insult and demean someone he considers a friend- even 'as a joke.' Particularly when that kind of 'joke' was what caused the schism. If you can't even accept the statement of responsibility made by the streamer you're trying to defend, odds are you're exactly the sort of rabid viewer that he doesn’t want around. @@Danghole
It's so good to know that everything worked out eventually, I was so sad when I heard about their beef together because I really liked when they collab together
Smallant is the most competitive streamer I’ve seen, and that leads to him doing challanges like “me vs 3 other streamers” and he wins. This makes the other streamers look bad at the game and makes smallant look like he thinks he’s better than all of them combined and can farm views. The reality of the matter is that it’s just for fun. Smallant is that good at the games because he wins, but Pointcrow’s focus isn’t to become the best at the game like Smallant’s. His focus is on funnier, wacky content, real life content, modded games, etc. It’d be like if Muhammad Ali boxed against the top 4 of Creater Clash at once. Yes he’s gonna win, but that doesn’t make the losers youtube videos bad because of it, it’s not their focus
I think it's crazy that the biggest part of the drama was just some bad "fans." They didn't do anything to each other, they were just in the same corner of the internet and people decided to play with the emotions of two people that had the digital equivalent of a nextdoor neighbor friendship.
lowkey i am still upset that neither communities didn’t say “cut it out” or set a hard boundary. BUT! i am super happy they’re past that and they’re friends again. and they’ve talked it out. love pointcrow, learning to love small ant! i just know how much it weighed on eric for a long time… so.. i’ve been enjoying their collabs and im excited for more content featuring the both of them ❤
I don’t think we can deny how incredibly immature pointcrow was. But now that he has apologized, he deserves an apology from US. We didn’t do anything to help the situation and only made it worse for most of the time. Sorry Pointcrow, we all grew up now.
Someone in one of the commenrs on the full video was like "god pointcrow comes off as prideful and immature because he tried to make it equal fault" except this is literally just the exact thing that escalated this whole thing. Comparing the two and trying to make one better over the other lol
I'm glad to hear that they've been able to heal, it's always sad to see things like this happen to creators. I look forward to both of them growing in the future.
I am so incredibly happy that those two worked their differences out in a respectful and mature manner
I think it was more they worked out their similarities
In a respectful tanner
@@SamualN @nielsbishere you are both absolutely right
Yep! No one had to get doxed to "Talk like Adults" Just two people who ended some beef, that was only their because of fans not being as respectful as they should of been
Yeah I think they needed the internet to back off so they could just be adults and focus on fixing the friendship. Must be hard when everyone overanalyses everything you do or say
Crazy that drama that gets handled offline like adults normally goes well
Usually real life drama between youtubers and streamers ends well. Only the fake clout chasing drama happens in public
@@Sbudzand literally has like 20 plus ad filled videos made about said single drama topic 😂😂😂
@@Sbudzold team ten house shit lmao
Fr like no shady tweets or videos, no nothing. like it's so easy to just handle things like adults.
Yeah, CRAZY how that works
"Can we talk?" Uh oh
3 words that’ll either make or ruin someone’s day
I mean, at least it wasn’t, “We need to talk.”
@@brianhull2407*shudders*
Three words that shatter my mental stability
@@brianhull2407 *Christ.* Just got shivers from that
"Fans wanna know what happened", well ya see it was the fans
Haha yeah just a bunch of toxic keyboard warriors who never achieved something in their own lives bashing someone because they aren’t someone else.
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The fans were the cause, but Pointcrow wasn't mature about it either. He completely ghosted Smallant, bad mouthed him on stream, got upset he wasn't messaging him, despite blocking him. I'm glad they worked it out, shows Pointcrow is a good guy.
@@Darknova67 well ofcourse. Pointcrow complained to smallant that he doesn't tell his fans to stop comparing each other. And then the friendship ended. It is as simple as that. Don't try to make pointcrow look like the bad guy. You're the exact reason why the drama between them happend.
@@ceshmate1953 I'm not sure you read that comment very well. it quite literally ends it off with him saying "shows pointcrow is a good guy". both parties handled it poorly at various times, and pointcrow wouldn't have even initiated the apology conversation if he hadn't felt some level of guilt over his actions.
I remember a while ago he talked about how 90% of all Twitter/content creator drama can be resolved in person, or at least in private, without having to make an awkward twitlonger "exposing" each other. This is a perfect example of that.
