Ruben Alvarez Recounts Story Behind Viral Video Exposing Fake Black Belt
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2015
- Danny Segura speaks to jiujitsu black belt Ruben Alvarez about the story behind the viral video of him exposing a fake black belt in his academy.
Watch the full video of Alvarez exposing the alleged black belt here: • Video - Спорт
Why would someone pretend to be a black belt in a gym full of black belts??
TRI-PRO EDITS 1 sure... if you think bjj black belts area equivalent to combat veterans.
that something very stupid that i am still trying to figure out why and happens all the time. Those guys do not seem to think this works. Today my teacher was telling a story of one guy who went to his master class, a guy called pintinho who won many many titles in jiu jitsu, and sayd he invented a martial art and came to test it. So pintinho with a big smile tells him, nice, lets find out then. So the guy says, but i do not want to hurt you. Pintinho answered, do not worry, that fine, let ' s give it a try. 10 secound late you know the end of the story.
@@nicholashewett979 I disagree, some people are delusional. They want to live the dream, and the worst thing you can do to a dreamer is wake them up. The best thing you can do for a dreamer, is to wake them up. Elucidation is painful but necessary. But as far as combat vets, there is a world of difference between a war fighter and a martial artist. Neither is better, they are just different.
Mental Illness and personality disorder plays a very big part.
I have been wrestling and grappling in different forms for many years and I work in the Mental Health field.
A great deal of these people desire the recognition from people that they actually have a great deal of respect and admiration for. There are a few cases of fakes using their pathology to defraud others but in my experience there are more of them than not that are experiencing a mental illness of some sort.
This guy handled the issue fairly well.
It's always some kinda of mental illness..
"One day I might even be able to promote him to be a true black belt" Spoken like a true teacher of the arts
After seeing this, what Ruben did was totally reasonable. He actually seems like a genuine, nice guy
***** This guy made a mockery of the Black Belt, falsified his credentials, background, and relationships with great practitioners and teachers of BJJ, and utterly wasted Alvarez's time and the time of his students.
The lying guy isn't a five year old who is still learning, he's a grown man attempting to actively deceive people. In context of that, I find his actions very reasonable.
Timothy Gibson He's also a professional scam artist. He knows what he's doing. He pretended to be a tattoo artist as well, and i would bet money that wasn't his first scam either.
***** He really is.
XRay22AW Yessir.
***** if you know about any martial arts if you fake to be a black belt thats a big disrespect he's lucky he didn't get his butt kicked by him getting embarrassed that was what he deserve and he got lucky that happened
don't apologise for exposing a cheater I hate cheaters
Ruben Alvarez has a great mind set: not to judge immediately, to forgive, trying not to be confrontational....
ChrischrosBelgium very true ,he even said to the guy in the end that he can come back but needs to start from scratch . So the guy really wanted him to understand why it was wrong what he did by bullshitting the master
I personally know 2 black belts that wouldn't have been as nice as Ruben. He conducted himself as a professional, and a martial artist.
Steve Borelli
Jason Blaha?.
Thank you so much for doing this interview with Alvarez.
if you would have put ur hands on him...he comes back with a 9...your his bitch
no
+thetruth what if I have a 10?
"If he touched me he would have got a free lesson"
lolololol
Not me, I would've gone ham on him, thinking he was a black belt. Get excited for tapping him out the 1st time, 2nd time I'd realize something's wrong.
That fake is dangerous and insane. As a fake tatoo artist or a fake BJJ black belt he could have ruined peoples bodies for like. It's only a shame there was no crime. This guy needs to be taken off the streets before he decides to fake being a doctor or something. Good on you for calling him out.
Much respect to you for giving this man the benefit of the doubt and not thinking bad of this man for so many “off” attributes. It’s good to see that you didn’t just fly off the handle and call him out straight away. Shows how disciplined you really are. Good job when you finally did.
