The Fall of Attila the Hun: The Battle of Catalaunian Plains | 451 AD | DOCUMENTARY

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  • @AdituLaudisMMXXI
    @AdituLaudisMMXXI  Рік тому +68

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    • @MrAnderson5157
      @MrAnderson5157 Рік тому +3

      These were the times where the romans used the phalanx which they learned from the Greeks. Specifically for these types of enemies.

    • @izidorkohn1908
      @izidorkohn1908 Рік тому +8

      Attila is often lied to by Western historians because it annoys them that he beat them to shit, especially slapping the Romans in the ass as they fled. But they forget that it was with the disintegration of the Roman Empire that the formation of independent nations began.

    • @izidorkohn1908
      @izidorkohn1908 Рік тому +12

      The Huns are still the toughest people in Europe. No one could destroy them. They have their own unique ancient language, some that no one understands, and strangers find it very difficult to learn. Their culture and folk art date back to the Scythians.

    • @EtonieE25
      @EtonieE25 Рік тому +3

      Great editing and feature as per usual 👍 Total War is still the best strategy game out there

    • @ramtin5152
      @ramtin5152 Рік тому +3

      ​​@@izidorkohn1908 But Scythians weren't Turkic people
      Sure they were mixed with Huns during the 4th or 5th century AD but their origin was Iranian or Indo European
      It's even mentioned they spoke in Iranian languages

  • @petoimre3671
    @petoimre3671 Рік тому +36

    Az Attila-film és brutális szövege különösen, köszönő viszonyban nincs a történelmi tényekkel! Hazugság, szemtelen a javából!

    • @gusztavbankuti8272
      @gusztavbankuti8272 7 місяців тому

      Mit vár tóle ? Gagyi nyugati maszlag.Nyugatnak halvány fogalma sincs a történelemről csak a hazudozáshoz értenek.

    • @ronaldmessina4229
      @ronaldmessina4229 5 місяців тому +2

      Y porqué hay que traducir al anglosajón?😢 el anglosajón no tiene nada de la gracia necesaria para hacer traducciones, en cambio el idioma que aquí se utiliza es completamente válido para hacerse entender mundialmente ❤😊

    • @tenzingngedon3502
      @tenzingngedon3502 2 місяці тому +1

      A nyugatiak már csak ilyenek! Össze -vissza hazudoznak! Ha Atila vesztett Catalaunum-nál ,akkor hogy lehet ,hogy Aetius eltűnt a csatamezőről ,mert a gótok királyuk elvesztése után elvonultak a csatatérről?Meggyengítve a római hadat! és HOL volt Aetius a következő évben Aquiella ostromakor? és Hol volt a sereg? és akkor amikor Ravenna elfoglalása után Róma ellen vonult? Hol volt Aetius és az állítólagos római had??Amúgy, a franciák felásták az egész Catalaunumi síkot és SEMMIT sem találtak, nemhogy egy törött kardot ,de még egy sisakot vagy legalább egy fésűt sem! Semmit sem találtak! Tehát ,ha volt csata az nem Catalaunum- nál volt! Amúgy Atila elfoglalta egész észak Franciaországot és a térképük is hamis itt! Mivel egyértelműen felsorolják címei között a "dánok és médek királya" Sőt dél Skandináviát (Svéd-ország) is elfoglaltákl! Média pedig délen van Észak-Perzsiában. Továbbá tudjuk ,hogy a teljes Közép-Ázsia is az uralma alá tartozott...19 évnyi uralkodása alatt kétszer is visszatért oda "Nagy haddal"rendet rakni!....Hazugságokra tanítják a nyugatiakat, a nagy magyar gyűlöletük is részben ennek köszönhető! Nameg a NagyBoldogasszony kultuszunknak ,mivel a magya-rok mindig is matriarchatusban éltek,még sziszteműk is matriarchális volt!Szemben az ösz-szes európai néppel ,akik átvették a zsidó patriarchalis szisztemetl!..........

    • @tenzingngedon3502
      @tenzingngedon3502 2 місяці тому

      :D...P a Véleményterroristák nem tetszik az igazság! Áthúzogatják ! ...:D Tanuljatok valós történelmet NE hazudozzatok tovább ,nagyon negatív karmát hoztok saját fejetekre!...Persze ezek nincsennek is tudatában ,hogy a Karma hogyan is működik?

    • @tenzingngedon3502
      @tenzingngedon3502 2 місяці тому +2

      Az egész egy gyalázatos Holy Woodoo hakni!

  • @sandortoth7344
    @sandortoth7344 Рік тому +17

    Ma sem értem. Ha Attila maradt a csata helyszínén és a rómaiak és szövetségeseik elvonultak, hogyan lehet ezt számukra győzelemnek tekinteni? Egyértelmű Hun győzelem volt, a folytatás a teljes megsemmisülést jelentette volna Aetius számára. Lehet, hogy haztérve éppen a dicsőséges győzelme miatt végezték ki Aetiust? Csak gondolkodom.

    • @Ταργιτάος1
      @Ταργιτάος1 Рік тому +5

      Igazad van, de mit kezdjünk azzal a sok százmillió európai és amerikai emberrel akik elhitték és továbbra is el fogják hinni ezeket a hunellenes és magyarellenes narrativákat?
      Mi olyanok vagyunk mint Don Quijote a szélmalmokkal, egy pár millió magyar a hatalmas indoeurópai nyelvű kultúrákkal és mentalitásokkal szemben!

    • @dr.d.j.laszlo
      @dr.d.j.laszlo Рік тому +4

      Egyetértek, én is ezt írtam a kretén nyugatiaknak angolul.

    • @OtaBengaBokongo
      @OtaBengaBokongo 7 місяців тому

      ​@@dr.d.j.laszloHungarians are Slavs, not Huns Grow up

    • @gianidumitrache1330
      @gianidumitrache1330 3 місяці тому

      @@OtaBengaBokongo
      Ungurii nu sunt slavi, dar nici nu se trag din huni.Ungurii au venit in Europa aproximatix cinci sute de ani mai tarziu.Adevarat din aceleași zone.

    • @Аорс-х5я
      @Аорс-х5я 3 місяці тому

      ​​@@OtaBengaBokongoВЕНГРЫ НЕ СЛАВЯНЕ!!!!! ВЕНГРЫ НЕ ГУННЫ!!!!!! ВЕНГРЫ ФИННО-УГОРСКИЕ ПЛЕМЕНА!!!!!!!!! А вы все БАРАНЫ!!!!!!

  • @antalsafar4255
    @antalsafar4255 Рік тому +25

    Az a probléma, hogy Catalaunum illetve Mariacum környékén, bár kutatások folytak, nem találják a nyomait sem egy ilyen volumenű ütközetnek. Viszont írásos nyomai vannak az elmúlt századok történelem hamisitasanak.

    • @garlic2006
      @garlic2006 10 місяців тому +1

      the only falsifications are in your Hungarian history books, Attila was a bluff

    • @aranykert
      @aranykert 10 місяців тому

      Yes man! If Atilla was a bluff, you don't even exist s.t.u.p.i.d!@@garlic2006

    • @gyulaerdei3180
      @gyulaerdei3180 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@@garlic2006- olvasgass még !
      Hiányos a tudásod ! .....
      :)

    • @janicomp
      @janicomp 6 місяців тому +2

      @@garlic2006 ostoba a hozzászólásod

    • @garlic2006
      @garlic2006 6 місяців тому

      @@janicomp Hungary has lost all wars and all battles, and you now use Attila to defame the Romans re-inventing and
      distorting history. SHAME. Attila was humiliated, this is history. STOP.

  • @lajos-berenyi
    @lajos-berenyi Рік тому +7

    Interesting title. Attila has fallen so much, that in the next year (452) he conquered Italy and only because of the Pope's begging he was so merciful, that didn't destroyed Roma.

    • @AdituLaudisMMXXI
      @AdituLaudisMMXXI  Рік тому

      He died not to long after, watch the entire video

    • @lajos-berenyi
      @lajos-berenyi Рік тому +1

      @@AdituLaudisMMXXI depends, what does it mean, that not long after (two years)? Also depends, if someone dies, does it mean, that he has fallen? And even all this doesn't change, that the title is totally fake.

  • @israellopezalegria640
    @israellopezalegria640 Рік тому +4

    Me gustó mucho, estaré pendiente de ese canal para ver próximaxs batallas. Me gustaria ver las batallas de Napoleón Bonaparte.

  • @zoltanuszkai4337
    @zoltanuszkai4337 Рік тому +30

    Én hallottam olyan előadást amelyben a professor azt mondta hogy nem volt csata.Egy csomó ember meghalt volna értelmetlenül.A másik dolog ha volt ütközet nem a legyőzött szokott helyben maradni hanem a gyöztes.A rómaiak hagyták ott a csatateret.

    • @borbelyistvan1012
      @borbelyistvan1012 Рік тому +1

      Hamisitott történelem.

    • @dr.d.j.laszlo
      @dr.d.j.laszlo Рік тому +5

      Fentebb én is ezt írtam angolul, hogy a kretén nyugatiak is értsék. Habár nem hiszem, hogy menni fog nekik ahhoz ész is kellene, az meg nincs nekik.

