@@ashiqabbs nah Mark Max Muscle sucks. He talks too much, tries to be witty/funny but comes off corny and annoying.. SupersetMan and JakeUtimateFitness are good. Props to the two of them
My eyes are drawn to Andrew...If Andrew learns how to sit down on the side shots he would be incredible...Andrew is huge and wide...The midgets Hadi and Derek are standing in the front row as usual.
Honestly, Samson's lats really hols him back. Ive not seen anyone really say this yet, but I wonder if samsons illusion of size will remain as good as its been if he is truly shredded. Maybe him being a little less conditioned helps him look so big Samson can still probably pull it off with real conditioning but man id love to see him atleast match the lats of the others. His back thickness is pretty good, its just the lower back attachment of his back and the lats I also think that maybe with better execution Andrew might sneak higher in the side poses, im not convinced he looks this bad with his new mass, even though long term he needs more I also legit think hadi has the best physique in the world rn this comparison makes me see how stunning he is Other than that, it would be a dream to see a shreeded from front and back derek and a smaller midsection nick We shall see
10:07 Andrew should take some pointers from Hadi on how to hit the side tri. He needs to open his right leg up very slightly more towards the front, lock that arm out and bring it further behind his back which would in turn make the chest/midsection the focal point. Hadi is a master at doing that.
I've never understood why Samson is so popular. I don't think he's that aesthetic, and I think he has a lot of weaknesses; I get it though he has some strengths. I strongly prefer Andrew to Samson.
@tomjjackson21 I 100% agree with you! Samson is currently the most overrated bodybuilder in the world! He gets undeserved hype due to being sponsored by Hosstile and frequently appearing on Fouad's channel. My prediction is he's gonna place 5th or lower this Olympia due to being coached by his wife and having a lot of yesmen in his corner.
I understand peolle.dont like Samson but if we're being unbiased you gotta be crazy to think hes not easily a top 5 guy in the world. I donthink you guys ever been to a show of his in person....these pics dont show what real life does. Bodybyikding is dubjective though so maybe you guys judt dont like his size or whatever. Idk. I dont judge off personal only what I see when theyre on stage. You guys need to go to an actual show 😂
My guess if everyone shows up about as well as they are in the footage and Andrew gets his posing down it'll probably be 1. Hadi (because cmon look at him) 2. Andrew 3. Derek 4. Nick (because that mid section) 5. Samson (he just doesn't look as big)
Andrew Jacked looks amazing and his abs & thighs - goat. Greatest abs & thighs pose ever - but I just think Hadi & Derek are complete as hell - while Andrew just has some flaws that will be tough to overcome. His calves and forearms are awful and looking genetic - I doubt they will catch up at all. His limbs looks so long - while these other guys are just solid and symmetrical everywhere. He has improved so much though - and that abs & thighs. Nobody is touching it ever
I think if you combine overall look in every pose, you can see that excepting hamsting and some posing flaws, Andrew has the best frame, the best freak factor and the best balance I`d say. He`s just so big and so detailed everywhere and he`s 3X more aesthetic and pleasant to the eye than anyone including Samson. But once again, he has details! Id say he is way more detailed than Derek everywhere except back and hamstrings. But dude its only two poses!
Andrew is a solid 4th at best. He doesn't have the mass to fill out that frame. He also sucks at posing. He could have a string of Olympia wins, but he's a couple years from that point. He also has no lower back.
He has filled out his frame enough now in a way that also maintains his flow, balance and narrow waist. What exactly does he need to do, weigh in at 350ibs?! Ridiculous.
And I’ve really come around to Hadi. Like big time. Was always a fan - but his 2024 Arnold - it’s the most complete I’ve seen anyone since early 10’s Phil. No real weaknesses no weak poses. Amazing build
His forearms aren't thick enough, and he could use bigger arms. Look at his biceps and triceps ratio to delts ratio in rear double biceps pose. Then, look at his forearms in the most muscular shots. Maybe a little more hamstring, but that's if I'm being super critical. I'm excited to see him at the O this year.
Derek only has a back and I would almost give the back double bicep to Nick because he is most completions to bottom. If Andrew tightens up his side poses it will be lights out! Also for the most muscular take a good look, from top to bottom and Andrew might be a bit lanky but he is definitely very muscular.