Thanks for the interview was really nice hearing the background to the story
***** Colombia papa!
Open Your Eyes he handled it like a jackass. Never waste energy on a noob. Say what you have to say and be done. Why would he threaten to ground and pound a guy who obviously couldn't defend himself against?
@@792bnz are you the fake black belt he called out ?
I've never understood why anyone would want to fake being a BJJ black belt. BJJ is one of the few martial arts where if you are faking, people are going to know right away. As soon as one of the students feels your game, they're going to know you're not a black belt.
Exactly right. So easy to spot a fake in a few minutes or less. If you tell me you were a high level boxer, I would know in minutes after you demo some punches & especially spar. How can someone think for a second they can fool someone. Even a bjj blue belt could spot a fake black belt. Just crazy.
BJJ at its finest. I'm still new and I see examples of chivalry like Ruben's every day. I was talking with one of the 'elder' students and jokingly said that the only reason I'd quit would be lack of money. He immediately exploded with a full game plan of how the instructor would still let me join and even if he didn't, they'd all arrange meetings with me to show me the techniques, as long as I stuck to the art.
I might as well work as a stripper as long as I don't have to quit BJJ. What a blessing.
I took BJJ for a few months like 5 years ago, I still remember shrimping.
IamKindness I've been training a month and even I know closed guard and shrimping 😂
Sean Martin It's one of the first things you learn, I'm pretty sure.
I have never taken BJJ and even i know that!
IamKindness yup that's the first
Shit. I got my blue in 2000 and havent trained in over 15 years and ill show you a perfect shrimp right now.
This guy knows how to tell a story. Thanks for exposing
"He would have touched me he would have got a free Jujitsu lesson" Best line ever😂😂😂😂
Hi
Ruben Alvarez seems like a really cool guy. Would love to train with him.
What a class act! The ego is a hell of a thing! I thought you handled it very well and was impressed that you didn't get physical to embarrass him and you even offered for him to come back as a white belt. There's nothing wrong with expressing passion and emotion as long as it's done properly, and I think Ruben did just that.
I just earned by Blue Belt; took me two and a half years for that belt. I just don’t understand the reason behind lying about stuff like this.
Ruben nailed it when he likened it to stolen valour.
Such a great guy. Lives up to his belt not only in skill, but also mentally.
He said in the oldschool days a blue belt locks the door and then the instructor beats the liar guy up. But why does it have to be a blue belt that locks the door? Cant a white belt or brown belt do it?
MaharlikaAWA Maybe white belts don't learn locks?
MaharlikaAWA I think that blue belts are the most dependent and sycophantic towards their instructors, not that I am not with my coaches but fighters become more independent over the years as they see many different instructors.
It is the blue belts job to lock the door whenever the instructor wants to beat someone up. It is part of earning your purple belt.
MaharlikaAWA Smurfs (that's how blue belts in brasil was called in 90's) is like "interns" or "wizard's apprentice" that's help in small things as clean the tatame and other things. White belts is more like does not exist at this situation.
MaharlikaAWA LOL at this thread. I didn't even catch the fact that he tasked a blue belt to lock the door.
For anyone wondering , you can see the video on daily motion , it’s not on UA-cam
I agree 100% with the way he handled the situation. Thank you for posting this interview giving Ruben the chance to explain himself
I wonder why he faked? Being a black belt, I at times wish i was a lower belt especially when I go to another club, then i dont need to prove anything. and can just learn and roll.
Ahh the struggle 😅😂😂
@@therebrand9018 A lot of people on facebook are criticizing ruben, but at the same time ruben put in the HARD WORK. Its a slap in the face to someone like alvarez.
I don't know Alvarez but from what I've watched in this video I think he's a good instructor. No line was crossed. He taught the dude a lesson that was sorely needed.
Great interview ! Thanks for sharing taking the time.
Great work, you are a roll model rubens alvarez, got my respect
Dear Sir,
I am down in Miami for school until December, having never thought of studying BJJ...I am deeply impressed with Mr. Alvarez and am seriously thinking of looking him up.