@googleuser1422the context of this video
@googleuser1422what?
Except that the beef between them was PointCrow publicly denouncing Smant and levying a bunch of accusations about him being a terrible person over the course of a year. But yeah... this is the perfect example.
It is. When you're letting people online who will never see you as a friend determine how you feel about your friends, you're letting things get in the way. That stops when you talk man to man in private @@realNoMee
Smant and PointCrow can be compared all you want, but they are both hilarious and genuine content creators who enjoy what they do, and I love watching both of them. "Oh no, they both play similar games." Me too, that's why I watch them.
Plus I don't even think the main problem was pointing out that they were similar. They were both well aware and even leaned into it (which I like). I think the problem was the whole idea that one was "superior" to the other
@@googleuser1422 Fam it's like 3 sentences LMAO
@@googleuser1422lazy as fuck
@@googleuser1422 "I am not reading allat"
*responds to like 5 comments on this video*
@@googleuser1422Bro can't read a single (small) paragraph. Bro has never read a book and never will.
I can’t wait to see smant and pcrow start to content together.
They did before, but Crow stopped because of the haters
@@albatros4003 Bruh
@@tumultuousv what ?
@@albatros4003This video is going over them making up after all that.
@@yoshigespacho2803 yeah I watched the video
If only our world leaders could be as mature as these video game players 😂😭
And I took that personally. I mean our country took that personally. The whole nation is offended because you didn't offer me, the representative of millions of people, my favorite drink. Why would someone who doesn't care about me care about our nation. Let's cut ties with this ignorant person.
🙃
@@royceblack6752 little men in tall chairs
They kinda did, the president went over to the United States and spent a couple day with Biden or something and china is trying to rebuild its relations
@@jams_toast1 u know theres a war in the ukraine and china puts homosexuals and muslims into internment camps whilst trans people are officially undergoing "genocide like circumstances". yeah sure, let some old white men talk it out and keep everything going as it was before anyway, that sure helps millions of people whilst 20 billion dollars/year could end starvation globally, whilst hundreds of people and nations could singlehandedly do that and chose not to.
@@privatjetconnaisseur"but nah those people think differently from us so we shouldn't care about them"
Bullsh*t people claim they're humanitarians, yet that stops as soon as someone ain't like them.
It’s the fact he apologised for things smallant didn’t think about. It means crow was thinking about it, it wasn’t spur of the moment or an off hand apology. It was fully a problem he dwelled on to come to a mature and respectful conclusion before speaking to him. Perfect
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I am so happy they made up. I discovred both of them after the drama. I watched all their colab videos, I was waiting for more but then I found video describing their beef.
Can't wait to see them doing something together, but this time live, not vod.
Never saw any video about it, weird
Honestly he just seemed grating, like trying to compensate and be a caricature of what he was compared to
I love these two, so happy hearing how mature they are and how everything turned out
See what happens when you work through issues you have with people not on Twitter like adults? THEY GET RESOLVED.
For the record, Pointcrow DID make a huge stink on twitter, called Smant terrible things, told him he wanted to talk but then also blocked him and then claimed Smant wasn't willing to talk...
If you'd like to see the whole bag of worms you can look up Smant breaking down on stream because he's trying to please Pointcrow but they got the idea in their head Smant was somehow trying to purposefully convince people to attack him... He went full on conspiracy mode and nothing Smant tried behind the scenes seemed to do anything all the while Pointcrow was publicly bad mouthing him...
there's a Anthony opens the episode saying "people might be shocked to see you two together here"
I'm glad Pointcrow apologized and they worked everything out... but this is by no means a twitter-less resolution, haha
@@ninjablade2Actually a sane Smant/PCrow drama discusser. Thank you. Yes, it would've been nice if Smant told people to stop that stuff, but PCrow shouldn't have put the blame on Smant. At least they were both mature adults in the end.
They sat down together in this interview. That was crazy.
@astroblaster6347Isn't it just a normal human thing to be happy that two people you care about like each other?
it's still an announcement to their communities. Just because it's not happening that moment in real time doesn't mean it carries much less weight - hell those communities are ever more familiar with it due to the streams being turned into vods.@astroblaster6347
No, not when you don't know these people. It's unhealthy and delusional.@@ArceusFireForme
@astroblaster6347 There's a different between having a parasocial relationship and simply caring about people even if you don't know them personally.