    • @tereziacsizmadia34
      @tereziacsizmadia34 Рік тому +6

      Minden esetre nem találják az állítólagos csatateret. Igazad van ,nem a legyőzött maradt a csatatéren,hanem a győztes,akkoriban még a győztes feladata volt,az elesettek eltemetése . Még valami fontos,a vizi gótok királya elesett,másnap reggelre a gótok eltüntek,számukra az volt fontos ,hogy ki legyen a királyuk. Aetius amikor látta,hogy kevesen vannak ,visszatért Rómába,ahol meggyilkolták. Győztes Hadvezért ki szoktak végezni? Ha Atilla lett volna a vesztes,milyen Hadsereggel indult volna 452-ben Róma ellen? A hunok reflexijjai sokkal távolabbi hatással rendelkeztek,mint az ellenségé . Ugyan az,vagy hasonló játszódhatot le ,mint Carreránál a Pártusok idején !

    • @адикфлодер
      @адикфлодер 11 місяців тому

      харош мультики показывать.
      эту битву народов описали Францисканские монахи наблюдавшие за ней с холма.
      против 150 нахов во главе с Атиллой из племени гунов. рим выставил 1 миллион солдат. по 300 тыс от рима от галлов и готтов и через 3 дня за счет числености римский генерал Аврелий хотел их окружить зажав к реке Кельн в германии нынешей это. Атилла угадав его план ночью перевел армию через кельн и захватил крепость позади себя осел там а римская армия не решилась пойти вслед за нахами( Аланы Гунны Викинги Англы варяги это все разные названия одного и того же народа с кавказа. Нахов. ведущих свой род от предка Ноха. ( библейского Ноя .Ноаха)
      Атилла послал за подмогой на родину вестника и через год к нему прибыло еще 250 тыс Нахов. их в европе знают как 1авар- это переводится как пришел пожить. на время. вот там и был воплощен план Барбаросса. 3 удара в разные точки чтоб не дать Риму как раньше обьединиться в миллионную армию как при Колотуанской битве.
      к тому же пока атилла был в европе на его родину напали Сарматы и нахам пришлось часть войск отсылать на кавказ чтоб обезопасить родину и генералы Курмих и Басих с сыном Атиллы Динцигом через Азовское море вернулись и истребили акациров-сарматов напавших на аланию а потом совершили поход за каспий и там тоже разогнали их логово и после этого про них никто слышал в мире.
      на самом деле Атилла и Нахи даже не хотели покорять ни рим ни европу они просто преследовали ост-Готов которые вместе со славянами первые напали на аланию перейдя за реки Тина и Итиль на кавказ 600 тыс войском и когда нахи погнали их со своей земли то славяне спрятались выжившие в полуночных землях на севере а ост-готы бежали к западным готам спастись преследуемые гуном Атилой со 150 тыс армией Нахов-Аланов. вот так они и дошли до запада и рим встал на их пути. но после того как рим нанес серьезный урон нахам то они уже решили поквитаться и с Римом. и так и сделали. потом.

    • @OtaBengaBokongo
      @OtaBengaBokongo 7 місяців тому

      @@tereziacsizmadia34 why Hungarians care for Atillla or the Huns?
      Hungarians are Slavs, nothing to do with the Huns

  • @nenenindonu
    @nenenindonu Рік тому +66

    It's a strategic stalemate and tactical victory for Attila since the year after the Romans were left with no man power and had to watch the Huns razing their way into Rome until paying them off

    • @scourgeofgodattila579
      @scourgeofgodattila579 Рік тому +13

      Desicive Hun victory.

    • @patung1990
      @patung1990 Рік тому +3

      The Romans already lacked man power way before the invasion of the Huns. Like the video says, they rely on mercenaries.

    • @belasaska4269
      @belasaska4269 Рік тому +5

      Atila nem szenvedett vereséget félre vezető a cím, inkább pont hogy a Rómaiak szenvedtek vereséget hisz elvesztették hadvezérüket , és mikkor Őseink ott voltak a Római légiók elkotrodtak szép csendben .Ráadásul a gyalogosok hátrányban vannak a lovas íjászokkal szemben .

    • @gaborbaki6983
      @gaborbaki6983 Рік тому

      Hun army 700 000 rider ..mandzsuria to -hindiztan-kaukazus hill-europe ..5 hun empire ....europe hun 150 000 rider

    • @johnconnery1939
      @johnconnery1939 Рік тому +1

      Both sides had paid Allies

  • @paolohollit7400
    @paolohollit7400 9 місяців тому +5

    Spiace, una grande inesattezza! Ma Attila si fermò prima di arrivare a Roma grazie all'incontro con Sua Santita Papa Leone I

  • @danielbrezovai3141
    @danielbrezovai3141 7 місяців тому +15

    Research will continue in 2024. We HUNGARIANS are a very mixed ethnic group, but current research shows many similarities with the Huns. We are related to the Turks, Uighurs, Huns, Xuanzhuans and many other ethnic groups. I used to say that we are a mixture of many peoples, because we lived a nomadic lifestyle, so it is not surprising that we mixed with many peoples before we arrived in the Carpathian Basin. According to one of the claims, we came from the Uyghurs from today's Ural Mountains or the state of So, which is now China, where the Xuanxuans and the Turks also came from. There are words of Hun origin in our language, for example hitü = faith (in Hungarian, hit). I hope I was able to provide new information. A Hungarian history teacher. And thanks to the site for the great battle scenes!

    • @marlongoncalvesdias502
      @marlongoncalvesdias502 5 місяців тому

      Exatamente. Húngaros tem origens nos Unos.

    • @tenzingngedon3502
      @tenzingngedon3502 2 місяці тому

      The magyars never been "nomadic people"! That is a fals propaganda! Neither in their Hun ages ....Nomadic people did not built enormous cites like Tongwangcsen= Fehérvár in Asia neither Etzilburg wich is a german word for Atila"s castle (later called Vetus Buda) in moun-tain of Pilis.Vetus is latin word means "Old"....Yes Hungarians are mixed people like french or british people! Hun-magyars has many scythian tribes like asi-alans called by romans Jazigs =jász! besenyő=pecheneggs,palóc,matyó,pannon,avar,szeklers=székely=hun,etc...They are all huns. with..R1 A genetic code!

  • @marcosbezerra1863
    @marcosbezerra1863 Рік тому +2

    @Aditu Laudis, could format videos of older battles, for example, the Battle of Kadesh, between Hittites and Egyptians, the wars between Hazael and Assyria, the Battle of Karkar, involving Israel, Aram and Assyria. Thanks.

  • @nenenindonu
    @nenenindonu Рік тому +105

    Contrary to common belief Huns didn't just vanish but dissolved as a unified entity with Oghur tribes Utigur, Akatziri, Saragur, Onogur, Barsil, Kutrigur, Bulgar, Sabir, all being fractions

    • @gaborbaki6983
      @gaborbaki6983 Рік тому +10

      yes 2010 .......Hun people 810 million ...hun-blood-genetic R1a1-J2

    • @MrGunBunny13
      @MrGunBunny13 Рік тому +7

      Yes, but that is the way of most empires that fall.

    • @jakmachine9279
      @jakmachine9279 Рік тому

      بیا سرشو بخور بابا

    • @davidkinsey8657
      @davidkinsey8657 Рік тому +1

      It's also thought by many linguists that some of Atilla's hoard settled in the Pyrenees and evolved into the Basques.

    • @laszlobalogh3717
      @laszlobalogh3717 Рік тому +2

      KOSZONOM....

  • @brianschilling4279
    @brianschilling4279 10 місяців тому +1

    Great history video 📹

  • @JorgeRodriguez-rl7tn
    @JorgeRodriguez-rl7tn Рік тому +72

    Historically, after remaining a week after the battle both armies in their camps watching each other, Attila's army was the one that initially executed a withdrawal to the Rhine River, in which it was followed at a prudent distance by the Romans and Alans.

    • @timothylee2772
      @timothylee2772 Рік тому +2

      I think it was more of a stalemate than it is a victory for either side.

    • @krisztinamerenyi4136
      @krisztinamerenyi4136 Рік тому +1

      😆😆😆

    • @attilatasciko4817
      @attilatasciko4817 Рік тому +3

      All Alans was slutered by Attila's troops , they was the first , because they betreadet him ! Attila's had large Alans troops to ! Etc...

    • @tenzingngedon3502
      @tenzingngedon3502 2 місяці тому

      The huns stayed the romans left! Theodoric king of Gots has died in the battle ,so Aetius biggest allay left the battle field ...They clearly lost! Where was Aetius next year when the huns took Aquiellia? Where was the roman army? Nowhere! Where was the roman army with Aetius when Atila San-Jü went against Rome? The Pop was runinng to bow and kneeling down front of Atila! We know that ,all this facts are very painful to You! But this is the true!....By the way the alans does not existed after battle of Catalaunum ,before Catalaunum they have tried to resist to Atila, but in a battle 80 thousand of alans has died right there in the battlefield!

    • @tenzingngedon3502
      @tenzingngedon3502 2 місяці тому

      @@timothylee2772 Romans lost!