I hope your week is going well.
Holy shit that's nice to hear. You work so hard for something just for some guy to put your life's work to shame, it's hard not to get emotional. Thank you so much for saying that.
You did good. Thanks for the interview. Peace Brother.
A Truly sincere Instructor. You are shining now. Stay humble. A lesson learned.
Teachers like Ruben are true gentlemen and the reason martial arts will change the lives of young people for the better
i have no idea about black belts etc , but i watch the entire thing because what this guy was saying, sounds like a great guy
Danny, I am a 24 year military vet and have spent more than 42 months in the middle east Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Bahrain). Thanks for the kind words. I also watched UFC1 live as I was a teenager when that happened and have always been interested in BJJ. I have alot of issues from military service, psychological, failed marriage, so my act of self love lately as I am retiring from the military was to take up BJJ just for the health benefits and I love it. It's humbling yet true. It's rough physically so I can only hang about once every other day. I love the fact that it is pressure tested via rolling, that is what makes it the best, and I have only met the best people since I started. So I am a white belt, I absolutely respect Brazilian jiu jitsu, imo you are definitely not gonna fake your belt, it is like stolen valor, except you can test them right then and there. I have only been training a couple of months and I undrrstand basic drills like elbow escapes (shrimping), bridging, base, sweeps etc. I think you are absolutely fine in your response to a fake black belt. As a white belt I thank you because that guy could have been my first exposure to BJJ. So thank you.
I will never understand why people will fake being a BJJ blackbelt. Its like claiming to be a world renowned chef, but your food tastes like shit! Glad you called him out!
That guy faking the black belt got off VERY light. There was a time back in the day when they would have locked the doors to the dojo and beat the shit out of an imposter. Alvarez did nothing over the line.
2nd time i watched this.. so lucky i added him on facebook before he reached his limit, hes actually a seemingly awesome guy
Mr. Alvarez you did right for all that you've gone through, It's about respect period.
your the man brother I just got promoted to brown belt last week 8 years of getting my ass whipped you did the right thing by calling him out
The guy knows all the names to drop to get in the front door you would think he would know off the basics at least.
yeah so true
+MMA man I've been training kickboxing and mma for a few years now and walked into a place called shotokan street karate. I politely asked to spar some of the higher ranking students and knocked the wind out of one of there chest with a front kick to the chest. I hope the guy running it gets shut down.
Did you consider that its also that you're probably really good, or is it just that they sucked?
Sir, I'm currently a white belt in jiu-jitsu and I respect what you did!!! You're 100% right in the way you did it! I'm a former Soldier and Stolen Valor is the only thing that would effect my composer! You handled it right!
+Pabalon Spring assuming this is a serious question, as long as its unmarked its fine
If you aren't using it to get discounts and it has no unit / military designation. I would say its ok!
Yes he 100 percent handled it as a real bitch. Great job
Jessie Taylor
Same dude even if we're white belts the way I see it, its better than no belt (:
I'd be pissed too if i had been lied to for a week.
Yeah, this was something else. It wasn't a one off like how it looked like on the video.
It was a prolonged scenario where Ruben was brought for a ride.
Total respect for Ruben Alvarez. Good job man, awesome response and I would do the same in that situation.
I just watched the other video where you called the fakers bluff. I think you handled that extremely well, considering those belts are earned with sweat and blood. The fact that you left the door open for him is a true sign of the integrity you practice. Whipping his ass (as you mention might have happened at some schools) would not have been consistent with who you are- a teacher, an example, a role model for your students. I just wish more people could follow your wisdom and not see martial arts only as a way to intimidate and hurt others. I applaud your restraint- it is obvious that you could really hurt that old man.
The man Randy Tutelage. Has had Parkinson’s for a decade before this.
Look up the actual challenge match where Randy beats the shit out of him in front of class.
