god i used to be SUCH a huge jacksepticeye fan when letsplays were huge, its such a delight seeing him with y'all and listening to him talk about such interesting stuff!!!
This is why I'm a fan of Sean. He willingly owns that he's fucked up in the past and he talks about it, he also has learned from his mistakes and has grown into a fantastic role model. Never watched this channel before but these guys are great. Really glad I'm here.
Wasn't expecting this one to smack me with the feels!! Jordan, my mom was just diagnosed with dementia as a result of having strokes as well. It's been difficult. Even more so on my younger brothers, because they've been her primary caregivers since I live in another state halfway across the US. We're 24 and 26 respectively, so being so young and having to decide on things like assisted living and home care for her has been heart wrenching and incredibly difficult. Anyway I really appreciate you talking about it, as sad as it is I'm glad to feel like I'm not the only one dealing with this kind of stuff.
You both are so young, and I cant imagine having to make such a big decision and stepping into a role with so much responsibility so young. I can only wish you well and hope you and your brothers can help each other the best you can. Never feel like you can't rely on others to help! My aunt was diagnosed just at the tail-end of her fourties, and it's devastating to watch, especially when she herself is so young, but sometimes you just need to turn away for a bit to collect yourself. I hope you're able to take care of yourself as well as your mom; all the best to you and your family 💕
As a fellow member of the ADHD/Anxiety/Depression gauntlet club, I just wanted to say how much I appreciate you all talking about your mental health. It's honestly so comforting to have people I admire who also deal with the same stuff that I do. I've been really going through it for almost a year now, and this podcast has been a real safe haven for me. (I would say how funny it is that so many of your friends/guests also have adhd but we do genuinely tend to attract each other, lol.) Obviously I'd rather that you weren't struggling at all! But I really appreciate the candidness, it makes me feel very seen and makes my experiences much less isolating ❤️
Hearing Sean talk about his mental health journey has also made me think that like,, maybe I should try therapy again? I had a few really bad experiences with therapists (last one was particularly rough) and I kind of swore it off for myself. But idk, maybe one day I can actually meet someone who can help? I do a decent enough job on my own, but it's exhausting to be your own therapists, and I know there's blind spots I have to be missing. I know therapy is super helpful, don't get me wrong, I just didn't find much success with it. But maybe it's time to try again.
@@ThatCrazyBookWyrmI'm in a similar spot rn and just wanted to say, I hear ya, I feel ya. It's so tiring trying to find a therapist that fits, and having bad experiences can really knock you back. We'll get there 👍
"You're the first love of your life" I like that quote. It makes me want to care for myself which is always hard. Thank you 3 for being so open about mental health. It helps destigmatize it that much more.
that unfortunately validates why i never wanted to be on tumblr lol because i hate reddit and don't want to be around wherever they're going next. godspeed to tumblr users who have to deal with them
The way you guys talk about mental health and are so vulnerable about the things you've gone through is so important and so valuable, and takes so much courage. It is so genuinely appreciated.
stoicism goes dangerously through the territory of "i am only responsible for how i react to what others do" and uses such excuses towards bigotry. with a thought of only feeling responsible for yourself, it can lead to not seeing how you can become responsible for others, even unintentionally. it tends to give the willful ignorant a voice that says "i dont get it so i dont care"
Yeah I've personally only seen stoicism only used by people who want to impress on others there's no such thing as racism or sexism or transphobia. Like hardline individualists. Where as for me, learning to exist within a society and act as a healthy member of any group, reparenting has been much more useful to process emotions and let go of primary anxieties.
I feel stoicism is ptsd/trauma before psychology gave it a term. And I can see lots of parallels like getting withdrawn when you "lose control of the outside world and only stay within your bubble"
Stoicism is a good building block for learning about psychology/philosophy but not really actualising therapy for yourself. There are definitely quotes by Marcus Aurelius that are profound, especially for the time they were written. But they were also in their infancy of understanding. I have the book Meditations by him, it's very interesting. There's also a lot of nonsense in there because of the time it was written that if you can't differentiate for yourself can easily lead you down an Andrew Tate path.
The mention of 13 reasons why sent me. I read the book in high school and the show absolutely destroyed the story. Them choosing to switch the way the sewer slide happened to be more graphic just to have shock value took away from those final moments as they’re described in the book. The choice to make up a whole second season based off a school shooter that didn’t happen in the book was trash. They 100% made that show with intent to romanticize self harm and violent behavior
jack talking about how ppl destroyed his boisterous personality by constantly criticizing him for it and jarvis looking at the camera when he says "i know what you mean" like forreal (also cause i'm high as balls) spoke directly to me as a fellow adhd haver it's honestly almost funny how every other adhd kid experienced that but funny in the wow that's crazy way
Jarvis talking about his mom made me want to cry I need to tell my mom I love her even more On a joking note Stoicism is all fun and games until you start crying unprovoked because you have no emotional regulation “You can only control how you react” my ass
didnt expect that they would talk abt 13 reasons why but i knew the show would be a horrible disaster because i had read the book in middle school while i was suicidal and it absolutely made me so much worse because it constantly reinforces why most people commit suicide especially at that age, a desire to be seen and heard, so the books whole plot being all of these people being forced to see and hear her was like wow if she could do it so can i
Honestly man i really appreciate this podcast because of your openness with mental health, its validating and feels nice to see people so willing to talk about it
Man it's always so just... validating hearing y'all talk about adhd, because it's just exactly how life has been like for me and how I've always struggled. It just is nice to hear that I'm not the only one.