  • @magdikaolasz9568
    @magdikaolasz9568 Рік тому +13

    The leaders of the coalition were wrong several times. However, the Huns launched a general attack the very next day, at dawn on the second day of June 451. The main forces attacked from the opposite side, the Eastern Goths from the right and the Gepids from the left. The hesitant and confused coalition troops who woke up with the alarm were so surprised that the fate of the battle was decided in just a few hours. Severus's legions were easily scattered and routed by Theodemir's Gothic hurlers
    Attila's heavy cavalry, consisting of armored javelins and lancers, and the three solid penetrating wedges of the previously unknown "cataphracts" amazed and surprised the Roman center that the light-armored legions were completely powerless against them. The javelins advanced as far as Vetrónius's fighting position, but Atilla ordered them in a different direction because he did not want to risk the life of Aetius.
    Ardarik's best Gepid mudguard was tasked with capturing Theodoric and his staff. The bulk of the left wing attacked with great force, but at a measured pace, against the Visigoths, who knew Hun tactics well. However, half a concentrated Gyor team, led by the prince of Bajuvár Alaufin, bypassed the city of Tul with a special fighting style and attacked from the side and broke through the Visigothic order. They calculated well that the attack on the eye would distract the commanders. The order of battle, which did not secure his side well enough, was broken through with a single thrust. Given that they were well acquainted with the fighting style of the Visigoths, they reached the tribal positions almost unmolested. In the Battle of Catalnaum, Atilla defeated the coalition armies, went to Rome, where the Pope offered Atilla the keys to Rome, but Atilla did not accept it, he did not want to destroy the city. They also don't know that Atilla saved the Roman Empire several times. The Roman emperor had a bodyguard of Huns.

    • @ildikomakany3522
      @ildikomakany3522 2 місяці тому

      Köszi, hogy tudsz angolul! Honnan tudod ilyen részletesen az eseményeket?

    • @tenzingngedon3502
      @tenzingngedon3502 Місяць тому

      Hozzá kell tegyük a Pápa megkorononázta Atila-t a magyar Szent-Koronával ,ami neki készült ami-kor született Armeniai Engadi városában 406 körül,ahol Atila Senyő nevelkedett is! ....

  • @yomommaahotoo264
    @yomommaahotoo264 11 місяців тому +2

    Appreciate your efforts but PLEASE factor in narrator audio vs sound effects (as good as they are).
    Tweak down the effects a little so we can understand better.

  • @thehashslingingslasher6443
    @thehashslingingslasher6443 Рік тому +4

    imagine being there seeing this battle in person.... this battle truly molded Europe to what it is today. crazy.. if the huns won history would have been far different

    • @sandortoth7344
      @sandortoth7344 Рік тому +1

      A Hunok nyertek. Ettől ilyen a történelem ma.

    • @aranykert
      @aranykert 10 місяців тому

      not really! we won all the battles in our European tours, but never conquered any land. The Carpathian Valley is more precious and fruitful than any other country in Europe!

    • @ildikomakany3522
      @ildikomakany3522 2 місяці тому

      The huns won. But Attila was killed in 453.

  • @dosierchannel6387
    @dosierchannel6387 Рік тому

    This is my favorite new channel

  • @csabaiandras9861
    @csabaiandras9861 Рік тому +5

    Az nem zavar, hogy Katalónia az Ibériai-félszigeten van, a catalaunumi csata helyszíne meg a mai Franciaország területén?

    • @AdituLaudisMMXXI
      @AdituLaudisMMXXI  Рік тому

      It seems Google translate does not get the translation right from english

    • @JurajSzeman
      @JurajSzeman Місяць тому

      Katalan es katalunya nem ugyan az!! A csata ugy dolt el, hogy a burgundok penzert ,aetiusz tol, elarultak a hunokat. Apropo! A burgundok is nomad nep ,csak korabban jottek europaba.....

  • @joselsantz1889
    @joselsantz1889 2 місяці тому

    Greetings! What´s your setup? ram, graphic card,an power supply?

  • @Ulises-Gonzalez-3131
    @Ulises-Gonzalez-3131 Рік тому +18

    Increíble el daño que causaban con sus jinetes arqueros, y que pocas tribus e imperios lograron imitarlos al mismo nivel de disparo extra largo.
    Incredible the damage caused by their mounted archers, and that few tribes and empires were able to imitate at the same level of extra long range shoot.

    • @gaborbaki6983
      @gaborbaki6983 Рік тому +2

      3. typ.. 1 ..Great-long =türkish-bow 800 meter ...2. Hun-bow medium 600 meter ..3. rapid-bow mongol medium 400-500 meter ....europer arrows 220-300 meter ...

    • @Ulises-Gonzalez-3131
      @Ulises-Gonzalez-3131 Рік тому +2

      @@gaborbaki6983 , turkish bow on a horse?, and why they didn't conquer half of the world as them?, although some say thah turks are descendents of huns, and them of mongols...

    • @gaborbaki6983
      @gaborbaki6983 Рік тому +2

      @@Ulises-Gonzalez-3131 göktürk empire...hun empire...mongol empire...et Timur kán-Tamerlan sah= turco-mogollar sultan --turan -lideri ...Türkish bow 120 kg -power , grande radius ..minimal problem horse-expedition...

    • @АннаКасабова-ь8щ
      @АннаКасабова-ь8щ Рік тому

      Нищо не разбирам от шибания ви английски език пишете си едни на други

    • @metehangokturk9696
      @metehangokturk9696 Рік тому +1

      @@Ulises-Gonzalez-3131... well, you're right, the Turks and the Huns are related. The Mongol ruler Genghis Khan had many Turkish/Hun soldiers in his army. Whether the Huns are descended from the Mongols has not yet been fully clarified, as the opinions of many historians differ. But the languages are very similar ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan ... the Turks had a large empire on three continents that lasted 500 years. Why should the sultans expand their empire to the east? It would have been unwise to control and steer such an empire, as we see with the Huns, Romans and Mongols (the Mongol empire did not last long). If you look closely at the standard of the Turkish president, you will see the sun surrounded by 16 small stars at the top left. The sun represents today's Türkiye, the 16 small stars represent the empire of the Turks in history .. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Seal_of_Turkey here is a link to Göktürks .. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6kt%C3%BCrks

  • @istvanpesti5758
    @istvanpesti5758 3 місяці тому

    Where was the meeting between Atilla and Aetius? Catalaunum or Barcelona ?

  • @wanderlewis8552
    @wanderlewis8552 Рік тому +8

    Please explain to me how did the Huns led by Attila reach the gates of Rome the following year, if they were "defeated" in Gaul?? Rome was defenceless, the pope begged Atiila not to destroy the city and what a miracle: Attila listened to the old man and left, w/o any pillaging. The pope was so thankful that called him the "scourge of God". Tell me which is the tactic when I defeat the enemy far away from my capital and then I let it reach my capital city?? Which other "barbarian" army did spare Rome from pillaging?? Did you mention that Aetius was a royal hostage at Buda in the Hunnish court and knew Attila well??

    • @alexandrewellingtonvieirad964
      @alexandrewellingtonvieirad964 4 місяці тому

      @@wanderlewis8552 there was not found any traces of battle on the Catalunian fields. I'm not an historian or a connaisseur, but I think Aetius and Atilla made an agreement there. Aetius was after all executed later. Was he executed for treason against Rome?

    • @wanderlewis8552
      @wanderlewis8552 4 місяці тому +1

      @@alexandrewellingtonvieirad964 I agree with the agreement statement. I did not search Aetius' life afterwards, but his execution could have been the revenge of a rival to the throne. It seems logical that two men like Attila and Aetius who knew each other well from teenagerhood, probably spoke each other's language, would not fight and kill each other. Attila demanded half of the empire on solid grounds given Honoria's wedding ring sent to him. He came to get hold of his possessions.

    • @luben3045
      @luben3045 2 місяці тому

      I will give you anoghter exsamle of strange witbdowal.
      When Alexander the Great stood before the fortres of Odesos a prossesion of old wait dressed priest went out from the gate and told him do not to breach the law of brotherhood and to whitdrow his troops.
      Alexander withdrows...
      Like Attila befor the Pope. Both were Thracians born/bulgarians.

    • @ildikomakany3522
      @ildikomakany3522 2 місяці тому +1

      @@luben3045 Attila was "hun born".His capital was in Hungary...

    • @emilysmellylikeshit
      @emilysmellylikeshit 29 днів тому

      The reason why Aetius could not stop Atilla the following year was because his Germanic mercenaries, the bulk of whom made up his military in this famous battle, could not be mustered quickly enough to help Italy. Remember that most of the Visigothic forces (who made up the crucial cavalry contingent) were from Southern and Western Gaul. They had a reason to defend the first incursion, but not the subsequent attack on Italy.
      Attila also had the advantage of drawing a large reserve of manpower from Alan, Ostrogoth, Lombard, and other Germanic tribes whom essentially he had held hostage through the Hun's previous conquest. They were obliged to provide him the replaced manpower, while the Romans could not do the same.

  • @alexandermittelbock6171
    @alexandermittelbock6171 Рік тому +1

    Nice👍🏻👌🏻. Good Work👍🏻

  • @johnconnery1939
    @johnconnery1939 Рік тому +37

    I believe there is considerable evidence that Attila’s forces Formed a defensive circle with his baggage train. He was expecting an attack. When it dos not come he retreated. Aetius also withdrew realizing his shaky Visigoth alliance. I see it as a tactical draw but strategic
    win for Rome.
    True attlla invaded Italy a year or so latter., knowing he could not attack Gaul again. Italy proved a mistake, it was a soft target,except for the Italian summer and annual disease season. Another strategic loss ensued.