Ruben the 22 year old black belch
Who’s never done anything in “ his” sport but catch a beating in front beating in front of class against the guy he “ exposed”
been doing martial arts for over 10years, seeing black belts, sensei's is always get defensive when fakes come in so it is reasonable for ruben to get angry. Taking is personally is totally understandable
this is awesome, nice to know what kind of person Alvarez is, great vid man.
thanks for the interview, he seems like a really cool dude. would love a chance to train with him.
I'm on the real black belts side 100%! Your an awesome person God bless!!
Alvarez handled the situation in proper accordance to the history of our past Master's.
Do you even English?
+CyanideRevelations
Not much . . . Do you?
I'd venture to say by your posturing, I'm considerably older than you. I surmise this not in umbrage to your comment but in recognition of the evolution of etiquette associated with the art. Back in my day, we were held to a different standard of respect rearly seen anymore in Martial Arts. The art is never about the student. It's always about the Master. A student never chose his Master, the Master always chose the student. A different time, and different thinking. In closing, I will say, out of respect for my Master, if it were me, he would have given the poser the "five lessons of instant respect". I'm just sayin' . . .
+CyanideRevelations
Not much . . . Do you?
I'd venture to say by your posturing, I'm considerably older than you. I surmise this not in umbrage to your comment but in recognition of the evolution of etiquette associated with the art. Back in my day, we were held to a different standard of respect rearly seen anymore in Martial Arts. The art is never about the student. It's always about the Master. A student never chose his Master, the Master always chose the student. A different time, and different thinking. In closing, I will say, out of respect for my Master, if it were me, he would have given the poser the "five lessons of instant respect". I'm just sayin' . . .
Thomas Holmes
Cool story bro, so how long did you live in feudal Japan for?
+CyanideRevelations
Nope . . . I wasn't in Japan. I've been in Hong Kong since 1986. Married local girl back then.
Great interview.
Awesome video, thanks for posting! Nice colombia shirt too
:)
Ruben you are an honourable man, respect to you 👊🏼✊🏼
Ruben I totally support you
Just became a huge fan of Ruben. Awesome to have good people in the community. Ossssssssss
I respect the fact that you made this public so that no one else may be fooled in the future as a possible student of his. I respect what you went through to get your black belt in BJJ. I am currently studying BJJ at 44 and am a white belt. I have 30 years experience in Kenpo Karate and achieved my black belt in 1993. The one assumption that I do not appreciate was that karate black belts didn't work as hard as BJJ black belts. I'm not getting into which arts are better bc I appreciate all martial arts. I worked very hard, sparred thousands of rounds, had my ribs busted, bled and sweat a lot on the journey to achieve my belt. Respect to BJJ and ALL black belts who truly earned them.
A lot of respect for you Ruben. I almost died to get my BlackBelt in Kyokushinkai and I started with 6.
Feeling bad that you had to live this situation.
haha and he goes back in with a 3rd degree black belt..
flarewave tells him to get out of HIS studio hahahaha
Thanks for posting this interview. I saw Ruben taking some undeserved flak for how this went down. Kudos to Ruben for extending that guy an opportunity to come back and train as a white belt.
Thank you Ruben, we need more of this. If someone is going to fake his or her belt, at least know how to play the roll or just know something. I studied Aikido under the great Ro kyo Dan, 6th degree black belt Sensei, Robert Danza, at the New Jersey School of Unarmed Self Defense back in the 80's and 90's and was proud of my painstaking accomplishments. I no longer train at the do-go, but I keep it up and enjoy it for myself. Funny how we can spot a fake a mile away especially the ones who say they rarely used martial arts but seem to have endless stories of when they had to. I'm a much older guy but you deserve all my respect sir.
This guy is so good at story telling
i have a black belt...from Kohls
Great interview, it's nice to hear the story behind the video, loving the Colombian ⚽️ jersey oss!
This guy on the right (in the video) is SO cool.
Such a respectful and accountable person.
