kai green back double is ablsolutely insane !!! the mass is crazy!look at his legs from behind no one in the top 5 current era comes close. not even derrick lunsdord could beat kai in that pose
Derek would absolutely beat him. Better structure, far more conditioned lower body, better traps and lats, and simply, his back and lower body are superior
Phil literally had one callout and was far ahead of Dennis from behind. Dennis could have won the MM, FL, FDB (possibly), and maybe the side chest, however I think that Phil would’ve convincingly won the back poses against him, and decimated him in the side chest and tricep fullness and detail.
@@JakeUltimateFitness Phil had one callout not because he was otherworldly, but because Kai was WAY WAY OFF.And Wolf had too many gaps. Jay cutler said several times the best Phil was 2011. He was here in 2013 and wasnt as impressed as 2011. Phils RLS is very narrow, so no way in hell will he ever win that pose " convincigly" over a much wider man like Wolf.In fact Phils RLS and ST are pretty overrated.His FDB is also overrated,and it was way better in 2011.
@@ytsux9259 complete but way smaller than the other 2 men, and with inferior structure You can be complete all you want, in poses like 2 lat spreads youre getting SMOKED complete development is important but structure is also vital .Also conditioning. and what many never mention, BALANCE. Phil is way too arm/delt dominant earlier on in his career.Same is applicable in 2013
Sure Dennis and Kai were off, which is why Phil dominated that competition. Like you said, both of the other top 3 competitors were way off, which led to Phil capitalizing off of their flaws. While he clearly has the worst structure in the RL, his lower body is by far the best and his back is more “complete,” or, rather more developed than Dennis, and captures more detail than Kai. Also, while he may be overrated in the side tricep, there is no doubt that he wins the pose in this comparison
Phil Heath is the most hated body builder ever.. But nowadays, seeing Brandon, Hadi, Derek and all, people have started realizing what Phil really was.. Ramy and Shawn were ok though.. But Kai Greene would have beat every single todays best body buliders.. Even Shawn and Ramy.. That's how good Kai was and do I need to speak anymore about Phil? Phil may not be as good as Ronnie, but Ronnie himself admitted, that Phil had the capability to beat any bbs even in 90s.. and him Jay and kai would be the only ones sijce 2000, who would do good in 90s..
I wanna know who taught Kai to stick his butt out and arch his back like crazy during the side chest 😅. It made his gut stick way out there. Horrible execution of the pose!
Phil before the gut was nearly untouchable
Dennis had 1 calf. I've never seen that before. 🙀
Also factor in that Phil stepped in front of the line creating an illusion of size.
3:03 Kai with the bubble gut bonanza
Terrible, litellary terrible. Imo if you can see the gut like that it totally throws off the whole physique
If only dennis wolf's lats insert a lil bit lower.
kai green back double is ablsolutely insane !!! the mass is crazy!look at his legs from behind no one in the top 5 current era comes close. not even derrick lunsdord could beat kai in that pose
Derek would absolutely beat him. Better structure, far more conditioned lower body, better traps and lats, and simply, his back and lower body are superior
Phil heath the goat of hamstrings 💀💪
Good comparison
Most dominant ever? Dennis Wolf could’ve arguably won.
Phil literally had one callout and was far ahead of Dennis from behind. Dennis could have won the MM, FL, FDB (possibly), and maybe the side chest, however I think that Phil would’ve convincingly won the back poses against him, and decimated him in the side chest and tricep fullness and detail.
Nah, Phil won quite easily. While Dennis had some good parts, he wasn't complete.
@@JakeUltimateFitness Phil had one callout not because he was otherworldly, but because Kai was WAY WAY OFF.And Wolf had too many gaps.
Jay cutler said several times the best Phil was 2011. He was here in 2013 and wasnt as impressed as 2011.
Phils RLS is very narrow, so no way in hell will he ever win that pose " convincigly" over a much wider man like Wolf.In fact Phils RLS and ST are pretty overrated.His FDB is also overrated,and it was way better in 2011.
@@ytsux9259 complete but way smaller than the other 2 men, and with inferior structure
You can be complete all you want, in poses like 2 lat spreads youre getting SMOKED
complete development is important but structure is also vital .Also conditioning.
and what many never mention, BALANCE.
Phil is way too arm/delt dominant earlier on in his career.Same is applicable in 2013
Sure Dennis and Kai were off, which is why Phil dominated that competition. Like you said, both of the other top 3 competitors were way off, which led to Phil capitalizing off of their flaws. While he clearly has the worst structure in the RL, his lower body is by far the best and his back is more “complete,” or, rather more developed than Dennis, and captures more detail than Kai. Also, while he may be overrated in the side tricep, there is no doubt that he wins the pose in this comparison
Funny, I think Dennis steamrolls in the Abs & Thighs. Otherwise, I agree with everything
Phil Heath is the most hated body builder ever.. But nowadays, seeing Brandon, Hadi, Derek and all, people have started realizing what Phil really was.. Ramy and Shawn were ok though.. But Kai Greene would have beat every single todays best body buliders.. Even Shawn and Ramy.. That's how good Kai was and do I need to speak anymore about Phil? Phil may not be as good as Ronnie, but Ronnie himself admitted, that Phil had the capability to beat any bbs even in 90s.. and him Jay and kai would be the only ones sijce 2000, who would do good in 90s..
Phil was not the most hated. What are you talking about? 🤔
I feel like the kinda blurry video footage didn't show that well how much better phils conditioning was, that's why he doesn't look as dominant here
I wanna know who taught Kai to stick his butt out and arch his back like crazy during the side chest 😅. It made his gut stick way out there. Horrible execution of the pose!