its something about jeffery epstein 😭 Its a rlly horrendous quote if u find a video about the idol episode 3 they will for sure say the whole quote in there
@emelybatista4373 ew I can already tell the vibes of what that is and it's completely pointless to even know honestly pervert crap is just pervert crap it doesn't even mean anything
@emelybatista4373 I'm so glad people are hating the idol and Sam Levinson now I felt like I was crazy being the only one who didn't think he was great
i believe he’s talking about the line where they say “i’m f****** sh****** more bl**d than a kid at epst*in island” lots of censors to avoid getting banned
Gotta say ive never interacted w jacksepticeye's content beyond maybe overhearing a lets play my friends younger sister was watching, but wow what a great episode! Such an insightful dude, love u guys
Honestly, this is possibly one of the best podcasts I've listened too. I can not tell you how much listening to you guys honestly talk about your mental health and struggles means. As another 30-something professional who grew up with UA-cam, it means the world for you guys to talk about things I struggle with as well. It really makes me feel like I'm not alone. You always know that other people struggle, but it really helps when people you grew up watching share their own experiences. The episode is fantastic. You guys are funny, relatable, and genuine. I can't believe I haven't listened to this podcast before. Thanks guys! ❤❤
It's such a scary time in America for trans people like myself right now, and hearing you guys just casually being supportive in conversation means so much. Having a platform as big as you guys do and deciding to use it in such a positive way gives me so much hope. Thanks Jarvis, Jordan, and Sean. You guys are seriously making the world a better place with your content.
Jordan talking about working through the illusion that your parent could fix everything killed me. I’m 29 and I lost my mom in 2021. She was my hero and was JUST like that, she always had an answer, always knew who to call or what needed done, and in the time she’s been gone there have been so many situations where I find myself desperately wishing she was here and could tell me what to do. Then I realize that obviously she wasn’t magic, just solution oriented and good at faking it until she made it, and maybe I can learn to be that way too.
This was such a fantastic episode of my favorite podcast. Thanks for sharing this, dudes. My favorite part is around 1:30:00, when Sean mentions that his therapist suggested to him the idea that we all have more than one “age” inside us, a metaphorical adult age and a metaphorical child age. Sean asks Jordan and Jarvis to guess the ages of each others’ inner child. It is so meaningful to me as a consumer of this podcast to see that concept normalized. Through my therapy journey, I’ve spent several years learning about and trying to feel comfortable with this idea of an inner child. I feel ashamed of it. It’s deeply comforting to hear a group of dudes discuss it openly within the context of mental health, and engage in a conversation about it. I’m so grateful for the vulnerability that you three have chosen to share not only with each other but also with everyone who listens to this episode. This meant a lot to me. I truly believe that you are accomplishing exactly what you set out to accomplish with this podcast, and this episode is a solid example of that.
Y'all's voices are so lovely and relaxing it has taken me four times to listen to this whole thing because I kept falling asleep. And I am so glad I did. Your vulnerability and presence with each other is really, truly, healing and beautiful to watch. Thank you for always being you, Jarvis (especially because I've been watching your stuff for years).
There is something very healing to see three men talking about why shit like 13 Reasons Why is harmful and garbage. I have PTSD from SA and a friend I trusted told me to watch it and I ended up having to deal with fairly severe panic attacks from it - alongside being told that I'm being 'too sensitive' and 'too dramatic' by people in my life.
The mental health shit is so real - as a teenager who's been suicidal for long periods of time, shows that romanticise it make me not want to get help. They made me feel like being suicidal was like the end goal. Not cool.
i don't usually comment on podcast episodes, but i really enjoyed this. I think jarvis and jordan are really great hosts but jarvis in particular shines whenever there's a guest
as someone who enjoys jack and has been a big part of my life, its always nice for him to be open. i struggle with mental health, and the past couple of years, i have been able to learn to love and be happy with myself. sure i have my down days, but overall, im happy and have learnt to be happy with who i am and love me for me a great episode boyz, it was so fun to see Sean on here
You can really tell who has actually been depressed before vs people who have just been sad at times. If I watched 13 reasons why during my serious depressed period as a young teen I don’t know what I would have done. I never tried or got close to doing it, but the thought was constantly in my head for a while. So for me part of the idea of suicide was to stick it to people who are making me suffer. Make sure they know they did this. 13 reasons why just shows you how much you can impact people if you go ahead and do it. How are people allowed to make these things? It’s just disgusting and very ignorant.