I have mad respect for this young man.
Good video and interview.
RESPECT.
Ruben has the mentality I love to see in the sport I care for so much! OOOOOOOS!!
You can say what you want or talk all day long about what you are, but that mat is truth, if you dont know, you will be exposed. Thats why I love Martial Arts, Nothing else exposes truth faster. Great job.
aww man i wanted to watch the original vid. still the best vid for exposing a fake blackbelt on youtube. wish there were more like that one
Drinking Game for every time Ruben says "ya know"
Did it...pretty shit faced now...thansks!!
JustSomeGuy You had to point that out ....
I think this is a great video and I really wish that it was shared more because I do not appreciate the way that people are villainizing Alvarez because I think that he handle the situation perfectly that lying fake belt guy was way too disrespectful on many levels he didn't know the order of belts and he just seem like an attention seeking / wannabe .Its is so disrespectful to all of them men and women who put the time and money.+ sacrifices into training
Great message!
and massive props to him for telling him to come back whenever he is ready as a white belt. His reaction was reasonable and his offer to still train him shows a hint at how he likely an amazing teacher.
As a martial arts instructor I can empathize with Mr. Alvarez. I trained for many years (and took many a beating ) before I was awarded my Black Belt and I respect any student from any system that does this. I don't do BJJ but I respect it for the brilliant martial art that it is! I have been a Black Belt for most of my life (yes, I'm an old git) but if I were to apply to be Mr. Alvarez's student, I would happily, and respectfully, wear a white belt.
This guy stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
Great interview
I think this was a very good video. Clear and very detailed. I find it interesting too that there is an operating assumption that students are honest in their description of prior experience. Totally understandable: why would people lie? But this was a nice description of good will and trying to err on the side of being reasonable. Good job.
Thank you Mr. Segura.
There's a guy in my algebra class who I've known since middle school, though we're not best friends. He keeps telling me he's a better martial artist than me and better guitarist, better than me at everything and even claims he has a black belt in Karate. When he tells me all of those, I don't even believe him. To me, it doesn't sound genuine. It sounds as if he's joking around like he often does or simply wants attention. He has so much shit to say, yet he doesn't say it genuinely in my opinion and doesn't show any proof of any of those. I showed him what I have accomplished, which was a grand champion trophy for taekwondo forms I won at a tournament one time and when I ask him to show me something, he doesn't show anything. In my head, I'm thinking he feels the pressure. He's afraid to face reality in my eyes. With all of this being said, don't be around those frauds and obnoxious people. Don't pretend to be something you're not. It drives me nuts when you say so much and don't say it with legitimacy, even if you want to take it as a joke. I personally don't find it a joke.
Ruben seems like a great guy. His students are lucky to have such a passionate instructor.
Awesome work Danny!
Respect!
I've done kickboxing most of my life, but I've never seen so much passion and brotherhood in any other martial arts like BJJ. I want to practice, but most classes are really expensive.
Honestly man, it's worth it. Solid Snake would Jiu Jitsu!
It's worth it I pay 70 a month with 6 days a week to train
Ruben you are an inspirational person, thanks for doing what you do.
This is one of the best videos on UA-cam. Girls must go crazy for this guy. Personality of a born champion. As a on-and-off martial artist I wish the community had more guys like this.
Ruben Alvarez you are a champion mate, well done anyone that thinks your a bully etc is a moron, you did the right thing bro! this guy deserved far far worse in my opinion!
More than anything else, the man put himself at risk of very serious injury by doing what he did. Alvarez was completely in his rights to have ejected him like he did. It was for his own good
+Benjamin Kelly sure dweeb
MrRaretunes Whoa, what a remarkable statement of intelligence that was! I'll be reeling for weeks with that one... ;)
Benjamin Kelly just matching intelligence levels with your pathetic statement.
this guy seems so wholesome
Wow, I'm on Ruben side due to the fact of how much respect and dedication he has for our art. Great job my friend!👍
I don't blame Ruben for getting as mad as he did. It's bad enough he was claiming a status he never earned but that he actually sold people on the lie. No one likes being played a fool so with that in mind I think Ruben demonstrated enough restraint and didn't "teach" him some of the more advanced techniques. People are saying he shouldn't have embarrassed him by calling him out so publicly, but I think Ruben and some of the other guys who fell for the story initially felt even more embarrassed and betrayed.