    • @underarmbowlingincidentof1981
      @underarmbowlingincidentof1981 Рік тому +2

      "annual disease season" mean but true xD

    • @tenzingngedon3502
      @tenzingngedon3502 2 місяці тому

      Sajnos ez nem így volt!Johnconnery! Semmiféle védőkör nem kellett! Ön keveri a dolgokat ,az a következő évben volt az elfogult nyugati tudósítás szerint Aquiella ostrománál! Aetius ,ha egyáltalán volt csata elhagyta a csatamezőt, mert a gótok királya meghalt a csatában ,ezért a nagyszámú gót sereg elvonult...Aetius legfőbb szövetségese híjján távozott! Észak Gallia a hunok uralma alá került 53 várost dúltak fel! Miként észak Italia (NEM volt Olaszország! Az majd csak a XIX. században lesz!)is a hunok uralma alá került ,mert elfoglalták Rómáig a pápa maga ment és hódolt be ,térdelt le Atila NagySámán előtt! Semmiféle hiba nem volt Róma hódoltatásában! Mivel Atila Senyő hódóltatta a Pápát! Aki szimbólikusan megadta magát, átadta a város kulcsát! Továbbá nem csak letérdelt Atila előtt, hanem Királlyá is Koronázta! A Hun-magyarok felszámolták a római rabszolgatartó szisztemet! Az szúrta a szemüket! Nekik nem voltak rabszolgáik, mivel megvetették a rabszolgatartást és a rabszol-gatartókat is! Náluk csak szolgák voltak! Rendszerint hadifoglyok ,akik bármikor személyes bátorság vagy egyéb hasznos tudás esetén, bármikor újra szabad emberekké válhattak!

  • @xavierribot7138
    @xavierribot7138 Рік тому +2

    Subtitles in catalan. VERY WELL! Subscribed forever :)

  • @weedwizard7906
    @weedwizard7906 Рік тому +24

    These videos are so cool. Everything you need to see and hear about the battles of the past in stunning visuals and great narration. Some of those shots are the closest things we will prob see to how these battles looked like. Great job I’m looking forward for more!

    • @AdituLaudisMMXXI
      @AdituLaudisMMXXI  Рік тому +5

      Thanks, more to come soon

    • @gyawhtetdoe9779
      @gyawhtetdoe9779 Рік тому

      Sorry...cannot understand your pronunciation. Especially the group names. A bit fast.

    • @Lem-cj8ev
      @Lem-cj8ev Рік тому +1

      If you like living in Fantasyland

    • @laszlobalogh3717
      @laszlobalogh3717 Рік тому +1

      A-HUNOK-NEM--VESZTETTEK-4555-BEN....

    • @laszlobalogh3717
      @laszlobalogh3717 Рік тому

      ETIL-,NEMVESZTETT-....,AETIUS-NEM--"NYERT"..

  • @Ferdrew-e1k
    @Ferdrew-e1k Рік тому +1

    MANNN !!! INCREDD vid !!
    I feel INTENSE bumps !! 🦾💥
    👏👏👏🙏

  • @martinloire1785
    @martinloire1785 Рік тому +5

    El nombre de la Batalla es: de los Campos Cataláunicos.

  • @josephphoenix1376
    @josephphoenix1376 Рік тому +2

    Excellent Episode 👍
    Amazing that the battle site has yet to be discovered 🤔😡

    • @aranykert
      @aranykert 10 місяців тому +1

      imagine how many times they cultivated that land in 1500 years!!!

  • @michaeldriskell2038
    @michaeldriskell2038 9 місяців тому +1

    My understanding from other sources is that the Romans left the field because Aetius still hoped to one day utilize Hunnic forces for Rome. And of course his troops were exhausted along with the question of the Visigoths staying to finish the fight. Attila on his part was said to have built a large pile of saddles and things to burn himself up if the Roman forces attacked his encampment and it fell. At best I believe it could be called a " draw " . A pity Attila wasn't finished then and there . Italy suffered for it with the attacks later on and it further brought about the fall of the Western Empire . I enjoyed this presentation ! Thank you for it.😊

  • @uttkarshchauhan7112
    @uttkarshchauhan7112 Рік тому +1

    Quality as always

  • @johnsavers1168
    @johnsavers1168 Рік тому +15

    I enjoyed the description of the conflict. The Germans referred to it as the 'Hunnenschlachtlied' in which tale annually the spirits of the fallen Germans and Huns arose on the anniversary of the battle and fought once more in the same hilly land. In legend one million men fought that day. Incidentally, I thought the general view was that Attila killed his brother, Breda, for some reason. As for Aetius, I had read that his Roman legionaires were mostly German recruits. He himself might be Germanic, taking a Roman, or Romanized variant when he joined the Roman Army. At any rate the Germanic tribal alliance could certainly use the well-trained Roman legion(s) which Aetius commanded. To add a family-feud-type ingredient, the Goths of the east (Ostrogoths) were vassals of Attila's Huns, paying tribute each year. Part of that relationship might mean contributing troops to an Attila war scheme.

    • @lucatampellini9734
      @lucatampellini9734 Рік тому +2

      Aetius was a Roman Citizen of Scythian origins.

    • @johnsavers1168
      @johnsavers1168 Рік тому +1

      @@lucatampellini9734 If this is factual, it accords well with the historical westward migration: Sacae>Scythians>Germanic tribes. Another line involved the Gauthei>Gothi>Getae>Goths>Gauls. Since they were all found together with the Scythians, many historians believe they originated with the Sacae. There seemed to be a strong link with the Northern Kingdom of Israel, which was taken into bondage and placed in "the land of Goshen, Habor and the Medes." They never returned to Israel. The tribe of Dan seemed to have eluded this bondage by taking to the sea and colonizing southern and western Europe. However, 200,000 of Judah were seized from the northern areas of that kingdom and taken into the Assyrian bondage, along with the Northern Kingdom. This was a massive effort on Assyria's part, as the Northern Kingdom was estimated to be about eleven million people at that time. It is important in tracing these matters to recall that the Hebrew language was typically written without vowels. Thus, for example, the tribe of Dan might leave its colonizing mark as 'Dan,' 'Dun' ('Dunne'), 'Den,' 'Din,' 'Don' etc. The name 'Donnell' might be originally 'Dan El' ('Dan of God, tribe thereof). 'Bogdan' seemed to be another of these traces found in the Balkans. From Greece to Ireland one could find the marks of Dan. If this is true of Dan, it may well be true of others. For example, Juteland, if properly pronounced, would be 'Ju•te' or 'Ju•tah', which accords with the tribe of Judah. Also, Judah was the royal tribe whereto the sceptre had been assigned. It seems many European kings arose in the area. Parenthetically, the Holy Roman Empire of Charlemagne embraced almost the entirety of the Germanic peoples. One might conclude that the Northern Kingdom of Israel had been transferred into Europe where it was reconstituted. Some might see the hand of God in this. Be that as it may, we know from Scripture that the people of the Hebrew covenant were to be called "in Isaac's name" ('Saac' or 'SC'). One of the last kings of Israel was Omri. The Assyrians pronounced the initial part of the name with a 'gh' or 'kh' guttural sound, producing a 'khumri' or 'ghomri.' Scholars conclude that the Cymbri of Wales derived naturally from this. So to, the Cimmerians and Gauthei. After all, in the Hebrew language, 'Omri' might be supplied with our 'e' or 'i' and been pronounced 'Khimri' or something akin.
      Just in passing, you may recall the story in Scripture of "the coat of many colors." In the Cecil B. DeMille Hollywood rendering, this coat was depicted as a 'rainbow pattern.' However, this was surely all wrong. Referencing the Scythians again, this people migrated to some extent eastward as well as westward. There was discovered in China in modern times a mummy which did not bear the characteristics of the Chinese people anatomically or culturally (dress and accessaries). The mummy had a nordic bone structure and reddish-blonde or brown hair. It was wrapped in a woolen blanket or coat of many colored threads. Hence, one could immediately infer it was similar to the sweaters, blankets, shawls and coats commonly produced in Ireland and Scotland. From this mummy I believe that we can deduce the Scythians-Goths-Germanic people's generally appearance at that time, which was Caucasian and their culture bearing links to Israel, including 'clothing of blends of many colors.' The above, which I linked with the mummy discovery in northeastern China, may be thin, I'll admit, but its seemed consistent with the great migration of the Sacae-Scythian-Goth-Germanic people into Eurasia and, thereafter, into central and western Europe. Also, I am careful not to speak loosely regarding 'Hebrew' and 'Israel.'

    • @enricomanno8434
      @enricomanno8434 Рік тому

      @@lucatampellini9734 Yes indeed

    • @enricomanno8434
      @enricomanno8434 Рік тому +5

      ​@@johnsavers1168 Pure speculation and very biased Hebrew centric approach to the history
      The chronology doesn't match

    • @szapemi
      @szapemi Рік тому +1

      In Eastern steppe empires there is a tradition of dual leadership, so Attila did not kill his brother!

  • @davidrowsell4603
    @davidrowsell4603 Рік тому +1

    Could I suggest that in the battle maps you use the internationally recognised symbols to differentiate infantry from cavalry, otherwise good.

  • @N_Sbn_Ur
    @N_Sbn_Ur Рік тому +2

    Nicely done, but one mention about the visual effects on battle map. Why there are no differences between different types of units, archers, light/heavy infantry and cavalry, romans and their allies? At least minimum differences should be. In rest gj!!

  • @Glorytolordkartikeya
    @Glorytolordkartikeya Рік тому +1

    Can you do Sassanids vs Huns? No one has covered it so far with cinematics from total war.