Yes but not from the side, you are objectively wrong if you think so. For the benefit of the doubt, elaborate on how Andrew wins over Hadi in the midsection, or anyone for that matter. He isn’t locked in and poses incorrect
It’s impossible to predict, but AJ even being the oldest looks the one with more improvements, and part of a very good team. On the other extreme Nick is the one with less potential of improvement, because of is structure. My palpite is 1 - HC, 2 - AJ, 3 - SD, 4 - DL, 5 - NW
Martin Fitzwater. I think he got a lot of hype because Nick wasn't at his best, but the dude is, I think, 27 or 28 years old. He could go really far in the sport.
Strongly dissagree with your side shot assertions. I think what is really telling is Nick is no where near impressive as he perceives himself to be. I despise how the middle eastern bodybuilding community has created this culture of unappreciating Derek's physique. He's phenomenal; as are all of these guys.
I love Derek but he really only has two impressive shots: the front double and rear double. He’s solid in the side poses and looks great in the rear double, but there’s no doubt that his condition and legs from the front need some work. I’m not biased towards any athlete when it comes to these videos, since I try my best to be objective to help others form their own opinions
Front double is impressive regardless of who he’s standing next to. That x-frame is unmatched in open at his level, and his silhouette is ridiculous. Of course his quads aren’t as swept and his Ames aren’t as detailed, however I never said he beats Hadi or Andrew in this pose. He has too many flaws, however alone he’s really aesthetic and pleasing to look at in that shot
unpopular opinion: andrew will not come in as good as his texas pro showing and will place out of top 5... again curry will be 5th as the other guys won't be conditioned enough to compete
Hadi is literally twice as thick in the lower back. Like I said, Nick is better in the arms but he isn’t even that thick in the legs. If anything, Hadi has larger glutes and outer quads, while Nick wins the hamstrings and leg condition
@@JakeUltimateFitness completely agreed. Olympia 2022 Nick's RDB had a chance but this NY Pro 2024 showing of Nick's RDB is the worst version he's ever presented. His back, especially lower back has regressed significantly. Nick has the lower lat insertions so he has more "surface area" to his lats compared to Hadi but he's so lacking in thickness it's like men vs boys. It's even more apparent in the rear lat spread. Granted Nick is killing Hadi in the hamstrings detail but Hadi is also beating Nick in the glutes striations albeit slightly, point being it's not a blowout in the lower body by any means. The huge difference in back development lets Hadi edge out Nick imo.
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@@ashiqabbs nah Mark Max Muscle sucks. He talks too much, tries to be witty/funny but comes off corny and annoying.. SupersetMan and JakeUtimateFitness are good. Props to the two of them
My eyes are drawn to Andrew...If Andrew learns how to sit down on the side shots he would be incredible...Andrew is huge and wide...The midgets Hadi and Derek are standing in the front row as usual.
Andrew for me too...Just can't take your eyes off him.
Andrew and Hadi unless Derrick has more then just the vacuum
How did Derek ever win Mr. Olympia? He has terrible condition from the front and weak quads and is smooth all over.
His conditioning from the rear, they say. It was super impressive. My opinion is that Hadi was robbed, but it doesn't change the history books.
Honestly, Samson's lats really hols him back.
Ive not seen anyone really say this yet, but I wonder if samsons illusion of size will remain as good as its been if he is truly shredded.
Maybe him being a little less conditioned helps him look so big
Samson can still probably pull it off with real conditioning but man id love to see him atleast match the lats of the others.
His back thickness is pretty good, its just the lower back attachment of his back and the lats
I also think that maybe with better execution Andrew might sneak higher in the side poses, im not convinced he looks this bad with his new mass, even though long term he needs more
I also legit think hadi has the best physique in the world rn this comparison makes me see how stunning he is
Other than that, it would be a dream to see a shreeded from front and back derek and a smaller midsection nick
We shall see
Samson's abs and thigh was horrendous
10:07 Andrew should take some pointers from Hadi on how to hit the side tri. He needs to open his right leg up very slightly more towards the front, lock that arm out and bring it further behind his back which would in turn make the chest/midsection the focal point. Hadi is a master at doing that.