1:24:00 thats Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria very common ADHD thing, when you perceive rejection and your brain just shuts tf down and youre absolutely DEVASTATED even when it's smth small
as someone who lived through the Phan and 1direction/Larry yeah i am never going to ship real people like No we're not doing that shit it ruins friendships and harms people's mental health and creates a real space of fear and stress for people like, as much as i would Love to see my faves in happy relationships and being cute, im not gonna sit around writing ff about it or telling them to their faces, ew, creepy, weird
The show 13 reasons why literally CHANGED the method of s**cide from the book (in which she used medication) to something WAY more graphic on purpose for the show. Also, she used an unrealistic method which rarely leads to actual death. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing. (not sure if I shoulda censored that word but I did just to be safe lol)
not to sound parasocial or anything, but these three guys have genuinely helped me through so much. it’s so nice hearing men open up about their emotions and normalize discussions of mental health. as a trans man, it’s been hard for me to accept the parts of my personality that society deems “feminine” or “unmanly,” such and my sensitivity, struggles with mental health, or even just some of my interests. these guys are nothing but pure, kind, and good souls. the world needs more Seáns, Jarvis’, and Jordans
the comment jarvis is talking about with the idol is “'I'm sh-tting more blood than a kid at epstein's island'- an actual quote said by someone in the show. In context of the episode he said it slighly while something bad happens in jocelyns career. Nobody pays mind to it and its so uneeded
Never seen you guys until seeing this episode and the emotional intelligence and just quenching conversation was amazing. Loved this 🥰 Will be checking out more of you guys!!
Thank you 3 so much for talking about mental health so openly. As someone struggling with mental health myself, I think it's so important that people, especially people with a platform as big as all of you combined, keep talking about it. Thank you so much for this episode!!
I know nobody cares but I'm putting this here in case I ever come back to it. I'd say my kid age is 11 or 12 and my adult age is 29 or 39 (specifically for the thing of constantly fearing getting older because Passage Of Time and Productivity etc, but also striving for maturity and respect at the same time)
The Austin Powers segment was actually super interesting to hear you guys talk about, because it was extremely reminiscent of ideas of complicity and symbolic protest given by Thomas E. Hill (a modern philosopher). He uses the idea of being at a business dinner with a racist boss and client and what you are morally obligated to do as well as the rationale in choosing to speak up, an instance he would call symbolic protest. I just thought it was super cool you were touching on important philosophical questions without even trying :)
As someone who studies family systems and attachment, it's soooo great to see them talking about how their childhood experiences impacted how they behave as adults and how they're working on it. Because, as Jarvis brought up with CBT, all those roles like "the one who tried to solve the problems" "the one who used humor" etc have names and research as well. Both therapy and academic research can be super inaccessible, but having creators talking in an informed way gets this information to more people.
When they said Sean had a gauntlet after he listed his diagnosises I almost cackled. I have have a similar situation and I like to says I have a Costcos list worth of usually unfortunate brain shenanigans.
Love Jarvis's book rec. CBT changed my life so much. I didn't believe I could actually change my thoughts but over time with practice, I really do think differently now and have a lot more inner peace.
swell entertainment did a really interesting video on temu and even mentioned emailing back several of their promotional emails just to see what they would offer if anyone wants to see more about that
Re: temu. My mum told me about a decade ago, if an advert ever strongly implies something without actually saying that thing, they do the opposite of that thing. At the time the advert in question was for a herbicide for your lawn. The advert showed lots of happy dancing CGI animals, but if you looked in the small print it was like Hella toxic to all animal life. So when *that* TEMU advert had the scene with a happy, smiling employee handing a package to a customer in a clean, quiet warehouse my immediate thought was "oh, so they treat their warehouse/manufacturing staff like shit, right?" And i think it's now turned out they have 'questionably sourced labour' in their supply chain?
I'm Canadian and I went to London earlier this year and everytime some one asked "you alright", it caught me so off guard. It felt like a question that should've been answered with more than one word lol
To say my partner screamed listening to this when you mentioned flash forward! I still do not remember but you've validated her mentioning it whenever we talk lost!!
When Sean was asking about Jordan and Jarvis' kid and adult ages, in my head I went "Jordan would be like 13, and Jarvis would like like 15 and 32" I've watched too many of their videos lmao
As soon as the female perspective was purposefully completely decentered/removed on The Idol is when you know the point was gonna be missed. Sam Levinson after all, loooves profiting of depicting women and girls in severe pain and distress (someone check his hard drive).