  • @banglekinh6984
    @banglekinh6984 Рік тому +4

    It's nicely done, thank you bro. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @JurajSzeman
    @JurajSzeman 9 місяців тому +1

    Who is burgund Warrior in the battle

  • @ramtin5152
    @ramtin5152 Рік тому +8

    It was so EPIC
    I enjoyed every minute of it
    I don't know which battle you're planning to cover next but please consider covering the battle of Anglon 543
    It's highly underrated

  • @BoundInChains
    @BoundInChains 10 місяців тому +1

    Really intriguing. ❤

  • @philippeverwaerde3910
    @philippeverwaerde3910 Рік тому +7

    Well , to me, that's a new version of History here. The Franks played a role on Aetius side. You describe them mostly as ennemies.. Never heard that before. Knowing the benefit the Franks got from the output of this battle I am surprised by this new version.

    • @AdituLaudisMMXXI
      @AdituLaudisMMXXI  Рік тому +1

      I believe there were two factions inside the Frankish realm. One which sided with the puppet placed by Atilla

    • @brunodahli2481
      @brunodahli2481 Рік тому +1

      It's a modern Anglo-Saxon version of the story, with the Franks never being well presented on principle (just like the French in the movie "Dunkirk"). As history is not a science ..; moreover, historically, the location of the Catalan fields is arbitrary. And these are not Romans, but Gallo-Romans. Moreover, the francs could naturally be more easily qualified as Belgians ("Gauls"), than as Germans. It's just a question of point of view, given the concrete lack of material for the origin of the francs (which means 'free'; I don't think there was only one free tribe in the Germans ..; and men released from the Roman yoke would have much more reason to call themselves "free men" - in the emancipated sense, It makes more sense from an anthropological point of view ).

  • @_pajdo_
    @_pajdo_ Рік тому +1

    Was illness or poison that stopped Attila?

  • @mesamesa-pt3ut
    @mesamesa-pt3ut Рік тому +3

    Mulțumesc pentru acest material!

    • @ronaldmessina4229
      @ronaldmessina4229 5 місяців тому +1

      Anglosajón anglosajón anglosajón pero qué siempre pasa con el idioma que aquí se utiliza?😢😢 el anglosajón no 👎 tiene nada de la gracia necesaria para hacer traducciones, en cambio el idioma que aquí se utiliza es completamente válido para hacerse entender mundialmente ❤😊

  • @pilomalik9696
    @pilomalik9696 Рік тому +1

    Good video brother. One constructive criticism. X is for infantry / is for cavalry. According to your map everyone is on foot.

  • @UprightoneNoble-nu3wx
    @UprightoneNoble-nu3wx Рік тому +2

    Very good!!! Well done!!!

  • @aymenberhili8218
    @aymenberhili8218 Рік тому +1

    Wow how does Total war Attila run so well on your pc ?

  • @aranykert
    @aranykert Рік тому +9

    From the Hungarian side it was the fall of the Roman Empire. After one week of bloody battle in constant rain, the loss was tremendous on both sides. The gothic ally of the romans lost their king and they left the battlefield. Next morning no Army was standing against each other. There were three days waiting on the battlefield without fight and Atilla started to retreat as the Romans did the same. This is all fiction in the video!

    • @attilatasciko4817
      @attilatasciko4817 Рік тому

      Ez az adása egy bunkónak , nem más mint lejáratásunk . Stb...

  • @caeciliusmetellus3038
    @caeciliusmetellus3038 Рік тому +1

    the between squences are only grafics without any content.

  • @janibeg3247
    @janibeg3247 Рік тому +11

    the battle weakened the Huns. Attila died two years later and his "empire" was no more within 18 years.

    • @gaborbaki6983
      @gaborbaki6983 Рік тому +1

      AVARIZTAN empire 490-803 : danmark to kaukazus hill

    • @DarkKhagan
      @DarkKhagan Рік тому

      @janibeg3247
      The Western Romans didn't fare any better...A few years after the Catalaunian battle of 451 CE.
      Aetius was summoned by Emperor Valentinian III to the Imperial Palace in Ravenna to report on financial matters in 454 CE. When Aetius informed about the state of the treasury, suddenly the emperor rose from the throne and began to accuse Aetius of accusations of acting against him. He accused him of losing his throne rights in the Eastern Empire because of him, and now Aetius sought to take power from him in Ravenna. Then the emperor stood up and hit the Roman commander in the head several times on the head, killing him on the spot. Aetius’ comrades shared his fate.
      The death of Flavius ​​Aetius, baptized as the “the last of the Romans”, definitely meant no chance of rebuilding the Western Roman Empire and led Rome to the abyss. Procopius reports that the emperor, after killing Aetius, was to ask a certain Roman whether he had made the right decision by removing Aetius; he would answer: “Good or bad, I don’t know that, but I know you have cut off your right hand with your left.”
      The western empire suffered several Gothic invasions and, in AD 455, was sacked by Vandals. Rome continued to decline after that until AD 476 when the western Roman Empire came to an end.

    • @dr.d.j.laszlo
      @dr.d.j.laszlo 10 місяців тому

      And what about the Hungarian Kingdom which was a heir of Attila? It survived for centuries on while the Roman Empire collapsed in 476???

  • @marschallhistory3286
    @marschallhistory3286 Рік тому +1

    Ich habe mir diese Schlacht bereits im kommentarbereich der Schlacht an der Milvinischen Brücke gewünscht. Ich denke nicht das dieses Video auf meinem Wunsch entstanden ist aber trotzdem danke.

    • @AdituLaudisMMXXI
      @AdituLaudisMMXXI  Рік тому

      I take the viewers suggestions, and there are many more waiting :)

    • @balibambosz333
      @balibambosz333 Рік тому

      - Tisztelt voster77 hh! Atila itt van eltemetve a városi stand kerítésénél,az áruház parkolója alatt. (Megnézheti!)

  • @istvanhuni7794
    @istvanhuni7794 Рік тому +7

    One year after the battle, the Huns were already at the walls of Rome. This was painted in fresco in the Vatican. Unfortunately, it gives bad knowledge.

  • @GeogeOprescu-kh6uf
    @GeogeOprescu-kh6uf 3 місяці тому

    Very interesting images we can see how the battle developed .

  • @pickleballer1729
    @pickleballer1729 Рік тому +5

    Given the confusion, lack of clear goals, repeated engagements with various allies, etc., most wars seem to me like little more than a harsh and inefficient method of population control.

    • @rudolfborsics6608
      @rudolfborsics6608 Рік тому +1

      Most of Earth was empty. This was a long time before Paul Ehrlichs book "Population Bomb"

  • @allenhamilton6688
    @allenhamilton6688 Рік тому +2

    On the battle map you show all units as infantry. You need to distinguish which is which.

  • @jason200912
    @jason200912 Рік тому +3

    Doesn't a solid wedge cav charge only bottleneck your own cav and run them into their own horses. A hollow or mostly hollow edge shape would be much better

    • @mcsmash4905
      @mcsmash4905 Рік тому

      but then it has no mass

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 Рік тому

      @@mcsmash4905 why would you want your comrade ramming into your back. That's kinda gay and will cause your horse to panic

  • @James_Blazer
    @James_Blazer Рік тому +1

    Incredible as usual

  • @stevensrhester8594
    @stevensrhester8594 Рік тому +5

    Hind sight being 20-20, Attila would have accomplish a decisive defeat on the Romans if he could of further drew him into open territory. As it was Attila stopped and encamped a mile or so into open country. The Romans had their backs to restricted terrain and thus were protected from encirclement. If they had moved further into open territory then the exceptional Hun cavalry would have been able to surround them and cut them to pieces. War is always full of what ifs, but as I said I would have encamped farther away from the Romans and force them to come to him. This would have most surely of happened since the Romans were the ones perusing.

  • @denvercolorado811
    @denvercolorado811 Рік тому

    awesome video man

  • @dutchhoke6555
    @dutchhoke6555 Рік тому +5

    Stunning representation of the scale of this and such
    (LARGER ?)
    engagements.
    Thwarting Attila made perfect sense if the objective was restoring this territory to Rome-
    AND the empire would not reach critical mass at home.

  • @sergeystepanyan1226
    @sergeystepanyan1226 Рік тому

    great video with details!

  • @raymondhall3682
    @raymondhall3682 Рік тому +2

    It was very problematical to follow the events on the "reference map" as all the units from both sides appearing on it where misrepresented as infantry ("X") as some were actually cavalry ("/"). Distinguishing between the cavalry units and the infantry units and where they were located relative to each other by using the appropriate icons would have helped explain better how this battle unfolded.

  • @FrontlinePros
    @FrontlinePros Рік тому +1

    Great cinematic story telling.

  • @istvanhuni7794
    @istvanhuni7794 Рік тому +19

    Before the Battle of Catalonia, the Huns had already driven the Romans out of Pannonia. As early as 387, Rome surrendered to the Huns to Attila's father, Bendegúz. Both Rome and Constantinople paid taxes to the Huns.

    • @balibambosz333
      @balibambosz333 Рік тому +2

      istvanhuni! -Ennek a pár leírt sornak,maradtak,tárgyi,feltáratlan emlékei,itt a föld alatt.A Polgármester úr betiltotta, az Atila fürdője,vagy Atila temetkezése,stb részletes vizsgálatát.

    • @jakmachine9279
      @jakmachine9279 Рік тому

      کیرم تو کون هر چی هون و هون‌پرست

    • @resentfuldragon
      @resentfuldragon Рік тому +2

      Also after the battle the huns raided italy, the battle was ultimately a delaying action instead of a strategic victory.