News flash: using the trending buzzwords doesn't make you sound smarter.
@astroblaster6347 No, that's not what a parasocial relationship is. A parasocial relationship is where one side actually puts in emotional energy, time, and effort into the "relationship" while the other side isn't even aware they exist.
Simply caring about someone you don't know is just human nature and not at all the same thing.
So happy to see these guys become friends again, their videos together are always the best
Excited to see their next collab. I feel its coming very soon
The fact that people would tell you you're the worse version of another person like it's nothing is wild.
Major respect for pointc4ow acknowledging his mistakes during the drama. It would have been easy to just never apologize and refuse to interact with smallant, but he chose to resolve the conflict
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It's very nice to hear this. I'd love to see them do stuff like race emerald again. They're fun to watch race against one another, they're both pretty skilled.
LETS GOOOO! Glad they worked it out.
I am genuinely so happy they made up, i’ve been watching both smallant and pointcrow (though mostly pcrow) for like 3 years now and i always loved seeing them make videos together. i am so glad they talked things over and resolved things in a very mature way
I loved these two, especially when they did stuff together. Hope to see it again going forwards!
It’s insane that the issue basically stemmed from random idiots online just insulting them and comparing them to one another even though they themselves didn’t have anything against each other
Good for both of them. When things get heated like it did them, handling it offline on your own time was the best way it could have been resolved.
Oh I thought their beef was a joke this whole time. I'm glad to know it got resolved well.
It is always the chat that cause this kind of thing...
They're so great, I'm happy they talked things through and became friends, I love their content together ❤
To be fair one of the big inside jokes at the time was just relentlessly shitting on point crow for being awful not just like him being a smant knock off.
Like ribbing among friends is one thing but hundreds if not thousands of people who are not reitearing that over and over messes with you. Its the whole rubber ross no longer being on game grumps despite there not really being drama or any like actively awful events.
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It also really didn't help that this was also around the time where everyone jumped on the trend of "this speedrunner tried to challenge me" or "a youtuber thought hr can beat me in a race" etc.
There was so much artificial rivalry
Ngl i always assumed the pointcrow/smallant beef was a joke
Nooo 😂
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I didn’t even know there was beef🧍♀️
same, i thought they were goofing at least to a certain extent and didn't realize how much of it was real, glad to hear they worked it all out though!
I believe the beef at first was a hundred percent in good fun. At some point tho pointcrow grew very bitter over the constant comparisons and it escalated till the blow up. Then he reached back out to ant and they made up
“Fans wanna know what happened”
Yeah and thats most of the problem, the fans ARE what happened
Yaaaayyy so happy to hear this! I had recently started watching both pointcrow and smallant at the same time when this all went down. It seemed such a bummer situation and I'm glad you two finally resolved it.
The kinda beef we need to hear about. Well done you two!
I’m so happy to see this, this is exactly what I need to see, people talking things out and settling beef
Im so glad to hear this worked out!
Gosh I loved all of their collabs and was really sad that the fans caused all this drama. So happy they worked things out ❤
Im glad they are on good terms now. I love both their content, and it warms my heart that they worked out their differences. I wish that people would be more careful when using comparison.
Super cool to know things got sorted. You can tell from the older content they did that they had a lot of fun hanging out, and it's a shame things turned out how they did. But it speaks to both of them, their maturity especially, talking things out properly. Whether they end up doing anything together publicly again or not, it's heartening to hear they're on good terms.
Ahhh, I'm really happy they managed to make up. I'm so happy they can be friends again! ^_^
I'm so happy that these two were able to work it out because I was a big fan of both and I liked both for their own individual reasons, and it made me sad to see such a cool friendship end over this kind of thing.
Props to the two of then for being mature about the whole thing
Honestly, I like both of them and their content. I'm glad they made up and will potentially collaborate in the future.
Awww I remember seeing these two fighting Im happy to see things are better now
They both deserve good vibes all around
I was about to say something about how "this is what true rivalry is meant to be", but I think it's in my best interest to just enjoy the moment and not say anything.