I'm so glad Jarvis called out Temu lol I've seen so many people fall for it and it's driving me nuts 😂 if you don't support shein and wish, don't support temu 🙏🏼 Also...13 reasons why. Thank you for saying that bc I've always been horrified that they thought it was okay to make and I can't believe people think it's fine
I listened to this on Spotify but had to come to UA-cam because I really wanted to comment. Two things: 1. I'm a PhD student in literature and I both agree and disagree with your point about interpreting narrative media. I think authorial intentions do matter (we cannot ignore that the goblins in Harry Potter are both intentionally problematically racist Jewish stereotypes), but I also think that once a piece of media comes into existence it starts to belong to the reader. My research focuses on adaptation, so I think the interesting part of interpretation is in that tension between the authorial intention and what the audience interprets it to mean. So sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, but only if you want it to be! 2. The book Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents changed my life! Check it out if the title sounds like it describes you. I love the podcast! Thanks for such an insightful conversation.
watching while cutting fabric and my head whipped around when you mentioned From. I haven't seen it because it's a little too Horror for me, but I have been an extra on season two and it was Very Fun, definitely my favourite set to be on.
I watched Twin Peaks season 1,2, Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me, and Twin Peaks: The Return and I read both Twin Peaks books during the lockdowns in 2020. I am glad I took in all of that content, but that was a lot.
really appreciated this episode and everything they went into, a lot of really important topics and it was really nice to hear their perspectives and experiences
an Austin Powers impersonator that's bigoted and insists on singing? I think you guys might've found a really method David Brent impersonator on accident that's so dedicated to impersonating David Brent that he claims to be an Austin Powers impersonator
the other day someone asked me if I’d watched From & I didn’t say anything because I hadn’t heard of it & I thought I would ask what it was it would be an Updog joke like “from your mom’s house” or “no, not what’s from, WHERE from”
I feel like yellowjackets really appeals to women in a way that its like a glimpse into like lord of the flies but sisterhood idk, I'm still a teenager so i may just like it bc it represents teenagers.
i started watching Mikes Mics LOST recap video but then decided that the show actually sounded interesting like 30 minutes into that video. Now I'm starting it with my mom because she loves shows like that. Also remebered that you guys love LOST and talk so highly of it that I figured it must be worth watching.
When 13 reasons was released almost everyone in my highschool watched it. After the finale came out I heard some of the girls talking about it, and one of the girls was basically yelling that Hannah asked for it, because she didn't say no. How she would have fought back and hit him etc. I watched it after hearing this and honestly, the show was whatever, but whenever I hear about this show I think about that. Anyways
Thanks for having me on boyz! I had a great time :)
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it was super cool to see you on here man
omg jacksepticeye hi
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HELL YEAHHHHHHH
This episode is like having your childhood friends meet your college group.
And they get along! 😮😅😊
I couldn't find the words to describe how this collab felt, and this hit the nail on the head!!
ABSOLUTELY UNEXPECTED AND SO INCREDIBLE
THE WORLDS HAVE INDEED COLLIDED IN SUCH AN AMAZING WAY
Straight up thought i had a stroke holy shit
IKRR
i am so happy rn
I love that whenever a “British Joke” comes up, Jarvis starts laughing a couple seconds late and looks around in fear.
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god i used to be SUCH a huge jacksepticeye fan when letsplays were huge, its such a delight seeing him with y'all and listening to him talk about such interesting stuff!!!
His newer stuff is really good! he's been playing Nancy Drew with his gf on her channel and it's a DELIGHT
@@brittanybarkhousejackson4934i love her channel! her totk playthrough has been a nice comfort series :)
@@gargles5270 this makes me want to see Gab on the Sad Boyz podcast now!
@@isabelrose3161 that would be so cool. I don't often get to catch her streams where she just chats. I'd love to have some of that in podcast form.
@@ontheturningaway so, why are you here ?
love sad boys jordan wasnt kidding guest list is crazy these last 2 weeks
This is why I'm a fan of Sean. He willingly owns that he's fucked up in the past and he talks about it, he also has learned from his mistakes and has grown into a fantastic role model. Never watched this channel before but these guys are great. Really glad I'm here.
Wasn't expecting this one to smack me with the feels!! Jordan, my mom was just diagnosed with dementia as a result of having strokes as well. It's been difficult. Even more so on my younger brothers, because they've been her primary caregivers since I live in another state halfway across the US. We're 24 and 26 respectively, so being so young and having to decide on things like assisted living and home care for her has been heart wrenching and incredibly difficult. Anyway I really appreciate you talking about it, as sad as it is I'm glad to feel like I'm not the only one dealing with this kind of stuff.
You both are so young, and I cant imagine having to make such a big decision and stepping into a role with so much responsibility so young. I can only wish you well and hope you and your brothers can help each other the best you can. Never feel like you can't rely on others to help! My aunt was diagnosed just at the tail-end of her fourties, and it's devastating to watch, especially when she herself is so young, but sometimes you just need to turn away for a bit to collect yourself. I hope you're able to take care of yourself as well as your mom; all the best to you and your family 💕
Same here (I’m 26, only child/caregiver, mom is 61). We’re not alone and we can make it through this 💕
I’m sorry you guys are having to deal with that. That’s got to be so difficult
Sending so much love to you & your family 💕
As a fellow member of the ADHD/Anxiety/Depression gauntlet club, I just wanted to say how much I appreciate you all talking about your mental health. It's honestly so comforting to have people I admire who also deal with the same stuff that I do. I've been really going through it for almost a year now, and this podcast has been a real safe haven for me. (I would say how funny it is that so many of your friends/guests also have adhd but we do genuinely tend to attract each other, lol.)