    • @ravenalbj
      @ravenalbj Рік тому

      Attila's father name was Mundus.

    • @Холмсшерлоченный
      @Холмсшерлоченный 8 місяців тому

      Отца Аттилы звали Мунзук .

  • @truckingmogul3254
    @truckingmogul3254 Рік тому +2

    Great video my friend! Historical battle that changed the course of human history! Keep up the great work

    • @AdituLaudisMMXXI
      @AdituLaudisMMXXI  Рік тому

      Thank you man!

    • @edithuszka3324
      @edithuszka3324 Рік тому +1

      @@AdituLaudisMMXXI The only probem here is : The huns von this batle because the romans diapeared overnight, therefore the huns did not find the in the early morning. LOOK AFTER THE RIGHT HISTORY. Attila lost the batle = Tis is hapened the other way around.!

    • @адикфлодер
      @адикфлодер 11 місяців тому

      @@AdituLaudisMMXXI харош мультики показывать.
      эту битву народов описали Францисканские монахи наблюдавшие за ней с холма.
      против 150 нахов во главе с Атиллой из племени гунов. рим выставил 1 миллион солдат. по 300 тыс от рима от галлов и готтов и через 3 дня за счет числености римский генерал Аврелий хотел их окружить зажав к реке Кельн в германии нынешей это. Атилла угадав его план ночью перевел армию через кельн и захватил крепость позади себя осел там а римская армия не решилась пойти вслед за нахами( Аланы Гунны Викинги Англы варяги это все разные названия одного и того же народа с кавказа. Нахов. ведущих свой род от предка Ноха. ( библейского Ноя .Ноаха)
      Атилла послал за подмогой на родину вестника и через год к нему прибыло еще 250 тыс Нахов. их в европе знают как 1авар- это переводится как пришел пожить. на время. вот там и был воплощен план Барбаросса. 3 удара в разные точки чтоб не дать Риму как раньше обьединиться в миллионную армию как при Колотуанской битве.
      к тому же пока атилла был в европе на его родину напали Сарматы и нахам пришлось часть войск отсылать на кавказ чтоб обезопасить родину и генералы Курмих и Басих с сыном Атиллы Динцигом через Азовское море вернулись и истребили акациров-сарматов напавших на аланию а потом совершили поход за каспий и там тоже разогнали их логово и после этого про них никто слышал в мире.
      на самом деле Атилла и Нахи даже не хотели покорять ни рим ни европу они просто преследовали ост-Готов которые вместе со славянами первые напали на аланию перейдя за реки Тина и Итиль на кавказ 600 тыс войском и когда нахи погнали их со своей земли то славяне спрятались выжившие в полуночных землях на севере а ост-готы бежали к западным готам спастись преследуемые гуном Атилой со 150 тыс армией Нахов-Аланов. вот так они и дошли до запада и рим встал на их пути. но после того как рим нанес серьезный урон нахам то они уже решили поквитаться и с Римом. и так и сделали. потом.

  • @politecatim
    @politecatim Рік тому +2

    More about Spartan, please :)

  • @zsuzsannadrraab2660
    @zsuzsannadrraab2660 2 місяці тому

    Én úgy tudtam,hogy egy nagyon durva pestis járvány tört ki,amely mindkét hadat megtizedelte.Tulajdonképpen úgymond "győztes" egyikük sem lett.Jelentosen kozrejátszott mindket birodalom bukásában.Gardonyi Géza, "A láthatatlan ember"c. regényében gyönyörűen ír errol a csatarol.Nagyon jó a film!

    • @ildikomakany3522
      @ildikomakany3522 2 місяці тому +1

      Gárdonyi műve költői és szép. De Attila serege maradt ott a csatatéren, a másik elment - menekült. Az marad, aki győz. Ez logikus. Aetiust később kivégezték. Ez volt a jutalom a győzelemért?

    • @zsuzsannadrraab2660
      @zsuzsannadrraab2660 2 місяці тому

      @@ildikomakany3522 Így igaz.Rómaban kivegzessel nem jutalmaztak győzelemért.

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam Рік тому +18

    While its true that there was some controversy about the origin of the Huns, the consensus after recent decades is that they were Turks of Oghuric affiliation, mostly based on credible studies confirming that the vast majority of attested Hunnic names, as well as all Hunnic successor clans are of evident Oghur Turkic origin.
    All Hunnic tribes (entirely Oghur Turkic) :
    Akatziri, Onogurs, Utigurs, Sabirs, Bulgars, Saragurs, Kutrigurs, Barsils, Balanjars
    Recorded Hunnic names of Turkic origin :
    Aigan = moon prince; from Turkic aï & can
    Alp Ilutuer / Ilteber = heroic chieftain; from Turkic alp & iltäbär
    Althias = six; from Turkic Alti
    Akkagas = white rock; from Turkic ak & kayač
    Atakam = elder shaman; from Turkic ata & kam
    Balach = calf; from Turkic Malaq
    Berik = strong; from Turkic Berık
    Basik = governor; from Turkic Bârsiğ
    Bleda = wise; from Turkic Bildä
    Bochas = either gullet; from Turkic Boğuz; or bull, from Buqa
    Dengizich = ocean-like, heavenly; from Turkic teɲez & dêɲri; or, more simply, great lake
    Donat / Donatu = horse; from Turkic Yonat
    Edeco = good; from Turkic Ädgü
    Ellac = to rule; from Turkic el & lä
    Emmedzur = horse lord; from Turkic Ämäcur
    Eskam / Esqam = companion of the shaman; from Turkic Eŝkam
    Hereka / Kreka = pure princess; from Turkic Arïqan
    Ernakh / Hernac = small man, heroic man; from Turkic Ernäk
    Iliger = prince man; from Turkic ilig & är
    Karadach = black mountain; from Turkic Qaradağ
    Karaton = black cloak; from Turkic Qarâton
    Kursik = either noble; from Turkic Kürsiğ; or belt-bearer, from Qurŝiq
    Kutilzis = blessed herald; from Turkic kut & elči
    Mundzuk = bead; from Turkic Munčuq
    Oebarsius / Aybars = moon leopard, from Turkic Aïbârs; or dun leopard, from oy & bars
    Oldogan / Odolgan = either red falcon; from Turkic al & dogan; or chubby, from Tolgun
    Oktar / Uptar = brave; from Turkic Öctär
    Ruga / Rua = wise man; from Turkic Ögä
    Turgun = still/calm; from Turkic Turkun
    Uldin = six; from Turkic Alti
    Zolban = shepherd star; from Turkic Čolpan.

    • @franklinfisher497
      @franklinfisher497 Рік тому +1

      i'm shocked, another turk claiming somebody else was a turk, they were not turks, they came from the Xiongnu Empire. They were not Turks, any credible unbiased source will tell you that they were NOT.

    • @tnrz5696
      @tnrz5696 Рік тому

      Oghur tam olarak ne demek ?

    • @gaborbaki6983
      @gaborbaki6983 Рік тому +1

      ATTILA-etele =volga river birth ..europe hun Hun army 70% oguz-onogur ..15% mongol et 15% mandzsu-tunguz-yuezhi ...turco-mogollar armada

    • @latakicsi2183
      @latakicsi2183 Рік тому +4

      according the turboturks everybody is turk...anyhow huns ruled the stepps way before turks emerged so to turks were one of the vassal of them

    • @gaborbaki6983
      @gaborbaki6983 Рік тому

      @@latakicsi2183 idiots -dzsukell... Hun langue ..old-türk...old-bolgar....Hun armada 60% türk-oguz ....et 20% mongol et 20% tunguz-mandzu/kushan-kusu- bird totem/... sztyeppe-riders unió

  • @pa5287
    @pa5287 Рік тому

    Enjoyed.👍👍

  • @malgusvitiate7002
    @malgusvitiate7002 Рік тому +19

    Great video as always! As a follow-up to this battle, please do a video on the Sack of Aquileia (452 C.E.), where Attila gets his revenge on Aetius by razing the city of Aquileia (considered to be the Venice of the Roman Empire before Venice was established as a city), and causing a massive famine to break out in the Italian peninsula due to his plundering of northern Italy. You should also do more non-historical battles, such as the Ostrogoths vs. the Jutes for Total War: Attila, Odrysian Kingdom vs. Massilia for Total War: Rome II, Otomo vs. Hattori for Total War: Shogun 2, and Zheng Jiang/Tai Bandits vs. Sun Jian/Wu for Total War: Three Kingdoms.

    • @resentfuldragon
      @resentfuldragon Рік тому +3

      Yeah, too many people see this battle as a roman victory over the huns when in reality it was a last ditch effort to survive that ultimately didn't stop the huns from doing what they wanted.
      This battle delayed the huns, but attila came back later.

    • @balibambosz333
      @balibambosz333 Рік тому

      - Valami nincs rendben! A másik videó határozottan állítja,hogy Atila 452-ben meghalt. Eltemették. Erre később olyan választ kaptam,hogy 455-ben halt meg! A kitett videó,igaz legyen! Atila 62 évesen halt meg?

  • @Pablojesusnazareno
    @Pablojesusnazareno Місяць тому

    Ohhhhhhh! Muy interesante! Historias poco difundidas. Grácias por subirlo.

  • @nikolaykolev1438
    @nikolaykolev1438 Рік тому +37

    The Huns did not win,but they were not defeated.The Romans were not defeated,but they could not win.