There's no way Samson wins over Andrew, but we will see the actual results at Mr.O...
I've never understood why Samson is so popular. I don't think he's that aesthetic, and I think he has a lot of weaknesses; I get it though he has some strengths. I strongly prefer Andrew to Samson.
@tomjjackson21 I 100% agree with you! Samson is currently the most overrated bodybuilder in the world! He gets undeserved hype due to being sponsored by Hosstile and frequently appearing on Fouad's channel. My prediction is he's gonna place 5th or lower this Olympia due to being coached by his wife and having a lot of yesmen in his corner.
100% agree! And how the heck is he second in the side tricep again?
I understand peolle.dont like Samson but if we're being unbiased you gotta be crazy to think hes not easily a top 5 guy in the world. I donthink you guys ever been to a show of his in person....these pics dont show what real life does.
Bodybyikding is dubjective though so maybe you guys judt dont like his size or whatever. Idk. I dont judge off personal only what I see when theyre on stage. You guys need to go to an actual show 😂
Yess samson wil beat andrew
If they all nail it, my picks would be
1 Andrew
2 Samson
3 hadi
4 nick
5 Derek
My guess if everyone shows up about as well as they are in the footage and Andrew gets his posing down it'll probably be
1. Hadi (because cmon look at him)
2. Andrew
3. Derek
4. Nick (because that mid section)
5. Samson (he just doesn't look as big)
9:06 in my opinion side triceps is a pose of Nick
Yup 👍👍
100%! That's the only pose he wins, hands down. Nobody has a tricep like Nick, and his midsection looks best in that pose.
Andrew Jacked looks amazing and his abs & thighs - goat. Greatest abs & thighs pose ever - but I just think Hadi & Derek are complete as hell - while Andrew just has some flaws that will be tough to overcome. His calves and forearms are awful and looking genetic - I doubt they will catch up at all. His limbs looks so long - while these other guys are just solid and symmetrical everywhere. He has improved so much though - and that abs & thighs. Nobody is touching it ever
1. Andrew
2. Hadi
3. Samson
4. Derek
5. Nick
I think if you combine overall look in every pose, you can see that excepting hamsting and some posing flaws, Andrew has the best frame, the best freak factor and the best balance I`d say. He`s just so big and so detailed everywhere and he`s 3X more aesthetic and pleasant to the eye than anyone including Samson.
But once again, he has details! Id say he is way more detailed than Derek everywhere except back and hamstrings. But dude its only two poses!
I'd give Andrew second behind Hadi for now
Andrew is a solid 4th at best. He doesn't have the mass to fill out that frame. He also sucks at posing. He could have a string of Olympia wins, but he's a couple years from that point. He also has no lower back.
Yessssss!
He has filled out his frame enough now in a way that also maintains his flow, balance and narrow waist. What exactly does he need to do, weigh in at 350ibs?! Ridiculous.
Andrew is head and shoulders better- literally. The short guys look blocky and lack big calves surprisingly.
Hadi wins imo
And I’ve really come around to Hadi. Like big time. Was always a fan - but his 2024 Arnold - it’s the most complete I’ve seen anyone since early 10’s Phil. No real weaknesses no weak poses. Amazing build
His forearms aren't thick enough, and he could use bigger arms. Look at his biceps and triceps ratio to delts ratio in rear double biceps pose. Then, look at his forearms in the most muscular shots. Maybe a little more hamstring, but that's if I'm being super critical. I'm excited to see him at the O this year.
King hadi❤
Andrew Jack got me
Derek only has a back and I would almost give the back double bicep to Nick because he is most completions to bottom. If Andrew tightens up his side poses it will be lights out! Also for the most muscular take a good look, from top to bottom and Andrew might be a bit lanky but he is definitely very muscular.
I don't know how Derek won Mr Olympia..Hadi is smoking this dude.
@@rayanthony5647politics won
Hadi and Nick are the only ones looking actually strong. The rest seem wearing one of those muscle suites.
Overall Hadi wins the compression in my opinion
Yup.
Excelent video sir. You have a new sub becouse of it.
The collab of the month
Another fantastic video; thank you!!!