Obviously I'd rather that you weren't struggling at all! But I really appreciate the candidness, it makes me feel very seen and makes my experiences much less isolating ❤️
Hearing Sean talk about his mental health journey has also made me think that like,, maybe I should try therapy again? I had a few really bad experiences with therapists (last one was particularly rough) and I kind of swore it off for myself. But idk, maybe one day I can actually meet someone who can help? I do a decent enough job on my own, but it's exhausting to be your own therapists, and I know there's blind spots I have to be missing. I know therapy is super helpful, don't get me wrong, I just didn't find much success with it. But maybe it's time to try again.
@@ThatCrazyBookWyrmI'm in a similar spot rn and just wanted to say, I hear ya, I feel ya. It's so tiring trying to find a therapist that fits, and having bad experiences can really knock you back. We'll get there 👍
I feel that too. I looked up the symptoms for adhd and I fit the description so I can relate to you.
"You're the first love of your life" I like that quote. It makes me want to care for myself which is always hard. Thank you 3 for being so open about mental health. It helps destigmatize it that much more.
the jarvis lore made me want to cry
“tumblr’s lack of relevance as a platform” is so funny cause tumblr is where a lot of the redditor’s on strike are at rn, so tumblr is very busy atm
that unfortunately validates why i never wanted to be on tumblr lol because i hate reddit and don't want to be around wherever they're going next. godspeed to tumblr users who have to deal with them
@@Rambertaas a Tumblr user a lot of reddit users I've seen have been rlly chill ppl
The way you guys talk about mental health and are so vulnerable about the things you've gone through is so important and so valuable, and takes so much courage. It is so genuinely appreciated.
stoicism goes dangerously through the territory of "i am only responsible for how i react to what others do" and uses such excuses towards bigotry. with a thought of only feeling responsible for yourself, it can lead to not seeing how you can become responsible for others, even unintentionally. it tends to give the willful ignorant a voice that says "i dont get it so i dont care"
Yeah I've personally only seen stoicism only used by people who want to impress on others there's no such thing as racism or sexism or transphobia. Like hardline individualists. Where as for me, learning to exist within a society and act as a healthy member of any group, reparenting has been much more useful to process emotions and let go of primary anxieties.
I feel stoicism is ptsd/trauma before psychology gave it a term. And I can see lots of parallels like getting withdrawn when you "lose control of the outside world and only stay within your bubble"
A quick google search shows you're gay and have no idea what you're talking about
Which ironically historically stoicism practitioners believed in “citizens of the world” or everyone being equal and social justice
Stoicism is a good building block for learning about psychology/philosophy but not really actualising therapy for yourself. There are definitely quotes by Marcus Aurelius that are profound, especially for the time they were written. But they were also in their infancy of understanding. I have the book Meditations by him, it's very interesting. There's also a lot of nonsense in there because of the time it was written that if you can't differentiate for yourself can easily lead you down an Andrew Tate path.
When Jack said “you are the first love of your life” 😢❤ idk why that hit me so hard
The mention of 13 reasons why sent me. I read the book in high school and the show absolutely destroyed the story. Them choosing to switch the way the sewer slide happened to be more graphic just to have shock value took away from those final moments as they’re described in the book. The choice to make up a whole second season based off a school shooter that didn’t happen in the book was trash. They 100% made that show with intent to romanticize self harm and violent behavior
seeing the guy I basically grew up watching collabing with one of my favorite channels now is so cool to see :>
jack talking about how ppl destroyed his boisterous personality by constantly criticizing him for it and jarvis looking at the camera when he says "i know what you mean" like forreal (also cause i'm high as balls) spoke directly to me as a fellow adhd haver it's honestly almost funny how every other adhd kid experienced that but funny in the wow that's crazy way
Really loved how the conversation just kept flowing with this one, it could have gone on even longer for me
And yet the best Irish youtuber.
The 13 Reasons book was ACTUALLY a good conversation starter. I feel so bad that Jay had his book fucking eviscerated by the production team.
Wasn’t he a sexual abuser though
I read the book and thought the concept itself gives an icky feeling
Having to endure a party with Aussie Powers should be classed as a method of torture.