Yeah problems happen on the road to success
-I was about to say
-Continues to say it
Lol
Two of my favorite content creators. Awesome to see them collaborating again
Love that for them. I think a lot of times people don't take the time and space to figure it out for themselves, but I think it's also clear neither of them were in the wrong. It's just something that got way out of hand by fans and so I'm glad they were able to work it out because their content together is so good and I look forward to more of it
For the record, the fans were the trigger of it ofc, but it was very clearly point crow publicly shitting on Smant and accusing him of basically purposefully making people hate him... As well then blocking Smant so that when he claimed Smant wouldn't settle it privately... it was because he literally couldn't...
the reason Point crow here gave such a massive apology was because he was the one just openly attacking Smant, his character and his intentions
I hate to bring down the mood and i'm glad they worked things out, but i also won't just sit around while people start trying to make a revisionist history out of what happened when i saw Smant breaking down because he literally was trying everything to appease Pointcrow, but nothing he did was ever enough to convince him he was on his side
@@ninjablade2 Holy shit thank you for being the only sane person in these comments. Reading these I have to believe it's just a load of people who have no idea what the beef even was and are just pretending they do so they can praise their streamer for being so mature. It's crazy.
@@realNoMee Haha, yeah i was honestly surprised to see how everyone was seemingly oblivious to who was throwing around the hate and who was silently just taking it until they couldn't take it anymore
I do know well enough that on the internet it's far too easy to see a break down of event and have no concept of the time line, skewing your perspective (or even just assuming something based on what you remember hearing xD)
I just hope that Smant doesn't have to go through that again
"neither of them did anything wrong" _insert tyler the creator_ *so that was a fucking lie* _meme here_
so we're just making shit up now? there is no way a person could be dense enough to not understand that pointcrow was WAY out of line on WAY too many occasions. i refuse to believe anyone could be that thick skulled 🙄
@blackcats_and_coffee7972 you mean most of these comments? Cause most of these comments are defending PC **hard**. It's weird.
Hope there will be joined content again, it was very fun
Bro, people need to butt tf out of content creator's business. I EQUALLY love PointCrow and SmallAnt as people and content creators, and the fact that this started from a bunch of fans is honestly kinda sad on our part. We need to be better people and not start drama just to start drama.
I remember when this drama first was a thing, it was really hard to hear and im so glad that theyve managed to work it out
Ah yes, the ant and the crow, a tale as old as time
A lesson about forgiveness
I’m so glad they resolved this drama and they are friends again
THE TIMELINE IS HEALING
So good to see Pointant and Smallcrow friends again
Me: never heard of this drama before
Also me: oh, that's kind of super nice that you guys fixed it like that.
Yaaaay I'm glad they worked things out. They have so much friend potential
Wait, grown adults apologise instead of just bitching about their feuds on social media for years on end? I'm shocked.
This makes me want to watch their vids more, I've only ever watched a couple things from either smallant or pointcrow but that level of maturity is refreshing, that's one of the things I loved about seeing Ian and Anthony working together again
It was also SO stupid and regrettable that they both had, in their chats, some absolute maidenless losers that would make it their MISSIONS to rile up the other person’s fans if they streamed at the same time. Just deliberately starting shit and doing a ton of “he said you did ____”
It wasn’t their faults that they got deceived by some of that. There wasn’t clear communication during a stream about what the rules were for a gaming challenge, so when Pointcrow accidentally “broke one of the rules” it was because there was an honest misunderstanding that that wasn’t allowed. But you had people in chat IMMEDIATELY go into Smallant’s chat and spread lies that “OMG Eric cheated and he doesn’t care!” While at the same time you had people, once Smallant took notice saying “no, Pointcrow! That was NEVER a rule that Smallant said ahead of time. He made up a rule just to punish you cuz he was losing.”
It was SO dumb. And they reacted in a way you can’t blame them for considering the misinformation they were being fed.
Happy that the two are playing together! I love watching them play together
It's frustrating hearing the fans would hop into PointCrow's chat and talk down to him. Like he is doing his best. Why be scornful and taunting to someone who is also generating a huge fanbase and speedrun community? And he has put out a ton of content regarding the unique mods in Zelda games outside of that. He's a good dude, and I'm glad that Smant and Crow were able to work past this. Love them both soooo much! ❤
this is so mature and gratifying to hear, I’m happy for em both
I always thought/heard that it was toxic fans that lead to the two avoiding each other at events and no longer collabing. Fans accusing each creator of stealing ideas from the other, when one would start a stream fans checking if the other was streaming and if so jumping in quickly to say something rude and then bail out, and stuff like that.