The guy compared this to military service.
Keep in mind he was. 21 year old black belt.
Never been in an actual fight. Is 5’4
Drinks a bottle of water with 2 hands.
He’s a complete Nancy.
His bjj sucks. Unless you’re wearing a ghost suit so you can grab
It’s jiu jitsu. A man with no limbs can succeed in that sport.
Or an 80 year old.
It’s false confidence and Ruben is a complete pussy. “ stop hitting me”
VAMOS COLOMBIA!!!
It's so sweet that he's apologizing for swearing when that guy deserves more than just being sworn at that you can tell that this Masters really a genuine dude in my opinion
Wow ruben.people are so lucky to have a instructor like you.the fact that you welcomed him back shows you Have integrity. I trained in wing tsun for 12 years.i know what it takes to achieve a black belt.... keep doing what you 🙏
Yea, this dude is cool. He's taken an oath, which he takes seriously. It's an ethical concern.
Hello, please Subtitle in Spansh, Thanks, Very Good Work...
Colombia, Welcome...
Ruben seems like a good dude. Wish I could learn from someone with these values. Hard work pays off.
To Professor Alvarez, you have nothing to apologize for. The way you reacted toward that poser in the video you filmed was justifiable -- absolutely justified. Much respect for taking your stand for BJJ.
Nice vid, I'm not a BJJ guy, I'm a Muay Thai guy, but I really respect the art, and I'd hate to see BJJ watered down like Taekwondo or Karate.
I don't know about Karate, but this is a sad truth. I started doing Taekwondo about 10 years ago. It was ITF (the traditional branch) and man, it was *so awesome*. You learned the techniques step-by-step and repeated them to exhaustion until you mastered them before progressing to the next level. The conditioning was brutal. It was truly preparing you to become a Taekwondo fighter, not score points. That also meant that you had to shed blood to get a half-belt and after it took me 4 years to reach green - and that because I was working hard.
I see the Olympic version, WTF, and I want to cry. It's rare to stumble upon a good ITF school. I'm not bragging, but I've sparred with WTF Black Belts and they are my level at best. Watering such an art down is fucking sad.
I also recently picked up Muay Thai along with BJJ. I think this is the *best* striking art you can learn to be efficient.
Benedict Feser I agree 100%
Dimitris Kokkaliaroglou
Don't forget boxing. Although Muay Thai will teach you decent punching skills, boxing really is the best for punching. I think if you train in that, you will have a near impenetrable stand up game. When I have mastered Muay Thai, I'm gonna learn Boxing to perfect my punching.
That's a very sound decision. While I wouldn't trust my life in boxing solely, since it's pretty much the simplest martial art/fight sport ever, just focusing on improving those 3-4 different punches makes for a hell of a game.
The only reason I'm not getting totally dominated by the older guys in Muay Thai is because I have decent boxing game.
Dimitris Kokkaliaroglou
Yea, the toughness and the well roundedness of Muay Thai combined with the footwork and the vast array of techniques you use to avoid punches of Boxing provides the ultimate stand up striking game.
So if I want a free jiujitsu lesson, I just need to touch you? Sweet. Cause I have crap all any money at the moment...
After hearing this story I have to say that Prof. Alvarez has some serious class. I can't believe he showed so much restraint. Respect!
What an cool guy! And good job on the video!
greets from Finland. Keep calm and keep rolling ;)
So much respect to Ruben. He had a point, he could've done it old school and taken him down. Takes a great person to do otherwise.