BLESS YOU JARVIS FOR RSS PATREON PODCASTS 😭🙏🏻 the Patreon mobile app player sucks, I’m so upset you didn’t get the chance to improve it.
patreon app hurts my spirit 😢
sean is such a sweet genuine person i love him
you guys talking about motivation and wanting other people's energies was the most real thing i've ever felt from content creators, thank you
Jarvis talking about his mom made me want to cry
I need to tell my mom I love her even more
On a joking note
Stoicism is all fun and games until you start crying unprovoked because you have no emotional regulation
“You can only control how you react” my ass
didnt expect that they would talk abt 13 reasons why but i knew the show would be a horrible disaster because i had read the book in middle school while i was suicidal and it absolutely made me so much worse because it constantly reinforces why most people commit suicide especially at that age, a desire to be seen and heard, so the books whole plot being all of these people being forced to see and hear her was like wow if she could do it so can i
Honestly man i really appreciate this podcast because of your openness with mental health, its validating and feels nice to see people so willing to talk about it
Man it's always so just... validating hearing y'all talk about adhd, because it's just exactly how life has been like for me and how I've always struggled. It just is nice to hear that I'm not the only one.
Not knowing the quote Jarvis mentioned about the idol is going to KILL ME I need to know what it is point me in the right direction PLEASE
its something about jeffery epstein 😭 Its a rlly horrendous quote if u find a video about the idol episode 3 they will for sure say the whole quote in there
@emelybatista4373 ew I can already tell the vibes of what that is and it's completely pointless to even know honestly pervert crap is just pervert crap it doesn't even mean anything
@emelybatista4373 I'm so glad people are hating the idol and Sam Levinson now I felt like I was crazy being the only one who didn't think he was great
i believe he’s talking about the line where they say “i’m f****** sh****** more bl**d than a kid at epst*in island” lots of censors to avoid getting banned
Jesus Christ I feel like the second half changed me as a person lmao
Gotta say ive never interacted w jacksepticeye's content beyond maybe overhearing a lets play my friends younger sister was watching, but wow what a great episode! Such an insightful dude, love u guys
Honestly, this is possibly one of the best podcasts I've listened too. I can not tell you how much listening to you guys honestly talk about your mental health and struggles means. As another 30-something professional who grew up with UA-cam, it means the world for you guys to talk about things I struggle with as well. It really makes me feel like I'm not alone. You always know that other people struggle, but it really helps when people you grew up watching share their own experiences.
The episode is fantastic. You guys are funny, relatable, and genuine. I can't believe I haven't listened to this podcast before.
Thanks guys! ❤❤
It's such a scary time in America for trans people like myself right now, and hearing you guys just casually being supportive in conversation means so much. Having a platform as big as you guys do and deciding to use it in such a positive way gives me so much hope. Thanks Jarvis, Jordan, and Sean. You guys are seriously making the world a better place with your content.
Jordan talking about working through the illusion that your parent could fix everything killed me. I’m 29 and I lost my mom in 2021. She was my hero and was JUST like that, she always had an answer, always knew who to call or what needed done, and in the time she’s been gone there have been so many situations where I find myself desperately wishing she was here and could tell me what to do. Then I realize that obviously she wasn’t magic, just solution oriented and good at faking it until she made it, and maybe I can learn to be that way too.
This was such a fantastic episode of my favorite podcast. Thanks for sharing this, dudes. My favorite part is around 1:30:00, when Sean mentions that his therapist suggested to him the idea that we all have more than one “age” inside us, a metaphorical adult age and a metaphorical child age. Sean asks Jordan and Jarvis to guess the ages of each others’ inner child. It is so meaningful to me as a consumer of this podcast to see that concept normalized. Through my therapy journey, I’ve spent several years learning about and trying to feel comfortable with this idea of an inner child. I feel ashamed of it. It’s deeply comforting to hear a group of dudes discuss it openly within the context of mental health, and engage in a conversation about it. I’m so grateful for the vulnerability that you three have chosen to share not only with each other but also with everyone who listens to this episode. This meant a lot to me. I truly believe that you are accomplishing exactly what you set out to accomplish with this podcast, and this episode is a solid example of that.
this episode is slept on but I am happy that I found it
Y'all's voices are so lovely and relaxing it has taken me four times to listen to this whole thing because I kept falling asleep. And I am so glad I did. Your vulnerability and presence with each other is really, truly, healing and beautiful to watch. Thank you for always being you, Jarvis (especially because I've been watching your stuff for years).
There is something very healing to see three men talking about why shit like 13 Reasons Why is harmful and garbage. I have PTSD from SA and a friend I trusted told me to watch it and I ended up having to deal with fairly severe panic attacks from it - alongside being told that I'm being 'too sensitive' and 'too dramatic' by people in my life.
The mental health shit is so real - as a teenager who's been suicidal for long periods of time, shows that romanticise it make me not want to get help. They made me feel like being suicidal was like the end goal. Not cool.
To be fair, I have never had any interest in Lost until you guys have been talking about it. I don't watch a lot of tv but I might give Lost a go.
the flow of your guys' conversation was so fun! always excited but giving each other space to finish thoughts
i don't usually comment on podcast episodes, but i really enjoyed this. I think jarvis and jordan are really great hosts but jarvis in particular shines whenever there's a guest
as someone who enjoys jack and has been a big part of my life, its always nice for him to be open. i struggle with mental health, and the past couple of years, i have been able to learn to love and be happy with myself. sure i have my down days, but overall, im happy and have learnt to be happy with who i am and love me for me
a great episode boyz, it was so fun to see Sean on here
speaking of The Idol, one of blackpink's members Jennie, made her acting debut on The Idol, and I feel so bad for her 😭😭😭
guest list really is going crazy!