Toxic fans were the catalyst, the actual fight was PointCrow accusing Smant of maliciously wielding his audience to harm him among a barrage of other related claims of general evilness
I can't express how happy I am too hear they're talking again !!!
Best news I have heard so far this year. I missed these two being friends.
small ant will never have collectors anxiety and that's what sets them apart
Fans wanna know why this started when literally the cause of it’s happening are the fans themselves smh
I had no idea there was ever any beef! I have been following both of them for quite a while and recently watched a vid where they collabed together. They seemed like great friends in that video too. I'm really glad they worked it out. I love them both!
Legit started crying when he said they might start doing some content together again. Smallant was how I found Pointcrow and they always made my day. I’m so glad that they made up
You might want to work on your emotional control, that's some parasocial ish right there
@@as3609Bru. I was happy because that meant that their friendship was mending. I’m always happy to see people happy. Maybe don’t project onto other people?
I was so torn down when they had beef bc they were both my favourite streamers BY FAR and I was devastated when that all started. I was crying over the videos they had uploaded and when they finally got back on good terms Inwas so fucking unimaginably happy.
It‘s insane what youtubers can mean to someone
When the community is the problem:
Brings a tear to my eye. I'm so happy the boys are finally reunited
What was this clip taken from?
Also really good to see theme working out their differences privately and having it all go well in the end :)
Anthony Padilla's latest video which includes SmallAnt and PointCrow talking in the same room
Oh my gosh, I haven’t seen this till now. And it warms my heart to see these two guys (Smanner and Eric) back together as friends! I just loved watching them together and hates it when they broke off their friendship. To see them friends again makes me so happy
It takes a huge person to admit when they’ve done things wrong, I’m happy for both of them you can tell they genuinely want to be friends again
So happy to hear. Love them both and always adored the colabs, will love to see them back together
He says he wasn't very vocal about it, but I remember him saying very often to stop harassing PointCrow because they're friends and all. Am I misremembering or is he just being humble?
Smant always think he doesn't do good enough, he don't understand that some people will always be stupid and trie to tear people apart
Pointcrow did quite a long video on what things didn't sit well with him when this originally happened. Don't know if it's still up, but there were some points where smallant definitely could've done a little better iirc. Maybe he just couldn't fully grasp how pointcrow felt about certain things. I don't blame him for that, though. I don't think that you can blame just one of the two for the situation. Both of them probably made some mistakes, there were misunderstandings and then this whole thing happened.
@@SolaceV9still think its the toxic "fans" that said dumb sht in the first place
It absolutely is toxic fans as well as himself being humble. Both were just put in bad lighting from fans and didn’t know how to resolve it. Then the situation blew up after a long period of whiplash so they chose to separate.
PointCrow cheated in one of their last Pokemon races. SmallAnt drew attention to it in his video (mostly as a joke, since he still won anyway). PointCrow was then inundated with comments calling him a hack, and didn't take it well.
I loved their content man im glad they atleast are keeping an open mind to making content together again
I was annoyed that Point Crow targeted Smallant for something he really couldn't control and publicly accused him of things that are not his fault or he didn't do multiple times, did not apologise and blamed Smallant for everything. If he apologizes then I guess he was able to take some time and think through things logically. That's such an amazing thing to be able to do. Changing views of things and events you're invested in are extremely difficult and being able to do that speaks volume about him. I respect that so much.
Oh, that makes me happy! I absolutely love both of these creators, and I some of my favorite of EITHER of their videos is the ones they did together!
1) OMG ANTHONY PADILLA FROM SMOSH AND SMANT?! What is this collab?!
2) Why does Smant look dirty like he just worked on a car? 🤣
3) Aw! That’s nice! I didn’t know both of them made up! Good job on PointCrow.
SmallAnthony sharpened some pencils. His hands are all dirty 😂
@@BoardHistorical and wiped it on his forehead 🤣
He's been interviewing a lot of people lately
Thank god, I love these two so much and I was heartbroken when this originally happened, I’m glad they worked it out.
Fans need to stop doing this. It's so fucking toxic.
Yeah, in my opinion they shouldn't be considered fans if the only thing they do is instigate shit for their sick amusement. Moral of the story: "WORDS HAVE POWER"
I’m glad they worked things out, I love their content!