    • @timothylee2772
      @timothylee2772 Рік тому +4

      It was more of a stalemate than a victory on either side.

    • @nikolaykolev1438
      @nikolaykolev1438 Рік тому

      @@timothylee2772 Yes,start with development,without a complete result.

    • @timothylee2772
      @timothylee2772 Рік тому +2

      @@nikolaykolev1438 Actually, in the game of chess, we call that a draw. Had the Huns won the battle outright, European history would have been different.

    • @nikolaykolev1438
      @nikolaykolev1438 Рік тому +1

      @@timothylee2772 Their very appearence shows that the history of Europe has become different.

    • @dr.d.j.laszlo
      @dr.d.j.laszlo Рік тому +1

      Only one question: who stayed on the battlefield after the clash and who left?? The answer is: the Huns stayed and the Romans left. More questions???

  • @seaninflorida9741
    @seaninflorida9741 Рік тому +4

    So, the battle of the Catalaunian Plains was NOT the fall of Atilla the Hun.

  • @UltorCXXVIII
    @UltorCXXVIII 8 місяців тому +1

    Wonderful channel! Thank you Sir!

  • @АрхангелМихаи
    @АрхангелМихаи Рік тому +5

    Attila is still alive, in the person of the Chuvash people (Suvars) they have preserved their language, but he is dying, his name is translated as father, father of peoples

    • @sandortoth7344
      @sandortoth7344 Рік тому +3

      A nevét Isten ostora- ként maradt fenn. A királyok Királya. 13 koronával temették el, hármas koporsóban, a hazájában, Magyarországon.

    • @Холмсшерлоченный
      @Холмсшерлоченный 8 місяців тому

      Угр - Аттила никакого отношения не имеет к чувашам , удмурты , ханты , коми , мари - гунны !

  • @antonychipman3088
    @antonychipman3088 Рік тому +1

    best animations… felt like I was there

  • @chucklynch6523
    @chucklynch6523 Рік тому +3

    Great video. The picture of Attila appears to very appropriate, since the Huns had been in Europe for several generations and no doubt did a little mixing with the natives.

    • @AdituLaudisMMXXI
      @AdituLaudisMMXXI  Рік тому

      Thanks Chuck!

    • @iigel352
      @iigel352 Рік тому +2

      Not at all. According to the contemporary Roman historian Priscus, Attila as well as the Huns had a typical north east asian look.
      The Huns consisted of two groups, the ruling class and the ruled. The ruling class was small numbers of those east asian hordes such as Mongol, Manchu, Xianbei or Xiongnu (FYI. there were so many bigger or smaller east asian nomad nations throughout central and north east asia)while the ruled were the people who were gradually annexed by the Huns on the way to the west. The history says that the Romans didn't know where the Huns came from and this give us very important clue. If they were from Turkey or somewhere near, Romans could write so. There were nothing mysterious about the huns in that case.
      It is really funny that the western historians are trying their absolute best to ignore the record from Priscus, one of the most important and reliable sources regarding the huns as well as attila, and people still think Attila was some sort of middle eastern lol. Do you guys feel shame or get your ego hurt if you guys were conquered and destoryed twice by the North East Asians? I wonder. Is that the reason?
      In short, were the huns Turkish? No, turkish people were one of those who ruled by the huns. were they inflused by the huns? Yes the turkish were culturally influenced by the huns so they still have some east asian heritages but that's all about it. You know, Vietnamese were ruled by French for a while and they were culturally influenced by French, however that doesnt make the French or Joan d'arc as their ancestor, nor have French Vietnamese look but why portray Atiila as caucaisan? Is that some sort of joke?

    • @gyulaerdei3180
      @gyulaerdei3180 10 місяців тому

      Priscos rhetor - Atillát...folyamatosan Szkitának nevezi ..... !
      :)
      - mint ahogy a Magyarokat is Szkitának hivják ... !
      :)

  • @Anastasia.Sohobos.-di3oo
    @Anastasia.Sohobos.-di3oo Рік тому

    Great 😀

  • @dr.d.j.laszlo
    @dr.d.j.laszlo Рік тому +8

    There is only one question: after the battle who owns the battlefield? In this case these were the Huns and not the Romans. The Romans left the battlefield that is: they left their deads and woundeds together with their assets, treasuries etc there for the Huns. At that time - later on too, even to our present days - it is important for an army to take care for the dead, and woundeds of theirs and not to leave them for the will and mercy of the enemy. So no doubt: the winner was Attila and also were the Huns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Sergio.333
    @Sergio.333 19 днів тому

    Hasta allá llegó Atila el huno??? 😮

  • @mango2005
    @mango2005 Рік тому +2

    I dont think this battle was the knockout-blow it used to be seen as. Aetius didnt risk a pursuit. Atilla was still able to invade Italy the following year.

  • @lucatampellini9734
    @lucatampellini9734 Рік тому +1

    La battaglia non fu in Catalogna, ma a Chatulons. Il nome si assomiglia ma geograficamente sono 2 posti relativamente lontani.

  • @magdikaolasz9568
    @magdikaolasz9568 Рік тому +10

    Atilla's calculations worked. The falcon statue, the gate and the huge bonfire strengthened the Huns and their allies and weakened the opponents. When Atilla reached the battle line of the Gepid left wing with his archer bodyguards, he immediately saw that the blood-drunk Gepids and their Germanic allies were slaughtering the helpless legionnaires to the last man. He was relieved. , when it was reported that Aetius was alive. The deathly silence after the noise of battle was broken by the thunderous shouts of triumph from the victory-drunk Hun and allied fighters. Victory, victory! Blessings Atilla! Blessings Atilla!
    To this day, the majority of Western and Hungarian historians describe the Battle of Catalunya primarily based on Jordanes' chronicle, The History of the Goths. The chronicle was written by the Gothic bishop of Ravenna a century after the battle, and in his biased writing he clearly wanted to present the Goths and the Romans in a favorable light. Thus, we must significantly revise the clash that took place on the battlefield of Catalanaum on July 5, 451. According to this, at the end of the battles, the superiority of the Huns compared to the strength of the enemy was not three to one, but rather five to one!
    The Hun camp was swimming in happiness. And the surviving warriors of the opponent thought with dread of the next day's battle, which would bring their complete annihilation. It was reported to Aetius that after the Alans, the Gallic Zealots and the Franks, the Visigoths had also failed him! If Attila attacks again, he will easily finish us off, said Aetius. He watched intently in the direction of the Hun camp behind the falcon hill. However, no battle preparations were heard there. A Hun horn sounded, signaling an embassy. Three eagle hunters arrived. Aetius immediately received them. The envoy handed over a letter in which Atilla had a short runic message: "May the blessing of Üstengri be upon you. We will meet in Rome next year." Later I will tell you about what happened in Rome!

    • @tenzingngedon3502
      @tenzingngedon3502 Рік тому +2

      Almost......Jordanes unvalid,hated huns and Atila Sanyjü......and lived 150 years later,than him.Priscos was valid,visited Atila more than once at his summer wooden palace.......

    • @peterpim6260
      @peterpim6260 9 місяців тому

      Seems to me a hun-biased version. Well, I was not there, but reported is, that Attila finally retreated ,not actually in a rout but a retreat it was. And a retreat ist not a a victory . The battle broke the hun`s reputation of being undefeatable, so it did.

  • @bobharford5643
    @bobharford5643 Рік тому

    Too loud background music. Way too loud

  • @RickGamer123
    @RickGamer123 Рік тому +4

    I do love watching the huge army on the move.

  • @memyselfandi9365
    @memyselfandi9365 3 місяці тому

    Growing up in Belgium that battle still resonates to this day, people are quite aware that had the Huns won Europe would be a very different place today...The strange thing though is that nobody knows where these legendary Catalaunian plains are in France..

  • @k9uominiecani59
    @k9uominiecani59 10 місяців тому +17

    Incorrect analysis. The battle was won by Rome and its allies, so much so that Attila retreated to his camp and had a wooden pyre built to commit suicide and avoid being captured by the subsequent Roman attack. Except that Ezio let him escape with his men for political, strategic or otherwise unclear reasons today. He probably did not trust some of his allies, who in battle could join the Huns by betraying.

  • @piggyback8367
    @piggyback8367 Рік тому +1

    Yes.. total war games is the best for depicting historical battle

  • @gyulaerdei3180
    @gyulaerdei3180 9 місяців тому +2

    Ha Aetius győzött volna akkor egy évvel később, Atilla - nem jutott volna úgy rómáig , mint kés - a vajban... - úgy hogy Rómába ...
    be sem kellett mennie ..... !
    Róma kegyelmet kért, és kapott - Atillától.... !
    :)

    • @gyulaerdei3180
      @gyulaerdei3180 9 місяців тому

      Bizonyos - adó terhe mellett !
      ..... !
      Kegyelmet gyakorolt..... ! *
      Róma püspöke...fogadta .....
      "Kiméld meg ezt a várost...
      ...őseink, apostolaink csontjai nyugszanak itt " ! ..... *

  • @klint4116
    @klint4116 Рік тому

    Music please

  • @elhunoatila1
    @elhunoatila1 Рік тому +13

    🤣🤣🤣...¿Cómo que la caída de Atila? 🤣🤣🤣...¿Qué hizo al año siguiente Atila en el Norte de Italia?
    😎

    • @balibambosz333
      @balibambosz333 Рік тому +1

      - 452 vagy 453 Atila halála.(Most nem írom ide,hogyan halt meg Atila.) Nem csatában esett el! A következő években Atila,egy fa szarkofágban,a temetkezési kamrájában,(A mai Áruház Busz parkoló alatt pihent.) - Tisztelt ellhunoatila nem godolja komolyan,hogy halott Atila csatázni járt? Valami nincs rendben az egész ide kitett videóval? A videóban minden fordítva van,mint ahogyan történt...-Na mind 1! megnéztem!