I’m not even sure why a debate is necessary, Andrew by a mile.
Great analisis 🎯
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Samson or Andrew.. depending on their conditioning😂
Great video
Wild that, besides Derek, the whole top 5 has completed this year. Things has been different
Wait in side tricep this was so off and wrong Andrew has the best midsection period!! lol 😂
Yes but not from the side, you are objectively wrong if you think so. For the benefit of the doubt, elaborate on how Andrew wins over Hadi in the midsection, or anyone for that matter. He isn’t locked in and poses incorrect
"Side" and "triceps" Just went over your head, huh???
It’s impossible to predict, but AJ even being the oldest looks the one with more improvements, and part of a very good team. On the other extreme Nick is the one with less potential of improvement, because of is structure. My palpite is 1 - HC, 2 - AJ, 3 - SD, 4 - DL, 5 - NW
Andrew Jack is the best in this lineup. Followed closely by Hadi.
I see the guy who placed 2nd to Nick in the NY pro also in the mix.
Martin Fitzwater. I think he got a lot of hype because Nick wasn't at his best, but the dude is, I think, 27 or 28 years old. He could go really far in the sport.
Nicks side chest is winning easily imo
Strongly dissagree with your side shot assertions.
I think what is really telling is Nick is no where near impressive as he perceives himself to be.
I despise how the middle eastern bodybuilding community has created this culture of unappreciating Derek's physique. He's phenomenal; as are all of these guys.
I love Derek but he really only has two impressive shots: the front double and rear double. He’s solid in the side poses and looks great in the rear double, but there’s no doubt that his condition and legs from the front need some work. I’m not biased towards any athlete when it comes to these videos, since I try my best to be objective to help others form their own opinions
@@JakeUltimateFitnessFront double???.. He had no quad sweep for front double. Smooth legs no definition. Hadi smokes him.
Front double is impressive regardless of who he’s standing next to. That x-frame is unmatched in open at his level, and his silhouette is ridiculous. Of course his quads aren’t as swept and his Ames aren’t as detailed, however I never said he beats Hadi or Andrew in this pose. He has too many flaws, however alone he’s really aesthetic and pleasing to look at in that shot
unpopular opinion: andrew will not come in as good as his texas pro showing and will place out of top 5... again
curry will be 5th as the other guys won't be conditioned enough to compete
Hmm interesting take, Curry and conditioning doesn't go hand in hand like let's say Nick or Hadi
@@basdemanazCurry's physique is basically declining as years pass by. Very low chance he can outperform his 2023 version this year.
@@giovanialdian6348 true. I still like his physique, because it flows really well etc and his last year's physique was still 4th.
I hope Andrew doesnt come in off but he usually does. I still think he’ll beat Brandon this year though if he’s off. He was top 5 last year btw.
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Derek very beatable ever.
Unconfortable in side chest...aka there is too much oil there and he cant even flex the poor real muscle somewhere left there properly.
Who? Andrew?
Derek 3st olmpiya 2024
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Are you blind to give hadi back double over nick.. made me quite
Hadi is twice as thick in the back. Nick has better condition in the lower body and larger arms. Close, but the back is what we are fixated on-no?
@@JakeUltimateFitness hadi isnt that thick but smooth and has no shape like triceps from behind looks weird and there is no comparison in lower body..
Hadi is literally twice as thick in the lower back. Like I said, Nick is better in the arms but he isn’t even that thick in the legs. If anything, Hadi has larger glutes and outer quads, while Nick wins the hamstrings and leg condition
Nick beats Hadi in the back double.
@@JakeUltimateFitness completely agreed. Olympia 2022 Nick's RDB had a chance but this NY Pro 2024 showing of Nick's RDB is the worst version he's ever presented. His back, especially lower back has regressed significantly. Nick has the lower lat insertions so he has more "surface area" to his lats compared to Hadi but he's so lacking in thickness it's like men vs boys. It's even more apparent in the rear lat spread. Granted Nick is killing Hadi in the hamstrings detail but Hadi is also beating Nick in the glutes striations albeit slightly, point being it's not a blowout in the lower body by any means. The huge difference in back development lets Hadi edge out Nick imo.