Soo..... it was the fan's fault they even had beef in the first place then?
Yep.
But it's always the creator's responsibility to deal with the problem
It was pointcrow’s immaturity
Small Ant wasn't exactly the pinnacle of maturity about it, either. PointCrow had talked to him privately about Small Ant playing into the whole "Point Crow is the inferior version of Small Ant" thing the fans had going, and Small Ant still did it.
Making jokes at the expense of your friend when they've told you they don't find it funny and are actually takibg it rather personally is the *opposite* of maturity.
Point Crow putting the issue on public blast wasn't mature or the best option, but it's not incomprehensible that someone would resort to that after attempts at private discussion failed to have any results, and Small Ant's viewers literally harrassed Point Crow over every single video that had a similar concept.
It's really, really silly to pretend that the issue was unilaterally Point Crow's fault when Small Ant has admitted to having a fair amount of responsibility for the matter. Let alone to keep doing so when he's done so more than once, and spent the last 18 months trying to put a stop to his viewer's continuing to insult and demean someone he considers a friend- even 'as a joke.' Particularly when that kind of 'joke' was what caused the schism.
If you can't even accept the statement of responsibility made by the streamer you're trying to defend, odds are you're exactly the sort of rabid viewer that he doesn’t want around. @@Danghole
@@alchemysaga3745 Insane you think I’d read all that. Get a job
It's so good to know that everything worked out eventually, I was so sad when I heard about their beef together because I really liked when they collab together
Smallant is the most competitive streamer I’ve seen, and that leads to him doing challanges like “me vs 3 other streamers” and he wins. This makes the other streamers look bad at the game and makes smallant look like he thinks he’s better than all of them combined and can farm views. The reality of the matter is that it’s just for fun. Smallant is that good at the games because he wins, but Pointcrow’s focus isn’t to become the best at the game like Smallant’s. His focus is on funnier, wacky content, real life content, modded games, etc. It’d be like if Muhammad Ali boxed against the top 4 of Creater Clash at once. Yes he’s gonna win, but that doesn’t make the losers youtube videos bad because of it, it’s not their focus
i'm glad they talked it out and resolved it
And then they kiss 👄
I think both of them are awesome and glad they resolved any beef that may have stood between them.
I think it's crazy that the biggest part of the drama was just some bad "fans." They didn't do anything to each other, they were just in the same corner of the internet and people decided to play with the emotions of two people that had the digital equivalent of a nextdoor neighbor friendship.
Was anyone else there when smant cried live on stream? Im so glad they sorted this all out ❤
Pointcrow also works so hard, I’m glad he’s finally getting his deserved recognition
lowkey i am still upset that neither communities didn’t say “cut it out” or set a hard boundary. BUT! i am super happy they’re past that and they’re friends again. and they’ve talked it out. love pointcrow, learning to love small ant! i just know how much it weighed on eric for a long time… so..
i’ve been enjoying their collabs and im excited for more content featuring the both of them ❤
Pointcrow is honestly super mean on live streams and clearly cannot take jokes. He is super soft. Smallant actually bites back.
I'm beyond happy that they worked it out! It was really upsetting hearing they were at ends
I don’t think we can deny how incredibly immature pointcrow was.
But now that he has apologized, he deserves an apology from US. We didn’t do anything to help the situation and only made it worse for most of the time.
Sorry Pointcrow, we all grew up now.
Actually heartwarming to see that these two settled their issues like adults instead of just screaming at each other over the internet.
This is the resolution to a fight that began two years ago with PointCrow screaming at him over the internet
Ngl watching what happened live I feel like pointcrow was over reacting
Sure there were idiots making fun of him but come on, be a man and ignore them
im so glad these two have made up💜 such good streamers
they could have milked this drama for months and months, but it's good that they both value their humanity more than capitalism. Respect.
Their content isn't heavily focused on drama anyway
I enjoy watching both of their content and i feel like content with both of them together would work really well
Someone in one of the commenrs on the full video was like "god pointcrow comes off as prideful and immature because he tried to make it equal fault" except this is literally just the exact thing that escalated this whole thing. Comparing the two and trying to make one better over the other lol
I'm glad to hear that they've been able to heal, it's always sad to see things like this happen to creators. I look forward to both of them growing in the future.