    • @elhunoatila1
      @elhunoatila1 Рік тому +4

      @@balibambosz333 A videó az események tipikus római változatán alapul. Kár, hogy a hunok nem hagytak írásokat.
      Úgy gondolom, hogy a csata technikai döntetlen és taktikai visszalépés volt.
      Róma annyira megtépázott, hogy a következő évben már nem tudta megvédeni Itáliát Attila támadásától, így a katalóniai csatát a hunok győzelme jelentette.

    • @balibambosz333
      @balibambosz333 Рік тому

      @@elhunoatila1 - A leírásnál,fordításnál,úgy lehet olvasni,hogy a Gótok Királyát a lovak halálra taposták..(Éjjel sötétben leesett a lóról) Később megtalálták,de már halott volt... Valami más is történt,mert a Gótok elvonultak új királyt választani...Vagy összevesztek a rómaiakkal? Aecio római hadvezér,éjjel menekülés közben a hunok táborába tévedt.A hunok nem bántották, az hitték tárgyalni jött...(Korábban Aeciot a hunok is nevelték...) A hunok ismerték,és Ő is ismerte, a hun szokásokat...A történészek vitatkoznak,hogy volt csata? Vagy nem történt meg?Furcsa feljegyzés,hogy a hunok a csatatéren maradnak..."Farkasként üvöltenek,"(Idéztem), dobolnak,és vonyítanak."Néha lóra kapnak,és kilovagolnak...Keresték az ellenséget...(Ezt külön is megkérdeztük az előadótól,hogy mit jelent? ) Miért dobolnak,miért vonyítanak? Ha nem volt csata,nem lehet döntetlen...A csata előtt az ellenfél,rómaiak,és a Gótok is lelépett:...A Hunok még 3 napig maradtak...Várták a felvonuló ellenséget...De az nem történt meg...Kettes változat. Éjjel volt a csata! A Hunok szerettek éjjel,vagy Hajnalban csatázni...A hatalmas zavar, ,keveredés, az ellenfél táborában, a Hunok támadása idézte elő,hogy a lovak eltaposták a Gótok Királyát...A rómaiak jól látták,hogy a Gótok nélkül,számukra,megsemmisítő vereség várható. A Gótok bizonytalan szereplése,talán ,már a csata ,vagy a felvonulás után,Ők is azt gondolták,a római vezér, a Hunokkal tárgyal. Atila 452 vagy 453 körül halt meg...Nem engedték,hogy a megtalált temetkezését,közelről vizsgáljuk...Halott vezér,(Beteg vezér,) Nem csatázik...A vesztes csata után a Hunok,nem vezettek volna a következő évben nagyszabású hadjáratot Atila vezetésével Itáliába...Az évszámok is hibás lehet...De a teljes,gondos ,vizsgálatot,a megtalált tárgyakon,betiltották...Atila fürdőjére, mindenre,a Polgármester úr,két nagy dupla vas rácsot,két nagy vas láncot,és két hatalmas lakatot tett! Ha erre jár,távolról megnézheti...Ez van! Tilos az eseményeket,közelről vizsgálni!

    • @gyulaerdei3180
      @gyulaerdei3180 10 місяців тому

      ​​@@elhunoatila1- a hunok, már akkor irtak , amikor a legtöbb európai nép még nem is létezett..... !!! *
      :)

    • @gyulaerdei3180
      @gyulaerdei3180 10 місяців тому +2

      Legyőzte Rómát ! ! ! *
      Adót a vesztes szokott fizetni
      a győztesnek ! .....
      Ez a fő "baj Atilával....- Róma adót fizetett ! ! ! *
      :)

  • @modarhijji2906
    @modarhijji2906 9 місяців тому

    Music is too loud !!

  • @magdikaolasz9568
    @magdikaolasz9568 Рік тому +7

    Atilla achieved his goal. The Visigoth king Theodoric fell, and the Visigoths, Bugunds, and Geman allies fled during the night after the battle, so Atilla returned to Hungary. Aetius' battered legionary infantry would have had no chance of successfully confronting Attila's horse-archers. His most capable corps was formed by the Visigothic cavalry, organized in the Hun style, who left him alone. He had no choice but to admit the futility of continuing the battle and withdrew. You don't need to be a military expert to understand what happened and who won. According to this, the superiority of the Huns at the end of the battles compared to the strength of the opponent was not three to one, but rather five to one. We do not know of another example of Atilla's self-restraint in history. What kind of attraction and calculation could have led the great king of the Huns to retreat? Writes the Frenchman Eric Deschodt in his 2006 work analyzing Atilla's reign and military actions with exceptional objectivity and expertise. Atilla spared Aetius' life because he would fall in the event of a collision. This was the reason for Atilla's restraint!

  • @valerytoshev1527
    @valerytoshev1527 3 місяці тому +1

    This video presents the events surrounding the Battle of Catalonia in a completely implausible and contrary to historical truth, something that has been done for several centuries. Attila was the emperor of the Hon-Bulgarian Empire. Aetius, Attila's uncle was appointed governor of Bai Galij (Gallia), which at that time was already a vassal country of Hon-Bulgar. The Hon-Bulgarians are not mercenaries, but masters of these lands, their allies are the fraternal tribes of the Burgundians and Faranagi (Franks), speaking the Thriok/Thracian/Tiurko-Bulgarian language. This is evident from the names of Lutetia (Leutheish - City of the Dragon), Paris (from Barrage - Dragon), Seine from Su-eni (Great River), Toulouse (Toulus - Capital City), etc. But falling under the influence of the Talmudists, taught to become an independent ruler of the whole of Gaul, Haiji Yauchi (Aetius) decided with the help of the Alans, the Visigoths and their leader Theodoric to raise a riot against his master and nephew Attila. The so-called Catalunya field was not called that before the battle, it was called Chulem, and on its summit there was a Tengri shrine of the god of herbivores Saban Thriok, from whose name the name of Champagne arose in the future. After the battle on June 21-22, 451, due to the fact that the most Visigoths and Ostrogoths of the two warring armies died there, this field was called "Hud Alan" ("Gothic field" in Thracian-Bulgarian language), which phonetically changes among the local Franks, Burgundians and Celts (Gauls), it took the form of the Catalan field. Attila emerges victorious from the battle. And this is evident in his subsequent campaign in Italy in 452. There he captured Ak avil (White Fortress, Aquileia), destroyed it and forced its population to move to the nearby islands in the sea, so as not to execute them on land according to Bulgarian law. There they built the city of Benedict, today called Venice. The city was built with the help of Bulgarian builders in the sea with millions of wooden supports from larch trees that grow only in Bulgarian Siberia. How were these millions of trees transported from Siberia 4000 km away. from Venice, let Western historiography explain it without lying. How would this city have looked if Attila had been defeated??!

  • @alrengamao2577
    @alrengamao2577 Рік тому +2

    Attila had found HIS MATCH on AETIUS...

    • @aranykert
      @aranykert 10 місяців тому

      they were friends when they were teenagers!

  • @jorgd.1433
    @jorgd.1433 День тому

    übersetzungsfehler : es muß heißen "katalaunische Felder" und nichr "katalanischen Ebenen"!

  • @PemaDordzse
    @PemaDordzse Рік тому +4

    Ha jobb filmet akarsz, akkor megérted a Róma által elnyomott királyságok csatlakozását is.

  • @scourgeofgodattila579
    @scourgeofgodattila579 Рік тому +12

    Modern sources, along with Hyun Jin Kim, are now of the opinion that the result of the battle was Hun victory. Jordanes' account has been proven wrong. And your still using Jordanes' narration shows that you're using refuted references.

    • @ErikDayne
      @ErikDayne Рік тому +12

      A difference of opinion and being proven wrong are two very different things

    • @skavanagh2778
      @skavanagh2778 Рік тому +13

      I'm sure we can receive a unbiased opinion from an account called "scourge of God Atilla"

    • @unholymessiah2583
      @unholymessiah2583 Рік тому +6

      Lmao cope. Western Rome and the Germanics destroyed the Huns.

    • @jellymop
      @jellymop Рік тому +2

      Reliable Sources hosted by SCOURGE OF GOD ATTILA

    • @danielbauer1879
      @danielbauer1879 Рік тому +1

      @@skavanagh2778 lol 😂

  • @baronghede2365
    @baronghede2365 Рік тому +1

    Fun Fact: they had a large number of Germanic tribe's man apart of the hun army, Blessed Be.

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam Рік тому +7

    Because the Huns managed to eliminate the king of their rivals and, most importantly, they had possession of the battlefield after the end of the battle, the outcome was likely a Hun victory.,
    Hyun Jin Kim (2013). The Huns, Rome and the Birth of Europe. Cambridge University Press. pp. 76-77

  • @ShoKasugi77
    @ShoKasugi77 Рік тому

    En kaliteli kanallardan birisiniz tebrik ediyorum emeğinize sağlık. Verdiğiniz mesajlardan bizimde ülke olarak almamız gerekenler var. Alabilen almıştır eminim. Ne diyelim anlayana sivrisinek saz..