You can really tell who has actually been depressed before vs people who have just been sad at times.
If I watched 13 reasons why during my serious depressed period as a young teen I don’t know what I would have done. I never tried or got close to doing it, but the thought was constantly in my head for a while. So for me part of the idea of suicide was to stick it to people who are making me suffer. Make sure they know they did this.
13 reasons why just shows you how much you can impact people if you go ahead and do it. How are people allowed to make these things? It’s just disgusting and very ignorant.
Jarvis crossovers are on fire this year
1:24:00 thats Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria very common ADHD thing, when you perceive rejection and your brain just shuts tf down and youre absolutely DEVASTATED even when it's smth small
as someone who lived through the Phan and 1direction/Larry yeah i am never going to ship real people like No we're not doing that shit it ruins friendships and harms people's mental health and creates a real space of fear and stress for people like, as much as i would Love to see my faves in happy relationships and being cute, im not gonna sit around writing ff about it or telling them to their faces, ew, creepy, weird
The show 13 reasons why literally CHANGED the method of s**cide from the book (in which she used medication) to something WAY more graphic on purpose for the show. Also, she used an unrealistic method which rarely leads to actual death. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
(not sure if I shoulda censored that word but I did just to be safe lol)
not to sound parasocial or anything, but these three guys have genuinely helped me through so much. it’s so nice hearing men open up about their emotions and normalize discussions of mental health. as a trans man, it’s been hard for me to accept the parts of my personality that society deems “feminine” or “unmanly,” such and my sensitivity, struggles with mental health, or even just some of my interests. these guys are nothing but pure, kind, and good souls. the world needs more Seáns, Jarvis’, and Jordans
Out of everything I expected from this episode, Jack being a One Piece fan was not one of them
the comment jarvis is talking about with the idol is
“'I'm sh-tting more blood than a kid at epstein's island'- an actual quote said by someone in the show.
In context of the episode he said it slighly while something bad happens in jocelyns career. Nobody pays mind to it and its so uneeded
ok but can we talk about how good jordans mustache always looks like hello??
Never seen you guys until seeing this episode and the emotional intelligence and just quenching conversation was amazing. Loved this 🥰 Will be checking out more of you guys!!
Thank you 3 so much for talking about mental health so openly. As someone struggling with mental health myself, I think it's so important that people, especially people with a platform as big as all of you combined, keep talking about it. Thank you so much for this episode!!
I know nobody cares but I'm putting this here in case I ever come back to it. I'd say my kid age is 11 or 12 and my adult age is 29 or 39 (specifically for the thing of constantly fearing getting older because Passage Of Time and Productivity etc, but also striving for maturity and respect at the same time)
The Austin Powers segment was actually super interesting to hear you guys talk about, because it was extremely reminiscent of ideas of complicity and symbolic protest given by Thomas E. Hill (a modern philosopher). He uses the idea of being at a business dinner with a racist boss and client and what you are morally obligated to do as well as the rationale in choosing to speak up, an instance he would call symbolic protest. I just thought it was super cool you were touching on important philosophical questions without even trying :)
definitely needed to hear a lot of what was talked about in this one. thank you guys
As someone who studies family systems and attachment, it's soooo great to see them talking about how their childhood experiences impacted how they behave as adults and how they're working on it. Because, as Jarvis brought up with CBT, all those roles like "the one who tried to solve the problems" "the one who used humor" etc have names and research as well. Both therapy and academic research can be super inaccessible, but having creators talking in an informed way gets this information to more people.
When they said Sean had a gauntlet after he listed his diagnosises I almost cackled. I have have a similar situation and I like to says I have a Costcos list worth of usually unfortunate brain shenanigans.
Love Jarvis's book rec. CBT changed my life so much. I didn't believe I could actually change my thoughts but over time with practice, I really do think differently now and have a lot more inner peace.
the noise I made upon seeing this week’s guest was genuinely embarrassing
Re: the adhd talk + "am I annoying" stuff, Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria. It is by far my most hated adhd symptom
1:43:09 Jarvis's episode of aphasia here he tries to recall sonder
swell entertainment did a really interesting video on temu and even mentioned emailing back several of their promotional emails just to see what they would offer if anyone wants to see more about that
Re: temu. My mum told me about a decade ago, if an advert ever strongly implies something without actually saying that thing, they do the opposite of that thing.
At the time the advert in question was for a herbicide for your lawn. The advert showed lots of happy dancing CGI animals, but if you looked in the small print it was like Hella toxic to all animal life.
So when *that* TEMU advert had the scene with a happy, smiling employee handing a package to a customer in a clean, quiet warehouse my immediate thought was "oh, so they treat their warehouse/manufacturing staff like shit, right?"
And i think it's now turned out they have 'questionably sourced labour' in their supply chain?
I'm Canadian and I went to London earlier this year and everytime some one asked "you alright", it caught me so off guard. It felt like a question that should've been answered with more than one word lol
A+ on that pronoun check. That's how it's done.
Nah.
@@SaraRankins.I dont think these creators are for you then, out.
This is entirely unexpected but I’m excited to watch!
OH MY GOD THE GUESTS JUST GET CRAZIER AND CRAZIER
the fact that the weekend WROTE the idol with sam levinson is whats most disturbing for me
LOST MENTION AFTER MIKE'S MIC LOST RECAP???
To say my partner screamed listening to this when you mentioned flash forward! I still do not remember but you've validated her mentioning it whenever we talk lost!!
AYYYY THE BIGGEST IRISH UA-camR (in our hearts)!!
When Sean was asking about Jordan and Jarvis' kid and adult ages, in my head I went "Jordan would be like 13, and Jarvis would like like 15 and 32"
I've watched too many of their videos lmao
As soon as the female perspective was purposefully completely decentered/removed on The Idol is when you know the point was gonna be missed.
Sam Levinson after all, loooves profiting of depicting women and girls in severe pain and distress (someone check his hard drive).
I'm in my early 20s and I've fully taken off the mask of performity
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One thing about Sean, every time he's on something its about to be a whole therapy session. I love it.
1:43:28 the word is Sonder lol thank you Brent Faiyaz
“I’m not angry I’m just louddd” lmaoooo
I'm so glad Jarvis called out Temu lol I've seen so many people fall for it and it's driving me nuts 😂 if you don't support shein and wish, don't support temu 🙏🏼
Also...13 reasons why. Thank you for saying that bc I've always been horrified that they thought it was okay to make and I can't believe people think it's fine
I listened to this on Spotify but had to come to UA-cam because I really wanted to comment. Two things:
1. I'm a PhD student in literature and I both agree and disagree with your point about interpreting narrative media. I think authorial intentions do matter (we cannot ignore that the goblins in Harry Potter are both intentionally problematically racist Jewish stereotypes), but I also think that once a piece of media comes into existence it starts to belong to the reader. My research focuses on adaptation, so I think the interesting part of interpretation is in that tension between the authorial intention and what the audience interprets it to mean. So sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, but only if you want it to be!
2. The book Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents changed my life! Check it out if the title sounds like it describes you.
I love the podcast! Thanks for such an insightful conversation.
watching while cutting fabric and my head whipped around when you mentioned From. I haven't seen it because it's a little too Horror for me, but I have been an extra on season two and it was Very Fun, definitely my favourite set to be on.
I watched Twin Peaks season 1,2, Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me, and Twin Peaks: The Return and I read both Twin Peaks books during the lockdowns in 2020. I am glad I took in all of that content, but that was a lot.
really appreciated this episode and everything they went into, a lot of really important topics and it was really nice to hear their perspectives and experiences
As an Australian, I apologise for the Austin Prowler
I am SO GLAD you guys gave a shoutout to From. I've been bingeing it lately and I am OBSESSED
an Austin Powers impersonator that's bigoted and insists on singing? I think you guys might've found a really method David Brent impersonator on accident that's so dedicated to impersonating David Brent that he claims to be an Austin Powers impersonator
the other day someone asked me if I’d watched From & I didn’t say anything because I hadn’t heard of it & I thought I would ask what it was it would be an Updog joke like “from your mom’s house” or “no, not what’s from, WHERE from”
it's so wild that jack and jarvis are in the same room together, i'm a fan of both channels, i never expected them to connect
I feel like yellowjackets really appeals to women in a way that its like a glimpse into like lord of the flies but sisterhood idk, I'm still a teenager so i may just like it bc it represents teenagers.
can't believe you got the co-host of the No. 1 podcast Brain Leak
I heard they topped Jim Brogan!!
Austin Powers does sing, in one of the films he sings with his band a song about how his Dad didn't care about him.
i started watching Mikes Mics LOST recap video but then decided that the show actually sounded interesting like 30 minutes into that video. Now I'm starting it with my mom because she loves shows like that. Also remebered that you guys love LOST and talk so highly of it that I figured it must be worth watching.
Pls I'm here after watching that video 😭
When 13 reasons was released almost everyone in my highschool watched it. After the finale came out I heard some of the girls talking about it, and one of the girls was basically yelling that Hannah asked for it, because she didn't say no. How she would have fought back and hit him etc. I watched it after hearing this and honestly, the show was whatever, but whenever I hear about this show I think about that. Anyways
Not y’all talking about Lost the day before Mikes mic releasing the first of his Lost series recap.
So much love for this podcast. Helps me feel regulated and always has the perfect vibe and pace for me. Much love to Jarvis and Jordan. (And Seán)
oz is soooo good you guys. it’s very complex and divisive but it’s like flawless television as far as storytelling and multifaceted characters